 slaughterhouse because they don't want the animals to be killed and there was a bit of cruelty that happened in there where a man was stomping a baby calf yeah so they've locked himself down in the slaughter that was stomping the calf yeah and yeah so that obviously killed Bobby calf there spent dairy cows pigs because dairy cows get exploited and it killed a lot of the dairy cow where did you get where'd the old dairy calves go when they can't produce milk anymore to the meat place to the slaughterhouse yeah that's why what do you do with leave them in the paddock to die well they wouldn't be in the paddock if we weren't using them for their milk we wouldn't breed them into existence by the million and they wouldn't be they wouldn't exist basically for our use but we wouldn't be forcibly breed we forcibly breed them though we we stick our hand up there we give them injection of semen so that's not natural yeah natural but it is done yeah so we're breeding them into existence to use them for the milk and then we're killing him so that whole process doesn't have to happen no no no you wouldn't agree okay where they're all all the heifers up for more milk don't breathe baby powder for all your babies whose babies human babies yes where do you think that all what don't we use human milk or soy or soy based milk because there's not enough of it produced from the human humans for a lot of babies yeah a lot of women particularly in the country what about in the poor countries no that they can't afford baby formula but why do you think we're drinking milk from another animal where do you think all the Australians baby put milk baby milk powder goes to India Pakistan go to the supermarket with their names on going around scooping up all do you think it's justified to kill one animal to feed humans when we human beings can have some out something else to eat you know we've got other products we've got soy based formula that's a very good point are we going to go out and kill each other because animals kill other animals but should we kill does that mean does that make killing justified does that make it okay because animals do something weird or they're in the grass they don't wear clothes they go and have sex without permission they do all weird things in nature yeah but that's called rape isn't it and killing someone killing someone against their will is called murder and these animals just can't say hey don't do that to me you know that's ridiculous they can't they can't go and get like a real life okay what if it was your dog what if it was your dog that was getting put in a slaughter house would you be upset yeah but these animals aren't sick we're using them for their bodies so if the dog was gonna eat your dog would you be upset that I killed your dog and ate your dog no because you think your dog has moral value yeah you think the dog wants to live you know the dog experiences emotions happiness sadness doesn't want to be killed yeah so you know cows have intelligence emotions and why do they deserve to go to a slaughterhouse when we don't need to we don't need to for our house we don't breed them into existence to start with to use them human slavery is a moral yeah these are these animals are not doing this by choice we're enslaving them but do agree that animals have moral value they feel pain and suffer so do you think it's do you think it's justified that we put them in a slaughterhouse but when they don't want to go in there they don't want to die we don't ask them how do you know your dog doesn't want to die she doesn't how do you know I will do my best to keep her alive how do you know she doesn't want to die just your dog tell you does your dog does your dog tell you that the does your dog tell you that the dog doesn't want to die dog bacon would you eat dog bacon yeah well it's the same thing it's just a different animal how is it different well it's just culture that determines which animal we eat don't you think it's culture that determines which animals we eat in which animals we play with and careful because we care about animals in slaughterhouses come on you think it's so as slavery so as wars so as people killing other people just because it's if it's been going on for a long time doesn't mean it's okay okay you can agree with me that it's morally wrong to put animals in slaughterhouses you think it's justified so that's not a justification it's not what ethical thing happens in a slaughterhouse I've been in a slaughterhouse what happens in there that's moral or what happens in there that's humane a knife in a throat think about it think about it I don't even know why we're arguing a knife in a dog's throat is immoral a knife in a pig's throat is the same thing why you have to give me a reason and if why a dog means more than a pig exactly so in the pigs eyes in the pigs eyes and in the dogs eyes their life matters how much the same think about that think about why you think about that why that is why you think pigs matter less and cow and dogs matter more it's interesting thing to entertain you don't have an answer people from different races it's irrelevant the animals the animals are the same in the way they want to live that they suffer they feel pain they feel joy that's what matters think about it we agree