 It's so emotional. Oh, well that's okay. Oh my god. Keep the tissues close. So, yeah, you go. You take it away. Yeah, okay. Welcome back to Spoonsville. We're covering the farewell Netflix movie. It's not a Netflix movie. Not a Netflix movie. I don't think. No. I think it's just on Netflix. Yeah. 2019, correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, it is a 2019. Yeah. I wish I could just sit with my knees up like this. That's tough. I really liked it. I never tried trying not to talk to you. Talk for you. But I really like it. I think we both really liked it. Yeah, we did. The movie in the movie is that the grandmother. Yeah. It's a Chinese immigrant family that's living in America. And the grandmother who's living in China apparently has cancer. And so the family decides that they shouldn't tell the grandmother about the cancer, which is customary to do apparently in China. Well, at least probably within certain cultures in China. I don't know if that is prevalent all over, but the family decides not to tell the grandmother and then they just throw a wedding. Really, it's just for the family to come together. They need an excuse for the family to come together. And for everybody who's living outside of China to go there and for everybody who knows her to basically say their last goodbyes without actually saying their last goodbyes. The younger people. To have a mock wedding. Yeah, they have a mock wedding. So they have a mock wedding where, so that as an excuse to have people to come together and then the grandmother doesn't know the whole time. So Billie is the main character. Yeah. Yeah, and she... Played by Aquafina. Yeah, and she grew up in America. Well, they moved when she was really young. Yeah. Two, I think. And so she's very, very much Americanized. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, so they tell her that the grandmother is sick, they're going to go... And they don't want her to go. They don't want her to go because she's super emotional and can't hold her feelings back and they're worried that she's going to basically blow everybody's cover. Yeah. And so they didn't want... The parents go without her, but then she ends up going afterwards. Yeah. And maybe it's also because she wasn't as tied culturally to that culture in China of not telling elderly people of their sickness. So when she's there, she's bringing it up, they're getting a massage other times. She's like, so are we really not going to tell the grandmother about her cancer? And then, you know, so she all... I think they also knew that she'd have the moral quandaries, the struggles, as well as struggling emotionally. They just... They also knew that I think she would just struggle more with that dilemma. Yeah. Yeah. Because she is obviously... She's a split between two cultures. So there is that. And so it was really hard for her. She wanted them to tell her, but the family didn't want to. Yeah. I don't know. It was just a really... I don't know. There was a lot of soul in that movie. Oh man. I love this movie so much. I... We watched it last night. Yeah. And I'm still crying. Yeah. Just thinking about it. I was making those. I like making them. What was it that you were thinking about that was getting you back? I know it was something for me that really sticks out that I love when movies do this, that separates I Find Great Movies from good or mediocre movies. We tried to watch one earlier, at some point yesterday too, I think. And it felt very lifeless and just uninspired. And then this movie, The Farewell, there's these great, not even montage, but great scenes where they... There's a lot of great dialogue and a lot of character scenes. And then they'll have a scene that's just music. Yeah. And the music's great, but it's like, I don't know, it's not even original. It's classical music, but there's a scene where for instance, they get a call, I think, so the family has to rush to see the grandmother. Like maybe there's a call from the hospital and then they're not really sure which way to go during what's going on in the scene. I don't know. For me, it's those little touches. I think that doesn't take a lot. They're just, why don't we put some music as well? It's not like there's no audio. You can hear the characters running around, but they just put some music in here just to intersperse it in an interesting way, I think. And that to me shows just a little bit of really wanting to make this something special, at least for the people working on it. For me, that's a big thing for me. The whole movie obviously is... It's centered around someone, the grandmother, Nainai, her passing, possibly. She has cancer and she's going to die. She has three months as far as everybody knows. And it was really hard for me to see that because there was, of course, so much pain and very well depicted by the actors. Oh my God. The acting was fantastic. There was just so much pain and everybody was just trying to cover it all with smiles and humor. And it was just, no matter how hard they tried, it was really just, it was just tough and obviously Billy struggled a lot with that and the dad actually struggled with that too because the mother, the grandmother, kept pointing it out. You know, with Billy and the dad, right? Yeah. I think I was just really sad for everyone to know that someone who you love, I think that must be, that's obviously a hard thing to know that someone you love is going to die soon. And we all know we're going to die but if you have, if you know that, okay, there's a finite time within which this person's going to not be here anymore, then it gets harder and I think it gets even harder because when you do know that, you just want to say everything that's in your heart. All the things that you feel for them, the regrets you might have, you want to air them all out but because everybody was pretending that they were there for a wedding, they weren't able to actually just let these things, their feelings out and express themselves in the way that they want, they would want to. One of the things that I really love about the movie is that, is how well it depicts minorities as well as minorities and immigrants and how you live between two different cultures or two different cultures live within you and how difficult that can be and I think the movie, throughout the movie, that was so well depicted and I think, even if you move to one country at a very young age, if you ever, and even if, I think even if you never lived in your own country, you still have this connection to the place that even though you don't have anything tangible to give or to, that draws you back to your country of origin and so the movie for me did that so well. Things like when Billy was talking to the mom at the end about how hard it was for her and how she felt that the parents didn't explain or help her transition to America well enough and also help her to support her through the transition from leaving, from living in China and then living in America. That was, I think a lot of immigrants could identify with that. I think the thing that people don't really realize is that especially for people who are very visibly, if you move to a place like the US where the dominant culture is well, people of European descent, right? And you come here, you move to the US and you're a migrant, right? Or you look like you're Asian, right? And so that's outwardly you are automatically different and there is, you'll always get questions. A lot of the times you'll get questions like where are you originally from? And so even though you are very much American, you could have been born in America but you're never fully allowed to be an American because of that and you always have to grapple with those two identities. But for you, it's even harder because your parents don't expect that you are going through these things because they don't actually a lot of time have that same experience so you go through that alone without anybody actually having helping you process the emotions of moving between these two cultures and every single day shifting between those two cultures when you go home, especially for immigrant parents who didn't grow up there, you go home and you're a different person and you're out there with your friends, you're a different person but you never really feel like you fit in because there's just certain things that you go through that they don't. And I really like Billy, right? And I liked her a lot because in this entire movie it represented so many things that happened within minority families or their experiences. It represented them so very well because Billy is you know, because she grew up in the U.S. she's more Americanized than everybody and there's this expectation that by the people by her family that she's going to be more aligned with the U.S. and she's going to live much more her life much more according to American culture but as much as she doesn't agree with what the family is doing in terms of keeping the secret she's also respectful of her own culture and doesn't end up doing that. She never goes against the family and tells the grandmother and for me that was really accurate because I think I've seen a lot of movies where they depict minorities or immigrants or kids who grew up in the U.S. and they depict them as though oh well they're so Americanized they totally do not live by their culture anymore. That is very much more further from the truth than the reality. If you're an immigrant child out there you're living like everybody else but in the house you're not living it's very hard to do to live like how other people so I think they just did that so so well every single thing was just really beautifully done A lot of great scenes the one where Billy first visits her parents home at the beginning before she hears the news that her grandmother has got cancer and the mother is judging her on things and she's like if you're going to just give me a guff every time I'm not going to come over which is a very relatable thing it's kind of that weird why do you do this shouldn't you just be happy that I'm here why is the first initial thing that she feels judged a lot herself because just a lot of people have that self-judgment and then when someone comes in that's what they've been doing the whole time they were alone cutting vegetables so when their kid comes in they can just kind of do the same thing on them or something it's just a relatable scene I liked when they were playing the game at the wedding and it was just shot well it was just cool how they they spin around just the husband who kept screwing up but it was just a fun scene mixed in with all that everyone has this beautifully done I'm just really great find honestly 10 out of 10 I think anybody who wants to get some insight into what it's like to be an immigrant I think that would be the best movie ever especially when you come from a collectivist society which this represented that so well so many things about collectivism that that movie represents like the good and the bad it does that really nicely because every single culture individualistic cultures too there's good and bad and I think part of the hardships of being from a collectivist society is that you're not your own person you are an extension of your family and so whatever you do feels like there's more pressure there's always a lot more pressure because you know that what you do goes back to how people view your family and so you see those little things like okay well are you still playing the piano Billy or are you making money over there in America where that's the end sure Billy you're making a whole lot of money in the US that's why the US is so great so what did we say battery died what did we say I forget good points were made lost forever in collectivist societies you are an extension of your family yeah and so everybody has a say in what you do and you're much more aware of there's much more pressure there's much more reprimand when you make mistakes so there is that feeling constantly where you have to or you feel that you have to do things absolutely right there's no room for failure because everyone has a right to an opinion when it comes to your life and you see that a lot on the dinner with the aunt talking about what Billy is doing oh yeah for sure Billy is doing great over there in the US what are you doing Billy are you still playing the piano what's going on with that and so it's very I think that movie depicted that very well those hardships of coming from a collectivist society although I did feel as well that they depicted the great parts of collectivism with regard to community and family and having that what no what is it honey you're so annoying with the lighting so the movie also depicted the beautiful side of collectivist societies which is having that community to rely on it is really it just feels really good to know that your family is always there and you know you're never alone in life and you just you know that you can you have people to fall back on and people that actually really truly love you and so there is always that back and forth I don't know it's hard but at times it's a positive at times it's a negative a lot more individualistic cultures suffer from that feeling of say you're not able to get help or maybe your parents are very busy working everything and you're kind of on your own but if you had more collectivist family situation you could have grandparents aunts and uncles that could get you a job to get you out of a rut or you could get kind of that support a lot easier at times trying to figure out the different stages of life there's more people to give advice more people with different experiences you know frozen cons but then yeah it can also be that you're always under a magnifying glass so I don't remember what else we said I really forgot 10 out of 10 10 out of 10 perfect perfect movie I don't know if we if we captured the watching in Mandarin watch the movie in Mandarin as hard as it may be to be focusing on subtitles or don't use subtitles and then you can slowly learn Mandarin I'm so tired I'm super blue on my fingertips alright guys thank you so much for watching for the privilege of your time that's from a movie goodbye sorry I'm too tired