 Okay, good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Burns here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the commission's weekly online event. Yes, you can call us a webinar, we don't mind, that we hold every Wednesday morning live at 10 a.m. Central Time. We do a mixture of things here, presentations, interviews, mini-training sessions, basically anything that is related to libraries, we'll put it on the show. We do record all of our shows as well, so if you're unable to join us on Wednesday mornings, that's perfectly fine. You can always go to our website, you can find the recordings of all of our previous shows there. We do have speakers from the Library Commission, our own Nebraska Library Commission come on the show, and we do have guest speakers sometimes, from both in Nebraska and outside. And today we have a mixture of that. This morning we have some people on the line with us and some people next to me here. Our topic for today is library planning, a customized program for success, and some group of people here at the Library Commission and with some of our regional library systems have been putting together this plan to help our libraries get themselves up to speed and planning what they need to do, and they'll explain all about that. But I'll just do some basic introductions here next to me. I have Laura Johnson, who is our Continuing Education Coordinator at the Library Commission. Hi, everybody. And Richard Miller, across the table here, is the Director of Library Development, sorry. Good morning. And on the line with us right now, we have two of our System Administrators of Regional Systems here in Nebraska, Denise Harders, and Sarah Warnock here on the line as well. We may have another one on. We'll see if he makes it. Eric Green is our third that was going to possibly be here today. So I'm going to just go ahead and hand over to you guys to take over and do your presentation and tell us all about what we should be planning for. Who's up first? Hi. I'm sorry. My voice is not at its best today. I have a cold, but we'll get through this. We have put together a plan for planning for Nebraska Public Libraries because we have some new accreditation guidelines. As you may know, Nebraska has had an accreditation program for public libraries for, oh, what, 20 years. And so they were getting, the guidelines were getting a little old. And we had a committee that worked on them very hard for quite some time and came up with some new Nebraska guidelines for public library accreditation. You may have seen them, but these were officially adopted by the commissioners of the Nebraska Library Commission last Friday. So they are now official. We will be using them for the accreditation process. This year, you can take a look at them if you like here. And this is, I think it's linked to on our front page. Yes. It's linked to on our front page of our website. So what is the deal with the new accreditation guidelines? Well, they were developed by a committee of Nebraska librarians. We met for, well, over a year. Right, three years. To work out, you know, how. A year or three. What did accreditation really mean? And what did we, what was really important? It was felt that it was really important that the accreditation guidelines be more flexible. Because sometimes one library might not have something in one area, but they're doing really well in another area. So, and they're community based, which means that they speak to the idea that you're fulfilling your community's needs. And so that was felt to be really important. And this is what we've come up with to try to have that kind of standard for libraries. The committee were these people. And let's give them a big thank you. Big round of applause here for these folks. Because they worked very hard. This was not an easy thing to do, to try to work out what really makes a library a good library. And that's what they were trying to do. These are more flexible. In the former guidelines, you had to meet every guideline. In the new guidelines, you just, for each guideline, there are points that you can earn. And it's how many total points you get at the end. So, if you didn't quite make one guideline, you can make another and make it up. In the former guidelines, when we asked a library to have a particular standard, we had them in size categories, which are more, they were kind of arbitrary. But we didn't want to compare very small libraries with fairly good size libraries. So there were several size categories. Now, with these new guidelines, everyone is going to have essentially a customized category because they will be put in a category with the libraries that are about the same size as they are. And we think that this is going to be fairer. Then the former guidelines had the three E's, essential, enhanced, and excellent, which no one ever remembered, including us. So now we're going to call them gold, silver, and bronze. And we think, thank you to the Olympic Committee for that. And we think that that will be easier for people to remember. So what about these guidelines? Well, they are going to be in effect this year. This will be the first year for them, so we'll see. But the schedule is going to be similar to the accreditation schedules that have we always had in the past, which is about July 1st. Notices will be sent to libraries who are up for re-accreditation because, remember, accreditation is a three-year period. And so about 1 third of our public libraries will be up for accreditation this year. And then to the unaccredited libraries would like to try to be accredited. So you will get a notice around the 1st of July. Then around the 1st of October, we would like to have this all completed. People have wondered about, oh, how does this point thing work? Well, you'll see. All together, if you had everything that these guidelines requested of you, you would earn 275 total points. If you earn at least 250 points, you'll have gold. You'll be at the gold level, 200 at the silver level, 175 at the bronze level. And these levels will work as the levels did before in terms of there's slightly more state aid involved if you get gold level rather than bronze level or silver level. So there is a encouragement to do as well as you can. And to improve as you go along, which we thought was good. Now, when we talk about those peer comparisons, this is actually more confusing to talk about than it is to do. It's simply you rank all the libraries by size and you put the library you're talking about, target library, we'll call it, in the middle. And then you have some libraries bigger and some smaller. So the category is always really, the library is very closest to the library in terms of who you're being compared to. And these are the places in the guidelines where the comparisons happen. When we ask about your local income, we ask about your hours, your staff expenditures, your full-time equivalence of staff, how much you're spending on materials, what your circulation is, what your collection turnover is, what your collection size is, and your attendance per capita. Don't let the numbering system throw you. There are like five categories in the accreditation guidelines and things are numbered one. And then it's 1.01. So we try to keep them very, the numbers try to keep things straight, and they try to make sure that the, what am I trying to say? There's a logic. Yeah, there's a logic to it, but the order, the progression? Hierarchy? Hierarchy. That's the word, hierarchy. We need a resource. The hierarchy of, this keeps them in a hierarchy so you can see how things are related to one another. It wasn't meant to look, well, officially used. It's just, it was meant to keep things in order. We've already had a couple of questions. People saying, well, how am I going to know if I can make my peer comparison? What's going to happen here? Well, actually, the numbers that we will be using, oh, and that's an important part of this, too. We hope to have your application for accreditation pre-filled out with the numbers that you have submitted in the Public Library Statistical Survey. So then, of course, the Public Library Statistical Survey takes on even more significance. And it's awfully important that you do that. And that numbers get reported in very consistent ways. But you can look at those public library surveys. They're here on our website for you to download the numbers if you want so you can figure out where you fit in this. You can also use the IMLS, the Institute of Museum and Library Services, has a little thing, Compare Public Libraries, where you literally, it will compare your library to other libraries. So it will put you in categories. You tell it what libraries you want to compare your library to. So here are ways that you can always find out where you are in your peer comparisons and that will be a mystery. OK, the other thing was about these is they were very much community-based. The idea was that, yes, there probably are some important things about libraries that every library should have. In fact, there's a whole. There is a set of requirements that a library must have before they can even apply for accreditation. Things like, you have to be legally established while everybody's legally established. But how do you best serve your community? Some communities need some kinds of things. Some communities need other things. So we really wanted these things to be community-based if the library's fulfilling your community's needs and wants. So how do we figure that out? Well, that's why the guidelines require a plan. The guidelines are going to ask you to have a strategic plan and tell us what the objectives of your plan were in certain areas. So knowing that we were going to ask for a plan, we also knew that many libraries have worked very hard on strategic planning. And they have plans. Some libraries, for many different reasons, haven't quite. And they maybe are going to need a plan. And so we wanted to find a way for them to get a plan fairly quickly. And so what we did is we put together a set of worksheets or templates. And if you plot these worksheets, then you'll have a plan. Now, this is still not a complete walk in the park. But we think we've made it about as easy as we could. I'm going to show you these worksheets. Here's the first one, which is you plan to plan. Hang on. There we go. OK. Can everybody see it? OK. This sounds almost redundant. Let's plan to plan. But if you put together a schedule, kind of when you're going to do certain things, you know who's going to be involved. You're going to have dates when you really need to have it done. It is going to make your planning more successful. So you do need to take a deep breath and kind of figure out what you're going to do before you start planning. And you will. So this is the first worksheet. Goodness. Then the second worksheet is a community profile. Now, you may have many of these numbers. Your mayor's office may have them. Your planning department. Can you see this? Let's try that. OK. See if I work. Yeah. I'm sorry. OK. Can you see this OK? Yes. OK. So what we've done is we've just picked out the demographic items that seem to be important. And literally, you just fill this out. And we have said, here, for instance, education, we've asked from the AFF, that's American Fact Finder. That's the Census Bureau. The table that includes these things. So you just go to the American Fact Finder. You find your table. And they've simplified the American Fact Finder. There's new software now. And it's really very easy to use. And just fill out this form. It may look, I think it looks too formidable. But we thought this was better than having to decide what went and where you're going to get the stuff. Just fill out the form. Then we have Worksheet 3. And this is perhaps the most time-consuming part of the planning processes. Can you see that OK? Yeah. Because this is where you need to find out about the community needs. And there are, of course, a number of ways to do this, one of them just being observation of people. But you could have a community meeting and ask people. You could have focus groups or key informant interviews, which is you would choose some people who were either very typical of a particular group of people or people who were leaders in a particular group, say the principal of the school or the minister at a church, would be key informants. They could kind of tell you about the group of people that they represent what their needs and wants are. You can do a survey. But surveys can get kind of involved. But there are several ways to do this. And then what you do is you just record everything people say to you. And eventually, you're going to see that here are the same things over and over again. So you kind of take note of how often people talk about that particular thing. Then you put all the things in order by the frequency I've mentioned. And you write down the top 15. So there's 15 things the community needs or wants on the worksheet. Then we go to the library. And you already have a lot of information about your library again from your public library survey. You've already reported your circulation and your hours open and all those things about the library. So you can look at those. But then you also want to look at your strengths, weaknesses, and your opportunities and threats. Now, this is your SWAT chart. But what we've done is we've kind of categorized things. So if you have a strength in human resources, say you have a great group of volunteers, that's really a strength in your library. The weakness, well, maybe you really could use another staff person. And that's a weakness in human resources. So you kind of put that down. And you may not have strengths and weaknesses in all these categories. But you just sort of categorize your strengths and weaknesses. Then you look at your opportunities and threats. And these are things that are really external opportunities for your economy. Oh, an opportunity might be that there's a new plant opening in town. Well, that's definitely an economic opportunity more people coming to town. A threat, a plant's closing. Or I don't know, there's been a real difficult schism in one of the churches or something. So those would be external threats. And those would be things that might affect the library. So you just write those down. And this will kind of give you an idea of where the library is. Then, worksheet five, you look at the community needs. You look at what you think the library has. And you choose those needs that you think the library is uniquely suited to fulfill. And you try to figure out how you're going to fulfill that. And you have a goal and an objective in mind. And probably you're not going to have more than five goals. That may even be ambitious. But for the period of your strategic plan, and we think a strategic plan will probably last from one to three years, you will have goals and say what you would like to accomplish. Then, on worksheet six, you talk about how you're going to evaluate how well you did in achieving your goals. And this is really very important because, well, how do you know if you were successful unless you know how you were going to measure? And you do want to be able to measure things. So you need to know what kind of information you need to be collecting along the way. So at the end, when you get to what your measurements, you have the numbers you need. So you decide at the very beginning how you're going to evaluate. Anyway, and then there is the final sheet, which is the strategic plan for your library. And that's simply a summary of the other worksheets that you put together. So it's not going to happen in one afternoon. It's not something the director can just fill out by himself or herself. But we do think that this will, with a little work from your board and from some concerned community members, you should be able to get this done fairly quickly within several weeks or a couple months. Laura, could this sheet be viewed as kind of a table of contents that they would use for the library? It could sort of be a table of contents that were sort of a summary of what the others are. Yes. But I thought we had the six sheets, but maybe it was important to put it all together in one sheet. So you had it. So you will really have a strategic plan that's one piece of paper. I'd like to emphasize a couple of things that Laura said. And we even want to have Denise and Sarah pipe in as well. One of the things that Laura said that is so important is that you choose goals that the public library is uniquely suited to fulfill or to meet. But one of the things when you're putting together the needs of the community, when you come up with the top 15, those aren't needs that necessarily relate to the library. But you do those first. Because if the library is meeting the needs of the community, it may be something that the library has never done before or is not doing well. So what you're doing is, and the reason she said you look at those and pick out the ones that occur with the most frequency is that then once you identify those, then you say, well, what could the library do? And the example that I always give, and those of you who've heard me say this are probably tired of my saying it, but I remember years ago when I was working and living in Missouri that one of the things that the branches of the St. Louis Public Library were doing was distributing rat poison in the city. And that's a unique role. I don't think I've ever heard another library do that, but they had branches throughout the city that were open more hours and evening hours and weekend hours than the city offices were, and so those became distribution points for that particular purpose. Certainly isn't a traditional library service, but it is a need that the library was meeting by virtue of the fact that it was open, the number of hours it was open. So be creative and open your mind about what it can do. One of the things that you have heard people say is that if you ask people what they want the library to do, they really usually don't know. They usually say, oh, I like to check out books there. That's what typically people think of, first of all, but if you as the library director and your board and your planning group actually investigate the needs of the community, first of all, that's the starting point. So that for example, if you've had a plant close in town and you have people who are desperate to find work and they need to know how to write resumes or they need to know how to apply online or they need to find out about unemployment benefits or any of those things, if you as the library will actually respond to that need, you're in a very strong position in that community to meet an actual community need. So do we wanna have Denise and Sarah chime in here too? Sure. Anyone in particular, first of all, I need both of them. Um, I've got to do it. Okay. Denise and Sarah, you're both unmuted, so feel free to chime in and say whatever. We actually have quite a few public libraries that are going to be going through this process this year. Here at RVLS, there's six public libraries and I know Sarah has quite a few more than that. I simply have 19 if I remember correctly. So I know myself, I've been working on scheduling workshops to go through the DVD that we prepared with the commission. Now that this is ready to roll, we really are working to get it out to the libraries. We'll be going over the DVDs, looking at the handouts that are explanatory sheets and also looking at those worksheets where you'll end up with the plan. I think it's important for the library directors to look at all of this information before using that with your board or with the community planning team. How about you, Sarah? Are you working with individual libraries? That's one process I'm gonna get started this week. So I think it looks like the regional library systems are going to be available to go through this process with you and we're going to help the individual libraries. Of course, the ones that are up for accreditation this year are going to be our top priority, but the other libraries that may not have a plan, it will be great for them to get started so that they're not in this short timeframe. Now I say short timeframe, we'll have until October 1st and that is plenty enough time to get this done that we will need to get started right away for those libraries. So we'll be going, be available as system directors to go out to the libraries, discuss it with the board, maybe even be a facilitator for the beginning stages of the planning process with your community planning team. This is going to be a little bit different process than it's been in the past, but the guidelines were reworked to make it more accessible to our small libraries. So that makes me very excited about it. And so we're going to be working through this process as a team. That's the intention here in RVLS and I know Sarah's working on that too, as well as the other directors. If Sarah doesn't say anything we should talk about again where the videos are and what the guidelines are. Well, we've all worked pretty hard to put together. I'm sorry. This plan for you, but if you already have a strategic plan and I know that many libraries do, if it has these five elements in it, then it can have other stuff too, but if it has at least a community profile, a community needs assessment, a library profile or assessment, the goals and objectives and an evaluation plan, then this will fulfill the requirements of the accreditation guidelines and you do not have to go through this particular strategic planning process that we have developed. We've just developed it because we didn't want to leave people wondering what they needed to do or what was next. But if you've already done planning, then you're fine. Let me add one comment to that. One thing is that when you look at the accreditation guidelines you will notice that every one of the accreditation guidelines except the very first one which says you must have a strategic plan, every one of those says which section of your strategic plan that addresses this guideline. So you will want to view those accreditation guidelines to see if those areas are all covered in your strategic plan. If they're not you may want to look at some modification before you actually have to go through the accreditation process. Now, we also, and Denise and Sarah have been very good sports about this. We made a video on how to do strategic planning. Denise and Sarah and Eric Green and Sharon Osega, all our system administrators and I and Richard made a strategic planning video which is linked to on our front page. This is a screenshot, a snip from our front page of our website. And you can go there and look at it. It's about, it's not quite an hour long. And it's made in sections. So you can use one section or you can look at the whole thing. And it kind of explains how to use these worksheets. It's being, it's processing right now. It's done. It is done. Okay. It's done. So it is available on our website right now. We also are gonna have some handout sheets on how to guide kind of things a little bit more about how to do certain things that will help you with the plan. So, and all of this will be up on our web, on our website because it's just gonna work better if it's on the website. I'm gonna try to put it up on the web but keep it as documents so that they'll really be filloutable. We'll see how that works. Look for a couple of blogs on both this planning process and on the guidelines themselves. One of the things that on that shot that Laura just had up there is that you'll see that the guidelines are also linked on our webpage. Those are guidelines that are not interactive because the way this is gonna happen is that Laura said earlier that we will pre-populate your statistics into the form that you will be using if you're applying for accreditation. Well, that means that each individual library that's applying for accreditation will have its own password because it has unique statistics on there. So the one that's on our website here that's listed that Laura's pointing to which says guidelines is basically a PDF of the guidelines but not the interactive form of the guidelines. The one other thing to mention about the guidelines are that there are some links that explain some of the terminology and the guidelines in cases and misunderstandings. So all of that should be very clear and we tried to build in as much as possible into the guidelines of explanatory material. I think you'll find that they're pretty straightforward. They are very different from the guidelines we've been using for the last six or seven years but as Laura said and as we've heard from our system administrators they should be applicable to your community. They do reflect the fact that you as the library are trying to meet the needs of your community. They are less prescriptive in terms of saying you shall have this and more directional in terms of what are your local needs and what do you have to reflect or respond to those needs. So it should be along with the whole idea of having a peer group that's closer that you're in the middle of it. We think they're more equitable in terms of the accreditation guidelines. At least that's our hope. But this first year is a test. If there are major things that don't work we'll have to do some modifications in them but we hope that you'll give them a try. We think you'll find them very useful for your community and the tie-in was planning will make them more useful we hope to your community and your library. I have a question. The sheets that you were showing here that these are just right on our desktop here we're showing they're gonna be on the website too for people to access them. Yes, cool. And we'll be getting them up, I hope, within the week. Yeah, they're not there at the moment. I know that. The video is there so you can start watching that. Yes, the video's there, it's ready to go. The guidelines are there but these worksheets are yet to go up. And we're gonna be interested to hear how people view this experience and if they think this works for them in terms of strategic planning but we really think that this is gonna hit them. It's gonna hit the high spots but we are gonna get, everybody's gonna get a plan and I'll plan they can work with them because we will need them in accreditation to know how you did with the strategic plan too. So this is gonna be something that you are gonna be working with for your neck through the accreditation period. We do have a question that just came in. Jessica Chamberlain from our Norfolk Public Library has a question. Since the accreditation forms will be pre-made for each library will I be able to see my particular library's guidelines and comparisons even though I'm not up for accreditation this year or will we only be showing that to everybody or here? I think what I'll say is we'll have to consider if we can do that or not. That's a very good question. So for right now you're just doing the ones that are up for, we may have to do that a little later. Yeah, because we wanna get these ones that are up right away. That's a good point because I think if we sent them not to everybody initially there would be some confusion about whether the library's up for accreditation or not. So that's a good point though. But you can of course go to the public library statistics or the library compare at IMLS to look at how your library compares because the numbers we're gonna be using are the ones that you've reported in your public library survey. One of the things Jessica that you know since you were assistant administrator before this is that you know that those statistics and the peer group statistics will change each year because they're based on last year statistics the final full year that we have from each of the public libraries. So that will change each year. But I did have a question from another library director saying, wait a minute, if I in the past I could look at the accreditation guidelines the way you've had them on your website and at least work toward that even if I was not up for accreditation this year. So we will take that into account. I think that's another issue we have to look at. Do we have any more questions? If anybody has any questions, comments or anything type them into the questions section of your GoToWebinar interface. As you can see from Jessica's I'm following that along here in the laptop so we can pass it on. Do you want to unmute Denise and Sarah? Is there anything else to... Denise and Sarah you guys are unmuted again if you have anything to add or share. Sarah did you have anything? No, I think we've gone about all that covered. I just think I have gotten questions as I've been out doing other workshops I've gotten questions and there seems to be some anxiety about these new guidelines because it is so different than what we've done in the past and also there's concerns about well I'm really small am I actually going to be able to get to the gold level and I think that was really making this a more equitable process and making those higher levels of accreditation accessible to the smaller libraries was part of the whole point. So I just want people to know as you go through this accreditation process is no, like Laura said it's not a walk in the park but it certainly is something that everyone can accomplish as far as getting a plan in place and then once the plan is in place then it's time to look at those accreditation guidelines and see where you fall. But it is going to be a real team process with the commission, with the system administrators and the library to get through this first time for sure and then we can work a little bit longer with everybody else. You make a good point Denise also and I think that the point that you made and Laura made earlier is that this planning is an important process whether or not you're up for re-accreditation or whether you're even applying for accreditation or not because you are trying to meet the needs of your community this should strengthen you and put you in a stronger position in your community when the funders come forward and say why should we fund you? Well, you can say we're meeting the needs of the community here they are, we have done this investigation we have done the SWOT analysis we have met with focus groups we have determined and heard from the community these are their needs and here's what we're doing those are what funders like to hear rather than give us money because we're the public library and we've always been here that doesn't hack it anymore so this is an important thing I want to go back to the accreditation guidelines for just a minute to thank the group that worked with us for over two years on those accreditation guidelines and Steve Batty who is the current chair of the commission did send thank you letters to all the members of the of the accreditation guidelines group because not only did they work very hard with us over the years with John and Laura and myself but they actually did that on their own dime or on the library's own dime because we didn't have money to pay for transportation or meals everybody sort of fed themselves it came on their own time, their own, their own dime so we really do appreciate what they have done it was quite daunting I think they came up with quite a useful document well we hope everybody will take a look at the at the video it was a very interesting experience for us and we're so photogenic you'll see you know we're trying to expand and use new media when it's appropriate and everything and Denise and Sarah and Sharon and Eric all came in it was a really good sport this is Denise there's a reason I am not an actor cameras are not good for me welcome to the club you look very nice on camera what did you think Sarah? I didn't bother eating that much I kind of fell back in some of my old high school future teens and I had to get up and do that oh so you had fun huh? I don't know if I could say fun well we hope it's going to be helpful to people we hope some of the handouts and the explanatory material will be helpful and filling out the worksheets we'll make this we'll kind of streamline this process and so let me use a metaphor that Laura used when we first started putting this planning process together and she said that we could go the route of doing the rather long and somewhat laborious task of a really intensive strategic planning process which if you look at some of the strategic planning process they'll say well maybe six months to do this or whatever the one before that said well it's going to take about a year Laura described the process that this group has come up with as the drive-in window approach as opposed to the full banquet approach we hope that this is useful that it will provide a structure for you if your library feels that it wants to do more or do this more extensively that's fine I think that's a good metaphor to use we hope it makes it simpler for you or at least digestible for you and that you can move ahead in your communities but please contact us contact your system administrators if we can help in any way as Denise has already issued the invitation we'd all be happy to come out and help you with the process we do have one comment from the audience it's very helpful thank you for doing it that's what I hope so but don't let this throw you up don't be afraid of it because it's not really scary when you get into it change is good it was cool to you on that maybe I haven't heard that before any last minute comments questions enter them in here questions if I stare and if not it doesn't look like anything urgent if you do have any questions as this process goes on ask you can contact your regional system offices you can call me you can call Richard there we go and we are interested to know what your experience is with this and what you think of it and if you just want to blow off steam about it because you're really ticked call me I'm cool with that but we really did do it because we thought it was going to be helpful and it was going to be a constructive way to approach the whole idea of accreditation so let us know it doesn't look like anything urgent came in well we were talking here so I think we will officially wrap up this session for today thank you very much Sarah and Lisa and Laura for coming and talking about this big changes for libraries in Nebraska but nothing to terrifying we hope lots of help available ask get what you need get your accreditation done thank you very much for attending this week's episode and it was recorded so it will be available afterwards if you want to listen to it again and see some of the things we're on here if you want to share it with any of your colleagues I hope you'll join us next week when it is our monthly tech talk with Michael Sowers once a month he comes on to our show and does he's the technology innovation librarian here at the library commission and once a month he comes on and shares any of the tech news of the past month and that will be next week and he has it will also have on the show with him Richard Byrne who writes the and maintains the free technology for teachers blog so if you work with teachers in your area if you are a library in a school this would be something really good for you sharing some of the things that would be good for teachers to use online so sign up for that for us next with us next week and also if you are interested in let's see Encompass Live is on Facebook we have a like button here for that so if you are a big Facebook user you can follow us on Facebook and we have announcements of when we have new shows coming up when recordings are available any links or anything that we find that may be related to any of the episodes we've had on looks like it's having trouble getting to Facebook at the moment but you can follow us there on Facebook so we definitely encourage that and look for blogs on both the accreditation guidelines and the planning yes on the commission's home page we have our blog here so they will be doing updates to that when they have all these things out there when those help sheets are put up the video is already available as we said it's right here linked and it should bring you right to YouTube where we host all of our library commission videos there is our Facebook page so as you can see here we announced when new shows are coming so definitely follow us on Facebook so other than that I think we are wrapped up for today thank you very much for attending and we will see you next time bye