 On the subject of this before we got news of the ceasefire an individual named Deborah Messing and she really puts the mess and messing right folks. That's the best you get from me in terms of jokes anyways, she had this thread and This I mean I read it. It almost made my head explode. Please take three minutes and read through this carousel There is so much disinformation about Israel being spread and it is getting people hurt now It's ironic that she says this right here because as you're going to see The things that she says here. I don't know if she made it up. I don't know if she got this information from a particular source either way I mean verifiably false things here and yeah, so Leah says that this thread was so frustratingly terrible. It really is I didn't even know how to respond I think that if you saw my tweet about this, I just basically said Holy shit because how do you even respond to this this level of misinformation and incorrect? Things about the entire Arab world and the Arab area the Middle East and North Africa. I Don't I don't even know Look, we'll just read it. This honestly is baffling So there are videos from all over the world including the United States of crowds of pro-Palestinian protesters attacking beating kicking Using pipes as bombs against Jews. It's horrifying Attacks against Jews has increased 483 percent in the last 10 days 86 attacks Hamas is a terrorist organization whose sole purpose is to kill every Jew and destroy Israel Most people living in Israel one piece. So first and foremost, let's understand that there is this implication here That anyone who speaks out at the behest of Palestinians inherently their anti-Semitic They're the ones responsible for all of these hate crimes. Now. Is it the case that hate crimes against Jewish people has been up? Absolutely, and the left speaks out against that But what she's trying to do here is tie The activism and advocacy for Palestine directly to this so she's attributing culpability To Palestinian activists here, which is the first thing that rub me the the wrong way. She makes it seem as if People who support Palestine and are against the apartheid Endorse this and support this. That's absolutely not the case. I unequivocally condemn any and all violence and anti-Semitism, but you see what people like this do is they disingenuously link anti-Semitism to criticisms of the Israeli governments and that's such a it's such a Brazenly disingenuous tactic to shut down criticism. That's legitimate and valid of a right-wing government I mean imagine thinking that it was anti-American to criticize the American government or it was racist to criticize a majority Muslim country like Saudi Arabia or a majority Black country like Uganda. I mean imagine imagine having that logic. It doesn't make sense, right? Of course, you can criticize the policies of a country. So for her to say this it's it's disingenuous to say the least so what she says here is Three I pray for a for a two-state solution. I pray for the killing to stop first of all a two-state solution I Mean is this even does anyone actually think this is feasible at this point? Nobody's talking about a one-state solution. People have to start actually taking into account whether or not a one-state solution with equal rights to Palestinians is something that is Worth looking into you more. I mean I mean anyone who says oh, I support a two-state solution That's their way of saying look, I don't hate Palestinians. I support a two-state solution, but this is This is a lazy This is a lazy take care and part of the reason why she says this isn't just so she has some plausible deniability So she doesn't completely hate Palestinians or not care about them But also because she really wants there to be an ethno state with Netanyahu at the head of it So but that is impossible as long as Hamas is allowed to continue its campaign to destroy Israel Hamas must be defeated for the safety of everyone in the region for the safety of Jews every everywhere. So again, there's an underlying assumption here All this could end if Hamas stopped. They're the ones who are the aggressors here. First of all I don't think she knows about this inconvenient fact that Hamas was emboldened by Israel second of all Hamas isn't the occupier here you can condemn what Hamas does and Say that the rockets that they fire They absolutely lead to Palestinians getting killed because Israel always uses that as a justification to bomb Gaza but Who's the occupier in this instance? Yeah, Hamas asked for a ceasefire since last week as Tara pointed out and they didn't get that because It comes down to what Israel wants Okay, moving on to point number four. It hasn't gotten crazy yet I know that you're you're thinking this is just standard pro-Israel rhetoric and anti-Palestinian Shit that we always see no, no, no, it's gonna get worse get informed. That is very ironic coming from her Share it widely disinformation is gas on the fire of anti-Semitism And it is everyone's responsibility not to amplify disinformation on social media It hurts if you are an ally, please act like an ally. We need you. Oh my god We're gonna get to the disinformation that she is Sharing because she is going to share these images here. I don't know if she made these images herself I don't know if she got them from a particular website Let's just read them because holy shit. These are these are fucking wild. They are wild I read online that Israelis are ethnically cleansing Palestinians Okay, so that's myth number one that she's trying to debunk stop taking everything you read online for face value Okay, Palestinians face many challenges and inequalities But are not being ethnically cleansed to say that this is an understatement It's an understatement To minimize everything that's going on and reduce it down to oh well they face many challenges This is literally ethnic cleanse cleansing apologia. That's what she's doing. She's minimizing ethnic cleansing And I don't know if she is dumb or disingenuous or a combination of both either way It's a distinction without a difference and I actually agree with agree with the premise that misinformation is a problem, but She's one of the individuals who's spreading it However Jews have been ethnically cleansed from the rest of the Middle East Okay, so she's shifting Victimization here actually contrary to popular belief. It isn't the Palestinians. It's Really the Jewish people here who are victims now Nobody on the left would deny victimization of Jewish people Jews have suffered great atrocities But what she's very clearly trying to do is change the entire conversation This one is by far the most Weird and bizarre comic if we want to call it a comic But I heard that Israel is an empire that colonized Arab land Look at this response here Empires require a motherland A place where the Empire seeds the goods they steal and where they bring the culture and language to oppress their colonial subject Like Britain and America or South Africa and British plus Dutch Israel is only 0.03 percent of the Middle East and the only Jewish state in the world There are 57 Arab and Muslim countries in the Middle East that are part of the Arab Empire folks Okay Let's let's look at the entire Middle East and North Africa region the MENA region Ask yourself, where did she get this number from because the last I checked There's like 22. Where did she get 57 think of the logic here because there's so many Arab and Muslim countries in one area that makes them an empire a bunch of countries with their own Sovereign government governments and territories that actually constitutes an empire. I Mean, this is the dumbest shit I've seen a liberal say in a very very long time. Yeah, Thorben. That's a good point Is she including all of Africa here because I don't I don't know where she's getting This number from there are not 57 Arab and Muslim countries in the Middle East and North Africa, I don't believe that Israel isn't a colonial empire. I've read so much about it from Instagram I mean think of how condescending this is as if all of the people who are concerned with Palestinian human rights They just get their news from Instagram or Facebook. We're basically like conservative boomers We see these memes online and that's how we educate ourselves it's not like there is a robust history of literature and news and videos that we can watch with our eyes of Palestinians getting bombed. I mean as Benjamin Dixon was interviewing a woman from Gaza You can hear a rocket going off around her. I'm in my house and I'm ready to be bombed at any second like literally any second and That's saying in our house makes it any less risky Like we really don't know where they're going like it's all indiscriminate. They can like hit our house any any second I love how there's this implication that we're uninformed because we get our news from Instagram Which is not true when she's the one who's saying there are 57 Arab countries in the Middle East What? So I don't know how much more of this idiocy I can take Because almost all of this is wrong and honestly like if you were to report this for misinformation I don't necessarily think you would be unreasonable because there are things in here that are just factually incorrect Why do so? Why do so many people spread these lies online then? See you just educated me with all this bogus information. So why do people believe the correct information that's being spread around online? Well, because people like you know nothing about the conflict and resort to infographics What is this Deborah? Is this not like an infographic type of thing? You're sharing like a comic where there's this weird conversation going on like I want to know did she make this? Did she get this from somewhere like she probably got this from Instagram herself? Because people like you know nothing about the conflict and resort to infographics on Instagram Who's getting their information from Instagram Deborah? What the fuck? This is so bizarre Jesus and I love how like she She convinced this person at this point right if we're believing that this is like a narrative here This person convinced this person with the bogus information Successfully converted them but this person is still being an asshole because people like you are fucking stupid and you only resort to Infographics that you see on Instagram. Holy shit Deborah. What the fuck you are a stupid person Jesus Christ Don't take my word for it research for yourself. Are you sure about that Deborah? Are you sure you want people to actually research this topic because that's why so many people Understand what's happening. So how do we free Palestine according to Deborah Messing? Well, the majority of Israelis support a Palestinian state beside Israel in the West Bank and Gaza You should support it too. Oh, it's that simple. It's it's that simple. Did the Palestinians know everyone? Did the Palestinians know that it's that simple? Extreme nationalists on both sides try to claim Palestinians plus Israelis don't deserve national rights If you see someone opposing the basic human rights of either side or saying they don't exist stay away again So we should stay away from Deborah Messing, but I love this this very very Large question for someone who likes to talk about how complex the issue is like Deborah Messing She doesn't give you a definitive answer because she knows what the definitive answer is We have to put pressure on Israel How do we put pressure on Israel first and foremost? The US government has to stop vetoing every single resolution condemning Israeli apartheid and their war crimes at the UN Security Council second of all boycott divestments in sanction, you know, it's not That foreign history that you have to look back to see what was effective in South Africa in South Africa during apartheid So I love how you know, she she gives you a little bit of something to think about so what do we do to free Palestine? Oh, we'll just support a two-state solution Boom that easy Folks, she's got to get this information to the Palestinians because I don't think they realize how easy it is to end the occupation that they're currently Dealing with so I think she says one last dumb thing. No, that's it. That's it. And I love the responses here. So Desiree You are entirely ill-informed remarkable the irony here is that this thread is very threat of spreading this information Great job in that regard. I've got to like these. These are great. Everything you've said in this thread is disinformation like I Mean if it weren't for these people calling her out, this would make me feel crazy because she's so She's so disingenuous and so confident like this is the Dunning-Kruger effect right here She thinks that everyone else is wrong and everyone else is getting their information from Instagram infographics and memes when she Doesn't even have basic facts about the world that are easily verifiable How long does it take to Google how many states are in the Arab world? But she put 57 she shared an image that said there are 57 states within the Arab world and not only that all of these states Collectively account for an Arab Empire like what is wrong with Debra messing out of all the liberals She's the most uninformed and insufferable like I'm calling it right now. Holy fucking shit Debra messing Literally got this all from Instagram herself. She took this information From Instagram herself and she changed it to make the information incorrect I don't know if she did that herself or if somebody else did that and she just shared what somebody else did but she took good graphics and Changed it so aren't Israelis and Palestinians just fighting over religion. They're not fighting is real Israelis are the oppressors and Palestinians are the oppressed and the situation is about anything but religion She is truly shameless