 Are you wondering if you need Loopback to use Ecamm Live or to use Ecamm Live with Zoom? Well, the answer to both of them is not necessarily. So I'm going to tell you all about it in this video coming up. Hello, and welcome to Take One Tech. My name's Alec, and in this video, we're talking all about Loopback. And if you really need it, in fact, to use Ecamm Live or specifically to use Ecamm Live with Zoom, because if you've spent any time in the Ecamm Live community, which is absolutely great, by the way, go to facebook.com slash groups slash Ecamm Live. It's a great community to be a part of, full of wonderful people, and it's very supportive and encouraging people to help grow and learn from one another. So I highly recommend that. But a lot of people in there have probably heard people talking about Loopback and think maybe that it is a requirement to use Ecamm Live specifically with Zoom or Microsoft Teams or something like that. But in fact, you don't actually need it necessarily. There are some specific use cases where you may need it, but just to get all of the Ecamm goodness into your Zoom calls, it isn't entirely necessary. So what I thought I'd do is I'll show you how you actually get Ecamm Live and Audio into your Zoom and then we'll have a look at what are the use cases where you might actually need Loopback, and I'll show you how to set those up as well. So let's go straight into the Zoom and Ecamm Live part. I should point out that this is actually a demo feature. It's not a demo feature. I'm gonna give you a demo of the feature, but it is a pro feature. So you do need to have an Ecamm Live pro account to do this. And what it is, is this function called virtual camera. And I will now give you a demo of this. If I go into demo mode, excuse me, and I'll come into output is where you'll find it. And here we have virtual cam and you want to make sure that that is switched on. As a default, it will be in the off position, but you just want to make sure that that is toggled to on. And what you can see is we've now got this little, oh, my screen controls disappear when I zoom in, but it's this little button here, this little symbol rather is not a button. So that is now simulating a video source or a camera source rather, virtually in the machine. So if I come over to my zoom settings for one second and I'll come over to share my screen might help as well. And I'll come out of demo mode. Too many buttons to press at once for me. This is, there we go. Come out of my demo mode might help. And then I'll come back over to my screen sharing. And what you'll see is this is now in my zoom controls. So here where you can select your camera because I have now toggled that virtual camera on in Ecamm Live, you'll see as well as all of my other camera sources, we've also, I've got to get rid of that one, OBS virtual camera, I haven't used that for a long time. You can now see that we've got Ecamm Live at virtual cam. So I'll click on that one. And as you can see, it is now picking up my audio, my video feed from my Ecamm Live. So that is how simple it is to get my video from Ecamm Live into zoom. But what about my audio? What do we do about that? Well, the fact is, if you are just going to be doing sort of normal presentations in zoom, or you just want to use it for, as I say, some of its green screen functionality or things like that, then all you need to do is go to audio and just make sure that your microphone is selected. There is no difficulty in that. It is still picking up my microphone, just as it normally would. As you can see, my short MV7, which by the way, I did a review of, I think it's a great mic. I'll leave a link to the mic and the review in the description below, but yeah, it just works. So now you can have all of the green screen effects, any overlays, things like that, bring in your PowerPoint presentation or keynote presentation into your Ecamm Live production and have that going out to zoom. There's no problem with that whatsoever. The question is, when do you need loot back? So I'll tell you about that one next. Before I do, I'll just mention one little zoom feature that I think some people may not be aware of. So I at the moment have my speaker as my headphones, in-ear monitors, which are plugged into my MV7. So that's why it's coming up as my audio source. But there is a little toggle here. If you do leave your headphones plugged in, because it's always better to have calls on headphones in my mind, leads to much better audio quality for all involved. But if you do then sometimes you may not hear ringtones and things like that. So there is a little toggle here. Use separate audio device to play ringtones simultaneously. So if you toggle that on, then you can select another set of speakers. So for example, this is my monitor, has built-in speakers. So I select that. So then when I get any zoom calls starting, then I do actually get the ringtone playing out loud into the room. But then obviously the main audio is coming on there. Just a little small thing I thought I'd mention because I think a lot of people don't realize it's there in the settings. But anyway, that is a little bit of a digression. So the question is, when might you need to use Loopback? Well, that is for if you want to use Ecum Live, where you have a, maybe you want to bring in a guest into your Ecum Live, because there is obviously in the pro version of Ecum Live, which you'll have if you're linking in with Zoom, then there is interview mode, which allows you to bring guests into your Ecum Live production. So imagine if you were say presenting to a group through Zoom, where you wanted to have guests on and interview them as part of your Ecum Live production, then that is where you would use Loopback because what you'd have there is you would be speaking in your mic, which your guest on your Ecum Live guest would be hearing and your Zoom people would be hearing your mic because your mic would be going through to Zoom. However, the Zoom sound would not be feeding back into your guest and your guest's sound would not be feeding back into your Zoom calls. Another reason why you might want to use Loopback is because you might be actually having a Zoom webinar or something like that, and you may actually, or meeting, and you may actually want to stream that over to not using the Zoom streaming, but using Ecum Live, stream that to YouTube or Facebook or something like that. And there you would have exactly the same problem. The Zoom sound would not be coming through into Ecum Live to then be broadcast. So that is what we are talking about when we are talking about Loopback with Ecum Live and Zoom. So maybe I should tell you exactly what Loopback is. So if I come over to my other screen and I will show you, get a few windows out of the way, exactly what Loopback is. Well, it is essentially a program that you can create virtual audio devices and you can also sort of root the sound, the audio signals through your computer from one place to another. And that's perhaps a very, very high level overview. It's gonna make a lot more sense when I actually just show you how to do it. I'm gonna show you now how to set up the audio devices, the two audio devices that you need to get the signal from going both ways from Zoom to Ecum Live. So I'm gonna start by just clicking on here. We've got a blank Loopback instance here. So I'm gonna click on new audio device. Now what I want to create here is I want to create a, we've got a virtual camera that is coming out of Ecum Live. So now I want to create a virtual mic to come out of Ecum Live. So let's call this Ecum Live virtual mic. Okay, so this is where we're going to create this virtual mic. Now, as a default, when you set up a new virtual device, it will automatically have this output. So this is the output of this virtual mic, simulating the output of a real mic. And then this is the source. Now, as a default, it will put this pass through in and the pass through allows basically you to pass any audio into this from other sources and it pass through. But that isn't what we want. We want to be more specific about it. Incidentally, I did a video all about how I use Audio Hijack and I'll leave the link to that in the description below. And if you did watch that video yesterday, when I posted it or maybe today or whenever you watched it in time, I made it yesterday. But in that one, I talked about how I had created a virtual device in Loopback and this is just how I did it. It's basically just the default device was my virtual device because then I passed the audio from Audio Hijack into the pass through. Anyway, I digress. Let's talk about how we're gonna set up this Ecamm Live virtual mic. This can be deleted. We do not need that at all because we want to be very specific, as I said. We want to just pass the audio from my mic and from Ecamm Live. So I'm going to press on the little plus button here and select the application as Ecamm Live. And you can see that what that's doing is it's just taking the left and right channels from Ecamm Live and putting it into our output. But I also want to add into that my microphone. So I'm gonna come down here and I'm gonna come down to my microphone, which is my Shure MV7. Now what you'll notice here is that my microphone is a single channel. Obviously it's a single channel mic. But what this is doing is it's actually splitting the signal to go to both the left and right of the output. So it will sound like it's coming from both sides. So that actually is all there is to it. It's now taking the audio from Ecamm Live and the audio from my microphone and putting it out to this output device called Ecamm Live virtual mic. Now if I just bring my settings back up here, as if by magic, if I go down to my microphone setting in Zoom and then I click the little drop down, then somewhere in here, we should, I might need to just toggle it on and off again actually. One second, I toggle this off and on. Then what we should see is the Ecamm Live virtual mic has now shown up there. So I'll just select that one. And what you can also see is now I've got my Ecamm Live virtual mic selected and those little input levels are still bouncing around. And that's because it is still obviously picking up my microphone. And if I was to be playing anything through Ecamm Live, it would be picking that up as well. So that is basically how we do it. We've got one half of the process done and now what we need to do is we need to do the same in reverse to get the signal back from the Zoom into Ecamm Live. So now we're going to create another virtual device. So I'm going to click on this one and I'm going to call this one Zoom virtual mic. Incidentally, I would always recommend that you use the actual source as the name. So rather than thinking, well, this is going to feed into Ecamm Live. So let's call it Ecamm. We want to have the source in the title because then you can use it to root to anywhere and you'll always know where it is coming from. So for example, my Ecamm Live virtual mic, I can now set up one of these for Microsoft Teams and I can now use it rather in Microsoft Teams. And so calling it by the source is in my mind the best naming convention for this. So with the source, again, we need to just take out this pass through because we don't need that. And then we also need to come in here and we need to add in the Zoom, which is this one. And there is also the microphone, MV7. So that is now doing the same thing. Now there's one setting that I need to tell you about that you need to activate on both of these. So first of all is in this one where we've got these options. We've got options for the microphone. We can adjust the levels if we want to adjust those levels at all so that you will have one louder than other. If you have multiple microphones, you can do some sort of managing of those levels in here. But specifically we want this one to be unchecked, mute when capturing. And that means that when this is operational, we don't want it to actually mute the sound coming out of Zoom because we want to still be able to hear it in our monitors. So we're gonna toggle that one off and we're going to do the same in the Ecamm Live as well. We've also got the option here to mute when capturing. So we're going to turn that one off as well. So the last step then is to actually bring the Zoom feed into Ecamm Live. So let's do that now. I'll come into my demo mode again. And then basically you'll see down at the bottom and I should just point out if I've got Ecamm Live open when you set this up, you may need to just exit it and restart it again as I've had to do in order for it to show up. But basically in your audio settings, so don't forget that you've got audio settings as this little window on the side. You can click this button here just up there somewhere to show and hide your sound levels. Or you can change it from your mic settings here. You can select the mic from there. But let me just show you in this dropdown box. You can see here we've got this Zoom virtual mic. So that is the microphone that we set up, the virtual mic. So that is what you would select in Ecamm Live. And that is about it. You've now got your Ecamm Live sound and your mic going into Zoom. And you've got your Zoom sound coming into Ecamm Live. And that is how and why you would use Ecamm Live loopback. So I hope that that has helped and answered some questions about when and if you would need loopback. If you found that useful, please go and like and subscribe to the channel and turn on notifications so that you get notified whenever I make a new video. But as always, you don't have to wait too long. I've got more videos coming up next. And I'll also leave a link to another playlist for you as well. Have a great day.