 Welcome to the Knuckleheads of Liberty. Ron DeSantis recently suspended an elected district attorney because he didn't like the way he was or in this case wasn't doing his job. So this sounds like a prosecutor that was in the cut from the same basketball or George Gascon. Gascon, yeah. So essentially somebody who just wasn't prosecuting enough people and putting him in jail and it sounded like maybe they were having some crime issues there that he didn't feel like were being addressed and they used some aspect of Florida law that allowed the governor to suspend the DA if they didn't think they were fulfilling the office I think so. But anyways it's raised a question. I mean if the voters wanted that person in there and they like that type of governance, should the governor really be coming in and removing that person? What do you guys think about this? Well as a philosophical idea, as a philosophical idea, I do not like the actions of Ron DeSantis in this particular case. He's a very good governor. He does a great job. But in this particular case, I do not like his idea philosophically. However, okay, because I do not think, I think elected officials are only responsible to the voters. Okay, if the voters put you there, whatever nonsense you choose to do, well that's on the voters. And no no authority should be able to remove you from office unless you know there's some sort of malfeasance that you could directly point to and then it could be impeached. Okay, that to me should be the process. However, in this particular case, the Florida constitution allows DeSantis to do this. So I don't think he's out of bounds in doing what he did. But philosophically I can't agree with it. Because I think this man should only be responsible to the voters. Now we have all over the country, we are one in LA, Philadelphia, St. Louis, we have them all over the country, Alvin Bragg in Manhattan, the same thing. They are not enforcing the law and when people are arrested they are not charging them with appropriate crimes and they're turning them loose and they're turning them loose on the people that they're elected to protect. People like us, me and you. That is the people that they're turning them loose on. And this is a real, real problem. But if the voters choose these people, if the voters choose these people to run their show, to run their judicial systems that are in play, then we have to abide by it. Otherwise we end up in a banana republic. So in this particular case, even though I like around DeSantis as a governor, I think I can't agree with it philosophically but I know he has the backing of the Florida Constitution in his actions. Well, if he has the backing of the Constitution, shouldn't he be able to do that to step in? We were talking about how so many of these of citizens shooting in self-defense because of the increase in crime and it's partly because they're letting criminals go. So maybe DeSantis is trying to prevent that. I didn't know I agree 100% with what Leon is saying but if it's in the Constitution then maybe he's just reluctantly doing this because it goes against his philosophical grain. But at the same time he's responsible for the safety of the citizens of Florida. And he's within his rights. If he is then maybe you and I both would do the same thing if we were in his position. Quite frankly, I would. I mean if I have the backing of the Constitution even though philosophically I disagree with what he did but if we have the backing of the Florida Constitution I would do it. I would do it. If I had the backing of the Constitution all of these George Soros, the district attorneys we have sprinkled all over the country I would get rid of all of them if I could as long as I have some authority to do so. Gotcha. Alright. Fair enough. Well keep in mind too that with DeSantis this isn't the only thing he's done it's sort of a little on the authoritarian conservative side. He's done some things with education like forcing that certain ideas be taught in school and other things. Granted, I'm not complaining if I could swap him with our governor here in California. I'd do it on a heartbeat. So, you know I'd much prefer what he's doing than what as a libertarian. Gavin Newsom, I think you're a terrorist or an extremist for making such a statement Jason, but go ahead. Well, I just wanted to say though there are some things as a libertarian that I think are a little bit concerning about DeSantis, you know pushing certain preferences that just happen to be on the conservative side on people. But I mean, he largely is responding to just insanity I mean, that's just Well, you know, Jason even in that article that you sent off in preparation for this show, I mean the word authoritarian was used in describing DeSantis's actions I can't see how we could even use that word if the man has something that he can point to that gives him the authority to do this I mean it's not that he just dream up something and say get rid of the district attorney he has the authority to do so even though philosophically I disagree with it I can't see the use of the word authoritarian in this context Yeah Well, yeah it's kind of a tough call because if it was some guy who just like literally wasn't showing up to work and he was out vacationing like some of these congressmen educationally here about then yeah, I mean that seems like what the constitution was designed for, you know, they're in Florida to get rid of somebody who's just completely derelict in their duty, but just a different philosophy and therefore they're not doing their job but if that's kind of what the voters voted for it just it does feel a little uneasy like you're kind of maybe, you know, getting it's almost like, you know man, if voters really want this garbage, you almost feel like man, well, maybe they deserve to get it good and hard sadly, we're seeing a lot of that in California where the majority are insane and, you know, we just happen to be hopefully some lonely voices of reasons here trying to break the spell I mean, the stuff we're seeing in some of these cities it's like Walgreens having to close and stuff because the DA's and the police just aren't enforcing anything and some of these are laws that are in place that are just literally saying that hey, they don't have to do anything if it's below $950 and that makes you wonder too because I hear some Democrats talking about well from what we've seen these images where crime may be bad but the numbers just aren't as bad as people are making it out to be, well, if people know that there's not going to be any enforcement is anything even being reported you know, when a guy rolls through a Walgreens and just fills up his bag it's out, is that even reported as a crime? Yeah, who knows? It's not a crime It's not a crime apparently But, you know, the voters in San Francisco the voters rebelled against the Chesa Baudin or whatever the hell her name was and they recall them now they're trying to recall Gascon in Los Angeles which is great, I think voters they elected a person that is where the action should come from in terms of removal from office not from like a governor or anything like that that's my view philosophically but you know the whole point about this thing about the Florida Constitution and the dereliction of duty who decides what exactly is a dereliction of duty? It is true all over the country in the federal government the prosecutors use their discretion in determining what crimes they will charge and what they don't charge and you know they make deals in terms of plead bagging in terms of what they're going to charge someone with and those sort of things I know all of those things happen so who decides what is the dereliction of duty? If a DA if a DA makes a deal with somebody well I'll charge you, I'll charge you if you cooperate with me to get some bigger fish what is the dereliction of duty? So who decides what the dereliction of duty is so that's where the complication begins so when the governor takes action like the governor did in Florida when he takes action even though he's authorized to do so what is the dereliction of duty? Who decides that? The guys might be thinking he's doing his job he might be acting within prosecutorial discretion but the Santos on the other hand may see that what is the dereliction of duty will enforce the law as prescribed by a legislator who knows? Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness always