 Check it. Check it. Check it. It's a unique host is your boy. He's CEO and I'm here with The official miss Jamaica. I was waiting on something different We is with a MZ not a M. I s s y'all get it, right? Okay. When y'all look it up is a MZ. All right All right, we said MZ Yeah, so so hey man, we here today. You say I you say I put my radio voice back on then Hey man, we here today man, but my watch ideals. What's going on man? No King say man New York, of course. He saw the Harlem 75 I seen the video and when I seen the video, I was just checking out the back scene of some of I seen the rail And I said, oh, that's New York way Yeah, I saw a little different See man, I seen a dude riding a bike in New York the other day And I mean when I seen this cat man, he was he willing for a minute I'm like dang man. He was in New York riding. He's bike. There's a real sure. Yeah, the coach is different They that's day-to-day for them bikers for real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah See, I love taking the subways and and walking. He hates it. I love it. I don't like that shit either I only did that when I had to go see my PO because it's finding parking. It's hard in New York Yeah, you how do people have cars in New York? Yeah in the hood you good in the hood But outside the hood you got paid for a type of different parking and all like I guess because we always stay in Manhattan Manhattan it doesn't make sense you have a car because it take you forever to get a taxi from here to Might as well just walk. That's a fact. Yeah, I'm taxi don't stop for us. Yeah, man So what I wasn't coming up in New York. Let's let's go down. Let's let's go. Let's go back on one shot, man You know how we do where exactly did you grow up? I grew up on the east side of Harlem But I got a big-ass family So I grew up on the east side of Harlem Malvern in the Bronx Brooklyn because you know my family big I'm Italian you're making Puerto Rican So I was found dating the east side of Harlem. So they come check me I was I was raised a little different. So I was raised into the streets into the hustle. So Like my perception and my view of the streets was different from the kids I grew up with so like I Learned how to hustle for my parents and shit. So I was raised up with the Mom and dad in the household with you. Yeah, I had my grandmother in the household I had my mom's and pops in the streets in the streets Okay, so that's how they you said that's how they taught you how to do you have siblings with you at the time I'm know this out of six out of six and they all weren't there Now just me and my sister at that point in life. Did you sister learn the hustle too? Hell? Yeah She she learned when I learned so she was two years younger than me doing what I was doing Well, you know how some people be like well now you a girl you don't need to be doing what we doing now My mom's ran the situation. So it was never that with me Word up Man when I went up to you know, I went up to New York man. That's how I was hustling I was selling my clothes and I'm like man I'm for to go to New York every nigga go to New York when they selling clothes I went over that a Broadway 28th Street. I'm over there. Yeah, nigga. I'm over there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm for to come up Well, I need to get money. They gonna snatch that shit up. That's right. So any block? So I'm over there and I'm like man. I meet this guy. He say hey, man I've been on this block for 25 years The hell I cannot believe it do say he was proud that he been right there on this corner for 25 years And he ain't trying to move me real shit. That's how they get it for 25 years on the same she bugger that nigga say Yeah for 25 years and he ain't leaving. It's my this where I be man Everybody know you could ask such a such up the street. He taught just talking That was my motivation. I'm same niggas. I'm same niggas. I seen on the corners for 20 years I'm like nigga. I ain't gonna be on the same block for no 20 years later. Yeah, fuck out They do it. Don't yeah, they do it though. I go to the block right now You got old heads still in my block doing the same shit drinking honey cool it Talking war stories and all that Yeah, it's crazy love though. It's all love like, you know to each his own, but it's all love do you realize how different the culture in New York is from a lot of places Yeah, I see it is it real fast But certain individuals from different places catch up to the New York shit, too It's there is all about who you are. Did you look at everybody else has been weird? Since that's your culture compared to now I traveled a lot. So I understood it. You wanted to just you got Dabbed to it because the last time whenever we were down there. We were walking up Manhattan and This lady she walk in everybody walk fast, right? She walking walking. She tripped and fell So I went and helped her up and she does got up and just kept walking like yeah I hope nobody's seen that shit. I'm out of here. I'm like dang. Thank you or some, you know We trying to give the hospitality, but it's like you just not used to it. Yeah, they ruled in New York They got they got me but they rule a lot of things don't say thank you And they'll cuss you out in a heartbeat. Mm-hmm. They're real aggressive very Let me ask something. So getting into the music. How what made you how did you get into music? Well, I beat my case in trial 2011. I started the music and also my brand Ryder You know, I mean, I say right it's Ryder Nation now, but I started as Ryder Then they indicted that the whole block and all that like four different indictments when I came home I just revamped at the Ryder Nation in 2015 when I came home and Yeah, just just life mainly start rapping that that'd be my case and trust that fuck that shit I'm gonna go tell a story and they was like telling like niggas wasn't talking the shit I'm talking especially like what I come from everybody was on some more other shit But like the content and the shit that I've been saying like the substance Like we really started that shit. That's all there's some all other shit So you beat the case and now you got me thinking what case Yeah, I could talk about it because it was exonerated and shit, but on basically it was on On the grounds of Dominion control of a vehicle, but I was on my block and I had a car and shit I had two guns in it some coke or some crack and shit, but like when I took the case of trial 187 days later because my own lawyer didn't file for 30 30 motion and shit. I love details I'm gonna say For this case this case I beat in trial was 23 22 23 and was that the first time you've gotten in trouble at that time now I caught had a youthful fender in 2005 my first gun charge and shit, but it was a youthful fender and then Did four and a half years of that shit? Caught another case got five more years probation and the year later caught this case I'm talking about right now with the car had a white catty the village shit But it was two guns coke and crack in the car took at the trial for four days It was a Wednesday Thursday Friday in the Monday four cops testified against me in the DMV worker And shit. I was they they offered me three and a half before I took at the trial Well, I took at the trial if I would have blew it would have been 15 or more shit And then from that I said fuck that cuz that courtroom that Trial room feel like a wake I should only two rows plush carpets and all that shit So I ain't never I'm gonna never go see that motherfucker room again, and I just started rapping going hard I'll never sue the cops and none of that shit because I was still in the streets and all that shit So I just transitioned from the street. She just put into the music shit for real But when you think about it, I don't You go through these things and you I don't know if you like me back back when I got myself in the situation The thing that I look at is you caught me on this and you didn't get me right, but I did a lot of other stuff You could you got you got to take like I'm good with this I'm cool with this right here. You know I'm saying because you you've been given time at the time We we we we not out here. I mean, I'm this is when I was younger, you know, I just I never did I couldn't never see it getting out of the streets That's why I say like certain shit that we go through when you do some shit for cause and I'm a big believer in that shit Good energy bad energy like certain niggas in the streets for selfish reason nigga We certain niggas in the streets a few days families and shit So like that was my my whole view of it is like damn Like that's why I got this tattoo on my neck because I was selling Dom's a coke at the time And I pay my lawyer $25,000 and when I beat my case and trust that fucking I'm gonna get my neck tied and go off This music shit will but I feel like that was the price I had to pay besides the losses a nigga take and shit in the streets But I'm like damn slow punk ass 25,000 this price I got to pay instead doing this punk ass time it took me away from my family and all that shit So I look like nigga is one way or the other It's the price I paid and staying silent cuz suckin niggas take the easy way out But nigga that commas come right back around you dig and niggas get the short end of the stick So just staying solid just felt that's why I got the outcomes. I've got a lot of things and shit for me That's dope. Yeah, that's all right So but okay one thing I've always wanted to ask and I don't think I've ever asked this question before But which you being in the streets and all the content that you have now created to put into your music Do you think because you're no longer there in the streets anymore or doing any of that? Do you think you can ever run out of content? Oh, no Personal our personal, you know events because you're no longer there doing that stuff anymore But I did so much of this shit That's why it depends on your company you keep especially when I'm creating I like to be around certain individuals because we'd be chopping it up and then that shit We talked about just will be be reminding me of shit dick I get how like a lot of shit I do I just be rolling for real in life But I did a lot of shit So just how you put that shit together for real and like is even the beats like the certain beat just Wake up a whole nother demon sometimes like yeah, yeah, there's a lot of shit I used to think that we like damn I ain't doing this shit Bugging I can talk that shit niggas ain't do 10% of certain shit digs So it's like these niggas be talking some bullshit and glorifying some shit that niggas living day to day And like coming from that shit that you know Just drop a jewel or something did talk that shit that content, but don't mislead the people though So you a writer you like to write you don't punch it I love writing but coming to Atlanta and be around other artists and starting to punch him I'm like, oh shit bringing a microphone out the booth and sitting next to the When I say how like dope Damn, and it's like writing without writing. You know what I mean? No, no, that's dope. I like doing both though because like certain shit when I write So how did you feel when Jada kids came out the box when he And on camera on the on that on that versus I love I love music. I told niggas off the ground. I said two things you can't compare Because they both great in their lanes and they bring them to the wave, but You can't compare fly shit with street shit. So Jada kids do this man. That's that street shit Man this nigga do this. I already knew that I post my picture me and him up quick niggas look niggas That's why I was writing with already Jada for it. Yeah, I always have been a that's one of that's one of the ones that I yeah my favorites in New York You know what I mean when I think about the music. I'm like, that's my guy right there. Yeah, my favorite He was one of them, but the mix are pito. Oh, I seen that bro. I seen the man I seen that that man. You can't I told Toe shots and that nigga can't never stop rapping when you get that kind of Right hand a fellowship nigga. Yeah What what what if you do you gotta come hard? Yeah, real shit. That's the bro, man But but think about it when you get what you have nobody got people don't have that respect, bro So you gotta you can't and do you even know what I'm talking about? So, yeah, okay Yeah, that's what I was saying like you can't stop like that, man It's crazy a year and a half later I got indicted in the hush I came home and I was offered to open up for dmx and march 16 2016 and From there was murder. She wrote I was with door for like four years five years hell Yeah, he did the year for the aisle rush it and we did the 20th anniversary tour I opened up for that nigga like a hundred different cities a hundred different shows over a hundred shows And it was the the dope shit about it was like every show was I had to make niggas believe is because they Know who the fuck I was and I was the dope shit for but with that time on the video that I seen where he He was lifestyle. Yeah the right hand of fellowship is what I'm calling it But at any rate like you you the one like well, what was that energy like that night? And how long had you known him at the time should I know him for a little minute for like two two two and a half Years three years, but we was already on tour. We was home in new york city I do a show my own show I had niggas from my hood open up for me and shit It's the thing I started when I started rapping 2011 12 and she always do shows and shit But the specific show dog say he's gonna pull up to Whatever I was cool, and I was just dressing in shampoo and then they go popped up the last second and shit Vibed up, but he was always like that and shit and I did that show He just you know say his opinion on it dope and that shit was different different energy Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. It hit different when he never seen me perform because on tour like, you know He got stage already. Yeah, he's actually seen me do my thing. That was different. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. I get it um So I know that that was a tough loss when he passed away. Where were you at and what were you doing? I was in Atlanta. We just We actually just had him in Atlanta like a week and a half ago and my cousin many club 1145 and shit He pulled up and just was vibing for real and he's just working on his album We just went to the studio with benny the butcher. He just put that verse on for benny the butcher and um He said we was cool and you know, we're just talking our shit for real You know the next next moves and all like because you know, I got a record with dmx I never dropped that I'm about to drop soon as shit, but wow We was playing for the video and all that shit, but That should I ain't gonna front never told nobody this but went dog down my man Fuck music for real like wow back to the streets and all that because that was one rap nigger that was no rap nigger you mean he was really Like the way out that that the shit I come from principles and morals A lot of these rap niggas don't come from that especially niggas in his situation. So Being a brother with him and really talking under still like yeah, I could do this shit being solid staying true to myself You feel me talking that shit for real. So yeah, he was one of the niggas man. So Um, just new york the whole vibe of the music when you go back home You I mean you you frequent in both places. So Um, but what's going on in new york now? I mean my wife seemed to think that the uh pizza in chicago when we go to chicago is better than new york pizza I don't know I'm a deep dish girl. I um the new york people look here man. Look here, man. I'm with you Could you say That's his piece of real mental one 18 from first So All that it's all right, you know the piece of that thing that's a cake So what about so french montana, what what's your nationality because I keep thinking about princes i'm talking to you I'm a talent you're making a Puerto rican. Ah, I see man. You that's you Yeah, he gotta add that jamaican in there. Yeah, my mom's a jamaican and my mom's just Puerto rican and italian through So so that's the hustler part What the hell what's going on here? So say say chicken, man. I'll say That black part's up there. That's the original part, you know, it's all about it. Hello So so when you um The thing I want to ask you is like in new york when you up there and and you you feel the vibe But the music how do you feel like it is uh now comparable to the way it was five six years ago? Do you feel like it's moving because the one why y'all couldn't get number women off the blotting young m.a and uh Nick and menage to be let's be real and carney b That'd be that platform though, but you got a lot of underground dudes that's dope They go hard. How are you like I used to watch joey bad as he he acted now I used to I was I was gonna come up before I got on the run I mean that case I caught it on the run joey bad as french, you know I'm like shout out to both of them and shit because I used to perform at sobs all the time with joey Then french martin and shit all his young boys and all like like we be in the spine all I know is young boys And sure those are the homeboys for real, but I've seen a lot of niggas come up and there's different sounds and there's a lot of dope different sounds But a lot of dudes from where I come from don't get that recognition. That's really dope. You understand and I've got a lot of talent in new york for what's your hardest record, man My hardest of all my records, but I got some He's gonna say the last one like everybody else You could you could depend on what type of vibe you want, you understand? Okay, the vibe that you're in right now What's the hardest record? I'm a leverage so i'm a scout all my shit is hard But you could throw on whatever you could throw on lifestyle if you want to vibe out that that's shit Some new york vibe or if you want to turn up you go to walkie You want to get a cali vibe go to got that? All type of shit. Yeah, I've got a lot of shit with my young boys and shit they be on a drill Shit, so you know just be adapting, but you're in lifestyles. You all up and you ain't what the hell you that ain't new york, is it? No, I'm in cali in new york. Cali in new york. I know you did both things. Yeah. Oh, you hell on wheels What's the most creative video you've ever done like they didn't do that, you know They ain't going they don't even one spot. They do that video. They used to do that I always liked that welcome to Atlanta, right? Where was it welcome to Atlanta and then you have snooping Cali you have somebody in new york That'll be dope to redo that. You know this time man. That's all Like I should get out there That's yeah, you link with people that could do it too because y'all are linked. Yeah Out of all the videos that you ever done, what's the most creative you think? I got some shit that you can see where I come from for real like show my grandma this shit Oh, yeah, what's up? Is it is it remake the mary j. Blige beat is it's called ready or not Which beat that oh, they're ready one shot. There's ready or not. Yeah ready or not. Do you make your own beats? No Oh, he got you don't produce anything. Is there something you don't want to I would love to learn that But you know, you gotta put a hundred in your shit to focus But I would love to make my own beats and learn how to record myself Because a lot of niggas I'll be around as though they do that shit Yeah, when I see all when we've been interviewing so many artists recently And um, I consider now if you're being a brand, I don't call you really an artist I call you a brand if you want to be a brand you got to know the business side You got to know how to do the producing you may not even want to do it But you got to know how to do it That's a fact You had to know how to do the engineer and everything like that So when you do hire somebody to come in if they messing up or they're doing something that you don't like them to do You know direct on this shit. I think that's the new york thing I love creating like I'm hands on with my visuals and shit But like learning how to record all I be doing so much in new york be so busy busy But I see a lot of out-of-town artists that like come from states like this at states in the countryside They'd be in the crib Learning that shit. You understand new york We just wake up and want to go outside and just find shit to do I'll hear you be in the middle of nowhere. You feel me is like you got to learn that shit Yeah, I got a homie out there named uh, shout out june bug man over there clout man Clothes store man in rhoda island. I believe he He had me he helped me laugh and he talked about he was had it was a thing called high volume We do clothes. We sell clothes hvlm. I got some shit for you next time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we and and um, man Uh, good clothing brands out there man. I'm telling you man when I went out there I didn't finish the story earlier, but them niggas made me hustle hard as hell man No, because I was like man, I thought yeah, I got the stores So I'm them niggas ain't doing it. He didn't need no story. He was dressing niggas on the streets Why ever they didn't have to have I'm coming to pick this pack take this they treated like drugs And they go almost just the clothes the way they pushing it man. They don't have it and somebody else have it They go and say come on. We're going to go get it. Oh, yeah They go get you over there because you know what they gonna get a cut of that That's funny, man. That's dope though because of those numbers Yes, I was always about the numbers, man. The numbers got to be a the numbers you got to watch them numbers, man So what's the top three artists of all time did or live? Number one DMX. Yeah, by far I knew that Number two That should be hard like when I come up. I came up listening like bone thugs and harm My own That's our first one. We never had one and then then to pop. Yeah, that's it. That's why all the artists don't fuck with But top three. Yeah. Yeah DMX bone thugs on me and two pockets. Good. That's a good selection, man Real talk. That's right. I like it. I like it So if you go back and tell talk to your younger you man before all of all the all the crazy stuff You may I would say if it was me before the life But he's always he was always in the crazy Yeah, no, no, it was a time when he was clean now. That was just He never was clean ever since he was eating he liked that baby You seen the baby that got with the fake tattoos standing on the on on instagram I mean, I don't get a twist. I went to catholic school, but straight from I was going straight to the the trap like my grandfather had a piece of shop since the 70s in my hood He ran numbers in the back. He had a bar and a piece of shop My mom's had a arcade right around the corner from my grandpa's piece of shop since 89 You know me she was doing her thing out that for real or some other shit She had the yola in the bud the chocolate back in the day But I was always involved in some shit, but thinking it was right though It's all that over. I can't even go back. I can't even go back on You're crazy. Yeah, it's all the way back. We were born in it. It was for real though on some other shit. Yeah, so You got kids. Yeah, I got three kids two boys and a girl. So how are you? That's what I'm trying to find out right there You just cut me off because you're gonna take my questions. You know what I'm gonna ask and she just takes it go What are you doing to prevent them from going down the same path that you went down? But I don't really bring my children around that shit Like I don't even bring my check I bring it to the neighborhood like when we throw parties and shit But having my children in the hood just cooling in a park hell. No, where do they live? They live it to two live in Harlem and one live in um in florida. Okay, because I had friends who um migrated to new york And when their kids became teenagers like uh, um, they took them out of new york because there was too much influence in a negative way Once you're in new york period But you gotta just keep it 100 with your children and have these type of conversations and show them the reality of it That's all and just have understand with them so they can understand that you ain't old and washed up that you can relate to them Still understand that so I speak to my younger brothers like that because I don't want to see like a father figure like still your brother She's got to be tapped in with them and just feel as one with them Not like like like a parent like you're trying to scold them and all like as we all fuck up but Learn from other motherfuckers mistakes, so you won't fuck up too much. Yes, it is But uh, when you look at uh, I just with golf just pat, you know getting getting killed You see the mode threes. You see the uh, what was the guy named in new york that not pop smoke It was one before him that was hanging with french Montana. What was his name change drugs? Yeah When you see all of these different artists And and it seemed like it seemed like it's it's a cloud You know what I mean that hovers over our our rappers When you see the way that they're being the destruction is wiping through them What what are you thinking and how do you move to make sure that you don't become a victim of Circumstances, I just stay militant and just I just be cautious in how I move and I really moved out of new york to Leave by example and show dudes because like, you know, I go to new york You're always going to be influenced from where you come from period You're staying just because you're genuine heart But you understand the mature like that ain't it like you say a little little earlier You be in the hood or where you from and who you feel that ego and shit But when you go to the real world that shit is gone because really even none of that shit matters in the real world That's real shit It's cool to get that principles and morals from that cloth and all that but the streets is over with Yeah, some whole other shit So these guys just learn the business of it like you said earlier And just influence the youth with that shit because they the future and just make sure they're doing shit, right? Because you know, we had to learn to shit ourselves and shit for real and motherfuckers take that person and never want to teach them Next motherfucker, but like like I said, just do shit, right? Just learn this shit And keep shit on the swivel like Never get too comfortable That's all never you in a position of power or certain position or anything You ain't supposed to be doing certain shit or moving to certain type of way. I agree. I agree 100 And that's forever because this shit don't stop Yeah, you said you leave the streets alone that shit forever whether you left it or not You know this shit come with you know it come with it. You can't really get around it either sound up for this Shit, but you know, like I said it just and and I know I know and I didn't name I didn't name some of the other cats. It's it's little cats everywhere Just dying and in the rap game and a lot of them young too, bro We even had one that came on our show that got killed by the guy that was with him Just within the last three months like it like after he left the show the guy that was with him ended up killing it That's how that should go, bro And I'm like what the heck so as you see the young rappers and like I say the ones that are coming up We end up going to that field. It's like damn, you know, like why is this cloud hovering over these artists like that? You know what I mean It's just crazy, bro The music be the influence to man and social media none of these cats be else. They think that shit is cool There's all type of reasons man, but just stay true to yourself man. Just stay keep some sucker free niggas around you, bro Yeah, yeah, yeah real shit. I like that. I have one last question. How important is it to have to have like, um mental click to clear your mental space every now and again, especially in the music industry because So many people whether it goes through depression because maybe they'll come out with a hit right now And you know when you come out with a hit you got to try to back it up and come out with another hit And that can be a lot of pressure and then all of a sudden, you know people that you know messing with you No more there on somebody else and that's a lot of lot to deal with You know what I mean or Even a person who's never had a hit but been in the business so so many years and be like man, you know what I mean See that's one thing I learned about my from my pops, you know Like he smokes the chalice that is a Jamaican ball And like they don't smoke just a smoke like he always prayed before he's smoking I used to laugh when I was a little nigger, but then I learned that he told me some shit But smoking and meditation like that's that works for me like I meditate at the end of every day Like I think of how I gave him to go five. They find a body link or type of at least you get deep but Meditation and in the peace of mind is key and like if you understand sometimes to take a vacation But you need that shit. If not, you lose your fucking mind out here I agree a hundred a million percent. You gotta have you gotta have that down time you talking about I mean even the police have to have it. I talked to my partner here detective and out in the country and it's like Hey, you know, you you'd be alright, you know, they seeing something every day That's why they be shooting niggas on accident or killing niggas and they pose a bit of traffic stop You can't keep seeing this negative stuff every day and day and then think you can just deal with regular people That's a no brainer. You know damn well Yeah, because we Because we tired of seeing it on the news every day imagine they're seeing it in person in real time watch that shit I don't watch the news. I don't either. I can't do it man. We had to let that go I told I can't do it no more too much negativity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah But man, hey man, one thing about it, man, we gotta say it man. We love you, bro Yeah How can people get a hold of you? Yeah one shot deals D a lz on any social media platform youtube instagram Everything one shot deals one shot deals man. Appreciate you coming on the show man Like I said, and you know, we in the Dallas area. So if it's any ever anything You ever sell up on my show, you're gonna see me soon. I'll have a care package for y'all Say man, you pull up man. It's going down real talk man For show man for sure man. Thank you so much man. Hey man, one shot deals in the building man Hey, man, it's been another great segment of boss talk one-on-one in real