 explanation. Would any of the pastors like to take forward the question was from Exodus 411. This has been an explanation asked for the question by Avni, the verse by Avni. I'm sorry. Yes Pastor, I'll just share a few thoughts. Thank you Pastor. Okay, thank you Avni for this question. So in this question or the scripture that you have shared, it seems as if it is God who intentionally makes people dumb or deaf or blind, right? So that's how it comes to but again when we interpret scripture, we've learned that we have to interpret in light of other scripture. So when we consider the life of Jesus and when we consider passages in the New Testament, you know, one passage that I want to turn to is Hebrews 1 and verse 3 over there. I'll read it out for us. It says, who being the brightness of his glory and the experts image of his person and upholding all things by the word of his power when he had himself, he had by himself purged us in sat down at the right hand of the majesty on high. So here we are told that the Lord Jesus is the brightness of God's glory and he's also the express image of his person. Express image of his person is like saying, you know, exactly, exactly. It's like, you know, in the stamp you have the same seal, right? Like when you stamp it, the same image comes on your envelopes, papers. So Jesus is the same, you know, he's in the image of the Father and we know from the life of Jesus, you know, there are several passages that we see that he healed those who were sick, people who were mute, blind, people who were dumb, very clearly we know that that's what Jesus did. And so in what Jesus did, we understand who God is and God is also our healer. And we also know, like, you know, if you go back to Exodus where we see that, you know, he proclaimed that he's the God who heals us. So, you know, in that manner, when we consider the person of God, we are very clear that God is a healer, even though this passage seems like, you know, God is somebody who has inflicted sickness on people, that is not so. So, yes, those were some thoughts I wanted to share. Pastor, you could please take over. Thank you. Yeah, that's what Nancy said is right. So in our attempt to understand Scripture, you know, we look at Jesus Christ because he is the word embodied. He is, like Nancy said, the Hebrews one, he's a father fully revealed to us. So this is who God is. So God is the one who gives sight to the blind. God is the one who makes the dumb to speak. He makes the deaf to hear. He makes the maimed whole. This is what Jesus did. So if that is true, then the opposite cannot also be true. That means God cannot also be the one making the blind and the deaf and the song because then he would be self contradictory, you know, which we call schizophrenic, right? He's opposite to polar opposites in the same being cannot be that way. Right? So God's nature is Jehovah, Rafa, the Lord who heals the God who makes all things well. So then how do we understand these Old Testament Scriptures? So the underlying premises, all Scripture must be interpreted in the light of the rest of Scripture. And the centrality of in Scripture interpretation is the person of Christ. It has to be interpreted in the person of Jesus Christ himself. So when we want to go to these old, so there are many Old Testament passages that seemingly attribute to God acts of destruction, acts of evil, example, this one, or there are other passages in the Old Testament and some in the New Testament as well, where, you know, it says evil spirits from God came and troubled so and so. But we know there are no evil spirits in heaven and God is good. God is not the one who's sending evil, right? So we need to understand, how do we understand it? Well, what we then therefore say is this, that when the Scripture is saying things like evil spirits from God came or God made the, you know, like Exodus 411, it's, you know, the blind, the dumb, then God, Exodus 411, how do we understand it? One, God is creator of every human person. So regardless of what the physical condition of that person is, if he's blind, dumb, deaf, God is his creator. But we cannot attribute the problem, the specific problem as an act of God. Why? Because we see also in Romans chapter 8, you know, we read about this in verses 19 to 24, Romans 8 to 1924, where Paul explains to us that all of creation is in subjection to corruption, which is a deviation from God's original design. So God originally is creator. He set the process of procreation in place. So in that sense, he is the creator of all human beings. But the process of procreation itself has been corrupted, according to Romans 8 19 to 24, which means it has deviated from its original design because of the fall. And consequently, because of that process of decay, the deviation from God's original design, we have human beings who are born with these deformities. But is God responsible for the deformity? No. Is God creator of that person? Yes, in the sense because God is the one who set the whole process of procreation in place. He is the creator of every human person. But God is not directly responsible for the deformities that people are born with, or that they may have later on in life, because that has come in, as Romans 8 says, because of the bondage of corruption, that all of creation is subjective. So that's how we interpret these passages. The thing that we must keep in mind is that these problems that there are times when God does, you know, in judgment, God does use natural elements that we do see, but that's only the case of judgment. What I would refer to you, what I would refer you to in these chapter two, in our book on healing and deliverance, now maybe kind of address all of these questions. So if you just take time to just review that chapter two on our book on healing and deliverance, we list Exodus 411, as well as many other scriptures that seemingly attribute to God, you know, these kinds of things. So chapter two, in our book on healing and deliverance, addresses all of these. Abni, I hope that answers your question. Yes, yes, I think I did. Yes. We have another question by Kiran. She's, she's asked, can you explain about the old covenant, the new covenant, and the blood covenant also? Would the blood covenant happen in today's time? I open the question out again to the faculty. Faster, would you kindly be able to take the question? Sure, sure. So, yeah, so old covenant, new covenant. All right, so both the old covenant and the new covenant are blood covenants. So you remember the course we did on, I think it's our second year course on the cross, the covenants, the cross, the blood, right, we covered everything on the old covenant and the new covenant. Both these covenants are blood covenants. And the old covenant was established through Moses, makes this 24. And the new covenant, of course, is this was established through Jesus Christ, Matthew 26. So if you review this course notes, you will get everything about the old covenant, the new covenant. And then can blood covenant happen today? Now, blood covenant, covenant is any solemn promise that two parties make a promise or marriages of covenant. Can blood covenant, if two people want to a blood covenant, they can. There's not nobody's, but typically how communities in the old times established blood covenant was they would make an incision and then exchange blood. So two people want to do that, it's up to them. So that's a blood covenant. But there's no need for a new blood covenant between us and God. There's only one new covenant established through the blood of Jesus Christ. Is it okay? Kiran, I hope that answered your question for further review. I think you can go back to the year two course that you have done on covenants, that will help you greater for more reading. Alright, thank you. We have another question by Divya. She brings up Luke 22, 31 to 32. And I read that for us says Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you is weak. But I prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back strength in your brothers. The question is, what does this passage imply about Satan's schemes and asking permission to God to tempt his children? What does this pass? Yes, yes, please. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm jumping in because this is kind of a controversial passage. So I thought I'd just step in. Yeah. So couple of thoughts on this, these two verses. First of all, in verse 31, that word has asked, right? In the Greek, that word could mean demand, or it could also mean desired. I think the King James version, if I'm not mistaken, translates let me translate it, translates it as Satan has desired you. Look, look 22. I'm just looking this up here. I think it's the King James that says Satan has looked 2231 in the King James, that word is translated desired. So other translations, especially modern ones, they put it as demanded or asked for, you know, so just to keep that thought in mind that in verse 31, that word has asked, okay, the Greek word has asked for you could be translated as demanded for you, or has desired for you. Now the problem is that a whole aspect of theology has been built just on the meaning of that one word, you know, which is I think the basis of this courts of heaven teaching, which, you know, I don't agree with, but one of the key verses here is verse 31, you know, so Satan has went and so the implication is Satan went to God and God permission, and God said, okay, and so then he went and tempted Satan. I mean, Satan went and tempted Simon. That's the implication of it. Satan has asked, whom did he ask? Obviously has asked God, so the higher authority. So the implication of that understanding is Satan went and asked God for permission to attack Simon Peter. But remember that word could also be simply translated desired. So Satan should be desired to attack you. So now that's one thing. The second thing is remember, this is things happening before the cross. Because this passage along with what happened in Job chapter one is used as the basis for the courts of heaven teaching, you know, Satan went and asked God, haven't you seen Job? He's such a perfect man. Then, you know, God gives, you know, but you've, he says you've got a hedge of protection, God gives Satan permission to go and attack Joe. So the same idea is used from Exodus 20 to 31, if you interpret that word, verse the Greek word as has asked for, right? But remember that Greek word could also be interpreted simply as he has desired you for like the King James puts it. So, so therefore, Satan goes asks, and then he comes in attacks. But remember, this was also before the cross. So what did the cross do? The cross tells us very clearly that Satan was judged and sentenced. This is John chapter 16. I think verse eight, where Jesus says, you know, now is the ruler of this world, judged, right? John 16, eight. Okay. And John 16, eight and 11, sorry, eight and 11 John 16, eight and 11. So on the cross, what happened? Satan was judged. That means you can imagine that it's a legal word saying the courts were held and the verdict was announced. This man is this Satan is sentenced, meaning cases over. So if that is and that is true. So that means there's no more Satan has no more access to go back to God to ask for you and me, because look, it's already done your sentence, don't come back and ask for anything more, because the cases are closed, right? The work is done. So we are living after the cross. So let's say that prior to the cross, maybe, based on these two scriptures, Job chapter one and look 20 to 31, maybe Satan had to go and ask permission before he could attack a righteous person. If that was the process, that process definitely changed off the cross because after the cross sentence was done. Jesus sent in Satan, this court was dismissed because verdict announced. So we are no longer subject to this kind of process of Satan going and attack and getting permission from God in order to attack us. So that's one thing you need to keep in mind. Secondly, you know, like I said before, Satan is a finite being. So if he's going to get permission to attack, say, Person A, and then he, you know, there are let's say about 4 billion believers on or 3 billion believers on the earth. Before he can get to, you know, 3 billion, it's probably going to take many years because he has to go and keep getting permission. And if you extend this whole idea of what's coming out from this, he's a finite being. He's not an infinite being. He's not an omniscient being. So for him to get permission to attack and tempt every believer would simply mean some believers will never be tempted or attacked for a long, long, long time. But is that the case? No, every believer faces temptation, every believer faces satanic attacks every day. Right, we're all tempted, temptations come every day. So again, just from an experiential understanding, that process of Satan having to go to God to get permission to attack a believer is not practical, right? So my, my, my look at look 2231 32 simply this Jesus had revelation that Satan was planning this attack on the enemy. He desired, like as King James puts it, he desired, he desired his intent was I'm going to go after Peter. And but Jesus had intercepted that plan through his prayer and intercession. So that's how I would look at look 21, 2231 32. Is that okay? Yes, I just have a follow up to that. So now say it has become easier for Satan doesn't have to go ask for permission. But remember now Satan is a defeated enemy. He's actually a disarmed enemy. So when he's coming against the believer, he's actually coming with zero weapons. He's tripped of everything. So right now, Satan can only play mind games. Satan can only do gorilla tactics, he no longer has his weapons against. So what are his tactics? Intimidation, evil thoughts, basically thoughts and deceptions and lies are his main tactic. And in front of the believer, he's powerless because he's been disarmed. Colossians chapter two verse 14 and 15, Hebrews two 14, Jesus has destroyed him with the power of death. So really, after the cross, Satan is so much more less powerful than before. Okay. Yeah, just one more reference, Pastor, I just want to ask first Corinthians 1013, where it says no temptation has overtaken you, except such as his common to man, but God is faithful who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you're able. But with the temptation will also make the way of escape that you may be able to bear it. So here, when it says God will not allow you to be tempted. Why is that language is used? Is it like God is allowing the temptation? So in what sense, you know, so the basic question is in what sense does God allow our temptation? The answer is very simple, by letting you live on earth, right? The moment you're born on earth, from that moment on, see, God has allowed us to be on earth. And right now, the Bible tells us first on 519, the whole earth is in the lap of the wicked one. So very fact, God allowed you and me to be born on the earth. He's allowed us to be born in a very dark environment. So in that sense, God is allowing us to be tempted, right? But the point is, he's not going to let you go through it alone. He's already aided us by giving us his word and his spirit. Then Hebrews chapter two, Hebrews chapter one, the entire book of Hebrews, unveils to us a great high priest, to whom we can go to receive help, receive aid. So in what sense is God allowing us to be tempted, letting us live on the earth? You're all being tempted, we're in this realm of darkness. But he's not going to just sit back and do nothing. He's given us everything we need to overcome temptation. And so we engage with God to find a way of escape, right? So our prayer is, we must pray, do not lead us into temptation. So does that mean God is leading you to the devil? That's not the idea. The idea is, don't let me go down a path where I'm going to face this attack or temptation. So do not lead me to temptation. Do not allow me to go down this path. But deliver me from evil, or keep me from evil, right? So if God was the one who was going to take me to the devil, no. Or you know, look for Matthew four, and it says Jesus was led by the spirit into the wilderness to be tempted. It doesn't mean that he was saying, go, go, go, you know, he's going, he led him to this 40 days of seeking God. But in that seeking God, there was temptation going to happen, temptation was going to happen. Now was Jesus tempted at other times? Of course, because the Bible says he was in all points tempted like as we are, right? So Jesus facing temptation is not just God doing it. The fact is, throughout his life on earth, promise, you know, he was tempted in all points like as we are, right? So this whole, we can't base this whole theology is saying, you know, God is the one taking me into temptation. No, God, James one says, God does not tempt us with evil. Neither is he tempted by anyone like James one, I think it's worse 1314. So God has not tempt us and he that he cannot be tempted by evil. Okay, master. Thank you. It's much clear. Thank you. Thank you, pastor. Thank you, Divya. For that question. Would anybody else like to bring up any question? You could unmute and bring forth your questions, or even put it on the chat. Anything that you've learned through the last week, through the years before, or something that you're doing in your personal study, it's open for questions. Maybe if I had a couple of scriptures that we've looked into today, anything else? Yes, Rupa, unmute and bring us your question. Oh, I think she she logged off from the meeting. Hi, Rupa, back to you. Yes. Yes. Go ahead. Good morning, everyone. I have a small doubt, ma'am. I'm counseling one family for the past few days. They're going on a very painful journey that brother is suffering with a fourth stage lung cancer. But God is help has helped him to come accept Christ and come into his fold. But he has few fear fears saying that somebody has done something to me, some witchcraft or something like that. That is the reason I am like this so many fears. But when I pray, I don't feel anything like that. I'm trying to just comfort him and strengthen him is saying, once you come into the fold, and once you accept Christ, you are under the blood and unless you have something specific, you have done against God, you just repent and ask God forgiveness and God will deliver you from that. Is it is it enough for me to say that or is it anything else I have to do for him to be delivered from that fear from those fears? Okay, thank you. Thank you, Rupa. So the question Rupa posed was with someone who she's helping who's diagnosed with stage four cancer has fears that what he's going through is because of something he's done. So Rupa would like to know, is there anything more that she needs to do? Apart from what she's done of letting the person know that he's been redeemed by the curse, and by by the Lord and by by his blood? Is there anything else that she needs to do? I'm opening this up to the pastors, Pastor Nancy or Pastor Roshan? Yes. Thank you, Ruchi. Thank you, Rupa, for that question. And so happy to hear that you're counseling this person, and that he's accepted Christ as well. So I just like to add some thoughts. What you have told him is correct. And, but, you know, just to to kind of reaffirm what you've shared with them, a couple of scriptures with him, see numbers 2323, this passage, you know, even in the Old Testament, it says, there's no divination. But you know, God, that promise of his people that he's going to protect them from such evil was now in addition to that, in the New Testament, when we talk about the authority of the believer, Luke 10 19, that's another passage where Jesus said that, you know, I give you authority to trample on serpents and scorpions. And over all part of the enemy and nothing by any means shall hurt you. So once again, that that leads to the fact that we have the authority and since he has this fear that somebody has done something to me, you can say that we are victorious now that we are in Christ Jesus, we are victorious over the evil one. One more scripture that you could share would be like one John five 18, where you know, we are told that when we're walking with the Lord that the evil one cannot touch us. And in addition to this, as Pastor was sharing, Satan is a defeated four. He is disarmed. He is, you know, expelled. We know that he's already been defeated. So you could also just share that with him so that he understands that as a believer, we are victorious. Satan is defeated. We don't have to be afraid of the enemy. So just wanted to share these thoughts, Sister Rupa. And I hope it helps. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Nancy. I just wanted to share another verse that of one John five four, that whoever is born of God overcomes the world. So that again, I'm sure there's a lot more of scripture that that you can encourage him with. I'm opening it out to either pastor or pastor Roshan, if you would like to add anything more or bring up any more voices to help Rupa to share with this person. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So we'll go ahead with any other question. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Yes. Yes, Rupa. Thank you. Thank you for the question. We have another close to 10 to 12 minutes. Anybody would like to pose any further question? Okay, so there is bought about a question. I think it's a follow up of what Rupa has also asked. So if anyone does a witchcraft, will it not affect the believers, especially if the believer is unaware? Yes, I'm opening the question out. Would any of the faculty take up the question, please? Pastor, please go ahead. Yeah. Okay. Yes, Divya. So basically, so the answer to your question is yes, right? That a believer does not need to be afraid and witchcraft like props 26 and verse two says, a curse without a cause will not light or will not come upon a person. So that means, you know, somebody can try and curse a believer. But as long as there's no cause, that means the believer is not left door open or, you know, you know, as long as we are walking the way we should walk, this curse will not have an effect. But there are things that will open the door to these things. One is of course, fear. If a believer is living in fear, then fear is going to open the door that gives Satan an opportunity. And there could be other things like basically any kind of sin opens door continuous unconfessed and will open the door meaning it gives the door Satan an opportunity to, you know, come in. That's why fusions for I think it's verse 27. Paul writes, you know, don't give no place to the devil that was don't give him any foothold. So it's a believer's responsibility to keep all doors closed. And if I'm living the way I'm supposed to be living as a believer, none of these things will affect me and say they will not have any access. Right? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you pastor. John has a question. Would Satan have a right to accuse us in case if there are sins forgiven? He's brought an example. I committed a sin and ask forgiveness to God and I know that I'm forgiven. You know, during praying for deliverance from manifesting of demons can Satan accuse regarding the forgiving sins. I'm opening this out again, pastor. Can he do it? Or will he do it? The answer is yes. That's his job. That's what condemnation is condemnation wins to accuse to make us feel bad about even things that we are forgiven. So will he do it? Yeah, that's what he always does. Even though we are forgiven, he accuses us, he make condemns us, right? He makes us feel bad, even though God has already forgiven us. So that's where the bit. So will he do it? Will he do it? I mean, that's in the mind, he will put those accusing, condemning thoughts, even though, you know, we haven't already forgiven. But that's why he's a liar, right? He's a father of lies. He's actually lying to the believer. And how does the believer confront lies with the truth? The truth is the blood of Jesus Christ has cleansed me from all sin. So that's why we have to stand in the truth. And with the truth, the word of God reject the lies of the enemy, the lies of the enemy come in to us in the area of the mind, accusing us, condemning us. So in fact, anytime you're going to do anything, you're going to stand up to worship, stand up to pray, you're going to stand up to do something. The enemy is very faithful to do his job, which is to remind us of our past, our sins, our failures, in order to accuse and condemn us. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Joe. Do we have any more questions? And maybe the last five to seven minutes? Yes, Pastor Jean, I was I've been asking myself about how like a revelation can come to you when you're you're awake. So it's like you're just there. You see the thought maybe God telling you to do something. Or you like someone told me that God showed me a verse to read. Then I went and read. Then I asked myself now, maybe you hear a voice coming to you telling you that we're reading such and such verse. So I was wondering how it comes when you you're you're awake, you see like in, okay, something that you see like a thought coming, you see like do this. Okay, thank you. Maybe Pastor Ashish can maybe give me some more explanation. Thank you. Yes, Pastor. So I think yes, yes, go ahead. But yeah. So, but remember, we have just like in the natural, I'm in a good way to understand this is just like in the natural, right? We have eyes, we can see, we can hear and we can feel in the same way in our spirit, our human spirit inside, right? We can see, we can hear, we can feel. So where does the Holy Spirit speak to us? Romans 8 14, right? The spirit bears witness or he speaks. The spirit bears witness with our spirit. So the Holy Spirit speaks to us in our spirit. So that means he communicates to us in our spirit. So how does it how would he do it through our spirit faculties, three main things, what we see, what we hear, what we feel. So when he gives us revelation, it comes to us in our spirit. Sometimes throughout we see that means what your spirit sees, right? Now, you know, thanks Romans 8 16. Yeah, thanks. So, so you would see sometimes you can just maybe, you know, just remind you of scripture and words, you know, like this verse, a reference, or the words of that verse will come up, right? Or sometimes you may hear, but here means there's a hearing in the spirit is not always with sound, right? It can just be words coming up, or just the knowledge coming up. That means you're hearing. And when the knowledge of, you know, sometimes you're walking along and suddenly a verse just comes up the text of a verse or part of a verse comes up, you're hearing. Sometimes you can be impressed, feel the presence of God, and then you are reminded of a scripture. So that's one way of revelation, you can speak to you. But also revelation comes as you read the Bible. You know, so example, you open the Bible, you're reading, and certainly in your eyes are open, like you've been reading a passage, but you're seeing something you haven't seen before, and that's revelation. And that happens all the time, I think for all of us, when we open the Bible with scriptures, we read, and you begin to see things, you know, like, almost every day, hey, I never saw that before. Oh, so that's revelation. Holy Spirit is teaching you as you're reading the scriptures. So one is a spiritual side, which is Holy Spirit, bearing witness with our spirit. One is a practical side, as you're reading scripture, he's opening your eyes, enlightening your eyes to see things you haven't seen. So don't you have it? Yeah, okay, thank you. Thank you, sir. It has ripped me. Thank you. Thank you, Herbert. Charles, is, would this be a follow up question? If it is a fresh question, I'm requesting that you hold it on for next week. Is it a follow up question, Charles? It's, it's a testimony. It's a testimony towards the how the God speaks. I remember when I was in prison in 2007, and God spoke to me when I was asleep. And in the morning, at around 9 30, I was seated. He spoke to me when I was not asleep. Nobody could hear the voice because the spirit part that he put in us connects with the spirit of his and the way you are able to hear. He speaks to our spirit. He even spoke to me again when I was not asleep. He spoke to me. So the spirit part that is in us is able to hear the spirit of God. So as a past, she was talking about the spiritual part. It does it very, very well. Yes. And then when he's talked of the, of the, of the reading of the Word of God, he also speaks to us. He can even use another person to speak to us. So God is supernatural. He can use any format of speaking. What is required of us is to be sensitive that our spiritual antennae are sensitive that we are able to hear him. Thank you. Thank you, Charles. Thank you for that testimony. And on that note, I think we can, we end knowing that we keep our, our eyes, our ears, our senses open to what the spirit has to reveal to us through this day and through class. Thank you so much, everybody for joining in. May I kindly request one of the students to close with a word of prayer, please. Can I pray? Yes, Shirley Charles. Please go ahead. Father God, we thank you so much for your love. This is love. This is love explained in a format that human beings cannot understand. That again, fellow human beings are happening us so that we are able to live a life that pleases you, that we are able to get an explanation, that we are equipped to be able to stand the devil, that we will be able to stand the devil and be able to live a life that pleases you. Thank you so much for the revelations that you are continuing to give us and that you are here to give us, that we will be able to meet you when we are perfect, when we are mature, blameless, without sport, when you come for us. We thank you, we love you. There are even as when we are seated for our classes that Lord will be able to learn and understand them when Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you everybody. Have a blessed day at class. God bless. Thank you. See you again soon. Thank you.