 yeah we on boss talk one on one yeah we gonna talk we gonna have fun we'll be on fire we'll be live it's a unique house check it check it is a unique house this is your boy he's CEO number with the lovely amazing official mr. maker what's going on nothing nothing I'm a day old gone I want y'all to stop what y'all doing right now and go ahead and like subscribe follow us on all social media platforms I mean your take talk Instagram Facebook Snapchat you name it we're on it but definitely check out our patreon channel because that's where you're gonna find our full length interviews and of course YouTube membership but y'all know this guy like to go ahead and you know chop up the interview chop it all up play with you people don't have that attention so if y'all want to see that full-length interview before all them chopping up he gonna do y'all got to go and subscribe to our membership package all right man hey man listen man we down here KOD man Atlanta man you know we've been pulling up we'll pull up man you know I'm saying we down here man we had to come down here and talk to this guy right here man Jamal Wooder is in the building man they got a movie coming out it's already out I trust nobody to but this dude got a lot of history right here man I got a lot to talk about with this guy right here man I appreciate you coming on the show man so man we're gonna go through it like we do it right now cuz I don't know if you've ever seen our show before but I like to as females we love to know your history you like to know the person not always about what you do but where you came up because I feel that your story can heal so many people and people can hear that somebody could be out here going through something you went through 20 years I don't know how old you are but you know 15 years ago and be like man he overcame it I can do it too who somebody who thought about committing suicide somebody who thought about killing somebody and going to prison for life you could change somebody because of your story and that's one thing I always tell people don't be ever scared to tell your story because you can save lives you might not know who know who you're changing their life but you will so um just a little bit about yourself born and raised you said Brooklyn New York yeah I'm from Brooklyn New York um with your mom and dad no my dad yep New York mm-hmm um they were in the same household no so you raised single mom no my pops is there in and out oh really okay um did growing up did you ever feel like you know a lot of people sit in that seat or always raised by single parents the pop was always there as you said in and out but wasn't there all the time and it's a blessing if there were even there because some people don't know their pop and so forth but um did you ever feel like growing up like he needed to be there you wish he was there in a household every day did you feel like you missed anything or he made up with that by always being there no I ain't miss none no he told me he told me you know the game I'm almost told me the game so you know and you have siblings yeah I got sisters and brothers are you the oldest middle middle middle okay so you're not a sport one no okay none of us are really you know they always say baby baby girl or boy because I'm the last child and they always talk about I'm sport but I don't feel like way I feel like I'm actually the most responsible one mm-hmm so that's why I had to check because you know that's what a lot of people say well we all work okay so what was it like or what is it like growing up in Brooklyn New York because when you think about Brooklyn we think or a New York period you think about fast-paced you think about the hustle you think about people always going to go get it is just a certain it's a different mentality that people have in New York compared to anywhere else yes boss life right you know I'm saying is you gotta take even you gonna be I mean you know we represent the strong we represent you know gotta go get it we you know ain't nothing weak about us it's two ways you're gonna go up or down and most of the time you're gonna go up if you believe in yourself and put God first you know I'm saying but we're grinding you know we're sitting at grinds we're sitting there we up all night 24 7 I don't care what time both days open 3 4 in the morning yeah I like that man you get anywhere you can eat anything anytime it's this you know that's crazy very rare that a store be closed at 3 o'clock 4 in the morning just very rare you'll find whatever you want to find anywhere from Flatbush the best out east New York the Brownsville the Queens the Jersey to Long Island Staten Island to the Bronx to it doesn't matter man everything's a go the first time you had to travel outside of New York I don't know how old you were but what blew your mind about other cities compared to how New York is first time I have to be palm trees in LA or palm trees in Miami mmm you love to see the palm trees no I never seen a palm tree before so that was that was that was the most significant thing right but when you saw it did you you loved it I was just man I went up there and I'm gonna be honest which I go to New York a lot I couldn't I'm a Texas dude so it's hard to get used to it but the last time I went when I went up to do an interview with some guys man I didn't get iced in New Jersey I never been to New Jersey and stayed he told me to stay over there I'm never staying in Manhattan again I'm gonna be over there while I can move the elbows around yeah yeah yeah but but when I went to New Jersey I felt like I could move around and when I went up to drum for drum because my daughters in military I liked it up there too but New York is company Manhattan is just Manhattan now Brooklyn went over there to a biggest spot where he grew up I went over there cuz it was his what 26 year anniversary in that new yeah that's what I went seeing that and I hung out over there I felt the energy I was up there I was I was enjoying myself so I love New York I got partners in New York eating the food you better know it what the hell my god we debate on that pizza all the time because he loves New York pizza I love Chicago pizza Chicago got I love the deep I love the deep dish I gotta have my deep dish he loves his thin crust hardly don't meet on it he whatever right now yeah that ain't explained right it's thin crust and to be honest with you it flavor man it hit different it ain't that water got it tasting totally different and I'm off they both you know Chicago and you got the slices in New York you know it's too big you don't like cheese he don't like all that cheese and you get a lot of cheese no man but I you know you you I said Texas for a reason you did where I'm from with a little flip me or you wrap back in the day yeah you you put it down I listen that verse called willing call me and I was like man what you know about this dude he said yeah he said man yeah they know you I say man I'm checking in cuz I said I gotta go interview this guy I gotta know what's up with him he was like man he just do he's they were telling me a story about when y'all was I think it was when they had the wars and I think 50 was with vivid Vivica and y'all might have been at Sony Studios or somewhere recording but he just remember job that's hard man everybody that's hard man I like said you when I heard rapper I was like dude was he rapping when when Biggie was alive was you rapping so basically you were rapping you were from out there did people compare y'all back then before like that okay y'all started totally different yeah the flow is different yeah yeah you know that was that was the pioneer so we follow him you know I'm saying how big was that though when you with your career like it isn't you being the look and having a demeanor that you have when they see like after he passed and you did the movie role did you still pursue music or you didn't mess with music no I still I still I mean I still do music I still you know it's gonna be a love of my life yeah yeah you know I'll just chill I'll just be doing that and doing films and just you know I don't know how you find time for music because every time I look up there's a film coming out with you somewhere work just by working right being the best at what you do when you're crap and I think growing up in New York like you're saying had a lot to do with that for the main fact that that grind was built in you from birth coming up you know what I mean yeah so basically man like I said when I look at you man that movie that role was a big role was it being in the industry like you are and being in all these movies of that movie kind of hard to get past or was you able to move on into other roles easily but before you even get inside how did you get that role just being gravy just being gravy all the work I put into doing that and puff saying yo I want you to try for big and stuff like that okay okay so yeah so he's seen it he did he seen it yeah he's seen it I mean Mark Pitts and Wayne Barrow seen it you know Ms. Wallace she called the shots so you know she she's seen me she's seen it so that was good enough for me man long before that were you actually acting I never did no acting I was just rapping being great wow so did you have to do acting classes now I wasn't in that world I was just being gravy just being an artist at that time but you know to get that role like you know before they started shooting dishes and stuff audition and we did a biggie boot camp like we put our own little biggie boot camp together and we did things and I went to Juilliard and I studied and all that but me chasing it now that wasn't that wasn't in the forte wow after that being the gravy and then turning to this actor like it did it put a lot more exposure on you after that was a big role right amazing role so how long did you have to like going into it prepare like yourself mentally like I'm gonna I'm gonna kill this role or was you like um we did about six months before we started really yeah we work we work wow it's just like you can't just go in there and just think you just it's not a light switch you can't just turn it on and off like that yeah you know turn it all the way on wow I mean you got to really study and do the acting classes and voice dialect and movements and mannerism I watched a lot of tapes you did yeah I watched a lot of tapes on what hand you use which hand right left how you talk to look him I talked to faith how you talk to D Rock I talk to see they want many hats at certain times man you killed that road yeah thank you so much bro you killed that whole man I get a little I'm a wild boy so I excited cuz I coaching our people man like I say fuss to be able to tell our story now we never had this opportunity before right it's all love some actors can embody a character and some actors do the best they can yeah yeah you did an amazing job you did great what did um what was the surprising criminal we all love and no biggie but to do research on him you find out a lot more what did you find out that you didn't know about him before well I'm from Brooklyn so we already you knew everything right we already tapped in okay you from Brooklyn now if you from Queens or how you know you ain't tapped you probably be with nozzles or something like that but we was already tapped in so that was kind of like I guess you would call it a cheating stage you know you from there so you know exactly it's like going to Jamaica you know I'm saying you got to know where you at I took I took a um my first trip to Jamaica was me and Movado gully god so you got all the inside um yeah because I messed with it I messed with Movado I messed with bounty killer I messed with Buja beanie man I messed nine I don't know Buju okay but um beanie man mm-hmm bounty killer Movado I met Dottas and Tiberley I messed with foot the hype okay you know from Brooklyn so wow going out there and Kusaba piece and Kingston and all that was beautiful I stayed out there two three months and where did you stay I stayed in Tiberley with Dottas really did this yeah big big big big big move because of course like I tell people all the time when people ask me about Kingston because I'm from Kingston I say a certain area like Tiberley garden I ain't got none all those places don't go in those places unless you know somebody I was with the boss man yes and we had a wonderful time and um at that time it was it was it was a lot going on because you know like I messed with beanie man I messed with Movado I messed with bounty killer mm-hmm so it's the gully then it's the alliance then it's three different crews so it's a little hectic but yeah you had to learn though yeah I had a great time that's good it's good I know when we went over there you you luckily we knew somebody we were going everywhere you we were with was it Sean Paul's bodyguard and he took us to everything yeah yeah yeah and and the way he explained it to me I was like dude what am I doing just something he told me I won't say it right now but it's like why am I here we should be in here but you just gotta know where you had to be with the right people yeah real talk man like New York man like you guys man the culture that's the mecca for the rap man like I always give it up man I'm a big rock him man you know I'm saying listen man I ain't playing no games when I ain't no joke I used to let the mic smoke you know I'm saying yeah loved it big daddy came man like when he was dancing there and them boys was with him too I never know what happened to boys I like talk to him but but like they brought that culture in man like we didn't have nothing before that you know I'm overcast so I remember when it wasn't no rap you know what I'm saying so to see our people in that light when that happened from what whether whether was basketball in my favorite sport you know I'm saying Curtis Blower whoever it was good to have that and then fat boys you remember I was in Vegas I was living in Vegas when fat boys I first seen them I was like man this is dope because it was a chance for us Sugar Hill game but to see our people differently than we ever seen them before celebrate right yeah and that just happened I wasn't happy with that list but you know I'll be beefing with about this stuff because it's so it's hard for me being that I'm from the south when I look at and I hear all of you know from the five mics when my boy Benzino and all in was doing that to all it was an overlooked thing for me so I was like man they don't ever talk about and I'm gonna say they caught been saying they don't ever talk about none of the pioneers down there that had some CDs back then on cassettes where you didn't have to pass a song we had people like big mic with rapper live we had some with pimp scene and like on riding dirty we didn't never skip a song scarf and we didn't skip a song but you never hear them talk about that and that hurts me like come on man y'all know these dudes riding with everybody the same way so that that's the history of music I'm a music head man but even like our daughter she looked she looked up the other day who is the yeah who is the best rapper no the goat who's the greatest rapper live on google you know who they said on google Eminem yeah cuz we was I asked my daughter why you don't like Eminem cuz you're like I don't like him I like why you don't even know Eminem she was like because when you look at the world's greatest rapper you it in your googling it pops up I'm like you had to do that wrong I did it bam there I said what the hell but it's only opinion like we gotta we gotta we gotta lift our people man this thing we brought this thing in the game man I don't like my wife cuz she talk about uh uh cool her every time he jamaica so here we go who started a cool her because I google why I said who started rap because he always be messing with me with Jamaicans and we always be talking about that but I'm like but we started it cuz who hurt that he jamaican so you gotta give him his kudos you gotta know your history man because without D nice and all them boys coming through behind him and special ed and mc shane uh they blew it up that's how we do it man so just I want to just like I say thank you for even coming on boss talk one on one man with a boss is talk man you know man and I just think you guys man you're a lot of the stuff the your body of work is undeniable man the acting thing took off for you kind of like what jamie jamie fox you know he wanted to be a singer but the acting thing took off for you see what I'm saying singing yep and so it's like I wanted to do this but god had an ultimate plan to say no we're gonna bring it we're gonna bring you in this way but thank god that you got brought in huh so how did that affect you like far as with the with the acting scaling like it did versus the music you know what I'm saying I mean it's the same it's the same format okay same memorization because the same way I read my raps as I write and read my raps the memorization part of the same thing as I read the script okay what you have to take on character though lyrics it's the same thing I'm only embodying myself a while delivered yeah yeah same thing yeah I just like the way you like you came across like seamlessly you keep going I go back to that big role like you it was like you embodied that like like even like a ray and and jamie fox like you embody that character how many time people tell you like man you killed that I mean you know they tell me a lot but that's what the plan was the plan was to make sure you deliver especially me coming from brooklyn you got to make sure you got a lot on your shoulders because of where you're from too there you got to make it happen what the big big mama what did what did she say about it she loved it she loved it she picked me so she knew you could do it well she didn't know she didn't tell me she felt it yeah yeah but then okay so I re-interviewed a lot of different actors and some of them would tell us that sometimes it's hard to turn off that character when it's time to leave the studio and go home how do you do you are you able to turn it off or when you get home you still try to be bigger during that time because when you're feeling I think it's just me being me okay yeah I think it's just me being me like I think sometimes God picks certain people that could just that just have that then nobody's the same but some people have the same qualities in life and some people are surreal with each other like if you think about R&B and Aaron Hall which one of the greats Aaron Hall right incredible it's our Kelly Kane exactly you know it's the same thing like sometimes you might pick somebody who can be the signature piece that are nearly saying that that can give you what you need you're a music lover for you to say that Aaron Hall and I just that's my argument I'd be like the same thing with um same thing with uh Cisco yeah yeah um KC yeah you're a music man I listen to both riffs and you still can't distinguish which riff is better that's real it's hard some people just have that it that equality because you can go from Jordan and Kobe just like that quickly that's real man I definitely I see I see where you're coming from with it man like people just have it some people just have it and and it's not like you're trying to be like that person it's just everybody some people are just some people just have the connection some kind of way yeah yeah I mean like the chorus but we're different you know big's attitude and um cockiness is way louder than mine yeah I'm super humble I'm super laid back big is more aggressive and loud and this movement is different from mine I'm way less of that I'm super laid back and I gotta know you to open up bigger open up from the door yeah so you got some differences but he's Jamaican yeah yeah look at it again I love it I love it so like like what did he say to you about that role I'm gonna get off this road he loved it he was excited yeah he loved it he loved it he put me in position wow do you guys still talk of course cool cool anytime I can see him or run it through yeah yeah yeah you know he always always shows that love and you don't have to don't have to at all one thing that um a lot of actors seem to dislike is when you get a role so big that when your fans see you all they see is biggie everywhere you go they see you as biggie when you are trying to now elevate and go to new roles trying to expand your acting career how does that affect you that they still refer to you as biggie well if they don't know you in my case I can only speak for what I know right if they don't know you then they do that but I already had a gravy history already gravy already had that way before anything else so it was never a comparison it was like oh man gravy did this thing playing big it was already that's already there so it was never like as somebody just to act to try and play big how you get a name gravy and who gave that to you um street name for me staying on top of my game yeah gravy's always on top oh I never thought about that that's real I never thought I was like gravy how did where did that name come from yeah I got it man I like when you when the my like the music I will go back to that music a little bit in New York they go with the lyrics they not playing with them lyrics um if you don't have lyrics they don't really respect you like you got to bring it you know what I'm saying so did you ever was you one of them guys to battle like you know y'all be gonna battle we don't do battle rap never did never did we ain't do no I mean we said you know when it first when he came and showed me but we don't do the battle rap now we write songs and we we produce and you know that's all I thought all the New York artists start out like that that was coming up I thought that's what they all do well all that put you yeah nah that's not the original rap nah that's late on that was late oh yeah oh wow because all the all the movies I've seen that's how all the kids all always but they talk about like jay-z battle deal links and all this stuff you know they might say battle raps but really those are those are just freestyle news rapping but they didn't really like no battle rap I think battle rap nowadays is on a whole another level it different ain't it yeah it's super different it's more personal it's yeah man it gets it gets ugly it's very talented and very entertaining but it can be very dangerous it can be very dangerous because some of the things are being said I don't see dudes get punched in all kind of stuff I seen it do draws him see come on man it gets yeah intense yeah but and didn't come over the round why drawing is how I mean now you got punched in the face he had is a whole another you know he talked about your mom I can't do it but he's supposed to have a tough skin you know what you're going in there I'm not doing that with y'all now when it's real like if somebody knows something real on you they put your whole personal business out to the world yeah shouldn't have stepped in the game no you can't do me I'm not out there that's why you don't do it because you I can't deal with that you just gotta be comfortable in your skin I think today um today's society you have to be comfortable in your skin with who you are that's real so you don't have to go on front like you somebody else or be something else because the game just got a lot of goofiness going on yeah but even social media though you have to have a tough one they're the goofiest that's the worst y'all don't want to turn you into the goofy I gotta ask you that if you let them that's a good question like how many times you scroll through your joint you see somebody goofy and be like what the hell just how are you doing you know and then people were eating off of that I remember it was about five six years ago where ugly was the new thing man I think the uglier you are you're just flying shout out to Wellvin shout out to all the guys shout out to my boy Wellvin man and A-town A-town yeah the boy if you had a little arm you were special no disrespect no disrespect but I'm just I've seen it they would you know I'm saying it wasn't the cutest things in the world but there was the new it factor that's it yeah you know I ain't ever seen a shit like that in my life 22 Savage shout out you know it's everybody everybody that look because it's like how can you top whatever that's crazy that's going on right now the only way you can top it is be even crazier yeah but why live for me what do you what do you gain and that's the thing that topic though since we in KOD that's the thing with the women like what do you gain by applying a fake ass inflicted like what do you gain from that and then lately with all the killing and that stuff come out of there and you messed up and you and they don't know I think a lot of them the woman because that's that's the discussion that we have very often because what what goes on and what just happened is the fact that he will say it's not the men who are wanting this all these ladies if you talk to them their boyfriends are not telling them go do these surgeries it's the woman who would be like something that I don't know it's I think it's media I think it's I think it's all the women it's all the women it's peer pressure because if we came up in society our mothers will always be covered up if you want to be a man that you imagine what you can see up under this beautiful dress exactly now it's just you reveal everything so there's no you know I mean there's no nothing to look forward to you already see you know what I brought to my daughter's attention the other day because I like to watch movies from when I was growing up and stuff like that and I don't know what movie was but I would show I could show her a barrage of movies and be like look at the difference of these ladies that you see in these movies they're not wearing the weeds they're wearing perm natural hair that's their real butt that's their real boobs that's their you know they still look nice and curvy or you know some of them are bigger whatever but they're all natural and that was the generation that we were in it was mainly about you know this curl or that curl or whatever but it was not about all the thing it was it was about that perm like yeah like man you got a perm that was big back in the day oh now it's natural no you got a perm now that ain't nothing compared to what's going on man so man I just really like I said when I look back at everything that we've we've interviewed a lot of people but you one of those guys I really wanted to sit down with because just like I said I love meeting the new people and the people from like New York I got people to fly in you know I'm like flying in for boss talk they're like yeah we got to come on that set and man and we had to get out of here doing it what two years yeah and it's just like God blessed us with with people like you man I just say I'm gonna never forget you but I already was on you already I don't have to meet you to be on what you're doing you ain't never showed me that funny thing that you just talk about that goofy that's a super goofy you know when I see you it's like respect right it's just you know you just gotta um I think every man and woman should have a character that they stand on that's real you know I'm saying yeah that's real goofy shit it's just uh it affects our kids you know I got a daughter yeah she's 15 oh girl you know son that's my whole world so at the end of the day being goofy and cool when kids just like John Marente yeah yeah I mean kids see you and they look up to you and you know you hold me girl you think that's gangsta it's not gangsta right man I'm saying most gangsters that you made it to the NBA that's gangsta man what's really gangsta is take care of your dog that's gangster but for me personally I take it to the next level but like it's more gangster when you do that and know how to handle the money that you get because so many people get that money and blow it and when you get out you broke you're working at home people after that because you ain't got the money that don't make no sense man so you know I think I agree with you but when you 2021 and they hand you that bag I remember when I was 21 it did a hint you but I hadn't met you then they had me that bag back then in 2021 no you're gonna blow it I'm gonna act up because I because I'm 2021 but when I turn 31 41 you start to see me except that's why people when you my lot of my partners get out of penitentiary they be like man he's your man that nigga change that nigga got old he was gone for seven years you know what I'm saying he was gone for 10 years and so they don't understand they looking at how he used to be but this man that had to go through 10 years the time and when he come home no he don't smoke no more maybe he drank a little bit but he don't do this no more 10 years a long time people gonna change if you in the world for 10 years man and it ain't really about changes about just being smarter being very smart definitely definitely age come with wisdom yeah age come with wisdom I want to get into this movie man trust nobody to man like I was he was in part one he was in part one as well of course like what made you what made you get into this role what was it that stuck out to you to say I'm gonna be in this script well you know any any street roles I love street roles you know man didn't do with the streets because I lived it so by experience you know best experience is best known by experience you know you've been through it you can't act like you know something and you ain't never did it so yeah but um I think one for me was stevo putting it together my man stevo doing his side out putting that together um working in Milwaukee that was different for me yeah I wanted to see the coach I wanted to see Milwaukee how that was how long does it take to film it um it took us about two weeks oh that's a real quick two weeks yeah okay about two weeks you know we got to the business um but it's long hours you know I'm saying yeah you might get up like nine in the morning it works about three or four wow so it's a long hours it ain't you know I mean it ain't sweet it ain't sweet it ain't sweet but um you know we have fun me working with fat boy already knew a fat boy so working with him that was good the chemistry was good Bianca was good everybody you know say when you got a good cast just gonna come out good yeah and then the storyline is good man in acting sorry about being in acting because there's a lot of young kids that also watch a show and stuff like that who might be aspiring to become an actor or actress um what is the most difficult thing about being an actor wow I wouldn't know because everything is just so easy to you it's just gravy I wouldn't know that part I wouldn't know how to be um I wouldn't know nothing nah something like I said some people got it some people don't um or what's the thing that they need to know that um would be beneficial because I know I would I would suggest for anybody to do their research number one definitely do your research check out all the paperwork because you have people what you you ain't gotta do that no no you just gotta try it out because I never did my research you did you just jump full force in something so I can't say that you see what I'm saying yeah so um what I can't say just believe in God number one I gotta stress that definitely God number one and then believe in yourself you know I'm saying and then just go after it I could say that but I can't tell you um homework and all that and everything it's almost like telling a child that um you have to go to college the college doesn't work for everybody it's right right um like my daughter I want her to go to college of course I want her to give it a shot but if it don't work she know already they gotta support her regardless yeah but let's just try it though exactly let's try it you know what I mean but if it don't work that's cool but um yeah I could I mean you gotta believe in yourself you gotta take a chance you gotta risk it all does she say she want to be acting like you oh she loves acting yeah she loves acting she loves swimming she loves doing a bunch of girly things so that's a good thing but I guess I'm telling people you just gotta go for it man it's gotta be in your heart you know I ain't go for it because if you don't that's why I say you know trying is winning yeah some people don't even want to try no you're right don't even want to try like you want to tell you about something that ain't even gonna try I'm gonna be honest that that daughter thing is hard for me I got two daughters and that boy thing I can't deal with none of that I never could with my oldest daughter I can't but I just don't do it well I don't want to meet I didn't meet nobody tell me about her husband you know I just don't play no games man like when I see you I know already what I think about it and I'm not I'm gonna go all the way out so I don't want to meet nobody I don't want to know you I'm not doing none of that all I want to do is be there for and I tell it man hey look you go in the brown way you go up here you call me I'm on the flight quick I'm going all the way out that's what you mean and she more like listen to about all this stuff I'll be like because at the same time like I always feel like you need to listen to them because they gonna have a boyfriend or a crush or whatever regardless and I just don't want any girls to be trying to go behind nobody's back to try to do stuff I prefer for you to come to me I've been there done that did a whole bunch of different stuff yes your friends can tell you stuff but they're still young too you need to be able to come to me I'm not your best friend I'm your mom but I'm still your friend so-called you know what I mean so I need for you to be able to open up to me and tell me stuff he can be the hard one in certain cases and I'll be the hardest in certain things we have to have a balance right how are you do you want to meet anybody you want to meet nobody I want to meet him you want to meet him because I need to know where yet because I gotta see him is it so is it a thing where you've had to meet somebody yet nah she I mean she got a little they be having them young crush she got a little uh at that like for me and her she's still she don't really know like they don't really know what love is or anything like that I just go with the flow yeah like I love pretend to to just to assume you know I mean she know what it is but I always tell her I always keep keeping 100 with mine like yo it's gonna be a million boys you mean yeah yeah it's gonna be stages this one is not gonna last some longer than you know this stage now I'm not saying that it can't happen sometimes you might meet one that be there forever but that's just all about destruction who's to say I'm I'm gonna live in Atlanta forever I'm gonna live here like you know certain things tell you apart and move away and meet different people when you get to school you meet different that was the whole part of taking her out of new york yeah yeah taking her out of brooklyn and let her get well the other students in classes where it's an indian kid and a Russian you know to keep her diverse mind yeah yeah instead of being in a class with just dirty black kids yeah yeah yeah she needs to see other things yeah it's a better thing not saying it's wrong but I wanted to see other things I think you did it right you know I mean other other ethic groups and just mix don't get into that world of race don't get into none of that we're all the same that's real so that's it but you know right now 15 she ain't really she ain't into that I mean you know I'll always be loyal to myself my father so she's certain things her mother gonna know more than me there you go so I guess we on the same page yeah my father I mean she's not going to give me the whole shebang you know I mean she's gonna do things that I know she's doing already that's the balance smart though I'm not you know I'm not you know I know you out there doing other things yeah yeah yeah right so yeah just you know respect me enough to tell me if things go wrong that's all I want that's it that's it yeah that's it don't fall in love with a nigga put his hands on you ain't I ain't trying to hear that see I ain't see a woman or tell I'll be the one who'd be sitting I said okay these are the clues you look for if you see this happen head this way if you you know what I mean because I feel like you you need to prepare them for for certain things because certain things will happen and you're not going to always be there all the time because they're going to leave your house and be gone you they need to know what to look for the telltale signs that's the mother part that's the mother discuss her sacred spot and all that with the stuff you know let the moms handle that yeah yeah I just hand through the finance security that's that's pretty much that's it that's it and if that security needed you know I'm coming and I'm coming everything I got right I got two I got two it is what it is so what is it about um trust no one um trust nobody nobody sorry um part two and part one because some people might not have even seen part one you gotta see part one to catch up to the trilogy exactly because we did sit down and watch both and you know I don't want to tell nothing to spoil any spoilers and stuff like that but a lot of twists yes got a lot of twists a lot of things that I didn't expect um I didn't even think that you were coming back in a party I was shocked when I heard that there was a part two because I thought that you know so but um it was a lot of surprising I love Shane first part you know I wish I could have seen her in part again because I love I loved your chemistry with her on on the film you know but um things happen things happen exactly but what what is it but what is it about it that um you would tell people who are watching like the reason why they have to go see this show because it's it's dope and if you're from Milwaukee you gotta go see it you know what I'm saying because you know as you know there was no avenue in Milwaukee for this this platform until Steve Olas we've started doing it so you know you want to get down with the get down you got to roll with what's what's hot okay and it's like we did in New York like we we we didn't know what's going on until we seen the rough riders and we seen the rock we seen the murder ankle we see those are the things that kept us in tune with his other things and other platforms we can do yeah by following the blueprint so it's the blueprint especially for Milwaukee you know what I mean so you gotta go see it and it's a good film it is do you think there'll be a part three we're already shattered Steve will be mad at me for saying that but we already we're already way ahead of everybody wow yeah but don't stay stay focused on part one and two because we're gonna be part one and two you're not gonna understand three so just stay focused on one and two so there's a lot of twist always it's a movie you see I'm that that person that when I watch movies my daughter always crack up about me because I'm like oh I know what's gonna happen and I'll tell her and it normally always happen even if I can sometimes see the twist coming and I can and I'm always on point with these when you try that we already made sure we do it like that yeah so it won't be that I'm telling you right now when when I seen you in the bed the blood on your chest I was like man oh I'm like it's tough tough when things happen yeah when things happen I was like man and and it just just to see you in that element because you know I really like I said I was like man in the street you know what I'm saying like like it's money involved it's it's action it's it's everything that you're looking for when it comes down to a field I think one of them is um all of them have messages yeah yeah um and I think the the first one gives you family values of how families be the worst enemy yeah you know what I'm saying like you may think that you know what I mean my brother my right hand my sister my right hand you know what I mean but sometimes it's not like that it's a lot of people that live life like that like jealousy is serious is a serious business you know what I'm saying inside the household it shouldn't be it shouldn't be but it do but it showed both because then y'all the brother was not like that you see what I mean so it's not just showing one side and it showed both sides that you do have some people who are loyal but you do what you do got sisters are very jealous right let me ask you this like being in Milwaukee versus the culture in New York and and coming in that old realm what similarities did you see when it come down to just street and hood and just the way we are it's different everywhere yeah definitely it's different it's no um it's the same structure you know I mean you can't you can't outdo the structure of being in the hood but it's always different little entities like in Milwaukee it may not be every block as outside like they're not outside like that at night yeah like three four in the morning you in New York everybody's outside still look like a common all-day thing wow you know what I'm saying so I'm a whoa they're not outside like that like every block you really turn everybody now they're not outside like that I mean they're killing like that but they're not outside like that that's probably one of the reason they ain't outside like yeah yeah you know I'm saying um Milwaukee that bad I'm in a little know what you get out because when I think about bad I think about like Chicago when we went to Chicago I hear about Chicago same day really yeah that's why they all all three of those is right connected together you got Detroit you got Milwaukee Detroit in Chicago it's only three hours three hours that's right oh right yeah it's all the same yeah because we never did go through Milwaukee we went to Chicago we went to Detroit I gotta go to Milwaukee I'm gonna go cuz uh I got people over there man uh and and to be honest with you I've been growing my base over there it's time Boston got to pull up in Milwaukee I got people in that thing I'm gonna pull up so you need yeah yeah I'll pull it up man you're good I'm good check in I gotta ask you about that you know is it important what is the way you look at the word check in exactly some people get the word see from New York we take check in as extort correct tell us check in we were like nigga fuck you talk about who you talking about because the way you're saying it we don't understand that sling you saying check it that's that like extort but when you break it down and somebody's saying yo man I think you just need to move around the city with some some other some other folks to keep it you know man because we love we love to get active too yeah so we don't never feel like any state we go to I don't care where we at we just being from Brooklyn we are active too we always gonna feel that's why you always a DJ Brooklyn we didn't really give fuck where we at we don't get active just as anywhere you at and everybody feels like that everybody every Detroit feels like that Milwaukee feels like that Chicago feel like that you don't mean so yeah whoever you know I mean you just got to be smart and just embrace whatever you embrace like me I checks in yeah and that's not about extorting and nobody's starting me I just checking because there's a respect the same way somebody came and they came to New York and they need to move around yeah yeah I'll let them know how to move around like you can't you can't come to somebody hood and and act like you know what's going on there or set up there or just act like you the god and in the hood I guess because they're gonna check you yeah yeah well see this that's the thing about the checking see once again the UI we don't we don't we don't we don't adapt we don't adapt well to somebody telling us you're gonna check us like we're supposed to oh you're gonna check us so we're gonna run or we're gonna move or we nah we ain't the nigga we're flying into your city you know we're gonna fly to Milwaukee we're gonna fly to Detroit we're gonna fly to Chicago and it is what it is like we Brooklyn New York we New York it don't matter Bronx it don't matter we coming wherever you at you especially if you the one with the mouth because we just come on man you can't do that no you can't say like Dallas you can't just pull up you can't just be like yo you know how put your Dallas nigga going to somewhere and somebody telling him hey man you can't just pull up no he don't want that shit because he feel the same way at home you can't come to my home running through these streets acting like you that's gonna cause that kind of energy you get what you put out right now if you tell me I'm cool and I come and because I'm gonna talk to people like when I go to New York I got Junebug or I got Conrad you know from Queens and Brooklyn and they're gonna be like he here they go pull up now that ain't checking in now they're my people see them saying yeah where I feel it ain't about checking it just I got people everywhere yeah I got a million niggas this car got a million and they respect it yeah like I'll move around with nothing that's unun I don't move around with uncertified niggas that's real every nigga I move around with is certified and if Jay Prince taught me that that's real like when I first went to Houston Jay Prince was the first one to take me to Houston and I stayed too much with him wow kick shit wow man show me the game show me the cows the horse is everything and the the um the rabbalot on the back of the cow's ass already he showed me how you know how to make that money and do this and do that and they showed me the compound they introduced me to a son Brandon yeah both his sons and I messed with him you know what I'm saying and mom tells me I love him and it was and it was all love always that's real and I check in I said when I get in a holla I call state L I get my sandwiches get my food I run through the city I put my rabbalot chain on he used to give me and I run through the city days so how did you in that first meeting like even linking with Jay Prince and the Y Clef studio Y Clef studio yeah Y Clef studio I forgot who else was recording that day but it was in Y Clef studio and Jay Prince was there and I was in there seeing Y Clef doing something and Jay Prince was there and I was like oh oh gee what's happening he like hey what's up I'm like man I know you is you ain't got to say nothing it's an honor you know I mean we're very big and he liked my mouthpiece that's real that's real don't talk to him a certain way but I was admiring him like the oh gee like that's real you know I mean I grew up off you yeah yeah yeah it's where it's supposed to be because it's real I said some crazy things to him you know I'm saying that he made me feel like yo you crazy come on you come out to him you know I'm saying yeah yeah but I was I don't like give me the blueprint man show me what you know what I gotta do man and it's like I say I'll never forget that song that uh my boy DJ quicky when he said I went here and it's just like Compton he named it everything because it reminded him it's something in the hood and dealing with the structure that'll remind you to say hey man listen you got it it can be the same anywhere you go so you need to make show Baron Davis okay okay Baron Davis the big homie Baron Davis terminator um term uh um J rock top dog that's all that's all that's my that's my god whack 100 see me I don't never have one of the things that's so similar about me and big is is the relationships big on relationship love they love gravy like I love them yeah so it's always you know I'm saying yeah it's always it's always anywhere I can go man you know I mean but that's a gift gravy bottle hitting bounty killer hitting beanie man but hitting uh uh anybody I get I get the top guys but all my guys are the top guys like I told you before yeah affiliation is what makes it greater right but you don't understand how important networking and keeping those relationships it's important you keep it exactly it's super but one thing about everybody can't do what gravy just said right everybody because some people don't know how to do be a relationship they don't know they do exactly like if you grew up anyway if your parents grew you up a certain way you gonna move that whether you like it or not so a lot of time people have how many problems communicate how many niggas you can have in your house with a million dollars on the table and come back in the same million no sit there all right that's just a little structure like Steve will might say yo come out to the crib and I'll be like all right where you at and he'd be like yo I'm getting ready running the store but my wife did yeah not happening yeah I meet you at the store there you go you know you don't say that's real just that's just that's protocol I live by every nigga don't live that's what I was saying that's gonna go straight to the crib and be that way and doing shit all kind of saying the wife look like he'd be looking at me funny or tell him Steve hey he was I don't want to be in that position I wouldn't even put myself in it you shouldn't even put yourself there I'll wait till you come out the store I'll go just to the store when I leave you leave that's where a nigga gonna be in your crib you need a crib and he's staying in your crib when you leave no it's just protocol man it's so broken that I need to be reinforced we need to get back to it oh man and I think we can do it with the way you're speaking now and the way I am goofy niggas yeah but you got the circle that you've been in that yeah yeah I can't let them in I can't even deal with it but you can feel that spirit though when you get around certain people well some niggas is good at this but these niggas be on fire for foolishness he ain't live go the distance he's gonna like movies play he's gonna reach out movies where a god betrays a woman he been trying to do that forever yeah yeah he might go the whole five four six seven years till he reveal the truth like finally bitch I got you man you be like yeah you know because you know it's sneak attack like you they could play good actors nipsey hustle man man for the whole time man I know and knew it hey but nipsey my boy like I met him like it's a motherfucker now that made a lot of people check the people around them you try you can you can't see it until some mistake happens that's the only bad part until something goes wrong I still I still can't yeah know if he gonna be foul or not until it happens yeah and I hope that when it happens it's not too late but I think because of situations I've been in in life being in some of those hard situations it made me have trust issues bro like I knew that people didn't love me when I faced life changing situations where I could have lost my life and I was sitting down for a second or something it taught me man like don't believe everybody because they ain't gonna be there for you and therefore a lot of the stuff does that boom yeah they ain't gonna be there for you nobody and they don't really care and it's and that's sad and you know what but it's good though you can trust you but let me tell you something true story and I just thought about this when I was on a lot I got trust no one but God on my back that's what's on my back because I ain't trust nobody and nothing bro you're the best to you yeah yeah so in this in this and then go back to the film a little bit like like in this film like man you had you you know you had some love scenes in there you know how hard is them love scenes but no sex scenes though but no but no sex scenes though no we didn't really get to that what the hell is it I'm trying to do it boy man we don't need to we need to get some like some some power like some ghosts no y'all love to get all land man we don't get that serious we won't well we didn't get that serious yet oh sorry but it's coming we will be coming soon take out your words but just doing those scenes though those are easy for you huh yeah yeah is it easy to come out of character no I'll be in character all the way in character but it seemed real I mean it's my job but how do you keep it professional because so many times we see actors big actors have been doing it for years big example mr mr mrs smith they might be doing it for you see what I mean they ended up falling up getting married eventually because of that magic is just about how far you tap in how far you tap in you know because them loves it's serious because you're building a relationship with this person so you can have that chemistry on film right that's what it's all about having great chemistry right but you know Columbus when he was on our show he told he was like no I hate I messed up one time I ended up being he like he ended up being with Britney Spears he's like man I messed up I shouldn't have went all the way and he ended up you know being together he like I shouldn't have did it because he kind of messed him up for his on the on the work they were doing together after that because you know you got to still work with this person if y'all decided ain't right you know I'm saying if you go too far so it's just a lot of relationships is hard anyway now you got the cameras on your relationship and you don't like a person that would flip things out so let me just ask you man like what's what what's next man what like what what do you want to do I'm comfortable winding up like man I'm just getting started really I'm just having fun man like the way I went the way I ran through my rap career I having so much fun like 25 years running through the game meeting so many people and enjoying the same way I'm treat the acting game wow I'm just starting man I'm fresh out how many films you have under your belt right now because every time I look it up I see like a lot I wouldn't know probably 30 40 John I don't know and how long ago did you start how how long ago did Biggie come out what year did that 2009 2009 so you've only been doing this since 2009 but I ain't really I ain't really push it like I'm pushing it now in the beginning was just you know oh this is new this is wow but I still was trying to rap and be great so what made you so what made you um what changed your mind what made you like I'm gonna push this now well I ain't decided to push nothing till my daughter was fully fully grown while I felt like I took off from the game because I wanted to be a great father so until she was right I ain't care about nothing else I just wanted to make sure she right because that time I can't get back that's true I can't put in that time like you know you got a lot of people who uh jeopardize that time and you you know the money ain't everything people lose that you know people go for the money over the the well-being of the child and you can't rescope that I think it's very important something I've always told him because when I lost my dad it's like a light bulb came on and I realized that because I have a lot of memories with him because I was a tomboy growing up I used to go fishing hunting did everything with him and when I lost him I realized that as much as like America makes you want to grind and work all the time to make a better life for your family but by doing so you might not always be there to build those memories with your children so that's on that's on you you gotta sacrifice exactly everything in life is a sacrifice and for for her I'll sacrifice anything so I did that now she's fully aware what I am who I am and now she chillin so now I'm going back to work this real top three uh actors of all time top three top three am I opinion yes yeah it's your opinion did a lot that are alive yeah that's hard man well first I just gotta be with super respectful and go with Cindy Poitier okay man I love me some Cindy Poitier yeah no and then I gotta go number two I gotta do Denzel of course that's my guy and then number three I gotta I can be any gender too don't I do this be mad no I'm gonna go I'll give you a couple genders but I I'm I'm gonna go then your favorite 30 40 a Denzel Denzel and then I'm gonna go um Jamie Foxx that's my guy that's real that's a hard that's not just that's this that's a hard top three yeah because then I still got my um Robert De Niro that's me me and you on it says that's me Robert De Niro's cloney I still got my other sides you know I mean so wow plenty plenty plenty well top three artists for his music all time because you you both I can't do top five no three top three top five was hard you better cut some people off at top three we just can't cut off though but if I'm gonna do it I'm gonna go on I'm gonna go big parking us that's more top three but that's that's the new ever three you still got rock ham yeah you got you got LL them they all back down you know what I'm saying so that's hard so it's the genre yeah yeah yeah but it's it's not easy but the one you named was hard bro my three for me growing up in 1975 I'm going big going pop I'm going Nas wow and that's huge bro I mean that's that's what it is yeah that's huge cuz man big man listen man I didn't even I was not even like I'm a top notch big fan Mike Jones came on my show man and he shut me down when he came he told me why the nigga got so excited and he was like because he made it good for big dudes to be feel confident and he started talking about it and just really pretty much pulling out how much he changed his career and I was like damn man I'm I'm I'm scared I'm just barely escaping the surface ain't thinking deep enough Mike right now it's it's like he man like he really that guy he comfort zone wow man that changed the game man but I had another question for you one more question okay is the first time you saw yourself because you know y'all go to the premiere and actually see yourself on the big screen the first time you saw yourself on the big screen what did you think about your acting I don't know I never looked at it like that so how did you look at the first time you watched it on the screen just me just me doing me really yeah just me doing me I kind of know my mom's kind of put it in the perfect way before she left this world my mom was just like um so she was crying so I'm like what are you crying for she's just happy for you know for the premiere and all that but she's like you know you up there and the world think you're big and when you're just being you so it hit me at that time but it hit me now like you know I mean like sometimes you just you just you you are just what you are yeah you know man you ain't even got to sell that that's just about you you being in who you are it's already written out for what you're supposed to be you know saying I tried to be somebody I'm not just me and you fit you fit the scripts you do I mean that's just I see why you say you're so they back you're not a critical thinking person because a lot of people who um especially with your first time acting would see that would be like man I could have done that better you know like really just dissecting the whole film for your first time I'm like okay I need to start working on this I need to start working on Jay-Z saying you know one of my favorite artists Jay-Z when he when he say um well if you got another one make another one that's what he said he said you hear me like I ain't that guy but if I ain't the guy then do do another like me that boy said I heard because he done did it he done did it he done right her main hoes say okay so I'll make another hoe they weren't paying a day wrong that's how I feel with me with films like if you could do another big ad hey man that's real the numbers is different yeah like if I'm talking to somebody they're like y'all want to book you and I'm like yo it's 30,000 35 or whatever they're like well why why why man do research you know what I'm saying because if you can do it with somebody else that's on my left then you'll make this the money but the money gonna be different the money gonna be different you know it's gonna be different so let me get mine and get about your business do whatever you say you're gonna do and make it better really because then ain't nobody really thinking of how to really use me a lot of dudes just shoot me but they don't really use me like they could use me marketing purposes I can get you the way you want to get to to get to the bass real but ain't nobody ever think about using me except steve because you're not really understanding the red tape you're gonna go through to push any other artist or any other actor you want to go through to get them on our interview with anything breakfast club this one that this is 50 you can go ahead and push all you want to push and you're gonna be paying that's real for me you're gonna get right in there oh yeah ain't nobody ain't gonna interview me for free man everybody's gonna be you y'all man it's gonna be great we got costs you got I got the call you can't y'all big man come on man stop so it's it's it's a key for the new you gotta pay stevo now because I don't get you free game you gotta pay you gotta pay him to give me the move through your your jump yeah be smart that's it man would you ever do any other genres because I know a lot of genres usually the street I do everything man it man it's so funny man and this is a touchy situation but I'm a real niggaz I don't give a fuck but um one of my homies like yo would you have a play gay dude I'm like damn homie what's happening he like because somebody came to you and said he'll give you 20 million dollars I'm like yo you know what shit shit you should be like how gay no I didn't really buy how gay yeah because it's gonna be friends I got nigga I had a no but I'm talking about would you like because it will there be romantic scenes hey listen you could have stand-ins yeah you know contractual we got somebody standing and do whatever you you're right you claim you want to do right and that ain't me right but you know you gotta go do what you gotta do I you know I ain't got a homophobia you dig a real nigga but I mean you know 20 million hey we're gonna have to think about this a lot of people say a lot of things when they're 20 million on the table yeah they say a lot of things but when they're 20 million on the table there's a lot of niggaz out here saying a lot of things doing it for free free look out now real penis on the floor liar they and then yeah right then when it come out to be like damn you should at least got 20 million for that man so hey that's a crazy subject yeah I'm cool with why am I my sister would you wear a dress oh man would you dress up and wear a dress Fox did what he's playing wonder and which one and no in uh uh living color he played wonder oh that's that's that's colony would you I know would you or not 20 million 20 million yeah I think I'm gonna go get so that's crazy so hey so gravy uh man listen man would you like like if you could go back and let's think back like well if you went back to your 20 year old self would you change anything nah because I wouldn't be who I am now that's real that's real so you can't critique see that's the thing about God that's why I stress that a lot you can't um you can't critique or fix your fix your way of thinking because just because your life was this way and it was all messed up right and you go back like I want to fix it okay we go back and fix one thing something else is going to change that's real so it might not bend your arm that was the problem on your body this time it's gonna be your neck yeah and then you go back and change it again okay so now it ain't gonna be your arm on your neck this time it's gonna be your foot like there's no there's no rules to the man upstairs and what he's gonna give you yeah so by going back it's almost like you're disrespecting him that's real because you're acting like he ain't giving you the portfolio what you need to be you so in the same way like me for example you wanted to be the best rapper you could ever be in your life everybody know that gravy can wrap he do his thing hey that's that dude at that time as me as God with you I said to myself yeah I'm gonna let him do all that so he can get in condition to the next level I got for him yeah which meaning that I'm gonna make him play the best rapper that ever was alive let's give him a big portfolio so he can get big enough in the acting world to go back to the music yeah yeah you see what I'm saying yeah because when you're on that level then you can always do music at any given time you want to that's what he was doing the music you didn't have the other plateau to make one to go yeah so it's just about it's just about levels you have to get on certain levels to make everything pop just like you getting married that's really you wasn't gonna get a real blessing until you got married you know I'm saying God not gonna give you or give you the the holiness you need until you get married everybody know when you get married you get super blessed super bless not super want to get married because I'm waiting to give no no no no no it got to be real and authentic right when you do all the doors open that's real you know what I'm saying so it's really got you got to really be in tune to who you are and what you're doing and when you get that you do it because a lot of young teens and young dudes right now are lacking they're lacking that self awareness yeah because they got to follow the figures that's coming up we had our dads at home every now and then doing whatever a full time or whatever now it's just the errors is different they be jailed they locked up they did so they so the young boy coming out the room 19 years old with his moms and two sisters and two brothers he think he demanded a home yeah automatically there's no other man they so you can't blame him for feeling like that that's real you know what I mean but he's just determined to go find another way the only other way is what's in front of the door that's real I can't I can't do we got to go with the hustle you know I mean now you could give him the the uh the long day dream story uh go to college educate yourself be great don't fall into the streets but he lived there yeah yeah so I realized that yeah that's real but not everybody who live in the streets and upon the streets right but the pressure is there because now you got 15 niggas outside his door every day like yo why are you walking past us every day like you're better than us so now he's forced now happens a lot of Chicago yeah you can't be on the block and you don't only do that's not in the set that's real so what we're getting ready to do here yeah yeah we're gonna just make you know I'm saying so it's like the precious but you've never always thought the way how you think now the when did you have that pivotal moment in your life that changed your thinking to this point that you're at now I mean I've always been like that always always been young and with old dudes that's me I always always always uh he's always mature for your age yeah because I was with the older crowd I was 12 sneaking in the shadow you know it's a club you can't go in unless you 20 something you know I'll get in that jump that's the same way I was I was I was always with the old heads will give me a hundred my Jamaican posse crew from um empire notion they were super big you know I mean they was moving all the drugs in Brooklyn from Flappers for man oh man the 90s posse those and others so when um Steve my man Steve the head Jamaican they go empire where I grew up at will always come downstairs y'all come out now go over there and you like I'll grab it go suck on so I'll be like yo all right boom he gave me a hundred hey take the all night give me up too high and I'm getting stout and run down there so my sugar king and brown box I'm gonna bring back bow bow bow give me a shake so keep the change so nigga keep me in that chain you know I'm so early so I'm just like damn let me start being around them yeah and I have my Haitian dudes that lived on the other side and they tell me y'all you know griot they call me sauce why sauce why I mean the gravy the sauce y'all and they talk to me like that and they tell me whatever and I go get the griot and the soup and I taste the food and I'm like oh man come in and I'm a Puerto Rican homeless cross the street and bushwick when I moved you know they tell me so it's just a multi diverse diverse so what's going on and I just took it all in I say this you may even think about being in New York man the first time I ever went to New York and I was hustling and I thought so much of they hustle because I'm like these things sell everything I say anything and everything but the biggest thing was I met this one dude I can't remember his name so I'm not gonna lie but the one thing he told me and he was so passionate about I've been on this block for 26 years I'm like what he's like this is where I'm at anybody you come on this side of town I'm on this block I'm like what the hell going on you never leave this block I couldn't believe you could be in it but they make it good money everywhere but they make good money don't they oh he's not broke he might own the building these people don't want to leave you know man I got sisters like that they never leave the block they never leave in New York it's just the ground some people just don't want to leave you know some people got mothers that they try them and they won't leave they don't want to leave that's what they used to they don't want to live their environment they comfort zone wow so you know it is what it is what do you what would you say to people who say in New York people are rude it's just um I mean not all of us it's just uh it's a tonality the city the city uh the state of mind of the city yeah we go through so many pressures and rent is expensive everything and small women are expensive expensive everything is you know I mean everything is for something so you know me coming to the land I just wanted the hospitality I wanted to do something different I wanted to make my money longer and work and do bigger things and get my daughter different I love soul form a country boy yeah you know I mean so you just you adapt to move around I try many places but you just need something that can still keep the pace not too slow yeah but faster yeah you know I tried shawl it was too slow for me try shawl yeah I tried shawl I tried san Antonio I went to Houston I went to Houston I tried for all you didn't like Houston Houston was cool but it's too night time is for me yeah yeah yeah everything happened you never tried Dallas not ever tried Dallas a lot of people moving to Dallas I see people there that I wouldn't you would never know was there the thing that took me out out about the south because you know we go to Jamaica you know everybody talks to you nobody ever walks in the room as to not say good morning good afternoon good evening people talk to you but I remember going to Florida they don't do that in Florida people wind up your window they don't they don't talk to you true same thing in Jamaica some dudes like you know I mean like when I'm with your man so that's what I meant Dallas yeah brother shoe shine okay not dog not dog at all nothing straight kill me not the serious look I was like yo what's up man what's happening no talking I'm like damn he's scoping you out my man was telling me yo I'm not shoe shine I'm not Dallas but I'll kill him I'm like yeah how about that you know when some things just ain't they friendly no no no no and I had you don't have to get used to people like again the way you brought up man it's got a lot to do with it like if you meet their parents or something it's one I'm gonna be like no I don't don't trust nothing nobody that dude that's a little serious man hey man so man how can people get a whole day if they're trying to reach out man ain't man to book you or anything did I let me on my instagram my facebook is all the same all the same Jamal gravy will all oh you got the grave in there oh gravy is it got to be necessity man it's not a walk it's a necessity man same man so you get everything out of it did you want to know about what's happening in part three and he ain't gonna let you in on me holding up yeah but I'm gonna get it over there in a moment oh yeah we're gonna get him yeah yeah we gotta give it up yeah yeah let's get this done man say thank you for coming on the show we love you bro I'll be back man every time and if you come to Dallas and don't come see me oh no I'm gonna come see I'm gonna see you booked I'm pulling up I'm gonna go see what this man man thank you so much for coming on the show man say man it's been another great segment a boss talk 101 what a boss is talk and we out man