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Hey man. It's your boy. He's CEO. I'm in the building. I got y'all something special in here right now Man, this guy right here a man. He really really don't need no introduction man You guys all know this guy man. He was the brother of mode three. He probably get this a lot Basically, man, this guy right here a man Definitely been making his way through a lot of the I seen him on a lot of different interviews, man Heard a lot of different music as well Just been really just tapping into what you know He brings to the table man and just loving seeing the movement because of the legacy that he continues to push forward You know what I'm saying a check it man co got is in the building man. What's up, baby? What do you do man? What's that's how intro you ain't had Listen I got these niggas in the head I'm an intro food Like they're gone, baby Yeah, the name cold guy because the first time I heard of you, right? Yeah, I was like co got it Is it your god here co got it like Okay, but why that name though, I really I ain't gonna explain too much because I got some shit I'm gonna do with it, but you know how three is mode three Then I got people as other old like little cold little whoa mother pot on the quo You know saying so the cold is always cold night. That's my little me my big brother So I used to be like cold to like on some some little boys. She So the guy came when I got a little older and my look my partners used to just comment It's just because I was doing my thing so niggas come and got it So I just really put this shit together just for a rap name because I ain't want to come out like under cool Even though that's kind of hard now, I'll be thinking about it, but I'll do that later You feel me, but yeah, the coat got it. Ain't no know your goddess. Yeah, I'll follow your god It up, but now that's on some other goddess shit, but you have anybody ever said that to you though Yeah, everybody was saying it. Okay. It's way deeper than they gotta be tapped in, you know I'm part Italian type shit. Just it'd be like that part Italian really something like You party You niggas ain't gonna fool me. I'm not doing this today. I'm not gonna do this This nigga do not look like no Italian. It's how many see my Italian you know, ain't that you've seen the shows when you see the family where So let me ask you so born and raised Dallas now, I'm born I'm born in McKinney But I'm raised in Dallas like since like I mean early elementary school or late elementary school And I move back like high school and shit. I mean my back and I cousin But look like To the now when I was probably like in fifth grade going on 6th grade and she and then I moved back when I was in high school And I stayed really in McKinney after that, you know, you move with your mom and dad or just my mom I've been with my mom all my life But like like I say when I was in like fifth grade my mom moved to Dallas and she then when three went to jail Like three kept going to jail So the last time he went to jail like it was like it's three your only brother. How many are that's my only brother on my Mama side. I got a little brother on my daddy side, but he's like same age my son He's like teen, you know, okay? Yeah, my daddy But I got a sister to then I got I got like to my damn my new Brothers on my brother daddy side too. You know, how many is it like how many is it? Yeah, brother daddy got he got a He got to he got three boys. You can't even remember all three girls. He got a daddy ain't done yet Who my yeah, he better be I Just When you was talking, you know, I just think back because I'm one of these guys the research a lot and when I look back at What you just said when you move when you was young you heard that people was saying mode three was not from Dallas He was from the Kenny. You remember that. I know you live Yeah, so so I mean what was the what was the deal that that that made people and how did he look at that? Because I know y'all would talk or whatnot. She's like, you know three like three really is who he is So like if he is like I just tell him about you know, we know what's up But like if everybody don't know is it's a problem to him even if he knows real like me like I really know like I've been in the elementary school. I went to Richland Elementary. You know, so I went to Liberty Middle School I went to Birkney high school. I went to him saying Chris McCullough Alternative school like I did all it he did all of their times teen So he used to be feeling some type of way. I don't because like in reality like Like most niggas, you know to power snoop. All the niggas ain't nobody from where they really be putting on for Like I like that I'm not from no doubt. I like that because bro three put on the novelist three put on Dallas in the map on the spotlight You know saying go back do your research. You know how you like research and shit for three came Everybody was booty shaking and swag rappers. You know, I'm saying three put Dallas map on Dallas on the map Three don't want to paint it that picture for Dallas because he bent the Dallas You know saying his family from that like if you want to go technically three born in Dallas three birth certificates Hospital and Richardson my mama stayed on spring valley when three was one or two if we're gonna be technical But there's lame, you know saying but his name niggas in the Dallas streets if he was never rapping They were no three but niggas hate and that's what they do But most of them niggas be hating me from somewhere else too, you know saying so it'd be like to me That ain't that serious But I know like how it is to a nigga who ain't got no sense like you know Because if you got common sense, bro, like it ain't bad where you from is really bad Where you putting on it like exactly the New York right now and I get some shit going for the next 20 years I'm putting on for whatever section in New York. I'm getting mine in like that's that's the boy shit But like, you know, because it's who support you is where are the sport coming from? That's King of Dallas. No, that's real They make it even worse. He in front of Alice in King of Dallas. Yeah Well at the end of the day he really was here. He was young y'all was young man Come on McKinney, how far the hell is it up street McKinney McKinney how about it to this way, bro? Man, I got how do you I'm 300 I got But I'm gonna ask you that because I've been going to McKinney for years like I work up that shit tell you I work in McKinney. I go through there. It's like not that far. Okay, so the reason why I'm tripping off of it Really don't matter. Yeah the other day it to me. It don't matter. Yeah, but like on the cool Like if you ain't asked me as you notice, I've been doing a lot of interviews that shit don't come up Cuz really it don't matter cuz I don't move all the way around this way And I'm me wherever I go before I got on camera before I was rapping before I had all this shit Go Gotti. Just tell them news. The earth is your turf Nick. No, I don't you know This gonna be the first time somebody that's the only reason I made it real clear Yeah, I was glad you asked that just to kill all it cuz I got I ain't ready my sleep I got McKinney in now that is telling on me. That's what made me who I am. You don't say I'll look at this shit different like Respect go ahead baby. So, um You're a razor three, right? Yeah growing up. How was he like a kid like as a kid growing up? Like with babies, he was probably like, you know a little better. He's older than you are younger Yeah, he's two years out of me, but he's like a baby Michael Jackson and shit, but like You know growing up he was cool. He funny He people person he really what you see when you see it like I'm talking about like the going live and the clowning and laughing and stuff That's what he was growing up like in the bad side like he a Gemini. So you get this out patch You know, I got both of them growing up like he he really was what he was though Like I remember when he was life switching when his mind switched and we was young as him like Before 9 and 10 like his mind was on it cuz it's like where it was raised That's what was around but like he was good like his heart good He's so good, you know, like he said I want interview like people just turn them to which I'll see Like behind the smoking mirrors that he read nigga. Were you always running behind? You know how little brother be trying to run behind and try to do everything Like the day before that I was in I flew the Cali trying to meet over his ass Flew back. You know saying like yeah, that's my nigga. You said until he changed. Do you know what changed him? Now I'll be I kind of know I kind of think about certain stuff But like I just I think now cuz I got kids it just be your environment Like the stuff that you need at a certain age Like, you know, when you're young and you're a baby you blind to a lot of shit I mean my bed you blind to a lot of stuff but once you get to like 9 and 10 for real like depending on where your environment like because he we've been thinking like that for a minute You started realizing different stuff and stuff that you wanted stuff that you ain't got or Monthly like three you see people you submissive three three little threes He's a bully three and I live with a little like I'm talking about six and seven days Mm-hmm. You know, it's about a time we 10 and 11 my big cousin's thinking like he thought a lot Because I'm big D and just 23 years like that's three. I would you know gang society see three. That's three It's where he get that from we was raised in the same house for like five years but uh No, the reason why I was asking you that because all right like I was not raising that environment or none like that But a lot of people who come on here I learned from other people and I always ask these questions But I've met some people who been raised in those type of environment and don't end up, you know Like that. Yeah, right. That's what I don't know Does it mean that because you're in that certain environment? That's how you gonna be now or not It's just be like what you want to be he wanted to be what he is like we used to argue back I used to be like, bro, that's three color games. That's it ain't cool You know they tell you gonna go gonna die go to jail. We used to argue about that as little kids like 10 and 8 and shit like real no cap. But like that's what he wanted to be So like what you see outside is what you want to be for real Like what you see on TV is what you want to be for real So if ain't nobody showing you nothing different like three was called a basketball three was smart I'll it but that ain't what he wanted to be You know saying and so it's like it depends on what these kids want to be and like what they showing That's why I try to cut you out because I'm on some different shit I know what it looked like with me but like that ain't what I used to want to be I I made myself go to school and do I let you because that's what I really wanted to be But that's back to environment like my mama don't know how to take me to go sign up for fast Well, my mama don't know how to give me any classes to finish early So when I try to do it and don't work and then going naturally I'm for the jump to what I know because it's easy That's what I raised seeing on my life but then okay, but another thing too because being a parent and your parent right and You ask all these questions because you think about your kids and as much as you say your mama didn't notice and so forth We're raising in technology. Did you have a phone? Did you have a computer? You could have researched? I was just telling somebody like man. I ain't we ain't getting over internet to like I ain't getting on Facebook No, it's a 2010 Like and it ain't nothing we glorified my mama like had us really if you ain't know us You really thought we was living like that my mama did a thing But like the basic shit like the basic stuff that the teenagers and like we still got our partner has to get on my space So I have message messages loaded up for three months because I ain't got this every day like right I ain't get my I'll pay my own phone, but it's not 15 like let me look stuff like that that the internet ain't even even one even though top Let me just be honest with you when your mama used out to go to work and you niggas didn't have no stepdad at the time y'all She told you sit your butt down and stay in the house Did you did you know which one which one of y'all went outside with it you are mode three three like that's Like this was I mean it was fun as we didn't know like we ain't look at it like that ain't here We said like it was weak weak active. I know that we read like McKinnon different like all my people been my people My life we all go way across town on bikes and we sell them cuz everybody know everybody When you had when they drug that little girl over there McKinnon, you didn't say nothing But you remember that though, I know that was that was big It was a little girl. I remember that just it pissed me off so bad You remember cuz you was over there y'all It was me over there, but it was one black police officer sitting there in the middle of them Why guy and he was looking and I mean I didn't think too much. I said damn. He ain't gonna say nothing Yeah, I'm talking about but anyway, let's get off of that. I just want to throw that loophole in there go ahead So um cuz y'all cuz mama's cuz okay, so daddy daddy was nowhere in the picture Yeah, my my brother daddy was around and my daddy like I see my daddy But it's like Because you know they always say you know like mama mama can talk to their face blue to boys But y'all still gonna do what y'all want to do anyway So it's like a lot of times mama's I'll be calling the dad is come get come get him Come get him because that's the only person that y'all be fairing is the father's we went through all it too Like getting the trouble off for the drop y'all for y'all daddy I'm right. Yeah, we went through all it too But like most of the time it was my mama most of the time it was just me my brother my mama and then like my mama like She working she working she hustling like it's where we get the hustle from cuz she hustling like I say it wasn't never like We wouldn't know niggas. We had partners who just was really out of there. We were never out of her We always had somewhere to go. We look good. We got something to eat She's got to go to work and do what she got to do and she used to tell us early like y'all them in the house They know it went no boyfriends. We had a step daddy. She like it was niggas come through here But they know what's up by the time they come in we bad as it ain't no what's up Then how come out of time cuz I remember in a Interview cuz he said she was always there for y'all you could always be there But I remember one time it said that mode. He was homeless at one time. Yeah. Yeah, I've seen that too Yes, he's like with that after he turned like 18 or something. No, it's about like 16 He was homeless when mama and you were there I've been running through there like when I tell you like we used to argue about like nigga this ain't you ain't that gangster Three been bad for a long time So he was 16 he was on the run because he had a want like he had a want but he violated probation All that he was supposed to go to jail So if you stay at home my mama being a mama gonna make you go to jail You got her being bagging shot at so her head is like I really being just she told me he said on the song It's like there's a real life that they really happen like that's any mama I'm prefer even good when he was talking about a homeless and shit like I sneak him out of bed But even when he got older like my mama started going through shit and he was homeless again like but there's life You know, that's the one was grown. How did that affect you though? See me like early like I said something about 16. I've been kind of like I'm kind of doing my thing I know how to get some money. I know how to work. So When my mama knew when I was in high school, like I said, I made myself in the school I my last year school three had just got out of jail and like Everything was sour because she paid for lawyers to get him out of jail So she had to move her daddy, but we're McKinney at the time She moved her daddy to go all in three move up, but he ended up doing his thing doing this girl That's what he'd be talking about. But me I'm from McKinney. I know my cousin stay here My partner stay right here. This nigga stay right here. This nigga stay right here, and I got my own money So I don't really need nothing but somewhere to sleep. So I made myself in school and that's I never had my And live with her like so it affected me but it like it really didn't affect me cuz Like it affected me like this some crazy shit. I remember for my mama got put out I had like probably two wrecks, but I'm in like 11 grade and she was like it's like 1100 to So we ain't got a move number. She ain't knowing I got this much money But she been stealing like, you know, she a mama. She taking our stuff and like I was on my selfish time like Yeah, not everybody for the move I'm for to be out here. I'm for to keep my money like not not for real I'm a child though. I'm not knowing that I really could have gave her that little honey We still live here. We all stay here. I say back like I know now like Now it ain't really faking me though. Let me ask you this when how Cuz I remember Mode three he was young. He was on that bus. He was on that bus with Pooka Leroy now When he was young when he was I rap I rap I rap this nigga was on that bus Where was you at during the time and you remember how did you look at that part of that his career? That was 20 that was 2010 when I told you like my mom moved back to McKinney. So I Was doing sure I don't know if you heard four in diamonds three cop three got four in diamonds He was like 17. He just turned 17. So he got charges of dope. So my mama moved back to McKinney So when he got out it was 2010 so when he got out of 2010 He had already been around Pooka Leroy. So once he got out and he line for the rap He started going with them that's when they went to beat you or so to me little brother at home going to school every day I ain't even Dallas business no more. It looked like it was for the pop But when you come home and you know you seeing what's really going on It was like, yeah, how do you think it didn't work out during that phase? I'm gonna hit phases, but why do you think that portion of his career? He didn't get to you know, basically get any kind of shine two things I say for one it was it was like it was supposed to happen like they're like I learned that shit You go through make you like Like if he would have did at that time, he wouldn't have been like Who would be dog mode three? You know saying like at the time he was on some team player Like it's that's the good horses. I'm a we came out. He was on team player time But like Mike Mike that was his brother So like it's only right that I push my brother and everybody not gonna see like this little nigga great Like it's me brother cousin or not. I get if I find the three we should put the bag on him and then little bro I'm gonna come back and get you you know saying but like I understand both sides But that's why I didn't work cuz like it was God time like this ain't for you This is for you to learn some shit. Yeah, but them niggas ain't they ain't know Like a lot of niggas didn't really know like I never heard him really rap during that time to be honest with you But it wasn't even back. Could he rap? Could he rap there? Was he rapping during that time rapping on my life like three been but they just didn't the mode three You see been like this is we was three on my son So we got video cameras are like we should be in church. He'd make the songs and we saying them be like real Nobody I heard about we should go on tour through church. I heard your mama was the one they could really blow my mama So I heard she could blow I heard y'all niggas Three daddy was like that's why I just like I don't know like be crazy these days to me Three daddy was supposed to be three in his time Where we is not not rap He that niggas like three did more than rap. He did more than saying he didn't more than he was just standing He was his presence. You don't say one really more about just one thing His daddy was dead my mama was dead and they on right. She did her talent show days She got her trophies. It's just like, you know about talent over there Yeah, it's just that they're molding and making them diamonds that they went through they personal so now they like three daddy Just like stop doing what he's doing to be a daddy Yeah, I paid out for him in long run like my mama saying she she stopped what she was doing They all was chasing the same shit. What can you remember that mode three said to you that kind of sticks with you? Just recently just like he said a lot of shit But just recently some I was telling somebody but he was like telling me like God trust somebody like who was talking just about how my mind is like I don't trust nobody And this before where he went through he's like, you got to trust something God trust something you said you said your mind was like that even before what happened What caused your mind to be like that what happened cuz? Everything why people are how they are is because something happened facts. What happened why you didn't trust nobody Like I said coming up you gonna have y'all Coming up coming up for real like I say my mama moved to Dallas when we was like when I was in like I was teen Living I won't say 10 or 11 But like she worked from 7 1 7 and I she do her she do what she posted do Like I'm way in a in the island by myself my brother's all I got like that's why he ain't just my brother Like I look at them a different but like that's all we got So he naturally got a stand-up and be who he is and then I'm just a little boy I heard just following the leaf or learning as I go So like everything I know it ain't from when nobody told me it'd be like what you saw It'd be from me telling you something thinking I'm really telling you something and then I'm telling you about him though You don't want to tell him now this nigga mad at me like and I learned just my friends just be like it's come from I'll tell my kids they come from me being happy little 13-year-old I don't know money when the show niggas my money and they still have my money like you know You learn over time like I don't fuck with niggas. I've been like this I've been had two three partners like let me ask you this man Do you really feel cuz you said mentally illness of me? You know, you know, let's talk about this for a second cuz I've been I asked rainwater the same thing like When I look at you guys I look at you and I look at the process of healing, you know Do you really feel like you've healed and you never get over now Of course, but do you feel like you've you've moved somewhat the needle poison healing understand what I'm saying I'm in the best best space. I mean ever been in my life right now But I ain't the healing part here now. I still be like it's different now though Yeah, I understand now for real like ended the healing and I don't think it ever here It's like an open wound on the stator But as far as the understanding with it like when do come I know what to do and how to do it Like I know that if I'm gonna cry for a little cry like I just go with the flow right now Yeah, let me not ask you that because I just feel like a lot of times with the way you guys move a lot of time We band-aid healing when it comes down to the music We do the arguing with everybody to getting into it That's all that stuff is just pretty much ways that you throwing a Band-aid over a sword that you're not letting heal But so you're basically trying to figure like I told rain like you argue with everybody from the whole time When he passed away all the way till now like so you don't really give your time yourself time to heal I'm being real not to cut you out But that's why I'm like pushing this guy speed like on there. I said like used to be afraid But I'm like that now. I don't know my own. Yeah. I'm like what I say I like this out. Let's get to live. I got my life back now. I'm letting everything go and make a room for some more And I'm coming right back around. I can't lie. I love the head space. I'm in right now I'm praying ten times a day. Devil ain't on me now. Like that's what I'm on. That's how I'm healing Yeah, I ain't I used to do everything you saying like for real up until like Five six months ago. Yeah, what happened after it like no, and that's my name My son like I've been like I don't know I always been trying to taste to be like I gotta tell you I always want to be something and not like just no No street nigga or no gangster like this is, you know, sir. She's just happy But like every time I'm down or every time I'm wrong I'll try to like consciously no matter how long it takes to like get back right and be better than I come back The next time but like long story short this time like you said the healing shit I wouldn't I wouldn't grieve it like for real like just everything happened as you sit me down Well, I had to agree but my son just came in me on some shit Like, you know, they want their dad isn't she like he was crying about me leaving my mama was like, you know Look at this. You're like this is what it's gonna look like if you never come back. How old are you kids? My my kids eight six, I gotta live my life. It'll be one next month. You're eight-year-old He knew he knew Moe. Yeah, yeah, so how did it affect him? He don't know and cry He don't know a new what's up. Like I just tell my mama that it affects them to where I don't know Yeah, because to me I would think that every time like what you're saying you walk out a door He he don't know if you're coming back because of that boom That's what my mama was telling me with my like I got my mother son's more outspoken. So like he'll tell me that I didn't know I don't go nowhere tonight. My other son is just like play, you know, he's like me Like he's gonna say nothing and play like he don't care like what about What about Moe three son And it's two daughters like like when you when you when you around them I know you you you trying to feel really bridge that gap You trying to be that that that guy for them kids, right? No, it's crazy cuz like God different like I don't know System kids been born all my kids all his kids if they ain't with me when like if they ain't with their Mamas and I got them trade edges with me for some reason if and if they not with me They were him and my son with three for some reasons So it's like God kind of prepared us like for them kids that it ain't nothing different for them Like them being in my house every weekend is nothing different for them. Like since they are doing this This is this shit been going like it's gonna be like this life forever Like it's just normal life for it ain't nothing nothing new or afforn to them I'm the thing is he just missed the presence of his daddy like if y'all know three traitors on them every day He outspoken too, but I don't feel no voice. I just I miss uncle like I came for no boy I let him know he know who his daddy is and that's what we do. We talk about shit We talking about no, it's all right But you know like how we were talking about healing and how you heal and you know that everybody healed differently and sometimes So as a mother, you know, how is your mother healing and then also when Because your healing might be different from hers. So when you go around her You know what I mean? It might set you back in your healing somewhat because of how she acts or what she does See with my mama For real That's what I'm saying. She don't want to let me know like this shit ain't gonna never stop It ain't no healing. I she lost her mama long time ago I ain't never really met my mama and she used to still be sad But how old was she when she lost her mom if she had to be old like I was born Oh mama died. I just I was a baby, you know, but like she still be sad She lost her sisters and brothers like why we was gold why she why we was wrong so this hour No, she she ain't gonna never hear but she she happy now like, you know, she's going through it We're going through it. It's it's it's an everyday process for real like some day She be on her phone and then I'm on my phone with her Someday she happy and I'm happy with her some day She in her phone and I really don't even want to be in no phone So I'm in you know, I ain't gonna be because it's different when you lose your mama your daddy Your sister your brother compared to losing that child a baby different I see it's it's it's it's different and then because she still have you yeah To me it'll make her even more protective of you than anything else because of that situation She is for sure and then you the baby boy you the baby boy I had to switch my mind like right, you know, cuz she she she mo I've spoken on it part two like I Say when my son did what he did she was in my ear like okay You see that like that's what it's gonna be if your ass don't come back in her You never come back like, you know, she's she's saying she say little shit Do you ever get tired of hearing it? No, you know, like my mama my mama like she got me right My mama the reason I am I am cuz my mama always knew like that. I was I was different from where we was it And my brother is like her and no my my brother his mama I mean his daddy that was mirrored like they was all the same people I'm in the house like my daddy do different but she always let me know that she always told me like the good part of that Like let me let me shift gears You gonna go. Let's let's go to To the fact of the day when I was sitting at the house when I hear mode three gets killed. Yeah Yeah, I was I was at all you are that a house So and this at 1155 in the morning, which was crazy to me But at the end of the day, you know, you you see this happen What do you think it's real when you first hear this? Yeah, cuz so you you feel like it's a real thing. Yeah, cuz like I don't know like 2017 Somebody called me just a random fan was like your brother did On Facebook, right? Like we chill on block like really live it drunk and everything like my heart dropped We're in Congress and they got shot my heart drop I don't hear this shit a hundred times since in between them time So every time your heart dropped. No, yeah, one time ever in my life before he died Somebody called me was like your brother got shot, but they were lying, right? But like in between him dying I don't have to call a lot of times and it didn't shake you like it's just like I don't know It's like damn. I tell them like bitch y'all must be playing but I knew like in my heart And what it is because he was on the phone with him when Like Cuz he didn't know if he was dead at the time when he Yeah, I don't know kind of kind of but that's you know, I don't really want to be doing all it I don't want to do too much of it But yeah, like he called me was like, you know, three guys shot a lot and like really Once he told me that I got that feeling out like bitch I line y'all line He was like, yeah, I'm on the phone right now. I can hear the people I Come on and like from dead my mind has been in days from then to like policies a month ago It was just our slow motion after that. Did you when when you said come on you went to the location where it happened? I went to the hospital into the hospital. Yeah, I went to the hospital, but uh Yeah, this is crazy. It was and so When you hear people, you know, cuz cuz people start making songs and all kind of craziness was going on. Yeah What did that do to you mentally cuz I just want to know how'd you feel about did you did you even have a Inklet of a thing to say I'm gonna do something about you like nah, this I'm gonna let all this go The thing with me is like I touch fire got her. I don't I ain't her for that I don't care what you think. I don't care what you think I know how I feel so like I Know why niggas be talking shit. I know why niggas be mad I know why niggas do all of that cuz y'all know why niggas do all it three was a monster for you You know what I'm saying like I understand like it ain't for me like don't get me wrong You know, you're gonna get mad and do your thing, but it ain't for me to be on it Yeah, like that ain't even important for real cuz if I am on it, why the fuck am I saying it? Never be nothing to talk about it never be nothing to talk about and be honest with you It's not gonna bring three back to be honest. Not even there. It's like rock I just I just think different like I told y'all used to argue with him about this. Oh, like you answer this question You think it's more real for me to go slide for my brother or take her as kids and raise them up to be millionaires That's really second one You know If you was a street nigga niggas killed you and you got kids what you and you was in heaven You can you can pick like everybody for the die or my kids gonna raise them be groaning and successful Little life that I was chasing But why people always end up doing all that crazy stuff sliding stuff like that is because you're getting caught in that moment of Anger because what these people tell them It's cuz it's cuz a mother fucker make you feel like you supposed to do that not knowing they not I don't know I've been through some shit out of my life. I know niggas sitting in there Not knowing they like bro if I do go slide if a nigga do go slide Now my brother kids need to get to curl my kids need to get to curl if I go to jail I need to be good to curl and the only person I'm gonna do that my mom. Yeah, she ain't pretty go slide For real so what you talking about like it's it depends on where you come from and what you come on a lot I come on some real niggas who really living like that like really doing it But they don't need made it to get old and the tea like man go on all these niggas ain't gonna Yo, that's gonna go to y'all just did 20 years. Anybody call me and that's the niggas I slip up like You know, that's different. But like, you know, I'm my brother's keeper for show And the funny thing a lot of people know that because we hear people say all that all the time But they still do crazy stuff. Why? It's it's it's society. It's come I gotta keep saying like it come from that's why I'm Something different. I'm really trying to put something different because I ain't trying to be like a preacher Who's know who's like, you know, I need to be preaching but I ain't living like what they preach it I ain't trying to do that. I'm just trying to get on some shit like what I'm saying All they crazy shit come from How I look like if a nigga if a nigga wasn't sliding in the Internet didn't care about who was sliding It wouldn't be talked about the fact that if you don't slide you ain't no gangsta Or you don't slide you a whole if you don't do this use a whole like niggas do that Niggas don't want to get beat up on camera They don't look like that niggas dying cuz they don't look like no cuz how I look at the end of the day That all boys down to how you looking you know saying but if you really own some games to time You slide back there if you really think alike if you the I'ma take care of the kids You can't do both you can't do all three for real You gotta you gotta do something and this one everybody come to play and that's why I say I don't fuck with niggas I don't trust niggas cuz like you know three one of them like if it was anybody else three head first out here, so it's like I See that like what I look like for real like my niggas my niggas like we gonna do whatever for each other I mean I don't care about it I went down New Orleans a few weeks ago cause the documentary that came out on so just leave them Yeah, and I why I wouldn't interview those guys I interviewed The son he come here and me and him real cool And they had some different things they felt about latem and what happened on their episode I just want to ask you how did you feel about your you guys's episode? Documentary and and and did you feel like it was everything you thought it would be? Now it ain't what I thought it was gonna be I'ma say that and then to I'ma say it was good for my mom and them I liked it and for three I'ma just say you know I it was cool But I fuck with it. It was cool. I won't watch it again though. That's it Were you able to see it? Before it actually came out to the air and just kind of knew it was gonna happen But like but it didn't show you the documentary before it came out. What did you not like about it? You got to say I just don't like how they They ain't really take care of who they put on there So they picked some of the wrong people to put on there They ain't picked the wrong people that just could have picked better people that makes him like You gonna tell a story like you know least you know at least make it make sense But like I don't know I don't want to be on there. Who did they leave off, huh? Who did who would you like to see on there? It ain't no it ain't a Pacific person all I'm saying is I don't know if y'all tapped into this to the most three story If y'all know how far the story go back. I'm saying this I'm cotton could have been on it It was a real life could have been on like it's just people like that That's like they really prophecy could have been on it. You know saying like They did right but it's just you know some people could have swapped out with some real people that could have gave y'all No, but it's like it's TV and I understand that's the thing like I ain't tripping for it I cuz I understand what they was on like but it's just me personally I ain't promoting like here you ever gonna do this cuz I know like I put my stamp on it I'm saying it's true. You know, so I'm just ain't gonna, you know Would you like to see a movie or something come out for mode three? Yeah, like really on my mom I'm trying to get through I'm going. I'm I know what to do now I'm I'll get all this shit done. Yeah, cuz niggas ain't gonna tell it right for real Yeah, but what and I gotta ask you this I going back to when mode three got killed that day and Look in on TV and said did basically did you guys did you What I'm saying turn the TVs off and all that TV I wasn't talking about it. How long like three months two months cuz you didn't want to deal with all that Yeah, yeah, and I could see that I just I just had to ask you that because I know already that's what I would have done Yeah, I would shut that whole down, but I wouldn't been now. You know how I am now I don't want to see none of that I was I was cuz I really live in my own world My thing but I wouldn't like tapped in when nobody was talking to Entertainment and I remember this woman came out. She was just talking brother. Like but like she talked to mode three all this crazy And I was tripping off that bruh That happened to me so like I Really was in the days for like you're like just like I don't know. It was just weird So I was just chasing shit like, you know what he's saying like what you you talking to what he's just saying right now No, because you have a lot of You have a lot of psychics who feel like I'm not Jamaican so Jamaica you Jamaican So yeah, that we me and you we here with her. She's you know, they I'm really There's a lot of different stuff to it But I don't I'm gonna be honest with you being a guy who believes in God I believe God's power was way more powerful than any of that I see I'll be telling my mom in it if you believe in God, you gotta believe in everything I believe in everything to go, but the Bible talk about all it man. You don't want to go there with me You better tell Let me be real with you the power of God is more powerful than anything else that's in there He's under siege it so it don't matter. So if you believe you believe in the devil I do but I believe I got power over the devil It doesn't matter I'm still It can matter but it has no power over me So it don't matter cuz I'm more powerful, right? So it's hard for you to come up against me with anything that's beneath me cuz I'm over it No, it's great as he that's in me than he is in the world But so I don't have to worry about that you right, but and don't I teach that way? It's a war It's really a war like it's been between who the devil and God like God already won So you got to know that part and I think Most Matter Death is only bad because The death is the death thing it's just people basically saying a whole we hurt We selfish cuz we want that person here, but death and we don't know the other side of death So if we don't know the other side of what we said back doing things to just try to compensate for our man I miss that person our flesh, right? But I'm speaking on the just the worst time at the Jamaican When I'm trying to get money I cannot think about no somebody can do this you can't But how I look on how I look on life and that you know the thing is that the devil He roams this earth Trying to see who he can devout we all succumbed to the devil at one point or in time Yeah, we we only human ain't nobody exam But at the same time everything that happens happens for a reason. That's how I live my life meaning that you know people Come to me and say How can there be a God if this child just got killed or died and I said okay, but that child got killed Made a mama change her life the mama was on drugs and this and that whatever You know what I mean? You don't know who changed your life because of him More past and rest in peace, but how many people probably changed their life because of what? So when people when people go or things happen to people I tell people don't be ashamed of anything you go through Because if you're still living your life is a testimony and you need to tell it to for other people to change You know what I mean, but that's what I make balls talk different y'all We can take it there and that's the whole game, but I told you on the phone Yeah, yeah, I know we can take it there. I like but at the end of the day We also I love hip-hop. So when I didn't tap in the mode to be honest with you until you know My brother kept calling me about this nigga, and I was like man Why you keep talking about the big-head nigga man? But then I started listening to the nigga come my brother he You gotta go listen to them like man good call me nigga come I'm hustling I'm hustling this though. I'm hustling Okay, and he's still just talking about different things that he was doing and when I really started to listen to him Man, it was different. I knew that he People powerful you special, but at the end of the day my game years after I'm not into rap Right, but I fell in love with his voice when he was singing in the kitchen, right cuz I love R&B Yeah, and when I heard him I was like he can I went out to him as like he can really sing Not no auto-tune. No, none like that. He can really sing and that's when I started listening to him Because I've been trying to I've been trying to get like well Let me ask you this because because people do try to they gonna compare you to him And you guys are but you guys yeah, but y'all know y'all said y'all style is different So how how tough is that and and how do you want to deal with being in a shadow like that? You know, that's that's why I've been living it I'm out like I don't used to getting out of that bitch now like especially gone. That's where I'm it I'm on it like I used to be against it cuz you know you fight for that correct I gotta be me. I'm tired on this before rap like so a lot of time rap come I know how to coast through it, but like now. I ain't really separating myself I'm just like doing this let you know who I am for real But I'm still in that shadow for the rest of my life my kids for to be in anybody around me in that shadow That's what we coming up under we pushing it. I seen you. I mean you you You say you went to the hospital I'm going back in now and when you went to the hospital Did you get to see more that day or did you yeah, I seen anything in there? You know, so you went in there Yeah, but like by the time 2020 was just an interesting year old like God work My man, did they have him covered up? I see them. I seen all of it You know, I seen it, but my mind wasn't just where you probably was it? Yeah Yeah, my mind was like, I was perfect. Wow got prepared. You used to see all of that Yeah, I mean I picture myself like who I was there What happened in your life for you to prepare for that 2020? I don't know I you know a lot of shit ain't for the internet, but like yeah, like this shit happened She happened you see shit you go through shit and you make it through there You know, like okay, then you go through something else Did you think he ain't gonna make it through you like, okay, you make it through something else You got this like it's just over time. It ain't really nothing particular. It's just on up I don't be tripping like I think I'm gonna be tripping for real like it that should be that hit you later I randomly walking down the street and you thinking today good Now you just can't control yourself because they're all of it Right yourself through all it rainwater said on this show that if he could talk to mode three now he would say Don't worry the niggas them all the niggas that was in that gang stuff ain't none of them niggas Trying to help nobody now. They ain't there no more They I would tell him them niggas fake. All right, do you agree with that now if I could talk to him right now? Yeah, that's what no, that's what he said talk to right now What I need to do like it'll be my question. I'll let I'll let shit But I'm actually did the people have you seen people coming to I don't care I don't know because I ain't looking for like that's my brother brother like all my life ain't that's not my brother You know you got brothers best gone five years. This is my brother all my life This is my brother like his partners is his partners. This is my brother You feel me but another nigga door don't even I don't worry about nothing I got my own partners. Like I said my circle is with me. They're rocking out with me And I'm writing out with three. So I don't be like I don't look for that Y'all didn't hang around the same people. Did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this is partners like like I mean when I'm telling you what I'm saying is Like I've been arguing him about if this happened you you again, bro This this is real life. No captain like what gay say your kid my baby today like type shit We was little kids and I'm telling my brother that can't shit ain't cool like me go to jail You're gonna die like you know saying nigga. We had this on he was hard headed He didn't not even there so to grow up and then you really die like we talked about this already We talked about these niggas ain't gonna da-da-da like I already seen this before you die I got like so it's like when you die. I'm not calling these niggas Cuz you already knew I'm being my own nigga like all my life. So where I Even feel weird cuz the nigga ain't there to be get the you know how she go and in and there to turn around Yeah, nigga was calling me was I ain't I ain't I ain't calling you for nothing But my people who I know that's gonna call me I call them all this shit. I don't be on brown I don't like this my brother. I know that's a rapper to y'all, but like I care about that I I see his kids my mama his ain't me my cousins these people really hurt by her and it like I got family They want to do that like I'm not chicken for no niggas or no partners. I promise me actually a question Because I have brothers and I know that a lot of times because I'm the younger one They don't listen to me at all for stuff But is there anybody in your family that could ever get through to him? Yeah, three listen to anybody who says alright here Jim now he might not say right then and there But yeah, he listen to you if you tell us some real shit like it's three ain't three not done three far from dumb He just a Gemini and like you got two sides and you can get stuck on one like for real That's what it be. But like he listen he listen for sure, but it's always it's just crazy So it ain't you ain't about what you tell them a fuck it like for real is about like a nigga died on 11 11 11 o'clock Like you can't shake that No, I couldn't have told you that I don't get in the car like 11 11 at 11 o'clock 20 20 I all these is numbers like real double on terms of type of number This is just how it's supposed to go nowadays if you ask me that's how I feel so a lot of things that I I'm listening to you Listen to what you're saying and I love the way how you analyze everything and That helps with healing as well because you know that there's a purpose for everything so when you You go back in your mind and you see just like how you said it prepared you to see him that day because the things that you had to Go through in 2020 so you know that everything that you go through. It's a purpose Thanks, that's really you might not have faced it yet because you know, we still living So you have a lot more stuff you gonna have to go through You know what I mean and there's so many people that we listen to that That's why we talk the way how we talk because honestly, there's a lot of kids who watch you to Listen to these shows and go through things I don't have nobody responsible in their life to tell them anything or nobody real in their life to tell them anything That's the reason why I always tell people come on here and tell your stories because you're gonna help somebody who you may never ever meet That's what I'm on to like that's why I said I've been trying to consciously tell myself when I get on camera I'm gonna make sure I say the right shit like regardless of what I'm on buying this camera like the kids watch I got kids so I know how much my kids watch YouTube ain't talking to no girl Talking to the kids and even young niggas who are who still kids for real like, you know black people Hey, you thinking 18 you wrong You ain't life for real like you know, so has there been anybody who came up to you and said something that was so impactful to you That it touched you Since you've lost your brother a lot of people like like like doesn't one thing that stands out the most I Can't think of one thing a lot like cuz I know the reason I say that cuz like every day I can say my inbox There's just I like it like your brother did this or I been through this or keep your head up I just I just respond to a nigga who came I am about as soon as I drop this on 2021 or like you gonna be hard like you just need to do this You just need to elevate and do that and do that and do this and like I ain't see it then But everything he said is what I kind of did and like he the only reason I seen because he jumped back in that bitch I told you I'm still fucking with you. I hope he watching I get that every day like that's they tell me shit every day I fuck with the three high three fans is for real the road the road came on here and He had something to it. Oh three. Yeah, the road really about three out of caution. That's my guy We was together the day but when he came on here He was talking about Why he don't say certain things in his music because he feels like those things will be things that will become him Right. That's power in its own. Do you believe in that and do you practice that? I've been practicing lately But I believe in I've been believing that I just been practicing it later Because he felt like that's why could we ask him why he sing about ice cream pain job and all the different songs And he just felt like that if he bring this wrong energy into the things that he's safe Right that that could cause him to fail and either his career in life It's in the Bible power in the tongue correct, but I'm asking him Yeah, we know you know the Bible Go ahead bro, it's a 50-50 But yeah, I'm constantly trying to like pick what I say like most of time because I'll be freestyling off the head So yeah, oh, you think you can freestyle Get on here bearish yourself trying to get on this mic boy Yeah, I was really on my level I can go off though. Yeah Yeah, so hang on do there and how was it being in the studio with mode 3? It depends on the day. Just give me some instances man Right you got you need to give me listen, I'm gonna stop this damn interview listen, bro You need to give me the information that I asked you about okay? How was it when you and mode 3? Went to the studio together. Give me some he hard like His fans deserve that from you right they know, but anyway, it's like he hard like it depends though like this my brother once again, so Yeah, me being in the studio ain't like oh look what we're gonna do today. This is what we've been doing all our life It's just normal to me. So anyway Like some days you be sleep some days in there going off screaming like what you see when he be like when he be rapping And he'd be screaming at the end going off. He'd be really mean as she would be in her lap You know let's you like that but like the studio is work with three three a three don't smoke drink No, they fuck on his own time. So three in the studio doing song. So you really in there just in damn I look at the radio want to scream like you know about it business when he worked because you you've been in the studio with a lot Of people and you being there like yourself. So you are really You you season when he come down to the studio Yeah, so you can see niggas and you know, you don't see something like that niggas not gonna make it like that niggas No, you don't see You know, I'm trying to think some more niggas, but but you know, it's an internet day and age where if your video Right and you say one bar the right thing you gonna go borrow and you pay Like for niggas suck, we might you know, I laugh but like but you know that this she can go Was like that and niggas was laughing and he ended up blowing up I'm trying Everybody knew that song was like Had to grow on you you hear it and it grows on you Just that I'll be on my pleasure. Yeah, that was hard. I see y'all younger though That's I gotta give it to you because I'm telling you right now. I'm listening at that. I'm like, what we doing next to the a yachty hard He just gotta you know, he just I think he got his own way to do it mean though like what you think hard and what somebody else think hard is two different things These days. I wouldn't have seen it. I'm like, hello niggas. I'm getting this and they can put my mother in I mean because I wouldn't have seen it. I ain't gonna lie to you But coach came them they'd say some dogs down there Got that nigga Yeah, yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie that nigga prove me wrong, but I never No, hell no, I need all them type of things I'm beyond what you listen to nigga like mode three at the time and you hear that nigga You is not going to get that nigga like that man You know I'm saying because that's not your mind said you like that ain't gonna be it Right because three no I'm talking about yachty versus the fact of how he was rapping Coming in the game if you a mode three fan. Oh, yeah, that's hard to relate to you player Like you say that's good, but I'm telling you a real hardcore nigga that want to see In that boogers Not gonna get that though How people would look at it like they're not gonna look at that like that's gonna be hard If you're coming from a I'm trying to make the hardest hit and I've been in the booth with some niggas Just just five. Yeah, it's like damn. We got work this nigga You know I'm saying but definitely blew my mind with the way he scaled and he was able to To really cross over that that's hard when you can cross over What I see though summer chain is that is That's the real deal. That's that is that the one of uh, it's three. That's hard man. So so um No, I was definitely interested in interviewing you because of the fact of You not only is he your brother, but I always mention him and show him love on here I gave cc strug Family awards. I try to go back because I wasn't in this when he was living, you know You've seen a lot of people come on the scene after he passed away off of his name a lot of times That wouldn't mean nigga. Don't even try to go there I was talking to everybody about everything because I'm old. I just nigga. What's up? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because when when covid hit I just had to do something different because it wasn't nobody coming in the store Yeah, I gotta come up. I got to come in this hole and turn up nigga for these niggas show Thank you, man, but no, I definitely I'll be I'll be tuned in. I'm staying tuned into your your music for sure You know what I'm saying your movement for sure Meeting you now. I ain't gonna never, you know, not rock with you. I'm a fine I was going with you. I might call you and say nigga. You ain't doing nothing Right, you know, let me go. You know, I told what's in there. I told nipsy hustle that Like nipsy, that's my no, but I know like we was at the that's my boy. That's what I'm on No, well, we was at the at the hotel together and I told him, nigga, you dead. It's over. That's what I'm all about This was in 2010 Yeah, I've been tapped in with nipsy since like 2012. But yeah, that's what I'm on the way nipsy moving Mixed with a couple more things. That's really what I'm on. That's my boy boy boy I know I would be studying how he do Did you ever go out there when did you ever meet it? No, it's crazy because uh I'll finish up to the new funeral because I used to go out there every week But I never went over there where he was it. Yeah, cuz like I wasn't there for that It's so uh, I used to tell myself I'm a go-to So when he died, I'm like damn like I'll forget to the funeral. I fuck with him I gotta ask you this man. There's so many rappers from Dolph, uh Pnb rock, uh All these different rappers that you see the the boys two of them boys up in LA One of them got stabbed shot in the neck or stab in the neck, uh all the stuff you see When is that Does that bring back up the when you see an audience get killed? Does that do does that make you reflect back to your brother? I tell you I'm raised in this shit That just made me come here like you how you saying don't come here That made me come here like yeah Is all it do because it make you be more cautious every nigga I see made me switch up what I thought I thought I knew Wow, right because I'm going home. I forgot there's money in this rap She I can get there without this tv in this rap But yeah, I'm going home for sure Do you like do you do you ever think you do you look what type of producer do you like when you deal with your music? I'm really all around. I got country songs Nigga come on man. Oh my mom. I got DJ Choe's coming here with that same old talk I'm a country singer. No nigga You have real country songs Do you have like an alter ego like him under a different name? Co got it. No, he talking about he talking about uh DJ Choe Yeah, cuz he's Norman. What I'd probably be cool if I was Like when I do when I do all my other shit like I pop Do you ride horses and stuff? When you say country Nigga think that you ride a horse from the country though. I'm raised around white people too So I don't hear what they listen to too Like I'm so you you you mess with Jason Alding. I don't know nothing. I don't mean I don't know Tim McGraw all I know is Luke come. I know Tim McGraw. I know Luke come Dirk Bentley. I don't know him. I know uh What's that Darius Ruckham the only black man? I don't know him. Oh, really? He the only brother. I know Luke comes and what's the When you say country nigga, we try to figure out if you really We went to jail nigga when you play that now this yeah, I forgot our music though. That's all our music That's all we put up on Michael Jackson Can you sing? Yeah, I can sing a little bit man. I'm not gonna do this Why you always ask some people can they sing like this? You know you try to put a nigga on spot I would tell you now. I don't really just sing like that. I don't sing like that. Yeah. I'm a damn rappel I raps run this whole I've been practicing by the next time I come back. I'm a same law Are you serious? I'm on everything I love. Okay. Nigga if you sing I'll sing. Nigga don't go with that old cap. Okay You heard what he just said. Nigga if you sing I'll sing. And he can sing. He can sing. Like a damn bird Nigga I'm waiting on you. Nigga don't try to play me in the same I'm a background singer. So so do you feel like I got to ask you this? when After because a lot of times what happens with music When somebody pass away, it's the hardest thing to get songs released Get songs cleared Get the business part straight. Yeah to try to deal with it dealing with it firsthand with you and your family Your mom and you how smooth do you feel that transition went for you guys and Or do you feel like things didn't Go the way you would have liked That shit really I don't know. We never did this. So it really I can tell my mom that lately It's it really just taught us how to really do what we need to do. Like it was a good thing to me Yeah, because when you don't know nothing you got to go through it and learn as you go Like yeah, you like teach you how to do what you really need to do I said be god be preparing you for shit, but like it was smooth It went smooth as hell to me and I don't really ask you about that because I think back I think back to you rain all y'all you and rain had issues during that time They were never about it wasn't ever about I don't know what it was about I'm just telling you I didn't get in the details But and I don't really want to even bring it up because I know already that y'all passed that now But I'm just saying When that happened because of what I look at being a person who's spiritual is I understand that's hurt there So I don't even look at it. You can try to figure out who right or wrong in the situation I just know that y'all love three Because because when when you hear stories like oh rain Set him up or something like that that which I I'll be like what you know really because I know that they Was together all the time Traveling together you see them at the radio station together when you heard stuff like that you automatically do you? How do you deal with that as well? I'll ask you that Like when they say they move the gun or or something crazy when I hear all that internet shit like I said I don't be on in this. I don't hear that. I see it But it don't mean did you hear that though? I heard everything about this nigga right here Oh, they gonna told you This is my You knew better than that, right? They always say that you know Like if something was to happen to you you get on the internet and see what niggas say You wouldn't want to watch this you're like and that's where I'm in with it. Like I don't I don't live through this I really don't I'm really I'm only doing this because I know what you got to do to be a rapper Yeah, because being in the music industry you got to be on the internet Let me tell you something man. I told uh soldier slim Junior a little soldier slim whatever you want to call him. He you know cutthroat He he's telling me about his daddy, you know his dad died and um Got killed and you got to understand She was like, you know talking to him about oh, yeah, you know, uh, he's like I gotta do this I'm like no you didn't have to nigga. No you could yeah Like he's like, yeah, but if I hadn't did it then it wouldn't carry the legacy But he's like I didn't want to do it at first because so many people was looking at me And you know I'm saying saying he trying to be like uh his daddy You know I'm saying but he went on and done it and it come with a lot He come with a lot of you got to realize what he going through the same thing where he His daddy passed people got all these different things these scenarios going on and he having to deal with that He going up though. I'll be that's my nigga right there. He called me. We algorithm he going up He's doing the right thing in this because like, you know, I like him Black people don't we don't we don't push that Legacies like white people do that. Like when they die, they son still on this like and then when he died I saw the other son on it and when he died the damn other son on it Yeah, great great great great granddad built this building like I know white people that say shit like that So you don't do that. You're trying to be oh Yeah after me trade days coming next and I'm gonna teach them to nigga your other people come next like That's all I know when they do it. They're not thinking about their kids and thinking about their grandkids But you because mode three didn't do this for no reason thanks That's why he's dead. That's that's the young thing is such little something that ain't do I left no reason Exactly, especially when you you're legend out here. Like why why the legacy ain't going on if you're like you're legend Like it's only right for real only that's why I say you got to be a shift in the narrative like Only black people to do that hate and that shit be like that nigga trying to like do this What he supposed to be doing like for real When was the first time you went in the club and it would and heard everybody singing his song Y'all when you and him was together and and what did you think about it because that was a good time? uh damn That was a good time niggas. I can't I don't remember the first time but I remember the best time like it was I'm trying to bring this whole up now. I think we were in Virginia. You can bring it up. I'm don't say I'm trying to bring this tempo up Yeah, uh We went in there. I don't know. We're in Virginia. I think so but all you heard was just Ah Why we walking out? You walk out you hear this, you know, G. She got a music going couldn't hear nothing. I couldn't see nothing. I used his phones and Wow, I think it's on three shit. I got two crooks. I don't got on stage in the front right trying to pull me back But there was a lot of shit. He walked through the crowd and everything they loved him He he damned the crowd served that night. Wow, three or three or super games I know it didn't get hard or something. Yeah, it was one of them shows That's hard man. So that's 2020. They had to make you feel good man Y'all because that show you that people in other states they love it. I was up there I think I was in Detroit. No, I was in Vegas trying to show him to uh He was living trying to show his music to uh, uh, he had redone somebody's song and it was slow It was he did redone like a r&b song and I was shown into my little sister robin She said who is that? I said just listen to this. Hey, let's check That was in about 2019-2018. So, you know, that's kind of I started liking, you know, the way he could change it over and switch it up You know, everybody can't switch it up. Can you switch up your styling? Like like really really get that I do all that Okay, then I'm sure gonna be waiting to watch and show I got it out there. You ain't tapped in I looked listen to some of I gotta listen some of your stuff early on when when mode three First passed away the first project you got versatile child and it's like I'll be remixing everybody's songs the country song on her Yeah, it's a it's a it's a turn up gangsta. She'd use the heart the hip hop you say All right, that shit on her your boss just a rap song. I got saying songs. I do all it I got a church song down there I got speed really on some church. If I ain't put no cuss words in what you think about this. Let me get lying else All the different All the different kinds of music that you be doing. What's your favorite? What's the favorite? What's your favorite kind? I'd say like my r&b Be my favorite for it All right, but like not like not like the singing to the ladies r&b. It'd be more or less like the When I be talking to myself I'll really be singing to myself talking myself through my shit that I've been going through and it'd be them type of song All right, right now. I think I got y'all got some kind of smooth criminal smooth. That's Michael Jackson You know I love Michael Jackson, you know took the niggas song. Yeah, but like did you do a justice? smooth criminal I can't even give it to you Because I tell myself I'm gonna drop it when I like when I when I really yeah When it's official like I'm him for real. I'm gonna drop them. Wow. So you love you like Michael I what's your top through artist of all time dead a lot any johnny all time Any gotta be three nigga. Hell no Including three die. I'm I think you gotta include three. Yo three out top, but you know, you oh Like no count not just because it's my brother. I swear to god That's why I wanted you to implement on why I swear to god like Bootsie just said like this is one of the best artists that we've never got took away I used to tell three like bitch I gotta beat now is Drake because you don't you don't have to sound with geisha You have to sound with boosie. These are our favorite I was growing up and Drake like because Kanye my favorite artist so back to the question Kanye my favorite artist all the time. Wow. Kanye my number one. Kanye You ain't even wearing a hoodie or like I see you Where y'all you You put in this whole look I'm I'm I'm early Kanye the college dropout that did the graduation Kanye I'm a yay fan too. I'm Kanye, but like I'm Kanye and then like Drake and then you know number three number three Now I ain't including three in this. You know what I'm saying, but uh Kanye Drake and gates right now Okay, but like our time I wouldn't even put Michael Jackson in it You said Kanye Drake and gates man. It's just leave it on right there. I'm in but Michael Jackson like I don't want to hear all that. I'm not gonna do that Because it's off all the time. It's dead or alive. It's any genre because I don't really I don't really listen to them I'm up. So as you trying to change up our rules on our show Because if you can't just ask All right, all right Time will be Michael Jackson three in Kanye, no water That's what you should have did at first They don't matter right now He says all time that is our question, right Can we do our show? I gotta ask you this man and Okay, you here because I had uh, uh, mama snoop on here. Yeah, I um, you've seen that interviews parts of it prior That matter of fact, this is when I was just watching y'all Let me ask you this man when when charlson dissed all of the mothers uh, um Charleston like this is all the mothers Including yours. Right. What did you what did you think about that? I don't matter first But like I wasn't tripping at the words my mama calm and got me over this Yeah, like I said on the last shit man. I I don't know what charleston cuz okay I know what he'd be doing like before he said this shit to my mama. I was a super thing. I ain't a lot I'm tapping. I'm laughing and everything but like Even after he said it to my mama, I understand what a nigga be doing like They don't mean I feel to be buddy buddy with him or none like that. We we can chop it up I'm gonna speak my mind, you know, it ain't that crucial for me to be like Bitch anything and I it ain't that crucial. Like this is what charleston know I do. He talk about literally everybody Yeah, like his mama get on there. He gonna talk about Like it's I was stood with him. So it's like that's internet. That's entertainment Like I know in person he wouldn't be on it You know what I'm saying? Like even if he was it's like, you know what I'm saying? It ain't that crucial Yeah, my mama don't be in there this shit neither. So like she thought that was funny Because he don't care about like, you know what people care about But yeah, that's what charleston heard from Yeah, and even when he talked about mode three Like even that like after bro, that's the thing like same with these hey, man, and these behavior I can show you video of charleston. Why is there mode three the baddest motherfucker in Dallas? You know what I'm saying? So when you back down and try to say some weird shit To a nigga who knows better like shut up. Like, you know, it's like that shit don't matter But you know people's intentions being so small They forgot he said three was the baddest motherfucking Dallas Just because he said something about the nigga dying and she's like, I don't even forget that like Even back to what I know. I know he the baddest motherfucking Dallas like so Ain't nothing nobody can tell me for real like you ain't talking about doing anything to me or my mom or my people I like talking to she you know, that's what the internet for but people in reality You could do a hundred good things but do one bad thing. That's all people see That's all they see you're absolutely right. So who would you like to work with? I gotta ask you all these damn questions people. I just told you shit Kanye. Oh the ones that you just named Yeah, uh Baby No females I got another song where Like and that whole hard to her her called twisted, but you know how she said got me twisted You must know You know, you got to work with a female because you say because you say you a sex symbol So So you gotta you gotta work with a female to bring that across I'm really tapping tapping You think jay-z gonna let you work with me? You ain't got to worry about that. You ain't working with her Jay jealous, right? It don't matter he not feel that you be all of the dance around his old lady now Beyoncé's Beyoncé. I gotta ask you about let's go back to mode three and talk about the factor I'm talking about Stop that When mode three did the song with boozey or kevin gates or whoever you work with t-rail Which one was he the most excited about like like when you for show And and and there was that when he talked to you about it. Give us that story We used to argue about booze harder booze and win with little kids That shit's just hard. Like, you know three used to do shit like When they get happy like and that's what you get coming out of the studio when he do that, you know, he happy So, how was it when he when he got through doing uh, everybody's the first one? Uh, by that time him a boozey was like, of course, but still the first one he did was uh, I got the news He was he was going crazy. Yeah, he was on his fans. She's still like he was always still a fan And when we go down there, it was it was exciting to go to boozey house How was it give me some detail man? I never know until you tell me You know in my point of view like I say three is three So he called the boozey house he in the studio boozey got a studio room and he just back to back dropping shit You know, they might be on live popping that shit But him and three was like they knew each other all they like a cabin laughing boozey smoking on the blunts He got his whole family running around a bitch He got the bowling alley all that nicks cutting your hurry we club downstairs just to me It was more or less like damn we had boozey house every time So like I'm walking around trying to see the kids and peek around and come and see what two damn and look He's doing just because I heard the shit out of my life. So I was always on fan shit Like I'll every time every time we meet rappers or when we used to go to the devil. I mean the empire parties I'm seeing people who I see on tv. So in my head I'm fan that it might look good. I ain't gonna show a nigga, but like I'll be focused on it like mob with it, uh, which one of these songs was the hardest everybody Which one was the hardest out of him and boozey? Uh, uh For apartments I'm just I'm just trying to ask me. I don't need to read. Yeah. Yeah Damn, what's that bitch? I got something. Oh, yo here. Oh, yo here. I forgot what the hell? God, but I think it's got hold your head him and three on that tape. They got what the bitch got But the whole car, I think it's called your head. That's the one you like the most That's the hardest that they do. Yeah. Yeah. That's the old boozey. Yeah. Yeah You like the old boozey the way he used to rap? Yeah, three about the old boozey He made a cover out of it. Yeah Three of the boozeymen on the old boozey shit. Yeah, yeah Okay, so how was it when he uh, when him and Kevin Gates, uh, when he landed that one with Kevin Gates? See that one was yeah, like because that's my that's probably my favorite rapper Like I fuck with Drake. He's top one. He's my number one, but Gates my nigga I listen to I fuck with How was the energy? Him and three was locked in like like did you go with him when he done that one? Yeah, I was there but like bro be on his professional shit and like it's certain niggas I don't be one of them like hey, I like be fanned out because he you know, he is who he is like, you know I just watched from a distance like that's what I'm telling you that my character is to watch from a distance I'm not the nigga who gonna be let me do you know what I'm saying that ain't me I'm gonna cut I'm in the video you pull up the video. You gonna see me back there where the bitch is at I'm a six summer for real like no kev come on I ain't stun they ain't kept and I'm just saying I get it But I'm trying to understand how the process of the music went for you when you seen him when they finished the product How was it like did you like it walking you through this shit in real time? I'm this I can't just say like oh that shit was cool because it's like it ain't it ain't that to me is I've been knowing Gates out my life. Let me see if Gates really is who he is after being her 20 minutes Gates really is who he is now I'm in my mode like I fuck with Gates, but right now I can't shake his hand and talk to him So I ain't even heard for that number. Boom. This is my brother brother So when he was wasn't nobody when he had five fans when he had 20 when he had a million when he had a thousand I'm in every steps about a time he at which I'll see it's not just like no Boom by a to me like I ain't even really trying to be up his ass number I'm over where it's popping that but it was good for them that chemistry was good like You know, I learned that I don't really learned that no matter how much money niggas got like this in her like niggas peaked And like niggas react to that and like it was that I know Gates one of them Like because I know how he acted with three. I get I get how Gates was Yeah, that's cool. You asked how three. I want to know how the music was and how you thought it would they done on that track How did you feel about that's what I said? But you took me another way you talking about Kevin Gates I'm cool with it in general like the music this song the broken love Yeah, like how did you how did you like that and how and just a procedure He sent me the verse and it was like bitch Gates finished his verse. Yeah, it was just like oh hell He did this gay shit. Like it's that's what I'm saying. It was that simple Like we talked about it probably five minute. Well, that bitch Gates did that you hear when he said Well, I'm pushing it wasn't that like I wasn't looking out of that. We didn't talk to you, right? We did that real quick on FaceTime Dennis on to bitch. We're here. We feel it like I don't know about That's what I'm telling like that's all it's just like we're gonna get our moment in Because we really come from this like thinking about this shit and then he saw like then we're back to something else We're gonna see down for the the airport tomorrow. You know, so we like it was three. It was he was really in this shit So it was like, I don't know. It was cool though When did he ever talk to I gotta ask this for you say this Don't say nothing. Just let me ask a whole question Little snoop mom Little snoop now you gonna get that problem a little snoop mama said a little snoop That mo three had told her that he meant uh Little snoop. Yeah, so I wanted to ask you about that because maybe you knew of him eating a little snoop Nah, he'll not three just tell me that shit like he did tell you that yeah when we was uh We moved to Dallas three was out he had first in the street So yeah, he had a lot of niggas spending night over there and that's my I'm a little brother So I used to be on little brother shit running town like But yeah, I need to go my mom on the way like I don't know who was in there But he told me yeah, he told me that way before snoop guy. Wow That's that's important a lot of people from that section at that time. No snoop too. So I believe But but the reason I ask about those questions is because those questions It's people people trying to get just a little piece of these people man Yeah And to know that that this really was you confirming that you know what she said, you know, you heard it as well So the fans they deserve to hear that. So am I tripping or am I I mean you understand why I'm asking this, right? We got I know you're a sex symbol niggas But I just want to make sure that we get that in because that's important if somebody You know, you got a fan out there that new little snoop Right and and love mo three for them to hear that that's crazy to me too Because I was tapped in the snoop before three told me that really I went three told me it was like damn for real Because like me I forgot me meek one of my dogs. Yeah, ain't a lot of my family It's all good like me one of my turn AC up niggas hot We got him in a view and now that nigga got hot and then coming out his clothes. He was sex symbol not in here on my nigga Turn AC up for that boy, man. The boy saying he either got hot I got the hair firms on that's all love But no, I just wanted I just have to ask that because those two guys were so dope And for them to know each other it's big, right? Right godspeed comes from offensive to video and shit. Who's shooting it? Uh prophecy, you know But yeah, that's the new single man, that's when I'm pushing I'm pushing these singles one One step at a time I'm really trying to change the narrative man get out the bullshit out the fake shit the snake shit Like y'all really see what be going on there. Don't be blind or what's going on It's just shit right take her your kids and get your life right for real. Wow How do you want your fans to up to you know, because No day's promise to any of us But um, how do you want your fans to always think about you or remember you as What legacy just for what you just said for my little speech I just made because like, you know, it's getting it's getting worse and worse and worse out here I just from the internet So, you know, they got to learn how to see past this shit Obviously these niggas be thinking be real be be just smoking mirrors a picture for the moment Niggas be kept out So then it's certain niggas who really be trying to do that losing their life because they think this was really going on And that ain't what's going on Did you and mo ever had that discussion about how he wanted ever be remembered? Oh, no, I ain't that nigga crazy, bro. Three's here. I mean I ain't gonna say this but he had three just crazy three really lives who he is But like he really thugging he really living like this because I remember asking somebody who came on this podcast before who Was always Intimese I'm gonna say that and they have a family. Yeah, and the way how I think I'm like The things that you do. Yeah Do you ever think about your family knowing that like Right, you know what I mean? Yeah, and to to them. They're like, well, no, I gotta do what I gotta do But you got a family that you're gonna leave You don't think about that when you're here. No, so I'm just wondering have that conversation ever came up with me and three Yeah Uh, just like how your mama say this stuff to you Two or three like bro go ahead and move but like what you saying? He really them and he was like, no, I can't move to everybody can move Why I can't like no, he could have you know, he could have did what I would have did I would have moved like a motherfucker. You know, so You know chase the dream really like you know what I'm saying But you know, that's that's where it's hard was just stand up niggas. So like He went for the lead by himself Like he he know like all the kids and all it's still like that's why I believe like Yeah, I really like Trader had like he's 17 like oh, yeah I'm bullshit. How does he know? He like four five. I think he's fine for real But yeah, he fit to be see his birthday coming up like two weeks But like now we ain't never had no talk like that. I know deep one I wouldn't really had too many deep talks. You know what I'm saying It was I tell him like literally like that move and he to give me his response Like now I can't do that until all y'all can move and then it'll be that conversation With royal leave with royal leave passed away. You seen him come out and do different things. Yeah Um, how was did you you have a relationship with royal leave as well? No, I don't remember a leap out of like once for real Did he ever confide in you about royal leave or say anything about no He cut it for him after he had passed away No, no, no, you know because he had like five kids six kids Got a lot of kids, you know, like I was saying one of those three partners is partners like this is my brother So like we wasn't partners. We was brothers that makes it, you know, I make a lot of that Now you got brothers who twins they be added together. Yeah, everything there wasn't me and three Like I see three at my mama house or three pull up on me in my house I pull up on him or his house His everyday life my everyday life wouldn't in the twine too much But uh, he ain't never talked to me about no royal leave because I ain't never really asked Like for real Yeah, so did it when you seen him bring that the song out about royal leave and it's birthday and stuff Did that surprise you or did you expect I don't care if this then i'm nigga So if you ride with you ride with you if you on his side, he on your side for John no matter what That's hold you on his side Yeah, no, so I like I said, man is um, hey man How can people get a hold to you if they looking for you if they want to try to link up with you? Oh, I need to get that together. Um, you don't know your damn Instagram Instagram, why is this? 23 uh, core co got it on facebook co got it on motherfucking youtube and all that I saw that why is what's that? Young and successful. Oh Young and successful I've seen a video with you sitting on I think y'all both sitting on the porch and your mom on the porch Yeah, what what video is that there? I left it to my mom Yeah, dad. That's a good. I like that song. You know, I'm old nigga. You don't want a nigga catch one. He's like, I like that Yeah, you know that now that was a good one right there. That's a good one right there Now like how was it making that making that video? See, I just thought about that Bam, you know, that video was cool, but I wouldn't I don't know. I just want to see y'all because that's a real family That's really really was like hey come outside and uh, you know and camera quick Because like at the time I wasn't on it Like I was on some other time if you see on the camera. I got my phone ringing You can tell you what really did really just into it like that. Yeah, he's just like, you know He just wanted to show like what y'all asking me for real like Okay, this my mom or this the brothers like, you know, he love you. I hear But the thing is that's the kind of stuff now that means way more than what it meant When y'all done it, right? That's the stuff I need like my mom passed like I said when I was young So I would have loved to have anything I don't have no pictures. I've got about two pictures. I have nothing. I have nothing So the one thing you can do is cherish the fact that you have something for a lot of something You know what I'm saying a whole lot of a whole lot of something. He left something He did so much work and so little time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's why I be kind of different though I was telling people that I you don't know people when somebody died. You just it is what it is I it ain't even it's like then they ain't dead for some time. Yeah, is he still pop across the town? I want to tell him what he got by five most album this nigga be For real that was work. I got about five. I'm ten now. I'm like what it was work Now I like it when pop pastor where he had a I know you were just you probably weren't born yet His nigga who had some music when he left Like for years like it still got some more out there right now, bro Yeah, you know, that's that mean they just work in there about three. Yeah, he's working on It's what I'm trying to do and and I like I said this this first interview I ain't gonna lie to you. Co got it. It was a lot about mode three because You know at the end of the day, that's the big elephant in the room. But But as we keep going yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we built under the legacy Boss talk one-on-one is growing. You already know that I already know. So as we continue up, nigga You're gonna be able to tell whatever story you want to eat. I'm gonna come on that hole. I'm gonna tell you about this nigga Come on No, but I'm saying you just basically can come and pop your pop You know certain niggas come in here and we got a council come in here. She Preachers coming here nigga ain't messy. We we deal with everybody You had the boss talk conversation man, thank you man It's different or what? Cause you did a lot of interviews, nigga. Let's get it on wax, nigga. Let's get it on wax Ain't no nigga did that You know, we had like a little smaller 15 minutes on the phone. Yeah, I can tell this I'm ready to do this. That's so funny. I knew it was gonna get here Everybody who come in people come in and I thought I was coming to talk about my music But it gotta go there break down and cry Yeah, I seen you going there you like I don't want to go there right now I seen the nigga I said pull the nigga out pull in the guy now Let the nigga make it I can see it. Ask and win and why they had to make you think like yeah, that's what I do to myself He'd be Up with the conversation I like to go in I do too because I think he heals a lot of people. Yeah, but I also think a lot of times you can come in and go out With some sense, right? You know, I'm talking about being this whole crying out that we had a whole crying show Nigga, we cried the whole show in this whole one day It was a lot that little girl was over and she couldn't have nothing so much so niggas say man But we want to come back and do another interview because man, she just yeah, she cried all night in this whole thing You know, I'm saying so that's why I don't I ain't gonna let that happen No, we feel have an interview in this hole too. You know, I'm saying shout out to mr. maker who'd be trying to make niggas cry up in this hole He's trying to keep it 100 make the niggas smile. You don't talk about Let me ask you a question after After after you lost more did you ever do counseling? No, I just went to counseling with my mama though on my birthday for the first time How was it? It was good. I mean my bad. I can't Do you feel like you had a breakthrough in there on the couch? Nigga, I ain't never been to counseling but you was laying down in there on the couch No, I like I'm my own counselor. Like that's why I say, you know how you ask the wins and why that's all they doing Is asking why or when you was here. Did you know that you're counseling this but it was hard No, it was hard because like you get to hurt everybody else. Like it was a room full of like really different people Like some girl some girl my age her husband has just died A old lady and her husband died 10 years ago. She just ain't got over it It's her first time speaking on those are good That's a good one where you can hear other people know that it's not good for that to hear everybody different perspectives And then you know, we was new so they make us top for it But like that's I just spoke my little piece just to see their feedback and like people It's certain people never been grieving for 20 years and got a damn back to a science It can tell you like, okay, do it like that. It's good. Would you go back? Yeah, yeah, I go but I would want to go like personal Like for real it had to be like a one-on-one And I know everybody Like what I want to talk about You can come talk to me Now I wouldn't do People call me man. I get a lot of calls, bro. I promise you It's it's a real place. I got some partners that They all even though we do whatever we do you got I always say like I said about twitch That isn't ain't twitch the one that killed itself like if a person had a right person that they can call at the right time It may save somebody's life. Yeah, so you see the balls talk e But there's a person inside of me man That's so dope when it comes down to my people that we talk about everything and she gets sick of it I might be on the phone all day Like with it like if you have five six niggas on there But he had like you in his in his highs. Yeah, and love now. I'm like my young uncle when he was young that's like And you always talking to me talk about god a lot a lot read a lot together Pray a lot together Pray in here pray before you got here when you sit in that seat pray that this whole interview was going to be dope Talk to god about co-goddy talk to god about That biggy beats we having to sit we having to sit down with some People that we hadn't even met before yeah, and we still we love everybody god. Please give us a good Conversation with these people. That's the way to be with me and my wife. That's what make us different And if niggas could get that part right there You have to yeah, it's on this song. I say i'm praying 10 times a day devil ain't no mean now Right well you want to go on and get this let me hit this I'm gonna come back and give so when is it when is your next project coming out? Uh, i'm gonna shoot the video on the 15th Like marlith king there. I think the day after so i'm gonna try to get it all You know doing real soon so it'll be dropping this this month for sure Okay, then you know we'd have a lot of people in here man, but like I say you you want that I want to say You know, thank you not only to you but to your mom, you know I know we're gonna link on something even more special I'm definitely want to show some kind of Love to you to your family because we've we've definitely talked about mode three a lot of days with rain and whoever else the role You know and it's it's like I've had to be a bridge for a lot of different things In the house with this show. I talk to everybody, bro. Yeah, so I have to pull Everybody to a place of sanity when it comes down to growing the city That's what I believe right and that's and they take a real you got to be you about you got to be on something different You got to be on your knees In order to do it. I'll tell you my knees for sure, but I know like I said, it's a white side Correct. Oh, no, it's a white side. I believe me. I'm talking about same guys as you talk Correct. But at the end of the day, like I just told you God is more powerful I'm on the God side. He more powerful than a locomotive more faster than a speed God is the biggest thing since the biggest thing ain't nothing bigger than God Right to me and I don't care what nobody say. Oh, he ended every I don't care any good If you've seen what I seen see you talked about all your dead Uh situations and everything that happened your life. I start telling you about mine You talked about the old g's and seeing this and I done seen it, bro So at the end of the day, I done lived it. So but I want you to tell your story So I sit back and ride with it, baby. No, I want to hear Everybody want to hear but I tell it's in the book Oh I just told you that don't tell my story You told me so that's why I'm doing this like, you know, because I don't know if you don't tell him Correct. Well, I think I think we got to show him. I think we got work to do I think we got to help these people man. That's why God put us in this room. So hey man, we love you, bro And and and I thank you for coming on the show. Um, you will be back. Yeah, I'm probably somewhere in the first in the second quarter Second water Right now this whole look like it read it down Say man, thank you so much, man It's been another great segment Don't try to do my Man, you know, I'm sick of this man. Oh, yeah