 Good evening and welcome to this community meeting to share the designs for city of Santa Rosa's local road safety plan. We're north.navenu corridor between West 3rd. And West college Avenue. I'm Rob Springle, the director of traffic engineering with the city of Santa Rosa, and I want to thank you for joining us tonight. Live interpretation can be heard on the Spanish channel and you could join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon that resembles a globe in the zoom toolbar on your screen. Close captioning captioning is also available at the bottom of your screen. Before we begin the presentation, our interpreter Pablo will translate this introduction, followed by our host. Kimberly or Steve excuse me with the city of Santa Rosa who explained how the meeting will work. Pablo. Buenas noches y bienvenidos a esta reunión comunitaria para el plan local de seguridad via la ciudad de Santa Rosa que se centra en el corredor de north. I'm Dan Taylor and I'm the director of the national parkway between West 3rd street and West college Avenue. So it rubs sprinkle sub director the territory of the traffic of the city of Santa Rosa y quiero agradecerles o acompañarnos a night. Interpretation en vivo se puede oír en el canal de español, puede unirse al canal de español haciendo click en el icono de interpretación que aparece en como un globo terráqueo a este momento, en la barra de funciones de su pantalla de zoom. Antes de comenzar la presentación nuestra fricción, Shelly, con la ciudad de Santa Rosa, explicará cómo funcionará la reunión. All right. Thank you, Pablo. Currently in our Spanish room, we have Roberto who is translating into Spanish. As community members join the meeting, you'll be participating as an attendee. Your microphone and camera will be muted. Only today's panelists will be viewed during the meeting. At the end of our presentation, Rob will open up the meeting for public questions and comment. At that time, you'll be directed to raise your virtual hands and all comments will be taken in the order they appear on the screen. Any written comments will be read at the end of the public comments. Please refrain from raising your hand or commenting until the end of the presentation as we are unable to respond during the presentation. Please know the city of Santa Rosa is committed to creating a safe and inclusive environment free from disruption. We will not tolerate any hateful speech or actions and will monitor that everyone is participating respectfully or they will be removed. If necessary, we will also immediately end the meeting. This meeting is being recorded and will be placed on the city website following the meeting. Thank you, Steve. Once again, I want to thank you for joining us tonight. Your participation and your input are important to us as we share with you the design for improving safety on our city roadways for all users. This design is based on community feedback from our meeting and survey this past spring. We'll start tonight's meeting with an overview of the agenda and topics we plan to cover. The project description, the timeframe, we'll go through the presentation of the design options, we'll then open it up for public comment and go over next steps. So for starting with the project description, so tonight, as I mentioned, this is the local road safety plan we are sharing with you tonight and we're sharing with you the design options or the design that we came up with on North Dutton Avenue. These improvements will include bike lane installations, lane reductions and pedestrian enhancements along this corridor. For the time frames, we're actually unsure of the implementation time of this project. I say this because we did apply for a grant to construct this project on a faster pace over the summer, but we recently heard that we were not awarded that grant. So that doesn't mean that we won't do the project and it won't get done, we just need to find another funding source to be able to proceed with the construction of the project. So we also look at segmenting this project into smaller pieces as funding becomes available. So our intent tonight is to continue to move forward with the design and show that to you where we are to gather your feedback and to share with you the feedback that we did here in the spring and how that helped focus our design. So following the presentation, we'll open the meeting up for comments, questions and concerns. And as I get to the presentation, if you take note of the slide number, which will be in the bottom right-hand corner of the slides, if you want to comment on a specific slide, then we could reference that during the question and answer period. So now we'll begin with the presentation. Next slide please. So the local road safety plan is a plan, there's a grant that we received to focus safety improvements on specific corridors throughout the city. These corridors were identified in our bicycle pedestrian master plan and included 4th Street between Farmers Lane and E Street Montgomery Drive, between Hammond Drive and Alderbrook Drive, Stony Point Road between West 3rd and Sebastville Road, College between 4th Street and Cowell, North Dutton between West 3rd and West College Avenue and then a section of the Rosen Creek Trail. And the important portion of why we are gathering this information is that it makes us eligible to apply for various grants and specifically the H-SIP grant, which is the Highway Safety Improvement Program grant, which is where we do get portions of our funding for these type of bicycle and pedestrian safety improvements. Next slide please. So now I'm gonna go over the length of the corridor, talk about the existing conditions on the segments and then go to what we're planning to install as far as our proposed designs for the segments and listen to, and then we'll get into the question and answer and feedback from the public. So the first section, if you wanna orient yourself, West College is actually to the left and North Dutton is in the left-right plane of the aerial shown. And section A is where we took the cross section of the roadway showing the existing conditions. So currently there's two lanes in each direction, travel lanes, a center turn lane and a parking lane on the east side of the street. Next slide please. So through the feedback we heard on our initial design proposals and feedback from the meeting, we modified the design that we had previously proposed to install protected bike lanes in the southbound direction where we have a six-foot bike lane, a nine-foot buffer with a vertical element, 11-foot travel lane, maintaining the two-way left turn lane, a southbound travel lane and then a parking lane. And the parking lane would be set away from the curb with a buffer and bike lane against the curb, again, producing a protected bike lane along that side of the road. So this is definitely safer for cyclists and it helps create a buffer even for the pedestrians who are using the sidewalk along this section of street. It adds traffic calming measures to help slow speeds by narrowing the travel lanes and still provides for the parking that's currently there without any elimination. We also looked at the capacity of the roadway and the capacity does allow for us to remove a traveling and keep the same flow of traffic. At the actual intersection of college, we would maintain the two travel lanes in the northbound direction and we would be merging the travel lanes in the southbound direction from two lanes to one lane in that segment just directly south of the intersection of West College. Next slide, please. The next cross-section that we looked at is the cross-section just north of West Ninth Street near Maxwell Court. This section of roadway currently has, again, two travel lanes in each direction and a two-way left-hand turn lane and there is a small shoulder on the east side of the roadway. Next slide, please. This section of roadway we're also proposing that we install buffered bike lanes in both directions with 11-foot travel lanes, 12-foot center turn lane and, again, providing the extra buffer for bikes and pedestrians along this segment. Now, there is also an opportunity that we could potentially add some additional parking on the east side of the roadway to continue that in this direction around the corner and that's something that we're looking at as well. Next slide, please. So this segment of roadway is just south of West Ninth Street and before I move into this segment, I just want to comment on the intersection of West Ninth Street and Dutton. So that would actually, instead of maintaining two travel lanes in the north and south direction right at the intersection, we would be converting one of those travel lanes to a right-turn drop lane in both the north and south directions. Moving further south or on the right on this picture, looking at the cross-section of the existing conditions, we have parking on the west side of the street here to two 10-foot travel lanes, 11-foot center turn lane, and then two 10-foot travel lanes in the northbound direction in this segment of roadway. This section of roadway is a little bit narrower than the other section, it's only 58 feet in width. Next slide, please. So in this section of roadway, we're planning to install buffer bike lanes in the southbound directions that would be protected with the parking from the residents along that section of roadway. So there would be a six-foot southbound bike lane, a three-foot buffer, then the parking, 11-foot traveling in the southbound direction, a 10-foot two-way left turn lane, and then a northbound 11-foot traveling with a three-foot buffer and six-foot bike lane. So the northbound section of this would not have enough room to put in an actual protected bike lane on this segment. Next slide, please. Oh, I'm sorry, keep it here for a second. I also wanted to mention that also along this segment, we'd be looking to install some pedestrian improvements at a rectangular rapid flashing beacon, or RFB, at the West Ninth Street intersection. We're also looking at crossings at Herbert and at installing crosswalks at Herbert and Boy Street in this segment, which is related to feedback we received from the public in the last meeting. Next slide, please. So moving on to the final segment, which is closer to the intersection of West Third. This segment has parking on the west side for some apartments that are towards West Third, two 12-foot travel lanes, a 12-foot center turn lane, and a 12-foot northbound lane, and then a 13-foot northbound lane. So this is a little bit wider than the rest of the segments. Next slide, please. So this segment of road we were proposing to maintain the two southbound travel lanes with the two-way left turn lane. And the reason for that is our observations of this intersection, this southbound direction does back up quite a bit in the evening peak and sometimes in the AM peak. And during that time, we wanna maintain the capacity of that intersection. And if we reduce it down to a single lane, then that will actually increase the queue length quite a bit in the north on Dutton. And by doing that, we wanna avoid people trying to go through the neighborhood because I think it'll be faster to go through the neighborhood and take an alternate route if they're that far back in the queue. So we wanna maintain that they have the ability to stack and be as efficient as possible at that intersection. Even with maintaining those two lanes in the southbound direction, we're still able to have a single travel lane in the northbound direction after it merges just after we passed the intersection of West 3rd Street. We have the two-way left turn lane and quite a large buffer lane on the northbound direction and a protected bike lane with a buffer and parking in the southbound direction. Next slide, please. So the design that we came up with is a result of the meeting that we held back in the spring, I believe it was in March. And some of the community feedback that we received from that meeting and from the survey that we sent out was that the road diet is a good solution for this roadway and many people's opinion. They wanted us to consider adding crosswalk at Boyce, Decker and Hewitt. Which we are doing. We wanted to add flashing beacons at the crosswalks, again, which is, one is planned for West 8th Street. We would likely put one at Hewitt and at Boyce if those were installed as well. And the reason we didn't consider putting a crossing at Decker is if we do put a crossing at Boyce and we have one at West 9th Street, Decker is another street. It tees into Dutton. So we do have two good options on either side of that street to continue in a direction of travel that would be coming from one of those two directions. Also comments received was to maximize the buffered and protected bike lanes were possible. And we did that in to consider shifting the parking adjacent to the traveling, which we are also showing in our proposed design. Slowing the speed of vehicles, which by narrowing the lanes and providing only the single lane of travel we do, we get rid of the racing field when we have two vehicles. Competing with one another potentially. And by narrowing the lane, it also helps to control the speeds of vehicles. The merge in the northbound direction soon after West 3rd intersection was the distance there before the merge was minimized, which was a comment we heard. We're still meeting the standards. And then to remove the sidewalk gaps. And that's something that we are also looking to do. There's some sidewalk gaps on the west side of the street between 9th Street and Decker. And then again, between West 8th and Trowbridge. Install leading pedestrian intervals. I believe this is something that our technicians may have taken care of at West 9th Street. And I'll check back on that. And to maintain, and then another comment we did, it really had, we had a couple of these comments that they wanted us to maintain the existing travel lanes. And to help with this comment, we did the observations and we looked at locations where we felt that maintaining the existing travel lanes would benefit. And so we did that in the southbound direction at West 3rd and in the northbound direction at college to maintain the capacity through those intersections. Next slide please. So we did get some community feedback from the survey responses. We received 17 surveys of those 17. 10, their top priority was to improve bicycling. Three was to improve the walking and the walking, the pedestrian experience. Three wanted us to retain the vehicle lanes. And one wanted to improve the aesthetics along the section of roadway. Next slide please. So with that, I would like to open it up to public comments. However, before I begin, I'd like to ask Steve to review how you can participate by asking the live questions and giving your comments. All right, terrific Rob, thank you. Once Rob calls for public questions or comments, we will announce for anyone wishing to ask a question or make a comment to raise their hand and zoom. For individuals participating in the meeting by telephone, you can dial star nine to raise your hand. We will then call on the public one by one who have their zoom hand raised. Your microphone will be unmuted. So you may ask your question. Once you've raised your hand and asked your question or shared your input, your hand will be lowered and your microphone muted. Great, thanks Steve. Are we ready for our first question? Indeed we are. The first person in our queue is Gene Byers Spritz. Well, Gene, your microphone has been unmuted. You can state your name for the record if you so choose and then ask your question and make a comment. Okay, well, thank you. Yes, I'm Gene Byers Spritz and thank you for this opportunity. I would encourage someone to drive the streets at night during a rain and see how the reflectors on the streets do nothing to help a person unfamiliar with the area on where to drive. You know, there are some more powerful ones in front of Mwali's garden there, I think the county section that actually do reflect but some of these white bumpity bumps do nothing and especially at night and during a rain. I also hope that the city is looking into the safety and beautification of that area because my husband and I walk that and sometimes we end up in the street hoping we don't get a hit and run because it's impossible to walk the sidewalks. You know, there's rose bushes that if you're on blood thinner you have to watch out for. There's places a wheelchair can't go through. You have to walk single file and not enjoy walking with your partner. The trees don't have eight foot head clearance. You know, and I'm not here just to complain because there are ways to remediate these. Maybe do some marketing on Earth Day and Arbor Day for homeowners to go out and check their sidewalks or actually have city employees do something when a complaint is sent. I sent one over a year and a half ago and still am waiting for something to happen on that area of the sidewalk. Increase the fines and notifications to homeowners. Just some way to lessen the chance of me getting hit on the street because I can't use the sidewalks. And that's my comments. Thank you. Thanks, Ginny. Okay, great. Our next person in the queue is Chris Eggers. Chris, your microphone has been unmuted. You can state your name for the record if you so choose and then ask your question or make your comment. Hi, this is Chris Eggers. And the first thing I want to say is, wow, this is amazing. I'm really impressed with the work that's been done and the input that has been incorporated. Thank you so much. I have one comment and then two questions. The first is if there isn't funding, is there a way to do a quick build to test the concept before actually doing a permanent build and the quick build might save some money and also give a chance to make sure that these concepts work before making it more permanent? The other question is, are the bike lanes contiguous from West College Lane to Third Avenue? I'm assuming that they continue the whole route. They're just the only changes between buffered and protected. Well, maybe there's three questions. Oh, the other question is northbound from Santa Rosa Creek to West Third. That doesn't make sense. Sorry, my question doesn't make sense even to me. Oh, from southbound from Santa Rosa Creek to West Third, why isn't that section protected as just buffered? And I'm sorry, my notes are confusing to me. Maybe you can figure that out. But all in all, it looks really amazing and good work. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. So I think I can cover those questions for you. So we actually did apply for, the grant we applied for was actually a quick build grant that we were denied. So, but I do understand your concept about, you know, trying to get some striping on the ground is as soon as possible. And that's the funding we need to search for. The bike lanes are contiguous along this entire segment and that yet they will just be changing from a protected to a buffered in several locations. And then on the west side, yes, from the creek to West Third, there would be a portion that's buffered and then with a large buffer and then it would go to a buffered with the parking adjacent. So it would be protected via the parking. So it would be a protective bike lane along the apartments where the parking's allowed. And then actually right at the intersection it narrows a little bit. It's kind of as a weird curb alignment and it does narrow a little bit right at the intersection West Third where it would just be a buffered bike lane to a bike lane right at the intersection. But the majority of it would be, the majority of the entire segment would be buffered or protected. Next caller place or next hand. All right, the next person in our queue is Aris Weaver. Aris, your microphone's been unmuted and you can state your name for the record if you so choose and then ask your question or make a comment. Thank you. Aris Weaver with the Sonoma County Bicycle Coalition. Good job. I am extremely pleased to see the combo of buffered and protected bike lanes all through here. Thank you for hearing all of our comments and implementing them. I know that this will be the first time we've had parking protected bike lanes and that might take some folks, especially drivers, a little time to get used to but I think this is so the right direction that we're wanting to go. So I'm very happy to see all of that. Tagging on a little bit what Ms. Eggers said in terms of visualizing the whole flow. I know that for you engineering types looking at those cross sections is the way that you plot things out but that's not our experience as we ride down the street. So what I keep wishing that I could see in any of these presentations is like an aerial view of the whole project with maybe as it is and then the new striping overlaid on top so that I can get a sense of the whole thing. It is really hard to visualize that when you're looking at little chunk by chunk by chunk. So that's just a wish list for future presentations that would help folks maybe get a better sense of seeing how it'll be all the way through and not just at individual spots. And then just my last comment is not so much about this piece but really hoping that it's not gonna be too long before some of these kind of improvements are extended south of this project area cause I know that needs some work as well a shepherd elementary student was the victim of a hit and run crossing Dutton on his way to school not that long ago. And there's definitely a lot of improvements that need to be done in some of those underserved neighborhoods. Thank you. Great, thank you, Aris. And I will try to get a more comprehensive design plot for that when this goes to the bike board which I'm gonna cover in a little bit but which will be in December. But I'm not gonna guarantee it but I'll try to get that design ready and plotted for that meeting. Steve, next person please. The next person and our cue is Larry. Larry, your microphone has been unmuted. You can state your name for the record if you so choose and then ask your question or make a comment. Thank you, Larry Fields. My wife and I are residents of the Trowbridge neighborhood and we would second Jeannie on the condition of sidewalks and the walkability of the neighborhoods which is the primary reason I tuned in. Love the plan, love the bike paths. Little bit concerned about the reduction of lanes beyond the creek. We often find evening times, especially in poor weather, the traffic backs up beyond our street on the entrance. Mostly this is just feedback and I'm not sure where your authority or planning goes but I understand much of the county areas are small strips of it in there, sidewalks and road maintenance. Previously under the county had been lacking. There's no curbs and gutters. Streets are patched potholes. Would love to find a way into at least the awareness of your department on fixing those things and I'll wind up on just the sidewalks themselves as if the project is limited in scope to the Dutton Corridor. Other than the creek trail, I really like the design part of it, the bike paths. I didn't hear a lot of mention about what the sidewalks would be and even as I'm looking at this picture, aesthetically I appreciate the value of trees but in terms of walkability, those are single lane sidewalks. I think someone else mentioned being forced to walk into the street. The ability to walk side by side with a companion on the sidewalks, I think adds aesthetically to the neighborhood and certainly to the safety of a main corridor like this for pedestrians. There's a lot starting to develop in the downtown Santa Rosa area. These neighborhoods have been long neglected and I think deserve some attention for the livability for the current residents as they age and need to have that pedestrian friendly community that allows them access to the downtown and the railroad square area. Thank you very much. Great, thanks Larry. Yeah, our first focus would be for the gaps and sidewalks where we don't have. Sorry, there we go. The first focus would be on the sidewalk gaps where we currently don't have any sidewalk is where we focus the effort for this project and this project is limited to the scope for this current project is limited to Dutton Avenue between college and West Third. If there are, if you do have specific potholes we do have a pothole line or you can call our standard line which is 707-543-3800 and report a pothole in a location maybe with the address or you could also go on to our city website and there's a location. I believe it's if you put in my Santa Rosa I believe that will help you guide you to a location where you could report a pothole as well. Okay, I think I got most of your things and thank you for your comments. All right, the next person in our queue is Stephanie Myler. Stephanie, your microphone's been unmuted. You can state your name for the record if you so choose and then ask your question or make your comment. Stephanie, I'm sorry to interrupt. Steve, I just got a message from our translators that because of timing we wanna go ahead and switch them so if we can take a moment to do that before we entertain Stephanie's comments, please. Definitely, give me just one moment. Thank you everyone for your patience. Okay, sorry about the delay. So again, Stephanie, your mic is unmuted. You should be able to state your name for the record if you wish and then ask your question or make a comment. Hi, this is Stephanie Myler and yeah, this is really great as anyone that lives in this area or right off towards that and as I do knows that it's a big problem. So this is great news and it looks like a great plan. I do have a question. I've been trying for several years, literally. I live on Saracen, which if you look at the design of that street, we all know that people speed down North Dutton at high speeds. And because of the poor design of Saracen where it connects with North Dutton, they literally have no need to slow down. So they come off the speeds of North Dutton onto Saracen, which is 25 miles an hour. And there's been several accidents that have happened. Car drove into a business that's right across the street from me on Saracen. Someone drove into my fence and if it wasn't metal, they probably would have been in my living room. Every time anyone on that street comes out of the block just jump on this. But I mean, it's so closely related to North Dutton. I'd like to know what can be done about this and what's the plan? I mean, I've talked to multiple people over several years with zero results. Thanks, Stephanie. I think you've talked to me at one point. I probably have. So, and I'm familiar with the exact issue you're talking about and there was at one point a development that was being planned for one of the parcels along there and it was conditioned with that development to install a speed hump right across from the pork chop island in that northbound direction. So as you were coming in that northbound direction, I believe a speed hump was going to be installed. And that is probably one of the only places I think that we've approved a speed hump to be installed, I'd say in the last probably five to seven years because the fire department is not allowing them anymore and they thought that this was an okay location to put one. So we were waiting for that development to go in so that they could put it in with there as part of their improvement plans. And so I will check in on that. And I think I still probably do have your email. So I will check back in with you once I find that information back. So thank you for your comment. Okay, the next person in our queue is Mark Mortensen. Mark, your mic has been unmuted. If you state your name for the record, if you so choose and ask your question or make a comment. Great, thank you, yes. Mark Mortensen, I'm a West End resident. I live a couple blocks off of Dutton here on West 8th. Number one, just wanted to say I really support the plan. I appreciate the efforts of the people who have provided input earlier and earlier meetings and the efforts of staff to make this happen. Couple quick questions, I also wanted to say that, if Eris Weaver supports it, then it's a good thing. So I really appreciate that. Wondering if on some of the bike lanes that aren't protected but have barriers there that are sheltered, what's the terminology? Anyway, part of them, some of them were showing vertical uprights, just those little yellowish vertical things. Wondering if it's possible for those to be installed on the other ones that are not protected, on the other bike lanes not protected. That was one question. Other question was, what's the proposed speed limit for the traffic going through there now? Obviously fewer lanes, hopefully slowing down, but I didn't see any reference to that. Last question was, what are leading pedestrian intervals? And that was it. It would be great to get some landscaping in there on some of those areas where there are buffers. You know, maybe some areas that could be planted strips or something. I know it's a cost, but it's a big chunk of pavement running right through and very wide and maybe getting some greenery in there would be great. Again, thank you so much. Great, thank you. So I think I got all your questions and I'll go through them as you asked them. So the vertical element that we showed was not shown on some of the buffers because we need to provide a certain width for the street sweepers to get in there. And if we put the vertical elements, we need to make sure that there's enough room to still provide that street super access, otherwise we'll never be able to sweep the street until we get a smaller street sweeper. So that's the reason for... And I showed the vertical elements in the center on the nine foot buffer, which it may not be directly in the center. It may be closer to the travel lane just to make sure that we have that room that we need to get the sweeper in there. So that might be a limitation to the software that we're using to indicate that. I agree it would be wonderful to have some type of something a little nicer than just the bollards there. It's a huge cost difference. So we have to look at, do we want to implement this, implement it with the bollards or implement it with a planter strip, and the costs associated with those are pretty big. So I would rather install it sooner with the bollards and come back later if we can and install it with the greenery just to get it implemented. But I'm willing to hear from the public on that. The speed limits, so I think I skipped the speed limit. So the speed limit is currently I believe 35 on this roadway. After the design is implemented, we resurvey it and see where the speed then lies because we do use the 85th percentile to help us determine what the speed limit is along the street, which is where we go out. We do a radar survey of the street. We take the information of what the 85th percentile is and 85th percentile is 85% of those vehicles are going at a specific speed or less. That means 15% are going at a speed a little bit higher than that. And that's what we use and that's what the state uses to set speed limits. So there's also another build that was passed. It's called AB 43, which has some other stipulations to it which may help us lower the speed limit, but the state is actually still working on some language and rules on how to do that so that we can still use radar to enforce those speed limits. So yes, we would definitely be looking at the change in speed limit once the improvements were implemented. For example, we've done that on Hopper Avenue. The speed limit there was 40 miles an hour with a very similar configuration to this, and we were able to reduce that down to 35 once the changes were made and we resurveyed that street segment. And then your last question was, what is a leading pedestrian interval? So that's where we have the pedestrian actually, when a pedestrian button is pushed, the pedestrian actually gets served about five to seven seconds ahead of the vehicles being released from the queue. So it gives the pedestrian time to establish themselves in the crosswalk prior to any of the other vehicular movements going in that direction. All right, Steve, we're ready for the next question. All right, our next person in our queue is Sunti Lozano. Sunti, your microphone has been unmuted and you can state your name for the record if you so choose and then ask your question or make a comment. Hello, my name is Sunti Lozano and just to give a little context, I'm the shop manager of Santa Rosa Tyres Plus right on the corner of North Dutton and West Ninth. So when I saw this planning and the webinar, I was definitely very interested in joining in and just seeing what's the plan for this section of road. I've grown up in this area and my family business has been there for 20 plus years. I've grown up just watching the traffic and seeing the flow of traffic and just the overall general area and also seeing a lot of traffic accidents in the intersection of West Ninth and North Dutton. And so with that, with seeing this over the years and with seeing the new, the plans for it, I think it's definitely a good idea to try to slow down traffic because not to be disrespectful to anybody, but man, the traffic through the area is definitely very fast. Everybody drives very fast through this intersection through this area. It's just a very high traffic area. And so with the new plans, I definitely think it's somewhat of a good idea. I'm kind of like 50-50 on breaking down the lanes just because it's such a high traffic area. I understand like adding the buffering areas and the combed off areas for the bike lanes and that eliminates one lane, but I just feel that that will add to the traffic of the area and there's already so many inpatient drivers out there in this area that they feel like they need to speed. They feel like they need to get to where they are going very quickly. And that's just one concern that I have about the lane change for this area. And so that's just kind of like a little, I feel like a big thing that the area needs to consider when making these changes. I guess just one question that I have is if this is gonna go through, when do you think that that would happen? Just because I feel like with the construction of that, that may impact the businesses in the area. And because I feel like if there's a lot of construction and a lot of things going on that may want to divert people from the area at the time to come into the area. So being that there were a lot of traffic, a lot of people come into the area and you're looking to come to the businesses in that area that may affect business in general. But overall, I feel like it's definitely a good idea to add these safety things and just overall project of adding more walkability, more bike ability, and then kind of hopefully kind of slowing down the traffic if possible. But that's just my main concern is this area is definitely a high speed area. A lot of people definitely do drive very fast to this area. I definitely see being on the corner of northwest ninth, see just accidents in that intersection. I see a lot of speeding on the daily. So I'm just hoping that this can help that. But then again, you're talking about a lot of, there's still a lot of traffic that goes through this area. So I hope that can help. Great. Yeah. So I understand the concern about lane reductions and we don't take that lightly when we look at the different locations that we're proposing to do that. This location, the volumes definitely support the ability to have a lane reduction. Similar locations where we've done this over the years, just to give some examples, Mission Boulevard, we've gone from four lanes or five lanes to three, Calistoga Road, we've gone from five lanes to three. Those are both in the 14 to 15,000 vehicles a day. They still have a very similar number of vehicles a day. It's not even more. And they still flow very, very well. So the volume is something that we definitely concern before, we look at before we even consider modifying the lanes to the lane reduction. But we also want to provide bike lanes, obviously, and safety for all users. And that's definitely a council goal that we have. The other thing you mentioned is during the construction, how does that work? We definitely notify all the businesses and work with them during a construction project in order to help minimize the disruption. It depends on what is going to be done as far as are we just going to be changing the striping? Are we going to be changing the striping? Because we don't have the funding right now, I can't give you a when. So, but if it turns out that we end up changing the striping, then we're doing a slurry seal or changing the striping, we're doing a paving job. Those will have a little bit more impact than just changing the striping on its own because they're much larger projects. But at this point, I can't tell you exactly what that disruption might be or how long it may be. But we would be sending up changeable message signs telling the public that there's going to be construction during these certain dates, during these certain times. We can give them alternate routes through the area. And typically we maintain at least one lane of travel through the area at all times because we need it for emergency response. We need it for our bus routes. We need it for people just to get to where they're going. So we don't intentionally disrupt traffic just to do a project. We try to make everything kind of cohesively work together. So, but I do appreciate your concern. And I do hear what you're saying. So thank you. Steve, do any more comments? We do Rob Chris Eggers. Your, your mic has been unmute has been unmuted. You can state your name for the record again, if you so choose and ask for question, make your comment. Hi, Chris Eggers here again. Just one question I forgot to ask about what is happening to facilitate bicycle left turn southbound onto nice street. So two things can be done. Currently, I believe we do have cameras at the intersection that will detect a bike in the left turn lane. The other option would be to do a two stage crossing at that location if the person is not in entitled to want to take the left turn lane. So they would do it. They would cross the street and then either enter the crosswalk or enter the traveling to cross in the eastbound direction. Okay, Rob, at this point, I see no more hands raised in the queue. All right. Does anyone else has any questions now is the time. Okay, next slide please. So moving on to the next steps for the project. So we will be taking this item to the bicycle pedestrian advisory board on December 15th. At that time, I'll try to have a little bit more comprehensive of what we're going to be talking about. So we're going to be taking this item to the bicycle pedestrian advisory board. Striping plan layout for view. And I will, it's very hard to get a large plan like that on us on one slide is almost impossible. So it definitely be several slides worth. And then we did mention about the budget that we applied and did not receive the quick build grant. But our CIP or our capital improvement program is. We also have funding opportunities that we could potentially help help fund this project with, or even segmenting the project into smaller pieces and segmenting and funding smaller pieces of it. As we move forward. So you can also find this presentation at the local road safety plan. If you visit our srcity.org slash LRSP, that's forward slash. And next slide please. You can also use contact me if you have any questions and Mike, we will leave this contact information up for you for. Say that next minute or so that you can write down my phone number and my email address. And if you have any additional questions, feel free to give me a call. And with that, I'd like to thank everyone for their participation tonight and thank the interpreters and our hosts. And thank you for everyone for their input. I really appreciate it and value it. With that, thank you. Good night.