 Hey, my name is Louie, I'm Noah, and we're the Clouster Brothers, and our film is Legal Smuggling with Christine Choi, and you're watching CalTV. Can you tell us a little bit about legal smuggling with Christine Choi? So I first encountered Christine Choi when I entered her doc filmmaking course at NYU Tisch School of the Arts. And she was like insane the first day, first minute she walked in, she was like smoking an e-cig, and talking about how she was pushed down the stairs at Fashion Week because she got in a fight. And we became close friends, and near the end of the semester she told us the story that eventually became legal smuggling with Christine Choi. And I approached her after that class, and I was like, this is a story. And she totally agreed, and she actually had the foresight to film it all. And then Noah and I spent like an entire summer animating it, and yeah, it was pretty cool. And the animations really were astounding. Can you tell us how you developed the aesthetic for it? Well, I think the main aesthetic was the whole idea of kind of being a little messy. So what we ended up doing is I made a ton of coffee, and then I poured coffee into like a plastic bin, and then we would dip the drawings into the coffee. But then we got impatient with the process of teabagging the paper, so then we just got a vat of coffee, and we were just dipping it frantically, and it sort of worked out that way. Do you have any future plans with this piece? We want to flesh this out into a series eventually. And, well, we actually have one interview in the can already with a Minneapolis filmmaker named Ali Salim, and that's going to be legal smuggling episode two. And they're all going to be different artists than about how they define themselves as one. Lastly, do you have a message that you want the audiences to gain after seeing the short? I think in the world today we need a lot more artists, because, you know, they make people happy, and right now we need people to be happy, and I don't think there's enough happiness in the world. Yeah, being an optimist is almost a responsibility now. Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for joining us today, and I hope to see it on the big screen. Yeah, here we come. Thank you. Hi, I'm Hank Chen. I'm watching CalTV, and you should too.