 Tom here from Lawrence Systems, and we're going to talk about SFP plus and 10 gig connectors and DAC and optical If you want to learn more about my company head over to LawrenceSystems.com If you like to hire us for a project there's a hires button at the top If you'd like to continue on the discussion or just talk about whatever on our forums related to business and tech Forums.loren systems.com is where you go for that Also, we take suggestions for videos there and I will have a discussion of why or why I won't do it That happens a lot 10 gig SFP plus connectors So we have a few different setups here. I needed 10 gig in the studio So we ran a cat 6 cable over to the studio popped it over here and Got it plugged in and we're connected to this micro tick switch in 10 gig I do have a separate review of the micro tick switch I have a separate review of the 10 gig unified switch that it's connected to with an rg45 connector UTP now UTP is great, but there is some disadvantages of it So this is the connector and we'll actually start at this one right here that we're using the QSP tech for ubiquity Even though it's plugged in a micro tick it works perfectly fine Even though they do have other ones for like neck gear juniper HP Cisco I went and grabbed the micro tick switch and the unify adapter and I figured hey see if they work now Why is that even an issue? You're you don't have this issue obviously with standard rg45 utp cable is because Some companies and Cisco's notorious for this really care which SFP adapters they have good news is both unify and make or tick from the testing I've done don't seem to care which ones they have in there. So sometimes these have to be have a special firmware on Them to make them compatible with the particular switch But you can buy them like that You can buy a Cisco one at one end didn't have the other end match the type of switch that may Plug it into if you have a mixed environment of different switches But this is what we're using and someone will point out right away that it runs hot and are not wrong And I wanted to show that it's currently running at 54 C when it's under heavy transfer. I've seen it hit 59 when in heavy usage But it's rated all the way to 70 so that doesn't seem to be a problem unless of course You have a high ambient temperature to start with and well then you may have a problem but according to the specs in here it's good up to 70 right here for an operating temperature and I haven't seen it get above 60 when I was doing like full 10 gig transfers So a couple of things we have and while we're here on Amazon page. I have some of these adapters I really like this company 10 G tech. We've been buying a lot of stuff We have had no failures out in the field and we've had no failures here testing them in the labs And for a 10 gig transceiver 20 bucks not bad price here $20 and 99 cents as of January I just purchased another one because I needed one for this demo We have bought other ones in bulk from other Vendors, so I only purchased one of this and from this particular one in January some of the other ones I've had for a while. I don't recall everywhere. I bought them Then we have these DAC cables from 10 G tech We've purchased a lot more than two times because I did my rack video almost two years ago or a year ago with 10 G with these DAC cables and I have a video on that in unify These work really well now DAC cable has a disadvantage of only going up to seven meters But has the advantage of being really really low in terms of you power draw Temperature and the latency that's because there's a lack of media conversion that's going on You're basically taking from one switch to another it almost as raw as possible And therefore you have a very low latency just because of the speed conversion now Someone will probably link to some old article that is shared bridge discussion on this now One thing to take in mind is that old and I bring that up not that old articles aren't relevant But sometimes they have to take an account that electronics have become faster So the latency differences may not be as big as they used to be but I don't have any way to absolutely measure that I've Spent plenty of time reading some discussion forums I just don't have the right tooling to measure the latency ping time seem to be about the same I'm maybe one day I'll get I'll find a way to really dig into that particular answer And you'll notice I'm connected with these mono price a cat 60 thin a patch cable is really thin done a review of these But yes, these work no problem. They're cat six cables and they do work at ten gay I have no problems transferring Ten gig on this with this it makes it really nice and light and close to a bugger bulkier cable that Being said let's get into the adapters themselves So your LC connector for the fiber that we have here which by the way is me I think I showed let me make sure we talk about this real quick the fiber cable LC fiber 10 gig duplex om3 It's important that you get the right type of cable for this I bring this up because you may find a really great deal on these orange cables you found on sale orange usually is jacketed orange for om1 and You may have problems over distance doing 10 gig on those But you want to at least get an om2 cable kind of that future-proofing and What not but just make note of that when you're finding or if you happen to be hunting down used to build your lab now This just clicked into a one gig connector This just clicked into a 10 gig connector the ends are the same on both of these as one thing about the one gig and 10 gig They're not anything different when it comes to the way they work same thing with this one gig and 10 gig on SFP or SFP plus are all the same ends now you can plug a SFP plus into an SFP and You may have limited mileage and how far you'll get I bring that up because this will work if you force the link So this is a 10 gig switch, but this is only a one gig SFP behind me. I can make the link down to Right here. Whoops plug it in right way Click and click here Whoops, I only got it's like USB. There's only two ways with some I got it wrong twice We'll go over here and look at the micro tech and you see it plugged in and it recognizes one meter copy in there But there's not a link and the reason there's no link is because we have to force it down to one gig So we said at one gig here to match Hey link status light came on we're linked, but we're only linked at one gig So you have to force compatibility that doesn't necessarily work as well with the optical So if you want to match the optical together You're gonna have to plug this in and force the optical kind of the same way But if you plug the 10 gig optical into here, I don't think it'll it won't even light up when I tested it There may be some switches that have other things but for the most part by the one that matches the hole It's going into that's the that's my takeaway from this These are also kind of nice if you want to see exactly how an SFP connector goes in We'll actually zoom in real quick here to show if you can see the little Click part so you pull this little cable at the back and it Unlocks it so they lock in and this locks them out So that's one thing about SFP. That's really nice is When they plug in not that I recommend it as a handle, but they do snap in pretty clever the way it works on the optical ones They go in whoops Getting good at putting them in wrong and they don't come out easy, but they have a little latch which will show right here You pull down the latch and they slide out and it latches what's actually pulling the release to get those in and out So what about these guys? How do they come out? Well, these are and I don't really need to zoom in much But these just go like this and that pops them out of their spot So when these go in they click in and then to get them out Just pull a little lever down and they slide out now It may not be that practical to buy a bunch of these one for cost these are about $40 a piece $43 I think it's set on Amazon and while they do 10 gig it does come like I said the expensive heat But if you need to get 10 gig over to here This seems like an easier way to do it now The other option would have been running an optical cable and you can get these patch cables pre fabbed Or if you have the right tools and you're able to splice fiber Yes, you can splice these yourself But running them like this buying a prefab one pretty common And if you got to get it down the hall or distances that exceed what you can do with utp cable fiber optics a great choice We don't necessarily install fiber people ask me to do a few fiber videos We contract that out because we don't do it very frequently and we have a partner company We work with to actually run it across the building because once something exceeds the distance you can run with your standard copper cable These are a great solution These are also not a bad solution when you want to get it like I said just down the hall for 10 gig and maybe you don't want to run Cat 6 but cat 6 right now The prices come down so far between cat 6 even cat 6 a that it's actually probably one of the cheaper options when the terms of Cable and it's of course without having fiber equipment which good fiber splicing equipment is going to cost you a few dollars and Require a little bit more skill than just crimping an end on the cable This is actually really easy to do. I hate doing it, but it's at least not difficult So those are some of your options when you're connecting a 10 gig now for all the stuff That's going to end up connected in a studio here and the review We're going to be using the dat cables for everything else, so I don't mind plugging in the loop and Plugging in each device over to here at dat cables and lining them up because there's going to go short distances to get It on here and this will be that backbone so to speak that carries over the 10 gig to get it where it needs to go On there, so these are some of the choices. They have olive links to all these I didn't have any problems with them though for those wondering about these they other than getting warm I've had it running for a couple days matter of fact what I had done for testing was plug my computer in which has the ASUS card in it that supports 10 gig it connects at 10 gig perfectly fine on this That's what I was able to get this to reach 59 once it did hit 60 with this setting in the back With an ambient temperature of about 75 degrees in my server room right now when I well actually I should not now but when I did the test that's usually with the temperatures on there my computer connected a 10 gig then this was connected via Dac to that unified 10 gig switch and Other than once I really pushed the data seeing that warm temperature on there. It never got hotter I let it run for untold amount of time Also, people ask about that ASUS adapter my computer. I've seen someone says it thermally throttles I have not witnessed it. It consistently ran 10 gig for I tested for 30 minutes pulling data And I always edit all my videos on this all this actually gets copied Even from this computer gets copied to the free NAS server Which is connected 10 gig to my computer and that's what I'm actually my use case or how I run that and it works perfectly fine Now if there's enough interest in it and if I have the time to do it Question has come up before of do I need cat 6 or in it now? I know what the recommended specs are and if you want to dive deep in the cable specs I have a wonderful interview with someone who actually spends time writing the specs that being said Yes, you can actually do cat 5 at 10 gig provided. It's over short distances. It's not recommended This is not something I would ever do in production, but if you're wondering will it connect That's actually the cabling that was in the wall We were gonna replace it in my office and it's connected to 10 gig and I have it connected 10 gig of this Granted it's I think about 25 feet of cable and that's running perfectly fine. It's cat 5e cable I have not had any issues any drops and it's been working like this since I put that card in over Whenever I got that unified switch. I think it's over a year ago now a year and a half ago that no problems running at 10 gig I do highly recommend using cat 6 cable and when we're doing anything for clients or in production It's always gonna be done properly. We don't like those type of things that cause you to chase your tail Sorting that out Now one last thing I'll comment someone had asked if these support two and a half gig not that I'm aware of I didn't see any way to get these to do the two and a half and five gig And now the two and a half gig standard is supported over short distances over cat 5e I actually have a whole chart. Well, there's a chart on Wikipedia. It's not my chart And they do say that two and a half gig base T and five base T Well, it works over cat 5e and cat 6e over distance but that being said I This doesn't seem to support it and the unified switch also that I could find Does not support it. I don't know if it's a future firmware will ever offer the support for it But when it comes to link negotiation, it only had the options for 101 gig or 10 gig connections and that's all that was in the unified switch as well So I'll leave links to the two switch reviews that I did for both of those These work perfectly fine in a unified all these optical cables work fine in a unified The 10 gig and one gig ones and the 10 g tech ones and this random one that I found in a box All of them work perfectly fine with each other. I have not had any problems generally speaking I mixed with this NHR versus this 10 g tech one different brands of Optical connectors. They are standard so they should work Ideally if you build not your network by the same ones and save any type of headache on there But just be careful and pay close attention to what you're doing And of course I've talked about this before and I'll bring it up one last time or one more time in this video This is a Intel 10 gig card. So if you're trying to start playing around with 10 gig, this is all about $50 on eBay The seller claimed it was new. It certainly doesn't have any scuff marks on it Mileage may vary on where you get them on eBay, but overall they work really well They this is also compatible with you know, like the DAC cables or the absolute cables if you want 10 gig connections And you're looking for something, you know a little bit less expensive And this gives you dual 10 gig that you could potentially bond together for even more fun That's a whole separate video. 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