 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus TV Africa time for us to check out the big stories on our national dailies I'll start off with the daily independent newspaper this morning and to make sense of all of this We do have an analyst G. Day Johnson joining us to help us understand all of the stories on the front pages of a national dailies Morning Julia Johnson. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning to what is Friday? All right, so I sort of with the daily independent newspaper this morning on The front page of the daily independence the board caption reads our engagement with iPop Bandit not biased That's what the military is quoted to say our engagement with iPop and bandits not biased Military is quoted to say and you find details on page 28 Confirms death of ruthless ice-whop leader al-Banawee That's the first rider you find another rider says says terrorists not infiltrating the FCT. That's a booger Six remaining to Cannogets delivered September 28 And so we're looking at 12 and we hope that that helps with the fight against Insurgency moving away from that another bold story says 2023 presidency No vacancy wait till 2031 pandeath tells nothing politicians. I'm sure that's going to be you know a response to that particular one 2022 budget reps raise concern over Naira devaluation It's also on the top page of the daily independent You find that on page 28 to be precise past budget for second reading Okay, that's what you find away from that another interesting headline read a number of gubbler elections IGP orders deployment of 34,587 policemen three helicopters and dogs Well, let's see how things actually pans out on the 6th of November Underneath you find Supreme Court of Femme's soludo as ABGA candidates and that's it also You have several riders. I'm sure you want to check that out on page two of the daily independent newspaper Now see looking at the front page of the daily independent just before we move away quickly US sends fresh 3,577,860 COVID-19 vaccine doses to Nigeria. It's on page 28 And you also have a Siemens your edges Nigeria's sub-national so think alike or don't think alike. I beg your pardon NCC says 5g deployment 97% ready Federal government acts TV station to feature sign language and Interpreters and that's on page 29. Well, that's so much we can take on the daily independent newspaper all right over now to the punch newspapers and Starting with the PDP's chairmanship it says I use emergence as chair North gets PDP's nod to contest 2023 Presidency it was put in black and white the North Central could contest says Barajir North can't produce president Chairman same time says George Also, we're set to auction spectrum for 5g deployment as the NCC National Assembly proposes December 15th for the for budget passage threatens MDA's and also senior staff caution federal government on unvaccinated workers ban government plans mass vaccination still on the punch this morning 88704 cholera or contract cholera 3208 die I need vaccine scarcity and And Ushin Bajo urges creativity by states on revenue generation Buhari once took part in protests shouldn't disrupt NSA says Femme Falono and force headquarters three choppers 34,587 cops to police anambra governorship election. I'll take that again force headquarters three choppers and 34,587 cops to police anambra governorship election Ogumoto is to hospitalize after checkpoint shooting cop arrested Military expects more to kind of jets October 28th says bandits are fleeing the Northwest and Also deputy vice-chancellor at Debo Alley emerges in the UI new VC. Those are the ones on the punch this morning All right away from the punch news week of this morning Let's check out the leadership newspaper and the board caption reads Rekatering slows down six million mass metering project. That's the board caption on the leadership newspaper Details available on page four Only 750,000 meters deployed one year after takeoff Darkness looms as gas produces threatened to cut supply. It's also on page four Presidency wait till 2031 Panda tells nothingness Northerness and that's what you find on That's on page 19 Away from that you have the PDP chairmanship. Are you emerges? Nothing consensus? Candidate I like to take that again PDP chairmanship. Are you emerges northern? Consensus candidate. It's on page four Anambra pose Supreme Court of Femme soludo as Abga candidate Military confirms death of I so a bleeder That's also on page five It's dominating all of the front pages of a national dailies That's the much we can take on the leadership newspaper this morning and finally on the daily trust Elrify as metropolitan authorities stare controversy Look at government areas power You're soft to co-fund new tears PDP says its duplication of responsibility Lawyers vary And also on the daily trust Presidency wait till 2031 pandef tells northerners don't threaten us says the NEF APC Congress Ganduja tackles Chakaral and others over petition We can also find on the daily trust newspapers Reps summon CBN finance ministry over stalled 3.1 billion dollars e-customs projects Buhari six UNDPs intervention to resettle IDPs and PDP chair. How are you emerged consensus candidate? One month after daily trust report military confirms I swap leader dead Judy Johnson. Good morning. Once again. Thanks for joining us All right, so I want us to start with the story that I took on the Anambra elections where it says three helicopters 34,587 cops to police an embryo governorship election. Let's get your thoughts on that first before we move on But that's the trend when election is coming. We know that's when we know that the IGP is active with the deployment of is Then the resources to protect lives on property. You begin to wonder if and while we're young Used to see police helicopter doing surveillance all value guns But we really hear about police helicopters during election, but the glally doing this of cycle election That's when the police will mobilize the personnel to cover the whole of an umbrella state Just imagine if this is having used Prior to the election Some of the security challenges you have in the southeast and some of the backlash the military are getting in terms of the treatment of the locals and then the comparison of Relating that to the story that the media had to come up with a statement to say that the engagement with high pub and bounty Are not are not biased. So I just wonder that we could have such security and then when election comes to mobilize them Under normal circumstances to find each other to mobilize the men and women And officers of the Nigerian police to provide security. So it's it's true to type Basically, there's a budget for it A base just follow the money The numbers you are seeing has to also do with resources This is will be allocated for each of the police officers that are localized And allowances Hopefully will be paid to them and hopefully they will get the allowance But it's true to type when election is coming to here 60,000 70,000 80,000 three helicopters Dogs all of these will be released and then you wonder why can't we do this? Why can't this just be the norm in terms of providing security for this for this nation? So for me, I'm not I'm not surprised when Just look at the media headlines of newspaper preceding elections and you see that this is the consistent pattern And that's you we have been in that does not stop About less when we're up in the election in the past. Hopefully we'll pay to now up on this team around Or people snatching ballot boxes and the rest of it too Let's just let's just hope I don't want to be an it is that we should take three out of it But let's just hope because Nigerians are the most careful set of people today. They will go to mosques tomorrow Tomorrow and Sunday they will go to church if it is by three all of our problems should be solved but Everyone does well themselves And if we don't take decisive action as a there's no amount of prayer we can pray that can solve the problem But I think we should be the norm when it comes to deployment of security. They don't have to be tied to election alone Okay, still on that particular Issue that's been raised on the dailies this morning Do you think that that's going to encourage participation in the election the fact that You know the presence of security is going to be on the high Do you think that will actually encourage the people to come out to cast their vote? Or you think that that might just the discourage them, you know Cost fear looking at all of the security concerns in the southeastern region Well, the election actually double sided Is using double edged um Position that were found ourselves I have argued over time that our election is about militarized by the time you wake up in the morning of the election It's like the nation is under siege the atmosphere extends actually Um in the night preceding the election You find it to practically difficult for you to move and then if you are if you are in my generation And you you you witnessed a military intervention the various military coups In the morning of the night preceding elections and the morning of elections Look like change of government during military regime is over militarized But it's a discourage these people from coming out because this is morbid fear You just see the atmosphere you watch election in other times in other society Elections that you are celebrating everybody goes about their normal businesses nothing Um nothing So it doesn't look like the nation is under siege and we have argued that one why can't we have elections during the week And that people can go to work and then Cast their ballots before they go to work and come back But that's the way we do things and for me, I agree with you it creates fear it creates fear Isn't it the bold Ones that actually um can go out and vote for for the election and the only of it is that That's why this every deployment of security We still have challenges with violence elections remark with violence with ballot bus snatching and At the end of the day when you even have that security Which will have been in the night of the election to protect Because to protect the the integrity of the election which has to do with the announcement of result In most cases most of these military people will have you have gone back to their Police and rest of you will have gone back to their base. You access every question Why will deploy custom deploy immigration deploy all of these agencies? That's the police we have read if you participate in the election And the ncdc people will be deployed and then you have to say what is custom? What is immigration? What is doing doing the code doing concerning the election? But that is the way it is and that is what we have found ourselves. What it actually affects Let me just quickly tie that to the story of The emergence of say you do the court Case and the supreme court decision and I think this is the way we should go We should get judgment pre-election matters should be treated Before the election now everybody can go to bed. Everybody is sure that the ananda Um The ananda electorates are not confused as to whether abg has to candidate or not the issue of PDP has been resolved with the candidate job Um Issue is up that of abg has been resolved and I think this is the way we should go I think the supreme court should be commanded for this and state that this is the election material Issues are treated and then we know the candidate before the election people actually know who they are voting for In the morning of the election which preceding the election. I mean we say welcome develop All right, um also speak now since we started the conversation talking about the police Let's now move, uh, you know still talking about the police, uh to reactions to the um Seeming, you know and sars memorial and of course the nindian and lego state governments The lego state commission of police also reactions to it It's in the news this morning on the punch from femi phalan or saying that president mohammed warri protested in nigeria and carried out or participated in protests and so Should allow the nsars protesters to you know carry out their memorial if they choose to Here in lego so across the country Share your thoughts on that one. I've heard Maki mo dumosu here in lego state say that they would not allow any form of protesting in lego's Um to of course like they always say avoid a repeat of what happened last year The majority will always have their Say We that and the minority must have their state The the expression of divergent opinion and them In it's is a critical element for for for the polity in democracy Everyone has a right. I have a right. It's my fundamental right to protest to protest About what government is doing that I feel I don't Um, I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't like and but in the course of that protest My my my right was not tranquil or not that was right. It was on policy What the police should do when there is protest is even to protect those that are protesting so that Um Some unscrupulous Elements do not manipulate the process what we have had In angina Is that in the course of the protest the vision of the protest is hijacked by some unscrupulous Elements that lead to vandalism and the rest of it But don't also forget that the the state authorities have a rule to play. What do I mean? That's that's That's the security. We shouldn't be here. He's used from security agencies when it comes to protest What is the what is the What is the opinion the views of legal state government itself that the police commissioner works on that with when it comes to To test is a key component part of democracy That it's it's you can't stop it. It's a fundamental human is a fundamental human rights But what do we have we have a situation whereby the police structure is centralized control for mabuja Even the police commissioner himself cannot cannot take decision on his own He has to he has to get directive from from from mabuja But if the police commissioner is responsible to the governor of the state Then the governor of the state cannot control over that for me. I don't think anybody Under the conscience of nigeria in a democracy can stop can stop protest or rally But that rally must not lead to violence That's where the police comes in to ensure that there's maintenance of law and order and The law just and if you see the aftermath of Ends us if you have any security agencies in ligos You'll be much more concerned because there are vandalization destruction of lives And popty so as a result of that you want to prevent that however For me and what is normal globally is for the police to provide protection for people that want to protest And not to stifle protest unlike if every father not said where he was part of the protest in abuja There was nothing that happened to him. I remember the the the same Nigerian protest That happened majority of the people in government to be participated in process and why why why are they state of decent Listen this part of democracy. You must tolerate opposing views Okay, let's quickly look at the daily independent newspaper this morning the board caption carries the story where the military is clarifying the fact that they are engagement with ipop And the bandits has no sentiment and that that's because over time Some paths. I mean some quarters actually believe that the military is Is more like a witch hunt. So, uh, there's a witch hunt On this set of people. That's the ipop, but that's one and the other one is also the fact that Yes, they are saying that the eyesop leader al-banawi is dead. What do you make of a one of this? Well, it's it's clear the way Bandits have been treated In Nigeria and the way People calling for self agitation have been treated And the way people that have identified with self determination Have been treated while bandits and bokeh waram Have been core repentant and they are gathered together and They are welcome And um, there's a consignatory approach You see that The approach towards ipop and particularly what cuts the eye of most people is even people calling for self-determination Colors to represent The nation that they believe they should belong to Is that the right of self-determination is a fundamental human right Even the military so for the military to come out to see that you know that the military is Is facing A perceptual problem is for is facing an image problem. And that's why they are trying to we are not today But it's clear everybody can see it's in the public domain It is in the public domain place the the issue of that nollywood actor That was that was arrested the way was treated and see the way Bandits have been treated and You begin to wonder Do we have to approach to dealing with issues in this country? Are there two laws made from? Is it an animal farm country where you have one law for some people and they are another law? The approach of the military must be consistent And if it's not consistent in the eye of the public the public will question the intention of the military And the military will be faced with coming out to say oh our engagement with ipop And bandits is not bad But it's very clear that we've seen bandits talking to governors and the police surrounding them We have not seen government engaging people calling for has government engaged with people calling for Or for self-determination No, but government governors across across across the not not not not to west and across the not east Have engaged with bandits and terrorists And then book arms We don't need the statement if you have been fair Someone said you don't need to remember anything if you are telling the truth because you know the truth at all times All right, I'll also speak about the Your pdp's a chairmanship and of course reactions to it. I use emergence as chair North gets pdp's nod to contests 2023 presidency It also says here North can't produce president and chairman at the same time says body george It was put in black and white that not central could contest says baradje Share your thoughts on that one also and where we seem to be When when when I had the news I told a friend and a colleague I said That that has made the presidency of the pdp open to To to do not east and to do not west and to other parts of the country and I said that Why must it be someone from being me? And then why should be your child and the more things seems to change the more they remain the same These have been actors and players that have been part and possible What have you heard of are you in the last in the last six seven years? And then all of a sudden in March and I told and I told that my colleague because you came on west today together I said my number has come at the Outlook be You know, I've been pdp chairman. We are both from Benway state And at the initial stage we thought that was the bit mark But if you understand the dynamics of the local politics of benway state the tv idoma igala He gave the ISM dimension you understand when that was and all of a sudden we just saw the emergence of the name of Of your child. I I told some that your child you printed and that the call notes have started after the pdp's meeting How many how many meetings were held in the in the in the live in the abuja? um The street house of bachi How many meetings were held by the notan shortly after the pdp national meeting We went into the enclave and they had his notan leaders meeting and it's maybe do come or the not Because one you tell you whatever cards you want to play you play you tell you is a christian Do is from the midu bed. It is when it comes to some certain issue that you understand that oh it's the midu bed When it's political expedient the middle bed becomes middle bed And then it becomes a not depending on whatever they want to achieve but i have not always believed In the issue of um rotational precedence. I think that we should have the best to run this country However, we have started with an arrangement because every every nation every organization leads by precedent precedent procedures and that becomes a policy by by by precedence what we have heard in the two major parties is um Power shifting even though it's not in 99 concern as amended Moving from the north to the south and i've said it you are even talking about the south It should be interesting for the southwest to want to claim the presidency because um the southeast By by order the south should have the first shot the south side should have the second shot and The the the southwest should have the the third shot concerning it So they play the master card they play the master stroke and it has made it open to to to all um I hope PDP will be able to manage the crisis to come out of it because it was when that was done It was not said whether the presence will come from the from the from the north or the south But it was that this chairmanship has been zoomed to the north and we have seen that um the north is playing Its political master stroke once again and doing is always in the spotlight of of all of this So in the history of PDP three chairman She can't be be And chairman three chairman will have come from from from from when we from when we stayed so It's the middle grade now What do they stand? What are the chances, you know, if they eventually pick a, you know, uh candidate Still from the north seeing that i use from the middle belt I've seen that um Well, just they said niger was divided along Under june and that became polarized and the apc government promised unity But you agree that the easy for said determination was super very high under under brahri's administration and then in terms of the The stillness of the appointment at the lack of regard for further character and then the the the the shia Neposistic approach to giving appointments to people that comes from a certain section of this country that itself Awakened in the the the new one. I don't want to cover their consciousness and Nobody cares where the presidency come from in the past, but Would the experience we have had As created that and everybody seems to think that oh my my to your tend to is well I'm better sad if i'm represented by someone from my primary and i've said it He's just a sheer waste of time. It's an illusion if you think that will happen because the presidency has come from karsena state It has not had karsena too. We are a duo and Buhari has gone the presidency has come from bias as the just travel between by travel between rivers and bias Are you still the state of the world and look at infrastructure the presidency has come from From from from ugun state and what has it done to leave us? I don't express if you want to go to illaro The best way for it to wish to go to sunghu, but to spend the whole of your life going to life So you have to go to leave us if I don't express fee and then connect a vector to go to it So what as a personality presence is done for most of the people that's coming from from your village does not solve your problem Until we have nationalist leaders leaders that do not look at their familiar ethnic interest and they have the interest of serving the nation and I think that's when that Will be we'll be we'll be better sad all of this The political class is just in the wind. Are you came from nowhere? And you see now that some people have been parading this former PDP chairman and the Governor of the senator from from born must eat and a little bit Move to PDP became PDP chairman talk about senator Some have been saying that is the best candidate for the APC So let's also watch out the game. They are playing because we are just poor in their political game. There's no difference in PDP or APC They are the same They are the same Nigerian politic politicians are chameleon to return the color of their skin to the times and season And what's in them pattern? Let's just watch what is being done because What as are you you said to national discourse in the last six years that I'm out in you What as he said what statement what conference what speech what has it done? We always imagine we all of them put together the IGP any government in power All right. Let's also still check out another it's a security concern right here the daily independent Six remaining two colonel jets delivered September 28 and I remember that the United States when Making serious arguments saying that it would help the Nigerian Government in the fight against insorgences and so how far do you think we have fed? You know with the fact that yes, we have received the first batch of you know the two colonel jets How far have we fed battling all of this insorgences and the fact that we're going to take delivery on Of the remaining six. That's the second batch on the 28th of september. Hopefully What should we expect? I was I not only Always are not only one on the battlefield What was also one in you managing information managing that information If you check the daily trust story Daily trust said the group is the story two weeks ago about the debt of the Issaap leader and them the military just confirmed it and in fighting In fighting this war I think that the military needs to do much more better when it comes to this information management This critical and winning was That people get to know what happened. We don't have to wait till eternity for us to understand The military is doing very well, but what is with respect to fighting banditry with respect to fighting them With respect to fighting terrorism and rest of it But how often do we get information from the military with respect to what they are doing? Okay, you see What what what command structure do they put in place for sharing information with the public and Are How transparent and how quickly do we share those those information of a computer Compute that to to other climb you get this news minute by minute of what the military is doing So we have to wait in media events before you need to make statement concerning what they are doing And if you don't if you don't make noise about what you are doing nobody will know what you're doing and I call it the the end Egg and the dog egg strategy Let me just go talk about that. You see the dog Egg is is the biggest It is the most nutritious egg From nutritional point of view, but nobody's buys the dog egg No, it's the end egg because when the dog leaves his egg it leaves it in secret Whereas when the endless is it it leaves it in the open everybody's Because Because the because the end Makes noise about his own egg. That's what as well as his own egg more valuable That's not the fact that it is less nutritious than that of the dog which you Does are we are we eating dog? Have you used dog egg to make omelette before? But it is more nutritious, but it is of no value. It is the same thing with information Management communication management. So you must communicate. You cannot but not communicate But for us in idea for government to communicate is walla community to communicate is walla Even the one government is even doing something positive people don't know and people assume So assumption is the lowest level of intelligence and because we assume we assume that the military is not working The government is not working. Everything is not working because they don't tell us they are dark and dark and dumb That's the problem. All right Well, let's go to the daily trust one of the stories here says boharis seeks UNDP's intervention to resettle IDPs Was one of the stories in the news yesterday Where he reached out to the UNDP for support, you know, to of course Make life better for Internally this space presence across northern Nigeria Wonderful and then the US donated them 3.5 million plus vaccines to Nigeria so Nigeria is a we live by donation to survive internal problems Issues the approach which we are we have to all things and if we are requiring and then we said Then you are not in crisis if they are This is a crisis shows that when you have a large number of internally displaced person Within your country and shows things are not known when it comes to security issues and protection of lives and property Well, thank god for the UN agencies UN engines for your intervention They are doing but Nigeria has a chance of Africa to not relying on UN agencies in natural sense We should be helping other African countries rather Other African countries that should be benefiting from UNDP's program and not and not Nigeria based on the resources we have and based on the image we project for ourselves Now if we project ourselves as the image of of giant of Africa and then we go out begging to solve our internal problems It will issues that And indeed we are not giant of Africa as with them that we are turning to Beggars of Africa looking to solve our problem I don't think that we should be relying on these agencies to solve our problem And people money resources that have been voted in the past for these IDPs What has happened to it? The palliatives that were taken into these IDPs during COVID-19 what has happened to it? There is no prosecution of people that When budgetary allocations made for these IDPs that it has been efficiently Decisional use and let me quickly tie that to the budget and the 2022 budget The reps said that they are going to pass it by December December 15th And they are trading MGs Ministers, department and agencies of government. Why would rep betray me and if they do the oversight function If they do what we see is that the budget are passed But the budgets are not monitored to ensure that there is compliance with with the budgetary provision What is the level? What is the level of? Budget budget execution We don't do that all the all they are keen about it's when they come to present the budget That's when you have something about about the rep and the national assembly screaming blue mother It is not about the time of passage of the of the budget. What we have achieved under advisor We have passed budget before before before Before January or early in January But what whatever compliance have we gained with respect to executing? What is stated in the budget? And that should be the focus of the national assembly not only tiny Timing timely passage of the budget, but also 100% compliance with the provisions of the budget Well, um I mean like you mentioned, you know, we are meant to be the giants of Africa But you know, it doesn't seem very much like that You know when you see what Nigerians themselves are currently dealing with, you know And I always you know, but when you are speaking out to imagine, you know, if You know, South Africa will be able to have the amount of internally displaced persons that Nigeria currently has Um, and what questions would be asked, you know by the uh, uh, the national assembly in South Africa Um, you know with regards to their government's efforts. I remember Malema, I think that's what's his called and how he always, you know, is very vocal criticizing government where where they seem to be failing um, but Nigeria has had these millions and millions of children and and you know, internally displaced persons And that we've continued to hear that billions have been directed towards But they they don't seem to be living a better life Yeah, we all need to do is to just take a take a trip to this um, this camp and see I I remember I went for a program and I And um in open state and I should um It went with the younger generation that, you know, that when there was crisis in Liberia was in in in open state very close to Jebubu and Um, was where we had Liberian refugees where they were camped and I said, you know that that was where Alphosodivus was given back to was given back to the the guide a place of biamony and a place for canada now And that's where they were they were camped doing the crisis in west Africa and We had to provide them shelter for a lot of a lot of refugees in Nigeria now we have a crisis in Nigeria We're not able to provide that for me It's it has turned to to to a drink pipe People are making money out of the misfortunes of others that that cannot be Encoded because if you look at the amount of resources that has been budgeted and What is even much more than what you can what you can use to finance in local government And most of these people where they have cut them is not even up to a local government and you wonder how and Found ourselves in this in this in this situation that we have to go cap in and to UNDP To UNDP to to give us money. Why would they give us money? When we know that the bulk of the money they give to us might might like a or probably go to private private coffers So for me, but going at begging I don't think Nigeria needs to with what God has done for us with what God has blessed us with I don't think we need UN to help us out UNDP to help us out in serving the issue of internally displaced One the resources that are located for their territory, which is their local government Where does it go to to find out that these Its structures and state institutions that are meant to be in those areas are still there You see how local government chairman the world Cancelers the world the rest of it when the election comes The figures will be taken from those areas to reflect that those people actually voted in the election And now if those people actually participated in the political process as in Then you should meet provisions for them economically because what it is what when we are and how So wherever they are they should get resources of the state Because there are locations that are made for their territory in terms of local government Allocation in terms of resources that are located To their to their states and to their to their territory by federal government with respect to their representation In the country, but we don't know who We only know what But we don't know how whether they get it and we don't know Where so if you apply the Middle East definition of politics who gets what when we are and how Then definitely wherever they are they should be able to be to get the resources that are located to them But unfortunately, it is what it is Like most Nigerians believe You you continue to pray to solve this problem But it's just stupidities and illusions for you to think that we have solved the problem that man can solve For us because it is by doing Nigeria should be the most successful country in the world. Yeah, it's pretty much the same, you know Situation and of course we have to wrap up here But it's pretty much the same situation that we've spoken about over and over and that is Lack of auditing with regards Nigeria's finances and the things that we spend money on We've heard also about the school feeding program and how, you know, they claim to have spent billions You know in feeding children across the country Also the the um COVID-19 palliatives and how much you know money Nigerian government claims have spent billions and billions of naira But there's zero auditing as to whether these things were truly sent to the people that They were budgeted for Sadly It could have traded as money. Yeah, exactly and trade of money And trade as money We would have hopefully we would have an extended conversation about this, but thank you very much. We have to wrap up here Let me just the key is for us to restructure our system We inherited a military system. Where is there is a command structure where you cannot question the military administrator Where you cannot question the president's finances? That's what has even have been applied to to security work. That's the system which we have The auditor general cannot function under that system So that is as to what we need to put in the system That gives very much the pleasure to be with you and ensure that this evening you go out to Cut some phone relax and don't let them The stress of working too much of you and it's a pleasure to meet And the beautiful day in the studio Thank you so much We have balanced it this year. Thank you very much, Judy Johnson. Have a great weekend. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Judy. Thank you All right, stay with us. We'll take a short break when we come back our first major conversation for today still talking Elections and of course now we're talking direct primaries How does this change the narrative of the niger and electoral space? across the country that comes up after the short break good morning