 Welcome back, my good name is Selva Kido and you are watching SPM Buzz. Welcome to another episode of Exclusive. We are bringing you the story behind the tattoo, the inspiration, the Johnny, the idea behind every tattoo. And today I'm being joined by a celebrity tattooist in town in 254. Ki mongalia bana kila nambaya na fanya kazi mzuri, wanyakwa na ma tatuza ki peke, bro. Isi tatu, ni piya prasya, ni art, ni chance, I don't know, but what is your brother's name? My name is David, David Binger, who is Incas Tatuza Kenya. What is Incas Tatuza Kenya? David Binger, what is your brother's name? Tuko Wapi, Tuko Located Wapi, nini na fanyi kaha pa? Tuko Biesha Rastit, Ison Plaza, right next to Rafiki Bank. Second floor, Room 202. Ibu ni mbe, David. What is your role? What is your job? Mimendo, the owner of the shop, kazi amu ni kuchora, kupias, na kutua. Na kutua? Kuna tatu tu nape na pa? Vi tutatu tu pekeke. Kuchora, kutua, na kudunga. Naku dunga? Ibu ni mbe tu 40 ni gani? Kuchora ni kueka kwa angozi, permanent tatuza, kutua ni kutua zilezili kwa permanent. Kudunga ni de piyasins. Kutua ni kueka permanent? Kutua ni kueka permanent? Temporari. Ibu ni mbe, what is your definition? What is your understanding of the word tatu? Tatu is a body expression of what you love. So kumakuna design unapenda sana, unata kukanao forever, uneza heka. It's original to say me itopia. Nombu yabaibul kitambu sana, kwenyeba. Ia waturukana hi? Badu ni tatu. It's a body manifestation. So ina depend kama ni scars, ni permanent, badu ni still tatuza. Atatu very spiritual, very inspiring? Ina depend na klunia ya ka. Ina za kwa kumani angels ni spiritual depends on what you're getting. But mostly Jesus tatus, ina Jesus, ina angel, ina wings. It's only very religious ones. Tatu na warimbo na Nairobi, same what's up. Na today, emekuja inkas for one reason. They is a celebrity CEO founder Tumbele T-I-V. Lini piya gana mbekido, I want to do something extraordinary. I want to show Kenyans my love for someone. Na uji amas yuni na na mimchora. Tumbele is planning to have a tattoo. Nalewi tumum fatulia pandani. Tumbele mi fika badawe? Asha fika konani. Agama nani, wajetu angali e. Twingi na niki logo wali ambawana zimi aku chora tatu. Bastu mi fika inkas. Kama onataka kutua tatu, kuja inkas. Vilevile kama onataka pising. Tumbele. Na una zoomu apuna zoomu warimbo. Isi tatu ni za warimbo. Sio za wa naume. Wanaume na chora unga. Ajami na tatu. Kafuli. Kitwija ifa anywa ya ni. Amani pige tatu ya nambayangu ya simu. Amani pige two dots. Tumbele muna kwa pa lewa? Apani kuku pige tatu yangu ya kwanza. Onaji mi mambaya tatu spenda gila kini. Tatu ni watu light skin. So na elewa una cheki. Kuna watu onatamani tatu lakini wa kona ngozika ya kuburu. Na ya kutu 40 na ya kuni yangu ni gani? Buru angaliya. Mi na konyesha place ya kuchora. Yanwe unaji wei mou usi muli muzima. Angaliya mi muko na yangu. What made you plan to have a tattoo? Just for fun. Ya just for fun. No pure pressure. No no no no no no pure pressure. How much pressure do you have by the way? Ya ni siri yangu uta yona tu. So kwa apa? Uta yona uta yona. Uta yona ni metafutapa lakini si jaya yona lakini. Na ni mkupati ya pressure? Akuna pressure bro akuna pressure. Tumbele I don't do what people do. People do what I do. Osha yona tatu ya nambayangu ya simu. You tell me. Ujaya yona simu. Osha yona mtu na tatu ya business card. Bro lazima tu kwa outstanding. Something unique. Very unique bana. Udiye tu usi yona wato me chora managu yona chora managu. Tumbele you drawing a tattoo. Naji wei ni mtu mba kuna family. What about asema? Who is responsible? No let me tell you bro. By the way I notice Juzi. We are four brothers. Wawili tu usi simu na tatu. Wawili. That is not the reason why I am going to do this tattoo. Ya. I want to do something outstanding. Something that has never been seen in this world. Khali. Yani nata kata ni chora tatu yo nekani. Nona. Juzi yona jula kwa me piga John C. Na shoes muka zama pressure ni ni ni ni. Bro. Tumbele lakini kwa na tatu kwa ni. Because I believe before someone chora tatu. Yona have kwa make sure. Influence of something. Kuna endi e kuna contract na sign? Yes another sign. Kila jura tamaz kama kwa soba siya kwa soba. Nona juna depend runa karaktaia ke wile yuko. Aki inga kama kwa poa. I don't question. Lakin ni anybody who is below 18 there is no tattoo in. There is no tattoo in. Why? Anybody below 18 that's a boy and a girl. No student. No students allowed. Yon we kia kenda lichora kwa 17ina haf. Khaya kenda lichora kwa 17ina haf. Yon wakina kwa kwa 17ina haf. Ni Nama kwa naka Nodia nibe alifkisha 18ina kwa chora tatu. Nata kwa kwa Nodia nibe alifkisha 18ina kwa chora tatu. Newan Newan nibe alifkisha 18ina kwa chora tatu. Tumbele nibe latu ni mizazi. O kuna wata wata ulisha wata wata uliza. Kwa tuwa kwa nanai tato wa nanai tatu. Nand kwato kwa na tatu wata万i watoto. Yana. Wata watu watu watu bakawa mo demu nyone. Tatoza scale to napa zangora pandom toto asinyo nye bro. Mejia zingineza kuske wa toto asinyo nye. Hei. Hei. Nini kiki skala apa. Ntu ya kili liya matitu na mone sheiwi. Ano ona skal. Ano anza kulia toa nachana matiti. Titu miliku na kitu na toa privacy. Na kutola tatu ni kitu nma. Of course ni on your own choice you can do anything you want to draw. But for you as an artist, as a creative, I believe maybe it's an opportunity for you maybe to showcase something you cherish, something you value in your life. It can be maybe your first show, it can be your first born name, you know? No, I don't want to go that direction because I'm very sure globally that someone has already done it. Mine I want to equal to outstanding bro. Outstanding. Okay, let's do this then Tumbili. Ujye chagu wa kwaikitabu? Mi mi, akona ni miyango, akona fomiyango ready. Uzo matu, anachola ni ni witu mili? Tadjua. Twingi elab basi Tumbili. Uzo kama ujye kula piwa West Chorakwa tu? Bro, apandani kuna mokimosa ni mili. Apandani. Alafu ni kwa soba, tangu ni zaliwe soba. Lagi nwa siwingu kuna tatu na kwa kwa levi. Buda. Nga una sema? Izo ni health standards. Ni kwa matu filu nambu wa don't abuse drugs, but you abuse. Nga get? People do what they are not supposed to do. Apu apu kwa zuna kwa. Apu kwa Jay. Apu amendi kwa skojo e kwa yo Jay even do na kwa. Ustupeta kataka apu apu kwa tea. Apu do na tupa takataka. Do tatu when hungry. Go do it when you... Bro, umifunga. Uwe kama sayu we na jwe sayu we. Shekhe. Shekhe. Shekhe. Alright. Aya, bro. Tuwami e baby before Tumbili to Riza Tumbili. Procedia kawidem to kifika apa unumkalisha. What normally happens here? Normaly what happens u na ingia, u na ka. Dan kama u kuna design, u na niyoneisha. Kama u na design tu na cha gotu apu poli poli. Kuna catalogia apu. Apu do palinda kwa ni meka. So you just show me designs apani badu display. Ya what you want to get. So neza koneisha kwa. So show me the what I've done. Na badu kuna chance ya kunyoneisha kilu. U na taka kwa kwa. What is the weird datung doasha kuri custom chore? Um, jina liluin. Full name. I.D. Apanyuma. Doing Michael Carter. Okay. I love kuna zileta tu watu na pina kuchura mali weird sana. So metua bava apaju. U na apaju pekek. Isu matatu. Isu watu na kujanga na mabue friendia upo na ka apu. Jusamdansi pei na kuwakidogo. U na paziya. U na joku na paziya na fo ama. Yes, mafumika. Isu zi nge na zoteni private. So kama ni kitu private. Tengi andan. U na jimi na jina private yam tubana. We do not judge. To say mahi. We do not judge. We do not judge. Apanyu story adu. U na angale apesa kuwaza. You mean you are very professional? Very professional. Um. Tere tava vera silika tatuwa. Apanyu inkas bro. Inkas. Onajiwa vera kuna tatunga piwe. Tafutabadu. Onajiwa kuna tatu katikati ya haga bro. Onajiwa yu. Onajiwa je? Bro. Vera ni boiwangu. Bro. Ile haga vera. Tere kiki hiwi. Kuna ispre divi kuna tatuwa flan. Nia pukwa kwa junction. Ile. U nia wu na wongia. Siyo sisi. Ile ni opini na tumili na SPM baz. All right. Chua as bro. Chua as you think bro. Na tumili zi yuna kilipa. Malipo yuna kwa kia after. Kutatumu tatuwa kangi na pesa. U neza se mahuchor wesimba ito kia paka. So uta lipa badu zi zi zi nuna kata. E na situation nwa ya klanta li se mahuchor opusi. U kamchora kitu ingine. No. You still have to pay. Kuna mitu ako perfect. Once wu na juakili wu na fanyu wu na. Nasa maha kuna mitu perfect. Ata yesu. But si jai kusia. Si jai ni kuna iile jai kusia. E na man zi na tatu zile zalo budget. Na chora usiko. U shei kusia spelling. Ia jini amu se spelling rare. Para. Na kala rentu. Tazo we print kwaaza bifuata yanzi. Eh. Last we print you are confirmed. Then bifuame confirmed usasa tuweke. E ma di mitu mou se me kudia pa mese ma ni chore tatu. U nama betu kweneta kama ni gangi. Iita wne kana. E na dependu. Rangi bando ikon. Sema tu. Bosi. Sema tagia tubu. Amu nga paku mwagaunga. Sema tu bosi mwenya. Imagine butita mi kudia pan takapigwa tatu. Butita tan eza kwanata atu ni nini nya mou nangi. All right let's go in masi. Tumili wu na faku change. Wu na faku change by the way? Eh. Susaka me yesu wu na kukuju. A na faku naku woga ni ni. Apa hala. Tatu adu sueta then susatu wans. All right guys. Tumili is about to have the first ever tattoo. Siju anachora ni ni baile mese ma kitukali. Ebutu wami e paile. What can you predict for tumili? Maybe anachora exwake. Because tumili baidu haja move on. Na tukawa paku find out anachora ni ni. Stay tuned for more. We're coming next with more on espm bars. Ita kuna tatu ya anastoto. Ni nya mwezi yo. Laki ni. Apa ni mejite arisha for the last 20 years. I can't cry. Ata nilisha liye in advance. Do you think people will judge you now? Only God can judge me. And God doesn't judge every time. He chooses what to judge. Ukeka vasia bai bama kitu ya mungu. Mungu ya. Ukuja pana jaja. Ukuja na jaja. Laki ni na ingiza moto kwa simuyangu. Kuna jaja. Ukeka yesu story. Ukeka misalaba story. Only God can judge me. Mungu jaya nga kwa l�i oso. Yaa. Do you feel what people will say about now you having the tattoo? Are you ready for the pressure? Are you ready for the pressure? I'm the last person of the last person to have a tattoo. What about your parents? Ni miyata story tatu. Na chorambili. Aya. Alright, two mili, let's go. Let's go. One more time. Kuna excuse. Right after Kitu Kali. Yo ape kwa mfu frici. Ninge juwata ninge kuja kani, ninge ogata kani juzi. Onas kejashu ena. Kosafi. Tumbele is about to have first ever tattoo. As you can see, I don't know if you can see the wording. Ni ono grip muna eka ma nini niyo? India kupaka. Ha pomona logo ya Kampuni kubua, Odi Bates. Betini Jamu, Betini Mojo. Odi mene saydi ya Vijanas. Anandomana nime decide kwe katatu ya Odi. Do ini kumbushe. Kwa mene saydi ya nime? Ya nime, diseni mene saydi ya kwanze meni peha riziki. Manze nili kwa jobless. Odi wa kani peha job. Odi wa mene peh leka maju. Nimenda inchiming ki sana. Mi sifanwa nini wa kuenda kuochi live balls. Lakin ni Odi wa lini peha fursa. Ya kuenda kuochi nini. Ya kuenda kuochi live, bro. Onajoku kuochi world cup live. Sili ndu luochi nae mbaka nani. Brazil v. Kamarunum. We imagine nili cheki naima nda kurusheivi. Bolia pokwa lines. Are you ready for this? Yes, I'm ready bro. Are you giving a minute to change your mind? Wana nani, cheki wacha yo kitu. Ha ha ha ha. This will remember forever. Nyuchungu. Ha ha. Nini ku nael. Nini ku nga tibala fina tu la waju. Nini teke pichu na maani. Kamera maani. Nyuchungu wacha tu. Please. Kamani uchungu. Mimi vitu uchungu si dealingi nazo. Pilipili, Sili. Ya. Sizi ekele aganji kwa kitu e uchungu. Yes. Kamai tis painful. Leave me alone. Tu mili wa i Odi beti? Ya, Odi mazi. Ndi wa mazi idea vijana bro. Kids, youths. Kids are benefitting from their parents. Kwenya waluwa na nini. Wa mazi idea ma talents. Juzi wami wana Odi wami pelika basketball team. Plus the coach, plus everybody the trainer. Ga na wapi, France. France, yes, yes. Ya, I remember. Wana wana. So it's a lot of stuff man. So that's the only thing ni wana tu. The only brand I can put on my body is Odi beti. Alright, let's do this. Do we need to pray? To nama? Amina. A moment of silence. Amen. Amen. Yes, amen. Amen. Let's do this then. Amen. Amen. Amen. Feminist waluwa, I think waluwa medoz ki dogo. Sir, ni kwa dresetiyo nini. Okay. Wana punbupana punbupana. Ah! Sukechi ni kutoshi komin za kenshi. Aka nama na. Kuna seku kwenshi na, usume wa kumana punbupana punbupana punbupana. Kili although de shere ni, was iti ya wana. Ha ha ha ha. Ha panalu mussisi. Sukechi ni kitu nini. You wan tukamon na wa funga sazebe. Ya na kuna kutu nini, because you see wajungu go. Finally, finally guys, you know what is happening here. Tumbele, you've made it. How many hours, brother? What's the time? 3 hours, manzi. We just went back. Anime talk up walk out, manzi. How many am I? 8 or 2? I mean, I'm not too strong. Do me. How was the experience? It was a good experience. It was a good experience. How was the challenge so far? It was a good experience. It was a good experience. How many hours, brother? One and a half hours only. Tumbele now, is this tattoo worth? It's worth it, bro. I have a contract with I'm an employee of OD and Pia I've been filed for work and I've been working for ODO and Mama has benefited from I've been filed for work and I've been working for ODI and Pia We have changed people's lives. Yes. Directly and indirectly. Yes. What does the ODI team Damelo disrupted wajia? This one I'm not doing for them, I'm doing it to just have it here as a mark To just appreciate the Brand OB Youth. Yes, Lygikiativa sectiona. Lygiki sham tii van ہوza Kutifai Fasai? Yes, Kutifai Fasai. You need me now just to ask you, he will cause kama shingapivi? Staki kusema kwa sabu wa tuwata kwa zileza ho e anaji sho. I have no time to... I don't want people to discuss the figure. Yes. Yawata mimi am not... mimi mimi me lipa tu kitwenye ameni tisha. Mimi kama mimi ameni anambia gawatube hi kansa. Yes. Shingapivi? Yeah, 27. Kilam kuna biya. And it's closely here? Yes. Now, just to ask you now, Tumbili, how are you planning to maintain this tattoo? Kwa ni kuna kwa na kumutu kumenten tattoo? Yes, kuna aftercare. Oh. Take us through. Aki sila zima ni ogedeili zindi ho? Kogo doga kama kila siiku? Sila kini sii kila siiku. Ni kama kila siiku, lakini sii kila siiku. Suna una. How do you maintain that tattoo? Ia ratumia ointmenten eto agrabasin 3 krematapaka 2 to 8 times a day. Yes. Yes. Isha fura tayari. But fura after skumbili. Skumbili. Tumbili, just to ask you now, what is the next tattoo you're planning to have? Maybe my phone number. Why? Muto kina ombasi mutu na mutolea ni ni have. Have you ever find yourself? We talk less. We talk less. Have you ever find yourself in a situation you're by now, a client who has a tattoo and a regret? Yes. What is the situation? Sasa huzuri ni siya kita kutawatu na toa badu. Nibi asyara. Nibi asyara badu. Yes. Just to ask you now, somebody wants it now, now and then after, and feel like ita kitena. Tumbili. Yes. Do you feel pressure now? People now will talk about it. People will judge you. People will see you as you know, you're losing direction, you're losing it? Bro, you know there is nothing like losing direction. You lose direction, the where you go is still a direction. Nani elewa. Okipote angia. Siwe badu tumi angia flani. Badu ninjia. That's why mimi na kata aga story zati wrong number. Nani pigia we ni ambia. Ransali mi. Akuna wrong number. No na. Ni wewe tu siya, kolagini it's not a wrong number. Nage. There's nothing like losing a direction. Na yoswa lumimuliza sigyo regretting. Even if my contract expires with all debates, I'll still not remove this. It's a lifetime thing. Yes. They remove tattoos, wanatua, they have that technology, they remove. One of the services they offer here is tattoo removal. But again this one I'm not removing. Yes. Kachimi dead without this tattoo. Yes. Maybe a message to those that are planning maybe to have a tattoo. Where to find you, where to look for you. And then maybe what kind of tattoo will you advise them maybe for the start. Because I know for sure tattoos are addictive. You can confirm that to me. So if somebody wants to find us at Atapatapa, Highstone Plaza, Beishara Street, 2nd floor, room 202. For tattoos that you, maybe popular, sana nikamaizi love, hope faith tattoos, name tattoos, amai ni logo tattoos, yoswa kind of popular tattoos. Yeah. So for any tattoos come find us here for social media at Atapatapa, because tattoos Kenya. Tumili. I know you support us, no? And before you ask about us, kudo sana the technology here is extreme. I've seen they also remove maybe ukiwa na ni bano max ama ni zileza kucho makea scars, they remove them. Ti piwa neneza kuku piga tatua poju to beautify them. If maybe you are not proud with your your scar, e una una, una e kawa tatua poju. Mi mi like for example, ninge kwa na maybe ni kwa na ni kwa na maybe kaskak, maali kwa muli. Una kujatu na funi kiwa na tattoo yengi na make sense. Yes. Tumili? Yes. Asno might win the league this season. Asno. Keep in one million to have an asno tattoo here. One million. Why not? Why not? One million, bro. Do you know why I'm leaving? For money. Yes. Bro. Are there celebrities that you don't mind tattooing their face? I can't do a celebrity's face or anything else. Not even my kids tattoo. Why not your kids? I can't do anybody's tattoo, bro. I don't trust anyone. You don't trust your kids? You don't love your kids? I do love my kids to death, bro. And you know that. I can't just do their ni ni like kati ni chore jina flower, siji shark, siji levian, siji nani, no, no. I can't. It can be another way of showing love and expressing your love to them. No, no, no, no. Bro, there are so many ways to express love that can surpass a tattoo. Tell me. So many, bro. Tell me. So many, so many. Mention to me. Zinina tani kidogo tu ununuliam toto tu iyake. Amam na pito mu letrem andazi jioni, bro. That's extreme love. Shows you care. Do you know their parents who did tattoos of their kids? And maybe naf kamali, they regret. Mifanya DNA unapatam toisi wako. Ten years down the line. Yes. Mto iyanakwa kichu ongumu anataka ataku kuwa and you regret having their tattoo. Do you fear it may happen to you? No, no, no. Me, my kids, I'm raising them with the... I'm not raising my kids the way I was raised. No, na. I'm just raising them the way I was raised but naongezakituflani because me, manzemi, I was raised visuri sana onaget. So I'm just adding something on top that I was raised. So I don't see my kids messing up in future. Yes. Tumili, at times when someone talks about that it can be another way of maybe you are in fear. Are you sure those are your biological? Let me tell you, I've said this over and over. If today I go back home and find a DNA letter on my table showing that they are not my kids, the love will still be the same. For now, I don't even call them my kids. They are like my siblings. Why? Why do you call them your siblings? Because, bro, me, I live with my kids like my siblings. No, na. They are like my brothers and sisters. No, na. Because najiwa mambo ya wanawake. Najiwa ni ni atujiwe? Bebe ya na mimi kuna maali ni mutotuwangu flani anahangu maali ali peyanu wa msi anajiweza because maybe at that time, siku anajiweza and their mother ali onawu jamaa ni tulia na umtu ni katokwa. Kuna msi tulia li pewa shotu moja na kakewa mutotu. Sindio. So, if I find today that my kids are not my kids, mark this. If I find today that my kids are not my kids, because you see me, the games I play with my kids, atasai na zengia kwa hawa ni te anko. Ya, yesterday flower was calling me anko and he was calling my brother budake, dad. I have no problem with that. It's a game and maybe in future, it might turn out, mimi ya tra mimi ya tra si budake, si anko ya ke, mimi ya tra mimi ni brother ya ke. You know, na get. Hey, maybe muzaewangu kuna bila li enda baku do na demoangu yo time, mu na get. So anything is possible in this ni ni under the sun, bro. But if today I find my kids are not my kids, bro. I'll treat them the same, same way. That's why I treat them the way I treat them because I treat them like they are not my kids. I treat them the way I treat my brothers. Okay. You see. Ya, be prepared mua pema. Uzi pitfiki ho kundo me gonga 70. Do na notice mua toisi waka, aso na anza kushikuwa na atatak. Of all my kids, let me tell you. I'm very sure. There is one that I know is not mine. But na kwa ga nimi me pay attention yote. That's your biggest fear? No, it's not a fear. It's not a fear. Bro, I've raised other people's kids. What do you mean? I've raised other people's kids. But again, it's not our wangu when ni me kano kwa nyumba. Do it anishitua in future. Ya. The only fear maybe ni patetum zai wangu simu zai wangu. But I don't want to give my kids room to know that I'm not their dad because I know how much they love me. And I know how much they can be affected. Maybe I'm yet to know if how strong is they are like ni ni. How can they, like Viloaneza, control anything emotionally. Ikitokia, wa pati seriously, I'm not their dad. Bado sigyajua, they are still young. But for me, if today I find out that my father is not my father, I'm prepared. Tumili, what would be a reaction when your kids see they got a chance to see you have a tattoo? I don't know, I don't know their reaction but maybe you know my kids are fun. They'll just make some fun of it. Ni ni ni ni. But I can't wait to see their reaction. But again, I would love maybe to see them do a tattoo under 18. Why? Because maybe I don't know but I just feel like they will be judged as bad kids. So, ya spoil, kuna iyo judgmentia tii uki onam se na tattoo ni musim baya. Kuki ibiwa maali wana nanzaga na msa kwa ya aneza kwa ni uiubana, ako na tattoo. Ni kama se wa weed. Kitwiki poteaga wana nanzaga kwa zana wasewa, wasewa, wasewa pombe, wasewa weed. Really? Wana kama kuna macho iyo ane kwa kanda wa tiawsi wezi, wana. Wana get. So, I wouldn't want them to cause under 18, they are still under my care. It means I'll have to be responsible for any deed. Wakipati kana na tattoo ni niya 18, ni mimi minta kwa blamed. So, they can do the tattoos at maybe 20 plus. Wana. But for now, I have to make everything, I have to make them understand why I have this. Yup. You've mentioned about weed. German. Are we next? Uiubana kwa informed bana wa subgroupi enu ya wasewa bangi mume tumi wa footage already. Uiubana banshibare kwa streets the Berlin? Okay, I'm not aware ni miskiya kwa kwa ko. You do weed. No. Sometimes. Ah, zi. Part-time. Zi. One fry base. Ah, zi. At night. At home. What I can say, economically weed is very important and nearly too here in Africa, especially in Kenya, we are not yet ready to use it economically. What makes you think we are not ready? Cause there is a big abuse of the drug or the weed. Onona. There is a big abuse ya weed. And the research too much use of weed, the weed which is cannabis is leads to kinda ni ni una fiatu kidogo. Onona. Excess, excess use. Kuna ile limiti enu na foutu mi e eni neza kuku savavisha because I've seen even in Canada they have cannabis cafes where you can get in and take tea from cannabis. You can have a smoking zone ya cannabis. Hapa Kenya ibu jaribu kitu kama iweke smoking zone ya banki. Weka tu. Yes, you will see everybody. You will see the likes of kina salasia wako pali, kina songkua kita kua pali, waishimi wa weingi wata kua pali. That's your opinion. Ya, that's my opinion. But it will be misused. We are not yet ready as Kenya to use that weed for economical or let me say, medicinal value. We are not yet ready. Iu inakwa ga tukama defense ati we are supposed to grow it ati kwa ati add some medicinal value. But again, wa sayawa juwi ina tibuni ni. Ona get. It's a defense so that we can smoke it. Other countries kwa ga leka ma yamani The people are smoking this thing are less than the people who are using it for medicinal value. Hapa Kenya ni vice versa. Kwa sabu lemi tell you, there are hospitals that are wakuna certificate yaku to miabangi for treatment. Did you know that? Yes, there is a license that you acquire to have it because there are specific illnesses that you need to have some amount of drug. Hapa Kenya, actually, smoking is not bad. Sige iskia mutua li shikwati na vuta bangi. Ose iskia mutua mi shikwati na vuta bangi. Sina morafiki yambawa na vuta bangi. Bro, I'm just telling you, even me. Sijawa iona. Bro, I have a list of your friends who smoke bangi. My friends? Yes, your friend. We have mutual friends. Bro, we have mutual friends. Amon na nyangaliya tu mipeke hangu. What are my friends? No, I'll stop pretending because in itivi yako. Bro, we have mutual friends who smoke bangi and you will never find a police arresting someone smoking bangi because even the police themselves wana vuta bangi. Bro, police wana vuta bangi. I have a list of police when you wanna vuta bangi. No, na. Ose iske mtu wa mi shikwana polisi ya ke vuta bangi. Polisi will arrest you when you have bang for sale. Wana shikaga wa wuzaji. Oshiki wa vutaaji. Madewa ngara ndani. Jirani ya ke ndani. Every day, a week, kan't isha, Kamuji iske mtu wa mi shikwana bangi ya wazia 20, 50 million and above. Why are they arrested? You get? Because they have no license, number one. They don't produce the reason why nwapi wana peleka. The destination. You get? Police will never arrest someone who is smoking the bangi. Okay. Alright, Mubili, thank you so much for talking to us. That was very deep. That was very inspiring. Anytime for you, the story behind the tattoo happening every, going live every Saturday on HBimba's channel. Thank you so much for giving us insight about tattoo. We'll see you next. We'll feature you next on the show. Tumbili, I know people will discuss about your tattoo. People will talk about now. They want to know your next tattoo. I just want to tell you, thank you so much for giving us an opportunity to be part of what you're doing today. To our listeners, to our viewers, please let us know in the comments below. What do you think about Tumbili's new tattoo? Is it okay? Is it fine? Tumbili anachoma and a bun. 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