 Can you say anything about how the problem of evil might have constalated itself? I guess we're circling around that a little bit in in personal experience in the Jungian community and as the years went on. I mean doesn't it Constellate itself right in your own backyard? Yeah, naturally Obviously, but Jung's awareness of the problem of evil was not did not spring from there He took very much part in what was happening in the world And he was very very worried over the first world war as you can Take out his memories in the second and he was very terrified of the third one or a Holocaust of our whole culture He seriously reckoned with that and by are that the problem of evil has come into being a major preoccupation While the the constant mischief and Jalazes and animus anima nonsense that he that he took more on his stride He didn't take that very tragically. He just said Are you so infantile and I and all those pupils I've trained you also long and they're still just in the garden He just cursed it, but it didn't upset him But what you would call the personal shadow of people didn't upset him he just grumbled and cursed a bit, but That's not the problem of evil. It's that major evil of complete destruction, which worried him And his real approach to that was the inner work. Yes, but he did the only thing you can do only thing To confront yourself with it Where you are? All the rest all the benevolent if benevolent preaching would help Then we would be out of the trouble long ago because we have we get a lot of benevolent and reasonable preaching that it doesn't help So the only place where you can really put the hand on it and deal with it Body to body the problem of evil is in yourself And there you have to the hope to change something, but the hope to change the world is a childish illusion Go and tell Khomeini that he's possessed He'll cut your head off Almost impossible that enough people in our time Would be wise enough or courageous enough to choose the inner way With the problem of evil. It's so tempting to try to be heroic and act outwardly. Yes for example All over the world that the nuclear Weapons and your power. Yes, that's developing It makes me want to jump up and run out and spend all my time and money to try to stop the you know that Well, you rather than do the end soon run up against some obscure lobbies where where all your efforts get blocked Mm-hmm. I I think one should say it allowed One should not be a coward one should Make demonstrations one who should go against it But one should not waste all one's energy into it because it doesn't help Which would say one's opinion and that's all then the for the rest fight inwardly because you see Finally, it's not we who will decide that question. It is the collective unconscious which will decide on religious language God and If you work on your own problem, then you might get into analysis of politician who has influence And then you have done more Then if you had gone in the street with a transparent every day and That that you get an influential politician into your analysis or suddenly interested in union psychology You can't make you can only work on yourself and that man is the unconscious and therefore you are saying if God wants to save the world He will put certain call up certain people to to know certain things We can do it happens always as a miracle Unexpectedly, but you can go to meet that miracle by working on yourself