 Mr. Monday happy Monday to you You know, I was I'm gonna I'm gonna go and add us to the create the live stream But I was gonna say that when I see you on I was playing TF2 and I thought okay invite Sean to that. I don't know that you have it downloaded. Do you ever play it? You know, I do have it downloaded. I've never played it. I played the original team Fortress quite a bit Yeah, yeah, well, you know the half-life mod Well, I've started so I've got you two of my boys and and so we've started the three of us go in and play together and then like my son Nick will actually sit on the phone and In chat while it's going on Oh, cool. And it's just it's a little more fun when you when you know the people and you can organize yourselves Yeah, I agree because people are stupid. They don't play as teams like if we all stuck together We would win every time and people split off and It's like a rushing zombie Exactly most of the time Exactly. All right. Let me kick off the live stream here. Hey, sounds good Do anything else exciting going on this weekend? No, just eating jelly beans with my coffee That's that's the whole weekend No, actually I this is a little a little sick, but I Was playing Magic the Gathering online this weekend. Oh, hey, that's cool. I'm a big magic guy. Yeah, and I was tuning my a Particular deck I have called soiling green It's people, you know it in this case it is. Yeah The way the deck works is Basically, I've got several artifacts and whatnot I'll take the opponents creatures Attack them with them with their own creatures and then I'll feed them through this witch's oven Which generates food Which gives me more life. So yeah, so I'm agreeing. It literally is. That's right. That's hilarious that you know, I would so I was never a Magic the Gathering player, but I was you know huge into D&D is a kid. I had so back in so Like 79 80 There was a kid that was three four years older Single mom huge house parents divorced dad was a world traveler like sent him a monkey Really? Yeah, it got taken away that somebody he was out walking with it. I he had it for less than a week somebody No, but he he took care of that thing but yeah, so the city came and took it from him and then he I believe it went into the The monkey area at the Oakland Zoo, which is pretty incredible over there. And anyway So he was able to go visit it. It was really sad But there's a kid who had like he was hardcore into the lead figures Painting them stuff. Yeah, and in his kitchen Again, this is a massive house. It was probably I don't know 5,000 square feet for two people to be in plants everywhere exotic birds Dogs and cats just everything in the kitchen. There was this little pool where they had the sucker fish in there so they go in there feed them and Yeah, and that was already cool But so I go over there. He's he says oh, I've rigged this and we're gonna play D&D. So we used to go over and play Where he set himself up where he was in the center and he created plight plywood and had built walls and move your physical lead figures through the dungeon and He was sitting in the center of this thing with it going around. It was just it was awesome. It sounds awesome I don't think and he was hanging out with with elementary school kids So I don't think in high school. He had many friends. I can understand that He sounds like one of those kids whose parents were always gone and trying to keep him busy with something But just really wanted companionship Yeah, yeah, I'm that's what it sounded like he went on Brian. I understand that he went on to Build software and gaming and did very well cool, but anyway, well, hey, we're we're live. We're streaming Thanks for those that are joining Thanks for joining as well and my pleasure and What's the t-shirt you have on there ambient? Oh is that what's his name late night? I am sporting mr. Keith Richie's Where's today? Nice? I am I would say I'm his number one fan, but I would be Contested I'm sure well. Yeah, I follow some of this stuff that his his antics. We've talked about that Even the possibility of doing a studio project and yeah, yeah, so he's a he is a fantastic Musician probably isn't the right word but composer Yeah artist He's really evolved over the years and created some really good stuff. So Keith Richie Yeah, people should go check them out Here we are so we've got a couple dozen folks that are watching across two different live stream locations and we have one person Who's joined on on zoom welcome if anyone has questions that they have around? Microsoft products or services and we're we're here to Do our best to answer them and we should have some other folks that will jump in For the next hour and then we'll do this again this evening as well and everybody's welcome. So yeah We're hoping people are gonna jump in. Yeah, somebody's got to show up with the answers Or or questions Questions. Yeah, yeah, enough in the last week any if you run into anything seen any questions Run into anything that you wanted to discuss to kick things off I'm trying to think of I've hit anything myself I'm looking in at See if there are any questions posted seeing anything currently But well a lot of people that that we know and love from the community that are liking the fact that we're doing this that's great thank you for those likes and Clifford, thank you for your hand-waving icon You say Clifford, I think the big red dog I'm sure that's not the case here, but I can't hear that name and not think that Look like the the large red doc. No, no Think not don't think it's him. So yeah So anyway, so any questions that you have will monitor and And and take them Yeah, I was just thinking I didn't Publish any I've got a couple this week of new productivity tips that I'll be posting over to My blog and Buckley Planet. I I don't you saw I've got I did like you know six in a row I think I've got one that just won like today. I've got two more recordings of the MVP buzz chat So I saw that you had a couple new ones. You are just a content machine Christian It's just it's just ramped up. Well, I'm doing the whole one post a day At least but then of course, it's all that I'm doing stuff for clients as well. That's impressive Yeah, so so Clifford is asking the question and I'm looking over here to the He's on the watch party on the office 365 group. He asked his hi I work in education. We don't use teams yet. What's the only way to start with it? That's a good question That's way to start with it So Clifford, do you have teams available to you as software right now? Have you downloaded it? See, sorry. I'm trying to Like we've got a little bit of delay on on that But yeah one of the things that I was gonna say look There's a lot of courseware that's out there some free stuff that's out there, but the best place to start is in docs.microsoft.com so they are adoption resources Are fantastic, so let me let me paste the the URL in the multiple locations Yeah, the one thing that's noteworthy about docs.microsoft.com for those who may not know it is the bulk of that information is authored and curated by the Community at large so folks like Mark Anderson and Sue Hanley and Julie Turner and a Whole host of people anybody who wants to contribute to the project and get in on it. I Think Mark kind of unofficially acts as track-fit cop or director for many of the poll requests but That stuff is authored By you guys it's it's good information and so if something comes up or is new or Looks like it's a sticking point in the community. There's a good chance if you talk about it And it's a forum like this or With another person who happens to be part of that project you can get information baked into the documentation So Docs is a good place to be. Yep. There we go Christian with the screen share Yes Yeah, so you can see there's just and this of course it gets modified the updated fairly regularly But this is a great place all the time and and and start, you know, the getting from the quick start And so they actually walk you through a methodology they give you provide you Templates as you're rolling this out with suggestions or best practices for adoption and engagement To how to kind of you know to measure that success So just The tools and downloads project plans example personas and work styles Just a ton of content that's out there. This is it's great. We always talk about it You know Sean and I both come from the share point community side of things we always talk about how the The SharePoint community really got underway and was so strong because of The lack of documentation What is the community the early days and so a lot of us that got involved back in the early to mid 2000s even later it you know came through providing a lot of this kind of guidance the fact that Microsoft learned from that There's so many community people me Karawana Gautima who has driven a lot of this effort and not not to put say It's all because of Karawana though. I think a lion's portion is Due to Karawana, but she was a you know huge community personality and influencer She co ran the SharePoint user group of Los Angeles. She joined Microsoft and Had this experience of lack of tools and just so she was very vocal and driving and creating a lot of these kinds of online assets So definitely take a look at that Yeah, lots of community folks Going to Microsoft and when they go into Microsoft they bring their tools and their ideas and thoughts with them so it's constant influx of good stuff and And they they often disappear from us from the community side They get busy or something. I don't know. Yeah, they're they're a little less prevalent I guess in the Events and what not so I see a question from new yin About how long until teams update the virtual background and more than four camera You know, we don't know that we hear this stuff. It's all forthcoming. We don't know when it's actually going to be made available Yeah, so yeah, I think that this the coronavirus stuff is kind of Delayed all of that they I believe it's all supposed to happen here in the first half of the year I don't know the latest though, but Yeah Yeah Clifford's also asking about using zoom and I answered for somebody you said, why aren't you using teams for this? It's the there's a couple reasons why we're using a zoom here Number one reason is because teams doesn't live stream teams is an enterprise technology It's really while you can have anybody invite anybody to a teams meeting. It's predominant It's core use case is within your organization And so it's really strong very secure has all of those other features When you're doing something like this just a webinar that's out That's anonymous access to the public and you want to simulcast in one or more locations Teams does not do that So for the longer version of that like we could go use some other third-party Technology do everything within teams and then simulcast on that It would mean that we would have to then use have a multiple points of potential failure Multiple technologies to get that all coordinated and working where zoom does it out of the box, right? You know, it's one of those things where for webinars I pay for zoom and I run my webinars off of it because it does a long list of things that Teams doesn't do for external webinars, but whenever I do community stuff User groups all of that stuff or internal meanings. Everything's on teams. I don't use them. Yeah Typically when I've done user group presentations to everybody has teams in their pocket So just a kind of a go-to tool for that situation. Yep And is that do I see is that Melinda Morales is that you hanging around there raise your hand if that's you I always add Melinda Melinda come join the conversation. What are you doing? Sitting over there on the sidelines. Don't be shy This is the end of her day. She is time to join. Hey Greetings, how are things from the from the middle of nowhere UK? I'm unmuting you know, there you go. You're unmuted Hello. Hello How are things going? It's okay. I don't have a headset. So please not echo you or anything. No. No, you're good So what's the Melinda? What are the latest what what kinds of well actually maybe you comment on so pointing to those The Microsoft Teams adoption tools any other guidance? Where do you because you do this for a living? You you answer these kinds of questions for for Dyson Any other resources that are your go-to resources for new people? Well, I definitely use those that you are showing all the time myself and also to share with users As I'm sure you guys know you're continually learning too. It's not like you're the expert forever I mean you have to use those things. So I definitely do that Like you're losing your voice a little have you been screaming at customers all day I have been working on Really big project for about four weeks straight. So That's what it looks like. Plus everything UK where it's a little bit later for me getting a little run down then It's not the virus we don't talk about that Well, I don't know how you could get it you're in the middle that you are in the middle of nowhere. I am there's sheep around me. I Usually don't refer to my customers as sheep, but that's me, you know Yeah, so well very cool. So any other any other questions that you've run into I'm we're kind of monitoring the live stream. See if there's any other questions coming in any questions that you've seen Maybe that you've not been able to answer coming in from your customers. Let me think there. So right now I'm doing a lot of Like best practice type of stuff. That's always helpful In our organization. We've seen of course a major increase in usage in our team's environment So I'm having to do a lot of Retroactive education on how people can use teams and things like that and so I like a lot of the tips They're just the general things that most people don't even think of anymore when you've been using it for a while like Titling every conversation that you put in, you know, I think that's so important And one of the biggest things that I see people struggle with when they first adopt is just not replying in line to conversations things like that So I've definitely been spending a lot of time putting together some blog posts internally on on how to do those kind of things In our productivity tips webinars and we cover a lot once in a while we get somebody. It's like this has been around for years We're like right and yet half the audience has never seen it before and so it's you have to remember that Especially if you're more on the we're always all learning But if you're more on the expert side, you're sharing these things Finding these things is don't forget those kind of you know one-on-one tips that just because you know it doesn't mean others know it so like I like every once in a while I'll tweet out like how to get to the The keyboard shortcuts shortcuts list. It's been there since day one. So three and a half years It's not new and yet people are like wow. I had no idea that was there Yeah, I know with SharePoint Saturdays and whatnot. It's always the same conversation There's always somebody just coming in. It's their first SharePoint Saturday. They're getting their one-on-one information They're just trying to pick up tips to help them survive at work So session material that feels old to you might be new to someone else typically is have you guys talked about the light? What is it called the learning pathways thing as well? I don't believe so It's not what it's called The kind of training solution that Microsoft has out there you can like spin up in your tenant now Yeah, so the the actually blogged about that. Yeah learning pathways. There's there's kind of two parts to that So one it's a communication site template so it's something that you can go and do and if you have your SharePoint environment and you can download that and create a central place to go and provide all of these kinds of your resources What's great is on the second part of that is filling that with content so Microsoft then has Captured all of this knowledge across every individual workload or product And so you can go and curate which content is going to be most needed most relevant to your organization and then populate that that template with that content Just second. I'll go grab the link to the blog post on that. I've got some screenshots as well Yeah, it's a great solution. Have you guys deployed that yet? We use it. Yeah, it's something that's been really powerful for us actually So I took it and then I kind of built around it a lot of stuff that's specific to our organization So it became a really good way for us to communicate out the policies and guidelines and everything that relate to us As well as leveraging what Microsoft's put together with I think amazing Especially for getting started on just that high level kind of guidance, right? Well, and that's The key to is that you're you should tailor it for your organization You can take they they provide some out-of-the-box pathways But you can go and customize that and do a mix of of the Microsoft provided content community content Your own internal guidelines and content as well Let me post that link into Three different locations Yeah, as always look at the questions. There's always the We get three or four people every time we do this saying why aren't you using teams? To do this broadcast and I'll say it again is because out of the box with teams you cannot live stream and Yeah, if you are using a third-party solution like OBS to go and do that it can be done But then you have multiple technologies that you have to go and set up and to do that when of course this is out of the box and Yeah, and then the other the other piece of this is that as Pedro is saying is like no you can Know the live events on stream live or stream don't need to be configured it you know, so yeah, it's the it's Doing the the the live events is different has different functionality and that's great for webinars and For the interactive stuff. I'm you know Pedro. Thank you We all use both of those technologies and I'm aware of the limitations and I've still selected this technology as being easier Yeah, the cost of entry is very low with zoom. Yep So, yeah, we're we've got a list of requirements. In fact, it's a it's an open discussion right down on one of the RD lists Where we're talking about the same thing and I kind of outlined it said look for the stuff that I'm doing That's external and I have a list of four things. I said until Teams can do those four things. I'll continue to pay for zoom for webinars But I don't use you know the like this is the webinar capability for the live streaming I don't use Zoom for regular chat, you know one-on-one type stuff. So it's you know, a little bit different so There's a place for each one right like it's not I think people are getting caught up in making them competitors Like just because you have video streaming capability doesn't mean that you're head-to-head direct competitors Kind of apples and oranges, right? agreed How looks frozen in time? There he is Sorry about that Coffee first folks coffee first It is a necessity Good times well good morning and good evening to Melinda. Yeah Yeah, are you over in the UK Melinda? I am out in the Southwest So I'm in a little tiny village called Tetbury You'll have to look it up and they're sheep. Yeah, yeah, we've established that yes Melinda and sheep Melinda I got to hang out and just remember when I was over in in town So it was how long did it take you to get into London? It's about an hour and a half train Not so bad. No Back when I worked for Procter & Gamble I was sent over to do some work for a bit. We had a Facility in Egham Egham, England, which was I think just west of London somewhere. I don't know the topology. I Don't know either. I've been out here a year and I still don't know all the places That's fair So how'd you have a good weekend? Yeah, it was pretty nice. It was quiet Of course, they're always pretty nice and quiet around here. It could rain Saturday. That was kind of nice Yeah, one of the rare occurrences We got a little bit of brain out of the deal Sunday's nice and clear today looks like your typical Arizona day will be in the probably the low 80s It snowed in us on us yesterday in Salt Lake City it didn't stay on the ground, but most of the day snow was coming down. So that was hilarious 80 in one snow and another That happens here all I mean it's April it would not surprise me if it snowed before the end of the month was over at least At least stood up in the mountains Wow, not likely to get anything down here. It takes a pretty good storm for that to happen, but but The you know when you're a good guy in the valley with 9,000 foot mountains around the outside of you get the snow on them There's no me indeed at all. I remember my son My son was living in in Payson and spent some time in Sholo, Arizona and And he would talk about you know the the winter and and getting around he's like, oh, we're up in you know Up in the mountains. I'm like I had not been to that part of Arizona I've always flown in to Phoenix and you know Mesa and everything kind of around that and and I'm just like about mountains What are you talking about? So we did a road trip down there Did did the southern parks through southern Utah, which are incredible and yeah But then drove and went and visited friends in Payson and then spent the next what is it three hours? driving downhill to get down with Phoenix and you're just like We're still going downhill Like what what is this and and yeah, it was it's it's incredible to think especially we stopped off and Generally, I don't think of the thick forests. I don't think of Arizona. Of course it has you know huge forests and parks We're driving at one point where You know, we you know, we pull over to a little he's like there's a lookout. I'm like a lookout. There's We're at the bottom of the of nothing, you know, and and we go over and there's this huge course It's the tributaries that become the Grand Canyon Little scratches in the ground Yeah, it's just just just beautiful Yeah, the upper end of the Colorado River about the Grand Canyon when it's just starting out Canyon walls are certainly not as steep, but they're colorful and the shapes and and so forth or As least as spectacular seeing the grave that the main canyon itself Like it's a somewhat it's somewhat better because you can actually see the water running Which from most of the workouts from the main Grand Canyon is a mile plus beneath you So he takes, you know pair of binoculars to see it and then only in select places And Clifford also brings up there's a wonderful Indian antique shop in Tetbury There are a lot of antique shops in Tetbury. That's what we have. I Just like it. It's it's very close to Swindon. So awesome Yeah As close as you can be to anything out here Hey Christian, so, you know, I've been a big user of Prezi for oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, are they so Dying or what? No, I we had a Presentation by some folks at a bright carbon I Think they put it on for the MVPs, but it was a PowerPoint presentation how to use the awesome. Yes, it was how they were showing the capabilities of PowerPoint now and how to use things like the zoom and morph capabilities that are now part of PowerPoint And I I was dumbfounded. It looks like I can probably drop that Prezi subscription that I've been using I use the back to PowerPoint. I use the morph a lot Which it could be it's really cool and do some really nice effects I've not done anything that has that zoom in zoom out capability. There's something similar in PowerPoint. Yeah called zoom Is that so is that Anything recorded anything you can point us towards to go take a look. Um, yeah, I So if you go out to bright carbon calm Those are the folks who did this and they had a number of compelling demos during the presentation Lots of very very cool stuff All right, so I think I'm gonna take my presentations in other direction I'll have to take a look at this. I just posted link there Posted there we go. Yep Zoom is amazing But just I think the last time I was playing it. I found out that with different versions of PowerPoint. It doesn't present the same So if you're presenting, it's great. But if you're distributing just be cautious of that. Ah Gotcha Good to know Well, I know the problem I have with Prezi I've used Prezi for many many years and I love being able to just manipulate the the canvas and zoom in and out and whatnot The only way I can distribute the materials is to dump my frames to a PDF And it works, but it is not nearly as condensed yeah Condensed I wasn't gonna say compelling Well, I mean that's part of it that's part of the strength of that a solution and as you know, I used it there for a couple years and and You know had some really some fun with it In fact, I I just put together a right a collection of my top 10 viewed slide decks on slide share like a week ago and one of them was one of my sp tech con joke decks where I was making fun of Todd Clint's hair and Richard Harbridge's haircuts and There's a slide around it But I used to have one where it would you showing some technical diagram and then it zoomed in dramatically to like Todd Clint's face and It's funny hearing you say that Christian because I swear I heard you present and say that you use like the design ideas because you can't put effort into how slides look Yeah, so well, that's that that's the thing I would spend so much time on Making slides and still you know, and I would I would painstakingly design my presentations And it still looked like crap compared to somebody would somebody some people just have that gift of making these beautiful slide decks It's kind of like it's like Tracy Vaynerchist gift doing her social images stuff I'm like she she's able to use like two or three tools and do these really cool little designs You're like it would take me a couple hours to do something like that. What do you what are you doing? She's like, oh, no, I just do it on my phone and So, yeah, it's Yeah, so I I love the ideas in fact I just in fact, I'm looking at my blog post now. I was looking for that list I'll show you this other slide, but yeah, I taught just presented on Visualize the data with ideas in Excel and so again it we hear about all this cool stuff in Power BI and how to create these advanced visual Visualizations around your data like I don't have the time for all that Well, now you can just literally go into an Excel spreadsheet select the table of data that you want to create a Visualization click on the ideas for Excel and it will you know the side menu comes open with a bunch of Visualizations you can then filter the view to focus in on specifically what you want to present about and then insert that that pivot table directly in as a tab and Cut and paste the little graph into your presentation. It's really slick One step removed from the presentation writing itself. Yeah So do we have are there ideas for any other we have ideas for Excel ideas in PowerPoint? Is it anywhere else that I've missed looking for that list? There it is. All right, I just I have to show you this this slide hang on. Let me find it. Oh, yeah, here It's right here. That's right All right Let me Let me share this just so you know what I'm talking about Where the disclaimer comes out and Sign this form Yeah, so here's the so this is the the list of most downloaded slide decks in the past decade So they go down so this one. Oh, this had Almost 7700 views SharePoint 2063 predictions on governance best practices for SharePoint Wave 87 So It's really short, but you know talking about governance and that was this this is the end of the content right there So here's the future SharePoint Skynet good. Yeah The world has changed dramatically, but I've seen if I did time traveling. I did it in a Ford Fiesta I learned what capacitors it's fake people apparently just a movie prop Clothing has changed Some things have been outlawed tapioca pudding anything related to Jeff Ross key posing modeling Bowling Mark Miller looking like a mountain man. Some hairstyles can get you arrested Interesting comparison being drawn there. Yeah, so I Implied that SharePoint has integrated advanced technology like the clapper The downside is that native metadata management still Yeah, something's don't change yeah Fantastic anyway good tabs good tabs All right, I'll go back and look and see do we have any other Any questions Euler Yeah, yeah Clifford makes the comments is when I do a PowerPoint, it looks like I made it on Windows 95. Yeah, you and me both Welcome to the club Clifford Yeah anyway Yeah, there's a it's it's it's cool to see I mean, it's nice to go to a conference and get kind of a big bang release of here's a new product Here's everything this new capability and what is is is is more difficult Is that we're seeing this this steady trickle come out? It's every week There's something new somewhere and we're you know chasing them down trying to figure out what those things are I've been paying attention obviously to teams capabilities SharePoint capabilities to some degree you know OneDrive Yammer so the collaboration technologies and then because of the productivity stuff I'm also paying attention to the off-suite Just at a high level I skim through the release notes of things like ooh Hey, there's a new feature that's coming out in PowerPoint online or you know Hey, there's this new thing that Sway has a new integration or capability And most people they miss those things because they're buried down in the in the blog posts Yeah, why don't you actually put the link out roadmap.office.com? For folks who look all this stuff up here. Hang on. No, just type what I said No lookup needed. I just got multiple screens Oh that excuse Yeah roadmap.office.com that's you know anybody who's asking for What's gonna be coming out when it's due to hit my tenants when it's due to go live? feature sets or features that maybe were planned but Aborted all that stuff is on roadmap.office.com. I haven't been out there for quite a while myself 271 in development Yeah, you can see it by product by platform When it's due to hit Of course when it's due to hit is that's kind of What's your finger and put it in the wind sort of thing because rolling out to a good Jillian tenants Takes more than 15 minutes. Unfortunately 20 tops That's the rumor the rumor We end up having little like feature release Celebrations and by champions groups because we wait and wait and wait might have finally somebody spots it and it's like We got it Yeah, that's awesome when you see one of those things show up Like the pop-out chats party is gonna be huge Really looking forward to that Yeah, it's in fact that's that's one of those like mini tests in the weekly meetings Whatever dial into is I test that is that there yet? Is it just gonna drop and suddenly I'll double-click on something and it'll work if you don't know we're talking about it's like in Inside of teams to be able to pop out a chat So that you're you're not having to change your primary view pop out videos pop out chats that kind of capability Yeah, that that is highly anticipated. Yeah, the first time it works. You'll actually hear angelic choirs in the background Yeah, so do we have any any other product questions anything anybody else that is watching through one of the live streams As we're live streaming in a couple locations Which again, somebody's came late is is again in wonderment that people within the Microsoft community are using zoom The other there's zoom is for webinars and for live streaming does things that teams cannot and Could we go rig it could we run all of this in a teams meeting? And or or use teams live and then use third-party solution to live stream Yes, we could do that or we could use one solution that does it all out of the box, which is what we've elected to do because our our goal here is to to get this information out and reach the broadest audience especially within Facebook and YouTube communities and so live streaming is the way to do that and keep it anonymous and not require people to download anything and That's the magic of live streaming So the flash product change short. Yes Clifford's asking. What are your favorite users features? We're talking about And maybe Clifford is responding But make has says I have a question is it possible to use teams within family? So you can so I don't know if So there is the free version of teams that's out there And so you can go and everybody go and download that and yes, you can invite anybody to those meetings You actually don't have to have the the client you can invite people via email any email and Join via the browser and so I was gonna say I Christian, you know this that I've got my family in a SharePoint online tenant office 365 plan We use teams to I am we've used it. We've used Skype for business Back when that was still alive. I know it's still alive, but I want to think it's dead But Yeah teams can be used Family-wide, you know, whatever you want if you have a Microsoft account and you have access to the teams client You can pretty much set up a teams meeting Yeah, we're doing the same thing so we have You know, my my wife doesn't use use it for a lot of the purposes She's a student right now. So she they use different platform for all the school stuff So that's just what she's familiar with but all of my family have E3 licenses and we have a space that's built and will share documentation I'm always proud when I I get a notification to go and review something and it's it's in teams it's you know if for a while there my oldest son was Who's married lives down south for here was Updating some things in SharePoint and that was a very proud moment, but life probably pretty surprising moment to yes, it was So are you using teams to communicate with your son in quarantine? We're using well, so we've got a couple other things going on So we have because my in-laws were international now. They're living with us They got sent home early from from the UK, but we were using So it is see I didn't know the name of his we're using WhatsApp for the kind of the text ring because it's all just text-based communication so we actually use that for the inter family chat more than anything else but and And then my daughter insists on using because we've got some extended family members cousins We do a weekly broader family across five six different states We just did we do that every Sunday evening and we use Facebook Facebook And so it does the same thing work as like zoom has the multiple You know multiple screens and it's what people have because a lot of them don't have Microsoft products don't they don't have teams, but it's Yeah, for all the community stuff that we do here the user groups that are a member of the organized committees All of that stuff is done in teams. So yeah, we you know five six different technologies Used sometimes on a daily basis If it ain't broke don't fix it Right. Well, yeah, you use a technology and you go where it's like why we're using zoom here with with Facebook and the The the live streaming is you know people say well, why why don't you live stream? You could go and do this set it up Why don't you live stream to YouTube and kind of cut out the middle man of having a poster recording? It's like well, I don't have hundreds of thousands of followers on YouTube yet so It would go out there And so we're bringing it to where the community is and so for some reason you people like Facebook Oh Well, yeah, anyway, you go with it I'd rather not fight people on the technology and rather just have the conversation. So sometimes that means using multiple technologies Yeah, find some common ground and use it See Clifford also asks is would you recommend using Office 365 your teams to share edit documents with people outside your enterprise Yes, I Do that every single day. Yeah, and that's the biggest ask from my organization as well You have written many Articles on external sharing. I'm in fact, I'm working on an e-book I've been working on it for like four months. I haven't finished it need to take the time go finish it But on external sharing, it's one of the most common use cases and There are depending on and what's what's powerful about like you could do something as simple as You know, obviously you can if you've got a SharePoint environment you can go and and make send in an externally available but time bomb the The you limit the Viewability of that or editability of that document and share that out via email or you can send it as a One-Drive URL Do that individually or do that from your organization share And then you can do that from teams as well if you have Specific requirements more detailed requirements of what your organization requires you to go in and Put various compliance security compliance rules in place around your content You have that ability with teams where you don't have that ability through The other cloud storage providers Yeah, so it just it lets you be much more granular But otherwise Yeah DLP as your rights management. So so Clifford now hopefully that answers the second part of your question around you and security concerns if like I've set out content where I say look, this is only open three days It's only I make it available only to this person and I put a password on it And you can password protect this so that's the item as well You could put a password on a word doc that you're sharing so you can be you know Selective about and you can even whitelist remove add or remove certain domains to ensure that it's not shared outside of that organization So there's a lot that you can do if you have again if it's very important intellectual property that you want to keep secure Let's all of these things. I mean just straight up with very very minimal configuration I mean you can audit all of them. You can track your guest users quite easily And then maintain that visibility and what they're doing and where they're doing it True enough Isn't there also like a pin thing now that just came out Or went through and you're sharing externally where it sends you a pin like to your email. You have to verify who you are Authentication yep Yeah, MFA's been baked in for a while. No, this is a new thing. It's only for sharing I don't know what it is, but I don't have it on in my organization, but people have it on when they send us It's like a one-time pin thing Wasn't aware that that had rolled out, but it would be neat Yeah, and it may not be on your tenant yet. That's another wonderful thing about the evergreen updates It might still be preview actually Find that Melinda and share the link. Yeah, I'm looking how we're gonna say something. No, I'm just gonna ask her if that's Or to expand on what you were saying is that there's a lot of teams clients are in various states of Updates pretty much everywhere during the a couple weeks ago Everybody at Microsoft was counting the ability to do replacement backgrounds like I've got here And and soon but that's the teams and I haven't seen that yet. So I was wondering if that was one of the Same features. I'm sure they've got so many builds of the teams client out there In so many different forms. So Mike makes a great point. He says in his DLP policy I encrypt emails sharing sensitive information as well as get emails I also block external sharing with OneDrive and SharePoint. Yeah, so that's that's an organization's prerogative Is to go in there and say, hey, look, we're not gonna even allow this You can turn off The external sharing you can turn off guest users within your tenant So all of that can be done at the tech level as well So you can really lock things down now, of course the the word of warning for the organizations You're thinking I'll just go and turn all that stuff off Lock it down Is that people are like water running downhill Moving around a rock you put a place of stone in the way. They go right around it And so that that's where you you then also need to go and walk down the ability to go out to Gmail or hotmail because they'll send sensitive information on a personal Email platform to get around some of those rules. Um, right Get good at writing GPOs If there are you see it and I'm not saying that you know that those policies aren't valid But you need to understand what are our people trying to do and You know and am I keeping them from doing their jobs? And it's fine to go and say look there is a process in place for external sharing Here's what that is and you need to constantly be out there Preaching that standard in that pathway for them to get and collaborate with people on you know inside or outside Um that so it's yeah, as Mikey says is and drop box. Yeah drop boxes There's a huge surge in drop box and other third-party solutions And it's one reason why Microsoft is uh at least embracing that Partially through integrations and inviting, you know, google and box and drop box and Ignite and all of these other solutions that are used Rather Saying hey come integrate in with us work with us work within the the You know the the confines of these security and compliance rules that we put in place Um give people options if they're a native integration between that third-party solution that it's more likely that people will Do it in a secure approved way than in uh, unsecure way Because people will it's human nature. We'll find a way People have to do jobs Get their work done and they will find a way exactly you're either working with it or working around it It's one of my favorite buckly isms, which is the uh, the more rules that you put in place or the Now I forgot it. I just screwed it up. Dang it What was it the the phrasing oh, that's also a buckly isn't to do that. Yeah All right, you know what forget it never mind It's on the tip of my tongue, but my mind went elsewhere, but uh Yeah, essentially it's that the Um, the the the more rules you put in place the less likely people will use that system Little more eloquently, but I can't remember the more eloquent phrasing for that Yeah, the more you lock it down the more people will rebel against the system Back in my chemistry days. It was overcoming activation energy The threshold how much energy you got to put into the system to get the reaction to run Good times Yeah by the way question that uh, that uh presentation on uh, uh, bright gracious Bright carbon. Let me go. Bright carbon. Thank you. Yeah, uh, if you can if you can get into the mvp cam team It's it's recorded there on the file section. Oh, okay. Very cool. Yeah For those of us Yeah, that was like last Thursday, right? How yes Yeah, four days ago And it's it's it's sitting in the Can't I'm empty on our rd mpps in the meetings subsection The one consistent, uh thread through all the conversations that were going on where everybody felt it was an Incredibly professional well done presentation Hmm. Oh, yeah Yeah, clifford asks is is any good paid video resources of getting good with office 365? Uh, maybe if you could narrow it down office 365 is kind of a broad swath Is there any particular workload in office 365 clifford? Yeah, for example, like in teams, I know that uh, vlad just released like a week or two ago the uh, his Microsoft teams administration, uh out on plural sites. So that course is available now. It's fairly comprehensive Yeah, much of the plural site stuff is good So i'm not sure what's out there through, uh, linkedin learning Um, I know there's some linda resources, which is also owned by linkedin Um, that has some broader It's a lot of more business focused topics But it has a lot of one-on-one topics around office 365. So you can check there. It's a linda with a y Yeah, but otherwise I usually attend to point people towards, uh, plural site Um, and there are of course there are, um other resources out there, um, like we're good friends with, uh, Asif Ramani and his company visual sp I'm gonna say we have that, you know in context training resources and tons of content of their content and what I love about, uh A solution like that and I don't know if you know, like Are you using anything like that melinda inside of your company? I'm trying to as hard as I can. Yeah, there's some great tools like that. But what's cool about that is that Uh, it's this little icon you you're basically people are in working wherever they are within the system and they can You know, basically toggle on this service And it'll pop up all these little icons all over your screen of relevant content To where people are working in context of what they're doing. So how do I use this feature or What what are some best practices for this or what's our company policy? Around use of different things and so you can curate some of that content You can purchase out of the box content. So it's just a great You know a great training tool as you're working on adoption and engagement We've hit the top of the hour Wow Are we already there? Oh, we are there Yeah, we are Yeah, well, thanks a lot for everybody to uh for for joining this. Um, yeah You know clipper just the last comment here is because the constant changes. I always find a lot of it is out of date Yeah, I mean look that that's always that's always going to be the case with training material But microsoft is trying to stay on top of that That's why i'm a big believer in Kind of outsourcing a lot of that content creation to the community content because it's it's very quick of those updates It drives home to always check the date on anything you read Um anything older than six months to a year. You probably want to question it Yeah, so Yeah, and i'll then i'll make this the last question my so mickey since we started a couple minutes late Mikey says uh, would you guys say that the microsoft 365 security admin the enterprise admin expert? That certification is worth obtaining and to keep up to date I think it's look if it's relevant to your role now It's uh If you are if you get that a certification like that and stay on top of that I think it's going to be valuable There's going to be there's so much that's coming down the pipe and to be to have somebody in the organization That's on top of all of that it can answer those questions. I think that you'll uh become an invaluable asset to your organization If you have that Yeah Just recognize that it's not an endpoint that you're getting on a treadmill That you're going to be constantly Updating and integrating new information week after week So the certification is just a starting point. It is not a destination It's a journey not a race No, actually, it's a it's a it's a journey where you're on a full sprint the whole time More like a like a trainer or a plane ticket really You're holding on to the outside of the trainer plan Yeah, you hope you're strapped in yeah Well, thanks a lot everybody thinks how melinda shan and We'll be back in what is that? I don't know 10 hours seven eight hours Something like that. We're gonna do it again. So we'll do that for uh, asia pacific and uh In the evening for here in the americas, but thanks a lot everybody and we'll talk to you soon. Have a good day Bye Hi If all we have is this recording here, but we're having some problems with the live stream So we're just talking about some uh, no known issues and somebody posted out in the office 365 group that they Added a bunch of people to their To their team They sent out and they created a meeting so all within the uh, You know within the team's application. I don't know if it was browser or desktop But they created a meeting Invited a dozen people that included a mixture of people in the organization As well as outside the organization and and as well as he added himself And no one received the meeting invites None of the notifications the meeting shows up all the people the emails that he added the people that he added are all in there um And he's not seeing any of those people And I So i'm not sure what The the hang up is there's of course issues going back to 2017 of something similar And in all the posts i was looking through trying to find if there was a definitive answer to that and as Tends to happen when i'm looking for something that also affects me is that there's no answer To the problem just a lot of people ask the question and support Asking follow-up questions with no no answer So uh, yeah, so I I went into the exact same thing tried to replicate the problem Went and created a you know in the desktop Application went and created a meeting So as the creator I then I sent an email invites to my own gmail and to my wife's gmail accounts And uh, haven't seen either of those go through So the meeting's in there. I can see my name um But I don't see those invites I don't know if you've Sherman if you experienced that I haven't what I have had experience lately Especially over last week seems to be better today is just even my in my test environments. I have two test environments one for education one for enterprise The meetings weren't even just getting getting creative at all. I would Do it in teams and you could see the little spinner in there within the meeting. Yep And the recipient I believe got the email notification, but it would never appear in their calendar And I just kind of chalked up to Load issues and things like that. Uh, maybe maintenance over the weekend. I'm not sure but I can't remember if it was last week late last week or over the weekend I think it was late last week. Actually, I didn't do much. I'm gonna come weekend I've been trying to get caught up on Not to switch topics on but uh Is with pragma support and trying to get caught up on the microsoft teams or specifically after you get at Office 365 for education um, they have a different beast, especially when it comes to teams and One note. I never played with those and as we know a lot of teachers are Scrambling trying to get ramped up as their districts or or schools are using teams, so there's a microsoft teams for education facebook group and i'm trying to Help out in there and then realizing Maybe about three weeks ago That some of my answers weren't Relevant for that because it came from enterprise and not education So that was really interesting So I spun up. I thought I was finally able to spin up an a5 tenancy demo And it's interesting to see that in teams you have the classroom teams that looks very different And i'm also seeing my daughters Both of them in their high school. They're using it Some of the issues there they disabled one-on-one chats So I posted a question about that To get other feedback And yeah, I didn't even think about nefarious uses right using bad words If Johnny and billy are having private one-on-one chats and it gets on a hand, you know Who can see that and then can't really see that I guess they can She comes a nightmare right like they don't schools don't want to provide a platform where Um bullying or that kind of bad behavior can occur So Just interesting All right, I'm trying to solve this uh, this other issue here too. So sorry No worries. I'm actually answering a question right now It's just Spinning all right. I'm not yeah, it just did diet again. So yeah, there's obviously something going on with the feed there So which means that we're not going to have any questions coming in no people coming in so Um Yeah, gentlemen, I just say that this is not working. I'm just gonna call it And uh, we'll try again next week. I am uh, you know people are I noticed a couple observations Couple things one is that there were so I went and did Launched it as a watch party on the office 365 community I saw that two other people also did that one of them had a bunch of questions Not being answered And so because as other people are adding conversations to that community Obviously it pushes that watch party down in the feed So others were able to go off of my feed And host their own watch party But then we were never seeing those questions I didn't realize that it worked like that. So that's something to look at next week And uh Yeah, you know, and then my other my other thought is I'm looking at um restream or v mix As possible platforms to uh To set up for next week and going forward which would allow us then to create a teams meeting And do everything in teams, but then do a live stream on multiple channels So I'm getting tired of the whiny people and the people, you know, like who don't understand the technology Be like, oh look, they're talking about office 365 On zoom and isn't that funny? It's like Okay, so instead of using zoom We're going to use restream or v mix Or twitch or one of these other platforms to essentially do the same thing It's actually the same thing, but You know We'll have less whining because people who don't understand the technology at play then We'll still not understand and but it'll all be good because it'll it'll on the surface just all look like teams and they'll be happy Yep So All right gents. Anyway, thanks for joining Sorry didn't work out, but No problem. Yeah, sorry. I missed this morning's call. Yeah, no worries. It was it was a good discussion And we had melinda morales on there and got to poke fun at her. So yeah, it was great No, it was great discussion. She was sharing some of uh Her takeaways from dyson. I'm I'm still it's on my agenda to do. I've got a little bit of time tomorrow I'm gonna upload uh all of the recordings. So it should be good All right, cool. Well until next time then that's all right. Talk to you later. All right. Thanks. Bye Take care. Bye