 In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness, health, and entertainment podcast. The entire world! We answer fitness and health questions that are asked by viewers and listeners, just like you. Now the way we open these episodes is with an introductory portion. This is where we cover current events. We tell stories, we have a lot of fun. It's my favorite part. So if you'd like to be entertained and have fun, tune in to the beginning of this episode. That's 37 minutes long. If you just want the fitness questions fast forward past 37 minutes, that's when we answer the fitness stuff. But let me give you a whole breakdown of the whole episode. So we open up by talking about hair loss. Adam brings up a topic about hair loss. That's weird. Ooh, sensitive. Then we talk about the company Kodak and how they had a wonderful gift from the government to produce pharmaceutical drugs. That's kind of weird. That is weird. Then I talked about my neighbors and how I can spot the Italian ones. Then we talk about the investigation into Apple. I guess it's a big deal with tech right now and the government. That led me to talk about Amazon and how they are inadvertently probably saving a lot of lives right now. Then we talked about the GDP contraction, one of the biggest we've seen since World War II. That's kind of crazy. I talked about protein and the blue zones. Those of you that have been messaging me about that show on Netflix with Zach Efron. I talk about and I address what they said on there about the island of Sardinia and their low protein diet. Then we talked about a show on Netflix called Love on the Spectrum. We talked about how much your body parts are worth on the black market. I bet you didn't know. Your body was worth so much money. Hey, look into it. And then we got into answering the fitness questions. So here's the first one. 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What's that? How handsome are you on a scale of one to 10? No, that's close though. That's second. That's close. I hope it's evolved from Mary F. Kill. I hate that one. You know what I mean? I'm actually starting to get into that one. I like it now. What, it's gone full circle? Well, I put a little thought into it now. Have you seen me answer those ones? No, I haven't. Yeah, I try and put a little bit of like creative thought into it and sometimes they turn out okay. So I don't mind it. I think when it's the same one, you guys, it's lame. Right. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I'm sorry, I mean it. Because we know you're going to marry Doug. Yeah. The stable one. Whatever. I rolled Doug onto the bus yesterday. He has no idea because he was never on Instagram. Oh, that was so good. Yeah, so he doesn't know. I saw how he did to Doug. I saw that. Look at, he's like, oh shit, he's even looked right now. He should go look Doug on my story. No, but when I say, so people always are not always are now all the time asking me, I get at least, I don't know, five or six every time I do that of guys asking me how difficult it was for me to accept going bald. Yeah. And originally, okay, so you laugh, right? So originally I thought they were just kind of jabbing at me and playing with me. So I would kind of like fire back, and I'd be a smart ass with them. These are serious. Yeah, I think they're serious questions. I think a lot of people really struggle with that. And it's just now started dawn on me that a lot of these people were not fucking with me. I thought they were at first. Like I was like, okay, you know, FU dude, you know, that was kind of my response. Throwing a jab at me. Yeah, yeah, but no, I think they were generally asking like, what, you know, how have you dealt with it? And it's okay. I'm like, oh wow, you know, you know, for me, it's like- It was a bit of a process, wasn't it? Not really. I think it was more like, still thinking that I can pull it off, you know? Yeah, I did. That's part of the accepting part. Yeah, well, I still thought, I thought I was still somewhat pulling it off for a while there. I feel like there was like, it was the last year it was like, okay, it's just gonna look, and to be completely honest, like I wanted to shave my head at least a year or two before I started. It was Katrina in my ear all the time, saying, it looks fine the way it is. It looks fine the way it is. And I'm like, no, honey, it's driving me crazy. I can see my scalp. It's thinning like crazy. It's getting worse. No, no, no, it's not like, she liked my hair so much that, and I'm like, I used to shave my head as a kid growing up all the time, playing sports. I liked it. How does she feel about the shaved head now? She likes it now. But it took me, and it was, I remember when I did it, I said, listen, no more, I'm shaving my head. Now you're tall, so, you know, in real life, nobody sees it too much, but was it because you were on camera? Is that what made you go, oh, I could see it more? Yeah. I mean, I told you, I'll never forget the, like probably the one time, if it ever hit me, where I was like, oh God, was when we were, we were in the front studio where those really nice lights are. Yeah. Where it's like super, like right. You can't hide in those lights. Yeah, where Sal looks like he's like super tan all the time. Oh, yeah. And it was like golden up there. Why does that happen, by the way? Why does it make me look so all-lovely gold? You don't look that way right now when I'm looking at you, but when we look at, especially, it's not usually that handsome. Especially the, Oh jeez. Bro, it's true. Wow. No, did you, you see my comment on the, your last video that we did at the Tahoe house, because you were just so tan. I said, this, when Doug over-applies the self-tanner. Because you just look like you have self-tanner on you. It's so, you're so dark. Use the beautify app, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, there was a time when Rachel was recording me, right? I don't know what I was doing. And she was recording me for something. I don't remember what. And I was, I looked down at my phone. And I'm looking down at my phone, the cameras are on me for some whatever. And the lights like just are beaming on my top of my head. And that's when my hair was like longer and grown out and styled. And I, and I, and then she was like, she was like showing me the edit for like whatever. And she's not even paying attention to that. And I, she shows me, I'm like, Oh my God. Why didn't anybody tell me this? Does it look this bad? I mean, obviously the lights make me. Now, did you ever use products like, so I have a friend of mine who use this like, they sprinkle like these, you ever watch those infomercials? Like a spray cans? Yeah, like a spray can. Like remember that? 100% I have that stuff. And does it work? It works magical. What is it? It's like just a powder that goes on there. And it was great for like, if I had a wedding or a video photo, anything like that where I like, cameras and lights would hit on me. And that's just it was that spraying a little turf on there. If I would have had that on my head, you wouldn't even notice it because it just kind of, Does it not come off? Yeah, it just blends in. Like if you put your head, if you're sitting on a white couch and you kind of lean back and you have like sprinklers, little flakes. No, once it dries, it doesn't. My buddy was the one who, so my two best friends who go back to childhood with me, both of them are like, they're way more bald than I am, right? So they were they, and they went bald when we were like in our late 20s. And it was my buddy, Justin, who like introduced this powder to me. And remember, I'll never forget, cause he had already been bald for a while. And he sends us this video, and he's got like a full head of hair. And I'm looking at it, and I mean, his wife is like videoing it, like literally six inches from a scalp under light. And we're like, what the fuck? How does this happen? How did this happen, right? And then he like videoed her sprinkling it on his head and it is wild, how good it like pulls it off. So what are they like little fibers that attached to your hair? It's like this really like, you know, and you order like the colors that match your hair. And so it totally, and it like attaches itself to, it works for somebody who has like, like where I was at. You can't do when you're bald. You're just thinning. Yeah, yeah. If you're super bald, then it's like, you know what I'm saying? It looks like someone painted something on your head or whatever. It doesn't work. But it works better than anything that I've seen, like it's like, I tried all the shampoos and all that bullshit. And that always would grow like this peach fuzz. Like monoxidil? Yeah. That's what the actual chemical that's in like Boswell and shit like that. Did you guys know what monoxidil was invented for originally? It was for, I believe blood pressure. Oh, I think so. Like killing rats or something. No, no, no. The byproduct was grown here. Yeah. No, this is also how Viagra became hit the market. Yeah, Viagra was for something else. They were both drugs that were investigate or created for different things. And then they didn't work super. How excited are you if you're a scientist and that just happens? You're like, oh shit. Bro, that's what happened with Viagra. So Viagra is a vasodilator, right? It blocks the enzyme that degrades nitric oxide. So when you have more nitric oxide, your blood vessels open up. And so you should have lower blood pressure. So they test out Viagra as a blood pressure lower and it was okay. It wasn't like it didn't really do a super great job. It kind of worked a little bit, whatever. But when they kept asking people side effects, they were all like, well, I mean, one of the side effects I noticed is I get, you know, raging erection, you know? And so imagine you're the company. This is hard to walk. Oh, it's beautiful, right? So the scientists doing the study are like, you know, writing the report and they're like, ah, you know, it doesn't work. Here's your report, it doesn't work. Now here's the marketers from the company. They're reading it and they're like, wait a minute, look at the side effect. Everybody's getting a boner. We hit the goldmine, you know? It's not really working, but man, I'm excited, you know? Imagine being a part of that meeting. That may be the most epic meeting ever. I think that's, it isn't an interesting because I guarantee they read it and they're like, oh man, the study came back. It kind of lowers blood pressure, whatever. And then one of them was like, hold on a second, everybody calm down. Look at the side effects. And one's like, oh, hard on. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Johnson is tinted out right now. Same thing with Minoxidil. Minoxidil, the side effect was people were growing hair. They didn't sell it for that anymore. It was all about growing hair. That's hilarious. Isn't that funny? Back to my stories, I always get people like asking to random names of people that are either in our space or whatever, like, what do you think of this person? And would you guys have this for that? And I'm like, I don't know who the hell these people are. So I normally have like some people. And they're always weird names. Yeah, they are. They're like, I don't know who that is. What do you think about like? It's not weird. It's like, there's all these other people. I've never even heard of them. Like it's such a bigger pool than I even thought. I'm always getting messages that are like, you should interview like, you know, tractor tire beast mode, you know, or whatever it name is on it. Tractor tire beast mode? And I'll be like, why? Anyway. Yeah, so somebody says the name Kodak and right. So they say like, what do you think of Kodak? And that's, cause that's normally how they present it when it's a person, right? So I'm assuming they're talking about some Instagram person. And it does sound like some meat head on Instagram. Totally. Right. So I just, I go, I mean, there's even a supplement line. I think it's named after that. Finishers, my name is Kodak. Kodak is the name, by the way. Oh, is that what it is? It's a grizz. It's like a grizzly bear. So I'm like, so, you know, when I do these, they're fast. I don't put a lot of thought into them. It's just like, what pops in my head right away? I just say something back. Sometimes it's a smart ass comment. Well, so Kodak comes up. And so the first thing that I think of is the old film company that went bankrupt back in 2012. You know, and I say sell the stock. It's, you know, the company went bankrupt years ago. Wow. And so. And you didn't know? I didn't know. So I have no idea. I just, whatever. And then like, later on that night, I was actually talking to some investor guy and we were talking about what's going on with the economy, out of this and that. And I think you shared an article, Sal, and it was on Kodak. And I'm like, wait a second. I thought Kodak's out of business. Like click on it. And it's like, the stock is like 3,000 percent. Sorry. And I said, sell it. And they were asking you about Kodak. Yeah, they were asking me about the stock. I had no idea, which is funny. This is why you shouldn't ask me stock advice. I don't try to pretend like I am a stock guy at all. What a great example of something that I hate more than anything, crony capitalism. You guys know what happened with Kodak, right? 100%. Dude, this was a dying, dead company. If somebody were to investigate, I guarantee that Trump or somebody in his administration is connected to it, brother's friend or somebody. And then they're going to spin it and be like, American jobs, here's what happened. Kodak got a huge loan from the government for dirt cheap to produce. Ready for this? Generic pharmaceutical drugs. Yeah, you're an ex-film company. I have nothing to do with the brother. I have no idea. That filed bankruptcy, that then got into the chemicals. Are there something like that? If I read that correctly, so they filed 2012 bankruptcy, then they come back as some chemical producing company. I don't even know what it was. I don't know that. Didn't even know they were alive still. I thought after they went bankrupt, they were dead. Dude, the stock went from two to 36 bucks or something like that, right away. So whoever owned that, I would have never bought it, right? Kodak, what are you, crazy? Exploded, but think about it politically, right? It's one of the old American companies, right? Oh, we're bringing it back. Name brand, kind of thing, yeah. What the hell do they have to do with pharmaceutical drugs? Yeah, that's weird. You know, I was thinking too about like having gray hair going back to your bald thing. Like for me, I was dealing with that. Even when I was in probably high school, I was starting to see signs of like, little bits of like gray sparse here and there and I would like dye it and stuff to go through that. When so, Sal, you're rocking the grays. I'm rocking the grays. Everybody's always surprised how silver, you know, the locks of hairs are, you know, these days. And I'm just like, I'm rocking it now. Like no, no dye, no nothing. Like I just had to own it. Yeah, I've gotten compliments on having gray hair, but I got mine early. I was 18, 19, I started seeing mine. Now here's the thing in my family, going bald runs in the family. It does. People just go bald. Your brother's thinning, right? Brother's totally thinning, you know, cousins totally thinning. You know, my grand, my dad's dad bald. Now my mom's dad, not so much. His hair is totally white. He's much older. He's late 80s, but most people lose their hair. So when I was in my 20s, I want to say mid 20s. Now I always had insanely silly 1970 style, thick, ridiculous hair. You couldn't do anything with it. You had a hair helmet. It was silly. Like if I, when I woke up in the morning, I could feel it move and I'd take steps, you know? And I'd have to add a lot of, you know, LA looks gel. Remember that? Moose, moose, a lot of moose. I used Murray's. It was like this like really like crazy pomade that was just basically just like super grease just. Oh dude, I would go, I would go LA looks gel first. Then I would, I would get a blow dryer to dry the gel. So I kind of bake it in and then I'd use Aquanet. Oh my God. You couldn't helmet head. Bro, you couldn't, you couldn't do anything. If you push, if you took a strand of hair and like max headroom, you twisted it too hard, it would just break in your hand. That's how, that's how solid it was. But anyway, I had so much hair. And I noticed in my late 20s that it just, it was easier to comb. And then I'm like, wait a minute. Is it starting to come out? Like am I losing a little bit? So I've been shampooing with shampoos that have salt palmetto in them since then. I think that's why I haven't lost my hair. You think so? I'm sort of maintaining it. I do think that's why. Now, did you, now was it, did you guys have a hard time with it since it happened? Cause I wonder, like when people were asking, I was thinking about this last night when people asked me about this whole ball thing, I thought, well, you know what, maybe, maybe if it really hit me in my 20s, maybe it would bother me. Like I think we're on that. More sensitive, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like where am I? I don't give a shit. I got my wife and kid. She's already locked in. Yeah, she's already committed. You know what I'm saying? Like you ain't going nowhere. I'm on that. Yeah, so it's like. Plus, I feel like the less hair you have, so long as the money goes up at the same time that you earn, it doesn't matter, right? Yeah, my stock is still averaging out higher. Yeah, no hair, a lot of money. Nobody gives a shit. You don't want to be in your early 20s, no money. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So maybe, so I think like, maybe that's why I don't feel like it was such a big deal for me, but I didn't go through that. Like maybe you guys were going through that with grades really early. Did you battle a little bit in security with it? I never cared. And I did diet here and there for fun, but I really didn't care. And part of it was, remember, I was 19 and early 20s when I was managing gyms, and then I owned my own. And I don't think there's anything. By the way, I don't think there's anything wrong with the, like some people might look at that and go like, oh, you died it because you're insecure, but it's like, no, I mean, if you can't, we have tools to diet. People dye their hair all the time. It's pretty easy fix. Yeah, it's a very easy fix. Like I don't see anything wrong with that. I actually liked it because, because I was so young and because I would manage these big gyms. It made you look older and mature. Right. And so people would always guess that I was in my 30s when I was in my early 20s. I remember. Well, I used to get teased and made fun every now and then. And it would like, you know, roll off me. But then sometimes like, I was just like, you know, I'm just tired. Like I would like dye it black. Just, you know, just to be like punk rock. You would dye your hair black? Yeah. Wow. What about your eyebrows? Cause those are pretty, pretty light brown. Yeah. No, I left those as is. So the drapes and the carpets were. Definitely didn't match. Totally off or whatever. Yeah. Dude, I got a, I got a theory. I want to ask you guys what you guys think about this. I don't know if this is true everywhere, but it's definitely true in California so far. So when you see a house in a regular suburban neighborhood in San Jose and they have a big water fountain outside their house, it's probably either an Italian or Greek family. That wasn't a house. I've just noticed it every single time. I don't know why. I know Italians love putting fountains in there. So whenever I see a fountain in the house out of nowhere, like if there's no houses in the whole neighborhood with the fountain, this house has a fountain, especially if the driveway is also paved with some kind of like stone. It seems a little Mediterranean vibe. Always dude. Always. And so I saw there's this house I walk by all the time when I go, there's this loop that Jessica and I do in our neighborhood and this guy's got this big fountain and he's got like this paved driveway and whatever. And I'm always like thinking like, I bet you that's a, it's gotta be in a time. Anyway, this morning walking by, he's got a big Italian flag outside of his house with an American flag inside. I knew it. I called it. I knew it. You guys always do this stuff. Did you guys, did either one of you guys catch the, was it last night or yesterday, the day before yesterday was the, they had all the big tech companies. They were anti-trust hearing. Did you see that dug at all? Yeah, I saw that. Did you watch it? I didn't really watch it now. What were the, what were they talking about? A lot of stuff that we've already brought up. So remember when we had the big debate recently with Amazon, right? So that was on there, 100%. That's what they are getting in trouble for. Google was on there. Google was in trouble for what, 41% of their traffic reverting back to their own site. Google right back and point back to their Google related products. And yeah, so it was just like a lot of like echo chamber. Like we're just going to like drive you right back to offerings that we're promoting. So, and this is, it gets back to kind of what we were having our, our debate back and forth on like, you know, is this fair play or is it not? And here's another one. How about Apple? Did you see Apple's? No. It's something that, you know, I used to joke like it's conspiracy theory, but like, you know, there's always a little truth right in that. And I, when we saw this article, I was like, I sent it right away to my buddies. I was like, dude, we've been saying this forever. And I know you guys are going to test this. How often do you, if you, you've all had iPhones for probably since generation one or two, right? Every time the new iPhone comes out, all of a sudden, my iPhone fucking bogs down. And it's a, dude, they're getting, they're being investigated for that. Good. And there is, there's proof to show that they, they slow down the network and shit and, and slow down. Sabotage. Your old iPhone when the new releases come out. See now, if a company. That's hella shady. Yes. If a company is lying to you or purposely misleading you, then yes, the court's definitely getting involved and those companies need to get out. Cause what's the motivation to keep upgrading your phone? Right. If it works perfectly good. Now like Google, let's go back to Google. If Google, cause Google makes a lot of money by having companies spend advertising with them, right? So Google ad words or whatever. If Google is not disclosing to these companies that they redirect a lot of traffic to their stuff, I could see that being a problem. But if it's, if otherwise, of course they're gonna do that. Well, think of it like in our situation, right? So Google is, is very important to us, right? We, we have articles and blogs and pillar pages that rank on Google. We put a lot of time, effort, money into making sure that we, you know, own a topic. And that puts, what's a lot of effort, manpower, money for us to do that. Imagine if we built that and let's use the macro nutrient calculator as an example. We spent all this time doing that. We're ranking. And then Google just like leapfrogs us to drive to like a very, their own macro. Right. Google macro calculator. And now they're monetizing off of that. Like, is that fair or is it not fair? Okay. From our standpoint, I would say it's fine. It's, they can do kind of whatever they want. You know why they're all being investigated. This is what my opinion, I think they're all being investigated because there's evidence to show that they are playing favorites with political parties. And so whenever that happens, then the politicians flex their muscle, bring you before Congress and then they start applying pressure. I think that's what the reason is. Wow, interesting theory. I would 100% because one political party in particular feels like the tech is censoring their stuff and not showing them as much. They're kind of posing as a front that they're a utility, you know, like back to that whole thing that they're not like editing and, you know, shadow banning and like, you know, not giving everybody the same like equal access to their platform. And so once you start doing that, you're acting as a different entity. And so that's, that's misleading. Yeah, it is. Well, they try to ding Facebook for like buying Instagram, which I thought that was kind of, that was silly to me. Like, so they, they haven't, they brought forward an email of Zuckerberg writing to, you know, somebody else on the team saying that they, that Instagram would be a threat to Facebook. And so that it was, they were on a mission to acquire them because it could- That sounds like good business. That's what I think, yeah. I heard that and I go like, see, I don't understand what the big deal with that is. I mean, that's just smart. Dude, I remember back in the day, you know, running gyms and competing with other gyms and the shit that we would do. I mean, it wouldn't fly, I guess, according to them. I mean, do you guys ever do? So I actually did this at one point. I'm not gonna say where, but people who are very familiar with the podcast will know. Used to be part owner of a gym and one of our competitors was a Gold's Gym. And you know, Gold's Gym's a franchise, right? So you're competing with the owner of Gold's, not really the company of Gold's or whatever. And so what did we do? We had a better gym. We had a great news base. And so we would go in there and we would poach their top instructors and offer to pay them more. And I would flyer their parking lot and said, bring in your membership card and we'll give you a free membership for three months and then you'll pay $5 less a month and literally just crush them. Competition-wise, there's nothing wrong with that. Is it aggressive? For sure, but that's the business world, you know? And that was when I was younger. I was a little bit more of an asshole. Speaking of business and stuff, do you guys see the economic report? The GDP. Oh, bad. 32% drop. I mean, we knew this, right? You had to know this was coming. We've never seen anything like this. World War II. The last time we saw a contraction. Now when they compare that, like it's a percentage thing, right? Yeah, because obviously the dollar amount of numbers and money is much higher today than it is then. But I mean, it's expected that this would happen with kind of what's going on. So a huge contraction. The key is gonna be, and then on top of that, add on top of that, what is it, $4 trillion of brand new out of the air money that the government injected? Yeah, from the sky. This is a formula for stagnation. Inflation with low economic output. Prices go up. Nobody's making any money. It's gonna be an interesting... Well, I'm watching the housing market like crazy because I read an article. I don't know if I share this on the podcast or not, but like in 08, they had 1 million foreclosures that hit the market after 08. They are projecting 28 million from this. And I know banks that are just sitting on stacks of papers right now of foreclosures that are people, but they won't release it. So we have this like artificial bubble right now. I was looking at properties just yesterday or day before yesterday and there's bidding wars happening still here. I mean, it blows my mind and we've been on this like aggressive climb for like almost eight years now, seven years plus. It's gotta come down the other direction. I would think that this has gotta be what burst the bubble, but then I also don't know how they're gonna do it. I mean, are the banks gonna trickle it out so it doesn't feel that way? So it keeps it competitive still, which they kind of did that in 08 where it's like they're not gonna release all 28 million at once. Think about it this way. It was explaining me like this a long time ago with economics. It's like a volcano and there's a lot of pressure. And so what you can do is you can try to reinforce the top of the volcano, but more pressure ends up building. And then you try and reinforce the top and more pressure ends up building. Eventually, when it erupts, the more that you've patched it up and tried to prevent things from happening, kicking the can down the road, the bigger the- More explosive it is. The bigger the correction. So what we may experience is a pretty nasty, sharp, correction that happens. Now, there's a flip side to that, which is technology has never been as amazing as it is now and technology has really softened a lot of the problems. Like I was thinking about this this morning on my walk, like Amazon, for example. Amazon is crushing, obviously, because people are shopping from home. But have people considered how many lives Amazon is probably saving right now? Think about it this way. We know that there's a pandemic that's out there. There's this virus that's out there. For some people, it can be very deadly for other people, maybe not so much. But we do know that if you're around a lot of people and if there's a lot of people around a lot of people, the virus will spread. We know this, right? So people are trying to distance themselves. Well, Amazon has really enabled a lot of people to distance themselves. You can buy almost anything through Amazon and it could deliver to your door at cheap, low prices and you can get a myriad of different products. One of the side effects of that may be that we reduced a large number of infections. Well, you can also look at it that there's a ton of businesses that are still operating and very profitable because of them too. Right, because how would they be able to deliver their products if everybody had to close their stores? Right. Amazon is that generates 60% to 70% of their revenue through Amazon and they're able to do that from home still. They don't require being into a brick and mortar. So if it wasn't for that, they would also be in dire straits. I mean, think about that for a second, right? Amazon has used so much and so many people do so much shopping and now more people are doing more shopping, which means they're exposing themselves and other people less than they would. If this happened 30 years ago, or we would have to go to the store to get everything, you'd have to go to the store, it'd be very difficult. Back then ordering through mail meant you got a catalog, you ordered it, you waited three weeks and Amazon has made that totally, totally different, right? You buy something that's there in a day or two, you can buy almost anything on there. So Amazon may in fact be contributing to a pretty significant decrease in potential infections just through them conducting business. It's kind of amazing. A random question on that, Doug, maybe you listen, how many total employees is Amazon half? I have no idea. I'll look it up here. Yeah, I'm curious how many people are there. It's a bajillion. Yeah, I don't know. What was the number you gave me the other day I should use instead? What's the real? Oh my God, I'll have to look that up. Something deca million, I don't know. No, you gave me like a real. No, it was real. I mean, I like bajillion because it's mine, right? 840,000 employees. Here you go, Adam, it's this, what was this called? Dog bite victim, blah, blah, blah. Undecillion dollars. Undecillion? Undecillion. You know what that sounds like? That sounds like you haven't decided how much money. I know, right? How much money do you want to pay for this? Yeah. There's so many zeros on it, it's just like it's absurd. It's an undecillion. I'll let you know tomorrow. Undecillion. Let me know. No problem. Hey, so I've been getting, have you guys watched the series on Netflix with Zach Efron? No, no. Have you seen it? I was not pulled in that direction. Okay, you haven't seen it, like it's one of the top, you know how they show like top in America, I watched right now. Oh, you know what I think it did see? It's a, what's he? He goes around, I looked at like another one of those goop kind of things, pieces, what was it? I haven't watched it, okay. I haven't watched it, but I'm getting messages about a particular episode that was on there, but I haven't watched, I have no interest in it. He's a handsome guy. Not gonna lie, strikingly handsome gentleman. I'd say probably one of the more handsome gentlemen. Is that why you're bringing it up? No. Yeah, that's it. That's it, that's it. Moving on. But anyway. Whoa. Yeah, anyway, so I guess there's an episode where he goes to the island of Sardania. Sardania is an island off the coast of Italy. Which is also a blue zone. It's, yeah, it's one of the blue zones of the world where a disproportionate amount of the population lives to a hundred or more. In fact, I think they have the longest living men in the world. I think when you combine men and women, I'm not sure if they're number one, but they're definitely up there. Now I haven't watched the episode, okay? This is just based off of people messaging me, but they're saying that one of the reasons they're saying that the people there live so long is because they have a low protein diet. So when they look at their- No, they're not using that as a fucking spin right now. Okay, now two things. Number one, do you guys remember way back, like episode 100, when I said that low protein would be the next trend? Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna happen. I guarantee it. Of course, yeah. Guarantee it, they're gonna push it soon. But anyway, so- Even though it's an essential macronutrient. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's not a hard call. Yeah, so, oh yeah, there it is, down to earth with that. Look at that, look at those eyes. Wow. It's a handsome guy. Gorgeous, gorgeous. Thank you. Yeah, it's not very tall though. I heard he's not very tall. They never are. It ruins it for me. Sorry, Justin. It ruins it for me. Your fantasies are off. I know. So anyway, you know, they say that it has to do, part of the reason, I guess, has to do with the fact that they have a low protein diet. Now, here's the thing. Studies will show that in a pro-inflammatory, pro-cancer state, proteins can drive cancers, or they can drive certain illnesses. By the way, so can certain fats, and so can carbohydrates, okay? So we need to understand context. Also understand this with the Sardinian lifestyle. That is one of a lot of factors that determine how long they live. The people in Sardinia live a life of eating whole natural foods. They're active on a very daily basis. Community. They get lots of sunlight. Very, very tight community. They don't overeat. That's a big one. Isn't there a Pacific Island somewhere where they have the really high protein in their blue zone? I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with that, but yeah. So there's a huge, you gotta look at the whole context. Here's another one. When people have a low calorie diet, things change on how they affect you. For example, sugar doesn't really have much of a negative effect on you, physiologically speaking, when your calories are low. It's when calories are really high that you start to see this problem. So I just want to address that. By the way, there are lots of other studies that show high protein diets, especially in older populations, improve longevity, and part of that may be through the strengthening process of the muscles, and then of course the side effect of that. So I wanted to address that. Yeah, well Netflix has been having a few series on there that are worth checking out. One of them was the, and of course this might sound like I'm like totally into these relationships, like dating shows and everything, but this one caught my attention because I'm just, like I love, I'm a people watcher. Like I'm very fascinated with behaviors of people, and this was highlighting like people with autism and people on the spectrum and like how, because I mean the biggest problem that they face is a lot of these social interactions and the way they can like relate to people. And so I just found it like super fascinating how they have to get coached properly to have these types of conversations that'll go somewhere with somebody else. And they really want to like find somebody to love them back. And it's like really difficult. Hold on, what's the name of the show? I love on the spectrum. Okay, so this is a show about people with autism who are dating again? Yes, and in the forms of autism like very like substantially. So like they all have their own different ticks, like lots of different like things that they're born with disability wise or like, you know that they're very fixated on a very specific thing that interests them. And so like they can't even have a conversation with somebody if they're not interested in what they're interested in. And it's just like, oh my God, it's really fascinating. And it's so endearing, like you see that like, I don't know, man, it's so innocent like the way that they're trying to interact and like, you know, make it work. And they get so like frustrated. And I don't know, man, it's- Is it a feel good? So they're successful? It is feel good. There's some success, but also there's some failure but you just fall in love with these people because they're so like genuine and there's not like corrupted by, you know all the bullshit that we're all trying to bullshit each other all the time with our interactions. And there's none of that between them. There's no filter. They're just literally trying. No filter, pure honesty. And it's just, it's crazy. Now, do any of them like like each other? Is there, I mean, no spoiler, but- Yeah, there's a few of those that like actually go well, but there's not many. You know, and it's like, oh, you just like kind of hurt you on the inside. I had an old client once that told me, and it's the only reason why I love training people in advanced age. They're very wise. And he told me, find somebody that's weird the same way you are and she'll be able to get along with them wonderfully. In other words, you know, your real self, right? Find someone who's kind of, who's like that and then you'll probably connect. So they have, you know, they have dating apps where people, I don't know why this reminded me of it. They have dating apps where people meet up other people with the same STD. Did you guys know this? Oh, wow. Have you guys heard of these before? No, but it makes sense. Yeah, so you like, yeah, like if you got, you know whatever, you know, whatever your STD is, herpes or whatever. Yeah, God, whatever. I think that's curable. Then you meet someone else with the same STD. Good, good, good, good, good, good. That's crazy. Anyway, hey, did you guys know that your body is worth quite a bit on the market? Wow. Yeah. Now I'm not talking about prostitution. I'm talking about the black market values for various body parts. Really? Yeah, dude. Like a limb? Bro. Or like an organ. One of your kidneys on the, I've always known that. One of your kidneys on the black market is worth over $130,000. Wow. Did you guys know this? Holy moly. Isn't that wild? Your lungs, $272,000. Wasn't that like a big thing, like in Mexico that was going on? Like, I don't know, a few decades ago that was a big deal where they were like putting, they were putting people to sleep and they were stealing their kidneys and shit like that? Oh jeez. Was that just a movie? Oh man, that sounds horrible. Urban legend or whatever. I think it's real. No, it was real, right, Doug? There was a thing like where people were getting kidnapped and then be like put under and then they would take a kidney. Yeah, there's organ trafficking, I think. Yes. Okay, so yeah, I wasn't making that up. Well, it wasn't just a movie. So I mean, I don't look, 99% of all these you can't do without. But kidneys, do you guys think that people who are healthy should be able to, if they want to, sell one of their kidneys to somebody? What do you guys think? I mean, it's your body. I know, I kind of feel like that too, right? But I think they're pretty, I don't know, crazy decision to make. I feel like they're worried that people are gonna like hurt themselves or, I don't know. I mean, I'd look at that more as like if it's family and they're like in a life situation where it's gonna save their life, like that makes sense, but like to sell it seems a little frivolous to me. But it's your own body though. Yeah. It's a billion dollar industry. Wow. Wow. That's a lot. I don't know, I remember that because there used to be some incentive program for, they would tattoo like the bottom of your foot and my brother and I looked at this when we were in college that they could take your body after you were deceased and like use it for scientific purposes. A tattoo? I thought it was just on my driver's license. Well, that's for donating organs, which is something that I'm all for that if you're like, if you're already dead, who gives a shit, right? But this was another thing where like they would use your entire body for like anatomy and physiology and like as a cadaver. Oh, very interesting. But they pay you good money so that they would like lock that in. Have you guys heard of these reports? I'm sure Justin has. Have you heard of these like reports where people will get a body, like an organ from a donor and then they'll start to take on the characteristics of that person? Yeah, or their memories or weird stuff like that. Have you ever read into this? It's really trippy. Have you heard of this? No. It's weird, dude. And like, well, yeah, I don't know if it's like a fact or not. As I say, did you guys find yourself like an animal? Into a conspiracy theory? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. But anyway. That's a big believe to me. You're being good, Adam. Listen, lizard people do this all the time. No, there was a story of a, I don't know if it was a man or a woman that got a heart transplant, okay, from somebody who died in a car accident. So they got the heart that they needed. Then they met somebody through a dating site and they started dating and got married and then found out later, ready for this, the heart that the person got was from the other person's deceased spouse that died in the car accident or something like that. Wow. Like so they married somebody who had the heart of their dad. They found their way back. Yes. That's true, dude. I read that once. That's weird. I read that once. It was in the- Although there's so many damn people that just mathematically it makes sense that it would happen. Look at this. Ready for this? This is Discover Magazine. 15% stated that their personality had indeed changed. Wow, oh. Not because of the donor organ, but because of the life-threatening event. Oh my God. Get this out of the sentence underneath. Yeah, yeah. I'm just changing it. I'm gonna ruin it. Oh, by the way. Not to mention it was 15% too. I was gonna start going into the whole memories being stored in the fascia and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But hey, how funny is that, right? Like, oh no, listen, my dad, ever since he almost died. He's debunked right there. He's a different man. I think it's his liver that he got, you know? Not that he almost died. Like he'd get one from like a psychopath and all of a sudden he just gets raped, you know? Yeah. First question is from Fenton Carey. I have a lot of inflammation after working out. Are there any supplements you recommend for recovery that will help reduce some of the inflammation? Okay, so first I'll answer the question directly, but then let's talk about the main root, like most important ways you can reduce this or help ameliorate this problem. So, okay, direct question. Are there certain supplements that you can take? Yeah, Omega-3 fatty acids, probably things with turmeric might actually help. Organify makes a product called Move that I've actually noticed. Makes a difference with stiffness and inflammation and the ingredients in it are legit. Obviously it's a company we work with so we really believe in them. And I've had clients, not clients, excuse me, listeners tell me that they've used the Move and after about two to four weeks of using it, they notice pretty significant improvements. But let's talk more now about the root cause of inflammation and why we need to deal with that first. Supplements, you know, some supplements can help and especially the ones that like Organify's Move, they help by giving you a more healthy inflammatory process. But we gotta go back a little deeper and look at why you may be feeling more inflammation. The first culprit would be that your workout is probably inappropriate for your body. You're not moving well. You're not priming your body properly. You can, if you do proper priming and you work out appropriately, you should not feel more inflamed right after your workout. Your joints should not hurt after your workout. You should feel better than you did going into the workouts. That's always enough. I also wanna know, you know, the nutrition and the diet that you're bringing into these workouts and what that looks like on a consistent basis. But, you know, there's also the point too that a bit, like how much of the inflammation is it? Because like some of it is necessary in order to signal to the body that you need to adapt and change. So we don't wanna completely eliminate, you know, the inflammation after the workouts. But if it's an excess and it feels like, you know, it's really affecting your joints and stiffness. Yes, that's a problem. We need to address that. The other people to address too is your advanced lifter who's training intensely a lot. The most inflammation that I ever battled, even more so having a poor diet or whatever was, when I was competing, when I was competing, I was always pushing the threshold. I was always, you know, overreaching because I was trying to, you know, take my body to the next level. So I flirted with that, you know, too much intensity, too much load, you know, not enough days off, not enough mobility and the joints and inflammation were the worst at that period of time for me than ever. So, you know, if you're also somebody who's a, you know, maybe you diet well, you eat really good and clean, but you train really hard five, seven days a week and you don't give your body adequate rest and you're not doing like mobility or you're constantly hammering and you're not kind of phasing out of types of routines that can happen a lot too. Like I see this common with clients that love to lift heavy. They love to train, you know, super, super heavy weight and then they get just, they're overstressing their joints, they can cause inflammation in the body. So things like that to watch out for, not just diet too. Yeah, now I want to touch on what Justin was saying about, you know, trying to block inflammation all the time. Not a good idea. So if we look at like drugs, over-the-counter drugs, NSAIDs, non-steroidal anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen, naproxen, those do block inflammation quite effectively. Now the problem with that is inflammation is also an important signaler in the body. It tells the body to build, it tells the body to repair. And so we do have studies that show that it lowers the muscle building signal and over time people who have joint issues who take these products every time they train, we actually start to see their joints get much worse over time because the inflammatory process lets the body know we need to strengthen, rebuild and repair this area. Not to mention the signal that inflammation sends you which is, hey, don't move this way. So if I got bad knees and I'm numbing myself with non-steroidal anti-inflammatories, that will allow me to continue to move in the way that's causing inflammation. That's gonna cause problems over time. So you should pay attention to these things. Now dietary speaking, if your fatty acid profile is off for some people that causes problems, meaning you have too many omega-6s, not enough omega-3s in your diet, a high sugar diet for some people in my experience can cause inflammation. For me, a diet that's very high in grains over time can definitely cause inflammation. So when I bring that down and have more fruits, vegetables and fats and proteins, I notice way less inflammation. When I eat a ketogenic diet, now I'm not saying ketogenic diet's the best for performance or muscle building. I think it's not the best for those. In fact, I think it's one of the worst ones for that. But in terms of inflammation, one of the weird side effects of eating ketogenic is I just don't get sore. It's really strange. In fact, when I reintroduce carbohydrates, I start to get more sore. So if you're battling this really bad chronic inflammation and your diet's high in grains and carbohydrates, you can even mess around and see how you feel on a healthy ketogenic type diet and see if that solves that particular issue. But for most people listening, you're just not working out appropriately, probably. And you're probably not priming your body properly. That's usually the reasons why the average person is just too stiff or inflamed after a workout. Next question is from Ashley Berg 97. How important are carbs post-workout for muscle growth? You know, it's funny. This is the result of very effective advertising and marketing. Yeah, so supplement companies which drive the fitness industry, especially the performance industry, is driven by supplement companies. They're the ones that bring in the money. And so then they drive the content. What kind of content is going to reinforce our products or the value in our products? And one of the best ways to sell a product, any marketer will tell you is to attach it to a ritual. If you can attach a product to a ritual, people are more likely to use it on a regular basis. So for a long time, supplement companies have been advertising protein powders to fitness consumers. Maybe a little less carbohydrate supplements. That's been advertised to us as well, but not nearly as much as protein. And I understand why a high protein diet is effective for building muscle, recovery, that kind of stuff. Carbohydrates might benefit somebody who's an endurance athlete, needs more stamina. Maybe they're not eating enough calories. But the problem that these supplement companies ran into was people would buy a jug of protein and it would sit in their cabinet. And I knew lots of people like this in the early and mid-90s when I was a kid. Almost everybody that had ever worked out, ever had a jug of protein powder that was expired because nobody ever took it. So how did supplement companies get people to buy protein and then take it while they came up with this whole take it right after your workout and it builds more muscle and speeds up your recovery. And they would use studies to reinforce this. Studies show that you replenish glycogen, which is a type of energy your muscles use, faster when they would eat carbohydrates post workout. And then if you combine that with protein, you recover faster. Now it is true that you replenish glycogen faster when you have carbohydrates right after your workout. But if you have carbohydrates later, you replenish it just the same. In other words, it doesn't make a difference. Now here's where it does make a difference. Do you plan on working out again a couple hours later? In which case, then it's a good idea. I know Justin, you played football for a long time. This was probably important for someone like you when you would have double days. Oh, absolutely essential. Yeah, I had to get that energy in. Carbohydrates played a massive role in that too. And this is also where we get into talking about ice and stuff like that and the benefits of that like after I would do like a practice like that, knowing full ahead of time that I was gonna have to then come back and practice again and like pound on my body again. So it made sense for me to ice and go in an ice bath to then get the inflammation levels down again so that I could perform again at a higher level. And you would eat like a carb and protein meal. And I would eat a carb, definitely a heavy carb meal like in between. This is the only time that I use it was when I was competing and I knew I was going back to the gym later on. Other than that, your splitting hairs. I mean, as if you are, and if you're trapped and where it really matters is if you're tracking and you're paying attention to your calorie intake and for sure protein in this case making sure you're getting adequate protein and you're eating in a surplus of calories and you're stimulating the body correctly. So you have good programming, you're training well. Those are the main things. So as long as your daily targets are getting hit the timing of it before after workout that stuff is really splitting hairs and even at the highest level of competing and sculpting and shaping the body I did not worry about none of that shit. The only time that I would make an effort is when I knew. I knew that I was scaling up right before show and that this is where I'm starting to head back to the gym to sometimes even three times to do like other work then I would make sure that I'm being fed and then before I go back into the gym again. Yeah. And now here's some of the unintended consequences of this message that's been hammered to athletes and to fitness enthusiasts. People who have a tendency towards gut issues this is a terrible time to eat because post workout your inflammation is higher and when you eat a really fast digesting protein or carbohydrate shake right after your workout and you're inflamed and your gut is inflamed you're more likely to develop a food intolerance because when your gut is inflamed that's when things can pass through the gut when they're not supposed to. So again, it's not that big of a deal if you plan on working out again later than you should. I do have one more scenario where I did use this and it just came to mind when we were talking about that. So when I was trying to bulk and I had a hard time getting calories in I found that as an opportunity like as soon as I got done working out I was hungry and so I would feed myself something that was four or 500 calories carb heavy and I would find that I would be hungry still again an hour or two hours later. So it helped me stay on top but the reason for that wasn't for the studies that support the benefits of eating right after the workout the reason for that for me was I could get a meal in right after I get to work out and then I knew that by the time I got home and I took a shower and I was ready to eat another meal which it was all about hitting my calorie target. So I do see strategies to eating right after a workout when you're completely depleted and you're hungry already and you're somebody who has a hard time getting enough calories but it's really less about the timing of it after the workout and it's more about you making sure you hit your total calorie intake for the day. The next question is from Mama Penguin. What are the pros and cons of the touch and go deadlift versus the reset deadlift? I like this question right now. So I have two close friends of mine that I'm teaching how to deadlift virtually which is really fucking hard to do by the way. Oh yeah. And they're both experienced lifters but they never really, both female clients and they've lifted for a very long time but never really got into deadlifting and they're fans of the show and they're like, I wanna get better at it. So I have them send me videos and I make cues and critiques and one of the things that everybody kind of just has a natural tendency to do is the touch and go method which is a normal cadence or tempo of a movement like anything else. But I love to teach the reset completely and do like, so if you're doing five to eight reps doesn't matter how many reps is you lift it or you get in position and get everything tight, tense you lift one time, you set down completely reset even sometimes I'll have the client step away from the bar then step back up to it. And really what we're doing is we're just, we're practicing. It's like a baseball player who's getting ready to go up to the mound, right? And he's getting ready to hit that almost every professional baseball player you'll see before he goes to swing the bat has this weird ritual. Some of them straighten their wristband, they touch their hat, they hit their bat three times. They hit their feet and knocked the dirt off. Yeah, and if you don't understand the importance of that you might think it's kind of silly but there's, you're training the brain to get into this perfect form and mechanics and it's a ritual. And so I like to reset every deadlift to reset that ritual. So it trains the body to be in that perfect position versus getting under it and you just start to get in this touch and go where what I see happens with touch and go is the breakdown of form. So that to me that's, this is the pros of doing single and almost anybody that I'm teaching deadlifts this is how I want you to lift. I never like touch and go unless you're a very advanced lifter. If you're an advanced lifter you've got great mechanics for deadlifting nothing wrong with doing a touch and go but that is the only person who I am recommending that to. Yeah, touch and go is can give you a little bit more explosive power with the deadlift. You can get out more repetitions typically. Here's the challenge with it. Maintaining really good form. Deadlifts are very technical and it's one of those exercises that's very safe but if your form breaks down a little bit it starts to become risky very quickly. Not all extra. It can get away from you. Yeah, not all exercises are like this. Some exercises you can get real loose and your risk factor is not that high. Deadlifts aren't like that. Your form starts to go off it starts to become very risky. Now here's why, one of the other reasons why it's difficult with touch and go. Touch and go is hitting the floor. There's almost no other exercise that does that. Like if I go up and down with the squat I'm not banging the weights on the squat rack. I'm going down to the bottom. It's my body that stops the weight and then I go all the way up. When you're doing touch and go it's the floor that stops the body. You bring down the weight, you're banging it. This really can mess up people's form. So yeah, if you're advanced you've got really, really good stable body and I never, I do touch and go sometimes. I never do touch and go with a weight that's heavy. It's always one that's not heavy that's a little bit challenging but not super challenging. If I'm gonna do like stop, pause, deadlift like a normal way, I might go 415, 455 maybe even 500 if I'm real strong. Touch and go, I rarely go above 315. For me 315 is not heavy and I know I can stay tight, tap the floor and come up. Yeah, I like to, I actually like touch and goes where I like to add bands over and go through some of those like explosive reps and do that but definitely with light weight. I mean, it definitely like you get the momentum from it by hitting the ground. And so this is like something to consider definitely is gonna affect, you know your form in performing this. So I'm totally with you guys. It's one of those things that I don't have like your average person do like you definitely have to be pretty versed in the lift itself to be able to adjust based off of all these different factors you're gonna get hit with. Cause, you know, when the weight hits the ground it's gonna shift your weight left to right. There's gonna be instances where your body's gonna need to react to that and be able to stabilize properly. So if you don't have that established ahead of time it could be detrimental. I really feel like this wasn't even a thing until CrossFit. I know, I think of that too. I don't remember anybody really doing touch and go deadlifts before CrossFit. You have the same thing with cleans which drives me crazy watching people do cleans back to back to back to back. Bodybuilders, bodybuilders, if when they deadlift, which is very often they would do a touch and go because it's more of a Really? Yeah, you know, like pump and squeeze the back and, you know, typical bodybuilding fashion but it wasn't very popular. I don't know very many bodybuilders that would deadlift in their routine but the ones that did oftentimes they would do this touch and go where they're kind of squeezing the last. They can't picture one of them doing it. I know Ronnie Coleman did some touch and go. Of course, great example of the risk. Obviously the dudes, you know, not like he used to be. There were other bodybuilders. I can't think off the top of my head. Some of their names. Okay, so Ronnie Coleman, have you ever seen, his touch and go is not like the touch and go I'm thinking about right now. His touch and go look like a very smooth. Okay, so his, what video is that? I'm trying to think of his, one of his videos. What do you think when he was pulling 800 pounds? Yes, yeah, and he would do his touch and go leading up to that big 800 set and it's not bouncing off the floor. I mean, he's lifting 600 pounds controlled for three to five reps. When you do a touch and go, don't bounce the weight off the floor. Touch it and come up and be careful because if one side touches before the other one, you're gonna get a little bit of a shift and that's when problems happen. And that's why I bring that up because when I think of touch and go, someone queuing that, this is a touch and go deadlift, like they bounce. And that's what you see a lot with crossfitters. It's really, really common to see him bouncing it off the floor. Well, they bastardize all kinds of exercises. Thanks, CrossFit. Next question is from DVXZXX. Sounds like a porn deal. Yeah, weird. What are your guys thoughts on refeeds when dieting? I heard you talk about a study when suddenly eating more calories after or during a deficit can lead to more fat cells, but there's also research to show that refeeds help prevent metabolic adaptation, such as a slower metabolism. Okay, there's a big difference there. Yeah, they're confusing two things. Yeah, you're confusing two things here. When you do a refeed, you've been in a caloric deficit for some time, whether that be three days or weeks. So the refeed is barely even gonna put you over a cert plus. It doesn't necessarily, I mean, it's all gonna be stored as body fat either, especially if you're training with that. Hopefully a lot of that gets partitioned over the belly muscle and you do get the benefits of it kicking back the metabolism. 100% on for refeeds. Literally hope, just mentioned the two clients, friends that I'm helping. One of them I'm actually helping more with diet stuff and she's been in a calorie type of a deficit even though I cycle her. So she's been a calorie deficit for about six weeks, but not a consistent one. Every fourth day, she gets a refeed. So every fourth day, I put her a little bit above a maintenance, but overall in six weeks, she's been in a pretty much a deficit and I've noticed progress in the last week and a half, two weeks to stall on her. And so this whole week, I have her at a little bit of above even maintenance. So she's gonna be, so those are all types of refeeds. So absolutely, if you stay in a caloric deficit for too long, the body just adapts to that. It adapts and this becomes your new caloric maintenance and by doing a refeed or giving yourself a caloric surplus, it then spikes that metabolism back up and tells your body to get used to having more food. Yeah, they're confusing binging and a refeed. Two completely different things. Okay, so let's address the more fat cells comments. So there's studies that show that when people eat really, really low calories for a while and then they go off the rails and eat like crazy. Competitors are notorious for this. Competitors, typically you see this. What the body will do is it actually, not only does it make your fat cells get bigger because you're eating more calories, but it actually adds fat cells to your body because it's trying to figure out a way to capture all this new energy calories that are coming into the body. Now they're totally different than a refeed. Now the other studies show that with increasing calories, not a binge, but an increasing calories, periodically throughout a diet, people burn more body fat and preserve more muscle. I've been recommending that for forever, for a very, very long time. Rather than having you at a deficit all the time, we have you at a deficit sometimes, and then we have you at short periods where you eat more calories or maybe even a little bit of a surplus. Completely different strategy. And what that does, keeps the metabolism up, prevents muscle loss, and we don't see the huge metabolic adaptation in a downward fashion that we tend to see when people are just in low calories all the time. But yeah, binging, very different. And I've seen this many times, especially with competitors where they go so strict with their diet and so starving themselves and they walk on stage at 3% body fat and then go through the process of gaining 30 pounds in a month or less. This is just like we just picked on CrossFit for bastardizing exercise. This is an example where bodybuilding is bastardized refeeding. Refeeding is a very smart strategy for people that we use with clients and have for a very long time, but the bodybuilding community has bastardized it by turning it in by excusing binging. Yeah, like I have a cheat day and then it's like, you know, 7,000 counts of it is insane. Right, or you're somebody who at stage and you're at 3% body fat, so you technically can get away with binging for fucking five days and not get fat. I mean, you're gonna put on body fat and you're gonna for sure and do exactly what Sal's saying, adding fat cells, but you're gonna take someone from 3% to 7% who's still leaner than 95% of the population so they get away with it. So same thing with the analogy that Justin was giving with the crossfitters, bastardizing the deadlifts, that's what we've done with something that's a very smart, good strategy with refeed, or like we call like mini cuts and mini bulks, I think is very, very smart, but then it's been turned into this thing that excuses people to go from a super low calorie deficit to all of a sudden binge eating afterwards, and that's not a real true refeed. A real true refeed is exactly what I was explaining with the girl that I'm helping right now. It's like, you know, I'm taking her calories from, you know, low for her is 1600 calories. Her maintenance is probably around 1800. A refeed or a bulk is 21, 2200. I mean, that's a refeed right there. I don't need to take her to 3500 calories for three, four, or even a week, you know, that's ridiculous. That's now borderline binging. Yeah, what's interesting too is, you know, when you look at competitors who compete like bodybuilding physique, and then year after year after year, you find them having more and more challenge coming in as sharp as they did before or as lean as they did before. I think this is the why. I think it's- I 100% think this is why. I think it's because after their shows, they binge so hard that they actually add fat cells to their body. And so over time, after three, four, five years of competing, it's harder and harder and harder for them to come in as shredded as they did before. It's a wonderful way of making, getting lean, way more difficult is to do this, you know, super low calorie binge kind of cycle and model. That is a perfect example, Sal. If you are, this is a great, this is a great point. I've been talking about something like this in a long time. I saw this firsthand and if you are a competitor and every show you do, you have to do significantly more either cardio-wise or calorie reduction, you are probably falling in this category. That's why it's so difficult. If you did a good job of between shows, adding more lean mass, adding more muscle, it should be easier. It should be better. You should be able to get away with more calories and yet still lean down because you've built more muscle on the body. So if you're a competitor and you've noticed you've done three, four or five shows and every show it's getting harder and harder to lean down and you're having to do longer bouts of cardio or restrict even lower calories, there's something wrong with your nutrition programming that you need to address. And this is normally what it is. Yeah, you know, it's interesting about this there's only a few, there's a few times that we know that the body adds fat cells, one of them is like puberty, third trimester of pregnancy is another one and this one, this is why this made such big news is because holy cow, you can do this to yourself if you restrict super hard and then go in the opposite direction. It's a survival mechanism. It is, but yeah, the third trimester of pregnancy is another one. You'll see women who are pregnant and then they really, really go off with nutrition while they're pregnant, eat lots and lots and they find that it's so hard for them to get back in shape. It may be because they added, they actually added fat cells. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube Mind Pump podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam.