 What is up hot makers welcome the hot makes right here on hot makes hot makes live all the things I'm nerdy J. This my friends is John. How you doing John? I'm doing great. How are you doing Jim? Oh, it is I'm doing great. It's a great day And it's always a good day when we get to talk to you We're we're here live well kind of life you're in the Netherlands and Full disclosure this may or may not be live so you guessed by the end of the stream We have a link in the description if you want to toss us some donations or anything for the channel There's a link in the description. Also You can find us today on the both YouTube channels. I think a Facebook twitch all the things And let's see. I think we're up to like Almost 750 subs or something like that on the channel on this on this particular channel So on if you haven't joined the hot makes channel jump on that and there will be a link in the description below But all that aside, whoa, what what? What if what if what if we end up getting like a thousand subscribers between now and when this episode posts? Then I guess we'll find out if it's live or not I Love it. So if there's a thousand subscribers right now, we're in the future. We'll just say that Yeah But welcome man, it's it's been a long time since we had you on the show at least a year and We just saw you at at Murph in the end of June and early July there. So Yeah, that was awesome Yeah, thanks, and that's the review studio last time we have had this We've had a chat So I'm in a new studio all new. It's more than a year. Yeah, or more than a year that I'm in the studio and Since I think already four weeks. We have a second studio with all the 3d printers. So I'm not in In between all printers except for this one Yeah, so it's so well, I've printed a lot of ABS lately and Well, it's for the rims. So I've printed ABS rims out of seven kilos of ABS Whoa, and that was in this room and as you know that ABS isn't the most healthy Stuff so I might have a bit of brain damage But so it was a good thing to have all the stuff over there with the noise and to have finally a Clean environment where I can showcase my projects and also do some editing and not having Constantly having printers in the background and not having the noise. Yeah, that's nice Well, it's awesome that you've we've watched some videos about the new the new new studio where you moved your printers in Or actually, I think maybe you showed it on Twitter. I think you had both didn't you? I think you posted a video about it, too. Yeah Monitor stand and that's right. Yeah, that was awesome. By the way I Was thinking I might you know, I might have to take that last time we talked and it was it was so long ago We were talking about I believe we were talking about The camera The slider there we go. I'm looking at my slider. It's sitting right here And I'm like I just lost the name of the dang thing. It's cause like, but yeah, you had that sweet camera slider I think you like went around and all sorts of crazy stuff It was a camera slider that runs on clipper and it was more like It was also because of Thomas Sandladder Sandladder, he made a video about the forum and everyone was spamming him that he must use a clipper and it was more of a joke to use or misuse clipper for a camera slider and Well, it and there was some guy who was talking about Host called and you can reduce vibrations Okay, you said that's what clipper can do. You can mount a g sensor and reduce for Vibrations to do that with the camera slider and get extra smooth Oh, I think that's interesting, but I have input shaper. That's the man in push a per on a camera slider But that would be crazy. So so I envision the top of your new studio has like tracks all around it So you can like drive your, you know, you're slider around the whole studio. Nah Pretty cool Trust full of stuff. So it looks study. I like but it must be right. Could be Rumin off here. Good idea. That would be it's like a train. It just drives around your studio If it tracks you as it goes around No, that was a really cool video you put out I mean, I was like I said over a year ago and The camera slider was awesome. Now you're working on some new stuff Before we get into that I gotta ask you I gotta ask you before we before we go any further How was your visit to the US for for Murph? I think you had a I mean when I saw you you're having a lot of fun so it was awesome and It was for me the first time in the States and what I especially liked if this is that I'm a huge fan of the blues brothers and When I was when I arrived at the Airport in Chicago in Chicago Took the train to the city center and while I was in the train I was wait a minute. This everything looks familiar and I asked a couple of days later. It is The Blues Brothers perhaps recorded here. Yeah, it was in Chicago. Oh, okay. I was Convinced that it was well and for me, it's like a Being in a movie set because the only thing I've seen from the States is the movies and most movies I watch are from the state So it felt weird for me to see well How everything looks you have that the train on top of the roads and right all your electrical Wiring is in in the air. We have everything in the ground. So everything looks different. That's interesting Oh That's awesome It was and even we were in a very small town What was the name again? Goshen, Indiana Goshen. Yeah. Yeah but The smaller it was weird to see that everything was has a drive in a drive-through and No sidewalks. So Did you see any of the Amish buggies? No, I haven't driving on the road Talk to me about Yeah, we'll have to get you back so you can we can take you in the country. Usually you see those everywhere I know what was it? Was it Friday night? I think it was Friday night when we all ended up at the wings wings stopper wing wings, etc. I think is what is it was called and I know like hours before you and you and Stefan were like, we're gonna go get food And then you showed up like two hours later at the wings, etc. And you're like, yeah, they didn't have food but we found the drinks and And I think didn't Stefan order like 3,000 wings or something. He ordered like this monster pile of wings Yeah, it was just the American size Wings. Yeah, well, he didn't order that but he got that so it was like a miscommunication that and Was the poor save on with its pile of wings and he wasn't hungry and just he wanted to throw away it. It's the food so It was And also that the beers like well do one beer and I expect a beer, but you get a beer. Yeah Wings, etc. Was it was different. I ordered them. We'll call it a Guinness I did order a Guinness and I was expecting the pint of Guinness, you know And it came out in that big cup and I was like, whoa, this this is awesome if Sam Prentice is watching It was a coke. I promise it wasn't to Guinness. We call we call coax Guinness sometimes in the US But yeah, it was a lot of fun. It looked like you were having a blast at the event. He saw a ton of cool stuff, right? Definitely. Yeah, and and it was a blast to be together there with Stéphane and also meet lots of guys that I know from from YouTube like Chuck and Brian and the pooch, of course, so it was fun to meet everyone and especially the It was very welcome very welcoming and I was like Five meters in on the first day and it was already a John and I definitely didn't expect that so that was very cool Yeah, there was a lot of people like super excited to talk to you super excited to meet you in person. I think I think Stefan I think Stefan was filming and I was there was this little kid who really wanted to meet him And he's like what he's filming. I'll find it. I was like come on over here as I case to find real quick Let's get this little guy really wants to meet you and he turned around and he was super nice to you know The little kid and but that's how that's how most people are in the community and in Murph is like Murph is like a big Get together with a bunch of friends and we all bring cool stuff and then we admire everybody's cool stuff, you know Yeah, and and the community I mean even like to get in the meet the people that like you said we don't get to see on a normal basis or almost ever In person that that's such a fun time Definitely, yeah, it was awesome So I'm really looking forward to to earth Yeah, so that's in three weeks already. Yeah, are you coming? Yeah? Yeah, I didn't know you were coming and I also I also bring a an present or present surprise pleasant surprise. I'm going to bring a lot of Food that American people really like and can only be bought. It's typically Dutch and it's not drop. It's not licorice So I'm going to get with with Max and and a name from a drop effect and not fetus by now so we're traveling together and I'm at his booth and We're going to have an awesome time That is going to be awesome. Actually, I have the drop effect Extruder hot ended right over here. So I need to get that on a plane with it Gradient. Yeah, I haven't tried it yet, but I also have it and it looks very good. So it looks pretty awesome I need to get it on. Yeah, that's going to be so much cool. I I'll be there as well I'm super pumped to hang out in a completely different part of the country Earth is a different Earth is a different event, but it's so much fun as well It's it's it's we're gonna have a blast. What it'll be what two weeks or something from now And you know and and that'll be a it'll be a lot of fun So maybe we'll have to get some footage or I'm thinking about doing like a live hot makes and just like walking around the event If I can get good Wi-Fi. It's at the college. So it should be good Wi-Fi. Oh That's a good one go send That would be awesome. Yeah, everybody's happy for that. So so Excited to see you in a couple weeks at Earth. That's gonna be a lot of fun. I know a lot of fun people Joe Joe make sure make and breaks. Well, I can't even say his name making breaks is coming I know Sam Prentice is coming I know a bunch of people are gonna be there of course and so it's gonna be fun to meet a lot of people You're gonna meet different people too. Like I said different part of the country. So different people can actually travel there It'll be a lot of fun One of the cool things about the community is We need to talk about this we need to talk about this. So so this is a thing This is a thing This is this is This came out This print came out and I chatted immediately the first person I saw this printed I was like is that John I'm pretty sure that's John Let's see, let's see if I can scroll in we can't kind of I'm pretty sure they modeled this after you Yeah, it's Yeah, you can see a bit a bit of the resemblance So ever since this has come out like everybody's tagging you in these things How do you yeah, what's your thoughts? I think it's it's awesome. I think the the model itself is is awesome So and the first time I was attacked and on Instagram first And I was like, oh that that looks sick. I didn't know it did it existed but the model itself looked sick and that people see the resemblance was Yeah, I was very happy with that. So And especially when fix some dude Plays it. He did it quite very well with In my profile picture started. Yeah, he started popping in your profile picture and I gotta tell you I Gotta tell you I joined the hype train This is this is my version. I didn't have a Color that would match your hair But I thought the the Prusa mint the galaxy black, you know You get the sparkle. It's kind of hard to see the sparkle in this but but I jumped on the train and I have to say There's not Actually, right I actually painted this and printed it on one of the the bamboo X1 carbons so It this was 16 hours, it was fast and I blew it up I think this is a hundred and fifty percent of the original model But now I have my own I must set it on the shelves. So every video I I'm in you're gonna be in Or nice the model, but I'm super pumped how this came out though. I'm actually what the last print I have Actually just finished now the stand just well, let me get out of there you go. So the stand just finished And Yeah, I love this print I need to find Before the episode is done or at least when I tag this on on Twitter because I haven't shown this anywhere yet This is this is first So I'm gonna tag the actual maker and I totally forgot I apologize. I forgot that the makers Yes, there you go and I figured I figured you know you've seen this a hundred times now, right? But he has a stand and the stand just finished over here So after this after that, I'm gonna pop it on the stand. We're gonna get going But I love the galaxy black turned out good. Oh, yeah, and this is I think you got some of this, too I don't know about this color. This is the full limit matte white Okay, yeah, yeah So good. I love her for like a bone finish. That's really cool. Yeah, I think and it printed it really good It was super fast That those, you know, the X1 carbon really took Multicolor to a different level for a lot of people. There's no messing around you paint it You hit print and most of the time you get something pretty awesome out of it Then are you calling John a bonehead? Ah bonehead I Love it. So so the next thing I wanted to talk to you about of course Is this you just you just put a video out on this? I know No, it's no spoilers. No spoilers, right? No spoilers But can we talk about this? I know this this is just just got released by the time this video airs, right? Yes, if I think everything goes well because this is by far the toughest edit I've made I'm currently working on the video. All right, I've done the video, but this is the This is the rig and if it uses an big three tech board with only two drivers and The idea behind this is that you can put an exterior at the opposite ends and Let them do a talk of war against each other And see which exterior is the strongest and The reason why I'm doing this besides that it's just awesome And I think it's fun to see which extruder I'll perform which is to test out my own extruder I think this is a fun test to see Well, how does the extruder I designed to compare to the extruders on the market already? and also for the upcoming projects because I've got a An Optimus P13 printer, which is quite large. It has a build volume of 60 by 60 centimeters and 1 meter 10 high and that's for the upcoming larger projects with the rim and the guitar and I want the best extruder for that printers because it must Push a lot of filament through So, of course, this is a different setting than what extruders normally do because Well, extruders push filament and now they're pulling But it's a fun way to see which extruder is the strongest And I've got eight extruders. One of them is this proper extruder and Well several different ones and Also a couple of well-known ones for instance the E3D V6, the Hemera and the Revo Hemera XS. So that's the smallest extruder by the way. So and from Bontech, MicroSwiss, we have the drop effect And DICE extruder Pro. So we've got a couple of interesting extruders competing against each other And this rig is controlled by by a simple application that I've made in LabView Because well, it's it sounds easier than you would think To control two extruders simultaneously. I thought it would be easy just well Add an extra stepper and just a hit start But normally you have you select the extruder It's just what I've done what I've shown you in the the previous time that we've that we've talked That was about the rocker We have two extruders you can swap between them But normally you select a tool so you say t0 or t1 and then your printer goes through Well, whatever it has whatever firmware says how it has to swap between extruders Okay, and then all commands will be done with that extruder, but not both of them So fortunately Marlin has a feature called mixing extruders, and then you basically make a Virtual extruder, let's call it extruder 5 and so it's tool 5 and you and assign Those two extruders to that virtual extruder and it acts as one extruder And you only have to give a ratio So if you say it's a ratio a ratio of point five then both extruders Run well rotate as fast Equally as fast. That's cool But the difficulty is that each extruder has a different e-step value. Sure. So and within the software I made some calculations to make to Change the The e-step value to a ratio so both extruders if you say move 100 millimeters, then they do it both simultaneously Any opposite direction? So in your testing you have to get the e-steps for each extruder Anyway, and then and then what we're seeing here a picture of this. I kind of blew it up Um, this is kind of a tug of war I don't like I said no spoilers if you want to see what happens you have to watch the video But yeah, that's I see the little flag like what call it a flag or an arrow hanging in the center there And this is like a tug of war between Multiple extruders and and in the in the video you're going to tell us who won, right? Yeah, and we made it. We turned this into a um an event Sure, uh, it's a talk of extruder war 2022 maybe there will be a 2023 so therefore we put the year in there and the When we started, uh Well, we went all in we was Daniel and I Daniel my um companion and I Well, we were working on this and We at first we weren't that happy with the result how it looks. It was just sure a bit. Well meh and Okay, we went to to the store bought extra lights and everything and just made a complete full setup Uh, it's within the optimus p1 by the way. That's that's the stage. So it's like Glass plate with this thing in the center and there are lights spotlights blue spotlights on top and in the back And you can see it a bit in that picture But we have just slapped in a lot of lights and I found a white Canvas just used for for paintings sure and that's fitted Snuggly And I had an old beamer And we used the beamer to project on the the back so we can show the countdown and the splashes and everything And a beamer in the u.s. We call projector right same thing. Oh projector. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah I was thinking maybe you put a BMW behind it and no That's awesome beamer. Yeah projector. Yeah, you don't call it a beamer projector And um, yeah We needed to go all in for in order for this to uh to make this work And um, well, I'm it's it tough at it because I have to edit like a lot of Um, cheering from the audience. It's well, we are in a in an event So I have to make the audience react to what you see on on the screen and Daniel and I are inside of a 3d printed basket and that's that's a whole green screen stuff That's so good. But don't don't spoil too much. They have to watch it. They have to watch We'll put the video at a link in the description below um, and and i'm telling you The time you put into videos. I mean just all these extra thoughts that you're putting into these videos the time um You know, it's it's awesome and your your edits are always great. Your videos are all I'm super I'm super excited for this one. I hope um, I hope it gains a ton of more traction and uh, man, I I can't wait Um for everybody else to see, you know, see what happens in the video Like I said, we'll put the link in the description that way you can click after hot makes After hot makes go watch go watch his video. Um But what's what's cool is like, did you just did you just come up with this? It's like, you know, I'm gonna do a tug-of-war today. You know, like yeah Yeah, that was um, the idea is I don't know it just came spontaneously to mind and Uh, I went to a 3d meetup in sweden. That was in uh in march Okay, and I met E3d and bantek both were there And I already had that idea and I discussed it with them and they were like very enthusiastic about it Nice And I was okay. This is what we were going to we were going to make this happen Um, but yeah, it was kind of random. Most of my ideas are just like, um, Yeah, out of the blue. So it's so good. Um It's just such a cool idea and you know, um staphon and thomas Or tom they they always have some really awesome things staphon's videos are always like next level as well as far as all the testing He does and what I like about yours. These are so mechanical Um, I mean, I would have never thought of let's do a tug-of-war I mean, that's this genius and the fact that you're using literally the build plate of a printer because it's so big To film this all on And the gantry itself we use that as a the x-country as trust So we put on the lights on the x-country and it looks very very real It looks great. It looks great. Um, and then you know in this you were talking about Um, what do we have time wise? Okay, cool. Um in this you were talking about your your extruder And staphon took a really awesome picture. He uh a little while back. He he got it in. Um, this is an awesome picture of it Um, let's can we talk a little bit about this because you you made some cool videos But I want to know like what went into this. What are your thoughts of it like in person, you know Yeah, okay. Well, this um, I'm glad you mentioned this because what I often Forget is to explain the why behind um, just after that show so And that's what I've also seen with this extruder that Uh, I forgot to say the why and therefore I got a lot of questions about why um, but this is quite, um, it's it's not This thing wasn't meant to be an extruder. That's the funny thing about it Also, the the shape it the shape was different. It's uh, I'm quite happy that it's a heart shape So it looks like a um a steampunk heart Yeah, um, but I at first I didn't design it like that but eventually Well, it just turned out like this and I think because this is the final part of the 3d printer It looks like well a nice shape to be uh for a heart um, but well at first the the initial idea was that um, I wanted to know if timing belts would be capable of pushing filament Um, so that was the only thing that I explained Um, but this thing is also capable of pushing thin wire So what I want to achieve with this is to Finally get continuous fiber printing to the consumer 3d printer Um, and I think this is an interesting platform to do that with um, and Well, because I've designed this extruder. I have the the drawings as well so I can Um, modify it and tailor it to get this technique to work um, and that's why this extruder basically goes together With this one. This is a peristaltic pump And I've shown I've made a video. I think two months ago about fdm resin printing um, and that uses a peristaltic pump and Together with life here on this printer um with two uh two lasers two laser units Oh, wow And the idea is that this peristaltic pump will pump the resin through this nozzle and just like an fdm printer just Places down and cure it right and these this is for curing um, the technique itself isn't new Massive it as a similar system that Joel has made an interesting video with that and You've probably seen it with nph um But I want to combine the two and that's why this shape well, it fits quite well with this extruder in the middle yeah, um, and I got several Several comments about okay. Congratulations. So you managed to have The worst of both worlds combined on one printer. So the the other mess of resin Yeah, yeah, yeah Not dimensional accuracy of fdm But with the resin and and this thing the idea is to have the the fiber through here and Infuse that with the resin and That way have a continuous fiber infused resin print to make strong prints. Wow And just start experimenting with it. What the possibilities are So this would be the whole package. Well, two-thirds of the package um, because what I want to do in the upcoming projects is to find out what's Experimental ways of printing as strong as possible. So Maybe continuous fiber with certain types of resin Could be interesting, but I also want to try And instead of resin use pastes for instance dissolved polymers So you can dissolve abs with acetone and maybe use that with an infused fiber or only use the The dissolved polymers between the layers to see if that increases the strength cnc kitchen Made an interesting video about that quite recently um, so it will be a combination of three techniques The third is standard 3d printing. So paste printing continuous fiber printing and standard printing and see which combination of the three Gives interesting results and it doesn't need to be strength What also could be interesting is for For paste is to use ceramics Um, so if you have a 3d print and you want to make it heavier You can just use a base pump and use the ceramics as infill for instance. Yeah. Yeah And one I think yeah Or for food printing for instance If you have a a pancake printer Normally you have to syringe but you have to refill that syringe constantly And with the pre-static pump you can have a can on the side of your printer. Just fill it up with the Uh, the pancake stuff and let this thing pump but you can also refill it during the print so what I hope to achieve is have a a platform Which works with these three techniques and Just go experimenting. Uh, what what can we do today? What will happen if we put concrete in the conference of the print? For instance um And that's awesome That that's going to be awesome frankenstein of uh Uh, I don't even know like of a print when you when you get the first one like with everything in it at one time That's going to be awesome. Yeah And it's um, I think we were we were joking self aren't um And they they they do exist, but they are on an industrial scale um And what I see because Yeah, that's something. Yeah, it's mostly separate. But um, you have printers. There are printers. They uh, which have the uh continuous fiber printing um and dressing and also What I also try to achieve with this is to Instead of fibers, uh print copper wire. So Um, this is this is quite a long story. This wouldn't fit in this video But I'm also I I work at an electronics manufacturer and we do some research Are regarding 3d printed electronics And we work together with uh with philips. So for instance, okay, um, and what I've seen in the industry is that these techniques They they do exist, but on an industrial scale and these printers They are very expensive. So for a company. It's Especially like philips. It's not a problem to buy a printer. Which costs like 100 k um What the problem is that the company buys that printer to use it and not to experiment with the printer itself They use it as a tool and start experimenting with what the tool can do. Um, but what I think with Trying to get these techniques to a consumer printer is that the consumer itself will be capable of experimenting with the tool and um, I think that this this can lead to interesting results, which otherwise would take much longer So that's a bit of in in a nutshell the story behind this extruder No, it's gonna be super cool. I I uh, I cannot wait to see where that goes and um, I think in what was it your last video or one of your last videos you were talking you were playing and talking with a laser, right and um and I know cnc kitchen, uh, staphon just did like you said the video with the prints where he put like solvent Or I think it was one was like acetone. I think it was like some purple alcohol Or I think he tried both between each layer Um, and I know at mirf we were joking around because Joel broke his death race. There's so many times It was like probably 20 3d gloop And um, we were joking around about a printer that like put gloop between each layer like it was printing and then gloop and then printing and then gloop and um, I cannot remember if you were Around when we were joking about that, but I'm pretty sure staphon I've um, I've talked to, um uh Now from 3d gloop, uh Oh, um, okay now i'm gonna forget his name all of a sudden now to uh, yeah, I know who you're talking about I'll the sudden I just lost it I've talked to uh, andrew andrew from there you go, angel and um I've I've pitched this idea of the peristaltic pump and use 3d gloop in between the layers um, so maybe so maybe we were talking about it at Part of our alert, but we are we are going to do some nice on that subject. That'll be that'll be fun. I'm really looking forward to that Yeah I'm so curious if it the print Um, well, maybe it will even become stronger between the layers So it would be fun if the the z strength will will be higher than the x and y But who knows very possible the other thing that could happen is it could cure While it's printing the gloop could cure too fast and just just clog the heck out of your nozzle, right? um, theoretically, I mean if it was putting Gloop and filament in at the same time, maybe you're okay Um, if you did like staphon did and did a layer and then print into the layer and then print that might cure A little too quick and you might have some issues Yeah, but yeah failure is always an option and um, we are just going to figure it out Uh, it'll be glorious no matter what That's the idea. Yeah, yeah No, it's it's uh, I can't wait to see that this what you're working on now the the video Um, you just came out with a tug of war like I said check that out in the in the description because You you want to see it? You want to see the winner of that one? Um, john put a ton of time into that especially Uh, I I just yeah, you got to check it out to see it. Um But yeah, we have some what do we got here? We got we got about we got about 38 minutes in Um, we have some more time. So what what's next for what's next besides uh Okay, there are um two things What's next that you can talk about? Yeah um Okay, um, this is the plan for 2023 this um the plan it's Including this extruder um, we have a As part of the 2023 is what I just told but Well, once you have the technique you want to apply it, of course So I've got the well the very first attempt that kind of failed This is the uh Still the stuff and going from the first tries on here And so this was the the 3d printed rim um And I've designed this with generative design Um, but this wasn't strong enough this immediately failed And daniel and I uh, we have made a second Rim and it as we speak it's still out of that Mercedes and it it just holds the weight of the Mercedes Wow, but we want to take a step further. Yeah, it's quite insane It's like well the Mercedes the abs the anti blockage system was The fact but we have added abs but the um But it's it's so fun to see the the um Well, I have a plastic rim Under that under that Mercedes. So that's more beefy than this one I couldn't bring that one with me because it's I want to keep it under that Mercedes As long as possible to see what it will do over time Um, but we had some issues with inflating the tire. So we've used an inner tube Um, I got several comments saying that well, it's a very uh, dangerous to use air Um, I wasn't that worried and we've also tried and see at which point it actually failed and it was like Uh, five bars. I don't know what's that in psi, but it's more than twice the normal air pressure of a of a tire And we are still alive. So it wasn't that kind of a problem But we want to take it one step further and see if it would be possible to make an airless tire And that's what we want to do with the the Optimus P1 The thing is just large enough to print a rim together with an airless tire And we want to do that out of one material. So with just one nozzle one material And see if it would be possible to have uh, to make it rigid Yeah, the the rim, sorry the um, yeah the rim itself richer But what how do you call this? Is I got several comments about saying that Only this is the rim this circumference And this whole thing is called a wheel So in the Netherlands, we have a specific word for this Felch, um, but it seems like uh in America you don't have a specific word for this and call this a wheel So I was wondering how do you call a wheel without a tire? Uh, I call that a rim I'd call it a rim or a wheel. Yeah. Yeah, but I've noticed that like only this conference that this this is the rim What was that? I noticed that people use them interchangeably So like even though I think technically that's a rim And then you've got a tire and then a rim plus a tire is a wheel I've heard a lot of people refer to rims as wheels Yeah, I would use them interchangeably as well. It's a to me. That's a wheel a rim Uh, whatever if I get you rims for my car It looks like that, right? It doesn't have a tire. Yeah, you don't you aren't going to buy this separately. I reckon. Oh, yeah well I mean, maybe they make interchangeable ones, but no, I think um, I think you're right Yeah, I would I would call that a rim or a wheel. I mean, it's like, look, I got wheels or hey, I got new rims. You know what I mean um, yeah I couldn't comment on john speaking, but I was afraid that if I was saying I made three printed wheels Then people would assume that it was a tire around it and I would rather deliver them on the lever If you make the alice tires, then I can actually call it a wheel because well, there is a tire as well around it. Sure Um, so that's what we are going to try next year And that could be interesting because um, I think I can talk already about this with um I've talked to this about with andrew from 3d glue Okay to see if it would be what Can you do to make The the material soft so you have the rim itself must be rigid. The tire must be soft Okay um And I've seen a post on reddit And he was a guy who uses uh, he used ptg Um and dissolved well not dissolved he placed that in um in mek Okay, so methyl ethyl ketone. It looks a bit like acetone, but it's better solvent But it doesn't dissolve the ptg, but the mek will goes in between the molecules of the ptg and it will Um, it it starts to feel like a tpu. So it becomes soft. Interesting. So it's like a plasticizer for Um, but the problem with mek is that it leaches out quite fast. I've tried it here and In around a month everything was leached out. So it was back to the standard rigid Oh, okay So we are going to find out Maybe we can use the mek as a sort of transportation system for the plasticizer So we can make the the rim soft sure, um And that's something that we are going to um Not to investigate if that would be possible the plan b is to just use mek And have a soft rim for around a month And shoot their bios enough time for it to make a video But it would be nice if it can be um, yeah solution Um, so and then and then next you got to print your own tires. I mean, that's your yeah imagine this Because we want to do it with the ptg Yeah, um, you have Well, the natural color of ptg is transparent. Sure. So imagine an old Mercedes with 3d printed wheels and the tire itself with a transparent ptg and just Rgb the the heck out of it. Just like I did So I think Swag as it can be to have like yeah these four wheels that uh, so maybe you can use that as a um Uh an indicator if you go to left and right. So I have a orange feel like Your tires your tires are blinking on each side. Yeah, you step on the brakes and your tires light up red. Yeah. Yeah, yeah That would be so good Yeah, um, so I'm definitely looking forward to that and it's um, it's going to be quite tough, but um, ptg is easy to print an abs And we have already managed to print the rims out of abs. So oh nice. Hopefully ptg is going to work um and Eventually this idea which I just told about with the extruder continuous fiber printing past extruder and everything Um, hopefully those two ideas will um go together. We have made a whole uh bracket schematic of Uh, all the steps that we have to do And the last block is called epic And that's where both ideas come together And what's an interesting thing about resins is that there is a rigid resin and there's also flexible resin Right. Um, what if you combine the two then you get the properties in between um so What I We think this whole story about all the extruders and everything would be cool to add a a second pump A second resin pump So I have two Perceptic pumps next to each other and you can Play and modify the the the rig the rigidity ratio Of the print. Yeah, and that's where the mixing extruders comes in handy. So therefore, so cool This idea is like a start of how to use mixing extruders and then we can hopefully use um Call the continuous fiber and richie dressing for the rim itself And have the tire with flexible resins and the If everything works, I don't think I'll get that far, but it's nice to have a a um, you can dream and have a uh, a big goal um To also incorporate the three printed electronics and have the leds that we just talked about Embedded into the embedded in oh man. That was cool. Transparent resins That would be awesome. Have you seen those? That would be awesome. Um, do you have you seen those um leds that work with the wireless conductive pads? So they're like wireless leds, but when they get near like a it kind of looks like a Um, it's a field, right? And when they're in that field in that area, they actually light up Um, it would be sweet to have it. I mean because it's in a it's in a tire. It would be kind of tricky Yeah, maybe not that tricky, but maybe try to try to have the leds in there But if if your tire was within that field or you made that field in the rim or something Then you could do those leds wirelessly wherever you wanted Hmm. Yeah Random idea, I don't know. Um, yeah Well, we're almost uh Oh god, sorry Oh no, no problem. I was thinking well the the tire itself is also rotating. So maybe you can generate power for the leds This is oh, yeah, there you go. Kind of like a kinetic watch Um, exactly. There you go. Yeah, they can use kinetic power to power the leds in the tire Oh man, this we're going down this rabbit hole. This that'd be too much fun This is going to be yeah Then we just have to start somewhere just with this idea and maybe it fails after the third video And then we go like oh well that was fun and we just go out We know but uh, we just keep trying and um, we're not afraid of failing We will and also the community helps a lot with um bringing up ideas and um, so that's that's what I like about this community is the openness and Sharing of ideas and together we can create very interesting things Right. Well, you don't learn if you don't fail. So you got to fail. Yeah, you got to learn You must actually don't fail and you haven't tried hard enough, right? Well, I tell you what Let's uh, let's check out some of uh, I got a few hot makes today I don't have a ton but I have a few and I bet you there's definitely some failures in printing some of this stuff too Uh, ladies gentlemen, let's do some hot makes right the first one comes to us from neil 3d prints Um neil, this is a new little city released to patrons only four left to design until the whole map is Complete. So, uh, let me just blow this up. He's making First patrons, right? He's put put together a whole city here And it's all printed um, and it looks just Ton of work a ton of work has gone into this right Is this hand painted or is this multicolor print? I believe it's all uh printed multicolor Yeah, he said it was all printed but no mmu Several pieces. It's all yeah Wow, that's a lot of printing especially. Yeah, I like goggle. We got goggle right in the middle, you know Um little caravans. He's given all these buildings names. That's awesome monster trucks He's got boats in here and a little oh, that's it's such a cool idea and I tell you yeah, um A ton of printing and probably a lot of fun to play with This looks awesome. It's a lot of time. That is a lot of time They got in that. I just want to shrink down to a tiny size and explore the city. Yes. Yeah, yes You know, I bet these have 3d printed wheels Yeah It's just designed it's right there. I see them. We need to print a giant Scaled to the wheels Right Scaled to the wheels. I love it. I just all the cool stuff. It looks like he has um over here like an observatory Um, what was that word? What was that? Yeah. Yeah, I said observatory. I think I absorb I definitely botched that word pretty good If if my wife is watching she's adding it to the list of weird things I said um Long list It is a long list Hey, look, wait Prusa research is in there Right here. Yeah Um, but such just like all these posters that the longer you look at it the more you see Yeah, that's exactly right. Uh, there's a rocket back here. Yeah, space shuttle. That's cool Yeah, the space shuttle way up here. Oh, this is really cool. It's in the back right corner Oh, yeah Yeah, it's is that a castle Oh, it has a the pipe here. Yeah, the warp pipe in the flag and everything that's cool Does it get closer to it? Oh So, uh, check out if you guys want to play with this check out the patreon for neil 3d prints and Such a cool idea a lot of time a lot of time into that. It looks really deep too. I don't know if you notice that but there's like a um, yeah I thought maybe they were just like little panels like uh settlers of tanner or whatever it is, but no they're like standing up quite a bit Yeah, and and not only that but um either he has it on something to give that that effect Or i'm not sure if there's you know printed like that, but they're all puzzle pieces, right? So you can reconfigure your whole city Any way you want I bet the reason it's standing up why the pieces are so thick is probably for some of the mechanics for some of the Moving parts because if they were just flat ground pieces, you probably wouldn't have enough room to make those work That that's true I need more we need more. Um, all right. What's next here kit? New 3d printed action figures. These are pretty cool. We've been seeing a lot of these from kit There you go So that's that's pretty fun. He made some 3d printed action figures. He's done if I remember right kit has done a ton of these um And why not if you can 3d print and you can model just do it Yeah, it's awesome that you can model things like these that I'm so bad at modeling I'm used to design but Once I start modeling it's just like No Not at all what I had in mind I'm bad at both so there's that For me this would have been a stick figure. Um All right, what do we got light speed? Lightspeed was talking about his voron v2 Or v2.4 r2 with the stealth burner um This is a pretty sick print. It looks great. Um, have you played with voron yet? Um, no, I have my voron 0.1 package here that One of my one of my kind patreon supporters sent to me to play around with And I was making it myself way too difficult because I wanted to print all parts out of polycarbonate Um solid polycarbonate Yeah, polycarbonate and salt remelt it just like stefan did but right salt remelting polycarbonate is Not the easiest thing to do. So now the project itself is Still on the list It's there, um That I haven't done one either myself. Maybe earth. Maybe we'll see jason. Excuse me my eyes are water in here tonight um, maybe jason, uh, you know from ldo I'll have some kits again at murph. I might all right earth. I'm sorry. I might have to pick one up I missed it. I missed him on sunday at murph He had some kits hiding under his table I think and I was like I might snag one of these by the time I got around saying goodbye to everybody He was already gone. Um But uh, all right, what do we got next 3d print bunny man? I don't know if if you've seen much of her stuff I've seen this one Yeah, this is This is crazy and and I will show the final result in a second here But this is obviously, you know, checking out checking it out on uh prusa slicer um And and this this is pretty cool pretty cool if we jump into here There we go. Like at what point is it going too far with the bridging, you know Can you I don't know Um, I'm not sure if you can but this looks gorgeous That's an even crazier view um I don't even know what to say Yeah, I've seen a couple of things that she designed and it's uh, It's mind-blowing the the way it looks And the way it prints. I mean, it still has to print. Yeah How does it stick to the bed? How do we where's this like you have to bridge between something between structure? Where's the stroke? I don't this my brain doesn't understand this I think we need to go and find this and slice it and um, yeah, she's she's cool It's totally crazy and looks like on the 20s. Um, where are we at here last year? She put uh, she posted a guide. Oh, this was when she was doing her tinsagerty stuff Oh, yeah, sure. This is a pin tweet. Maybe I should look at that first But the tinsagerty stuff she did was really cool too. This is how it kind of all started Then like now every week it's something new You know to show with her and that's very cool It's it's crazy All right, what else we got one last thing. Oh, yeah, I had to show this so Oh, yeah This is that 3d printed related and uh, are we looking at the uh at the doors of the guy? The doors I think This is the new doors to john shop. He's just gonna be like I've seen doors like this before this is just so cool though. Yeah It it never gets old I've seen this before as well, but it's um always fun to see it again Oh, it's it's someone already printed this this uh mechanic I believe I believe I've seen this printed um Now I'm gonna I think we featured it here one on an episode. I mean this is Printed Some doors that somebody built in their house like this before but I don't know that it was printed Oh, maybe you're right Now I'm gonna have to dig that up We're gonna have to find out because I I think it would be really fun to print this especially like You know who do you know who needs to do this clock spring? Sven needs to jump in here And model this because this would be an amazing clock spring design. I could just see him doing this. Yeah Yeah, yeah, he would be the perfect guy for this. Yeah um I just love the motion. It's And the guy in the background he's just like all casual about it. He's just like I'll step back over here I love it Yeah, sorry hang on Yeah, there you go. There's a there's a new gif for everybody. Where's it gif gif gif. Don't even Well that was our hot makes for the night um, man I a lot of fun stuff and and um Let me just pull up. I want to make sure I'm not forgetting anything So what do we got what do we got coming up real quick some some announcements? Hey We have some announcements. Should we hit that bumper? We haven't done that one in a minute Let's do it. Sure. Hang on. Yeah, let's do it Okay, listen up everybody turn up your volumes announcement attention. We have an announcement Attention ship. We have an amount Yes, mom. Yeah, okay Mom i'm doing a thing. I'm doing a thing The mean love ma Oh, sorry Anyways, um, what do we got coming up? Uh, let's see next week. I think sam prentis maybe nick from polymaker will be on We're gonna be talking about irf. Um, we're doing another. Um, we're doing another Um, what are we calling them now? I'm trying to remember death racers I think is what we're calling them now and I'm we're trying to be careful with the death We're apparently that's getting tagged and flagged and all that happy stuff But death racers we're gonna have them again at irf. We're expecting like probably 20 or 30 of them to show up It's gonna be we had what's maybe seven. I think at mirf I can't remember but all of them broke. Uh, I'm pretty sure all of them went home broken It was maybe maybe not tripod tripod did not go home broken But uh, we we have a big one coming on sam's gonna join us. We're gonna talk about irf He's coming over and then we're gonna have a bunch of fun at irf. So we'll make sure we get some footage for that The tenth i'm not sure if we're going to have a show or not We may do like a substitute show straight from irf that weekend I'll we'll keep you posted on that. Um the 17th of october. We have mod bot the 24th We have waltimus prime, which is going to be awesome the 31st devon from make anything and then In november we have shane from saberbay Aaron from galactic armory. We have just some awesome guests coming up. So check out hot makes the next couple months um, but today We have john john. Thank you so much for being on with us, man Yeah, it was a pleasure being here, man. It was a nice talking to you again Yeah, for sure. I can't wait to see you in a couple weeks, man Yeah, we'll have three weeks less than three weeks Yeah, less than we'll have to have a a coke when you get here Yeah, and and maybe we'll take home less extra surprises from this one a little a little easier on the recovery But uh Before we go too far, um, let everybody know like one more time who you are what you do where we can find you Most importantly where we can find you. Um, i'm john from proper printing and i make youtube videos about my ideas experiments and inventions and whatever comes to mind I will showcase it and um, we will we won't often don't know from the start How it will end up and that's a part of the journey and part of the fun sometimes it goes right sometimes it fails and uh, that's I'm not afraid to show the failures It's a part of the process if you don't feel then you have if you don't feel then you haven't tried hard enough so that's basically the motto And um, yeah with that we will just stretch the boundaries of what's possible with 3d printing And um explore its possibilities So that's in a nutshell what I tried to do on on the channel What your videos are awesome. We can find you on what twitter instagram youtube All the things right? Yeah, yeah not on tiktok. I've tried a tiktok once but it got banned on tiktok It was dangerous activities banned on tiktok. Um real quick. I have something I have one more thing before we go for you You know what? Let me think about it. I'm going to play it right after the outro Just stay right there. Don't go anywhere. John. We'll be right back with you everybody else Thank you guys so much for being here every monday. We really appreciate the time um Man, thank you. We'll be here again next week And uh, yeah, hope you guys have a great week. We'll see you later. See you later everybody 106 miles to chicago. We got a full tank of gas half a pack of cigarettes It's dark and we're wearing sunglasses hit it