 Oh no, no, is that s**t? Oh well, he's dead. Yep, sorry. Sorry. Is that s**t? Are you filming sir? Excuse me sir, are you filming us? No, excuse me officer, are you filming us? You've got a job to do, but not to tell the public to not film, that's legal. I'm asking you why you don't have an ethical thing stopping you from killing the pigs and the cows. The pig won't kill that horribly. They were... Can I show you how they kill? Yeah, sure. Do you want to see? Yeah, but I'll watch one, get your picket put down. Okay, this is gonna be a good one. This is yours. Put my chain back on. Yeah, if I don't eat enough iron, I collapse. So why do you think that you have to eat meat for iron? That's the best source of iron, that's what my doctor said. Your doctor said it's the best source of iron? Oh really? Red meat, red meat. The only meat I ever eat is pork and beef. So you eat pigs and cows? Yeah, mainly. I feel bad for lamb, so I don't eat lamb. If lamb has iron in it, why wouldn't you eat a lamb for iron? Because I love sheep. So you hate cows and pigs? Not specifically, I like pigs, they're cute. I don't hate them. You don't like them enough that you think they should live? No, no, they're fine. They're fine. I like animals, I love animals. I like animals. Yeah, yeah. Where do you think I get iron from? Spinach. Maybe, yeah, vegetables. That's about it. The only way for you to get iron, you believe, is to... The best way for me to get iron, the most natural and easy way for me to get iron is to eat meat, which is my doctor's recommendation, so I will be eating meat. If your doctor recommended you to stab a dog in the throat and eat their iron, would you? No, that's different. I'm not going to stab a dog. Why do you care? You need the iron. I'm asking you why you don't have an ethical thing stopping you from killing the pigs and the cows. The pigs weren't killed that horribly. They're not. Can I show you how they kill? Yeah, sure. I watched my guinea pig get put down at the vet and that was an effort that she was fighting. That's not how pigs are killed, how your guinea pig is put down. They're not, you can ask. Pigs are killed in a gas chamber here in the UK. You never knew that? No. You've never seen the trucks with pigs? Wait, wait, wait, wait. My mum told me they were moving fields. Wait a second, wait a second. Your mum is a liar. I want to show you how they force them down this line here and they put them in this cage here. Is this all animals? Is this like free range or? Free range. Free range pigs go to the gas chamber too, yeah. That's not nice. You know what type of gas it is? Can you guess? What's it called? Methane. No, it's carbon dioxide. Really? Like when you have a can of coke. Yeah. And then it's... Yeah, yeah. And when you burp and it sort of burns your nose, it's that gas. So it burns them. Well, they can do a nice, nice... Well, if you go to a butcher's, don't they just help a little bit? But why do you care? You need iron. Because I don't want them to die horribly. I want them to have a nice, easy death. You need to eat meat and it is the natural thing. Who says you need to eat meat? People are omnivores. You go through science. People are omnivores. They're born and bred omnivores. Then why do you care about stabbing dogs and eating them? Because that's not very nice. That's not a humane way. But you're an omnivore. So who cares? That's not a humane way to die. But you said people are omnivores. No, but naturally. So technically, you should eat meat. Why do you care about what's natural? Because... There's some horrible things that are natural. Yeah. Think about what happens in nature. Why do you care about what's natural? Because that's not ethical. That's not ethical. An ethical way to die. I don't know. I don't know. So what do you think about me then? About a long-term vegan? When you're growing, you should eat meat. But when you're an adult, it's your choice. And then... I think that's nonsense. Plenty of vegan children. Well, you can think that. I know there is. Some of my best friends are vegan. I mean, I'm not saying... I've heard that too. But I think what they're saying is just... I'm scientific. Yeah, but in the nicest way possible. I don't know if it's true. But apparently they start their hormonal cycles later. I'm not vegan. They say I know what happens when I'm vegan. I'm just saying I've got a vegan friend. And this happened to her. I've got a meat-eating friend who died of a heart attack. Yeah, that happens a lot. Yeah, but that's if you eat too much meat. That's a bit different. All I'm saying is you go on to the cancer ward and they're all meat-eaters. You go on to the heart... Not all of them. No. But most of them. There's more meat-eaters than vegans. So it will be Annabel. Annabel. What I'm doing is I'm just applying your logic to meat-eaters. Do you see how it doesn't work? It works both ways, doesn't it? Yeah. So what you have to look at is the data. My step-dad, he's vegan. Are they going to fight? Yeah, probably. Are they going to turn a little... Oh, no! Is that sh**ty? Oh, well, he's dead. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. Who's just been hit? Is that sh**ty? Can you film it for me? Thanks, sorry. Sorry about that. Do you want to leave? Yeah, that's okay. You can. But yeah, my step-dad's vegan. I support vegans enough because I think it's a life choice. I feel like you should... The animal should have a choice. The animal should have a choice. No, I feel like this. As long as they're killed in a nice way, like that gas chamber is absolutely nasty. That's where most people... We go to our butchers in Willingham and they've got all their animals on range. They're lovely, happy little things. You can go and stroke them. They're really sweet. They probably go to a gas chamber too or they get electrically stunned and stabbed. What do they do? They do the thing. They clamp them and stab them to death with an electric clamp. I don't think that's the way they do them. I think they're... How do you think they do them then? Give me an idea of what's in your mind. I thought that they injected them because that's how they do horses, isn't it? I don't know. Oh, dear. Oh, dear. That's how the vet euthanizes the sick animal. Yeah, that's right. The animals you eat go to a slaughterhouse and then it's a horrible way to die. They get stunned and stabbed in the throat and drained out of the blood. I think chickens got their neck snapped and then that's very nice. Yeah, no, I will. Chickens usually go into a gas chamber as well. That's real. I got told that they... Statistically, yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, this is really sad. I just believe it's their life choice. Them having a big fight in the middle of the street is also a choice. I'm just talking about ethical choices. Yeah, no, no. Should get out of here. Cops will be here soon, man. They're going to call the cops. All your kids... Because it's been long enough, the cops will be here soon, man. I'm sorry for your inmate. Nah, that's all good, man. I used to get in fights all the time, man. I was to beat you. Yeah, dude? Do you want to? You can if you want. You know, when the cops come, you'll have a good alibi. So you're sitting here... How are you just sitting here? How are you just sitting here? You're just sitting here. Yeah, I was just sitting here. Okay, my interview's done. All right. So, basically, why aren't you vegan? Well, basically, I like meat very much because the way my mum cooks it is like... She cooks everything, basically, but I don't eat some of it. I don't eat chicken. I don't eat none of that. Why don't you eat chickens? Obviously, I went to my countryside and I saw what my great-grand grows over there and I saw chickens. And I know how they are and I decided just to stop. I'm trying to grasp why you stopped eating them. So what was it? You went to your grandma's, seen how they're raised or not? Yeah, how they're raised and how much love they are for each other. The chickens? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So someone stole a baby chicken. Yeah? Yeah. And then the mum, she didn't come out of the place. They stayed for like two weeks. She was just sitting there so I know how they feel when they get taken away. So, wow. That is crazy. So, basically, you know that chickens are like a little intelligence center. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have emotions and you don't want to eat them because of that reason. Yeah, basically. I told my mum to stop cooking them and then from then on, we stopped cooking them. We stopped taking them. We stopped anything. That is crazy, dude. I was a bit young as well. I was about seven. The hardest animal to get people to stop eating is either chickens or fish. I didn't know that. I just found out. I just told my mum because I know how they're around each other. They're like playful and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like little, they just look different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like dogs or like think of any animal. They're all intelligent and have their own person and things like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What other animals do you eat, then? That's what I want to know. Well, mainly beef, to be honest. So you eat cows? Yeah, mainly. When I say what animals, why do you say beef? That's just a bad habit. Yeah, that's just programming. That's really just bad habit, yeah. That's programming. Yeah. People call cows beef. I know. So they change from animal to food. I know, I know. It's a magic trick, isn't it? Yeah. So then you see them as food. Yeah, messes with your head. Like if you ask someone why do you eat animals, instead of why do you eat meat, you can watch their brain tick over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they've always just seen it as meat. Oh, you made the connection. You go, that's that bird that I remember. Yeah. But most people just see the chicken. They're a little bit of meat. Yeah. They don't see that bird. They've no connection to the animals. They're disconnected. And that's why people can do it. Yeah. Because most people here, like if you ask them, can you kill an animal? They'll say no. And I would say no, as well. Me too. Do you eat pigs? Not that often. But do you do, though? Like you don't say, I won't eat pigs. Every once in a while, yeah. You don't have a rule that you won't eat pigs. No. Because they're sentient and conscious and like the chickens. No, I don't have any rule against them. Yeah. That's interesting, man, like because just like you feel for that chicken, I feel about those other animals, too. Yeah. Because there's no difference. Yeah, I get what you mean. They just look different. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Have you seen gas chamber footage? No. Pigs in the gas chamber? No. This is the actual chamber. That's inside the gas chamber. So you're trying to escape? Oh. Because I told you it's like coke. Can of coke. You know, the gas in there. Yeah, I heard when you said that. Yeah. Yeah, the burns. Yeah. And then your eyes, man. You start tearing up. Yeah. They drop them down in this big, dark dungeon, man, and they're terrified and they sometimes smash their face and have a blood nose trying to escape and tear their little tops of their trotters off and things like this. Crazy, man. Yeah, I know. It's terrible. It's terrible the way they're doing it, to be honest. Yeah. But you pay for it. So what do you think is the best or the better option, right? You go in Burger King, you can get plants. Mm-hmm. Or one with pigs and cows in there. The meat, yeah. Yeah. And the cheese and the dairy industry, they kill all those dairy cows. You know that, too. Yeah. They get a lot of house in the dairy industry. Yeah, I know. They take their children away from them so they can take their breasts. I know, yeah. You know about the dairy industry? I heard of it. I'm not really cultured on it, but I heard of it. You heard of it? Yeah. So you couldn't torture a cow right here, though? No. You couldn't? No. But could you pay me to torture the cow right here? Sure. Could you, like, let's just say, I'm making you a burger. Yeah. Could you pay me to start, you know, slashing this cow, throw it open and cut them up so I can make you a burger right here? I don't know. There's a cow here, right? Yeah. And they come up and lick you, right? Yeah. Cute cow, whatever, even if they're not cute, they're just like, you can see that there's someone in there. Yeah. And I'm going, okay, do you want me to kill this individual here so you can have a quick burger that you'll forget about? No, I'll say no. I'll say no. Okay. But that's what you're doing every day when you buy a burger. Yeah. It's just because it's not that out there in front of you. I didn't know any of this. Even though I eat it and I like it, I heard of it, but I didn't know. Obviously, I couldn't, I couldn't do it myself or pay someone to do it. You pay other people a door all the time, bro. Everyone that eats meat is paying for slaughterhouses. All these families here, all these mums here, they hate animal cruelty. They're going into the supermarket, they're buying pigs' legs, cut off of a pig that died in the gas chamber. If they see someone hurting a dog, they go, oh, that's animal cruelty. You've educated me a lot till today. I think you're pretty smart, bro. What I recommend watching is this movie here. Do you want to watch one with all your mates? Oh, okay. Nah, they're not going to watch this. I'm telling you. They won't watch Dominion? Nah, I don't think they will. I don't know. Can I help you? Can you just stop that a second, please? No. No, we won't. No? No? No, we're in public place. We can film. Are you filming? Are you filming, sir? Excuse me, sir. Are you filming us? I'm talking to you. No, excuse me, officer. Are you filming us? You have to let us know as a public servant if you're filming us. We're members of the public. I'm filming you. Is this rolling? I said I'm not filming you. Don't show. Okay? I'm not filming you. You come here and you ordered us to turn the camera off in a public place. We can legally film here. Good day. You took it all, sir. Can I just take a step back? Thank you. It does make me a little bit nervous when a public servant told you to turn your camera off, especially when he's about to engage with a 17-year-old there. So I was just a bit concerned myself that he was going to start grabbing people and doing some things that he wasn't supposed to be. You've got a job to do, but not to tell the public to not film. That's legal. I'll tell you why. It's legal. I asked you to. You told us to. You demanded. We filmed it. Listen, this is why I've asked you to switch it off because there's some personal stuff that I didn't want him to be recorded. If that's going on YouTube, I don't want his face. You do not have this in? Yeah, but you don't have a right of privacy in public. Like, I kind of just was saying to him, like, from a safety perspective, you shouldn't be telling any member of the public to turn the camera off because he's only 17 and I don't know what you're going to do, dude. He grabbed you away. He grabbed you away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He tried detaining me. I just dipped. Did you? I had one. I had done nothing wrong. No, no, that's it. He was a... He was pretty good, though, man, to you, actually. He was pretty good. And that other younger cop was pretty good to you, too. They let you off. All right. How are you? All right, brother. I'm on YouTube. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You're so... See how cute. Fuck it. You're making a mess. Oh, my God. You're making a mess. You're making a mess. We've got evidence you got. You got evidence you got. You got evidence you got. Watch my videos in Goviggas. You got it, Marcus. Get the mic planned. I'll try to go back. Get the mic planned. That's all we used to do right around on bikes and cause chaos. Do you want to come chat? Not on the job. You're getting trouble. OK. OK. We'll keep it down for... I had the first time ever. So my girlfriend likes vegan stuff. Yeah. Like, vegan stuff. Uh-huh. The meat-free meatballs. Did you? The wicked ones the other day. The wicked ones. I thought they were quite nice. That's my mate Derek's brand. Is it? Yeah, Wicked Kitchen. I thought it was actually quite nice. It's a little bit like major stores as well. Yeah. Uh-huh. There's no reduced sections as well. That's what I like to hear. That's what I like to hear. You're probably against animal cruelty. Uh, you know, I like cats. Yeah. You probably become a police officer because you like to protect and serve. You know, you wouldn't like to see bad things happening to conscious beings. To anything? To anyone. Yeah. Anyone. But we've got to be very careful with the microphone and the camera.