 Briefly introduce ourselves and then we just have 20 minutes to give you the state of the art on digital decentralized identity. That's a Our job, but we'll do our best My name is drum Reed. I am now director of Trust services for a vast who officially merged with Norton lifelock as of yesterday morning So I'm a vast Norton lifelock. I understand there's going to be a new brand here before the end of the year So that's the best I can do. I'm also One of the steering members at the trust or a P Foundation, so I bring some of that perspective Well ask each of the other panelists to give a brief intro and then we'll dive into our questions. Hi. I'm Heather doll I'm a co-founder and CEO of a DCO our team helps Enterprises and governments around the world advanced adoption of decentralized identity It's a tremendous team who is very active in the hyper ledger community across multiple projects and some of them are here today So I'm happy to introduce you to our team Hi Hi, my name is Kalyia young. I Lead a consultancy identity woman in business and we work with governments enterprises and startups around the world trying to figure out these new Decentralized identity tools and I'm quite active across the whole range of organizations in the space trust right be Decentralized identity foundation credentials community group, etc. Great to be here. Hi, my name is Marie Wallace. I'm with IBM I have spent about 20 years building AI solutions with IBM and the last several years I got really worried as we all have about the the efficacy the Ethics and the privacy aspects of AI so that's what got me attracted to the SSI space So I spent the last few years building SSI solutions for IBM and the most recent one being IBM digital health path Which was used during the COVID pandemic So we're going to start out by just trying to quickly assess where are we right now? And we'll start with Kalyia will give us a quick overview and then Marie and Heather will provide their perspectives We're just in five minutes. Then we'll get to the meat of where we're going to go. Sure. So I'm right now self sovereign identity is Just past the peak of expectations and heading towards the trough of disillusionment on the Gartner hype cycle So right now is the time to focus on quality not quantity and really think about how we Provide real market value and long-term potential with the technology And I think it's also an opportunity for us to reflect as a community individuals and companies on What real value we're bringing because the next phase we're going through it's going to be a little bit tough In talking about the context of the Gartner hype cycle that we've actually been in the trough of disillusionment Especially in the early stages of the pandemic is organizations were looking at what type of identity and they had been Dissolutioned with with this space, but they understood that this was one of few ways that they could actually Start solving some of the complexities around global sharing Verified inauthentic data and so they were willing to take a chance and I see That we are actually now starting to pick up and and leave the disillusionment and we are aggressively Moving to the point of commercial mass scale adoption. So I think we're we've already surpassed where Gartner has said because by the time they report it's already at that point a little bit dated and where we see Global enterprises as they are moving to commercial scaling adoption with mainstream users because the technology you need to do that is Available today and they can build a complete trust-to-digital ecosystem from start to end with partners Across the world and deploy now Yeah, and I think I would agree as well that that we're that we're Much that actually COVID is basically given us all a kick in the butt because we've been doing some great work for years and John You know it's indicated like in the early days and you've been there since drum and since the beginning and and Heather But but I think in the last few years what's happened with COVID is that we have this massive problem we have this massive need to be able to exchange highly sensitive personal health related data and And the thing that's been really proven is that you know many many approaches were considered But the end of the day the only approach that worked across the globe everywhere from India to Europe to the US was a Decentralized approach any other approach that was tried fails So that I think that was the proof in the pudding it proved two things one is decentralization is the only way to solve Large-scale global privacy preserving data exchange and the second thing is that the technology is there It works not perfect. We haven't solved all the problems But we have enough to get started and those are I think that's where I think we are today And now as a next step to clear's point the really hard part is Now we have to start applying to non-covid use cases We have to really start flipping the switch and looking at where else in the world What are the business problems do we need to solve with this technology and that's the really exciting next step So now we're going to get to the meat of this which is What do we need to do now as as an industry and you just heard I want to give an extra shout out to the bc gov team And not just for the leadership but for pressing forward as you just heard from john official announcement that of the first government issued digital identity wallets and credential to follow It's it's it's going to be a slowly phased rollout, but you have a government You know of a sovereign nation saying we're buying into self-sovereign identity That's just one step now. We want to hear from all three panelists What do they think is going to be necessary to to get to the tipping point? I mean can I just can I just follow because I just want to touch on the government point um I think what we need to do and I don't know if there's any government officials here anybody from the government But I really think we need to see the public sector step up to the plate and get more engaged on two fronts one is Being issuers and verified verifiers of credentials I mean self-sovereign identity doesn't change the fact that we still have issuers of identity and governments are You know one of the key issuers of identity be that drivers licenses passports social security numbers I work in the health care space so provider, you know identifiers And we need to see and the government's really stepping up and starting to be first-class issuers of these identities So that they can seed the industry they can seed the use cases So now verifiers and businesses can say well, okay now I have a trusted identity I can integrate into my business process And the second thing I'd like to see the government starting to do as well Is it's starting to stand up some of these infrastructure and doing kind of the type of work bc have done in terms of you know things like trusted wallets because We like actually Europe is doing this so that they're actually start You know starting to stand up these these trusted blockchain networks for these types of use cases Because I think if we think about it, you know everybody looks at the internet and we think oh You know private enterprises made the internet, but the reality is as we all know it wasn't it was the government with our Penet so I'd like to see the government start to really be the be an engine for for helping Private enterprises really drive some innovation around this space I think from the standpoint of governments I think Canada bc gov, and I also think we have to highlight the government of aruba During covet. They were another government who used decentralized identity to help fuel the start of their economy, which is dependent on tourism But what what they have also done is they're taking the leadership position in another part of the world and saying Come join us in the Caribbean in Latin America and in Europe as well and developing decentralized identity solutions Based on the trusted digital ecosystem that they developed during covet because what was very interesting about what they did was Although it was for covet. They built the system to scale to other use cases that they knew they had but what was more interesting was The realization you don't need government to start building. So what do we need to do? Build and build and build and build and build you can start building today It is hard It is hard work to build and get in there and on the ground and working with people and day in day out Working with the people in the apps and the wallets and how are they using it and the governments and and the different agencies and the You know the the hotels or the night clubs or the casinos or wherever you're deploying your solution That is hard work and Building doesn't just mean the technology that you have to build. You have to look at your organization from the full 360 you have to build through your marketing team your Communications team your general council and legal office your human resources Your c-suite your sponsors. There is no part of your organization That doesn't get touched in the fully successful deployment. So I talk about build Build absolutely through the community build your technology But build how you're going to deploy and succeed with everyone else on your team That may not be in your exact tech team because that is how we succeed And it's by bringing our entire team our full 360 together That's going to drive this forward to the scale that we have all been hoping for for a number of years So um to build on what marie said last week the us um Immigration services announced that they're going to be issuing Digital green cards using the verifiable credential standards. So that's now out in public Which is really excellent news. I think um building on what heather said It's really important that we start to be market driven instead of technology driven And really listen to the needs of what businesses Care about in terms of problem solving I think it's important that we make more space for business leaders in the development of our open standards and the open source code um I think we have to have realistic conversations about what the tech can do um and not pursue just purist approaches that have good intentions, but are not necessarily consumable by the market um You know, I think we we have had some pretty grand schemes. We put a lot of work into the good health pass Blueprint it was a very excellent piece of work, but it caught very little market adoption, right? so that's a lesson to all of us to really get more grounded and Aim big but start small and we aimed big and started big It it played out in certain ways. Um, and I think we have to um um Thinking about this market dynamics is the technology folks really need to slow down and listen carefully to what the market wants to Not just in think about what we want the market to want um, so And I think We also there's use cases everywhere for this technology. It's sort of like they drip from the sky And that's good except We have to figure out where the business cases are And the early business cases that can help business decision makers go. Oh, yeah Okay, if you can do this and solve this problem for us, it's worth the investment and not Just the yes, we many of us are idealistic and some of us have been working on this for decades um But we're we're in this point where we have a huge opportunity if we can Shift our focus just slightly towards the market um So I'll leave it at that It's these are really really good points. Um, I'll share that Uh, my perspective has has evolved a lot in the last six months because For over 20 years. I had only been working with startups in You know tackling these problems and each each sort of phase of our evolution towards what's now ssi and decentralized identity um, and then every one was acquired by vast last december And then as I mentioned just yesterday it was official the vast has been acquired by norton lifelock and There'll be a whole new brand here by the end of the year But the bigger impact is it means 500 million consumers there are customers of of those combined companies Earned a position to be Influenced to adopt this technology Within the next year, right and that's just those companies. I think we all are well aware Apple and google both have already introduced support for one form of a verifiable credential in uh In in in their digital wallets and So there there is And then with the eu's focus on their digital identity wallet initiative And frankly more government funding here in the eu than anywhere else in the world for um ssi By the way, they're not afraid to use that term either It's interesting. Um It means that the the collective realization that digital wallets and digital credentials are here to stay Is there and now we are into the very very hard questions. Okay, so what will real adoption look like? And I I just want to reinforce. I completely agree with panelists. It is about small steps I like to point out even you know world changing technologies like The the personal computer It wasn't it didn't happen overnight. It was one killer app at a time even the internet It was wow you could start to use email and bingo it spreads. That's what I think is going to happen here So we just have a few minutes left if we've intrigued you enough what We want now one answer is What specifically What project or or organization if you're interested in this and you want to say how do I do something else? Where do you go? What do you do? Like you're in the right place. This is a great place to start. There's so many people here But where do you start? there are a number of community Meetings in fact on the dco website We have a page that just is the guideline of all the meetings and with links on exactly where you can sign up or how to join the meeting rooms There are also trainings The dco team offers a lot of hands-on training no matter whether you're like I've heard about this and I want to learn more all the way to you've been doing this for years And you need to learn how to use a very specific code base And then lastly, um, there are a lot of meet-ups and All of our organizations offer them and dco does one every third Tuesday And for those of you who are in the space with us, you may not be on stage But I encourage you to continue to offer Information and content and dco publishes reports on a regular basis in a library for anyone to use I encourage any companies in this space to do the same thing because I think together We can build this really strong community library of all kinds of materials to help advance adoption So this morning, um Daniella announced that getting started with ssi course. So myself and my colleague lucy Wrote that so where that's one place to learn Um, there's a forum that I've been hosting since 2005 called the internet identity workshop Actually, you haven't come yet. You came virtually so you have but um So that's a great place to really if you want to dive into the deep end of the swimming pool That's where we hang out Our next one's coming up in november And um, I also published a weekly newsletter about the industry. Um called identity sphere and People love it We send out the news of what's happened this week related to ssi and neighboring technologies Um, I I definitely agree. I think being involved in the community. This is a really good. It's a good good community It's vibrant. I think it's I mean, I don't think I've ever worked in a space where people are so passionate I think it's because actually one of the earliest speakers to talk about the the use case they had You know protecting women And I and I think the thing about ssi is that we all care about our identity We all care about being safe on the internet So I think the people that get into the space feel passionately about making the digital world And the physical digital divide a safe place to be so I think definitely engage with the community I I have to do a plug for trust over ip because I I uh, I joined it And ibm obviously has been a founder of it since the beginning But I I got involved about two years ago and I now sit in the steering committee And I've just learned so much. I got to know like through the good help house collaborative You know, even though we maybe didn't get the big adoption, but it was a great networking opportunity I got to meet so many different people Um, there's so much knowledge and everybody is super generous with you know to to you know Heather's point about and this year just giving out, you know stuff for free to really, you know A rise rising water, you know rises all both So so we all of us want to be sharing our experiences So I would say definitely get involved in the communities trust over ip is one that I've had a great experience With they do some really great work really out of lots of interesting Technical work groups as well for people who want to get hands on and roll up their sleeves and write code Um, so yeah, that's that's engage and and obviously talk to any of us during the event if you want to We can obviously point you to places you can go So I want to give an extra plug again hyper ledger It's one thing I love about this community It's it's it is about the code But it's also about everything else you need to actually use and deploy the code Including the education So sponsoring the the getting started with ssi. That's a new course. It's going to be available I too will give a plug trust over ip if you're interested it has has a Summit tomorrow afternoon I think it's two to five thirty The director of strategic engagements Judith Fleener is here. There we are Judith stand up or put your your hand up if you're interested in trust over ip That's and this it's a sister organization to hyper ledger. So is the decentralized identity foundation And uh, it's growing. It's growing. I think there's going to be another announcement coming tomorrow The interest in this space is intense and and I love that point Digital if digital identity and digital wallets and digital forensics are in our future Then we're at that point where elastigirl said, right? Your identity is your most valuable possession protect it use your powers Thank you everyone. Thanks to our panelists