 It was Boxing Day. It was a public holiday. It was my dad's birthday as well as being Dave's birthday too, which given that it was only eight weeks since Dave and Sarah's wedding, you know, I was still in the back of my mind, not that I thought about it a lot, but in the back of my mind it was still this really good feeling of knowing that someone who we'd known for so long, who'd been alone for so long, had had this wedding and it was a really great event and things like that. So on that particular Boxing Day to get the call to say that there'd been a crash just at the end of my shift, a crash up on the mountain, you know, I headed up there knowing that that's what my job was to do without having any idea that it was Dave that was involved. But yeah, when I got there, when I was told that the rider had been had passed away, had been killed, obviously that was knowing that it was a day after Christmas for a start, was thinking, well that's going to be terrible for some family for this to happen. Then finding out it was the rider's birthday on that day, that day that happened, I think, well that's even worse, it's getting, the thing's getting worse and worse and when I saw Dave's name, as I, as I wrote about it at the time I saw the name and thought, oh well he's got the same name as Dave, but it wasn't till later when I did the checks and look closer at it and just went, I can't believe it's, I can't believe it's Dave, I can't believe that this great fairy tale that we've just been a part of has just gone crash and then yeah obviously to find out that Sarah was pregnant as well was was even worse and so yeah going over to her place that afternoon and and holding a hand and stuff was an experience I never ever want to go through again without a doubt. Personally I don't think we'll have success on the road until our road tells zero and that's based on my own experience as I said before about the people, the trauma that I've seen and people who I've seen affected by it. I've seen people with iPads set up on their dashboard watching a movie while they're driving especially if they're in, if they know they're going to hit peak hour traffic or slow traffic they think that that's okay because they're only going to be traveling at 20 kms an hour or something but you know what about that motorcycle that's filtering up beside you when you change lanes and you didn't notice because you're watching a movie on an iPad on your dashboard I mean that's um you can kill, still kill someone regardless of the fact that your average speed might only be 10 to 20 kilometers an hour it can still happen.