 Boss top one on one man Southwood winning live and direct you niggas better get ready and get on this state Tom soak in this ship and hit a million views in two to three days Big shit big shit. It's a unique hustle nigga big shit big shit big shit big shit Name another podcast like this check it check it check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy e ceo And I'm here with the lovely amazing official mr. Mako. What's going on? Not nothing, you know my dad walk on man. Hey man We pulled up here and got a gym today man. Listen man. No cap nigga. That's what them young niggas say No cap nigga, but this nigga here a man. He don't need no introduction man Say man, I seen him on that video with sauce Walker, man I said I had to go get him then I see me with the whole team I said man not only with the team one of main niggas man Southwood winning Southwood winning. No is a man. Thank you for coming on boss talk one-on-one man Hey, I got me in here man. We couldn't come to Houston and I'll talk to you. I'll talk. Are you serious? I be seeing you man. I've been seeing your work man. Your work ethic says it all bro I appreciate it cuz somebody gotta like they see me man. Listen man We just got to keep working and we got to keep doing what your name say winning niggas See this is a manifestation So it's something that like I feel like certain people names kind of like like when you like in Africa They names about to say that's what they did back in the day Your name is meant for whatever you gonna be or something like that So I want to win for you have a meaning your name got a meaning. I mean I'm gonna win Man, I love that bro. So just tell us a little bit about yourself. We'd like to take it back, right mr. Make us. Yes. Yes You we want to take it back a little bit about before before sauce would was winning We wanted we want to just Man what part of Houston and all that good about your parents. We want to know everything your background Yeah, um, I'm from South Park. I'm from dead end. Okay springs apartments. The project's down now on the end It's the least that's why I'm from born and raised. You know, I'm saying I grew up right though My mama's sister's everybody from right there. We did right there everybody from right there Oh, you know how they go. We ain't going from the other sides, but you know everybody and Okay, so like different parts of Houston you got people migrate over here So some of the people that's from your neighborhood probably moved to that neighborhood They probably had kids in that neighborhood So one kid might be from here with that other kid from that neighborhood down there So it's just how everybody come together the South side have always been like close together like everybody got cousins and every who So the South side, you know me I seen you win Kiki pretty much Yeah, look like to me solidified your man when it came down to it Something to come through like man, and then you hit that South side on that whole Everybody doing that man like how did it make you feel for me even you know Just show you that mad love in the midst of that and I felt I felt like the dawn was just really Passing the torch like yeah, this boy South side like me. He's black like me. He looked like me. He wrapped me Told I just felt like he was feeling like I love. This is the one that I'm a crown on this side I'm passing the torch to him man Like that As you should because when you guys first, you know, I mean when you think about the South side Like you just see it and being from there. How what age did you start really just tapping in the little Kiki? Oh, man, nah, that's been forever. Like, okay, so we I grew up Freestyle and that's all we even know but look, let me give you some deeper backstory My uncle from Hershey would who my mama grandma and them staying on long matter Hershey was so they grew up with Kiki They don't call him Kiki. They call them markets They grew up with him. He know my uncle. He know my mama. Oh, that's dope So it's already like Russ Russ, but no, they all that's one of Kiki's right here, man It's like, you know, I'm saying so that's dope. This was a power bar for my mom, you know That's how deep it is with me and now let that going that far into it man That's love bro that it's a connection for real. So I could see I see why the respect come man It's just dope man to see real brothers The video and with sauce him and sauce walker from Texas I'm from Texas man. Say, do you know that this boy done Kika on my phone where you at, man? Bro, that's love man. Like I said, man, the whole game you got to realize man when you dealing with Just a basically being, you know solidified in the city like that man And how does it make you feel for for to see a movement man? Like like to come from where we come from from a nigga not knowing to a nigga understanding my nigga look They didn't know they didn't know bro. I went to the penitentiary, you know in 2009, bro I've been not I got out 2018. I did nine years, bro. Are you serious? Come on, bro A little bit more for show man because I'm telling you And been grinding since I've been out I still got niggas call me from the prison like damn, bro I ain't know you a rabbit. I never did that. I never wrapped in prison or none of that But I always grew up freestyling like so we crank up a freestyle anyway That's what we do in Houston But for us really rapping and like putting lyrics together nobody have nine years It kind of hit them boys from from a different angle. So nine years what and you might it may not want to get into it What did you end up going to prison for nine years for aggravated robbery? I committed aggravated robbery with one of my homies and then awesome We did the robbery people got shot and then we went to prison. Wow. So and and that was your first offense first offense They hear me. I'm 1817, bro And you so you spent really most of your most of your young young you grew up in prison I really grew up in prison because let me like, okay, so Nine years man. Let's get man. So you you say that was your first offense Yeah, let's let's just tackle and talk about it a little bit more because like I said man to go through You know that and then still be here. It's heavy. I'm still be saying still be told Let's talk to me a little bit about being your first offense going down there. We could get in the detail Were you set 17? Yeah, and you never got in trouble before that TDC TDC Gurney Milton go read Company unit color is unit Torres get a bluish unit. Whoo What was it like the first day going into that system like that, bro? We put a talk I don't know what you went in though What was your frame of mind and what did you think it was gonna be like Don't know all I know is stories People got man Okay, coming from the neighborhood is in the streets that we come from Everybody done been to the penitentiary. So all you hear is penitentiary stories about how it is and what's going on down there Whatever you hear about it, but For me, I didn't know what I was gonna walk into I just had to go hold my head up in my chair What did was there a sense of cuz you you don't know what you walking into going into the situation? You hear the stories you get that a first day you the first day. What you what transfers you went straight to come No, I came through uh-uh-uh right here in a moment. I came to laggis laggis Larry Geese Okay So when you went watch that one when you went through there the first day you get there they get you off the bus What do they say to you they get you off the bus? Yo, you a laggis we finna take you back here through diagnosis They gonna put you in this little room right here We've got 20 more people that came with you y'all getting unchained together. They finna strip everybody Let the but line them up. You got us really like hey, you ain't standing behind me You really got to make your own space. You know, yeah, so, uh They finna strip your shade give your car number your ID gonna take your picture take ID They gonna see y'all today figure out what they gonna put in the computer to see you wherever you're going on that bus She even had ball ball Wow, all the half your head ball and then and and then that's that's just a great Yeah, yeah Soon as soon as they cut your head they take the picture. They degrade you Yeah, some did you own the boxes that you know Dirty boxes that they So you get down there and you in your mind you like if a nigga try me, okay, so when I get there in my mind I'm already I'm young bro. So I ain't trippin on nothing. I ain't trippin on no squabble I'm 17 years old Bro, I'm ready for it. I came from a section of the Houston Come on. So I'm already for it, but I ain't looking for it, but I'm for it if it go down What's up? I'm with it. So I'm walking into all of this then I'm game-banging. I'm running into the sits So I gotta be so I gotta stand up on some, you know, I'm saying I See my people Gonna get it right cuz you should have came in saying you was from Jamaica Exactly, you see us party and now you want to be Jamaican. No, don't go like that. You come in Okay, you're part of this thing right if you don't come in like that and then you see how we party Now you want to be Jamaican So and you get down there and you get what you said and all that good stuff and you doing your time and all of a sudden Three years then went by my mama died. Yeah, why are you in pretty short and low junior said the same thing? But his mama and his daddy died while you know, so I don't know that when he was locked up Yeah, so how did that day? How was it and how did you hear about it? Full so she's sick. No nigga. Listen. I just talked to my mom I'm talking about mama. She comes busy. I give you this out list. I go to come and say I'm I'm going to start I ain't tripping on that. So this my mama's for me. I'm a life type shit mama boy. Yeah, I'm a mama's boy. So, uh, I Call home and they I'm calling and my sister ever since she like She like, um It's my list of she like bitch mama They're gonna talk to you. Hmm. I'm like now who supposed to talk to me. She like hold on So she put my big sister on the phone Mama goof like like she play a lot my mama play a lot So she done is before like and tell them something happening and I hear whatever And I'm a stop playing give me the phone give mama the phone So she not getting on the phone She get a phone to my oldest sister who was more serious about I would Situations of life, you know I'm saying so she telling me what happened and I hang up She tripping I hang up, but the chaplain was supposed to came and got me yesterday. Hmm Yesterday, they didn't want to supposed to give you that the chaplain posted came and got me yesterday They never came and got me. So I call back on some like man. It can't be that I call back. I'm like, what's up, bro? What's up? Let me talk to mama. She's like, bro mama gone, bro I just broke down. Yeah, I broke down not going myself. I put my little towel. I had a towel I used to wear a towel over my head. I wore a towel over my head by seven eight days straight, bro I couldn't eat nothing. I really felt a detachment. I really felt it. I really felt like You know saying and I ain't never I've been my mama my mama son like I ain't got my gran and I'm not only boy three sisters So I ain't never had the granny You never lost a baby. You feel me? I never had I wasn't a grandma, baby I was my mama's my mama son if they didn't want me I was bad whatever. Yeah, I don't care. It's no excuse to none of that cuz I'm a kid But how does she pass away if you don't mind me ask? It's something called pulmonary embolism. It's called a It's a blood clot in your lung. That does happen that type of it just happens Like it's just happens like an aneurysm in your brain. It's like an aneurysm in your brain It's in your lungs. No sign of sickness. No, it just happens. It just happens pulmonary embolism And then you yeah, and so you shocked at this time you going I can't do nothing my people taking care of me though. Yeah homies is really taking care of me Yeah, I make sure yeah, but that's the same thing. So the low junior said People Ain't no friendly dude. Yeah, like the certain little few homies that I do got like that cuz they know what happens They know my mama done done three ways for you niggas when you niggas I didn't I did time-time So I didn't had been around all these niggas for years and my mama doesn't send money to your books for me and put Extra 20 for you before or my mama didn't did a three way for you to get you something that like niggas No, my mama. It was all love like everybody know even the hood like my mama hurt the hood That's crazy man. So you you down there you have to really self heal. I got I was 23 And so no you don't and and I ain't get to see I didn't get to go I didn't get to be a part of it. Is it real to me like all kind of shit in my head at the time Like I didn't see this sometimes can't you ask that one? Can you go to the funeral and stuff like that? Yeah, but they don't in Texas man. You got like a 3% chance of anybody getting it. They used to do it They don't do it no man doing it like they used to so They they call it some type of furlough. Yeah, some kind of furlough a death furlough So what they don't be able to go to the services and they posted take you Right to the services. So how many do you have been there three years? I have been locked up three and a half years. So I'm gonna love those 2013 three years 2013 you in there and and now um How is it now six months later? I'm gonna put six months up. Okay, bro You talking to a nigga like my mama, bro used to send me Five six hundred dollars Yeah, two three months you both in 60s Come on, bro. I'm not gonna stow down every time bro. I went from that to indigent for five six years, bro For real For real bro, like nobody nobody else in niggas ain't sending me pictures niggas like nothing, bro Nothing like I'm supposed to be like the prodigy child from my neighborhood And niggas ain't sending me shit Niggas getting income tax everybody getting something at bro these years, bro And I'm dying to thug him, bro. I gotta break your niggas lockers and take shit from people, bro I gotta get ignorant. I gotta adapt to my environment my nigga to survive that shit is real and people don't be understanding that That shit is really real my nigga like damn. I'm really hungry, bro. Yeah, yeah It's a rude awakening, but everything happens for a reason because Well, that's shit. Fuck man. Listen, man. I understand because you either have to you you you know, you have to You're gonna sell it you sell Bro, I ain't watching no niggas clothes. No, I'll sell the tattoo ink Uh Man, look it's coming out. I'm me little old me trying to carry this in my pants down the hallway Yeah, that's a long hallway with three of my homeboys trying to help block me to get there without No, you got a checkpoint every five to seven seconds. So and they Looking for niggas like you're like coming out of there coming up with You have a pack of chicken and yeah, you ain't got no plenty of time You don't get caught. Look, that's it. You just trying there you go my nigga. You just trying I'm fucking I'm gonna try but if I get caught whatever But this is the extremes the nigga had to go through the hustle To try to be able to keep something in my locker like man, there's so much shit Yeah, cuz if you even if you got it, then you ain't got no money on your books. That's another thing That's a dead gift. But you see, you know the reason why I say it's a rude awakening because a lot of people that you feel like Should have been down with you. You it opened your eyes to say that Yeah, for real. Ain't none of that. That's shit fake. It opened you right it opened you right I'm telling you I lived it. I seen it. I just did it recently it made you move different when you got out To move I move that's the way you like niggas can't understand but I was it I hear it. I don't care Because I was there. Yeah, I know who's out here balling you niggas were doing What think about me? No, bro, and they heard me that you nigga did me like, but it's cool It's You help me. I wouldn't trade Strong some ox man. Come on. So when you okay now this time, you know You out that thug and you trying to figure it out and everything and they It's a aggravated assault charge. So we made it wrong role is a joke because they not even thinking about you I'm not even finna make this first. That's right. See my mama was really like stay out of trouble We're gonna do this this this and that and that she they got a gun because she on she thing and now you make it first road That's fake That ain't real you can go without cases or nothing and be an outstanding offender and still not make parole No, you're right. So you get so so basically get to your first parole you go in there You really don't even try two years. Get out of my face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, two more years Yeah, I don't even want to see you get out of my face. Two years was your first offense. It's not like you're Two years Look at your record and be like now I'm gonna look at your record. You already did I had I got nine. So I had to do what four and a half To see parole. Yeah, right. So, um They hit you with the two year they hit me with the two boom You go back again. I go back again. They hit me with a white. Boom. Get out of my face I go back again. They hit me with another one So now I know I'm here. Yeah, I know I'm here now. I am I'm here I'm finna do this time. You did the whole nine, but how much how much time did they sentence you to nine I was sentenced to nine years and I pulled nine years because normally what what what y'all always say There's something in the job 85% It's automatically 85 and they still because he was down there. He ain't caring in laws. His mom ain't go through a lot of stuff There you go. He was done. I didn't I didn't got stuff or so. I didn't got this. I didn't got stabbing relationships I didn't got offender or sauce. I didn't got satan rides. I got all kind of Like bro, I like I still got these cases in my somewhere to put up, you know what I'm saying that I just Like damn I was shipping in there and niggas respect you though. You got to Well, you do stuff like that. Can they add more time on to you? No, no He just got to do everything unless you catch a new charge or something. Only way I can get some more time Yeah, so I'm like Yeah, but but at the end of the day you let's let's get on out of it because man, I I respect what you just I really did appreciate that story because at the end of the day niggas need to know that Just because you go through something don't mean you can't get to something. Yeah Because you she was like and and that's the core I just want to motivate them boys and let them niggas know it's still hope You can survive. No, bro. I love it. I love it. You can survive niggas. I did and they got lost my mama. I ain't had She ain't had bro. I'm telling you I'm robbing niggas scheme ass jacking niggas Give it up in the penitentiary. This is real niggas still see people don't know People don't know niggas is still robbing niggas in jail. That's right Right now this nigga got a phone. What he got a phone for I leave the phone Yeah, we don't love this nigga and he don't run with nobody ain't nobody can even have this nigga back So we get it with some money. So we getting that and that's my phone. Yeah Everybody gotta run with somebody for some sort of protection. No, no, it ain't like that niggas stand alone I remember we talked to uh that other old boy. Yeah, but he was into his bible like when you got through Because he was in your bible ain't nobody bringing no drama to the church guy Exactly Okay, so if you're not in your bible and you're not with a click then you're more like a target to me the muslims The muslims hold it on to they hold it. They like a game. That's right. That's a click Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you man But if you're not doing any of that then you're gonna be fooled, right? Unless you cool with boss talk you go. Yeah. Yeah. You got unique hustles. Oh, you okay? Yeah, I know that they got a week from the same night. That's it. Yeah from the same Oh, no, I know little bro. No, y'all can't do that. You can't do that with him I'm from yeah, he from where he from where I'm from Yeah, so that's a shot call. Yeah, I'm gonna call the shots like you already know you came right with that You can't touch that So how old are you when you finally decided that you wanted to do music or whenever I'm trying to get him out Let me get him out first. I want to get to where he coming home This nigga come home because that's exciting Yeah When a nigga coming home when you done did that nine and I'm fit to go home and you know you about to get up How do they let you out baby? But you excited but sad at the same time because his mama not here. Yeah, he's saying I've not already been there. I've been there for six years now. It's time to come home. Okay. And now when you get old My mama been gone since 2008 13 is 2018. I'm finna touch the pavement. So you get home You come out they they let you out where now down here No, no, no, no, I came from my what my sister came and got me from the Wild Juniors She can't get out of the Wild Juniors with golden games. Yeah, I got out right there. So you get to pick me up So you get out there. Yep, you come home running out Different now what changed because a lot of changes happened What was the biggest change that you seen when you came home? Man the biggest change. I know cell phones was a trip, but let's talk about it when I came home like I like for me it was like, um Really just getting the response being responsible, bro. Cause I ain't never had shit I ain't nothing before I went to do You know what I'm saying? So I never had shit now. I'm really out here by myself. I'm one new kids No, not at the time. Not at the time. No, so you come home. He's the man of the family right now Right now. I'm that boy. Yeah. I'm him. I'm that nigga, but Yeah, my sister came and I'm staying with her. I'm doing this. You know what I'm saying whatever But she like I ain't hustling or nothing. I'm just trying to figure it out, bro I just got out. So I'm trying to figure it out and like she damn you want to try it out right here But I never really had that in my heart, bro. I mean, I always been a hustler It don't matter what kind of hustler I could have sold shoes. You feel me? But I'm like, no, I don't want to do that. That ain't what was on me. I want so, um, how old were you when you Well, what did you want to do when you were a kid? Oh when I was a kid, man. Uh, uh, I probably wanted to do I You know kids have kids dreams and so they can probably want to be a firefighter or a truck driver or some shit like Nothing major. Okay. So when did you decide that you wanted to be a rapper? Or with the music industry? Um Like like my last year in prison. I'm just like this is what I'm feeling to go out here and do I I felt like I had clutter already because I like I'm telling you I was a prodigy in my neighborhood Like I even I always been popular I ain't never not been popular high school middle school. I've always been popular. So I'm like, damn I want to I'm gonna go out here and try to rap I'm feeling so where was your dad doing all that? I know you lost your mom But where was your dad doing all this time? You know, I ain't never really just you know I I got my old man was locked up for 14 years. You know what I'm saying? So really when He didn't really know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? We're really like niggas miss that Okay, so you didn't have that male figure and niggas miss that. Yeah, but I know it's Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. I'll be chilling with my boy, but But coming up niggas and had it. It's just not what it is Yeah, so when you when you uh, I want to walk up on the sauce walker how y'all meet how y'all link Uh, what when did you first meet him? Man bro from the same hood Y'all from the same hood? Yeah, he from my hood. We all from the me him and santo from the same Hood so how do y'all how do you get in that clique? You've been gone for nine. I've been gone for nine years So, okay when I left we wasn't even and we was at ours with them niggas like from because walk had Didn't went from the hood and went over that and this what he doing with them niggas now But he never stopped representing what he was from but he with them niggas though So we really not seeing them niggas we going places and seeing them niggas playing with His all kind of shit in the city as teenagers, you know I'm saying going around the city. So um When I got out When I get out I'm here in south this south this but I don't really know I ain't knowing that this is who this is and this is what's going on You feel me? So my nigga he pull up. I'm out there. Hey, wow. You feel me santo. That's my D to me Me and my D me and santo was a rapping group way back back in the past. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You know what I'm saying like fact. So I'm down. It's a no brainer. I'm saying what's going on This is my brother this oh this it's no brainer. Let's go. We're rocking and I just Stood on it. I stood on it. I jumped in and stood on it. That's just what it is. So so basically when you met Who did you meet to link again? I mean, what you met him in the neighborhood and when y'all linked? What did he say to you? How did y'all do that day? Hey, bitch? I know you been gone. I know you a bitch We this was going on now. This what we doing out here. It ain't whatever you want to do. I'm with you You know, you I'm just showing you the door open right here on this But I was already over here messing with my cousin him at the hood cast studios So he like, bitch, I see you got that going on do your thing, but I'm with you. Whatever you're doing You need me to pull up. I'm gonna pull up. You got a song. I'ma get on it Whatever I'm fucking with it But the door open whenever you feel like you want to go on come jump down because this was you know I'm saying bitch. I'm telling you but I'm not really knowing like how deep and how big So yeah, why was the music name back then before you ended up with him? Me my music name. I ain't have one. I wasn't rapping. Okay But as soon as you started rapping that this is what this was your name. No young wood winning I just put the young I put the sauce on top the young Okay, so when you when when he pulls up or you just say I'ma gonna rock with y'all. How does that happen? I look so it's a whole little story. All right, so I was studio some tragedy happened at our studio at the hood cast studio I picked my nigga big nitty my nigga little wish So boom the tragedy happened. So the shoot the studio should uh, you know, I'm okay Boom, so now I'm still trying to grind my rap shit But I ain't got no camp because my camp didn't kind of crumble that Yeah, that's all the mishap. Right. So boom I'm bitch. What's up? Let's get in Let's go He like I bitch. I'm gonna show you how I go and pull up. We talk. We sit down. We have a long talk Yeah, we have a long talk. We talk about the business real business real business We talking about what's really going on what we standing on how I gotta go And I'm telling the guy I gotta see it too for me to want to be down with something like a certain kind of way My lord see I gotta see a certain kind of way too. Yes, sir And everything prospered everything prospered, bro Everything we talked about prospered. Wow. So so what's the first song that you and him done together? Oh Man, we got we done a bunch of song The first one to hit that That the youtube the radio that for real I spew. Yeah crazy 1.5 million views Man, so that's the one but y'all did a bunch that you didn't And we got so much they ain't even heard yet. How many members is it over there? Y'all got like 40 niggas over there, man We got about 40 niggas and 40 niggas grinding 40 niggas and 40 niggas grinding for nigga ain't like love he grinding bro. He's spilling. He's splashing in some kind of way That's what make it unique about the sauce because everybody like he doing this on time He doing this on time. He doing this on time, but it all come back together collectively some kind of way Yeah, so so you For him when you came on the camp, how many was it at the time when I came on the camp It was it was bigger than it when I came on the camp. It was big. It was more people than It is now because a lot of people that went to jail when I came home all of the people that was Not in jail or alive They was still here. They was to yourself. They was repping. They was doing this there She happens over the years niggas go to jail niggas get knocked out the way And niggas fall off from dripping and whatever and now it's just down to like It's a stiff 30 man. So That's crazy because for y'all to really like like the way he's taken over man Because I I said in the little kiki. I was like, man, you got sauce on there, nigga I'm watching the youngsters. I love the young niggas movement for sure. I'll be like, man The young niggas who gonna help us out nigga. We didn't got old. We gotta depend on these young niggas This is who it's all about for me So when I look at y'all I'm like I I commend the young for for I know they're gonna look out there We we gotta depend on y'all for sure and and so it's like damn man, you know He represented the way it should be represented for sure. He's gonna put together man. I like that for Texas This is the god of Texas But I just love the way that that that that it looks makes us look one day I would leave in houston, right and I was by myself in in the in the to the old coup and and He did a song in new york. Yeah a video. Yeah And I put that whole on because I was just going to feel houston and that nigga went down through there. Yeah, I said god Doll these young niggas crazy. Yeah, I'm just coming from houston seeing fat dad because my cousin had just got out You know, they live shout out fat daddy and hickey, man. Yeah over the year. I'm smiling and boys over the awfully You know what I'm saying? So, uh, I was just leaving and I just I just thought about I said, I'm gonna put this houston feel on And I put it on that store going live on a IG man and just dope to see y'all moving like y'all moving giving us that sound I'm a I'm a I'm a hip hop heart here when it comes to the side. We appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate it T itself appreciate T itself dope as hell So, you know, that's why I wanted to get you in here I wanted to really rock out with you and just feel You know how I feel to be inside of the the tsf movement. You know what I'm saying? No, it's a blessing for so because it ain't for everybody. No, I'm not for everybody It's a lot of people come around us, bro. They just can't get in you cool You got bread you got this this this and that but you just not want to us not a dripper, bro You cool though, you know what I'm saying? Because this really is our brotherhood. This our society Everybody we ain't doing a handshake. You know anybody our handshake go for the chosen members I love it because y'all y'all pretty much made what y'all want something to be y'all's own Our own nobody else did that he he made his own thing and nigga you can't and he stand on it too And you want to get in and you can't yeah, he's stand on it. You niggas want to get in you niggas want to be dripping You niggas want to start from us, but you can't get it So do you I agree with him that niggas come to texas and steal the drip and And steal all the different things that we do so he make up a lot of stuff He complained about people taking it. Do you agree with I know you agree with 100%? Have you seen it happen? I see it. I'm finna push and pee Simply just dead alone. That's come on man. This man been screaming this for years And they just try to bite off his style. It's facts. But how long they've been doing that? Drip how many bro they saying drip on espn. Yeah, yeah Yeah, he he definitely started there. Really? This is really they saying sauce They saying drip and sauce in the same lines on espn Simply because this came from this man for sure. I just like the way you make these outside niggas respect texas Yeah, for sure niggas serious about it. He's standing up. Let me tell you something man. I'm gonna go and see him I'm a pimp see phonetic niggas. So when I see the way he do it That's that same spirit and that same spirit is in him and it makes it to where a niggas got to respect it Yeah, and that's what I like. So I'm an automatic fan because of that Channeling that pimping his body for show and that's a seal in that niggas because Okay, once again, he really Like we really be on like texas audit like pimping bun and kiki and screw up like we really still Deeply rooted out for all of that. That's what after all of that It's still in us and that's why we still work because people Some about him like you just said man, that nigga remind me of pimp. I like this nigga Yeah, some remind me about this nigga by bun. I like this nigga This nigga remind me of screw who this nigga cold with them beats. I like this Like this nigga flowing like patting hot. Like that nigga got it And you like I said, that's the whole game about it, man. Do they have any females in the camp? Uh-oh, here she go Oh, you look at him. He's like, uh No females in the camp. I don't know why not? I We be going hard and you can have females going hard too. All right, but you can't lift this table as I can Some females can Sauce All right, it's just like, oh no, it's just Not yet Not against it are y'all We got a lot of affiliations Affiliations for sure. Like that's affiliated with a lot of time a lot of time niggas don't want to nigga to know who the female is The real stepple I think every crew need to have at least a female in the Oh, you're talking about an artist an artist a female artist That's because of evolution is coming. I'm pretty sure of it when that right moment happened, right? They won't be able to deny it but until they get there right now. It's sauce Yeah, we're dripping right dripping sauce everywhere. We splashed in this In the south right now I want to talk about the song man the the south panthers Uh, what what that's that thing went crazy, man. How did y'all collab and what made y'all do it? um so uh me and him we we we trying to um Man, we trying to find some time for us to put out a project together with another songs, you know, I'm saying to make everything make sense and um That was part of the first songs that that was one of the first or couple songs that we had did That was hard. I oh, we gotta put that out there We gotta put that south panthers out there and when we dropped it it went crazy. Yeah and and so and it went crazy because Another reason it probably because then that was probably his first time dropping something back on the bullshit He was dropping like ghetto gospel and shit. Like, uh, you know the other shit So when he's he dropped he jumped back on that that was like his first time really jumping back on like I feel disrespectful I know he jumped on that bullshit. I don't do that. Yeah That was like one of his first signs jumping back on that that the people have heard in a long time since the ghetto gospels Then they they was feeling it Wow, so did y'all perform that at side by side with? Oh, no, no, no, we ain't performing that at side by side with but we did perform for real. I spilled at Side by side with and it went stupid crazy man. So what was the highlight? What was the highlight of the show? Man, let me show it to you. Let me see if I can pull something up for you I see right there That's it right there went stupid crazy on here. You hear me? Yeah, take it out. I want you to see it That's how that's how that's how it You know, it's crazy because people in the audience that can afford with it We man It was crazy Energy man, how do you get to that energy level that you guys are at right there? Man, that's how we coming no drugs ain't none of my people on drugs, bro And we don't do nothing to smoke a little weed. We that's just how we coming we energized we powered up We like that for real man. That's dope. No drugs. We ain't taking no perks We ain't taking nothing straight smoking dope and and probably post some syrup But that's no but we ain't doing no other shit Man, and you know what man? No drugs Because a lot of people really think we be on drugs because we be having a lot of energy Like they don't understand that they don't really understand like these things is just what the fuck is this? Is he drunk like because a nigga It's like the holy spirit. It's like the holy sauce though. It just hit us when it hit us when the music come on like Oh, that's oh, we gotta kill him with this Oh, no, it's like certain vibes and they get out the music and it's coming Oh, what do you want to see? Okay, watch this play that You're gonna see everybody go crazy quick Man, you you you just you just got a dope way Of landing your cadences, man, and so I appreciate that man. Don't you know Yeah, what was up with that? Man, I heard that sample on that loose on that loose That's that's crazy I don't what he say on now that the sample said I don't no promises Yeah Yeah, yeah, I was listening to and I'm listening to Oh, that's crazy Niggas ain't coming with this like this. I gotta give it to them brawling and cut when I give it to them right here And so I'm just jamming it I say there it is I told the baby slide with me and we gonna do some gangsta shit up in this 550 Thank you for modin balance. Let me keep that five with you. Let them pussy niggas know somebody finna die with you I just was in a zone when I was running in and I was feeling it and it came I wanted it too Man, that's dope man. So how long did it take you to write it? How man or do you partying that came together with in like 20 minutes 20 minutes outside for sure, man That's dope, man Like I said, it's something different about when you when you feeling it and you gotta have it You gotta do when you I'm telling you bro to the beast be telling me what to say The beast don't say say this it's gonna sound though when you see it. Yeah, okay when I hear the beat I'm like, oh, I already know where I'm going. I already know like the beat I already telling me how to do it how to ride like it's just it's it's a gift, bro It's a blessing. It's a gift like it's a God's gift from man. What I mean, um, what Top three artists of all time did or lie any genre top three artists of all time did or live your top three Well pat number one Number one. Why ain't nobody done it like pat niggas couldn't spit it like pat Not even scarface Scarface cool with a story or two. He could tell you some different kind of stories scarface a storyteller Pat was just all over like different bro. He was a different type of Man, I just when I play pat I get a different feeling for when I listen to anything Us and and and it's another thing that that that he passed away to Yeah, he was he was so ahead of his time, bro. This nigga was rapping about besides she All the shit niggas talking about right now. He was rapping about this year back then way back then and he was ahead of the time Wow, this nigga pat was awesome, bro. It just he just niggas can't spit it like that number two number two. I say, uh Number two my my all-time number two. Who am I gonna get this to man? I gotta give it to the darn key, bro Hey, that's my boy I'm a deeply rooted Houston nigga though. Yeah, it's just like I don't All that I said, I really I wonder what his number three gon be since I ain't trippin But this number two will cold come on man. Come on. I gotta support boss talk, man I'm not playing about that nigga gotta be done. What's on lock in? Shoot man. I'm not man. I'm not really done nigga done me speaking that shit And he solidified him he solidified him. No. No. I'm gonna talk about that man The done peer we already shot him out. I ain't know if the connection was like that When you showed it to me just God really just opened in my eyes to why you sitting in that seat, bro Like like it's it. We were just here with little kiki a couple of weeks ago. Now we're sitting with you God, I don't make no mistakes, bro. I'm being real man I already know man like and then you know how me and you met shot out the shun and double a them They linked us up man. So at the end of the day My boy shot out son. Look how that came though, bro. Yeah, that's why I don't play And that and that ain't even come to texas though. No, it come from florida niggas. Just call this niggas. Hey man. E Come from texas. That's crazy, man That's crazy. Look at he hasn't taken off to be like because it's that's crazy I had to pay attention right that's crazy man. Yeah, that's crazy. That's super crazy at the end of the day That's God because he you don't have to try to figure it all out. He got to figure it out for you That's God for sure. Let's stop playing with that man number three Two pot. Hey man, I won't deny it. I'm a straight rider Hey It ain't a little more gangster than park and then a niggas still ain't dropped the disc check Like pot the never ain't nobody gonna ever be able to do it like never most hardest Yeah, but it ain't like the pot see pot pot Man, they didn't know how to handle that boy. He was before his time Bro, 25 years old man when he died and look at all the stuff he accomplished Can't make this up And everybody keeps saying he was way ahead of his time I think I ain't regular. He ain't regular. He did poetic justice. He did movies. He did everything Bro, this nigga did juice juice. He did juice. He did that other one before he had amazing, bro That nigga was park was amazing. Would you ever get into acting? Yes? I would I would get into the question I like that. I mean these videos just like Just like yeah, yeah Especially where um, how the videos are going nowadays because a lot of people put in more emphasis when they're doing videos to make more more theatrical Yeah, and like like the words are expressive Like so you gotta be able to TSF should do a dope South walker if you listening to me nigga, y'all need to do a whole movie nigga. Y'all niggas is dope with the whole camp With the whole camp You can produce that whole you you know that money different All we gotta do bro Is have some people around with cameras That's it and some good editors brother Us just together is a movie. It's a movie A movie on the movement. It's a movie in the movement, bro. We get together and just Amazing this shit's not happening, bro And you'll have hollywood want to pick it up in a heartbeat man. We get together This is not happening by itself. Why you think we're just stealing y'all? What was that show that we used to always watch? Um, it was based out of new york and jay-z bought it What was that that we love? Oh man, that was a dope show Money and violence money and violence was a damn fool. No, no, he was locked up. Oh, yeah, man, man That was crazy Yeah, yeah, you can find it I gotta check that out You want to go out there and just do it and then shifty. Yeah shifty. I don't even want to watch it Let me He just shifty like I'm abiding But let me tell you that's crazy But what I've learned so much but they didn't want to come together and do being this either I think I don't know the ins and outs, but it was some stuff on them But it's just the fact that they made it and then it makes you wonder though because since we've been doing this podcast We hear a lot of people to say that the bigger people will buy artists because they have somebody who um Have music similar to yours and they want to shelf you because they're pushing this other person So the same thing also You know what I mean by by niggas they buy niggas for their image. It's like it's real It's real. So it's the same thing with movies too. They might have something that you know They want to push harder than this and they know it's going hard on you too Get it out of the way so that they can make some more money But that's a boss move right there. I like some boss move, bro. I like it. There you go. I'm a hustler So I Other person gets screwed You got paid though. You already got paid you signed People who are very short term then look at the money now because that's what they want money now But not seen a long term of how much more money they could have made if they just stuck with it You gotta start with it. You don't never know. They probably feeling like look, we just tried some shit out We can work somebody we got 10 million, but we ain't gotta never do it no more. Fuck it We up 10 million can last that long Now when you feed so many people because when you buy buy something like that you feed all them people on the cast You got to pay everybody Go ahead a movie For us Will be so dope We already we don't need no actors. We don't need none of that. I'm telling we just need editors, bro Yeah, we just need editors a team full of editors and cameras, bro. No, don't put that in there Bro, we it's right. We you're gonna hear the most crazy. It's all kind of shit Rizzo Rizzo Woodwind uh south woodwind and Hard body Yep, let's talk about it. Yep. That's uh, we dropped it a couple like two three months ago It was doing good. It's doing good on youtube right now. Y'all go check that out hard body southwood winning Rizzo Rizzo We dropped it on them people it went up me and Rizzo Me and Rizzo actually got some mold In the storage for for y'all, but That was just one of the first ones we popped off. We got part two coming soon Once we get to a honey k view who's gonna drop um um part two on them bars Wow to that hard body part two Lemon pepper freestyle what influenced you to do that? I just kept listening to the beat and I liked it and then it was more of It wasn't no no no drill beats no drill music. It wasn't nothing. I'm not even I'm really just rapping I'm rapping rapping. So I'm like, I gotta get them people something else. I can't get them Oh, yeah, we ride around choppers and we jumping out on your block. Oh the better bitch in the world See I can't give them that I can't give them that all the time. So I had to tone it down and kind of get personal right there with them the L train The sauce Walker sauce wood winning Ever I spew y'all put that one on world star. Yeah What how do y'all pick which ones y'all gonna put on? When we was um See, okay, that was my introduction to into the world right there Them to see what we got going on with me right there with for real I spew And uh, so that was more why we went with them right there because we got our own but we needed to be seen We needed me to be seen As the individual as a as an individual as the new breakout orders that we bring it out. Oh, yeah Y'all forgot about him. We got this we got this. Oh, yeah Look at this. We got train. I have free my boy train Put train on there for wood on there. Oh, we gotta introduce wood to the world There it is right there. It's the song that's gonna do it. This way y'all gonna remember him from Yeah, that's dope man. Just to have a family of people who are talented who are moving and to have somebody like sauce walk a lead in that camp home supporting each other man I love seeing people Genius for real. Yeah. Yeah y'all all y'all are dope, bro Like I said, just the unity and the fact that you say, hey, we ain't even doing no drugs like that You know most need to start my perk of sets and all this stuff. We're against that. We don't do perks We don't do none of that and that's dope, bro. Like I said, I I didn't even know I wouldn't know That's why I had to let the people know exactly because the people see how lit we be And the people the thing we don't judge bro. Like for real We ain't never started no code, bro. We ain't never did none of this bullshit We don't do that. We get money. We do this and we party, bro We turn up. We ain't we smoking dope. We smoking weed. We smoking the best weed you can go by The best weed you can find and we're gonna roll it fat as this right here You're gonna light it up Yeah, I'm on a bitch ass nigga I've seen somebody do that that fat before I'm telling you Yeah, yeah, so I just like I said, man, thank you for coming on the show man How can people get a hold of you, bro? If they looking to you know, link up with you, you know If y'all want to check me out y'all go find me on IG southwood winning too much. That's my second page You know, they got disabled me South just got his channel back. I seen that nigga go ballistic working on mine Why did they tell you why they took it? No, they never told me why I was uh They warned you but we working on it. They supposed to send you an email to say why I straight woke up and my page was just like Not there no more I don't I don't never be posting nothing crazy like that But you know, they'd be going back like y'all for some shit you did right last week, right I didn't talk about saucewood winning 44 mic D easy. Yeah, that's my boy, man Yeah, what is that about? We want I be trying to get everybody in there. You know, I don't need they shout out South Dallas, man That's South Dallas might easy. Okay. So if I want to be able to be maneuvering through these Places and I want people in Texas to respect me. I got to be tapping in the today markets Like with my nigga might be he from Dallas. That's it. Like he taking over they seen right now He the hottest nigga doing his shit right now at the D from South Dallas. He TSF Mike D easy for for my D easy. That's dope. We came together collabed on that So we can put it in a face this how it's going down and it came out immaculate They love it every time we play it on tour it go crazy. It goes up Man, I just like I said, man, I thank God for sending you my way Straight up, I know that I can pull up on It's gonna be love. Like I said when I met kiki Shout out kiki little kiki one of the dopest niggas that Showed me so much love in the city now. I get to meet the little bro Stop playing man. We winning together But he is winning with someone He winning I appreciate it Dope, bro. Yeah, all of the songs that you've ever done. Which is your favorite my favorite song. It ain't that shit That's the hardest one Let me give you a little bit of it. That's the last one he done. He got more though. He got more in the boat I can do for y'all And okay, and why is it the hardest one? Man, because it's because it's newest. No, no, no The ones that be hard be it be like about who on them it be like the samples and how they be coming Look, this is a shot a sample. Listen This is this ain't regular bro It's a shot a sample, bro And this probably one of my favorite songs right here This is me sauce walking in propane shout out propane man. Yeah propane. That's another one When that one coming out All right, it's coming out probably within the next month or so man. We got to do it right. It's coming I got the sample. It's crazy. Like it's a shot a sample I got to get into the crazy stuff now man. Uh will Smith get slapped Man, what do you think about that? Well, I mean will smith slaps chris rock. I said that wrong Will smith probably I don't know. He would if you came back. I don't know how he would Yeah, yeah, yeah, he didn't do it a little bit. Do you think it was real? No, no, no, hold on. Do you think that chris rock acted the way he's supposed to act being what he was the host Man, that man was acting professional probably but I ain't I ain't got no understanding Don't put your hands on me, but I don't know I don't know. He spoke okay Hold on, but hold on you heard what he said about his wife Was that something that was warranted for a slap though? Man, don't say nothing. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to tell you That's probably how will Smith and Will Smiths do so much, bro But let me let me let me say this let me say this it really ain't about Like it's certain things that be said in the in and niggas be trying to figure out man You gonna say this is niggas said that First of all, they was in the same room together And second of all it was the reaction that to the crowd No, no Jada her facial expression If I look at you and the niggas say something right now if he say something and and you react a certain way to it I need to do something. It's gonna be a problem. I need to do something because of the what the way you act If you tell me that nigga this or that nigga that He did this and you feel hurt then it's gonna hurt me Yeah, but look at this now. How many times have you been to comedy shows? Yeah, how many times you go to comedy shows? On the front row That's not that That's not that that's that's It's personal with these niggas Damn these niggas know this young nigga and the touched on my wife These niggas laughing at me bro. I'm gonna laugh and start like and it's her fault, but No, bro, you ain't finna keep bringing me up in these wars and all this my name ain't finna be the butter the joke Man of the year. That's how we'll feel So you feel like after he did that now ain't nobody gonna joke about him no more Ain't nobody saying nothing about we'll ever again and then you gotta understand Will is royalty man. We're the fresh prince. I'm the fresh prince. I do what I want to do I'm will you can't forget that. That's royalty. That's not fake. I'm the first prince. I yeah, I tripped out I yeah, I got out of line. Yeah That's dope man. That's dope, bro No, man, you was just one of them real ones, man, and we appreciate you for coming on the show man Is it any other ongoing political subjects that we can talk about that's happening out here that we need to ask sauce We're winning about No, they talked about what you saw you saw the article about Chris Rock brother went wild talking Yeah, he said he's on site when he see that nigga when they see will. Yeah, you see you see what I'm saying He don't care about that apology He said he said you don't want no apology. All right, so But I mean when it happened But hold on but but Chris rock had a had a show and um somebody in the audience he jumped up and like Yeah, well, yeah, will should have done that and he jumped up and he was defending Chris rock, but Chris rock had him escort it out of the place get out of here because he doesn't mind your business He didn't want to talk about that But his brother out there talking about it and causing a ruckus Man, that's my brother I don't care what he talking about my brother got me. I'm we the top. He's a face. You know, okay His brother ain't moving like this without no approval of Chris, right? Yeah, man, you the top to your brother in FaceTime and he said what he was gonna do He's all he got us fucked up. I'm finna go out here And Chris probably was like nah, man, we probably don't need to take it that far Fuck that Chris. He slept in front of the world. I'm doing this Fuck it. Chris agree with it and Chris came really stopped that you can't even do nothing But a lot of celebrities talking about I can't say you wrong. He's a co-nigger though But a lot of celebrities are talking out talking out against will why it's fake If you feel a will there's something wrong you fake because he ain't nothing wrong I'm telling you right now my brothers and my family certain niggas say certain things They already say I ain't nothing my partners. I'll be trying to tell them don't do this And they and I don't I don't never talk about it, but they always looking like If you against me if it's Yeah, cool, but if you on some shit like, yeah, let me go And the makers don't knock your shit back. They ride. They chipping for real Them niggas is chipping about anything. I can't do that right now. I can't go nowhere And if I'm out and about right now and with my people with me, bro And I'm talking to you it could have been just you and and and doing this As they should because because you are you are pretty much You're a breadwinner and you bring bread to the family So you do you do you the whole you know, like you we depending on you But we riding for you too if niggas trying to hurt what you doing We gonna ride because we because we gotta be here man. You gotta be here. Yeah. Yeah, you gonna make a habit So have you I mean and and we ain't gonna get in no crazy stuff But like have you been able to really figure it out you feel like in the music Are you worried right on course for where you want to be or is there something that that you're trying to attain That that you hadn't accomplished that you saying hey man, that's why I want to be in the next Next year, let me tell you a secret, bro. Let's talk I have no tape I have no tape out right now All of this friction is all features And pop outs and wow So you ready for your project. So I gotta put the project together for him. I got the song I was about to say what you wait now. No, I got the song. It ain't see. I don't want to rush it out there You feel me? I ain't it's cool. I you know, I'm doing what I'm doing I like what you're building up that exactly to answer his question I'm that's what I'm doing building up that anticipation to really get in a chest when I do drop my tape But the secret I have no tape bro. And yes, I feel like I'm exactly what I supposed to be I just did a song with jackboy in the video Man as to say that's something that a lot of people would would love to be on that level and do So, um, who have you never done a feature with that you would love to do a feature with? Um A lot of orders that I love Everybody always say Drake rather than Drake I just said it. They already know the done But we got something to work for until gonna hurt him Oh, man gonna hurt him man. You ever did a song to pay homage to him yet I got something that's kind of like it's real so sad. It's real I Got that sound to it like y'all. Okay. Yeah, I can see the inspiration from kiki right there probably You know man, that's dope, man. Hey, man. So did we miss anything? Did we miss anything southwood winning? Did we miss anything nigga? Did we turn everything over nigga? We turn everything over Everything What we looking for next who coming out with the next project with tsl At the next project with tsl it might be uh south go hunt Then I might be right behind south go hunt like I told you It's going down, man I'm trying to do it right for y'all because I don't want to I don't want to just drop and then like Oh, you're a dude dropped in this now. I want a bro drop. You heard Y'all ain't gonna The angle you gotta go get on broke. That's what I want to put in there. I want that I want that. That's what I'm really grinding for because I ain't I want that because when I do it. I'm not finna stop doing now. I didn't drop I got a drop next month. I got to drop the month after I got to stay in they chips One of them guys now. He wanted them guys one of them guys didn't been on boss talk one or one one of them guys He wanted them guys different now for us that nigga pull up He is love like he making he calling shots with us now. No, you better feel that over here We have both talk one on one what a boss talk man The worker can't come to the table man. This is what a boss is It man boss talk one on one man boss talk one on one the bosses talk to the bosses right here Hey, man, so thank you for coming on the show Bosses talk to the bosses with no losses I really really enjoyed this bro. I really really enjoyed coming I enjoyed coming giving my energy and feeling out and you pulled up like a real player like buy yourself nigga You don't need the niggas It's a grown man feel to it bro. Nah for sure. It's a real grown man feel to it And eat nigga better understand them niggas just pull up like we do. Yeah, we ready for all whatever come with it. I'm prepared I'm prepared. That's what I that's the difference with me and a lot of niggas. I'm prepared at any given moment in time My nigga, you ain't no running up on me and me thinking about what's been to happen I'm finna go. I'm finna survive man. That one of them boys just say they got that drill I'm finna survive Thank you, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment of boss talk one on one what a boss is talk What a boss is talk, man