 Yeah, I've got a call to order the capital of the city council regular meeting of Thursday the 13th Let's rise for the pledge of allegiance Report from closed session the City Council met to discuss and deliberate the public employment in the award of an interim contract as well as the City attorney performance evaluation, they'll be taking action and close an open session here Shortly, okay, and we will have to change from 30 to 60 a's on the Right, okay, so that's noted We'll discuss that on the open session. Okay. Thank you. I just want to make sure everyone knows about that okay, so I'll attempt to read this carefully This meeting is cable cast live on charter communication Cable TV channel 8 and ATV Excuse me AT&T Uverse channel 99 and is being recorded to be rebroadcast on the following Wednesday at 8 a.m And Saturday following the first rebroadcast at 1 p.m. On charter channel 71 and Comcast channel 25 Meetings are also available viewed live from the city's website Articta technician tonight is Kingston Rivera And if you have cell phones, please turn them off in the meeting And if you want to make a comment coming to the podium, please put your name if you'd like it recorded Any additional materials receive clerk there were none Okay, this is a time for public comments Anyone in the audience is welcome to make a public comments at three minutes for any item. That's not on the agenda Please come forward if you want your name recorded in the minutes you can add it to the list there Thank you. I just pulled that closer to you very well. This is being broadcast that better. Yeah. No, I think so Thanks, I had sent some information earlier today. Hopefully you might have received it It's unlikely that you've been able to read through it But I wanted to use the public Comment time to follow through on a project. I've been working with Staff and some of the directors since last year I have a group that I work with architects and engineers and we've been assembling some Subition set for a construction project and as we began to work through that process and working with staff We began to see that we had some difficulty when we looked at sections of the ordinance Oh, and the project itself is a emergency shelter a personal emergency shelter a place where you'd have water and food and some of those types of provisions that allow you in the event of of an emergency and And working with staff the problem we began to see and I only only have three minutes So I'm trying to talk quickly, but But we began to see that some of the ordinance just isn't really set up for an emergency shelter land use Okay, and so so I've written it up in these provisions. I'm asking it Maybe if you have a chance you'd look at it on your own Katie actually reached out to me this afternoon and we're going to meet next week and continue to try to push this But with some small and simple tweaking I think it could be something that's fixed. I hope council The mayor and vice mayor and council would agree that the idea of being prepared in the event of emergency is a very positive thing and it's it's Additionally more beneficial for our emergency responders because when we're prepared and you have an emergency It lightens that burden and so an emergency shelter itself, which I've written up in here It does provide a lot of all of the benefits that allow someone to be prepared in the event of that And it's the ordinance that has not comprehended. So it's a it's a room that's vacant and ready and Right now under your ordinance You would be forced to analyze that as a house expansion or a secondary dwelling unit Which neither is the goal and if it were the goal then you'd have to contemplate things like schools and libraries taxes and those kinds of things by Expanding you'd have to look at it how it affects the neighborhood and an emergency shelter is predominantly underground It's only occupied by The occupants of the residents effectively so you're not creating a new family or an additional burden in the neighborhood and so the ordinance itself really doesn't have a provision to have something that's built It's not contemplated as an expansion or a residence or a living area and sleeping quarters And most of the cities use what's called an accessory structure and and this city's accessory structure Comprehends that it can't have any occupancy can't have sleeping quarters can't have living areas And so we're asking that something like this with some slight adjustment to the definitions Would solve the problem. Okay. Thank you very much You're working with the right person Katie and So you have a good start. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thanks for your comments. Any other comments from those here in attendance? He's seeing none City Council and staff comments So on June 5th, I was asked to attend the Santa Cruz County Youth Violence Prevention Task Force and What I learned there our mayor was in attendance as well and this Seemed it was the last meeting that they held and what I'd like to ask is if in maybe a next meeting City manager if we can have the chief or those who have participated in the task force presents But it was awesome Right So I attended with you that too is great and I've come up with a couple ideas We broke up into committees and the one I chose was Coming up with fun events and So there's this great event that Happens in the East Bay San Francisco East Bay and it's basically run with a cop so You have I've seen a bunch of pictures already is very exciting So it's the idea that the youth in the area interact with the police From that city and there's runs organized. So I'm going to find out more about it There was a CHP chip guy that's CHP that's involved and he's reached out to me exchange cards So and you were there when yeah, you were there So we're at your store. You were yeah, and it was just guy this guy had this t-shirt on I just had asked him about it turns out he was the CHP guy and so that was a good one and another one I thought of But we'll talk about later is getting youths involved in starting businesses working with various groups in the community so With that those are my comments any comments from staff Mr. Mayor members of the council, I'm pleased to announce that in today's adopted budget by the state of California The state included two million dollars for the Capitola Wharf rehabilitation project this budget request Really through the leadership of assembly member stone who was Instrumental in getting this budget request through I also want to thank the governor Gavin Newsom for Including it in the draft budget and everybody who's contributed to help make that happen So it's a great start on funding our wharf, and I know we're going to be discussing it later this evening Thank you very much. It was great news Okay moving on to Consent calendar At this point we have I am's on a consent calendar if there's anyone in the audience that would like to pull an item on this consent calendar Please state so right now Seeing none from those in the audience is there anything from city council members that would like to pull the consent calendar Mayor I don't wish to pull an item, but I do want to Announce that I'm going to recuse myself on item D I am a member of the BIA and subject to the levy And I don't believe it would be appropriate for me to vote on that. So, okay We'll ignore you for that No, okay. Do I hear a motion on the consent calendar motion to adopt consent calendar there a second Second, okay. All those in favor I I posed Except for the excuse. Yeah, okay. So it's moving on to item eight We're now in general government So we have a report on the proposed war for rehabilitation options, which uh, james already led into And steve our director of public works is going to give the report an evening mayor and council Trying to get somehow we got advanced in this The item before you tonight is an update on the Capitol war for rehabilitation project I'm going to give you a very short kind of how we got here and then Brad porter from Moffitt nickel is going to give you a more detailed report We came to the council last year with five options and those options Um Everything from just Extending the trestle part to rebuilding the entire war costs of seven million to 25 million dollars We were asked to develop some phasing alternatives For those projects, which is what we're here tonight to discuss with you And with that I will introduce bad porter from moffitt nickel engineering who's going to uh walk you through I've asked brad to give us a little bit of history since we have two new council members who weren't On the council when we started this project So he's going to quickly Give us a little more background and then get into the phasing options. So brad. Thank you Okay, great. Thanks, Steve. Yes. I'm a brad porter with moffitt nickel and also with me here is sam tully another engineer with moffitt nickel who's been involved in all of the things that i'm going to be talking about tonight He gave the first report, didn't he? Yes, I'll remember. Yeah, sam's I think yeah, I remember done um so over the past Five years since 2015 just kind of summarizing the work that I've been doing with the city The first thing is as I'm talking um Just kind of go over the terminology and orient you So that up here you see a plan view looking down on the wharf North is to the left South is to the right. That's kind of how we refer to the orientation on the wharf In that that top plan view Although you can't see them to detail There's the rows of the piles starting at the At the shore end which I call the abutment There the shore end being the abutment of the wharf There's the rows of piles that we Number starting at number one at the abutment going out to about 75 at the end of the wharf and Those little numbers there on the top one 10 2030. Those are the rows of the piles, which is a common reference along the wharf Another system is what we call stationing on the bottom hand. There's the stations that's hundreds of feet a common way of Numbering linear like roads So you can see from the bottom the wharf is roughly 850 feet long. So if I say station Three or four or four hundred. That's how many feet hundreds of feet it is along the wharf The narrow part that goes out to the wharf I call the trestle That narrow part that goes out to about bent 45 or station 550 so the trestle is about 500 feet long The widen part out at the end I call the head of the wharf Then looking at the bottom Figure that that's along the trestle the structural elements There's starting from the top down There's the decking and then those are supported by Longitudinal beams that we call stringers Those stringers are supported by Um Transverse beams that we call caps Pile caps that go across the tops of the piles that you're seeing there So and then of course the piles themselves that support the whole wharf down to the Into the Monterey Bay seafloor So you know decking stringers caps on the piles that form the pile bent the rows that that support it So that's kind of the wharf terminology. Yeah Here's sort of the recent Uh history of the wharf as far as the damage that's been done on this timeline The top part there are the damage events that have occurred And then the bottom part are the repair events the major repair events that has have occurred on the wharf since about 1980 In around 1981 there was some major repairs that were done on the wharf about 60 piles were replaced The wharf was largely rebuilt Uh a year or two later, there was some large winter storms 1983. There was a lot of damage on the california coast Um, I think numbers I've heard attributed to that were something around the 100 year return period big waves Some of the beaches are the piers in southern california Huntington, I think hermosa Santa Monica withstood Uh not withstood experience major damage I think some of them were almost entirely wiped out huntington beach. I think being one of them Uh and capitol similarly had the out at the end I think there was major damage to that southern end and that's when those steel piles were placed. I think in 83 84 and the southern end of the capitol wharf was rebuilt and then Uh for like the next 20 years, I think there was relatively, uh uneventful No, no real damage to the wharf In 1994 There was some overtopping of the of the wharf, but it No severe damage was done. So nothing was was done to it in 1999 98 99 there was a major rebuild of the capitol wharf that was done that was Uh, I had come to work for moffat nickel at that time and I oversaw that Those drawings were the ones that I had prepared and um For timber wharves that are on the order of 50 plus years old Kind of a typical thing is If you don't have constant maintenance that's that's being done say like at sanikers wharf Where they have a full-time maintenance staff that's out there repairing it every day It's kind of typical that about every 20 years You'll have to go and do a Kind of a major maintenance effort So 1998 was the last time that that was done and then since then There's again the deck's been overtop. There was some damage on the trestle But since 98 There in about 2003 about some piles were replaced bent 12 2009 about seven piles were replaced and the the sewage ejector that sits underneath the bait shop that of course is lower So it gets a lot of wave damage. There was a um a baffle that we designed that Disuppates that energy that was installed and then around 2016 there was um a Pile on the trestle that uh was damaged that got replaced Most recently the um the dock piles the steel piles there were replaced This is just a history since in that time period of where the piles have been damaged and it's It's pretty much throughout the wharf. They're color-coded there You can see down on the left hand side 98 2002 2009 and 15 and There's no real pattern That's there's some on the trestle or some out at the end. It's just mixed throughout There is a tendency for it to be on the west side of that's the bottom as it's shown there graphically of the Wharf, but certainly not Um a rule but it tends to be on the west side because that's the predominant wave direction Where and generally what does the damage is a log a large log that either comes out of Soquel Creek or maybe the San Lorenzo We'll get underneath and you know the waves get it hurling and it smacks the pile and and um Now here in 2015 we had done a an initial inspection. We went out by boat sam and I and Then two years later we did the dive inspection underwater So we did a complete inspection of all of the piles from deck down to the sand line And what you're seeing at the bottom the ones that are solid Are ones that need replacement And the ones that have kind of an open that cyan colored circle are ones that are Damaged, but it's less than 50 percent damage um out at the very end there you see the um Six times two is 12 the 12 steel piles that are pretty severely corroded. Um That needs some that need to be addressed So that's kind of the current state of affairs of what needs to get done So after we did uh the condition assessment we met with we uh, we were asked to prepare kind of a What what could the city do to increase the resiliency of the wharf? um You're seeing a picture there on the upper right hand sign that I think was taken around 2009 Where on the trestle all three piles that support the bent were taken out and um That's a critical condition in that case you have to close the wharf And the only reason that that thing is not collapsing is just sort of the Interconnectedness of the the timber above so in that case it's kind of That cap is hanging by the deck rather than supporting the deck which is what it's supposed to do but That's sort of the weak Link or the weak Part of the wharf is of course you have to go across the trestle to get out to the head of the wharf and if you lose Well, certainly if you lose all three piles like they did here But if you lose you've only got three piles on the cap and if you lose any of the outer ones You they you pretty much have to close the wharf um If you use lose the middle one you can you can keep it open, but So we were asked to develop what can the wharf do to um and Increase the resiliency of it. So we came up with various Scream schemes you could jack at the piles or some things you could do With that you could drive some additional timber piles um But none of that would be a guarantee that you would not sustain damage and have to drive more piles One of the problems is that when you when you Like in that case where you when you lose three piles or maybe one or two that you have to close the wharf You have to mobilize a crane to go out on the wharf and it's on a unit cost basis. It's pretty expensive Just to get the crane out there. You're probably looking at 60 thousand dollars. So if you're driving one pile You know normally We say driving a pile is around 15 thousand dollars If you if you have to just drive one it's going to be 80 thousand dollars Which on a unit cost basis is a pretty expensive undertaking um so But these other resiliency measures that we developed in 2016 and worked with the wharf committee on They were all on the order of one or two million dollars. It's um And again, there's no guarantee where that you might not lose a couple piles so of The scheme that we I think settled on is perhaps getting the most Uh benefit from would be to widen the trestle and that's the part that you're seeing there in the blue So that if you were to do that that would have six piles going across And you would get both the benefit of doubling the amount of piles that you have That one photo there where you lost all three I wouldn't say never but if you were to double it to six it would be Extremely unlikely that you would lose all six So that was the option that we had um come up with The after the bond measure had passed We were asked to develop um for the wharf reconstruction or Uh repairs to develop some options to what could be done and here you see the widening of the trestle anywhere from just the basic widening of the trestle to um completely replacing the wharf in Concrete which would be kind of the long-term bulletproof solution to It was standing um Any damage that might occur and these options range from seven to twenty two million dollars This one. This is the recent historic review. Uh, it was done This might be a little bit out of order with the next one, but this was just completed in the last couple months as a historic Analysis of the wharf and how it's contributed to to the city of capitol Um after the presentation of the alternatives to the council, which was this last uh fall We were asked to go back and develop a phased approach to what could be done Right now that could then also be um Utilized in the future So this is what we've come up with and so phase one would be what Can be done currently as part of the current reconstruction of it that then later on um When more of the 20 million dollar option of replacing the wharf in its entirety with the concrete structure and raising the deck elevation in the one of the Vulnerability is that the wharf has right now as your deck is an elevation of 19.5 That's we're showing there on the right hand side the south end of the wharf and the phase one option As you've experienced for this location and for your wave climate that is below that's lower than Even right now the hundred year wave Event which and you've been overtopped a few times that remember I showed in the timeline. So that's That's um one of the vulnerabilities you have Between that and sea level rise where the deck if if we were to build the wharf today We would probably put it up at around elevation 24.5 um Just by comparison sanikers wharf is up at elevation 23 in its current configuration so What we would do here in this phased approach is we would widen the trestle as I described before And replace the decking replace or Place a new restroom out at the end between the we're showing they're kind of in the that purple outline Between the bait shop and the restaurant, but then also provide a more Permanent restroom on that widened portion Down at the abutment or the north end of the wharf right now. There's kind of a porta potty that's out there So it would be two new restroom buildings replacing the decking and widening the trestle to increase the resiliency of the wharf and then in phase two um The piles that we would drive in For the widening portion or be would be fiberglass piles. It's a relatively new Within the last five six years pile has been developed that can be filled with concrete And then in phase two those piles could be spliced onto that's the purple On the right hand side. There's a section and an elevation looking at the trestle so that um in phase two As the wharf gets raised you can see on the bottom there We're ramping up where we would match the elevation of the shoreline and ramp up to the 24 feet out at the end Those piles could be added on to spliced with similar fiberglass piles um To beat the elevation of the new wharf deck as the new Concrete piles would be installed there in the the blue that cyan phase um Ramping the trestle up to meet the head out at the new 24.5 Um elevation and at that time the buildings the bait shop and the restaurant would uh would get replaced um So that's um My prepared remarks if you have any questions I could certainly That's like just to kind of Finish off the report that saying the recommendation is for you to approve the phased approach We would then proceed with the preliminary design work for phase one And included in that would be starting the permitting and environmental clearance work We anticipate that'll take approximately 12 months to complete So 12 months to get the permits in place and before we go to final design So that's what the direction we're looking for tonight is approval of phase one to proceed with design and permitting and environmental clearance Um just regarding the cost the costs were in the bottom of that last slide But phase one Is about a five and a half million dollar project phase two is about a 14 and a half million dollar project So um right now especially with the great news that jamey gave us Okay, sorry We have sufficient funding with the measure f funds to to complete phase one at this time So that's the direction we're looking for and brad and I'd be happy to answer any questions I see questions from ed and sam ed first and sam any Just a quick technical question about the vents So in the trestle that we're adding The one bent is has the three piles that connected Is there some kind of structural member that connects the two vents or do they stand independent? Because I know that they're they're independent beams Are they connected or does there is there any advantage to that? Um, I guess the the simple answer is to be determined I would say my that's one of the things that we would do during the detail design process But in general, yes, I would connect them together. Yeah Yeah, I'd connect the two caps together. It would theoretically be stronger Yeah, just you're you're sharing the um You're increasing the stiffness so that when a log or anything hits it it The more piles you have in a row the the the stronger the less deflection you get so great. Thank you. Yeah Oh, thank you The history of repairs is is there a cost figure on how much the city has spent to Do those repairs? Let's go back to 1980 I have looked at it once. I don't have that number in my mind right now So, um, certainly something I could provide to the council on a later date Well, yeah, I think I would be interested in seeing what those are. Okay Hopefully the whole purpose of this is to avoid those expenditures over the life, um I I do know that excuse me Councilman story. I know when we've done pile replacements. We're paying Close to 20 or 30 thousand dollars a pile just because the the mobilization costs So we've probably spent a couple hundred thousand dollars each time we've done a pile replacement I know the major Project that happened in 1999 It's before us here, but I think I believe that was a two million dollar improvement project that widened the The base of the wharf and also redacted. So those are costs. I know What the costs were back in the 83 storm? I do not know Season k The phase one portion. What would the life of that? Um Rehabilitation be or I would say it certainly at least 10 years. I would say 10 20 years at least um on your first question I know that we like we would have the bid prices from 2000 we were because we we had received those but Um there's sort of uh See if I can just sort of describe it but um, it's kind of like a shark Sawtooth graphic goes down. Is it what we find with warps timber warps in particular is that? You know over time they kind of deteriorate and you'll they'll either fail Or at some point you spend a bunch of money and that kind of gets you back up on the on the the curve The lifespan and then you know can you deteriorate and then you spend some money, but it's always sort of a Down and at some point you're spending more money on Your repairs then you would just to replace it then right And um at what point is that you I mean you can Maintain it. I don't want to say indefinitely, but just for example the capital wharf was originally built in what 1860 1850s and there's been various replacements and additions to it over time. Santa Cruz Wharf was built in 1914 It's now over 100 years old But like I said, they have a full-time maintenance staff if you have a full-time maintenance staff You do continuous repair. You can probably keep it going almost Indefinitely, but if you're sort of doing, you know the Periodic it's I know I'm not answering your question specifically, but that's sort of the general trend And I would say that within the next 40 years You're probably at that decision point of Do we keep preparing? Or do we replace it? That's and that's where that phase two comes in. I think you would be in so even after We complete phase one. We're still going to be confronted with that issue Well Of do you need to do replacement? I'd say that right now every 20 years as you did in 98 and you did in in in 84 The figure that every 20 years you're going to have to make a substantial Investment in repair and I think that's where you're at right now On that order of yeah replacing a bunch of piles and the decking and a bunch of other stuff on the order in present dollars of You know Four to eight million dollars. Sure. My recollection is in in 98. It was on the order of one and a half Or a million dollars That's just off the top of my head. I could be wrong But adjusted for inflation that's probably comparable to about what you're looking at now Okay But these are fiberglass peers Right pilings pilings. Yeah, what? Which would have a longer life than the timber pilings? Absolutely. Yes, absolutely They're fairly new when we're starting to use them on projects, but they have the promise especially if you fill them with concrete They're essentially inert to there's there's no saltwater degradation. There's no Organism attack that you have there's worms to read a pile worms that eat away at the piles The fiberglass is inert. There's nothing that will eat them and if you fill them with concrete they I would say that their expected life would be at least 40 to 50 years Okay, at least right. Yeah I noticed that we have some fiberglass piles at the At the base of the war Do they come in other colors and black? um Okay, I can talk about piles all night The widening there those ones that we actually did the widening they're strictly speaking. They're not fiberglass They are their steel piles inside and then they have high density polyethylene coating hdpe About a two inch thick. Those are great piles. Unfortunately, they're no longer available But a similar a modern piling fiberglass is kind of the most current version of that The fiberglass they will come in different colors that we I was just reading this the other night the manufacturers literature says they They do come I've seen them in kind of that dark brown and then of course black um But I believe if I'm not I believe in those are lee composites and I believe they said you can't get them in different colors. Yes, okay Okay, well, I and we'll get back to that. I assume that the design is going to come back to us before we actually go out so But that's good to know that we have some other options and just having a forest of black Pilings going. I think our goal is for the historical context too is to use a brown pile that try and matches the wood Look as much as we can. Okay. That's great And steve your last I mean you said we have enough money From measure f to complete phase one But it's do we have Is it projected that we will have any additional money for phase two or and if so when And at this point, you know measure f has a sunset to it and Probably eight more years left on it It I think it has a total revenue between 10 and 11 million dollars But certainly it's it's funding the the flume and the jetty project So right now now there is no identified funding source for phase two Okay, thank you. Thank you Thank you Okay, just a couple Questions so after reading the report it was mentioned that our Wharf is not considered a historical landmark. Is that correct? So it's over 50 years old. So from that standpoint it is historic It is not a listed on the national Historic monument at this point. So it's not a listed structure, but it is a historic structure And so I mean potentially right so as we move forward with the design we plan to maintain the historical Value or okay, that's why we had the historic analysis Okay, just wanted to be clear and then has there been any talk in the past Our previous council regarding additional parking opportunities On the wharf itself or read is moving them around or Getting more spots available at the end there So Be honest with you past councils have probably tried to go the opposite direction and reduce parking on there But that's something we could look at the options that we looked at When we did our option analysis Back here, which is last fall We did find ways in this bottom one You can see where we actually widened the head and made the head bigger So that that's something we could look at when we Work on the head of the wharf that we could widen it Like that little nook area Right you got nook areas here. Yeah one issue with cars on the wharf. They are probably the largest Damage cause to the decking right is driving cars on them Part of this design We're actually going to try and put tire strips and try and Strengthen that so the tires cars would drive down, you know two strips Like you see on a driveway every now and then and they drive down that which would help Save the decking, but that's something we'd want to look at if we're expanding the parking out there as ways to Further protect the wharf. Yeah, I'd appreciate it Looking into that further there's Small room for for parking very little opportunity and you know, not many tourists may know about those spots, but But that would be part of the phase two just to be clear phase one We're talking about here is just the widening of the trestle Portion and we're not talking about widening the head at this point But if you like so you'd like us to look at the widening Just that little piece there and what that would possibly cost And how many spots I mean, it would just be an incentive to folks that actually live here and you know Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, we could look at that. Yeah, thanks I have two questions the Fiberglass with the cement fill how stiff is that in comparison and will that match the current Piling so that you don't get a discordant motion I think that the um the fiberglass pile unfilled just by itself has a similar stiffness to the to the timber probably even gonna be a little bit more flexible um I think it's something out of harmony, you know Right, right Trying to think of the easiest way um I think the the way we look at it is sort of another way to look at it is If you tie it all together the um For the lateral motion, of course the stiffest member is gonna is gonna suck up the most load If you were to fill them all with concrete, I think it undoubtedly would be this different element Um, and it would suck up the load and that is something we would we would have to look at Would you time together maybe offsets on that distribute? Exactly as long as the um You want to maintain a certain amount of flexibility just the timber wharf does move during um During wave events as part of how it just dissipates Yeah, the energy, but that's what you were asking earlier Ed was about the whether we would tie the two together By and large you would want to do that the more you can get all the piles to work As a giant spring, right the better. Um If we did do a seismic joint with it you could get there you probably would get the different The distance and energy they have a different different periods So you could get some some pounding if you didn't connect them We'd have to look at that to where you would have to make a big enough gap like a seismic joint But a wave joint so that they don't slam into one another Which also tends to make the argument for tying it all together My my gut feeling is we would tie it all together and just have it all act In unison, okay Um, since one of our problems has been um various lines Service lines being broken and you know, like you said, it's closer to the wave force Are we anticipating a special way to protect those like running them new lines inside of fiber cast larger Pipes of some sort let's say What we're planning on doing is to get all the all the Utilities up above the decking You know how you have the outriggers for the handrails No, right now the gas line goes through that got it and I think kind of following that because I think before that It hasn't been damaged since it went in since it got raised up has it no Yeah, clearly that's our goal is to bring all the utilities up above the deck Including sewage including sewage So we'll have to have pumps on the other end. Well, we have a pump on the wharf already Oh, I did know though. Yeah. Oh, we do. Okay. So everything's pumped off the wharf So we we have that flexibility. Yeah, okay. I have no further questions Please. Are here any questions from the I'm sorry. I just have a follow-up question The the report here the total says seven. Is that seven million? Is that that's different from included $2 million for replacement of the buildings Okay, and so on our report. Yeah, we've what we're recommending now since based on the previous council and the wharf group that has looked at this was to Not replace the buildings until we could put them in at elevation at 24 and a half Which would be part of phase two. So at this point, we're deferring replacement of the buildings on the wharf We did put $200,000 in the preliminary budget for doing some renovation work To the buildings, but uh, that that's the difference for the cost Okay, and then just a quick follow-up We're waiting to hear back about the grant for the bloom and this and so do we I don't remember the timeline on that. So we will be hearing Long ways away. Um January of next year Because would that it'll be official actually when the state budget is signed. So a year from now Okay, because I was just certain that we have that grant funding. I was just thinking that might free up some more measure F Measure F dollars for us to do more in this phase one project But I didn't know if those timelines those aligned with our timelines Yeah, that'll leave more measure F money for other projects probably at that point. Okay. Thank you. Thank you 700 for the restaurants that's going to be near the um, up up and So there's two restrooms that we're proposing one between the buildings out there and one at the base of the wharf But the phase two is the one between the buildings, right? So yeah near the abutment or at the abutment that would be There's one here at the abutment or the base and one Between the buildings is that the modular one? I think you've been looking at that. That's what we're looking at And we finalize that and made that decision yet Okay, I'm just curious where where it was in design Okay, um, there were questions up here any questions from those in the audience here It's now time to get an idea of what um, I see you know no questions. Okay Well, it's fair to ask question. This is a time to do it Questions or comments or comments? Thank you for the opportunity of the mayor of members of the council and staff Yes, I hadn't I'm willy case. I am the owner of the wharf house restaurant and I hadn't really come here to make any comments, but merely to listen but uh, I was just I made a was made aware of the The conversation that was going to take place tonight By reading the paper Tuesday and I would have kind of liked to maybe had a little bit of a heads up on the fact that we were at this point and in reviewing the options As some of you may know, I know the council's changed recently, but I served on the architectural committee In the review of an architectural group to study this and work with some mafic group, but I We we had a couple of public meetings that Public came in made their Comments and whatever and then things have kind of fallen through the cracks since then And I I understand the reasons for that. I know that there's some budgetary issues that need to be looked at but I really would like in the way of a comment to Ask that maybe we resume our Subcommittee meetings who are subcommittee meetings and I'd like to do that. I I know Steve's a very busy man and But I we have a lot of people involved In the decisions that will be made about the wharf And it'd be nice if I could answer those questions I you know, we have an enormous amount of people come to the restaurant on the weekends We're very popular place very fun place on the weekends now that we are our deck open and I'm always trying to answer questions public has an enormous amount of questions. They want to know. Whoa. Is this our last year? Is this it? And I think if we could resume our subcommittee meetings and keep Myself and maybe frank informed as to where we are with things It make make us look a little smarter when we address those questions. So anyway Um Thank you very much. I think Steve's heard that and move forward if it's something possible It's certainly when the new plans come out. I'm sure you'll get a first crack at looking at Any other comments from those in attendance? Okay coming back to city council So May I ask um, yes, concerning on that Request for the wharf subcommittee meetings Didn't wasn't there a wharf study group that used to meet Yeah, and we've we've met We've met when we were originally phasing out this project Admittedly as we got Set aside and did the historic report and put this phasing report. I failed to Hold another meeting, but I will do so shortly. Okay southern. All right. Yeah, there is a wharf working group. Yes Good. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, it occurs to me since the owner of the wharf restaurant meets a lot with the public It's a great way to get the message out And maybe you could also post something if there's a possibility of doing that at your restaurant so that Some of the facts that are you know being discussed here. It could be an approved perhaps being A way to get to the public So I think at this point we're trying to decide. Okay. I think ed is going to jump in with the motion here I think that's what we're here to do is to discuss it. So My comments on this I think this is a great plan I think I've made a Moffitt nickel come here at least three times and I'm after the Working wharf committee. I met with that councilmember Peterson and myself They made some good presentations and what I like best about this is I think this gives us a chance to deliver On our obligation on measure f which was to rebuild the wharf And it also makes that commitment towards Um In my mind it opens the door for the future of rebuilding the entire wharf because of the phasing phase one and two and the only thing New that makes that possible Is um this introduction of these concrete period these fiberglass piles that are Um able to be added on to because that was the reason why we shied away from many of the other plans Because it wouldn't do any good to strengthen the wharf if we had to tear out the piles to re drill them again And I think that if we do reuse these piles I'm going to I'm going to just round off. Okay brad, you know, I know you have exact numbers But if we build this, you know, we spend six million leverage six million dollars here to strengthen the wharf Which a lot of that Probably at least another million of it is putting an all-new decking on it is the substructure Which is what I'm mostly concerned about can be added on to and for about a million dollars We can that's the cost of retrofitting and raising those and tying it in to what I hope is the the new future wharf at the Elevated portion with the one on the bottom and in the end resulted the the restaurant and everything is at the new 24 5.5 feet To willy to your concerns I think the reason that you maybe haven't been involved is is that this plan now Is just basically going to deal with the structural trestle part and it will have absolutely no impact on you and the restaurant Is that fair to say steve? Virtually no virtually no impact. If we do do the restrooms out at the head of the work There'll be opportunities to kind of do some work right other than the restaurant But structurally we're building this alongside and and which means normal operations no interruption Which I think is there's some relief to you and Uh, the only way that we would ever um interrupt your service now is if we do find funding for phase two Which you know as steve mentioned measure f is not going to have that allocation which I think opens the door for this council to look at if they really believe in The the the wharf plan as a master plan is is some sort of extension on measure f to uh to generate that funding It's pretty much a a million dollar a year Fund mr. City manager is about accurate About a million dollars a year and I know that that has other city needs but Um, I like the fact that this has the concrete pylons I like the fact that I mean I I seem to think um You know when we were talking about doing a Wharf that would be bulletproof. It would be made out of concrete I think none of us want the aesthetics of concrete and the the option to wrap them in fiberglass and to have some selection of color I think gives us where we can Build something that is going to be as strong as concrete because it is But yet aesthetically we'll we'll we'll not you know make people people like the look of the wharf, so Um, and when we get ready to redesigning those buildings, uh, willy if there ever is a phase two I'm that's what that committee was selected for and uh, I think we were all excited about that What looked like but I think this is a start Uh with the with the piles The tining together I I I think there was a lot of work you guys did you you listened to what we said You came back you brought us a good plan. It's reasonable. It's doable and and the beauty as we can afford it So, um, I'm going to make a motion to approve, uh, staff recommendation Motion and second, um May I ask for a friendly amendment that we include to ask staff to write a letter to assembly Member stone to thank him for his efforts and the two million dollar grant Toward this project at a minimum we should do that. Absolutely But I I think it would be good to include that as part of the motion and with that I'll second it but I did have a question from a comment. You made it and You can do this work without closing the wharf I'm not gonna say that maybe Brad will Okay, the last time we did the rebuild the wharf was closed it was closed for Gosh, I don't say three or four months. There was quite a few piles that were were were Replaced what really needed to be closed was was the replacement of the decking if you replace all the decking you You pretty much have to close the wharf, right? I'd have to look back and I want to say though that it was done I think it was it was done around the seasons so that I think they went in and did I all I took back I should I would have the records But yeah, I I think when they're driving piles replacing the deck and they're gonna have to close it I would be surprised if If it could be done Without closing it. They've done some of the other work before where they haven't where they've replaced the ones He choose these piles, but I would I would expect that there would have to be some closure of it for some period During that during the during the work. Okay. Well that my recollection that it had been closed before and so I didn't I don't I didn't want the public to think that well, this is not going that the wharf will continue to be fully accessible During this period of reconstruction So but I'm sure you guys will coordinate it so it has the minimal impact You know Upon the restaurant and public access and and the beach we'll get it there and the bait shop So, you know, I was just gonna add that we Part of the price is not only just the widening of the trestle But we will be replacing the piles that were identified and the report is needing replacement now So that'll be part of it. So that that is worth wide and with that effort. Okay I think just for clarification I the message I was trying to send is we're not going to do this during the prime summer season Is the message I want to send to mr. Case that that, you know When we do this we can pick an opportune time to do this and that that's the only point Rather than the rebuild where we would be closing you down for a year or two, that's That's my the point I was trying to make If I make just a clarifying question regarding my ask of evaluation of the parking options By accepting the motion today, does that still include that at a later time or is that something that You just didn't include in your motion Aren't we going to have a design that comes back that we're going to have to find a prove Or yeah, eventually, but but if we want to include that I would like it included in the motion if you want us to look at ways to expand the parking Well, that becomes a philosophical Discussion, okay, because my personal feeling is is that I don't want to promote driving on the wharf I would be open to some additional ADA parking places But my my my gut intent is not to promote This is it's not a drivable wharf. I don't want it to be a drivable wharf Uh, it I don't know if what we're doing would allow Delivery vehicles to deliver Would it be strong enough to allow different kind of delivery vehicles? That would be a question I'd be concerned about and I'd be open to um But the only the only additional parking I would be interested in is if there was a Some opportunity at not an expensive cost to add some ADA parking places Can I make a friendly amendment or suggestion for a friendly amendment? Sure. Um What about the option of of continuing with your motion just with a request for staff to provide? um Just basic pricing for how much more would it cost for something like that not a whole other design not a whole other boat just We would like that information for our own knowledge And then in the future if we decide that's something we want to move forward with we can Friendly amendment to that to provide options for additional parking. Perfect. Thank you. Okay So the way we interpret that I think if we work with moff and nick a little bit to identify You know if that little corner were infilled how many parking spaces would have resulted in what would be the added cost? And so you may come back and find out that it's three new parking spaces and it's $150,000 That may help guide the decision one way or another because this is going to include that stripping So the decking doesn't get yeah, I think we were going to include that And I look at that. I'm sorry mayor. Go ahead. No, I I was just following up on that. So that's the other consideration Yeah, well looking back it was like 1998 that the last time That particular area was looked at specifically. So this might be something that comes out of Of that evaluation is Perfect. Yep. So part of the problem if I'm not mistaken. That's where the boats are stored in the winter time So, you know, there's there's some conflicts the boats actually stored If you look at here, they're stored in this area and there is parking here It's just whether we can extend it and add more parking if it's going to be extended Yes, that's all I know Okay, bring us an option. Got it. So we're gonna get some options, which is good Like you said, it's always good for discussion Yeah, so there's been a motion. I just want to clarify that we see amendment You're you're fine with it and you are the second. Yeah, I'm fine. Okay. It's been a motion and a second All those in favor say aye. Aye And the motion passes. Thank you very much I voted for it because if ed says it's affordable, it's definitely something Steve said we had the money. Yeah, well, you know, but I'm looking at you on this one. Okay. Thank you So now we have item b 8b We have designating two new 24 village 24 minute parking spots Steve So the item before you is to consider the addition of two would be new parking spots are currently in a red zone on Capitol Avenue Quick some background on April 4th of this year the planning commission approved permits for a takeout restaurant at 401 Capitol Avenue 401 Capitol Avenue Just north of the trestle across the street here does not have any on any parking either on street or on site for the business the planning commission did discuss including Adding on street parking is part of it, but it was really beyond their jurisdiction to do So it was not part of their recommendation not part of the condition of the project to add any parking The property owners at both 331 Capitol Avenue Which is the trestle building just south of the trestle and 401 Capitol Avenue where the new business is going Have submitted a request for 24 minute parking or green curbs Just to be clear the city council is the only Authority to designate parking areas in the city There's various colors that you can designate white red And green option D is green which means from 8 a.m. To 8 p.m. There is limited Parking is limited to 24 minutes if we did add these spaces. They would be numbered and metered I don't know if we'd put individual meters, but they could be paid for at the pay stations So here's a quick map so this building here is where the new business is being located Takeout food business. There is a green area that is currently red. It's mainly due to the Being on the corner in the kind of narrowing of the road here If we do relocate the center stripe about north one foot, we could accommodate these Two new spaces here. We wouldn't want to go more than that or we're going to stop start blocking Visibility from people pulling out of the trestle building parking lot So there's two areas here that we could certainly designate Be honest with you. We could designate them as Full-time parking or we could do them as as green has been requested so That's my report and I'd be happy to answer any questions Before we get into questions I'd like to thank you steve and katie for meeting with the Concerned property owners and working on an agreement that of you brought to us today So thank you very much for that now. We're open for questions from the city council Oh, sam. Yeah, thank you mayor Just trying to think a little bit ahead If we were to widen the sidewalks or continue the widening project Up through this area Would the street still be wide enough to be able to accommodate that We're getting pretty narrow So right now we have a 17 foot lane on the southern one and the northern one is 15 feet So a 32 foot width We really wouldn't want to get much narrower in that and the parking stalls themselves are seven feet wide We probably have a foot or two But no more than that if we wanted to go to you know, five foot sidewalks We could probably do that if we wanted to go to eight foot sidewalks now Then we wouldn't have her to maintain this parking Thank you That was a great question. I didn't think of that Okay, um any comments from the audience on this particular issue Seeing none Where oh, I did not see You respond. Okay. I turned away too fast. Sorry Speak into the microphone, please. Thank you. Just pull it down. Yeah. Thanks for coming So I think that um Loading zone or 24 minutes parking it would be beneficial for Not only just my business, but the surrounding business just to drop off supplies And so they won't be using The city parking and walk across the street and kind of maybe Jump up the traffic too because they've been carrying supplies across the street Okay, yeah, I'm glad to meet you too. Thank you Okay Uh, thanks for your comments any questions of the property owner and the potential new business coming soon, right? Yes the tea shop tea shop. Yep Okay, um, I didn't get your name. I'm sorry. Amy Chang. Amy Chang. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you Okay, um Any more comments seeing no more comments back to city council for motion and discussion I move approval of the two 24 minute parking spaces. Okay. Is there a second? I'll second. Okay a motion in a second Sam, can I um, and I'm going to support the motion But I think I do want to state for the record that um, if It ever comes up that we have the ability and the funding to widen the sidewalks I think that should have a priority if these parking spaces get in the way of that Um, absolutely. So I just I just want to Kind of from my perspective put that out there Um, and so we may need to reconsider this at some future day But that could be a long way down the road so to speak So we have an option. I think of Taking some of the city parking spots that are further up the road and converting those to green I think your question was a great one Okay And I have a comment. Yeah, uh, sam when you made that comment I'm you know, I'm a big fan of all the widening that we've done with this. I and and I it is it's an easy Uh motion for us to remove these parking places should that ever present itself and that to me would be a priority Uh, I think the in the time being though right now The way I see this we talked about these trying to acquire these parking places when I was on the parking commission That's how long ago was and and the fire department just Pretty much arbitrarily painted it red for no for no reason. So I'm glad we're acquiring these parking places back. Um, you know, it could be a tough decision whether they're commercial or or 24 but I think the 24 will solve everybody's need because just because of the the time limit of it And the good thing about it is is that at 8 o'clock at night, it becomes two more additional parking places for the village, which Is good We all know we could use anything anything we can add down there is great. So it's I think it's a great motion and I look forward to it Okay, there's been a second First in a second all those in favor I Passes, thank you very much Thank you council and thank you. Amy for coming appreciate it So we have Something very important our strategic plan contract Budget budget I have c Here So there's a misnumbering here. Okay, it's misnumbered. Sorry Okay, now we're on the budget. I was going by this one right here Consider a resolution adopting the fiscal year 2019 2020 city budget and capital improvement program Report from our finance director and treasurer Good evening baron council. So this next item before you is adoption of the fiscal year 1920 budget By way of background The budget proposed budget was distributed on may 10th the finance advisory committee met on may 14th and then again on may 22nd to review the budget and advance the recommendation of the council following the May 22nd meeting City council held the public hearings on may 15th and then again on may 29th and on the at the meeting of the 29th considered the fact recommendation regarding the general fund balance and then requested staff to return this evening for budget adoption So at that may 29th meeting the changes that we've done is we've included the $5,000 beach festival sponsorship Partly by reducing the community tv contract services by 2000 So that impacts our fund balance by reducing the revenues over expenditures down to $884 we've also Programmed in utilizing $550,000 of general fund balance for The risk and park clear street pedestrian improvements and have sidewalk and retaining wall capital improvement projects Which will reduce our estimated fund by balance by just a little over 549,000 Leaving an estimated fund balance to 30 2020 of 700 just under 793,000 The may 29th meeting we also talked about the restricted transit occupancy tax and how it relates to early childhood and youth programs And we've set aside $2,500 as council directed for the child care center start up the grant program Which leaves an unappropriated balance of 20,300 And at the meeting on the 29th the council decided that we would bring that back following the community grant program review Which just to let you know where that is we have all the proposals in we're reviewing them right now And we expect to be back in front of council at the july meeting to make a recommendation for the consultant to Conduct that study and hope to have that whole project wrapped up by fall or winter of this year Some of the items that we're tracking close this year sales tax revenue. We're starting to see Some signs of the economy slowing down So we'll be really watching sales tax as close as we always do but even a little closer this year Cannabis tax as you're all Well aware our balance our budget is balanced based on the assumption that we'll have two cannabis retail shops Opening up and operating for about six months. So we'll make sure that those are tracking Again, we that community grant program the review. We should be back I think we'll be back before mid-year, but no later than mid-year to follow up on that And then I can also bring back an update on the calper's releases the actuarial reports in august So we can come back and update what our ual looks like in the next few years coming up Excuse me And so the recommended action is to approve the resolution adopting the fiscal year 1920 operating budget and capital improvement program And that completes my presentation. I'd be happy to answer any questions Questions of our finance director I'll start it off So I think I asked a question about the ual last time in terms of decreasing revenue and they smooth so The answer is pretty much the same, but at the time I asked the question you weren't anticipating a drop in Economic activity and you know sales tax revenue. So I think we might be seeing a little bit A little bit sooner the response in the ual Uh, potentially it What our sales tax does here doesn't necessarily reflect what calpers is doing with their investment portfolio But it's economic activity. It's not a direct correlation. Yes. That's on it. It could I don't think their investment returns were great at the end of last calendar year. So I anticipate the ual to go up But I don't know that for sure We're going to take steve's phone away every time it comes to the meeting. Okay steve Well, okay, the golden state winning come on. Tell me, okay Okay, I'm sorry. So I I do anticipate an increase in ual just because of the way that Economy behaved at the last quarter of a calendar year. Okay, but We'll see what calpers does what we lost at the end of last calendar year We've almost made up so far in the first quarter of this year. Right. So it's just something we're monitoring really closely Okay, I know you can't say exactly, but I just want to know okay Any questions of jim Well, we've gone through a long process and as you've stated the finance advisor committee has been Quite participatory and some of the things they recommended have been incorporated as you mentioned So we appreciate the response of finance advisory committee and And everything else that the city council has done in reviewing the budget. So I don't see any more questions, but I am surprised so Anyone in the audience have any comments or questions for our finance? Okay, no, I don't see any coming back to the city council I'll move stamp recommendation. Okay Second Okay May I add something though? Yes regarding the grant program Uh, if we can get a report back on what the marketing Plan is to let folks know that the grant program for the child care Fees to be what that would look like Absolutely Okay, let's move along That's a great one No, we have to vote it. So we have a motion and a second all those in favor. All right So it passes. Thank you very much So let's move on to I have this out of order here. Okay, so item d here is the strategic plan and nicky. Yes Great. I'm getting used to seeing you up here a lot now. This is good. Well Thank you, mr. Mayor council members. I am here to present an item for you about the recreation strategic plan um, so in february council allocated 13,700 to support a recreation strategic plan and at a Um request for qualifier qualifications rfq was issued to the public Uh, we received six responses to that and staff met with the top three firms All of those companies that were interviewed by staff provided an estimate cost between 60 60 thousand and 80 thousand um for the project Um staff unanimously identified blue point planning as the top firm as it being the best fit for us to move forward with And then worked with blue point in order to develop Contract alternatives at different levels of funding for council review So, um At the current level of funding for the 13,700 Blue point planning would engage a core team in order to conduct the program review This core team would consist of staff and other internal stakeholders Um, and then they would provide a needs and opportunities assessment Based on that information as well as staff could be responsible for hosting public meetings In order to solicit input to provide For with those core team meetings And An infographic to kind of give you an idea as to what that would look like Is so this is the those would be the steps that would be provided So doing the program review meeting with that core team identifying needs and opportunities Recommended recommendations from the core team and then a final strategic plan being produced by blue point The second option is to a funding level of 35,000 so blue point planning in this option would Conduct community engagement in order to have an input into Um, the strategic plan that would be two workshops that they would conduct Um, a would also provide an online survey and then with that is about 65 hours of preparation and analysis on this community engagement There would also be um a revenue and cost analysis provided at this level and As well as the services That were included in the lower level of funding and so for your view an infograph infographic That outlines each of those steps In this option for the strategic plan And then At the a final option would be a funding level of 58,000 blue point planning would Provide two additional core team meetings and the community engagement at this level Would provide for three workshops Six small user group meetings that would solicit group members of the public It would provide for an engagement website And about 80 hours of preparation and analysis of the community engagement information And then services included at the lower level funding An infographic for you as to what those steps Would look like as we would work towards the strategic plan And I should have pointed out in the previous ones that it also at the bottom identifies the the months the length of time that Each of these options goes for goes through and so with that That is the end of my presentation and for your recommendation Okay, my questions of nicky Sam Nicky, do you have a preferred plan? The most You want the most expensive one or sir one that you feel? Yeah, I think So I think that community engagement in this strategic plan is a highly valuable resource to have as Um, it really guides us as to since a lot of recreation and services provided to the community It would give us a really good guiding point As well as staff everybody in recreation Are exempt employees So the hours that we would have available is something for council to consider um as we review so I think I think it's everyone in recreation is hourly so different from when public works goes out and you know We have obviously Exempt employees who can work over time to do this. Yeah. Yeah, I was wondering about sorry I knew what you meant. I knew what you I've been teaching first day in cpr all day. So I might be a little talked out um And just one follow-up question to get to the that $35,000 level The staff recommendation recommends using the tlt childhood tlt funding from 1920 Is is that is that the 22,000 that's been vanted about? I think it's about 20,000 left. I think that's it. Yeah, that's an option. I don't think it'd be an option to do all the funding for the strategic strategic plan, but Given the interplay obviously between rack and youth programming. It seems that you know Half to two-thirds of the funding came from that. It would be a reasonable use Understanding the council recently said let's set that aside for the time being Okay, thank you. I have a question. Um, so on the first option at 13 There was a mention of staff working on public engagement Um staff has done that in the past. Uh, most notably with public rich projects Um, has there been an internal discussion about how that would be managed because um We don't normally do that outside of public work So I'm just trying to get an idea of how that would work and how you would approach it and if there's been internal discussion on about on that issue well, um in In preparing this I did have a conversation with the city manager and he guided me as much as saying that there is the Staff do have the experience of hosting public meetings in order to solicit feedback And the similar models could be used Okay I think it is fair to note though that You know Nikki and her staff are our recreation experts and you know, certainly between community development My team and public works, you know, we can figure out a way to help out and do that It would probably need to happen after the summer when recreation is calm down a little bit Um, and you know, there would be a difference obviously blue point planning does this for a living Engages public process around recreation strategic plans So there'd be some inventing the wheel for us, but but it is something I think that would be reasonable for us to look at this fall I think that's a good thing. Um, I I know we have the staff Depth to do this. I just want to know if you've actually had that discussion. That's all and it sounds like you have that's good Yes, so the uh in our, um Packet here, there's the whole elements of the strategic plan and talks about the vision and the strategies and all that other great stuff and at the um The lowest funding level it pretty much ends at a needs assessment So would there be would we still have these goal strategies initiative tactics priorities that came out of those User groups and and still end up with an actual strategic plan at the end of it or would we essentially On the space option Yes, yeah, so it says the the core team meeting then the gaps needs an opportunity assessment core team meeting And then it says final strategic plan So I guess I'm wondering is are we actually gonna get a whole strategic plan Out of this or are we just essentially going to get that assessment from which We as a city create the strategic plan ourselves um, so In this in this scenario, um, we would get an identified needs assessment from blue point planning And then based on that the core team Would move forward make recommendations and do all the other levels of goal setting Okay, so that this option is a predominantly Staff-driven option. Sure. Sure. Okay So so there's a final, you know a whole strategic plan that's going to come out of this But the blue point part of it kind of ends at that core team meeting um number two Yes, yeah, yeah, my understanding. Okay, but I I would say that That they're Without the revenue and operational analysis pieces of that and the goal setting. Yeah, it would yeah, it would be a predominantly staff driven Item, okay. Thank you. I think it's just clear if we were to choose this I just want to make sure that everybody's expectations are on the same page I mean, you know, it's it would be a strategic Plan light and that may be appropriate for our needs. It may be that we don't need as robust strategic plan recreation as other communities But I think that we just want to make sure that everybody's clear about the expectations about what we're what we're getting out of this process Has there ever been a strategic plan For parks and rec in the past Or capitol Has there ever been one career? Okay, and then my second question is With this option one Let's say come mid-year or when we get to that place would there be opportunity to add on To expand further because this is six months. So when we get to mid-year budget review And we find that you know what we would like to fund this further. Is there that is there an opportunity at that point with blue point? Yes, yeah, I mean you're not cutting that process off now necessarily although I think My guess is that they're going to engage they're going to work with us through the summer and then the early fall We're going to get sort of a product at some level We would host some community meetings and get some input. They would have disengaged at that point And I think at that point we could reassess and say, you know, do we want more help or not? Um, right, but there's a little bit sort of a funny starting and stopping to the to the project Well, I'm just thinking that this is a great starting point to see if staff The team is capable of wrapping up wrapping it up as Vice mayor Peterson was eluding to where You know at the end game if we can't come up with something Of weight for the final strategic plan on our own then we could continue Working with them if need be It's just that's that's what I was thinking I think that's a great comment because um, we'll have a better idea of the scenario What's out there and our response from the community? And so we might decide we want to put some more money or some more resources into this And as you just mentioned Are we actually going to have something we actually want that we're going to be able to run with and You're going to be a part of making that decision. And so I certainly would look to you to say, you know What we have is workable or what we have we need to do a little bit more work on it if we're going to be successful and Kept all So, you know, I would I would look for you, you know that for me for sure and the core groups recommendations about your recommendation I'll make a motion to adopt option It's one a I don't know base option four to six months. What is this? the current funding model level at At 13,700 second Okay, and did you want to include, um, you know reviews along the way? I mean I'd like to know how you feel the process is going Yeah, because I want this is new and kept told I think your question was a great one And being that it's new. What's the public response going to be? You're new to this area. So how do you feel it's working? You know, I I'd kind of like to see I'd like to make a sub motion if that would be agreeable that we do get a report An update report at some point so we could see how the process is going and You'll be able to tell us how it's going and then maybe we need some more resources. I don't know Yeah, that's a friendly amendment Should I reiterate Um, I I'm assuming that through this process there will be updates at future council meetings That's just the process of going through a strategic plan Normally, so I I'm assuming that would happen, but um, I would I would add that we would like to see updates come after it's a four to six month maybe You know between four and six months A report back. I would be happy to do that. Thank you And I'm on board with that Okay, I don't like to assume things. Okay. So sam before you call for the vote Can I just ask for clarification that under the option that's been moved here? There there is no community engagement component to that Right, is that it's going to be staffed or it's by staff by staff exactly Well, so the staff is going to reach out to the community for input Yes, at this at this level it would be staff that would be reaching out to Get community input into the strategic plan So you would be The third bullet point hosting public meetings To solicitate input. Yeah Any any online presence We could potentially do that. Yeah There's We could put something on our website Okay, um Thank you. Um Yeah, I My experience with strategic plans at the one of the most important components of it is the community engagement Because we don't have a sense of what the community wants um and needs um I don't I don't think you have a very good strategic plan because it doesn't align with what the community is um You know really desires to see and so I think that's a key important piece of it I'm not sure Having consultants and putting that all on the staff to do that kind of work It seems rather problematic to me And I just assume if we're going to do a strategic plan We um do it at the $35,000 level and just build in the community engagement Outfront because otherwise I think it's going to be um none of the very effective strategic plan so If I may add I I trust that this process would would work well with the the current staff being capable of Of responding and reaching out to the community. We've seen other things like that locally happen um with social media and so I feel that staff is capable of Implementing that piece of the strategic plan and so that's That's where I would stand with the motion Ed Yeah, I I I support the motion You know, I I've seen a lot of public meetings Went through lots of these with the rtc when they did community groups I'm worried about sometimes having overkill on these meetings. I also have great confidence in our staff I I feel like there's was commitment by the city manager to involve his office public works recreation to hold these community meetings and I have confidence that they can can meet that need um, I know that you know just Uh When we had the meeting at at the mall if people have an interest to come out They will show up there around 200 people at that meeting So I think the thing is, you know, we're primarily a junior guards driven town So there'll be interest to make sure that all that's protected But I think that this this will have some interest and if we advertise the meeting Uh, it's just a matter of who the facilitator of that meeting is and like I said, this is where you just put confidence Your employees I know we've already done a lot of things where we've allowed public work to take on Additional projects because the the the the crews decided they would like to do that and it's been successful So I think this is just a case of empowering the employees and staff and I'm going to just Throw the olive branch out here to recreation and give them a try and I'm going to support the measure Thanks very much. Um, I do have a comment to make. Um I I think in running the public meetings yourself and actually directly participating in that Process with the public is going to be a richer experience For the city of capitol and for you and the recreation department I think that richer experience is going to become because of the direct involvement as opposed to having A consultant doing nothing against the consultant and the projects I mean the the products that they produce But they're the ones that are going to get that direct experience If we do it ourselves I've heard a lot of people some time but not a lot of people But I've heard often that you know We keep asking for consultants to do things for us and and that's a true thing because we don't have a lot of bandwidth But in this case I see your enthusiasm and the recreation department's enthusiasm to do this So I feel confident that we could actually do it on that score also So I definitely support the motion I have just a really quick question Just out of curiosity right now when someone enrolls in one of our recreation department programs when it's over Is there any kind of survey for them to fill out on if they Got what they wanted out of it if there was anything they wanted different anything like that so yeah with With the recent change in the class coordinator we introduced a evaluation That we actually reach out to the students instead of it going through the contracted instructor Different and unique And we have had discussions about doing that for Our upcoming summer programs great, but nothing They haven't started yet. All right. That's great. Um one last comment I hope you're going to include in your core group some from the soak health school district Because um, I mean that's obviously a good avenue to get the word out But we are partners They're in a sense a partner with us in our rec district because we Advertise to the whole school district and we try to serve them as well So I just thought I'd throw that out because um, mr. Mayor. Yes. Can we do a roll call vote on it? Yeah Okay, so we have a motion and a second and um secret please a roll call Councilmember story. Hi councilmember Peterson. Hi councilmember Brooks. Hi Councilmember Botworth. Hi and mayor Bertrand. Hi passes unanimously. Thank you very much Thank you very much for that presentation so Sure the order is correct here. So I have an announcement to make that I need to read Because of the last item here Okay Before the city council this evening as part of the agenda item eight e is a Is a recommendation to consider a contract with Rwg legal for city attorney services The city attorney reports directly to the city council and is considered a local agency executive The proposed contract with rwg legal is 11,130 dollars per month for two months The total of the contract is for 22,260 With that Let's start this particular item E consider a new intern city Attorney contract report from staff, please mr. Mayor members of the council As was previously reported the city has issued a request for proposals for city attorney services Um, read globally has served as the lead attorney for the city for the past several months A read mr. Gloley will be starting his own legal firm here beginning in july And it's submitted a proposal to serve as interim city attorney while the city awaits the proposals and goes through the selection process for a city attorney Um, as the mayor reported this contract is in the same amount as the prior city attorney contract 11,130 dollars a month And we do have one minor recommendation to the contract which is an item 5b the termination language By attorney should it be 60 days not 30 days as was identified in the packet and with that i'm available for questions Any questions of the city manager? Any questions from the members of the audience? Bring it back to city council for deliberation Motion to approve staff recommendation second A roll call vote on this please since it's a contract Council member story I Council member peterson I Council member Brooks I Council member botter I And mayor burton I So That brings us the item 10 adjournment. Thank you very much for everyone. We have a Successor agency meeting well the regular meeting adjournment and now we have a successor agency So Call to order the successor agency. Do we need a Agenda, excuse me. We don't need a roll call. Do we? No, we can note everyone is present. Okay, everyone's present. Okay, so any additional items for this? Staff has no additions. Okay any public comment Seeing no public comment back to city council for um staff comments That's a no comments. Okay consent calendar consider may 29th joint workshop minutes Anyone from audience have any issues with the joint minutes? No, okay bring it back to city council motion to approve minutes Is there a second second? Okay. All those in favor. All right. All right. Okay general government hearings adopt the fiscal year budget 2019 and 2020 Recommended action Jim Thank you, mayor and council This last item is just kind of the cleanup for the last page of the budget document that was in the packet earlier I don't I didn't prepare any presentation, but I would be happy to answer any questions Okay, any questions for jim Any questions from the audience seeing none back to city council for a motion Move staff recommendation Okay, all those in favor. All right. Okay. So at this point, I'd like to adjourn the meeting until next time Oh