 I say that. I say things like, I'm going to start the video and go right into the pre-roll. And then Justin walks away. I had to close the door. Oh no, it wasn't even that. Then I don't plug in my sound board. I also need my mic so there's no way I would show up on camera. Alright. Happy holidays everyone. Here we go. The Daily Tech News show is brought to you by me. Thanks me. If you also wish to bring it, go to dailytechnewshow.com slash support. That's dailytechnewshow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News show for Wednesday, December 30th, 2015. I'm Tom Merritt joining me today for our predictions results show. Our producer, Jenny Josephson, who by percentage had the best results from last year's predictions. Jenny, I say you just go to one prediction this year and go for 100%. Alright, I'm in. Also joining us, Justin Robert Young, who like me probably is better off not looking at how we did. But you know, it's all about the fun of trying, right Justin? Fun thing about predictions, Tom, is that they're never wrong. They're just not right yet. That's exactly right. We both have a couple of those actually. And Patrick Beja, you actually got a couple pretty close to right. Well done. Yes, thank you. But let's not celebrate just yet. We're going to go through the arduous process of explaining who is right and who is wrong. That's a great tease ahead. If you want something arduous, folks, stay tuned. If you don't know what we're doing every year, since Buzz out loud days and through the tech news today days, I've always done a prediction show at the end of the year with whomever I was hosting my shows with. And the first year we did one, I thought, well, we should check in on these. And so we've held ourselves to that because a lot of people make these predictions articles on blogs. They never go back and look at how well they did. So that's kind of the fun of like, alright, let's see where our mindset was last year. And it does kind of remind me how differently we think from year to year when we go back and look at these. So it's very fun. We're going to start with Justin Robert Young and your five predictions last year, starting with one that I think was a really good bet. And like you said at the beginning of the show, it just means it's not true yet. Snapchat will IPO and offer pro subscriptions. Well, so neither of those things happened yet. Definitely, IPO is in the offer. You guys keep saying yet, yet, yet. We're talking about 2015 predictions. It's not like if it happens in 20 years, you can't go back and say, Hey, what is that? Drake, I was right. Alright, listen, Dion Sanders, if you want to dance in the touchdown all this show, then that's fine. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Let us recover a shred of our dignity pattern. This is the smile of the audio listeners just missing the Cheshire cat brand, right? Okay, so here's the deal. Snapchat did not IPO in 2015. I was wrong, okay, to the delight of Frenchmen everywhere. I was wrong, wrong, wrong with a capital W-Tang W. But I do think that Snapchat did get a closer to becoming something that they want to be when they get close to IPO or when they want IPO and has started to see not only the money transferring platform that they had done prior to this year, but also beginning to offer new add-ons like the face animations and stuff like that that they now are looking at as kind of their version of stickers for an increased revenue stream. So we saw Snapchat continue to tack closer to the let's be a grown-up media, social media company, but not an IPO and no pro subscriptions. I don't know what pro subscriptions would even necessarily look like right now. Yeah, that's the part that I'm not sure whether it will happen exactly that way, but they will IPO. I guess the company could go out of business before that or they can just decide to stay private forever, but it seems unlikely. Your next prediction, Veronica Mars moment coming to Patreon, music related, and YouTube will buy Subbable. If you just rearranged some words in there, Justin, you would have nailed it because Patreon bought Subbable. Patreon bought Subbable. So yeah, we saw YouTube's... I mean like the spirit had it there. So yeah, you know, the space between me being right and wrong I don't think is very, very far the actual hard predictions for which this is a metric of and I want to make sure that everyone knows that I was wrong while justifying and explaining what happened. Patreon did have a grown-up moment. Unfortunately, it was a hacking scandal as opposed to one of their rather snagging kind of a big star which is what I think still is destined to happen. If somebody is going to... I'll use the term downshift from a major media opportunity to a direct media opportunity and to be honest, where I think it would have been perfect and I am almost... I'm very kind of upset that they decided to go with I think the ill or the ill or fit of Kickstarter was something like MST3K where I think if MST3K launched as a Patreon and not a Kickstarter I feel like that would qualify for something like that and meanwhile I was right Subbable was a goner. I was wrong in that YouTube wanted to do YouTube Red and Patreon was the home for that platform. I think the problem with Kickstarter is that with MST3K you need the money up front to get started and that's what Kickstarter gives you. Patreon doesn't get you the money until you start doing things. So it's kind of like you need Kickstarter to get going. Maybe MST3K still could shift to a Patreon model. If they were done with it, I think it would be better for them to do a Season 2 with that than necessarily another Kickstarter. That's why I said it was music and not TV initially because I think music has a lower overhead. If there is a Prince, and that was my example because he already has Paisley Park Studios. He's already got a place where he can go record everything. It's just a matter of releasing it. I just wanted to add we're recording a little bit earlier in 2015 so actually it might still happen. For the second part, the spirit was definitely there. YouTube did go Red and Subbable did get bought. That's very generous of you, Patrick. Not since they gave us the Statue of Liberty. The relationship between France and the United States has been so warm. It will last. Which by the way was a totally crowd-funded event. Statue of Liberty? Yeah, the Statue of Liberty was raised by money paid by regional governments and small little schools and stuff in France for the statue. Laboulet raised the money. In the US, Joseph Pulitzer was the guy who got out and got the $1. He asked for $1 donations to build the pedestal on Bedelow Island. I just learned about that last night. You have brought up one of the first crowd-funded events. There we go. If you pledge $10, you get the digital copy of the Statue of Liberty. Patrick's point is well-raised though. All of these predictions could still yet come true. Even if you're listening to this on December 30th, there's still one more day. If this is the case, then I was right. Maybe. You said Apple TV will not come out, which it did. And Apple TV came out. But AirPlay becomes an imperative in Apple devices and you even said something about maybe an Apple TV stick. This was dead wrong. Again, this is the nomenclature problem of Apple TV meaning a set and not a set-top box. The idea that I had was that AirPlay was just really, really rad and they need to be able to get it on more devices and Android devices specifically. This is just dead wrong. I don't know if Apple, especially as more things continue to catch up with its functionality, I think they really squandered something with AirPlay in terms of how easy that was for people that were in the Mac ecosystem for that to never really crack outside of that, I think really was a missed opportunity. Comcast and Time Warner Cable Merger will be approved. That didn't happen. It was the opposite. It wasn't even disapproved. Comcast just pulled out and said, fine, you're not going to approve it. We give up pulling out. April 27th they were done with it. And then Uber CEO Travis Kalanick will not end 2015 as CEO. Still a day or 27 days, depending how you look at it? Yeah, that's not true. Uber has continued to grow and a fairly clean sheet for Mr. Kalanick in terms of not saying something that would make people cringe and scream and yell that he is not the kind of person that you would want as a CEO of the fastest growing company ever. In fact, the exact opposite, the rabble-rousing days seem to at least, in terms of public perception, be behind him. Wait, are those the only ones that you have for me? Yeah, those are the ones that I said. You can make some up now in retrospect. No, no, no, no. By the way, I'm just looking into a Google Doc I have called DTNS Predictions. I do not believe that I have opened this up since we did that first episode. I'm going to show you what is at the bottom of it. Apparently, I did not say it, right? These are the notes from last year. I just took them right out of the Google Doc from last year where Jenny was assiduously documenting them as we said them and assigning them percentage chances, by the way. Yes, so here is what... I'm going to full screen here so everybody can see. Is that flipped? No, I can't see it. I see Spider-Man be confirmed to appear in a Marvel movie. That is on my sheet. Now, apparently, I did not say it. Apparently, it is not recorded. I'm just saying that on my DTNS Predictions sheet, I have everything that you just said. Apple IPO, Patreon 11, Veronica Mars moment, Apple, Yadda Yadda Comcast, Travis Kalanick. Spider-Man will be confirmed in a Marvel movie. That is just so it's... Alright, I'm... God, that's frustrating. Well, let's start to see how Patrick did. We'll start with his Uber Predictions. It flows out of yours. Patrick, you said Uber will operate without issue at the end of the year. In one sense, that's true because Uber is operating and where it operates. It seems to operate without issue, but it certainly hasn't stopped being sued and battling and banned in certain parts of the world. Yeah, I'm not sure I would give myself this one. They're having less issues. They're a little bit less controversial, but they certainly didn't operate the... They didn't go the full, but now we have to take all of this seriously and we should pay attention to what we're saying. I mean, they didn't have... I don't think some ridiculous scandals, like, I don't know, getting, you know, naked porn stars to drive you somewhere, like they almost had at one point. You know, there were like very attractive ladies that would drive you somewhere. There was one scandal in France. What country was that in? Actually, in France, there was, I think, there was almost a place in France where the naked ladies drive you. On Uber, yes. So, yeah, I'm not sure. I think they're on the right track, but it's certainly proving still to be more controversial than they would like. And they're not, you know, seeing how Airbnb is operating and making, you know, nice with pretty much everyone, making lots of efforts. They're not exactly the same situation, but I would have thought that Uber would go more that way and I guess they didn't quite. Well, Uber also facing kind of different situations. No longer is it necessarily just fighting the taxi unions and local regulations in terms of who can drive a car. It's now kind of evolved specifically in California and possibly now as a national kind of election issue about the idea. They are the poster boys of the, you know, the independent contractor, you know, the situation here in America, which some people say, a lot of people say, that this is a great opportunity where people can make money without a set schedule and some people say it's a way to, for a big, gigantic, vastly growing company to cheat employees out of rightful benefits and pay time off by offering them a lesser form of employment. A large wave on the horizon for Uber, specifically if the California Equalization Board rules against them again on appeal, which they've already done once. And yesterday on the Listener Co-host show, Sakane was one of our Listener Co-hosts who drives an Uber and a delivery truck and pointed out that the delivery truck company also employs the drivers as independent contractors and he had some interesting things to say about the different approach that the delivery company worked for took versus Uber. So, you know, I mean, you should definitely, folks, I'm just going to say go back and listen to his comments on that because he's someone who's living this situation and he's not bashing it, but he's also like, here's what they do well and here's some things I wish they would do better. Apple Watch will sell well, meet expectations, but go unused, Patrick. That's what you said. That's a hard one. Sort of? I think, honestly, if I may judge myself on my prediction, I think at least I don't know if it's what I said exactly, but the intent was realized, which is it did sell okay. We don't have numbers, which I think is already in itself an indicator that Apple isn't touting them, so they're not as, you know, if they were excellent, I think they would tout them a little bit more. So, I guess they met expectations. They still took the first place in that category, but there we enter the very subjective area of this prediction. When I say we'll go unused, I think I have heard many, many people who were hoping that the Apple Watch would do something for them and it ended up not and they are not using it anymore. And some people that were, you know, even users of connected bracelets and, you know, smart devices. But, of course, you're always going to have some people that say, oh, I love my Apple Watch. It does everything I want out of it and it's become a staple of my digital life today and it's difficult to, so it's difficult to judge whether or not it's a complete success. I still think that it didn't, you know, become the thing that we could have hoped for smart watches in the same way that the iPhone or iPad did for their respective categories, which is make it into something more than it already was. Hold on, Patrick. I was just getting a little alert on my Apple Watch. It says, yeah, no, that's wrong. I think it was wristly six months after the release of the Apple Watch, satisfaction remained to the tune of 96%. That is complete bull crap. I cannot believe that number for one second. 96% of purchasers of the Apple Watch Right, of course, obviously. Yes, if the people kept using it, they're happy with it, obviously, but I don't think that applies to everyone who bought a watch. Well, and you know, I don't want to beat any kind of horse. I don't think horses deserve that, but a collection of 17 analysts after the last quarterly earnings report from Apple told Fortune Magazine their predictions for Apple Watch sales last quarter, or not predictions really, but estimates, and the number varied from two and a half million to six million, so we don't really even know if it isn't the Apple Watch. No, we don't. Although Apple Watch sales, I think, considering, it's interesting to see where expectations should be on that, considering it is something that needs an Apple 6 or 6 plus, or 6, 6 and above, right, to use, and then beyond that, we haven't, I mean, like, through the Christmas season, I think, that's really where we're going to see whether or not it is a underselling product as opposed to, you know, whatever it did in the middle of the year. I think you can pair it with an iPhone 5. Can you? Does it need an FC or no? No, it doesn't. What am I saying? Of course not. Yeah, there's a few people saying they're using it with the 5, but yeah, I mean, the point still stands. Okay, yeah, 5 and above. Yeah. So we'll give you, I'll give you 50% on that. I'll take it, I'll take it. Wait, on the selling... On Apple Watch, you'll sell well, meet expectations, I guess. Oh, all right, jeez. All right, then yeah. No, no, I agree. Uber, it'll do okay. No, no, you're right. I actually, I'm anticipating your snark, sir, and I agree that that, you know, the sell well, meet expectations. The thing is, remember when we made these predictions, it was still a moment where we could have guessed or hoped or thought that the Apple Watch would sell explosively, and by that I don't mean that it would explode, but that it would sell immensely. I think in that sense, it didn't, but yes, it was a meek prediction. Now your next one isn't true yet. It's one of those kind of things, but you said live video would be the last big bandwidth hog we see on the net, and bandwidth is a non-issue. Yeah, this one is difficult as well. I also probably wouldn't give it to myself, but and again, I'm sure that there are some people that have issues with, even with live video, and that you can't use it because of bandwidth gaps. It has become more commonplace. I think you're, this is like a two to three year trend. If it ends up being true. I think that it's quite possible some other thing pops up that we're unaware of. Maybe it's virtual reality, right? That starts to be the new bandwidth hog, but not right for 2015. And right now you've probably got 4K reasons why that, you know, 4Ks. Well, it will not be the last bandwidth hog. Maybe not. Oculus Rift VR and others will come out, but no killer app in 2015 and took the under on 3.82 million units. I'm not sure how we got that 3.82 million units. I think we must have found it. Yeah, so on this one I was too generous. It didn't even come out. But on the other hand, it didn't come out, so it doesn't have a killer app. So yay, prediction. I don't know if you get to claim the dependency on that one. No, I don't. It wouldn't come out. It's wrong in the first sentence. Yes, no, I agree. He's trying to say, but then no killer app came out either. No, no, no, no. I said it would come out and it didn't come out, but I think it was a lot more certainly it would come out, so I was kind of pushing it away saying it wasn't really ready by saying, yeah, it's going to come out clearly and then the apps will come later. Again, at a time where we could have thought it would come out with lots of cool apps. But yeah, it's not. We are in a really weird place with VR still. Like, it just kind of feels like there's a few of these verticals and VR is one of them that we're just all waiting. It'll happen eventually. Don't worry. Well, next year. Here, VR is a purported hit amongst the people who have a Samsung device that can take advantage of it. I mean, they sold out of their first run of them and everything. Well, we don't know how many they made. And also, it's like, what, the HTC Vive? Vive. You know, that's apparently like life changing. That's like, you know, I hear more people screaming yell about their Vive experiences than ayahuasca drum circles. Yeah. They're in the Bay Area. That's a lot of people. But yeah, it's also not out. Or is it? On December 30th. Yeah. Well, no, you have some SDKs. They've said they wouldn't have a commercial release until next year. But also, the problem with that is that it is life changing because of the accessories and the fact that you have the little movement and placement sensing totems that you have to place in your room, which means you need to have a relatively large room and move around. So I'm not sure how usable this is going to become once it's in the hands of the actual consumers. I'm willing to give you your last one. 4K will be a big holiday season push in 2015, and it is. It's not the only one, obviously. They're never just one holiday season push, but they are definitely out there pushing their ultra-high-def TVs. Yeah, this is also on the level of, you know, Star Wars movie will come out. It's not like I was. I think last year we were still wondering about 4K. Like, it isn't there yet. Will it be here by next year? Jenny, you gave it a 75% chance of being right, so I think we were confident in it, too. Yeah. I, you know, I don't know. I don't know. Sorry, I got distracted because I was thinking of a new prediction based on this virtual reality stuff and how it will affect the way people buy homes. But I'll have to save that one tomorrow. Sorry, I was like all off in my mind crafting the prediction. But Justin was getting angry at the point. That's how you play the game. Oh, no, I wasn't getting angry. I'm just like telling televisions during Christmas, now I've seen everything. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like trying to predict that Spider-Man is going to be in a Marvel movie. Alright. We didn't know that then. That was news this year. Nobody. I was way in front of that and I just didn't say it. It was on my notes. Patrick, if I've learned anything from Trivia, Justin does not like to be wrong. Alright. Back off. Oh God, what a fraudulent situation. Alright, let's get to tongue. I must have been hit in the mouth. I cancelled the convention the next year to deal with the scandal. Everybody knows. It was such a scandal. They cancelled it for one year to let the stink blow over. Fair enough. But that's just making it seem more true. Yeah, sure. Listen. I must have been hitting the bourbon when I wrote these predictions because even I can't really remember what I was getting at. Or some of them are just like me grasping at any way to be right, I think. Internet of Things will start applying to more than just things as wearables underwhelm. Think services like pay-as-you-drive insurance, which by the way I talked about it on the show last year is like, well yeah, that's a thing that is happening. And so I was like, yeah, but more things like that. I couldn't quite explain to you guys what I was trying to say and I still don't know. But if I was going to give myself any credit here, it would be that wearables definitely are underwhelming and Internet of Things just is steam rolling along. Verizon just launched their special LTE service just for it. There's lots of security companies getting in on figuring out how to best secure your Internet of Things, so it is steam rolling along. I don't know if that's what I meant. I would like to think it was. Let's say it was. Sure, let's agree that it was. I'll give myself 10% credit on this one. But yeah, I do think where I was going was more of the Internet of Things will be the hotness. And I don't know that it's quite there yet. The way wearables still are, even if they're underwhelming. People talk about wearables. You see them in all the stores. You see clothing stores with them. Internet of Things not. You got your Amazon Echoes out there, but they're still kind of on the fringes. Although it's not quite there yet. Echo is something that I feel like is a few kind of like SDK plugins away or like, you know, I think that that's there. Echo as a platform was a huge, huge, huge win for Amazon. Yeah, and if you look at this doc that I just found, I wrote Amazon Echo will be a huge platform. Oh, I swear. I did not. I think it was even in the post-show that I said it. I think you did. It actually sounds familiar now that you've said that. So we're going to give you credit for that. 3D printing will hit the mainstream double in sales. It will have its Commodore 64 moment. I'm one third right. It definitely did double in sales, but that is also a little bit like a Star Wars movie will come out. It's been doubling in sales every year because the sales were 100 million and then they were 200 million and they're even saying it's going to be 400 million next year. I don't know that we had our Commodore 64 moment with 3D printing this year. No. Yeah, I don't think we did. I don't see a 3D printer that's being advertised in prime time television and everybody's like, oh, I have a friend who has that. And Brian had it got one. And so they're, you know, more top of mind I think in our audience especially. Yeah, and then Scott Johnson got one. So they're starting to get out there, but I think we're maybe in the Vic 20 moment, not the Commodore 64 moment. But ultimately, you have to wonder whether or not the future of 3D printing really lies on the producer side or the consumer side because I think that we are seeing more than guaranteed products for people to buy and that's giving a tremendous opportunity for people to build with flexibility. However, as a Commodore thing, as a 3D printer in every home, I still think that there's a question of, well, what do I build aside from figurines? Yeah, and in manufacturing, 3D printing is becoming a norm. But that's, you know, that's an entirely different arena. It's about the producer versus the consumer. Here's one where I was super high. Context will be the hot new buzzword. Systems will use context more and be context aware. Look at Google's recapture as an early example. Example. I think in some sense, systems are using context more. We're talking a lot about machine learning and deep learning and that sort of thing, but context did not become a hot new buzzword. That was a noble cut. That was a noble swing of the bet. Because I feel like I still kind of believe that I could put my shoulder in it. Yeah, that I could hear people like, well, what is the future of Uber? Context. I kind of feel like that is a buzzword waiting to happen. In some sense, you could look at this and say we went with different buzzwords. We're talking a lot about natural language processing and deep learning and machine learning. Yeah, it's almost I think machine learning could have been I mean it's not exactly the same buzzword, but you could almost work it into that. Almost, almost. Because in a way the machine learning bases itself on the, it helps do the thing with the stuff. In a way we've seen it so much more though this year. And you saw as Google Maps, the leader in that kind of technology continued to put ways in there the integration of those features have become that is all context aware stuff and even Apple has become more and more in that pick up your phone and it will show you if it knows that you're away from home, how far it's going to take you back home on your lock screen. So it's like context is there, we're not saying the word we're not using the C word Tom. Yeah, it didn't become the actual buzzword. Don't use that word. Early examples of autonomous machines, not yet self-driving cars but more than a Roomba. Good clever prediction crafting on my part. I left it loose enough that it could mean almost anything autonomous. So I'm right because we are getting autonomous drones and other autonomous products out there. Like what? Well, like autonomous drones and also other drones. No, we're getting a lot of robotics. There's the Dutch robot that can guide you from gate to gate at the airport. There's the friendly pal that goes around in the retail stores in Japan. There's autonomous programs. That's what I'm saying. I left the construction of my prediction loose enough that it could account for anything that arose that happened to have autonomy in it. But things like that are around. Fair enough. We did see, although you did cut out self-driving cars, probably the biggest you could own in gigantic quotes italicized self-driving car if you owned a Tesla that had the auto drive. Right, you get an almost self-driving car. But in terms of public perception, that's a huge thing. And it is somewhat autonomous. And it downloaded right there. Yeah, I think a bit broad. I think that prediction's favorite comedy central television show is Broad City. Yeah, I think that was a broad joke. Risk-based security brings things down while being honest about what it can't prevent and apps will become self-protecting. Risk-based security was a big buzzword at the end of last year and it has continued to be discussed. And there are certainly companies putting out more products around that idea of targeting risks and defending against them instead of taking this holistic approach. So in a broad sense, we have definitely more risk-based security in the pivot towards that. I don't think I'm going to give myself credit for this because I don't see a lot of apps there were a few last year and there's still a few now that build themselves as self-protecting versus needing to have some kind of overall encryption, protection, security, TLS, etc. Yeah, I don't know enough about this field to you know go into what should have been expected versus what happened but I don't think that this is a win. I do want to note that the Wall Street Journal had an article out in September about Facebook working on self-protecting apps so maybe, just maybe. Well, as we were saying earlier in the show, 2015 is not over yet. Alright, Jenny, you made two predictions, show specific predictions last year. The first of which we, me and you are largely responsible for making untrue which you predicted we would reach our video goal this year and we actually took our video goal away instead. So we took the prediction off the table which we We took it off the board. Which means I got 100% That's right, we just invalidated your first one and your second one which was by June we'll have our final two contributors and we did. And we were so excited to have them and be moving ahead actually even into a new year which might find us reaching the goal of having an international version of DTNS DTNS Day 6 is a looming possibility in 2016. Yeah, who knows maybe we're right there right now because of you ladies and gentlemen. All right, well that is a look at how we did tomorrow you will get a window into how we're going to do as we do our prediction show for next year but before we wrap up Mr. Patrick Beja, thank you so much not just for being on this show but for being a part of this show now for more than a year man, it's it's extra tricky when you're emotion away and in another country under their laws that are different than our laws doing business arrangements and I just want to say 100 and if that were possible more percentage appreciate you being part of this show. Well, you could make it to 150% Sure, yeah as much as the math will allow that is when we become a little bit sappy I'm incredibly thankful to you and Jenny for allowing me to be part of this amazing adventure and obviously I'm going to start some people might think this is pandering but I'm really incredibly thankful to you both for letting me be part of the amazing community that you have created around this and your shows and making me in a way part of the diamond club frog pants podcasters extraordinary family so it's not just the shows it's also the people around the shows including the listeners so I'm incredibly happy to be part of this and I hope we can continue doing it for a very long time. Me too me too. Frenchspin.com folks find more Patrick if you haven't already he's got the Philius Club and Pixels and much much more so go check that out Justin, Robert, Young, same goes for you my friend now more than a year as well and I can't imagine doing this show without you I'd really super 100% plus appreciate it. Can I say something about Patrick real quick? I think Patrick not only is an amazing contributor to this show but I think something that gets lost is like I can't imagine doing a talk show in a non-native language I mean like I have no second language let alone you know the ability to kind of do what is very very hard I mean most people who speak English would find it very very hard to do you know and then if we spoke English your entire life and our profession it's their only language so Patrick I think is very very good and you know very specifically I think this has been a very very inspiring year in your hometown and to have a voice that is articulate as your own speaking on a lot of that kind of stuff especially as it's resulted in technology I think it's been very important in illuminating I know for me as a listener and I'm very very I think it's rad that you're making me I predict Patrick will cry yeah finally finally expect such kindness 30 seconds folks you want more of that kind of Justin Robert Young there's all kinds of it you gotta follow the guy Justin are young on Twitter and is there is there a home for Justin Robert Young projects that you point people to because you got so much going on yeah I don't know man the Twitter is the way to go you know you can follow a jury talks for my one Mike show that is general interest politics politics politics for my show that's about home and gardening um you know there's there's there's all sorts of stuff but but really the the the Twitter is the way to go and of course ladies and gentlemen the contender on sale now everybody go ahead to thecontender.us to pick up your copy as they are arriving for us to send out to the top Kickstarter backers tomorrow I'm tracking it as it makes its way across December 31 I thought they were already out haha oh wait hold on oh stop oh this is never mind it's already out yeah it's so awesome everyone I predict you all have uh now fantastic man uh it is it is such and this goes for for all the contributors it's it's such a relief uh to get ready for a show every day and say like oh it's Justin today uh you know like I just get excited because you're passionate about stories you've got years of not only journalism expertise working at a newspaper back in the day but blogging and dealing with communities and following this stuff and it's it's fantastic uh which brings us to the only other person who's about to hit two years on this show Mrs. Jenny Josephson uh I can't express how much I thank you for everything you've done for this show well you know you've only changed my entire life and made me completely internet savvy and given me a warm and loving community that is so nice to be and sends me presents in the mail so you know I'm pretty happy it's been a pretty great two years it's it's sort of brought into my world view into something that I never thought would be possible that's fantastic and I hope I hope that that shows to people that we all really care about the show and we want to keep doing this show and we incredibly appreciate every one of you as well that you care about the show uh and want to keep it going dailytechnewshow.com slash support is what most of you are doing to to make the show happen and if you're not and you're willing to uh go check it out there's there's different ways to support the show patreon is is the big one because that gives us an idea of how much we're going to get every month on an ongoing basis but there's also paypal and people do schedule paypal donations and and there's the store in there as well if you got a little Christmas bonus uh that you're looking to I don't know get a DTNS mug or something like that uh dailytechnewshow.com slash store as well uh our email address is feedback at dailytechnewshow.com you can give us a call 5125932459 start in January 3rd again you'll be able to catch the show live on Monday through Friday at 430 Eastern at alphageekradio.com and diamondclub.tv and our website is dailytechnewshow.com tomorrow an all new round of predictions talk to you then this show is part of the frog pants network get more at frogpants.com diamond club hope you have enjoyed this brover thanks everybody see you tomorrow