 Good evening, Ganesh Ashok. Thank you for you and we have always been hearing about olive green The endeavor we you started off so that the people could join the armed forces and we are too glad that we have started our Direct interview one to one. Otherwise, it was always webinar through you That's very nice of you. As I say that nation comes first. So probably we thought that why not go about with the defense Thank you very much I'm honored. Yeah We had always been watching about and reading about olive greens What actually went in your mind to start of this olive screen and what is the purpose behind it? Okay, I will take your mind back to 2005 Before that I was a group testing officer in selection board Alhabad So I have been in 11 board 18 SSB two three SSB's and also been seeing Thousands of candidates coming and going every fourth day because there is a schedule of four days and fifth day is going to be interview so It's an ongoing process of selection happening throughout the year in the selection board and Alhabad being the biggest selection board Sender there are five boards there. So you can say almost 50% of the army officer selection only army air force and Navy separate 50% of the army officer selection is happening in Alhabad only So naturally the inflow is pretty high there so as we have been seeing these kind of flow coming up there and You always, you know with our colleagues because interim officers their psychology is there are three types of assessment happening there One is interview second is psychology and third is group testing. So there are three Systems will happen there. There are three techniques of selection in fact, you can say that so this why there is three Assessors required for a candidate, which is very unique kind of selection put a world may only armed forces Kelly so This is called three dimensional approach to the personality three dimensional approach or we can call prismatic approach also with the three sides So it's little enigmatic Many people don't know what candidates coming few get selected few not getting recommended We never tell them he can't selection So it is a puzzle most of the time candidates keep asking sir Yeah, okay, I'm a subject of the selectable. Yeah. Yeah, you thought about that. I mean, who's the selection over those rise to such a new Who's the selection over? You don't in telling me because these are classified information which you don't share So there are a lot of myths about SSB cases may I say Karna. She was a Karna. She is I say behave Karna Hotha, you know, you should show that you are officer material So yes, I'm with key Chakram a key most of the Academies outside been happening for a long time now So it has gone into a kind of coaching methodology of Preparing armed force officers But after that process of written examination Now when they come to the final game of interview then this coaching method will not work Because what happening is most of the academies? I know that is what happening earlier that they used to coach the candidate for SSB Now what will happen is now what is coaching? They are telling you key is picture. I got a story line structured ideas structured. Oh, yeah So pre-conceived idea like a base there, but you then interview me as a behave Karna. I say chalna have a say chalna Then group testing peja ke group discussion pe. Yes style me bad karna ha ya group planning exercises There is some exercise happening, you know some crisis happening in your life versus group going Reforce problems happening in one place and what will you do? So you have to first write down your solution Then you have to discuss that also. So what is happening is they are all getting to pre-conceived answers Ki aise hi karuna So what is happening finally is without their realization. They are getting stereotyped most of the candidates So what the happening is they are started imitating their instructor started immediate thoughts over the years Naturally, I'm tutored. Oh, yeah. So kya ho gaya unki jo behavior artificial over So by coaching methodology Batchpensya kochi karte haare toh people think he has a very good thing to do Ki humne exam ke liy bhoj padha hai toh 90% mark mila nahi padha toh nahi mila aur ratta marke usi Textbook jaisi likh diya toh 95% mila. So from childhood we all would have seen that it has been Discourage to think in your own way. We have been tuned to think the way the textbook says Or the teacher has given you an answer usko likh nahi toh hi mark mila. So in my mind Ki humne ratta mar nahi marna hai. Same mindset pe aap SSB bhi jao re bach hai aur upar se ye coaching Karab kar rahe ho. So what happens is when they get into this coaching methodology of Psychology as well as interview as well as a group testing there are three techniques Which I told you. So what happening is inadvertently Inko student candidate ko toh pata nahi kya ho raha hai. Wo kya ho raha hai ki that candidate becomes Artificial. Ek fake personality ban gaya. Aur he starts behaving aur she starts behaving Like the instructor. Aap kya ho gha ek academy se 100 bachcha aagaya SSB. Saari jo bachche Same answers dega. Same interview baat karega. Same behavior dekhayega. So what is happening Is they you know when we Assessors see them we want to see their personality holistic We dekhana jaate hai. Ye kya karte hai they are trying to hide behind the mask of their Instructor. So hum usko dekhta hai toh hum unkoin Instructor nazarata hai. Usko nazarani Aar hai. So it is like a you know hijab paina hua hai. Aap badao ek hijab paina Ke aap me aap ke saamne baite hai. Aap mere se baat kar rahe. You will not trust me. Pataani aandar kya chee jaye. And you tell me ki show your face and speak to Me. I refuse to show my face to you. Will you trust me. Will you trust me. Will you speak To me fine. But aandar se jo amare truste aandar jaye na. That is missing because I am putting a curtain in front of me. I am not revealing my mind. Law mein kata hai in doctrine of lifting of corporate way. Absolutely. So yehi cheej ho rahe SSB mein. So most of the candidates these days are coming After badly coached. Very badly coached. So kya ho rahe yeh artificial ho rahe. Jo achche achche bachche hai. There are good candidates. But when they come there Since they have been badly coached they started becoming artificial there. They are showing their fake personality there. So hum kya dekhta hai. Hum dekhta hai unki 15 qualities. We call it officer like qualities. You are from the army family. Your father was in the armed forces. You have seen it all But I am just saying for the sake of audience. So we look for 15 qualities of the personality. Oil cues. So this 15 qualities touching upon the complete behavior pattern of a human being. Ap hum usko SS karma chaata hai. So we find copycats. All behaving like what has been taught by one academy. So you will not believe when we see that candidates after some time we come to know Kone se academy se aar hai. Patan se hi mein padh ghi. So this was a major problem which was happening so far. Now we will come to your question now because I have to give you this pre-log. So when I was there we had similarly thinking colleagues. So hum ne dekhta hai what are we looking at them. Humko mili neera. Ache ache candidate. They become artificial there. Suppose if he has come without any kind of coaching also. Probably you would have got selected. Uskoi leadership called us inbuilt tha. Obhi kharap kar kya hara hai abhi. So there was an interface missing. That is a reason in hamaara jangal zaman mein when we used to get selected. The selection rate was something like 15% also. Usse mein koi kochi academy mein koi khas nahi tha. But that 15-16% of selection rate has right now reduced to 4% to 5%. In a overall year average of selection. Which means out of 100 candidates going there, 95-96% is coming back. Without even realizing ki mere mein gharabad kya hoi hai. Nobody is telling them nahi. Aur kya karta hai, dubara jata hai, repeater bhenke. Same karbhai karte hoi jake. So every time he goes and bounce back and come back like hitting a wall and coming back. Not realizing ki ek berwaja aur kahi hai usko coal ki andar se jaan hai. Usko apni fallacies nahi dala chalti. So this was what is happening. So we had a set of officers who used to discuss these brains from this. So I connected with two of my colleagues there. Colonel Gadiyog, he was senior to me. He was an interviewing officer. And another brother officer who was with me as a group testing officer. We used to discuss. We were very thick friends. So from where this brainchild came up, after a lot of discussions, that what is missing is the right interface. Our expectations and what is being produced. To ye gharabad ho rahe hai. That yawning gap. Yes, that is a yawning gap. So we thought kiya missing ho rahe hai. Missing is a real training. Hamko unki leadership ko imbru karna tha. We should not allow them to lose their originality and boost their qualities and show them a mirror that where you are lacking. What are the qualities, what we are looking for? It is probably, I would not say missing. It is low level. These are all academies, basically it acts like a porter. Yeah. You can see the rain tune. That is the right. What right ingredients are required. That is the right. Like a porter, we are absolutely correct example. I give this example many times. Like a porter, we are seeing the clay. Now that we take a sample of clay. We will see, how many impurities are there? How many clay are there? Generally we are getting a lot of impurities. Clay is less. Why? They have got a lot more garbage on their coaching. So more impurities have increased without their realizing it. So when we select them, we are going to see, is it acceptable? There is a lot of impurity and there is some inhibition. Maybe if I answer, if I react in this particular manner. Whether it can act as a counterproductive in the right coaching. Not only for I would say, otherwise also if you take a coaching. Like as lawyers we see that, why people say that you have to be groomed up under the ages of a good lawyer. Yes, yes. Like Mr. Kapil Sibal, Abhishek Singh, Tushar Mehta. Allegiance. They, since I come from the, now I am into the legal profession. We give examples from that. You actually, they also tutor you while you draft it. What is the course presence? The same way I think that the coaching etc. So this candidate has to develop his own personality because you have to shine. You can't be a, his master's voice there. You know? So that is what is happening with the coaching methodology happening. So we insist like when I started, the concept is what was missing them is a grooming as now rightly bought out by you. Grooming is not happening. What is grooming? First thing is realization of themselves. Which we call self-consciousness. Strength and weakness is palachana. So first thing is knowing themselves. So this is missing probably. To candidate ko pata ho na chahi ki, main officer is selection pe jaar hain. Main ek civilian ban ke nahi jaa sakta. I have to be separate. I have to be different. I must look like a gentleman cadet in the making or a lady cadet in the making. So kya requirement hai? Most of the youngsters ko pata hain nahi kaila pata. Because it is in ignorance. As per the rural area se aate hain. Or maybe defense forces nahi hote. Passion bohata loko pata desh ki liye aane gali. But every work capability se nahi miss. Capabilities bhi hain. But work inhibition kya hain. Then the right grooming and right guidance. So mentoring is missing. The real mentoring is missing. Because we lo bol na pura na samane ba bol na guru. Aap teacher ban gaya guru nahi hain bhi. So teachers... In the Quran hai, toh man dekhaya kyaise karan nahi. I always tell to other people that it is more like a correspondence course. Karan did more like a correspondence course. But he had that vision and a mission to learn. And imagination to learn. So the point here is understanding firstly own personality. Where are my strength lying? Can I be able to polish them? Or mostly identifying the areas of improvement? To me aam lo amara kandidates ko yeh nahi pataate tere weakness hai. Haan bolenge you have to find out your areas of improvement in your personality. That's a very positive look. Weakness is something you have surrendered to it. Negativity is there. But here it is areas of improvement in your personality. So first thing is identifying them. And the second thing is... So there are three objectives of our training program that I visualized those time only. It is that we proved a lot of brainstorming with our colleagues. So first thing is to put them into the right picture of what are you. Mekon ho. That is the point which nobody has bothered till today. Second thing is objective is to show them what is the expected level of leadership you must have when you come to SSB. So that they know... It is like running a race. Where is the starting point? Where is the finishing point? If you don't know where is the starting point, can you run this race? No. If you don't know where is the finishing point, can you reach there? You don't know where you are running. And by coaching or even otherwise, you also tend to know that what is the expectation. Let's assume a 100 meter dash and for a marathon. You are both runners but you ultimately... Yes. The running style, the mental setup, mental strength... And his capacity also. You have to see his starting point too. Suppose his starting personality is not good enough. He has to run a lot. He has to have mental strength. Absolutely right. So this is very important to understand when we have to do the initial assessment of the candidate. That is very important. So making the candidate understand where does he stand initially, where he need to reach in the coming days. And the third and most important objective would be how to reach from the starting point to the finishing point. Which means what is the route to be followed? Now this route is not that easy. It is slippery. It has got gada. It has got gradients. It has got twist. How does he reach there? He doesn't know the route. So this is where we come now. We show them the route. We make them familiarize with the route. And we make them run through the route till such time they reach the SSB. You actually act like a Google or a MapMinded.com. Not even Map. We make them experience it also. Map is only showing it. But we make them experience it. What speed? What experience? I think absolutely right. Now let's talk about the defence forces. An ND, IMA, JAG. What other streams one has and what educational qualifications one has? Okay this is a very interesting information which we all need to spare. See our selection of armed forces officers age starts from plus 2 level. 17 onwards till 19. That is the first lot. The first obstacle you may call it. So plus 2 level may they get an opportunity to go to National Defence Academy. And this opportunity starts when they become 12 standard last semester. There is no need to pass the exam. Only in the last semester they will get written examinations of India. So this India written examinations happens twice a year. One is in April. Second is in September. So in a year they get 2 opportunities every year. Which means from 17 years he will get maybe another 1.5 years. So he may get generally 3 chances. 3 to 4 chances sometimes. But generally 3 chances. So plus 2 level say he should be ready to write the entrance examinations. Now last one year it was only for boys. Now the beauty is girls are also now eligible to go for India written examinations as well as SSB natural. They are also contributing too much. Yes, so Nairi Shakti which is now here. So that is far. Gender equality over here. Gender equality over here. So this is the first level of selection of this age group. Now what to do for that? They should be having plus 2 firstly. Or plus 2 may be PCM cupors physics chemistry max. So if PCM is not there then they are eligible but they will not be able to pass the examinations because max physics chemistry is very low. Then there are 3 papers there. One is English. Second is general ability. 2 papers but all included. In general ability all the plus 2 level examination syllabus included mostly the stress is on PCM. So a commerce student, ENR student will be very difficult. Written examination is clear. That is the first obstacle. After that everybody will have to go through the SSB interview as you are aware of. But in this the selection rate is very poor which I told you 4 to 5% of the selection rate. Because of this in the entire Indian army as on today there is 10, 11,000 offices shortage. Imagine a country where the youth population is the highest in the world and best brains in the world. NASA has got almost 32% of scientists. Still we find we are not having leader material here. Because the educational system is being done since childhood. They are tuned to make you a follower, not a leader. They are training them to become followers. Why? They are studying syllabus. And teachers don't know much about syllabus. So you ask a general question also. Suppose the child asks you what is happening in the world. Why are so many people being killed in the Gaza Strip? What happened there? The teacher doesn't know. So the teacher says there is no question about syllabus. So from there only he is not encouraged to understand the world what is happening. So this is a major point which I want to stress upon I mean through this interview this opportunity that if you want to be a leader in life it is not only for armed forces. For any good interview which can take the child catapult into a different world altogether the basic requirement is general awareness. Any interview or interviewing officer will definitely see the general awareness of the child. Definitely it is going to happen. Second thing which is important for the child or the candidate of that age group would be good communication skill. Communication skill you will say if we are Indians why should we learn English. But it is not like that Indians are fine, Indians are fine. But then you have to represent the world. You have to represent India in the world we are the best officers in the world. So we have to represent India in the world so if you do not know English then look at Premier Putin he does not know English. So how difficult is it why he has not become a national world leader because he is not able to converse he needs a translator. Communication is important for him. Not only English but communication to hammer the points. That is the point so in SSB we allow them to speak Hindi-English mixed together. So it is not English very important but at the time of writing English does not go but when you converse you should be able to convince the interview officer or you would be able to convince the group which you are working with so that you become a leader in the group and also you should be able to put your perspective in the right order you should be able to logically speak in a sequence and you should have knowledge to come into the logic so these are all interconnected issues so these two are very important to become an armed force officer plus one more thing that is physical and mental fitness Physical fitness is not there then what is the observation? This is after the 12th This is after the 12th So this is now for girls and boys together Now last one year first batch of girls first lot was only 19 girls who went for it they are almost finishing one year now I would like to tell you at this point of time that first historical first batch of girls All India merit number one Olive green candidate OGM All in number four Olive green All in number eight Olive green So out of this 19 we have a major chunk of girls be be trained So this is the first stage Now next stage is graduation level Now graduation level may be there are many entry schemes there One is NCC entry scheme if you have an NCC qualification where you have passed NCC certificate with a minimum B grade A grade or B grade C grade in each other Then you are eligible to go to SSB as an officer selection but short service commission over I will tell you that too but this short service commission over short service commission means you will be signed up for 10 to 14 years maximum then you are not going for permanent commission provided you are selected to go to the permanent commission So there is a board promotion board where they will be seeing it but mostly you are there as a short service option officer Now for this entry the beauty is there is no need for written examination There is no need for written examination So going through the NCC entry they do not have to write the written examination that is a big thing So that is one thing This goes for boys and girls but their vacancy is totally limited Now for the general entry scheme On the general entry scheme on graduation when you are again in the last semester of graduation you are eligible to go for SSB through CDS through there is again like Indian written examination there is a written examination called CDS Combined defense service examination Now you have to go through that So for that too you have an option if you are a science background you can go for permanent commission basically they will be open for that If you are a short if you are even an art graduate also in mathematics there is no need then he can go for short service commission because his two papers are English and general knowledge Whereas for the IMA that is IMA is for the permanent entry scheme Indian military academy for short service OTA Officer's training academy Chennai So to go to IMA they need to pass three papers now The third paper has got little arithmetic and reasoning and all they have to have some kind of knowledge about mathematics So even if there is no mathematics you can go So this is one entry scheme Second entry scheme is Air Force entry scheme Air Force entry scheme if you have a science background you can write this F-cat Air Force cat paper similar like CDS and then they go for Air Force similar to Navy Kilebi Now this is one entry scheme which I told you Second entry scheme is Engineering entry scheme Engineering graduate scheme is a different scheme That's a very beautiful thing A lot of people don't know about this Any stream engineer in last semester they also can go through officer selection Army Kilebi need written examination But for F-cat you need written for Air Force and you need written for F-cat and Navy but Navy in Air Force you need more engineers because it's a technical army So naturally they are a little more strict about the selection Army maybe we have got technical arms like engineers signals some other substances EME Science students have more scope in the defence forces Absolutely Today with the kind of technological development happening with the modernisation happening Science graduates have more opportunities With a vis slight edge slight edge because technology is increasing we have got drawn warfare electronic warfare air defences coming up With science knowingly or unknowingly wittingly or unwittingly your analytical mind thinking is also slightly different One entry scheme I got stuck in the middle that is called technical entry scheme in plus two level only I got stuck in the middle What is that if you get examination plus two there was no need to talk about there was no need to talk about but here examination was over there was no need to talk about but this can only happen for PCM candidates physics, chemistry, max non-medical If they get around 80 to 85% marks in the examination now they can apply directly for SSB This is a very good scheme Many people do not know about this This is called technical entry scheme Now if this technical entry scheme is cleared in SSB there are enough seats then they directly go to Army engineering college Army engineering Army will complete expenses of engineering and they become engineers there and then they go for all the engineering arms Even Air Defense Army Air Defense even for engineers The government is actually pushing up that There are very good schemes Now I will tell you a very interesting scheme Army for the people inside they are also for becoming an officer internal departmental There is also a channel that is called ACC Entry That is like an examination ACC examination like an NB examination only but they have a different entry scheme they can also become an officer Now in that there are a lot of schemes In fact you will find a new scheme for war widows as a welfare measure Normally girls are married they are not supposed to be unmarried but for war widows they can go to the SSB and directly go for an entry scheme That is a very good scheme for war widows Then for the lawyers also like JAG Now you have that lawyer thing It is for low entry similarly education but it is for low entry it is called JAG as you said Here again there is no entrance examination required Last semester if you do not have any backlog you can apply for JAG entry and Selection standards are the same and Selection procedure is same There will be a little difference that in your interview we will be asking you low rendered questions and what do you know about army low and regulations what is court martial little bit you should know what are you going to do in the armed forces what is your job profile You should know that that is what we are trained like we train JAG candidates they will have a special interview especially you have to train them then we tell them what all you must you know what is the difference from interviews there is a difference because you are what do they look into it quality is the same 15 qualities which I told you we have to see quality of 15 officers same same but in the interview I will also your technical profiling also technically are you good for example mostly simple example say I may ask JAG entry boy talk about common uniform civil court what do you think about it constitutionally are you how do we stand constitutionally what are the issues we are going to face how it is going to affect the society by doing this we can ask constitutionally you know little either there touching will it affect the society one officer like quality is there is there legal knowledge is there social awareness is there I think that is required for all interviews yes it is or even in the society at large that is right but at the same time especially yes commonly you should have a general idea but when you are going to join the armed forces definitely you must know about armed forces also and definitely you should know the neighboring countries also because Hamara's maximum neighboring countries Hamara friendly we are in a very special situation and other small small countries also not very friendly with us and because the enemy of us naturally that is China they are trying to influence all the small small island countries island nations around us and now you see Sri Lanka Mali islands Myanmar every these small neighboring countries they are under the it was a Hindu country with only Hindu country in the world but today it is a communist country like we were talking like you are an academy and anyway personality development what do you see and a person who has taken a coaching and otherwise personality development because you have studied it for 15 years for one month then they say from what background you come what leadership quality is there personality development what things do you see personality how can you be polished before coming to the academy to make a mindset you have that passion like army there is no defense force nation first only what how that personality development what do you see and how can you polish yourself so I took it because you know one of the most important things you have told this is the whole crux of the armed forces election when a candidate comes to us the whole team we are going to see are you a job seeker or not if you're a job seeker we may not select select the candidate we want the candidates to have a patriotic glimpse from his eyes we must see that he's got a fire in the belly he wants to wear uniform with honor he is here to safeguard his motherland he got that you know energy level jazba jazba jazba jazba we find that he's a job seeker we are looking for a job we will find good work we will find the same do not have this patriotic look�� Else So the moment I find that they are job seekers, I lost interest in him because he cannot be an officer. Because officer has to be a sentinel of the motherland. He is a guardian angel. You have to inspire the troops to bloody face bullets. They won't be able to find a job. They will run away. They will have to develop leadership. So this is a major call. So that is one issue. So now you ask me how it will be developed. Mostly this is parentage. Society is also responsible. Mostly you will find a child coming from a family of patriots. Definitely the child will also be a patriot. Otherwise also we say that a man is known by five closest personalities to him. Again like you, you are a very patriotic person. I have seen you. Because you have a tradition of an army. You have seen your life. You have seen you fight your ancestors. We have spilled blood for the nation. So that is a different thing. So you will find mostly a child coming from south. They have never seen a war. They have never seen a war can be so cruel. They have never suffered. They have never fought in south. It has rarely happened. It has never happened after the time of Tipu Sultan. So what happened? They don't have it in their mind that we have to fight for the nation. So I get from all over country. I don't think we have to fight for the nation. It's just that you get inspired by seeing each other. It will be a technological war. Nothing happened. I am not saying it is not 100%. I have seen General Dhillon. I have seen General Malik. General Sam is from Madras. People have been inspired. Veer is from Madras. He is from Madras. He is not saying it is not 100%. I am saying it is actually surrounding. It happens in one village. Someone is going abroad. Someone is going to engineering. I am from Kerala. I am Ashok Nair. I am Ashok Nair actually. Why I am telling you this is because when you see the common lot, Armed Forces is not their first priority. They want to become doctors. They want to become engineers. They want to get shot in the border. This is a general attitude of the parents from South. But they are very passionate and they are clear also. Because they are good. So these are the things which are very important. One more thing which I want to tell you on this particular point only. You said what do you see? First thing is what I said. What you said. Second thing is 15 qualities of the personality which I have told you. We will see generally what quality is generally okay in you. And what are the qualities we need to improve upon your personality. Now what happens when I see little technical into this. There are two types of qualities which we generally see. One set of quality is called Genetical qualities. We call it core qualities. Which are embedded in your character. How it got embedded? Genetical factors, your parentage, your schooling, your environment. But there is another set of qualities. We call trainable qualities. Which are highly trainable. Once we have academy. We can train it and boost it to any level. So why I am telling this is because when we select the candidates, we see the weakness of trainable qualities in the embedded qualities. Core qualities. If the core qualities are less, then we will select them 4 times. Whereas in trainable qualities, the core qualities will be good for the candidate. We will definitely select them. Because the core qualities are present in the person. There is a communication skill. It is the more you practice. Communication skill is a trainable quality. You can build a stamina. Stamina is a two type. Again it can build up. Very good. Stamina is a two type stamina. One is mental stamina. Another is physical stamina. Physical stamina is highly trainable. Mental stamina is not very highly trainable. That is embedded in the character. So if you want to know, I can just run through these 15 qualities just to have an idea. See these 15 qualities go, we divide them into four factors. Factor one, factor two, factor three, factor four. Now to make others understand in a common language, we connect them with the anatomy of a human body. So the factor one, we say this is the quality of the head. Four qualities. Factor two, we call it the heart. Three qualities. Factor three, we say quality of the torso. Five qualities like five organs inside. Factor four, we call dynamic qualities. So these are qualities like limbs, heart, fire. Why it is called dynamic? Because these are the quality which will push you in life ahead in spite of failures. So it is dynamic in it. That is why it is called fire. So first quality which I said four qualities which is factor one. This we said quality of the head because it is basically connected with the brain power. So that is the most important quality, effective intelligence. And what is effective intelligence? Practical intelligence. That is not basic intelligence, practical intelligence. So you have beautifully become the soul in Punjabi. Thinking on the feet. Jugaad. Jugaad and thinking on the feet. Jugaad and the mind. This is the most important for a military leader. A common man does not need a military leader. Because you have to survive in the enemy area. He has to take things and work out a solution in spite of lack of resources. That is the reason. Next is called reasoning ability. And this is a very important quality. Because reasoning ability we call the mother quality of all other qualities. This is the fountain head of all other qualities we call it. So reasoning ability embedded in nature. Practical intelligence be embedded. Because for two months, if you train for one year, your reasoning ability will not be there. But it is genetically connected. It is connected in your upbringing. Though it can be changed by comfort. If you put effort, it will happen. Third one is the organizing ability. The third quality. And organizing ability as you said mentioned is highly trainable. If you train a person, it will become a very big problem. No matter what you organize, it is training. The fourth one is communication skill. Which you said earlier. Communication skill is highly trainable. In one year, I will teach Mandarin. I will speak in Chinese. So it is highly trainable. So we are not really concerned about your communication skill. When you speak, you should understand what others are saying. There is confidence. Absolutely right. Practice makes the man perfect. Confidence will come later in the qualities. Now this is the first factor one. Four qualities. Now as I said, three qualities of quality of the heart. Why is it called quality of the heart? Because these are qualities of the feelings part. Quality of your sentiments and feelings. Now there are three qualities. Social adaptability. Co-operation which is helpful attitude. And the third is sense of responsibility. We see these three qualities very strongly. If these three qualities are weak, then it will not be of much use to train them. These three are core qualities. The person is not socially adaptable. He is an introvert character. He doesn't talk. In other places, he is like a fish out of water. Or just like you can't train. They are living to climb the tree. Absolutely right. This is the problem. Again, the helping attitude. You know in today's times, helping attitude is coming down. I am not saying no. But there is a world of self-centeredness. Self-centered. Self-centered. So this is another major problem we find with the youth these days. And the third and most important which I am concerned would be sense of responsibility. Casual attitude normally. Sense of duty and self-discipline weakness. So you will find, the selection which is not happening, these three qualities are a major concern for the selectors. Because these three seem to be very weak. We say factor 2 missing. There is a very dangerous loss in factor 2. When will we select it? So this is happening now in a very big manner because the society is turning out very materialistic kind of environment as you know it. And you will generally find children don't have any punctuality, some casual attitude. Casual attitude in the dress. Haven't you noticed, the whole person is not taking a bath these days. They are not talking about tightness. Everything has become fashionable. So this is a major concern. I have seen, if you don't come, parents will keep on talking to you. Not today, they will shift slowly. They will wake up on time, parents will talk to you. And you know in a new fashion, this whole way of wearing a beard. It looks a little bit like a tapori. I think so. Because I am a soldier. So this is a major issue which I would like to tell you. And now coming to the third factor which is called organizing qualities which I told you. So there are five qualities in this. This may you will find initiative, self-confidence, speed of decision, ability to influence the group, and liveliness. These are five qualities. And in these five qualities, liveliness is not very highly trainable. But all other qualities which I said, they are highly trainable. If you get good training, you will become self-confident. If you get good training, your initiative will come. You will get jacked up everywhere. People also understand to attract people. There is no liveliness in any society. They are more like a magnet. They all attract the aeronauts. So if you are cheerful, that is an embedded quality. This is embedded. A sad, sad soul. You will always look for the negativity in life. So that is not the right attitude of a leader. Coming to the fourth factor which is also very important. There will be three qualities. Determination, courage and stamina which you said. Determination is highly trainable. Along with training, determination will increase. Confidence will come. And courage is another major concern. Because courage is an embedded quality. People do not do that. And courage also has three types of courage. Moral courage, mental courage, physical courage. Now moral courage is not very trainable. A child who has got so many moral values in his childhood from his family, from his father, it is very difficult to change that. But physical courage, improve from training. If you raise him 50 times in height, then he is afraid of heights. He will not have acrophobia afterwards. This is the thing. Then as you said stamina. Stamina is also two types of physical and mental stamina. Physical stamina is highly trainable. So generally when you look at the whole thing, we are going to see, scan through your personality at the SSB. And each character or each personality will be seen by three assessors. Using three techniques. And seeing the same thing. What is that same thing? 15 colleges. In defense forces, that also happens when we go to interviews. WIT, word aptitude test. Tell me something about it. That is very interesting. Psychology is a technique. So what does it do? He puts 60 words, selected words. And every word is meant to create certain response from it. Connecting with these 15 colleges. If we call these 15 colleges, then we will understand. If we connect 15 colleges, we select the words. And we put 60 words, which will keep flashing in front of you. In 15 seconds, we will see one word. We will see what we are seeing from it. What thought has been triggered in the mind of the candidate. But, there are no genuine thoughts. He is saying that suppose the word is say honesty. And he has already thought that honesty is the best policy. Which is giving example. So we already know that he is already saying that word. Because all his academics have a proverb. So there is no proverb. So what is happening is, we are seeing, is this candidate giving me genuine responses? What is triggered in this mind? What response is he giving? Is it connected with his actual personality? Or an artificial personality he is trying to project? Psychology sees this. Similarly, there are many words. And we are going to see what kind of response he is giving. Now, generally you will find there are four type of responses. Four type of responses. The best response is a very matured kind of response called observational response. Observations. Second we call it special information. Not childish, but it is connected with information. Second level of responses. The third level of responses we call it auto suggestions. Or we call it advisory sentences. And in our mind a lot of advice comes out. Advice keeps coming out in our mind. Because we have heard the whole life advice, we also give it to others. But they don't mean it. It is very easy. In 60s words a person is giving 25-25 advice. That shows that person is slightly faking that personality. Because he is not giving advice for others. So he is like on a dreamy level of mind. So this is not good for us. And the last level which is lowest kind of response would be common facts. Common facts is very simple facts. Like a child. I will give you a simple example for everybody to understand. The word I give when you use blood. Now somebody have this response the color of blood is red. Everybody knows. Childish thought. Low level thought. Now you can see what the child is thinking. Do you know the color of blood is red? Another level thought is there are red corpuscles and white corpuscles in blood groups. Now this child can't think. He knows he knows about blood groups. So this is slightly better. Not exactly better but better. Now third child says if you lose blood you will die. It is a suggestion also and it also shows his cowardice in his mind. How can he become a soldier? He says if you lose blood you will die. You will die. So this is a suggestion with a kind of subcortisphere. So I am not happy. Now you see another sentence coming up with this child. Blood donation is a noble cause. Now you also tell which is the best response. Talking about nation, talking about social work. Talking about his heart. He will have a helpful attitude. He doesn't mind spilling blood for another human being. So I say he will see 60 words. Then he will know how the character is. So this is one test. This is a severe powerful test called TAT. So if you have this blood ultimately then how would you I am not saying your academy even otherwise how does that academy or let's assume somebody has not started an academy but he has also been a trainer coach or something. How will he train to give a different stimulus or a different reaction to that particular blood. You see If you don't say anything blood donation is good. So how do you Then we will see That's why I am saying we don't give any sentence to candidates. We call them ogeans. When we train them our psychologists and we don't give them any sentence. We just give them the word only. Since they are right. We just discuss that. We will not tell them this is Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions Reactions come up with what I have seen in the world outside, so it shows your maturity level. Even then, if general awareness is weak, awareness in candidates is very poor, naturally we will talk like a child only. Because he has a lot of childhood memories. He doesn't have any maturity in his mind. Now I say in the JAG entry scheme, suppose I am giving similar words and all, you will, mostly you will find candidates connecting with the society, connecting with certain low systems. He is even slightly more mature. 10th, graduation 3, third law 3. And he is learning about the impact of constitution on the society. So his level is different. So we see this. When we reach the group discussion, what do you see in the group discussions? On the group discussion, this is entirely different from the way the outside group discussion is very different. The way it is in MBA. Yes, it is different. What we have is, we give a general topic, current topic and a social issue. Either a general topic will happen, hot topic will happen, current or phase. Or it will be a socially affecting topic which is also generally being discussed. You will also find out that he is impressed with what is happening with the society. Say for example, we will discuss something very live, like for example, I will give you an example. In India today, crime against women is increasing day by day. It is a fact. This is over. Now I am asking a question. This is a statement. Now I am going to ask a question. In your opinion, what is the most important reason behind it? Most important. Now I am not allowing to think too much also because I will give you three leads. I am going to give you three leads. GTO will give the leads to you. Now I am giving this lead. Male domination of the society. First lead. And men dislike women empowerment. First lead. Second lead, law and order conditions are very poor in the country. And criminals are not punished enough. So they are getting encouraged. We all know that. Third is little controversial darling Gavi. Women themselves are responsible to a great extent. So now look at men are responsible. Second is women are responsible. Third world law and order conditions are responsible. Now we will look at, you are given 15 minutes time. Group size is 10. You have to catch any one viewpoint. Not all three. There is a point in all three. Everything is equal. But you should think which is for you. In your opinion which is the most important. Now we generate a discussion. And this is a duty. It is not like a debate. We will not tell you that you have to come to a decision. No. Discuss for 15 minutes. You put up your views together. And give substantiating. Give some proof. Give some evidence. Or give some example which comes to you. Then discuss it. That is all. And 15 minutes are over. GTO who is our group testing officer. He will say okay time up. So for the first discussion what we do there. We give two topics. Out of which we will allow them to take one topic. Choice it. Second discussion immediately back to back. For that no choice. Our topic will be compulsory. We will give that too. For example. Second topic generally we do not give it so tough. We give it simple. For example. What is the most important problem faced by India today. And stopping us to become a superpower. But it is the most important stumbling block. Now we will put corruption in it. And nepotism. Second is overpopulation. And poverty. Third is unemployment. And illiteracy. Is that a problem? So now you have to decide. Whom you have to catch and talk to. This does not mean everything. We know everything. So now I am going to see how you are convincingly putting across your points. And make a substantial impact on the group. What thing you are placing in that particular? For that you need communication skills. You need a tact to talk to the group. And you should not be short tempered. You should not say you are wrong. Nobody is wrong. You cannot be judgmental. You have to be diplomatic to talk. Again you should have knowledge to talk. So now what are we seeing? Preferably we are seeing his personality. His maturity level. His awareness. His way of conducting himself. Is he a democratic leader? Now you will find a lot of boys and girls. They have very dominating nature. They do not let anyone speak. They are very good. But then they are very dominating. And along with domination, there is a little arrogance. I know everything. So this we do not like. We do not want democratic. We want democratic leaders. We are not looking for dictatorship kind of leadership. Team. Together everyone achieves more. We have to take everybody together. So we are looking for candidates who are democratic in nature. Who can speak well. Who can conduct well. And also allow others to perform. Giving room space to others. I want that. I do not want political leadership. So there is a lot of difference in military leadership. In corporate leadership, it is the difference of the earth and the sky. What do you see in corporate leadership? You should be a very good speaker. You should be cunning also. To achieve an object. And what do you see in corporate leadership? Easy able to sell the product. Can you deliver goods? Do whatever you want. Your character is not being assessed. But here your character is going to be assessed. Are you an honest person? Are you a crook? We will not take you. So in the qualities of personality, we give a lot of strength to your moral values. That is not in corporate. Who is bothered? Nobody is bothered. They want results. This is very different. To put it in a nutshell, if you are trained properly, Foreign Armed Forces, training, like what we do is training only. And physical fitness is also important. So it is an overall training process. If you have a clearable candidate in the SSB, let me tell you, wherever you go in the world, you will be a success. Why? So much personality development, nobody does it. Nobody does it. Nobody wandered it. So that is the reason, we need to work on basics first. And basics is good communication skill, good general awareness, and Sanskar. What you said, we need Sanskar for that. A crook will catch him. And a lot of people bluff. That is the combination ultimately. So that is the reason, selection standard is very less. So easily I am coming to the first question of you. So when we realized these things, we came out. I came out in fact, and I gathered this small team first, which I told you one of my senior colleague, Colonel Chahal, Colonel Gadio, he was in the ring of Sardar. And Colonel Chahal, he was with me. So we were the core group. We came out from the armed forces and made this academy, and we said, we will not do coaching here. We will not spoon feed the candidate. We will train their mind to become a leader like material. And we did one last 19 years. We got more than 8,000 candidates cleared and their offices today, 8,000. That is very good. For every part, I am reminded miles to go before I sleep. So all the best. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. We will catch you.