 That's Robert yeah, thanks Mario. This is an interesting comment, which I also feel the same way about it. This reflects the University situation in Germany and I guess European-wide we get not the same pay and titles for that reason and That is Let's say in line with our activities that we're doing. So like you said think I'm I've initiated the project open next and and we are coordinating at a tier Berlin, which is Also, and therefore my main responsibility as project management And I'm a research assistant or associate at the technical university Berlin has been so for five years and Today here. I'm presenting the about the project open next Our motors to transform collaborative product creation And I'm very happy to be here at the first Asia Summit that you invited us Mario Because you're part of the project open next Of course, it makes sense For us to come here Because of the PS lab and to also give a wider context and what we're doing with the PS lab right now Project and and and yet again Yeah, I want to mention that this project has received funding from the European Union's Horizon 2020 research and innovation program underground agreement number eight six nine and eight four So we are European funded for three years and we are right now in the middle of it So it's the way to go and the next one and a half years We definitely be very exciting and I want to say that that really My introduction is much shorter now because Eric Pan has said already so many things about open source hardware Just now in this great talk Eric if you're still listening, I think it's really nice How you brought in the the idea of the tax myth and how that leads to diversified devices Devices or higher diversity of devices By everyone for everyone and I think this is these ideas are way ahead of time I think a Shanzai model is really unique and in Europe. Let's say We we we like to think of ourselves sometimes as being ahead But I think that's we are we are also just at the beginning here of a great journey So let me introduce you a little bit what I mean by that. So I have a small agenda I want to talk not more than 10 minutes and maybe we can have a bit of a discussion Mario if it's okay and and and more deal with questions so I Feel that Eric gave all the background, but I mean the thing is that what open source hardware does Is of course just to reiterate it It is hardware for which a free ride of any use belongs to the general public and whose documentation is completely available And freely accessible on the internet. So this is from a definition of a German dean spec which is a quasi standard and Yeah, it's of course started a long time ago the open source movement and in the mid 2000s or early 2000s it really transitioned into hardware and With Arduino and other projects and I think you see studio actually being also heavily involved and Also from an early time and and now we see that even even cars and and other Objects, but yeah, I mean many things that people can also produce themselves Are being shared on the internet and and developed in a collaborative way a lot of times and this is this is new and this is exciting and We are researchers So why why are we? How did we get there? Why would we be looking at this because existing theory doesn't recover and This this was not really you can't really use it in this Sphere, yeah, so we need new theory in a way Yeah, I have a background in industrial engineering like you said Mario And I want to say a few things How we how we came to to make this project and what this project is about and because it's it's it's it's somewhat engineering driven But let's say maybe a new engineering Yeah, so open next focuses on encouraging and supporting small medium enterprises. This is very important To unleash the the potential of open hardware for engagement in collaborative open design of products and services together with hotlabs and mega spaces And and I think the idea of the tax myth that Eric mentioned is really strong And and and we're trying to bring this in with hotlabs and mega spaces particularly In actions in the open next project who work with companies or SMEs and take them into the open source development ecosystem Yeah so and and and and and this is Important because there is this this maker economy as well and and makers can can really bring in a lot of knowledge and But also they can activate together with the company consumers to work together with them And yeah, but but the open source development ecosystem is much wider And it also involves education and research especially and hopefully also public policy makers There's an exclamation mark by chance behind it Wake up and and we can also interest them and there are many other actors and but but what we are trying to do now is that There are really new collaborative design processes emerging that have emerged here and I emerging further So we're researching that and there are new business models that that have to be established and properly understood And and I think there's a lot already on the ground that's happening But this this this is something we're studying also And to to understand it really and document it There is a great need for for ICT infrastructure and especially open source tools and open source tool chain for hardware development I think is a great vision that The first Asia and and also the open tech series Of events could maybe be a great platform to to Also interact or not And I guess it's already doing that And yeah more of course prototyping and action, right? So so their products. They're not software Open hardware deals with products. So so prototyping and testing and and and and getting to To also understand what what what what kind of documentation do we need? What what are product success in the end? We want to have open source hardware products And and they come together with services a lot of time like I said earlier So this is the background And we have four simple project goals We want a wider adoption of open source hardware We want to enable hublabs to support companies, which is a very particular idea in this project But we also provide it solutions for open hardware development and last but not least we want to document all the journeys of Overall 18 SMEs by the end of the project PS lab or open tech is one of the companies involved So this is partly why we're here because of this great partnership, which I really thank you for it Mario, it's been working very well for the last one and a half years But we have also five other company partners And and they're all small medium enterprises And they're very different actually, yeah, and and some of them I Yeah, and I established some of them are less established So we're also dealing with startups that are focused on open hardware And I I want to say that who are really the target companies We we think SMEs are quite interesting because they have the flexibility and the interest A lot of times and also they they have a background where they they they actually can And understand The the needs better maybe of open hardware development Whereas corporates having troubles to integrate Open hardware development back into their structures. So so that's where we see like the loading in fruits And and I also want to point towards an article of last summer man from the factory who who who? Yeah, actually published this just On his blog a couple of weeks ago About activist companies, which I added to his own logo And he means social entrepreneurship the common good economy NGOs makes this the makes sense network which some of you may know or may not know But it's pretty interesting and many others and and and all these can be activated for open hardware development And this is a real mission Um, so we have different pilots and I just want to give to a pilot example in practice. So Just and and also tell you a bit about the ICT solutions just to give you A few samples of what we're doing in a project. So the first pilot example is the Fiction or future factory, which is being repainted as you see below and this is about starting an Open collaboration with the far in Amsterdam and fiction factory Who are now calling themselves open future factory? And and to make products or a product out of factory wood waste Yeah, so so the idea is to the start with open calls in in october To hire creative maker and they formed different Teams, yeah community team feedback team business teams and they're really involved in community consumers Makers and clients With these teams. Yeah, so so this is The screenshot is some Weeks ago that I made it or even months now. It's even there has been much more activity This is from the wiki factory page where anyone can join them And the second example is about co-creating models for the world's coolest sustainable and open source I'm quoting with sticker and another one in Copenhagen. Yeah So stickers last is made from sustainable materials and designed to be upcycled You see it in the photo And I will when I share the slides you can also press on it and get to a great article describing this better And there are three three plug-in slots that you can see on the end of the table And and they can hold a variety of desk accessories And now the idea of this collaborate open collaborations is with designers and producers These access accessories will be created to fit the plug-in slots. Yeah, so but And basically there's a professional team And they they want everyone lay people but also people who have a few interesting experiences to come in Yeah, it's not just for for producers and designers to join in because you can have your own desk and you can Put this at home in your own desk and you can also think a little bit So this is these are just two examples and I think mario maybe in the open tech summit soon I could talk about other examples These were just we have three industries one is consumer electronics one is eco-friendly mobility and one is What I just showed you built to order furniture so Like one of the goals is also to to create ICT infrastructure and open next and so we we have been doing so on a social product development platform with the factory which is another great partner of ours and In q120 and there was a great effort by the second partner involved here heavily leading this is the fraunhofer Ipk here in berlin and they've been making user stories of collaborative engineering needs for open hardware and now And they are developing four categories of platform features for interoperability documentation and guidelines community management so to find skills and and allocate them And to collaborative for collaborative production engineering. So these are very let's say A clear MVP that they've defined there And I guess it would justify another presentation to to give real details on that And but maybe we can just wait for for while the year is progressing And then we will have to open hardware tools also some of them as open soft software and others of these tools Party will also be implemented on the wiki hardware page and so Just to give an outlook So current dynamics really in our running six pilots in netherlands, danmark and germany are promising We have a graph database also in progress I want to mention from the front of our ipk together with the wiki media foundation that will connect open source hardware modules across different platforms And this will also be it's called the loge. Yeah l o s h it's on github under our project account And yes last but not least Yeah, I I I realized the time is over. So I thank you for your for your time and and listening to me And yeah, maybe we have still some time for one or two questions mario. I hope I didn't overstretch the time Okay, yes, so so thank you very much. It's very quite a lot of details And I see a question of harish harish. Would you like to ask your question? sure, um my question has got to do with the The the the fact that you mentioned din has got a standard for open source hardware Um, I'm actually very pleased to read that there. They actually did state it as a standard Do you know if that has been made available to iso or ietf so that it becomes a global standard as well? Thank you yeah, um great question So, uh, we we have been um or we're closely involved with the team I have been participating in it as well from the start and to make this deanspec and We there have been some attempts with the eye triple e but their open source Board was was somehow the oscom it was called and was Didn't was discontinued. I believe so Yeah, they're reorganizing and we're trying to to Keep in touch with them and and have already pitched it to them and this Let's say the initiator of the deanspec standard was also in in the open next project a martin heuer and and Yeah, I mean, I I think this would be really the logical next step Um, the standard is available open access so they could see it themselves But but I guess we have to push for it and we will Have you tried the ietf for that matter? No, maybe it's something looking forward looking towards About why I saw we find very complicated but yeah, no, I I mean I my apologies for suggesting I also that's a painful organization to deal with So I rather work with You know organizations that have got a clue even for that matter, you know w3c if if I don't know where the where the overlap will be But anything that is open That has their content and standards made publicly available for easy download Without having to pay for a standard. So I think anything like that would be very useful But then being part of the national body represented at iso. They may have different challenges so They may not be able to do that with a non to to to work with free standards bodies Yeah, yeah, no totally agree. Yeah, I think we look in that direction great great hint. Thanks. Yeah And I just want to Also connect here on foot because she has been in discussion with the eye triple e and I think on foot you're joining one of their Organizations, so maybe that's something to align to do you have some information? Yes, so I would just appointed last week to to be on the Sender associate for for open source Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I got the appointment last week I'm also looking forward to to work together with them in the future Yeah, this is great news. So actually then you you margin hoy and I would set up a call. I think a fairly fairly soon about this Great news. Sure I did not analysis here because just got is last week. Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, we definitely should connect Yeah, yeah, the good thing is we've already pitched it to them before this osco osco board was Dissolved. So so yeah, I think we We should be able to to pitch this again And and refer to it. Yeah Okay, excellent to see us having connections on many different levels So Robert, I think there are a lot of things and that we could talk about more And we will be having events in the upcoming months that we can share through our networks dedicated on some of the topics and Yeah, I would like to invite you also to our discussion room here in the event So if anyone has more questions and would connect maybe check out the discussion room for the next few minutes Or other other ways to contact you Yeah, actually, um, there's mainly my email account. I'm afraid But but really, um, um, you can also just call me on the phone. So the I on on on on every on our website and and I think also on the Slides, I will put my phone number. It's put through right to my mobile. So I prefer Let's say that that either write me an email or an and I set up a call or just call me on my phone Because I'm really happy to speak directly and make things concrete Okay, excellent. Oh, we can also use big blue button now. So thank you very much again And we appreciate that you shared insights to open next and what's going on in germany and the european union And how we're making connections around the world so Then we this session is over and I will head over to mr. Marco