 Welcome to a wonderful Saturday of shuffling servers and fun stuff like that. I had plans to make other videos or something. I always get those plans, I'm going to do this and this and this, and I'm like, I have all these little things adding up. So I figured I'll start doing them and then the little things turn into more things and more things. Because shuffling all the data around for servers takes always more time than you would expect. I have everything backed up and I'm like, I got to move this and well, while I'm at it and wanting to do this and then I should probably rearrange how this works. And that's turned into a whole lot of this, that and the others. And it's been fun. And now I'm moving sync thing and my TrueNAS servers. So yeah, now it's like even more things to move. And I figured I'll do some of this just live here with all of you because why not? That's definitely a fun way to do it. I was just at a hacking thing. Pull that picture up first. This was pretty fun. And pull it up right here. I mentioned I was going the other day and then I went. And it was the MySec event. So Michigan Security, it's a group and they got a few chapters here in Michigan and some meetups. And I need to make a more conscious effort to attend more of the meetups just to get out and meet more people in the tech space in the physical world, not just online. They have, you know, they're only once a month meetup 12 times a year, I think I can leave and go, you know, meet there. So, so the, but I did that. And now we ended up doing, and I post this on Twitter. This was actually pretty cool because I wasn't going to do the CTF. This is not something I usually do, but we ended up doing the CTF. And we, as in Jason Slagels, president of CNWR, he killed it, man. So, although we were on a team together and our friend, Ed, who was there helped out as well, Jason really carried the team and we're actually shocked. And we came in second place and we're like, our specialty is not cybersecurity. Like we dabble in cybersecurity because it's something we enjoy and we should have a good understanding of, but, you know, technically we're more on like blue team defense, managing servers and things like that. So, scoring at a really good score of 125 points. And yeah, we were, we did good. We did really good. I say, just say, Jason did really good. I managed to solve a few of them. I got some steganography ones. I got one of them because it was stupid. There was, I didn't solve it the right way. I wish I would have saved the file because I would have redeemed, they shut it down. I didn't realize you're gonna turn it off right away or I would have saved some of the files. It would have been kind of fun to show you how I solved some of them because I did it in the dumbest way possible, but it worked. So it didn't matter. I still got the flag. Like someone was like, you could use image magic to turn that over and you could do this or you could output it this way. And I grabbed my laptop and I just turned it on its side and I said, I can read it now. And that was one of the flags. I just turned my laptop sideways to read some of the stuff. It was all ASCII2 and it was a pattern and I just resized the window until the pattern lined up. You're supposed to try to align the pattern. I was like, actually, if I dump it in terminal and drag it over, I can read it and turn my laptop sideways, which of course, you know, made people laugh. But fun stuff nonetheless, it was a good time. Always good hanging out with the hacker community. It is a better vibe than the business community. I've made a lot of good friends in the business community and I do enjoy events like IT Nation that I was just at. But the hacker community, definitely, you come in there to something like a CTF. So she liked me. I'm an amateur, not good at it. I just don't really, those always are things I puzzle with. There's gonna be like puzzle problems like that. I just struggle with these weird kind of off the wall puzzles when you're hiding stuff. And I get it, it's a lot of just brain teasers, if you will. And it was fun though. And the help I got just questions of how to approach things or how I might think about something. And it was definitely, it was cool because the immediate help you get from the people running it from other people that just are hanging out there and helping you find really obvious things, it was just really cool. So it was really good. Speaking of Unify, do you have a video tutorial on how to disable or block all calling home right now? I just blocked internet access for the firewall rule. If you're worried about any of the Unify stuff phoning home, if you will, yeah, just firewall rules. There's no other way I know of to do it other than to put a rule in your firewall that says it can't do that. I don't know another way around that. So it's sometimes that simple. I think I did a video two or three years ago talking about the phone home problem that Unify had set up. I don't know what they, I even looked at a long time to see what they do. I just told it not to phone home anymore. So with firewall rule, stopped it from phoning home. Something else I've been slowly working on. I've never really done any of these dashboards and this one's kind of cool. Oh, what's in the glass? Gentlemen Jack. But this is Homer, H-O-M-A-A-R, Home R, I think that's how it's pronounced. I could be wrong. But this is, I've been building the dashboard to start laying out all the stuff in some of the lab. This is only a small piece of some of the services we have running. And I might build this out because I just set everything in bookmarks and I memorized all the IP addresses so I don't think about it very often. But I realized that's not how everybody works. And so as we're rebuilding the lab, that's the project over the next 30 days, it's gonna happen. I'm rebuilding and this was some of the mess I had talked about. So I just posted this mess on Twitter. And I started taking everything apart in my studio and moving it all around and I got more servers and they're just kind of everywhere because I didn't feel like walking over or it's walking, driving. It's like a mile away from my house to go to my office. So I go over there and I'm like, oh, I don't feel like working over there. I'll just work over here. And then yeah, it's just a lot of stuff to do. No SSL on this. Was that the question? No SSL? I have a reverse proxy I use when I want to set SSL up. So no, but I don't bother with all my servers. I don't care enough. I'm only in them for YouTube demos. Most of the stuff is kind of set it and forget it. So I don't really care to put a reverse proxy on every web interface for everything I run. It just, I don't know. I don't know the need for it. Like I do it as a demo, but overall it's like, yeah, I just go through and all these are just IP addresses for all the things in here that are in Homer. The Synology, this Synology like I don't really, it's not often I even go into this Synology. Like I only go in here when there's something to do. If there's a setting I want to change or something like that, then I never log in. I'm in here more for YouTube demos than anything else. How many Synologies do you need? Oh, I have more. I don't even have them all on here yet. I got a few, we have a lot of stuff in our lab because we actually build out demos for things. And this is how you figure out how everything works. You make sure you got enough stuff available to you that you can go through and test scenarios or a customer has a question like, hey, I can build this out in some way. Actually, I didn't even look, I was updating one of them. Let me see if this one, I don't even know. I assume it finished updating. I haven't logged in. Oh, update now, I forgot. I downloaded the update for this one. We'll update this one while we're live on the air. So we'll update now. This just came out the other day. This is one of the lab ones, so I didn't load it right away. How many interconnections for redundancy? Two, I don't need more than two. I mean, I can't think of, it's not like a data center I'm running here, it's a lab. And matter of fact, there's actually, I guess it's redundant, but I think I have some forced routes. So I'm using wide open West at my house for internet, they're the internet provider here in Michigan. We also have a backup with Comcast, but I don't have a backup with Comcast at my house. So I have to make sure it doesn't, till I get the fastest speed, I actually have it going from wow to wow. So we have wide open West as a primary connection with Comcast as a backup at the office. So I have them synchronized with my VPN and WireGuard. But I don't think my WireGuard VPN fails over, but if it, I'd lose access to my lab if the internet went down, okay, it doesn't bother me enough to fix it. 5G home, no, not really worth it. I mean, I have my phone, I could do a hotspot on my phone if I had to. Like that's my simple solution, I could do a hotspot on my phone. My office is a mile away with dual internet connections. But it's kind of one of those, if you're playing the game, so to speak, of how much money should I spend on this? Well, that's a good question because I have lost internet probably an hour cumulatively in the last two years or three years. It's so minor. I can only think of one time, and it was a major outage that wide open West had, like those major outages are the only couple of times I lost, like when they were in the news because something went horribly wrong. So I went outside instead. I was like, I don't have no internet, that sucks. If I had to do some calls, if I had to do some consulting stuff, I'll go to the office where we have dual connections, I can go to somewhere. But it's actually, the outages so far have never even interfered with the meeting. So USB tethering to a WAN on PF Sense, that sounds terrible. Yeah, and if you live in out somewhere rural, that's definitely a whole another problem. For me, it's just as simple as, I'll grab my phone and hotspot my phone, and I can actually, I can usually do enough things for my phone or I'll tether my phone to my laptop. If I tether my phone to the PF Sense or hotspot that, I'd have to try and limit all the connections, all the Chromecasts in the house. Like I could split it all up, do a bunch of policy routing, but I just actually just, I connect to my laptop to my hotspot if I want, if I need it. So I have enough services running at home when the internet goes out, I normally don't mind. If I need to, I can just go hotspot the phone, use laptop, yeah. Yeah, once you start running your own media servers, you might not even notice that the internet went out. So, you know, once you've configured all the transmission to make sure you have all your ISOs that you need to reinstall your Linux distributions. Yeah, and I got to add my MB server. Oh, I'm going to build this one, right now I'm building this for my lab, but I'm going to build the same thing for the office lab. But yeah, technically it's Saturday night live, you're not wrong. Last time I did a DSM update on my strategy device, I removed everything from my home user directory. That's interesting. I hope that doesn't happen. All the updates I've done have gone extremely smooth. I mean, I've been using some of these devices since they started in version six when I got them and I've just continually upgraded them and they've just worked perfectly fine. This is the Home R dashboard. Home R, I think it's someone to pronounce it, it's H-O-M-A-A-R, I think is how that's said. I'll drop a link in for people. Home R, link this one, hold on. Now I'm confused. I got to get the right link for it. A-R-R, there's two R's, that's why I got it wrong. There we go. Cause there's the Homer dashboard and the Home R dashboard. So this is, I'll put this link up there. It is H-O-M-A-R-R dot dev. So that's, yeah, that's, I've been liking this one. It seemed to be the least complicated and I'm actually running this in a TrueNAS. So we'll actually switch over to that tab, pull this up. So it's, this is an app available. So if you go to the Discover apps and Home R is a sleek modern dashboard, I make the words a little bigger, but it works fine. It's really simple. I haven't had any problems with it. It's just so easy to use. With the old Linux server unified Docker deprecation, I'm plant, I'm still planning on what to do next. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I'm not big on running the Unify and Docker, I just, I just run it, it's not hard to install. I did a video recently on how to set up the Unify controller. It's just not hard to install. So it's like, I just don't bother with Docker with that. Oh, they will admit the new, where did it go? The new Unify does look nice. I've been testing this. I got to set a couple of things up on it, but the new port manager, the new VLAN stuff, it looks pretty cool. They're doing some nice stuff with it here. Do I have any idea why shall this fail when I update DNSPL settings? I don't know. Look through the error messages, then post, they have a forum, a support forum in Reddit where you can post if there's a problem with them. You always went back to a homepage. Yeah. The Unify installer scripts from, is it, I can't remember the person's name, but he's one of the employees of Unify and they write, they write one of the scripts to install it. Yep, it'll do the installations and the upgrades. Glen R, yep, the Glen R install script. I've switched to XO, switched my XO from Docker to the installer script. I think I like it better, lower RAM footprint plus file restore working. Yeah. Yep, the Glen R Unify scripts. Look those up, you'll find them. They're definitely very helpful for doing the install. It looks like this is done. It's my lab one, so I'm going to skip the 2FA. I'll deal with that later. Cool, it's all up to date. That was painful, pain-free. Yeah, these synologies are just solid. They work so well. I've been really happy with them. Missing community in front. What lab one you have 60 of them on? You know, and these are all spread across, like this one's remote, this one's, some things are at my studio slash house where I have some things. The majority of this stuff that I do is going, is all at, the majority of this stuff is actually at the office. This is where a lot of this lab stuff lives. That way I can go in here and test things out. Do I have a Proxmox for testing reasons? You know, I loaded one today, close some of these tabs, and I forgot the IP address of it now. Hold on. I built one today because I just wanted to test if some tools worked. Is it one, four? There we go. I'm not going to remember the username. Yeah, cool. So yes, I have a Proxmox running right here. I'm not as big on the Proxmox, I don't know. I'm just used to the XCP-NG interface, but I wanted to try it because one of the reviews I'm doing of some hardware, one piece of hardware Proxmox would not run on and another one it would. Now, people had a bunch of suggestions and it's Linux. I know how to hack away at it and figure it out. I was just annoyed of it not working out of the box. Proxmox didn't, this used to be a complaint that I've seen from people and this is just me reading the peripheral. I don't use Proxmox day-to-day, so I can't answer this, but I've seen a lot of people complaining about Proxmox 8 having a problem with network cards, like network cards being out of order. I've seen this pop up a lot. I don't really know much about it in terms of like troubleshooting it, but it's all Linux underneath so it shouldn't have this many problems, but I don't know. It seems to be kind of buggy. I certainly have experienced the bugs. It didn't like the Intel 226 that that's the challenge like this system has real tech cards, works fine, VLANs work fine, and the testing I did all, no problems with it, but the 226 drivers didn't on a, it was actually a Ryzen system I have, couldn't get Proxmox working with them. It just, it gets an IP address and won't run out of traffic and someone's like, oh, there's an update for it, blah, blah, blah, but the problem is when you can't get updates on it because it's disconnected, you got to set up an offline repository, copy all the files over it, and I'm like, I just don't feel like doing it. Like I know how to do it. This is not a task I can't do. It's a task I'm too lazy to do because I just want to basically, I'm going to tell people you can get Proxmox working, but you're going to have to go through steps. When I, I have a few places of hardware I'm going to review and I've been trying to test Proxmox on them and XCPNG because I know it's going to be questions people ask and that way I can say, hey, these work, you know, or it doesn't work or what you need to do. So, let's see. Let's see. I knew there was a lot of people like Proxmox. Yeah, I looked at Proxmox too and I feel the same way. Like comparatively speaking, switching back to, XCPNG is just easier to me, especially the way you do VLANs and stuff. I don't know, it feels a little bit clunkier in here. Like when I'm, you know, I don't know. It's just me not knowing it as well. I will completely capitulate to that going, yeah, I'm just less familiar with it. So I go here and I know I can change the network interface. I got no VLAN on there, but if I want to put a VLAN tag, I go one, three, this is one of my, this is a valid VLAN tag. I type it in, I hit okay. You know, I get it. It's easy enough to do. Edit the memory, we can change the memory on it. Can you change memory on the fly? What happens when we do this? Cool. All right. Now if we go back into the, did we get more memory? How much memory does it think we have now? I guess I gotta reboot it. See it still only thinks it has two. So I guess does Proxmox dynamically expand? Let's reboot this. Oh wait, we should probably do it through the machine here. Let's restart. If I restart, do I have more RAM? Let's find out. The web going in XO is so much more polished. It's actually, the web going in, it's not just more polished. It gives me a lot more flexibility at scale over all the VMs. That's the big thing I noticed is there's just a lot of flexibility I get that I don't feel like I have in here. It feels like I can still manage things but when you wanna manage a lot of things, see still nothing. So let's go ahead and shut down. Look at the hardware. All right, set four gigs. Okay, so it applies it when you start and stop the VM. You know, that's fine. I know that now. But one of the things is, where's the, if we go here to our PVE, where's the storage? We're used at the data center all. Storage, so I can edit the storage. I don't know, I gotta play with it. ZFS over iSCSI, NFS. I don't have an NFS server handy right now. But one of the things I wanna point out, and let's go here. Ranch some weird things during XCVD in my testing, but the interface better for sure. I wish open box, unbox interface is better when having a single node. Eh, you think it's weird too? Okay, you think the VLANs are strange too? We can go with that. Gotta restart for hardware changes, that's why it's the amber color. All right, let's try this. So let's give an example in here. Let's fire this system up. I don't know, I like, and I can't wait, their new UI is amazing. Like their enhancements are doing for the new version of this. Once this jumps up to the new version, it's gonna be that much better than what it is already. So here's my lab system I'm running right here, running WN12. One of the things I wanna point out here, and we'll actually do a memory increase as well. So we can go in here and, I think about what the username is for this. Oh, I want it pretty, I want NeoFetch in here, because it looks cooler. And then with all the kids that are doing these days in Linux, you install some fancy system and you run NeoFetch so you can look cool. I wanna be the same. There we go. So right now we can see that the NeoFetch shows, scroll down a little bit, the four gigs of RAM down here. Matter of fact, I can just actually run Htop on this too. Whoops, but Htop not found. Well, we can fix that. Sure, let's show some Htop in here. And I've done a video on this as a topic already, so I'm covering it here because why not we're sitting in a live stream? But you can see right here, you can see the memory in it. So we have the three gigs of memory. We can go over here. Oh, so I did not turn on, you do have to turn on dynamic memory to do it on the fly in here. So I'll show that. You can change it on the fly back and forth. Is there a dynamic memory option where you can do that inside of Proxmox? I'm not as sure on that. I had done some memory stuff, VLANs for you. It's exciting, it works so much easier on XCPNG. Yeah, VLANs are really simple. XCPNG is the base for a private cloud service. Yours and a lot of other people too. Oh, you prefer Btop? We can load Btop on this. That's definitely an option. Btop is cool. Forgot to say please. There we go. Much prettier, right? Btop is nicer. I mean, we got colors. We'll stop this one real quick here. What have we got here? So the way you do dynamic memory, and I've dove into, you can actually do dynamic CPUs as well, but you can set the limits here for things. So we have the min max. So we'll set this with a max of eight gigs of RAM, but it currently for the, actually we'll set this one too. There we go. Eight, that's what I meant. I wanted the dynamic set. So let's go over here. Now we still only have, oh, we have eight right now. So we'll shrink it. Cause you can shrink memory too. That's a fun job. So LTS, password, and Btop. Then we can see, do, do, do, do, do, where's the memory at? I don't use Btop as much. I'm trying to, okay, eight gigs right here. We can go switch it to four. While it's doing its magic. There goes the RAM. We've just shrunk it down. You can do that dynamically in here. It's a cool feature. You got an able hot plug memory under the VM options. Okay. Yeah, Btop is really neat. There's a couple other tools for, you know, I should cover them again. My videos that are old don't get much love and they're not good either. I could do a better job of them, but one Btop, I could cover like some of the Linux utilities for troubleshooting things that would pop, that have nice little, you know, terminal based UIs like this that are nice. Cause another one that's kind of neat is Glances. Is that installed through there? I was looking at that one too. Yeah, let's, hold on. I don't want to muddy up this machine. These are supposed to be my cleaner lab machine. So let me stop this lab machine. Actually, we're just going to force shut down. Cause I want to actually revert this before we load anything. So we're just going to revert there. We've reverted this VM back to a less crappy state. You'd watched that video. Yeah. Well, we'll just play around with a few of them now, but I don't want to muddy up this with a bunch of crap in it. So what we're going to do is revert this VM. By the way, the VM snapshots, if you didn't notice, brought the RAM back. So when you snapshot a VM and XCPNG, it's not just the VM you're snapshotting. It's all the settings that came, that you may have changed. So you've messed with any settings in here. You're actually reverting back all of the settings at the same time. So any changes you made or any of that is all getting reverted back at the same time when you do this. What I want to do those before I do this is before we, I don't have it. This keyboard is not the greatest. It's got a couple of sticky keys. This is not the keyboard I usually type with. There's this is the keyboard I type with for demos. I have my other keyboard over here. I have two keyboards connected to one computer. So let's see if that works. We'll see if there's any packages. All right, no packages to update. So this is one of the things you can do in this WN12 lab. So let's go ahead and clone it. There's the clone and we'll just name this one YouTube demon. Well, you know what? There we go. Now we spelled it right. So this is the YouTube demo. Actually we'll say live stream demo. And by the way, one of the things I don't know if you can do this in Proxmox. I should test this right now. Let's find where my Proxmox since then go share this tab. Can you rename? How do you rename things in here? Here's a summary. Point to where you rename things in here. I can put tags on it. I can't use emojis though. Where do you change? Can you change the name once these are created? Convert to template, stop, shut down, hibernate. Huh, is, hmm, no, weird. Well, the thing you can do here, we'll go back over to XP and G and some of you may have noticed this already. You can put emojis. If you look at my, even my production ones, I've got emojis in all my descriptions because I think it's fun. So you can absolutely do this. It's completely easy and possible to do. And I think it looks cool. I know it's silly, but I like doing this stuff. Back over to what we were doing. Matter of fact, hold on, let me hide the screen because I think it shows my, oh, I don't know if I'm emailed in on this one. Let's move over to a different server. Cool, this one's not got my email on it. I don't use my email with this one. I have different emails for a lot of different things. That way I know where notices come from. But we can go back over here and that WN12 is right here. Now we can fire this one up and play with some of those tools I was gonna talk about. I wanna look at glances again. I remember that one being pretty cool. But forking stuff is really easy to either make a copy or a fork or a clone so you can just keep duplicating these. It's kind of an arbitrary but easy thing to do. Somewhere in here, and I don't care that you see this. This is a lab system with no external access. I can roll my code later. I didn't even know I had a code on this one because this is completely just a lab system. But hey, I do. You now have my TOTP, which I don't care much about. We'll tag this one for YouTube. And then we'll find that one. Cause we have tags in here too. Now when we click home, yay! Oh, there's my demo lab too for that. So you guys can, yeah, I think I definitely showed my 2FA. I don't care. I'm completely not worried about it. Matter of fact, the 2FA for this one is stored in my Bitwarden. So I can just turn it off. I'm completely not worried about it. Cause this is all in a, this is all just, this gets rebuilt a lot. There's a reason there's so many XOAs. I experiment with a lot of things. I was experimenting even the fact that I have 2FA on this. Our production stuff's different. That is why I switched away to the lab because I will accidentally share things. So I know I will not be able to help myself in a live stream cause there's no editing going on. And so we switched to lab environments for this stuff. Cause that's why I have so many instances of everything. Does your company offer support for XTP and production environments? Yes, we do a lot of that. We've helped some large companies build out XTP and G infrastructure. That is definitely a thing. But now let's log in here. Just install glances on this one. It was a lot to install with this. Which I remember, I think this is one of the other ones I wanted to do a video on because I thought it was cool. There's kind of a lot going on, but it's also a pretty neat tool for seeing what's going on with this system. Load all the things. One nice thing is these hosts are super fast. These are Ryzen 9s, 12 cores. So for this lab stuff I do, they're just great. I've got three of them. Yeah, so this is glances. It'll give you a decent amount of information, but it's actually got some, someone was doing a demo on it and I thought it was kind of novel or write up I read and I was like, oh, okay. But you can tie glances instances together. That was, if I remember right, that's one of the things you can do that made me interested in it. Do you have one with the Windows 11 VM? No. I don't really have a need for XO Store. So I don't, I haven't tested it. I'll wait till it's out of beta. I just don't care enough. I mean, I'll use hyperconverge if it's needed, but it's not needed for most of what I do. And I still think BTOP look prettier than glances. So the ones we, so if we go back and do apt-get. BTOP so far is the prettiest one we've seen. But I'm not, like right now, if I wanna just move this to somewhere else, it's like, even without hyperconverge, I can just take and migrate the storage wherever I want. So it's not really been a huge deal for me to do this. Like I can take this, move it local, move it here. I don't know. It's not been something I've had some big need for. So I'm not too worried about it. I'll wait till it's out of beta. People ask a lot of questions about it, so. Multi-tenant environments, it's not like it's designed, it does have permissions for the users, but that's not it's exact, it's not supposed to be a hosting platform where you give users access to XCPNG. You can, but I wouldn't have strangers in there. You definitely want people who are like from your company. So it has a user management system. So your staff can be delegated permissions and assigned permissions to different things. But this isn't like the interface you give to the public to build a hosting environment. Yeah, I've done a video on it before. I've done like a basic rules for PF sense. I was gonna just do a 2023 or 2024 edition of it, but my old video is still relevant on it. Everything you're looking for is approximately is under options for hot plug memory CPU. Okay, so in our Proxmox, like I said, I completely say it's just, I probably don't know where things are. I just got to find where the options are for hot plug. That's the challenge too. People, that's why I don't do a bunch of videos on everything, it's at some point, you're like, well, how many can you do? Like there's so many, there's only so many things that you can find the time for. And I don't use Proxmox in production, but we have a lot of businesses using XCPNG. So that makes a big difference. Edit. Okay. Memory CPU hot plugs. Start. Well, that didn't work. Options. Apparently, turning that on broke things. Let's just turn off CPU. So USB and memory. Oh, what is this era? NUMA needs to be enabled for hot plug memory. Got it. I guess we don't have NUMA on this. Oh, well, womp, womp. All right, found the, this device doesn't support that. Are you trying to build a multi-tenant, like you're trying to be a hosting provider? So what you should use depends on what your goal is. Yep, someone pointed it out. So I like it when I'm looking at the screen, I can't see the comments and others always people will be pointing things like that out, which is fine. I should switch back to the screen mark. So there's definitely people who know more about Proxmox in the chat here than Tom does. But the other thing I'll talk about for XCPNG is this one here. Like, obviously I have a lot of VMs in here. There's not many running. There's actually only one running right now. So I was shutting stuff down. So you see I've got, oh, I don't know, 28 virtual machines in here for various reasons. And if you have those virtual machines running, what you'll run into is, you may have to do some maintenance on one of your many storage servers. And Marybeth, if you look at storage, we have this lab one, lab at local storage. But what if you wanted to maintenance your storage? One of the things you can do that's pretty slick in this is something I thought was just awesome. And this is especially when you have a dozen VMs, you can enable maintenance mode. And it finds all the VMs that are attached to it that might be running, that you can turn on or off to enable maintenance mode. And we can just hit, you know, okay, it'll shut down all those VMs and it'll allow me to do maintenance on my storage server. Now I could just move all of them off of this as well. That's another option. I could just move them to another storage server and away you go. I also like that you can tag all of your different storage servers. Matter of fact, I have fewer of them right now, but whenever testing stuff comes in when I'm testing other Synology storage servers or other, just in general, when I'm gonna wanna do any type of storage testing, that's where I start really adding a bunch of them in here. And it's just nice because it makes it really dynamic to move them around, shuffle things wherever you want them to be shuffled. And boom, you can just migrate them over or shut them all down without having to hunt them down. Actually, let me switch over to my production system and I'll show you, because I think there's probably more running on there. So we'll go to the storage server here, production, NFS, advanced, and then, oh, I've only got three on this one, but it'll let me know each one of these, whoop, wrong, share this tab. It'll let me know each one of these that would be shut down for maintenance mode. And I can actually choose instead not to shut them down or move them somewhere else. I could just migrate them. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna do maintenance on that. This one was one of the ones running on there. So I can just move the storage to any one of the other storages that are available in it. It's just a click away to do that. To me, that's what makes it so simple. Do you use Active Directory for users in CNWR? Yes, we do. Active Directory versus the Zental server. I can't remember. Is Zental the one that's, does that even get updates anymore? But AD is way more extensive than the Samba versions of AD. All those other third-party tools are running Samba to emulate AD, but they're not gonna emulate full Active Directory. They're gonna emulate portions of Active Directory. So you can't even compare them. They're just not, they're not full-featured. It's not a matter of not telling you not to use them. It's more a matter of like, will they fit your use case? You know, is your use case, I just wanna manage a couple of users, great. But do you have extensible AD functions you wanna use? Well, it'll fall flat on that. I just set up a Proxmox and a Prectelebox to do virtual edge. Now I think I'm gonna swap it XCPNG. Zental has a developer branch. Is there still getting updates? That's what I was wondering. Because when I looked at their site, news just, 2021 was the last update from their site. So, I mean, I see they still have free trial and things like that, but it feels like, it feels like it's not getting updates anymore. I mean, I could be wrong. Download Zental 7 change logs. The change logs show last update of January of 2021. Yeah, two years without a new version makes me kind of feel like they're not really keeping up with the times, but maybe I'm wrong. Is Azure replacement for Active Directory? Nope, Azure is not a replacement. In matter of fact, they don't call it Azure AD anymore. They call it Intra ID because Microsoft changed the name of it. It's not a replacement, it's just a cloud version of it. I guess you can kind of say it in some ways, maybe it's a replacement because it's just a cloud version of it. And that's where Microsoft wants you to go. Pay a subscription to our cloud. We'll hold your data and we'll charge you monthly for it and we'll charge you more next month for it and more and more the next month after that. Will we provide more features? Probably not. Will we provide better security? Maybe, but that's on our own terms and only after we're publicly shamed into doing something securely. That's kind of like how I feel about Microsoft. They're just the biggest game in town so they can be really laxadaisical on things because what are you gonna do, not use them? Everybody integrates with them. This is the challenge with them. They're so big in lack competition. So any update on the 404 stream? Pretty soon, it's not tonight. I will not make it. I can tell you that. I can definitely go an hour. I can maybe go two hours. I don't know that I'm going four hours tonight on this. We don't have to care. We're the phone company. Yeah, yeah, and there's still, and you do, you tie on your, there's someone pointing out here, you tie your Entra ID to your on-prem AD. It's a mess. I don't know. And like people said, it can do almost what GPOs could do now. Yes, it's just a mess though. The whole thing is, I don't know, it feels so cobbled together. We have to use it. It's just, we have to support it. But the good news is, it's not my job to support it. We have a staff that supports it. Tom doesn't really spend any time dealing with Azure AD things, nor do I want to. I just don't care enough. It's not where my passion lies at all. Yeah, my rant on the whole Microsoft losing their keys. There was just so many failures. I did that video because it was just, whoever wrote that write up was just grinding your teeth. This has been fixed. This has been fixed. It's like Microsoft, this disaster happened in 2023. Why aren't you signing keys in a hardware security module in HSM? Why? Why are you not doing this? You can't just say we're too big to do it or we're too cheap to do it. I don't know what the answer is, but Microsoft's like fumbling around that led to them losing the signing key and that big compromise earlier this year. It's a face-palming experience, and it's just because they just didn't put the time into doing what needs to be done because someone in management said, I don't wanna spend money on that. And you know how many customers Microsoft lost? This is the thing. You vote with your dollars, right? How many customers did Microsoft lose after losing a signing key and causing government breaches? You're talking about like a nation-state stupidity level event here. And I say stupid. I know someone broke into them and I try to always be respectful of the fact that when anyone gets hacked, you can't ever say they were asking for it. The reality is, they didn't lock the door with a good enough lock. You can't just shame them for that because someone did indeed break into their stuff, do something malicious. But you can also say their company worth over a trillion dollars who clearly has the resources to put forth this. And maybe one of the executives doesn't get his bigger yacht this year or his fourth home, whatever that compromise is so they could actually do some real security. That's how I feel about Microsoft. HSM's for the code signing because they lost the key in there. Yeah, Steve Gibson talked about this too. Nobody's bonus was based on don't let our signing key get stolen. There's the problem. But Microsoft lost zero customers. So nobody lost any money. They just had to go, and the PR people are gonna be busy. PR people are having a bad day today. So yeah, this is why I just, I don't know. I always rant about Microsoft because it's so Microsoft. What are you gonna do though? But I don't know. Move on to other things. Do things that are more fun or more interesting. That's how I feel. They do a lot of their marketing department and they have too much clout. Microsoft at least reported US officials say they're warned of a Chinese owned Bitcoin mine in Wyoming. You know, some really good people at Microsoft. It's the management I don't care for. There's some really smart technical people there. No doubts. The management, I'm less a fan of them. I'll say that. Oh yes, the South Park Cable Company meme hits really hard. Yes, it does. Good evening. Well, it's actually, it's kind of evening for you as well. You're I think three, I can't remember if you have three or four hours behind. But how you doing? The bearded IT dad. Me and him, we have to do some talking about PF Sense. And I was gonna do something else and I've already got distracted. What was I going to do? I think it was the utility things I was talking about. Where was it? Where is that tool I'm looking for? There's one of the tools I wanted to talk about. Hmm. You know, Speedometer's one of them. That one's kind of neat. IP Trap though. That's one I really wanted to talk about. Let's pull up IP Trap. We gotta admit BTOP looks cool. So let me pull up some connections here. There's no connections right now. I gotta open one. So let's close this. There we go. This allows you to track each individual connection that comes in and lets you watch them. It's called IP Trap NG. It is, oh, I'll type, I'll put the thing in here of what I'm using. IP Trap NG. This app to get install it. But it's kind of a neat tool because if you wanna dive into some of the packet capturing and details, statistical breakdowns by packet size, it gives you a nice UI to start diving into and watching the traffic. And it also has a lot of filters in it. So you can actually configure it. Not here. There we go. Filters, ARP filters, no IP, IP, to find a new filter or apply a filter, edit filter, then we add to the list here, IP address, wildcard mask. This is kinda cool. So you can start filtering down some of the connections you wanna watch go back and forth. I've used this for all kinds of random troubleshooting problems that I've had with Linux servers that I'm remoteed into. And you can start filtering for certain protocols or certain traffic and then watch that traffic exclusively. It's not, I mean, you can run the T-shark, which is the terminal version of Wireshark as well. But I kinda like this because it was just the simplicity of some of these tools made it kinda cool to do this. And it's all just menu driven. So you can go through the menus and figure out what you wanna look in for. Oops, let's pull some data. You'll see the numbers go as I'm doing this. Matter of fact, let's go back to the connections page. So if we go back here, then we're just doing some updates. I'm doing another screen doing that and you can see all the traffic go through. Now you can see the bytes that are being pulled. It gives you those little statistics on there for things. This is kind of a neat little tool, like I said, to play with in Linux. I'll make a whole video of all the little tools because they're fun. This is another one, byte monitor. So if you wanted to test different things and see where the data is going back and forth, this one, speedometer. There's all these little tools out there for Linux. They're just really nice. Thought about ditching my DL80 Thrive and G7 for small rising boxes. Yes, that's the topic I wanna kind of dive into. I'm working on like a, and I've seen some of my friends doing this too, talking about budget home labs because power budgets are a thing. And some of these mini devices that I'm running this on are low power, good CPU, as far as like your performance and everything else. I think these little mini PCs are gonna start really killing off the used server market. It's not that there's gonna be a zero need for the used server market, but for a lot of things, you're like, wow, I can build these lower cost systems that have the reasonably price I should say, they have a lot of compute power without a lot of wattage requirements. And they're kind of small and compact. So you can actually stuff a lot of them and build clusters out of them for redundancy. It's pretty cool. Forum needs a pinned post with all the cool tools. I don't necessarily have to pin the post, but yeah, there's gonna be a whole write-up I'll do. So I'll have a write-up that accompanies the video that make it really easy. Oh, is there a Jeff Geerling in here? Oh, yes. Coral 5 Pie, I didn't even realize a while Jeff had appeared. Organization is too big, been around too long, management gets rotten at many levels, it's inevitable. Corey Dockrow coined this phrase as the in-shedification cycle. If you look up Corey Dockrow in-shedification, he's got wonderful writing on companies that go through these cycles. And Jeff's completely writing, he's spot on on this. Endtop is another one. An experience with Chasm for remote workspace, debating if I should get a more powerful laptop or a pro desktop so I can access remotely when needed. Chasm's pretty cool. I mean, there's no doubt. I think it's really neat. I think there's a main benefit is the used market for SMBs who want better hardware but can't afford latest servers. Yeah, there's still, like I said, it's a non-zero amount of need. But yes, let me pull up something real quick cause I wanna run some more data through this. I pulled this tool up and got distracted answering questions. We gotta pull some data across here so this does something. I'm just running an iPerf test on it so you can see the data going on there, stuff in the queues. Oh, I got the wrong interface here, hold on. Really quit, yes. You actually gotta tell it which interface. So I want, what is ENX zero? I got to do Beeman. Well, actually I can use the other tool as well for that. Hmm, that's weird, why is it? There, I had to run sudo, that's why, derp. There. I can see the data going across on this one. Anyways, distracted, too many things. I've been tearing my hair with NFS-Person, do you recommend using three or four? Client side, all Linux systems, use both basic file storage, VM Docker storage. I think I'm using NFS v4 in all my systems. I can look real quick. Let's log into that server and find out. What is the NFS settings for this one? Actually it's gonna be under services. Yeah, I'm using v4. So I'm using v4 and it works fine. Thank you very much, Jordan. It is greatly appreciated. Always appreciate the donations. They do help out the channel. I buy a lot of this stuff myself. So I just bought 4Dell R7525s with dual 64C125 Trogies RAM for less than a single latest addition. Oh, the 7525, yeah. Yeah, you can get some pretty good deals on these. Core not scale. Yeah, this is core. I don't think I have any NFS currently running on scale. Maybe, hold on. I have one. So let me look on one of my scale systems. One of them is currently running that. So we go here to services. This one runs NFS. I feel that it does, it does. Yep, this one's v4 as well. So my scale and my core systems are both v4. So yeah, v4, it works. I'm not having any problems with it. I'm not trying, well, no. I actually will admit, I had some trouble with Docker, but I did it differently. And let me, this is probably easier if I pull it up. How can I get this over to here to show? I talked about this in another video. And someone says I'm doing it wrong and I said, that's fine. I don't think it's wrong. It works. You can mount window, there we go. Well, I could mount in my Docker container, have Docker managing the storage. I found that to be more of a headache. So my solution was, even though this is gray log running with Docker, I have Docker just pointing at mount gray logs, but that's actually NFS mount handled by the operating system. So I basically farmed out to the operating system, the mount, because I was having dumb problems with gray log or the Docker. I didn't feel, I'm not a Docker expert. So rather than try to solve, and I found lots of people with dead ends and no answered questions about getting Docker to natively mount NFS and when the problems, when it doesn't work what to do, no one seemed to have a clear answer on that. So I decided instead to have the OS mount it. Someone says, but you're cheating. And I'm like, cheating what? The OS mounts it perfectly with no issues at all. And then I told Docker just to use that as a mount point. So you make sure this is started and then Docker starts and then you're done. So that's my, as I was told, wrong workaround. So hopefully that makes sense. I guess that's a way to do it. You know, since I got this pulled up, I think it looks better when I do it this way so we can exit. Actually, if I do this, does that show up here? Yes, it does. Cool. What is the other tool I was gonna talk about? I forgot what it was. I gotta make a little list of them. I'm looking over, I have some scribbles. None of the next scribbles are actually all typed. Me and Jay talked about this one. I guess that wasn't installed. Oh, but this is nice for doing all your directory sizes and things like that when you're trying to sort out what's in each directory to figure out where the data is. This is just NCDU. What does LTS stand for? Always when you think of LT actualized tech tips. Lawrence Technology Services. I wasn't clever and I named my company my last name. Oh, you did yours the same way. So you did yours like me. So I'm not sure what permissions problems you're having. My only gripe with XCB to back to it is it doesn't record the VMs hard drive regardless of the SR status. You lose your, oh, you're talking about like if you, these backups, pull this up. Are you referring to the metadata backups? So if we did a, I gotta share a different screen. If you did a metadata backup, I think is what you're talking about. Yeah, you're right. If you do a metadata backup and restore, you have to update the local storage. That's correct. I actually, I thought about asking about writing a script that fixes that because your local storage is signed a UUID. So you reload it and you wanna restore the metadata. You just have to know the UUID. So you can just swap the storage. So if you copy it and then swap it and remount it that way, it'll actually work. But there should be a restore process that lets you swap the UUID. That's all. I don't know. It's not clear, I guess, if you didn't know that. I have to get my home PF sense to two, seven, one is working great. I had to change D to P to KIA. Anything else to do in the point one update yet? They do have some patches you can check, but no, I don't, I think you're good on that. Do load the patch manager. If you haven't seen it, I did a video on this and I think this was just a genius idea. It makes it easier to load patches. But if you go to the patch manager, let me switch screens again, you just apply all the patches. So you can add a new one if there's custom, but you can revert them all or apply all. I've applied them all already, but this is just the patch manager plugin. So do that and you're good. If there's none in there, don't worry about it. I don't know what's in the 2.71 to see if there's any patches. Does your have some Docker containers, try to see each finals was giving available argument and need to rewatch your permissions video for the 10th time. Do I still use Papa West as my daily driver? Sure do. LTS, long-term support, yes. At LTS, we provide you with long-term support for your problems. That's a good selling point. I use NC to find what containers sucking up all the storage, yep. Do you run your own DCP servers in lab? I run PF Sense in my lab, which does that. I always prefer it as an appliance, but we do run a PF Sense in virtualized so we can do different things with it. So I like having a virtual one. I don't like them as much in production. They're always, I don't know. It's just not my preference. So you can definitely, you know, you can virtualize it, it does work fine provided you set it up properly, but you're gonna run into, I don't know. You're just gonna run into some more quirkiness with it than you would otherwise. But there's, I've got a video on it, there's documentation on how to set it up. So I just prefer, I much prefer hardware. Also, when you have to restart your hypervisor, you're not worried about, I mean, you can build hypervisors in HA so you don't have to worry about it, but restarting your hypervisor means restarting your PF Sense. Well, let's show you have another system to send it to and then you can just migrate it over and that's definitely a possibility. Does your lab have its own neck gate? Yes. Yeah, we, so you think I have a lot of a stenology. Someone said that, I have a lot of neck gates too. I think you said, how many stenologies do you have? Also the question is how many neck gates do you have? We have a handful of them. We stock them for our clients, but I plug them in to make sure they're up to date. So there's right now, because I brought it home to do some testing with it. There's a 6100 sitting over there. LTS does LTS, we'll go with that. Virtual PF Sense for East West traffic in a virtual cluster. Absolutely, you can use it for that too. Playing and testing are the only times I would do it as a VM. Hey, I've had too many PCs around for that. It's just easy, it's not that expensive in a production environment, what it costs to run one. It's not the big expense, so just stick it hardware and be done with it. It's just more trouble, it's less trouble. I'm always looking for the least amount of trouble. Well, depends. But for most part, I'm usually looking for the least amount of trouble on these things. I should patch this. Should we just patch the server live? We can do that too. I don't think there's anything else running on this server. It does have an update. This update completely doesn't apply to me, but we can load it. This is the microcode update for Intel, and this is a Ryzen system. We were talking about patching the other day, and I gotta admit, patching has been super, super smooth on the whole, this way, patching is done is so smooth. And I'm gonna probably curse myself by saying that for XC P and G patching, but hey, why not? We'll do it on a live stream because you can't see patching smooth unless you actually patch something on a live stream where it's most likely to screw up. So make sure we got no running VMs. Just, it'll shut them down anyways, but I'll look for power state running. I got them all stopped. And we can just load these patches. I don't even know if we have to reboot for this patch. And there's two ways we can do this. I can log into it. Maybe I should do that. So you can click the button and patch, or you can go here and just hit install update. I guess we'll install the pool update. Automatically restart tool secretary host, restart VMs. Sure, we'll just do it on a live stream and see if we can make a liar out of Tom. What's the best way to, what's the best why to run Neckate and HA if you only have one interconnection? All you're protecting yourself from is the hardware failure if you run an HA. I mean, if you run a high availability, you're protecting yourself from the hardware failing. What's your risk for that? If you're running Neckate hardware, it fails so rarely that, yeah, I don't know. I don't really feel it's that big of a deal. It's a good to have, but it's not necessary for everyone. How quickly, how long can you tolerate being down? That's the question. And you decide if your downtime warrants buying two of them. It's just, it's called risk tolerance and budget. Budget's really what that's called. Do you have the budget to run two? Because if you have the budget for redundancy, always go with redundancy, but you don't always have the budget to buy two of the thing. Because while you're speculating if we should buy one of the things, you then gotta decide if you should buy two of the thing. We get hit by the latest Synology Patch that broke NFS in our production. So I don't know. I don't usually use Synology for NFS. I should probably test that. I was just loading the patches for Synology, but I don't really think we even have that many customers that do that. Hey, look, it's back. That didn't take long. Oh, it says I have to reboot it still. So it patched. So let's reboot. That's the ultimate test now, right? Isn't that we patched it? There's the CPU usage and a patch, but let's reboot it now. All right, that's restarting. Because it's not about the patch. It's about did the system fully cycle after a patch without going crazy or exploding. Oh, it's fixed now. So there's a, okay, there's a, it was a temporary bug. How hard is this done with one? Well, if you can start with one and add HA later, that's easy. It's, we've done in place conversions for clients. It's not like you really have to do much in terms of like, as long as you have a system, I should say that has enough ports because you want to have a sync port between them and that sync port should be dedicated. So as long as you have, let's say we have four ports on our system and you're not using all four because you're going, hey, I'm leaving one of these ports open so when I buy another one, I will sync them together. Then you're fine. Yeah. What I think, I think that what they were saying is they want to add an HA later. I recently set up VMs on two different hypervisors, EXSI and PROSMOX mainly for updating ability, volume protection. I have a Cisco router outside the firewalls with ISP connection. I mean, you can do all kinds of fun things. Have you messed around with the new Linux tools in Rust? You know, that's not my to-do list was to try them out. When this thing reboots, we will, we'll try that, but that hasn't rebooted yet. Following my strategy question, if I had some kind of update break on TrueNAS scale patch other fast rollbacks. Oh yeah, TrueNAS scale, TrueNAS in general, both scale and the core. Support the boot slices. And one of the things you may notice here, 2310, 2312. Yes, I installed 2310, but then reverted back to this. If I want to go back to the other one, I could just activate this one, but they support boot environments. This allows you to flip flop back and forth. The upgrade on this particular server, I will do a video as soon as I'm done migrating it. This server did not like the upgrade because the way my system is set up is incompatible with the new version of Kobia, the way I want to run it. I have a video upcoming on this. This is actually what I was working on is swapping all these servers because I'm moving everything to a new server. Let me log into it. So this server is running, still running 22.12.3, and this one is now running the newer 23.10. So this is Kobia. And I migrated all my data over to this one because there's no path. There's no path to upgrade my other one because of the way the encryption is set up. Looking to upgrade my network because I want to run Neck 8 and HA. I was going to buy one Neck 8 and set it up and then six months later later. Yeah, as long as you buy the same one, the important part is when you have the Neck 8 buy two of the same ones and you're fine. HA is easy with two of the same devices. HA is not impossible, but gonna be less fun to set up if you're using, if you're not in a, like if you have mismatch hardware, there's a hacky ways to make it work, but it's not an idea. By the way, the system came up. Oh, and so did all. I forgot I had a lot of these VMs set to auto start. So now all the things are auto starting. So some of the staff things are, so once again, I patched it live on a live stream. Yeah, I was gonna try it for boot. Boot environment is what makes that so easy. HA requires three public IPs. Well, yes, but, but you can make it work. There are guides, there are ways to get it working. You're gonna, you may even have to do some things manually, but yes, to do it properly through public IPs. I, we've seen people not have it set up like that. There's some guides on how to set it up without having all the public IPs. So there's ways to do it. It's just, I don't know if I'll do a video on it. There's documents on it though. Does XCVG have inherent issues running on Ryzen processors? No, all my production sufferings on Ryzen. So this is my lab stuff, which is the same host, but these are Ryzen, where's that? Ryzen 9 system, so works fine. Any recommended way to have Active Directory integrated in BPM and PF Sense for remote windows endpoints so it doesn't seem to work seamlessly as the separate app? It works fine if you know how to set it up. I, that's why I can describe it. I don't have any guides on it, but we set up a lot for people. So you just tie your open VPN to, it's not like I'll drop in Active Directory. You got to tie it to something like LDAP or Radius, but it can be done. We've actually set that up for a lot of people. I think there's a write up even on PF Sense, like on, and that gate has documentation, I believe in how to set that up. If you're looking for something that's like a drop in, I think on Tangle, you can just drop in your, it's been a while since I've used on Tangle, but in on Tangle, you could just drop in like your Active Directory connector, and they built an AD connector that automates it. It's less automated in PF Sense, but completely possible to do. You know, I think we actually set up one customer to authenticate against Google as well. You can tie it to the Google Cloud and have it authenticate users that way. Is Active Directory worth adding to my HomeLab network? Do you need it? Do you need user management? I do not ever plan to put Active Directory in my home network. I don't need it. I don't do, but my job doesn't require me to. There's, that's not where my expertise is. Like I know enough about Active Directory to service things, but I don't care to learn more than the basics that I know. But if your job, if your job was to understand group policies and understand the ins and outs of Active Directory, it's probably a good thing to have in your lab because you could do a lot of learning with it. So did that, but I was looking for it to work with local AD when the user signed in. Oh, for them to do that, OpenVPN is probably not the best VPN for that. Things like tail scale are probably better. The downside of using like tail scale is gonna be the users are always connected. But if that's what you're trying to do is always on VPN. OpenVPN is more of a, you chose to connect style VPN. Tail scale is a always on VPN. And if you want an always on VPN and that's what you're trying to make it do, then you can do that. There's actually a way to do it in OpenVPN too. You can force it to save all the credentials and have it log in on startup. But I don't know, is that, is it worth the security risk of it? Because the moment is the challenge here. Once you do that, if someone steals that information, they'll be able to grab and auto log in with the OpenVPN as well. So I like OpenVPN because it forces the user to type in a password to log into something versus if it's a save session and someone grabs the save session, they can then exfiltrate it. Yeah, there's definitely, if you're starting out now, definitely run 8.3. 8.3 works better with Ryzen's and 8.3 has better support for the Intel 226 drivers. Untangle got bought out, it's not really called Untangle anymore. Yes, it's still Untangle everywhere. They call it Arista Edge. So you're right, I know they call it Edge Threat Management. But everything about it still says Untangle. Like even so much of the dashboard and everything says Untangle, I think the documentation says Untangle still. Trying to find their, if they fixed any of this. This is in like right here. This is from Arista. It says Arista, but when it says Arista Untangle, but even the install guide hasn't been changed. Yeah, they, oh, they did the wiki at least, but even their wiki, here's all the screenshots that say Untangle. So it's Untangle to me still. It's gonna take them a long time to get that fixed. Shout out to Tom, started listening to SLR many years ago. Glad to see you're still doing well, and the live show's awesome. Yeah, because the Sophos thing used to be a stereo desktop. FreePBX is dying, that's all there is to it. FreePBX is dying a slow death. I don't think it's long for this world. I don't think they care, and they won't release it to someone else to update. We've gotten away from it completely. It's just too much trouble to support and very much a security risk because they aren't patching the flaws very well at all. So it's a security problem. It's out of date, and it's not getting any love to get it up to date. So I have an older two-core machine with hyperthreading. Can I sell a hypervisor and three or four VMs? You're gonna be pretty limited on that with only a two-core system. Will it work? Yes, will it work well? Probably not. That's the downside. Functioning and functioning well, all depends on your workloads. And I bring that up because I might retire the system. I don't know what to do with it if I retire it, but it might be reaching, I will use the drives in it because the drives are fine. It's not the drives that are the problem. But I want, well, let's look this up real quick. I have a system with eight gigs of RAM here, and it runs, I need to update to the newest version, so feel free to call me out on not being the latest, but I'm not using any shares on it. All this is is a storage server, and it just holds data. And it's only a two-core system, so it's running a Intel Atom, what is this thing? Let me pull it up on CPU mark. It's just a sad processor. I've had it for years. This machine has been running forever. And I'm like, yeah, you should probably do something with it, but here's what it scores. I mean, look at this. This is a sad CPU score, but it works as a storage server. It's just painfully slow. There's nothing else I can do about it other than say, it's really, really painfully slow. I was wrong, yeah, PBX, not so good, but 3CX is pretty good, so use it. The CEO of 3CX is not a pleasant person. He's just kinda, that whole breach they had, man, what a series of dumb that was going on over there. Their breach earlier sure was a mess. Hello from Australia, Sophia. So glad to finally get you online for a stream, rebuilding my PF sense after a boot failure. Hey, good luck with that. Sorry, I'm yawning a little bit. Rebuilding after a boot failure, that's definitely a lot of fun. I've had to do that before, but people always call us at their worst days. The one redeeming quality of this particular processor though is the fact that it's only used in eight watts. So for a storage server, it works. Yeah, John Hammond I think did a good, did some good coverage of that. You know, I should go to, and while we're playing around with things, I haven't tried loading these yet. So someone had asked earlier about the new tools for running guest utilities. So they have the install right here. So I can always go in and install it on that server we were playing with earlier. Let's see how they work. I'm firing up the server and we'll do this. How many drives are in that storage server? Well, let me pull that word out. Too many tabs again. There we go. This has only four drives in it. It's got about 20, 30 terabytes of data. 30 terabytes I think it was. Yes, I'm still running Papa West. A few people have asked me that. Papa West works great. All MVME home NAS. Yeah, probably not needed. But let's load these rust drivers. Whoops, I fired up the wrong server. Actually started my Windows server. I'll leave it running so I get some updates. This is the server I wanted to fire up. What would I do with it? I don't know what I would do with it. It comes down to what project do you wanna do? That's my problem. I usually have too many projects going on. Figuring out how I wanna test all these things is always challenging. But let's load some drivers on this. So I'm waiting for the network to start up. Yay. But I actually, I wanna go grab a drink. So what I'll do is go grab something here in a second. My protect tele. I have a hard time saying that word. I always wanna say, well, I say protect. It's protect Lee. Protect Lee PSense also died once the replacement protect Lee device arrived. Resurrected fig was a breeze. Although my old one was one gig replacement is two and a half gig. Yeah, most, a lot of the things are shipping over the two and a half gig now. The old machine uses 25 watts. I wanna replace it with a Dell R420 that draws 100 watts running PF sense. I put the hypervisor on 2.7 pi whole and some all the internet things. Yeah, it's the thing is just a lot of figuring out the wattage is challenging because it's becoming a bigger and bigger deal for sure. Lining up interfaces and PF sense is actually pretty easy to do. But I'm going to go grab another drink because I'm out of a drink and my mouth is getting dry. Also have a little bit of water left. I have a thing that spins that you can watch while I go do that. So I'll be back. It's the I'll be back things. I'll answer this paid question first. Thanks for all your XCB and G videos up to a bunch of migrating my clouds from over to XCB. That is awesome. Really, really happy to hear more people using it. I think it's just an awesome product. More Jack. Yeah, Jack will help. It'll help me untwist my tongue if you will so I can say words better and more concisely. That's the goal. Intel N195 CPUs are nice little bees. Yeah, there's a lot of these newer small CPUs. I mean, I'm excited. I'll be reviewing this. This is the next thing I got to test and Patrick from serve the home has already tested it. This is the R86. If you type in R86, serve the home you'll find videos on it that he's done. But I think these low-powered devices are just, they're pretty cool. Yeah, say, protectly 10 times real fast. I can barely get it out twice in one sentence. So 10 times real fast, not happening, not happening. But let me play my little, where'd it go? Be right back. So I'll be right back in all the comments. Update the data in the browser. Oh, I have to re-rendered a video to do that. Yes, thank you for your XCP and G content. We're replacing two VMware clusters with XCP and G. Best prize we can actually get a human on the phone for support at VATES. Yes, I have no opinions on fiber store gear. I haven't used it, so no opinions. How is the US the third most attacked? I don't know. That's all from Kaspersky, I think. Can you write down the name of the mini PC in chat? I think someone answered it, but I'll actually just pull up the, it's the R86, two and a half gig and 10 gig networking. I don't know if we're gonna update the Unify Excel sheet or not. There's too much work, so I might remove it rather than update it. It's just too much time and I don't have enough people to pay just to sit and update that sheet. I wish Unify was more clear on their stuff, but yeah, that's definitely a challenge of keeping that up to date. Like it started out as a good idea and just fell apart from there. We were talking about though, do, do, do, doing this. So let me switch back over to the terminal, share the other terminal, present, then I can call. Now I have the latest utilities on this. See if that does anything. Couldn't that sheet be maintained through public repos? That's the problem. Unify doesn't have this information. Like you have to pull it from everywhere to get this information out there. It's like you dig around to find it and why Unify themselves doesn't have a clear, concise sheet for all their stuff is beyond me. Like that would solve it, but that's the problem. You have to go find it on Unify's stuff. So there was the whole install process I showed. I will present, share screen, actually we'll restart it just so we rebooted this machine, make sure everything's cleared out. What is the name of the Apple called classes? The package name? I'm missing some context here. Ooh, look at this. Management detected. So it does detect it. We're running on the latest version. Neat. I don't know what else it gives me. I haven't really dug through all the features in it. I just was loading it to load it. The thing I heard someone say was it switches faster for this. So let's go ahead and, how fast does it switch? Ooh, that was fast. So it changes IPs really fast. Actually, it's accumulating them at the moment. Find another VLAN to send it to, send it to this VLAN. Okay, I think I found a bug. We have a lot of IPs now. How long before the IPs disappear? So we get the new IP immediately, but the old ones are still showing up. I'll show this to Oliver. Say it works, but also this. So that's the thing. Now I have all the IPs. I'll reboot real quick. That'll make them all go away. The new Unify site is so much harder to find info on them. Then yeah, and this is the problem. Like I said, when we were doing the spreadsheet, we started putting together to make sense of it all, but getting that data is spending a lot of time on the Unify site to try to make the data in one place. It's a UI bug. I like to play on words for that. Yes, it's a UI bug. Yeah, if you reboot all these, go back to normal. But if you switch VLANs, how long do they stay forever? I don't know, that's interesting to me. Imagine if I restarted the service they would, but so there's definitely, I mean, they're bugs that gotta be fixed. You cannot post links here. Yeah, YouTube bans links because of spammers and scammers. Oh, speaking of that, I don't know, can I share this? Yes, I can. I finally added this because people were driving me nuts. I put a thing on here though that says denied because people keep asking about trying to use those stupid anonymous email services. Yeah, I'm just denying all those now. Too much spam. Like I want people to be able to do things privately, but I haven't found the balance between stopping the people who post garbage links on my site to stupid things and allowing people to, you just have to use your email address when you're signing up now. It's been one of those things like I put it, I put it on there. Just quit using all those different anonymous email pass mail and there's a bunch of them out there, but yeah, someone got mad at me and DM me on Twitter that they said, I don't care about privacy. I'm like, solve the spam problem for me. I'll respect your, I don't care if you use anonymous mailer but the spammers use them too. So I don't have a solution. That's one thing I give VATES all over the team, listen to users. They're implementing some recommendations based on issues we had, which is reassuring. They're very much listened to the users. So yeah, very engaged with the community. Itching for the new V7 XOA UI, me too. Speaking of spreadsheet, Tivine 6 was speed test plugin for PF Sense using CRON to get your log results. Nope, never tried it. Not something I really, I don't do regular speed tests. So they're not something I really care about. I only care when there's a problem and I don't do regular ones to make sure that I'm getting whatever. And I probably wouldn't use PF Sense for it. I would, if I were to do it, there's command line utilities that will run speed tests. Here at Availability at Espom, software wheelchairs, any thoughts on them becoming more of a security methodology standard? It's a pipe dream, I feel it's unfortunate. I wish, I wish they were a realistic solution, but they're a very difficult solution. I'm all for them, but I know the challenges that come with them. And modern software development sucks. There's so many programmers today, and this is a discussion that came up when the WebP vulnerability came up. There were so many places you found WebP that it shouldn't have been. There's no path to code execution. So it wasn't really a vulnerability, but there was all these people who just baked in WebP with everything because they just threw in every dependency. And I think that's gonna be the problem with software build materials. You're like, oh, look, this software has a dependency that's got a vulnerability in it, but they don't use the dependency. They included the dependency, but don't use the dependency. Yeah, it's a pain. I do like the Traverse City Whiskey. They make excellent stuff. I definitely thumbs up for Traverse City Whiskey. Been using Docker packages that run a speed test, set a frequency, been helpful when having internet issues, it's not that often. Yeah, if you're having an issue, maybe, but I wouldn't run them all the time. You just waste a lot of bandwidth just to constantly test it. S-bombs won't catch on until companies won't have some code that Bob's nephew wrote in 1997. Oh, but it's much worse than that. We're talking about modern products that we found that have all kinds of garbage baked into them that they don't need for the product. They've just included entire large frameworks that they didn't need, especially with all the stuff that's built on Electron. So the problem isn't even the old software. The problem is the new software too and the way they develop it. It's all the dependencies. You look at something like Node.js or some of those, a lot of dependencies there. Do you start listing all of them? Is it a tenable thing to include that in your S-bom and actually think it's effective? I don't know. It's not gonna be easy. I'm all for it, but we have to look at the ecosystem of how things are done. So yeah, I'm a programmer and I totally agree with you on that. I'm assuming you're talking about the challenge with the S-bomb. This is actually what's so interesting when I've talked to developers that work at NetGate. The NetGate developers practice principles of least privilege, this wonderful security idea that's been around for a long time. You'll find people ask, well, how did PF Sense go for so long without a security vulnerability? How do they manage that? Well, they don't throw everything in. They don't throw everything that's available in BSD into PF Sense. They go, what does PF Sense need to run? And then they go, at compile time, because they're building this, what do we need to include in our compile? Okay, that's it. What do we need? And we build from there, not go, hey, grab free BSD and build. Well, we don't really need all these other features. Ah, just get them all. That way, if we ever have it, we don't have to sort out dependency problems that way. We'll just have all the dependencies in here, even the ones we're not using. And, hey, you have a good night too, Stephen. So have a good evening, because I'm not going to get another glass of whiskey because some people may have noticed me yawning. So of note, I'm gonna post this to Oliver in the forums. I'm not gonna do it tonight. I'm gonna do it tomorrow. It's been about five or six minutes. Those IPs are still there. So good news, it switches right away. Bad news, it stays. So when you switch it, it stays where you left it. We'll put it back at the lab one. If we put it back at lab, does the other one disappear? Nope. Oh, this is fun. We got two of them now. The kid's better, but we can just reboot and they go away. I'm laughing at this. I'm switching VLANs. I can guarantee none of these are pingable. What I'll do is, we'll do this again. I rebooted it. So we'll get an IP address here. It does get the IP address faster. So we can say IPA, and we'll see the, there's the IP address that we have on here. So let's go ahead and switch this. We'll put it on this network. Go back over to council. Yep, the IP address changed. So now we have the 100 address on here. I know it might be kind of hard to see when we zoom in a little bit. So now we got, we switched addresses. So I can guarantee it's not pingable, but the system is still holding on to them. That's all. Thank you for your HEA proxy video. P.F. Sense helped me out today. Awesome. Glad to get more people in it. Does it actually have those IPs? Yeah, these are the IPs it's getting. It's just not releasing them in the UI. It's a UI bug. They're being released, as you can see. Here's the IP address. Here's the IP address here. So it's definitely switching the IPs. Matter of fact, we can switch it back. We'll go back over here, go to network. I'll put it back in the lab. So we're back on the lab network. And we go, and we're back on that 135 address. So it's switching the IPs perfectly fine. Does it update the Windows driver in well next CPG or have you updated that? No, I haven't mess with the Windows driver. Page refresh clear of them? No, it does not. Nope. The pages are dynamic. Matter of fact, if you wanna see something kind of neat. So what I'm gonna do here, this is the window I'm sharing with you. I'm gonna open up another window as another user. The way the page refreshes work, do you notice how I can change them from another user that I just logged into over here. And they change dynamically. I don't have to refresh a page or anything. It's fine. Yeah, restarting the guest tools will definitely fix this. So I know restarting the guest tools will fix the problem, but you shouldn't have to restart the guest tools. I've been rebooting the server because I'm lazy and I don't know how to type in there. But that's why it's release candidate. This is how the process works. There's a post and a forum. We go in the forum, we set the things up. We talk about the problems that do or don't work. And then they find the bugs and then they fixed them. And as a matter of fact, let's see if someone does this. Can migrate, can snapshot, can reboot, cool. So I will add a comment down to the bottom of this to tell them the little problem I'm running into. That's all, it's just, this is how we iterate on things and make them better. And by the way, this is not like, not everybody's moving these things around between different places. So this is an uncommon use case. This is a Tom use case where I move things around on my lab all the time. This is not a everybody use case. So that's for sure. Just uses Citrix ones for right now, the Citrix ones are kind of what I've been using for my Windows stuff. I can go here. So this right here is my Windows one. And it just has a Citrix tools in it. Oh, and some more updates to load. So you have loaded the Citrix tools right here for my Windows VM. Hyper-V landing, absolutely, that's the whole thing. Good night, John, you have a wonderful evening. But I got Windows updates now. Update and restart. Microsoft will never do F-spom. There's at least one company that is going to say no. It just isn't going to happen. I would not expect Microsoft to do any of that. You know, as fast as this system is Windows, man, can bring it to its knees for speed. It's like, whatever Windows updates does, it's just never fast enough. I don't even know how fast, how much, it's not pulling too much on the disc. Microsoft's all about the F-bomb. You got that right. You nailed it there. They're not doing S-bomb. They're busy doing F-bombs. Well, we are at least, every time we talk about Microsoft. Windows updates, 30% complete. Don't turn off your computer. Yeah, I spend some time in the XTP and G forums. I try to go here at least once a day to talk to people, things like that. You do not need a Citrix account to get the Citrix tools. They're a free download. They used to require an account. I forget where, there's a link posted I can't remember what it is. There's a Citrix download link or you can just download the tools. It's weird because you would assume, if you search them, they put them behind a paywall. But if you go to the Citrix, they have like a download page where they're not behind a paywall. I just can't remember where those are. I'm gonna find it real quick. But there's a page that doesn't require a download where you can just grab all the tools. Yeah, this is the page, I'm on the page. This is the one you usually land on because this is the first Google search. There's another one, though. It's in the forums where you don't have to do it. It's stupid because they've tried to like, I don't know, I don't like Citrix or an awful company. I know if you look in here, it's in here somewhere. There we go. This site, this site has them for free. But if you search, you land on the paywall site or not paywall, the stupid login you have to create. So I just shared the link to it. This is where you can get them. It's just zen-server.com slash downloads. You can download the stupid drivers. I don't know why they did this. There we go. This is stuck. I can't get the comment to go away. Hold on, I'll reload the page. Or not, I think Chrome has broke. There we go. Turns out StreamYard had some issues. My internet didn't go out. Just I couldn't do anything with StreamYard. It got stuck. Yeah, actually. Yep, so strange. Now it's working. StreamYard just like stopped for a moment. StreamYard is a tool I use to do these broadcasts. It just came to a halt. Now it's working fine. So weird. Strange things happen. Don't know what causes that. But hey, at least I shared the Citrix downloads for people who were looking for it. They're in the forums, like I said. So what made me pick discourse over others? I could self-host it and it seemed easy enough to set up. I didn't really have any deeper thoughts beyond that. Yeah, the, let's see. I'll pull up my forums real quick. It's discourse just works well. It's easy. And I don't know. The self-hosting makes it pretty pain-free to do too. It was a matter of time before Citrix or Blocking Bates were making, no, it's not the opposite. They're actually cooperating more. Citrix doesn't really, Citrix isn't really pushing their hypervisor as much anymore. And most of the people who run Citrix also run XCPNG. So they've kind of become this uneasy relationship. So I don't think it's a, they're not, they don't really have any control over Bates. The only thing Bates doesn't really do is bother rating the Windows drivers right now. So they're kind of relying on Citrix for that. But that's it, and that's not much. Yeah, discourse is just solid. It has been such a good platform. Like I really, really like it. And let me see if I can pull this up real quick. That doesn't mean, I always make sure nothing's showing in the admin panel. But when you start looking at the stats that I have on here, there we go. I mean, it's just wild. We'll do quarterly. There was a lot going on in October. So we had 4,000 logged in users. Let me make this bigger. I think it'll, yeah. 4,000 logged in users, 127,000 anonymous users, and 38,000 hits from crawlers. And so far here in, like the Lexus is quarterly. So yeah, the stats are pretty good. I mean, I'm happy with the engagement I get with my forums. And it's a lot of, the SEO is really good because I try to push people constantly to ask the questions in my forums. Do you really like to DM me questions? And I'm like, I just don't have the time to answer all the DMs. It's just not something I can do. Especially when you talk about the thousands of people asking the same question. So by the forums, I'm able to post the answer. So when people search for the question, the problem they're having with something, they can find the answer in the forums. So that's one of the reasons I do it. How many AIs am I training? I have no idea. Probably a lot of them. Maybe I'll dig into that to see if it tells me it's an AI system that's crawling it. Which I'm sure it is. I'm guessing this is on Linode or something. How big of an instance do you have to use a forum this big? It's actually a really small instance. Let me see if I can log into it real quick and show you. Well, I'll just tell you the stats for what it is. This is a dual core system with a dual core and how much RAM is in here? Four gigs of RAM. It really doesn't take much. That's what blows my mind is how little it takes to run this. It's all just a series of Docker containers. So yeah, a small dual core system is enough to keep it all running. Favorite method of, I have no favorite method because I hate dusty and cleaning stuff. But mostly I just blow it out with a, you know, here. I think everyone uses this, right? The same one. I don't know about favorite method, but it's, all of us do this, right? Matter of fact, let's bear blowing the lens off real quick. There we go. I've now dusted the lens. Yeah, no, I'm not letting people upload files. Are your public sites proxy or direct type here or no web servers? It depends. The forums is direct. I don't have a proxy in front of it. I might switch it though. Yeah, Mortem from my playhouse was frustrated with Citrix. He didn't say if he needed any super exclusive things only Citrix provides. So maybe XCPNG and VH are on this list of future options. Yeah. Leaf blower, I have a compressor for big things, but leaf blower will work too. We can, that's tenable. I tell people not to post screenshots and stuff like that is often that's been, like just post the text to what you want. 90, 99% of what's in my forums is text. The problem is, and I tell people is when you start posting screenshots, I mean storage, I have a lot of it so I can easily up the storage if I need to. But the bigger challenge really comes down to dealing with the fact that that's not indexed very well for people to find the problem. So posting screenshots of it, just explain things better. Put text in there, post config files. That's a way better way to post in forums, always. Not just mine, all forums. I've debated about stopping people from uploading images so it forces them to stop sharing so many screenshots of silly things. Like someone shared the other day some screenshots and I'm like, this is not even helpful. You're just taking blurry pictures with your phone to show me an error message. Like just type the error message. Matter of fact, you're taking a blurry picture of your phone from your web browser. Just paste that error message and then tell me, what does this error message mean? Matter of fact, if you type that error message into Google, you'll find the answer, it's the first result. Yeah, that's the thing, I'm so close to just banning image posting. It's just, it's such a waste. It doesn't help anyone. It makes it harder for me, especially because more people are like, hold on, let me use my phone. I mean, someone took a webpage, like it's a webpage. You're taking a photo of a webpage. Just copy the error message in a webpage and paste it in as text. It'll help you. Matter of fact, if they would have pasted that into the search engine, they would have found the answer right at the top to what they were trying to do. Yeah, what if I take your picture of my text? Yeah. Any update on the Super Micro GPU? I don't know when we're delivering, I gotta figure out when we're delivering it. I gotta go back down to Toledo and finish filming it. It's still in the office. So no update yet, because it didn't get delivered yet. I don't know when it gets delivered. I think next week I'll do that. Yes, lots of devices have OCR built in, which is also amazing. You can take your phone and take a picture and grab text out of the picture and then take the text and put it into a forum or Google. I almost like, I don't wanna go this far, but part of me you wanna ask you sometimes, when you're posting in my forums, did you at least try posting in Google first or DuckDuckGo to see if that problem? Cause some people ask, I've seen people who take the time to write things. If you look around, you'll see where it says author, remove, post. It's not me being a smart answer, I reply to them, but I'm like, the answer to your question was the first search result of Google. Like what you typed, you could have typed less in the Google and got the first search result to exactly what you were looking for. You know, I'm never harsh to people. I encourage people to learn, but I also like, man, just like Google a couple of things before you do it. I also wanna do a whole basic write up. I'm modifying things slowly in the forums, but one of the things I think I need to do is like an explainer, how to write a good forum post because that is a real challenge for some people is when they write forum posts that don't help a lot. They're so unclear about what their goal is. I always say, I don't understand your ask. Cause that's sometimes I reply that way. Like I don't know what you, I don't understand your goal. I don't understand your ask. And you know, it no work is kind of like, I mean, I usually reply to those people. Hey, welcome to the forums. What don't work? And what are you trying to do? That's the challenge. Have chatGPT evaluate new help wanted posts? Yes. That's actually a new feature that came with the latest update is the ability to use my chatGPT API. Now I wanna train chatGPT on my forums because there's thousands of posts in my forums. So if I can then index those thousands of posts, then I can figure out like, hey, you know, how can we, you know, how can we use those thousands of posts I have to start the answer to the question better each time? It's a thought. It's a thought. It's a maybe thought. Where is, I'm trying to see like activity wise summary. There we go. Like I have 5,000 posts created, 32,000 read. I have 2.3,000 hearts received for my replies. I've done a post. So yes, there's a lot going on here. I've done all this. So why not index it and see what we can do? It doesn't work. But yeah, it's, you know, I'm assuming my forums are generally gonna be more technical people. So when people start up with the most basic, it don't work. And I don't even know what the goal is. You know, that's why I think like, what are you trying to do? Cause sometimes like, hey, I can't get this working or PF sense doesn't work. Well, what, that doesn't help me. PF sense doesn't work. I want to guide you along, but I don't know what it doesn't work means. You can't load it. You have trouble loading it. You loaded it and it doesn't route traffic. It loaded, but doesn't have an IP address. Like you got to give me a couple of clues here. I kind of, I'm trying to figure this out. Or when people tell me things are slow. Well, I tried to XTPNG, but it was slow. What was slow? The processor, the 10 year old computer you loaded it on gonna need some context here. I'm always kind to the people in the forums. You can look through my poster all public, but there is a certain level of like the back and forth. I'm like, I just don't understand what you're looking for. But that's life. Yeah. The most, what software are you? Discourse is the name of the software I use. Disc, not discord, discourse. The danger of chat GP, Jesus that humans still have the ability to answer. Yes. That's for sure. That is for sure. Well, I am sinking in my chair because I'm getting tired. So I think I will wander off and watch some TV and then fall asleep. That's a, well, I watched them you too. I say watch TV. So they have VM tools for Linux. I don't know when they're gonna get them for Windows, but they got the Linux ones. As pointed out just a little bit earlier, and I've probably lost the post, you can use the Citrix tools at zenserver.com slash download. So do you think VM mug is worth it? Well, here's the thing. When it comes to VMware, if you have to support this, like your task, your job is understanding VMware, then yeah, it's probably good to know if your job is not supporting VMware, then why use VM mug? Why use their ecosystem if it's just for your own use? Unless you really like it and like paying the money and that's fine too. That's a valid answer. You're used to the environment. You don't wanna put the time in to learn something else. So perfect to use that one. But if your job isn't to use it and you're just not more comfortable with that interface or not willing to learn either Proxmox or XCPNG, then I wouldn't spend the money on VM mug. Converting all my VMs from Proxmox XCPNG wish you luck. Well, I do wish you luck. I hope you get them all converted. Clonezilla is your friend for moving things from where they are to where you want them to be. That is a great tool I've done videos on for that exact thing. But I'll stop this here. Thanks everyone for joining. Thanks everyone for hanging out with Tom while he kind of goofed and riffed on servers. Hopefully I answered plenty of questions and it's always great engaging with the community. I will see you next time for sure on Thursday. Well, actually it's turkey day. I'll probably do a morning or something. I don't wanna take away from people's turkey day. So I'll figure out what I'm gonna do for vlog turkey day. I don't know what to do there. I'll figure out vlog turkey day because that's the next live stream I'm gonna do. All right everyone and thanks.