 Thank you, God, for bringing us together today. Here in Europe, we have already lighted the fire a while ago. We started to watch an episode of Touched by an Endel with Emily and Jason. And the next session, we had the cultivars joined and they talked about their inspiration and their miracles. And now our next session will be with David Hofmeister and Kenneth Clifford in a joint tour de force into the mind of each other. And after that session, there will be a break again and we will end the day with a music concert. But for now, I'm happy to introduce this session with Ken and Andrew, with Ken and David. Oh, Andrew! It's lovely to see you, Andrew. Oh, yeah. Well, now that I've introduced them, they can take over. Hi there, everyone. Oh, welcome. Beautiful. Well, this is like an expanded version of your show, Get Real. Yeah, this is what we're here for. Yeah, maybe you can tell everyone a little bit about the show and how it came about and all those fun things. Sure. So now it's been going for 41 episodes. That's been every single week. Haven't missed a week yet. And I think really the thing for me about the whole thing is dismantling the world really, what else is it for? So I feel, I feel so blessed that that was given to me as a way to release thoughts to be completely and utterly honest with what's going on in this seeming process. And I feel that's been a wonderful outlet for me to really pray in the moment. I feel like it's not planned. Most of the time a title comes on the day and then it's okay, Jesus, what are we talking about today? And I'm excited as everybody else to hear what's going to happen and to find out what insights he's got for me. So that's really, it's always like exciting for me living in this not knowing. Like I said last week, I said it's interesting like for a human being not to know is a sort of, okay, we actually need to know what's going on. And I felt like that. And in doing the episodes in not knowing it's like, wow, it's so, so restful. I don't need to know. It's a beautiful thing. For me, Jesus is just bringing the course alive, you know, the teachings. He's saying, listen, there's no point in just reading it. You've got to get on with it, mate. And that's what he shows me what it is and what it means. And he leads the way. He knows the way. He knows the way better than anyone. So that's where my gratitude lies in the master. And feel so blessed to be able to do this. And so, yeah, I just share all my struggles on there basically. That's what I do. I share my struggles, my insights, my miracles. And when I'm pumped up and I want to share, then that's what I'm going to do. So yeah, it's been so rewarding for me on this journey to be able to share in that way, to have this opportunity. And yet again, here we are. And with the episodes, actually, it's just been me sharing for roughly between 45 minutes and an hour. And it's always been asked, are you going to open it up for questions? Is there another way of doing this? Yeah, we've actually yesterday, we were actually talking about maybe it's time to shift it now into Zoom and YouTube each week. So we can have more interactions together. And so this is the second time we've done this. So it's always lovely to be with David and just to share in the miracle. And just, you know, from yesterday really, just wow, you know, Dark City was just immense. That's just everything that just inspired me on big time. You know, that's all I felt, you know, watching that I just felt, yeah, bring it on. That's the prayer for that one. And that's what Johnny did, you know, throughout the whole thing. He was just like, I want to know what the truth is. I want to know what's going on here. Everyone's fallen asleep. And I'm awake and I don't know what the hell is going on. And I am going to get to the bottom of it. And so he had that determination. And then, you know, the other part was there's people trying to kill me. So, but this is the predicament that you find yourself in, in this world. And that's why I love A Course in Miracles because Jesus is just laying the whole thing out. And one of the things that came to me from the movie was David shared a lot about the water. You know, that's the purification, that's the cleansing, it's transparent. And the whatever they were, what were they called? Those beings, those other, the ego characters. The strangers. The strangers, yeah. They did not like the water. And what was coming into my mind was what Jesus says about this world. Jesus at times calls it a desert. There's nothing here for you. He classes it as a desert. You know, and in some places he calls it the, it's a madhouse. And he calls it the slaughterhouse as well. Not many people like to hear that. And it's like, wow, I really need to hear that. Like, this is not my home. This is not where I belong. Thank you, Jesus, for spelling that out to us. And I think that's what this movie did for us. It gave us it straight and saying, this is the world of the ego. It is a desert. It is dry. There is nothing living there whatsoever. Nothing can live there. It's so dry and desolate. And it's like, well, thank you so much. So when I first heard these words, I know most people get freaked out. I was like, well, thank you. That's really good. Great. Out of my escape. That's all I thought about it. That's what I thought about when that came through. I thought, brilliant. Finally, I actually know what's going on. I knew there was something suspicious about this world. And that's what happened with Johnny. He was, this isn't right. What was going on? The ego wants me dead. Okay. This thought system that I've believed in for so long wants me dead. Okay. That's really, really helpful. Okay. And the Holy Spirit is the guide out of here. Jesus has already overcome the world and he wants me to join him. Oh my God. Okay. Great. So there's someone who has gone before us who is guiding us all the way. Okay. Perfect. Great. You're not on your own. We are. We are going to be better off together. You are. You're not on your own. You're not on your own. You're not on your own. You're not on your own. That's all I thought about. And the Holy Spirit was, it's over when it's over. So this is where this is where we find ourselves. And so we can end this today. If we wish, you know, Jesus is ready. The miracle is ready. I mean as as Francis said, the joys now. And this has been what I found with a quarter miracle. I think this is my last insight. in this place is a crazy mad world yeah seemingly upsets are going to come and just in my mind it is like okay this thing's gone wrong I'm upset I'm angry I'm frustrated whatever it might be and then all of a sudden Jesus is there and saying hello have you forgotten me and it's like oh yeah and he said don't forget you can be joyful whatever's going on it does not matter what's going on you're choosing to be on the screen now you're choosing to make this real you can stay with me and I will show you a complete and a new perspective and so as Francis started this whole retreat happiness is now joy is now is simply a choice in the mind nothing more nothing less is you want it or you don't want it that's why I love the course is yes or no it's black it's white it's darkness it's light it's very very simple I love simple things so in any given moment do you want the joy or not that's what Jesus is asking you right now do you want to be joyful and you've got to want it and mean it with the whole fibre of your being that's the only way I can do it that's the only way you're going to get it because the ego is twisted and wants to bring you down it wants to bring the ship down and it wants to say you're never going to make it and all of this nonsense and wants to make all your problems so special because of what's happened to you and it's not special at all there's nothing special going on with your tiny little story it's made up and you're believing in it and there is a much greater plan happening in the background and he's saying listen I can't change that for you because you have to recognise the strength and so this is what Kirsten was we were meditating on yesterday God is the strength in which I trust and he's saying I can't I can't do this for you I'm here I am cheering you on but I cannot take away that you have such a powerful mind you are the power and if I take that away from you I am dispelling the truth about who you are so I am your cheerleader I am here I know what you are but you have to recognise it for yourself so you can dispel all this nonsense here and now so that's why it's always here and now it's not we're not waiting we're not waiting for something it's for this very God given moment and whatever is standing in your way right now this is why we've got to get super honest with ourselves and say okay great I want that joy I'm not experiencing it what is standing in my way so now we go back to the front of the book this course does not aim in teaching the meaning of love for that is beyond what can be told however what can be told and released is the blocks to love's presence and so this is why we're joining now Johnny has already passed through he's done it for us he went through he went down he wasn't frightened he wasn't been frightened okay he was a little bit frightened but he was okay I'm going in and then look what happened the whole way through the Holy Spirit was there and so for me what was shared yesterday from David which I think was the most important part is yeah it's going to be fearful like get with the programme you're living in hell right now this is hell this is the ego's domain is hell okay good and the Holy Spirit is right with you and has never left you so this is the good news this is the absolute good news and look what happens to Johnny when he goes and faces the ego he goes down there and for a second there he thinks that he's on his own and he's going down he said okay listen if it's got to be on my own I'm going to face it he thinks he's on his own and then he gets down to the bottom and what happens is he's implanted with the Holy Spirit yeah and the Holy Spirit is just like I've got you now bang you're coming home with me and that was it that was just the end game that's the end game and so yeah there are going to be times all the saints and mystics have said throughout time and history yeah I didn't feel the Holy Spirit I didn't feel the love all the time sometimes it was terrifying but the light is always there so it's going to happen you're going to have good days you're going to have bad days while you're here get with the programme but you've got to keep dusting yourself off like Johnny and saying no I want the truth he won't give up for no one he had all those killers after him god knows what else and he said I am getting to the bottom of it so today is where we get to the bottom of it that wasn't happening to Johnny that was your story that was you that was the truth of who you are and Jesus has the door open as he says the prison door is open right and you are refusing to walk through it now that is complete and I'm madness so I was like okay then Jesus help me walk through the door and that's why we're here today that's why you know that's the title of the show get real so we've got to get real session this morning and and normally Ken just goes like that for 45 minutes an hour but now we're going to have you invite you to come on and get real with us so we're this is like kicking off the interactive aspect we're in zoom right now and we're kicking it off and when you were talking about the desert too I said yeah I think I remember that in the first matrix too where where Morpheus calls the matrix a desert and there's a section right before the I need to do nothing section in the text of the course which is the little garden yeah and think of ourselves we're in the little garden now and we've each got our little plants and we're ready for the water and we're inviting the Holy Spirit and Jesus and they're bringing the watering can so today we're going to get real and have questions experiences together for the next hour and a half or two hours where we're just going to keep inviting the water just bring us to throw that water on this instead of throw us into having to throw the water on this and you know what happened when they threw water on the wicked witch of the west in the Wizard of Oz that was the end of the the witch because the water just took her out pretty quickly actually and and you have to invite the water you can't really expect to flourish in the desert you know you really you do need the water to water the the plant that's growing so it's beautiful Ken has actually had several people contacting him and just saying yeah I can't wait can't wait to have some live interactions and and directly interact so that's what we're doing here today yeah well did you have a few people yeah I gave I gave a list to um Pete and Soren we had um Helena I've seen you on the screen where's Helena there she is she's got a hand but there you go there she is hello am I unmuted yet yeah yes yes yes yeah hi well yes I have no clue what I'm gonna say okay um I adored the film and um I'd like to say how grateful I am to Kenneth and to David how you've supported me over David the years and Kenneth the months and I've lived a very happy Soren life for many years in the life of a monk really as Kenneth has said and um just recently as I've already shared with Kenneth and last night I've I had a huge upset because um my son nearly died and much as I do my best and talked to him about his best both being illusions I have been most terribly upset and we're waiting for the results of the MRI scan well when I shared last night and all during last night it was all coming up for healing um I realized that how hard I'd been trying to just stay calm you know I've been trying to control my emotions and not be upset and been judging myself if I'd had any physical reactions and then suddenly and I've and I've been hunting it over all the time but suddenly I had this this huge sense that it that it is already all right you know that that is my mad dream and that um what is what is happening with me and my supposed son that it is there for transformation and um I guess what I'd like to hear you both say something about is um you know we we talk about Jesus and the Holy Spirit with God there's something out there but I had a real sense this week of the merging because that that's us isn't it in reality that is who we are and um I just wondered if you could say something about how you experience that how you experience that oneness please thank you what's interesting that you were just talking about um how the world's a desert and part of it is the the whole awakening comes from starting to to acknowledge that to really come to an acceptance of that and so you're bringing up an example with your son and that is so common this is a perfect example of an opportunity because the ego made up this world to make up idols and to try to convince the mind that these idols would satisfy and Jesus says you know it's as if you say well I don't really want much or I don't need much and oftentimes core students will say I really not drawn to much in this world but and then you wait till you hear what comes after the but because the but is going to be the idol whenever there's an ifs and or but and there are three sections that are consecutive in the text pretty early on but basically it's the title of the three sections are attraction to guilt the second one is attraction to pain and the third one is attraction to death and the and when I first read those I was like wow three titles like three sections in the book with names like that no wonder this course is not a popular pathway attraction to guilt attraction to pain attraction to death and you're bringing up the last one where the only reason you can have a reaction to to your son almost dying is because there has to be an attraction to it uh you would you wouldn't react unless you had an attraction there and so that really starts to take us deeper to the forgiveness that's needed to go into that oneness because as we've said many times it's not so much he says you don't have to seek for what is true but you do need to seek for what is false and he says this course does not aim at teaching the meaning of love for that as far beyond what can be taught but it does aim at removing the obstacles to the awareness of love's presence so whenever I've had a reaction to anything like a consequence or an outcome like in this case the even coming close to death for your son that's an outcome and then just the thought of that outcome brought up a reaction and and yet we know that I'm never upset by anything in the world it's always my interpretation and I think underneath that interpretation if we took a shovel and we were digging under the plant saying bring some more water in here it's to get down to the root is where is my investment I have to have an investment in something in the world before I could want a particular outcome and it can be in a family it could be a mother and a son it can be a sports game who somebody says I want this team to win the Super Bowl what is it Tampa Bay and the other one says no no Kansas City and and it's the same thing there's a reaction based on the desired outcome for a son to live instead of dying or one team to win the Super Bowl instead of another team or one politician to be elected in the in the EU or in in a particular country instead of another you know we can see that I think very clearly that the ego strategy is saying just this one thing a lot of like Wonder Woman I just want this one thing I want Steve and then the whole world has to fall apart before Steve says you want to reconsider wanting Steve if the whole world is going down because of your one wish and that one wish is is actually enough to keep the mind from heaven from enlightenment just one wish for things to be a certain way like Jesus says the only thing that needs to change is really your mind you have to to realize that you have the answer with inside you and yet the ego says if if I can just stay the same then something in the world needs to change or be a certain way for me to be happy and you can see that's the whole trick right there that's the whole caboodle there yeah it's interesting actually because I don't know why this was covered to me this morning but I was just thinking about loss and I was just thinking it's just one big setup that you're going to lose something this is the ego's trick that there's a huge great loss in everything that we're doing on this path whatever it's following us along as if something's going to be lost and you know Jesus is saying nothing can be lost and he thinks it's hilarious that we think that we're actually going to go going to lose something and when you really look at everything that we're doing there's always this idea that there's going to be some sort of loss behind it or there's going to be some sort of gain but as David was sharing it's always about what's going to be happening on the screen what I'm going to lose on the screen and what I'm going to gain from the screen and there's nothing really to be gain there it has to come back to see that it is everything like there is no separation between you and your son and there never ever will be and so I think that's where the real prayer has to come into your heart and be like Jesus I see this in my mind this seems absolutely real to me I need your help you say that we are one I trust that I really do trust that but I need to see it I need to have this direct experience of this and show me that there truly is no loss and he will come and he will show you he will show you that there is no loss and so that's it he's there right where we believe where we are at and he knows that and he wants to convince you in fact he already has convinced you you're just going to remember that somewhere in your mind it's already there salvation is there go and find it and so he's there saying come with me come deeper come closer and you will see that there was never ever going to be any loss thank you and yeah thank you for that because that's huge because you know we all we all experienced that in this life this this it feels like loss I mean I think probably that was probably why I got into the course in miracles why it came to me I was like it feels like I'm rejected everything goes wrong in this place you know it feels terrible it feels absolutely awful you know most of us have had seeming loved ones that have died you know and it's like that wasn't very pleasant this is the hope of our life to die oh my god what the hell is going on and it's like you know I feel it I feel I can say that because I know that he's blessed me and I'm not saying that I'm over lost or anything like that but I'm saying he has shown me a lot and it's like wow this lost thing is just in my mind I just can't believe it so I feel excited to share that with anybody that for a fact the tide is turning and yeah it's a blessing yeah yeah the first first principle out of 50 miracle miracle principles at the beginning of the book is is that there's no order of difficulty in miracles and that's restated a little bit later where he says there's no hierarchy of illusions one illusion is not more important than another they're all equally unreal and and yet going back to the the clip we saw with the Wonder Woman basically here's Wonder Woman who's basically into service she's just into being helpful going around and helping anyone out that she can and she's into full service she's into a full service function and then she just has this one wish and that's for Steve and Steve's gone Steve as far as she's Steve's dead he says she's miss Steve I miss Steve I just wish I could have Steve back and then just that one wish seems to be granted albeit in a little bit different form it looks like Steve to her even though to the rest of the world it looks like somebody else but still for her wish is granted and that's what the course is really teaching us is that as long as we make one exception to the miracle then that will bring up our reaction because one exception is saying there may be just an instant here where death is is true and Jesus has said there is no death and swear not to die you holy Son of God you make a bargain you cannot keep but if we make one exception we just hold one thing out and say oh please please in this case please just for this for this case please can this be true then it it blocks the miracle because a miracle it doesn't have any order of difficulty and there aren't any hierarchy of illusions so so I think we come back to what you were talking about the beginning that the ego is a death wish and it's it's something we can't let go of partially we can't say okay I want 99.999 percent life and and .0001 death just you know I can have okay I can have an ocean of love and if you want to put a little drop of poison in it you know go ahead but Jesus is saying no love doesn't have an opposite there is no drop of poison that you can put your faith in because it'll block you from the ocean of love if you if you think your eyedropper just one little drop oh it's not too bad it's just a little white lie no Jesus says no the truth is true and only the truth is true love has no opposite and that's what's so fantastic about the teachings you know it's that's why as you go into this like you say you've been happy helmet for for all these years really quite a happy life and then the ego is going to try to raise a flag up the flag pole and say hey I salute to this one I've got one called your son that I just want you to just salute to one right here and that'll be okay but you know it's Jesus is saying don't do it don't thank you thank you so much love you so we have another one from your list Ken and that is that is Evelyn I'm asking her to unmute yep Evelyn oh yes hello hi Evelyn hi Evelyn and Isabel and Isabel yes yeah talked about it before that I quit working two years ago and since then I don't have a job I just been busy with the stuff around it and practicing and practicing and I started my own practice practice but that's not working like I don't even work so and so I I'm at home and and that's okay most of the time I'm okay with it and sometimes I feel I'm judging it and it's all not good and what am I supposed to do and what is my function other than business of course but in the doing and yeah it feels like I'm a little bit impatient and then I think yeah you you just answered it I think I'm talking about a fear so I'm a little bit confused when you're in your right mind it's all loving and it's all good and okay happiness enjoy and then the ego is fear and then you said you said you have to take that step so my question is when when am I staying in my comfort zone and because I don't have fear so now now it sounds like I have to in the fear and I don't know which step that will be and yes I don't know I don't know if I have to do something um like work or step into something and if I have to do that what is it so I'm asking these I don't know if it's there but that's about my question I hear it I hear a question there because I enjoy your your songs you sing the workbook and you're there at home and Isabel's there it's really it's a wonderful life and and then I hear you say sometimes I I'm thinking and I think when you're thinking of the future uh this is probably where uh the ego tries to tempt you into the future future thoughts and um Jesus says that's that's your remaining problem is that that you believe that there's a gap between now which Ken's talked about it's quite happy and you believe there's a gap between now and between a time to come when you will forgive so so you've set up a gap in your mind and if now is total happiness and this belief in this gap in the future you could call it future outcomes future consequences uh a future um scenario maybe you call it that I'm going to be working for the lord uh in the future uh but I don't know how it looks yet and that bothers me it's just this gap that you believe between right now and an imaginary future time in which you believe you must forgive and that gap is hell uh because uh Jesus is saying what about the immediacy of salvation uh he says future loss is not your concern he says your real dread is present joining and he even tells us that if you could just forgive one person just one person completely if you could see them without the past then you've got it you're that you're home just one not many just one so there you've got Isabel right next to you you know uh she could be the one uh if you you see if you give yourself fully because we're coming back to the the present moment is really like you were saying that's where the joy is that's where the power is that's where the happiness is that's that's got it all yeah yeah yeah that's the that's the choice this is the choice everything's waiting now it's here so the first two questions and this is for the whole universe Helena has to forgive the past that she sees in her son and and and really fully go into the moment and you all you have to do is be right there in your home with Isabel and it's the opportunity is right there but it's simply having the desire to see the pure innocence having the desire to say I I will see nothing from the past for you I will all the memories like in dark city the memories I have of you the good the bad the right and wrong let them all be swept away let the watering can come and and and let my my plants sprout up and enjoy like a giant stock that goes all the way to heaven just from not seeing the past and feeling the glee and the joy of of present joining that's what we always come back to yeah yeah and I was I was actually just thinking for me there was this period where I didn't feel inspired by the world and so it was like what am I but but there must be something there there must be something I'm supposed to do in this world but yet I don't I don't feel it it's not sort of happening and so I was looking for my inspiration outside of me and under the guise of well I want to be helpful so maybe there's something I'm to do and it just sort of felt very very depressing to me and I thought there's got to be something you know that I'm supposed to do so finally I had to sit there and said well actually what is my true inspiration and as I was sitting there it was like well I'm inspired by God that's what I'm inspired by and then all of a sudden that's when everything started to change I'm like I don't have to do anything conform I'm just going to stay with God and I'm going to wake up with God every morning and whatever wants to happen is going to happen but I don't have to make anything happen and then that's actually when I think I actually did start getting more happier at that point because I realized what my true inspiration was to be happy to feel the love of God that's where my attention has to be every day and as and as you said I'm doing the forgiveness what else is there to do so once I just said no it's true I want I I want God and I want to be shown that then seek not outside yourself so thank you you thank you Eberlin and we got really many hands up and also we got questions on the chat yeah I'll stick to your I'll stick to your list and we have Esther hi guys hi Esther I just wanted to let um everyone know how much uh when we join you and I in the movies and I'm able to ask questions how much I am benefited from applying what is reflected back to me and so I just wanted to say first thank you so much always and um I have two subjects one is um fear that arises during the time of needing uh normal people sleep a lot of fear and uncomfortability comes up and I wanted to know what I I do say before I go to sleep here I am Lord and I try to get present with that thought um but there's a lot of unconscious stuff that comes up during sleep the dreams and uh I no longer um like take them seriously I see it as an opportunity to forgive whatever comes up and then I let it go but the idea that I have difficulty sleeping um is is a topic for me and then the other thing is I I feel like um um well like for a specific thing like whether or not to get my mother's teeth fixed um at her age if she does they'll probably pull out the two teeth that she choose mostly on even though they may be you know really compromised uh I tried to give her a supplement that might help but then I noticed is it may not be doing anything and um I'm trying to ask for guidance about what to do with that and I wanted to know will will the will the will when I say make it obvious I sometimes feel like it's going to be like something's going to happen to our teeth that has to take me to the dentist because I'm saying make it obvious so there's fear of even saying that prayer and if you can help me look at that differently that's greatly appreciated if you feel too and um just the uh just so much gratitude for for the joining is that we have the opportunities that we have together thank you so so much well it's interesting because both of the questions about uh difficulty sleeping and a concern about uh your mother's teeth and it does remind me of uh of a recent work work lesson it might have even been yesterday's where where Jesus says uh go through as many fearful outcomes as you can find in your mind and uh that's part of cleaning and clearing the mind because all of those outcomes whether it's um sleep disturbances that you fear may come tonight or in the future or the outcomes around your mother and and those two teeth that she uses to chew uh that what might happen might she have to go have the teeth removed uh what would that mean for her diet you know Jesus is saying let those hypothetical fear thoughts and those hypothetical situations come to mind and really practice turning them over to the Holy Spirit because we know that that's how the tricks of the ego work that when we when we think whether it was Helena with a concern about her son uh or uh Evelyn just talking about what okay I'm at home now and what about the future though is it is is it supposed to stay this way uh recently a friend of mine talked about a another friend who had been living in her car for the last three years and she was wondering a bit like would the Holy Spirit really do this would the Holy Spirit have me live in my car and I thought well that's kind of like a modern day hermitage uh instead of the out in the woods it's it's in a car but but still when there's fear around any perceived or conceived outcome then that is a suitable opportunity for forgiveness because as Ken talked about it said it's a forgiveness of this belief in loss like there's still some fear that there could be some future loss and he's come right out and said it's not your concern your real dread is present joining so I think when you're showing up on these movies and all these different sessions that we do that's just a reflection of the devotion in your heart to be free of of fear to be free of of the sense of false responsibility or be free of the the the fear of loss and I know that comes up for you around your mother sometimes around Alan you know you're very transparent and forthright and that's actually what Jesus wants you to be is very transparent don't hide those thoughts away but search your mind and allow yourself to to allow those thoughts to arise in awareness and then and then give them over to the Holy Spirit because that's that's where the solution is it's in this moment with the Holy Spirit exactly I was just thinking actually Esther about the sleep and what what I found was I could have nightmares about violence and things being chased and stuff and it felt like quite relentless and so and I would pray before I go to bed and it would still be there like where's all this like coming from why what what's happening but what I've been doing is each time before I go to bed half an hour I just sit there and I just I just meditate and I give myself the full half an hour of just basically clearing clearing my mind and being peaceful and that clears a lot in that moment it's just like I'm feeling so present before I'm going to sleep and now and now okay now I'm going to to to rest so that's been helping me so maybe that might that might help you too just to really join join with the Lord for half an hour and then rest with him thank you Esther yeah I feel to go to Olga Jimenez can't hear you yeah we hear you now now look it's marina dieana la verdad que nos ha encantado participar una vez más con vosotros la verdad que bueno la película de ayer que vimos dar city nos encantó porque la habíamos We've seen it a few years ago, with the guide of films for the wake-up of David. But seeing it this time has been a long time. And seeing it this way has been, wow, like seeing it from a much wider filter, understanding much more the meaning and it has also helped me a few things. Because before watching the film, during the day, I had experienced, when I woke up in the morning before watching it, a lot of anxiety. A lot of anxiety had come out of the light, a lot of fear, a lot related to the work theme. Well, it is a projection in this sense, as I have experienced it during a season. But of course, understanding also that it is like a story that is repeated. I had woke up in the morning thinking, I feel like I'm trapped in the day of the sea, that every day it seems the same and the same situation repeats again and again. And it helped me to realize, I think I've come to the pattern of thinking, that I'm giving reality, which is what makes this situation repeat itself so many times. In the sense of the difficulty that I face, or that I have faced until these days, it has been with the difficulty of assuming that within the working environment, I have spent almost all the work that I have found, that is always within the circle of companions, to find maybe two companions, or a couple, three is to say, that they take the role of boss, among other things, of authority, and feel, regarding these companions, as a feeling of perhaps impotence, of the belief that they have the power, among other things, I am subjected, I mean, to feel victim to victimary. And yesterday it helped me to take a bit of consciousness in that sense, but sometimes I feel difficult when this situation occurs to me, or within, for example, also of an authority figure, as it can be a Hitler, that, of course, I understand that it is not personally that it is only me, because maybe its way of facing a situation of stress, or of a lot of speed in the work is for him, its way of letting go of fear is to scream, and speak, screaming, and say things screaming. The problem is that for a long time I have seen it as something personal, as something that screams at me, I feel bad, I live it from fear, from insecurity, and yet today, after having gone through precisely as what I was saying, a horrible night for me, of nightmares, nightmares, and not being able to practically sleep, curiously, I have dealt with a somewhat different attitude of relaxed, to see what happens, and the boss, however, the first thing he has told me today has been, thank you, Sorda, because you are very good at working with us, you have noticed, as part of him, a grateful attitude. But I want to take a bit of the feeling of reciprocity, if I receive from the other person a sample of love, I feel happy, if I do not receive from the other person a sample of acceptance, of gratitude, it is as if I sometimes feel like, not to say they don't love me, but something like that, I mean, a feeling of lack, of lack, and always, also the last thing to finish, that sometimes I have difficulties with the judgment, of myself, with respect to the rest of the people I sometimes meet, of feeling sometimes strange, in front of other people's eyes, or feeling like I don't have time to fit in in groups of many people, talking to people, usually connected, but there are times when I say maybe having a group, talking to them in a conversation is like I always think, oh, how strange, how strange, and I want to get rid of a bit of that judgment towards myself and of that feeling of feeling separated from the rest and of not living so much from the emotions giving that reality. That's it. Thank you very much, David. One more time, thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. Thank you Olga. When you were talking, I was thinking of this old jazz chaplain song Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. And how do you come into nothing left to lose, except by being a giver, like Ken was talking about, like, oh, I'm going to devote myself to God, and God is the ultimate giver, because God only gives. God doesn't even know what reciprocity is. And so our task as a human being is to give as God gives. The river just flows and flows and flows completely into the ocean and the flower gives away its perfume, its fragrance to the air freely, not concerned where the fragrance goes, where the wind takes the fragrance. So I think the human condition is the condition of lack, of need, and therefore of reciprocity, like I'll give my time to my work and my time to my boss, and then I must receive not only a paycheck, but treat me right. You know, you better treat me right. And just like your husband is saying, you know, like, please, can I have sleep at night? No, please, no walking and making noise on the ceiling. I don't ask for much, but I do ask for that. And so in my life, I just realized I wanted to get into the joy, the spirit of giving, where I would just give and shine my light and trust that everything I needed to shine my light would be given to me from the Holy Spirit. I wouldn't have to try to pull it from the Holy Spirit. It would be raining down on me freely, whatever I needed. And at first I just started to go to course groups and show up and be happy and let the spirit speak through me and give whatever gifts that I had to give. And then I got into such joy, I made a habit of giving, where I would just go and give and give and give. And the more I got into giving, I started to realize that this expectation I had of receiving something would disappear. It was just pure, like pure, the water was flowing so strong. It was just coming through like the Niagara Falls or Iguazu Falls. It was getting bigger and bigger. And then I remember one time I was down in Venezuela and I was in Caracas. And I was speaking at a Course in Miracles Center and they collected a little donation basket. People made some donations to help me from my flights and everything. But the woman who ran the center, she collected all the donations in a little envelope and she gave them to her daughter and she said, I trust you. Now hold on to this and then we'll give this to David when he goes, flies away. And her daughter, we went to lunch and her daughter put the envelope in her purse and then I think it was a Wendy's and she went to the baño and she left the purse at the table on the chair over the strap. And when she came back from the baño, the purse was gone. So when I finished the gathering, I didn't know any of this and I said, is there any more questions before I close the gathering? And she just burst into tears. She was just crying, crying so much. And she said, oh, I feel so bad. I feel so much guilt. And then she told the whole story of how she had lost all the money because she said I was foolish to leave the purse to go to the baño and everything. And then at the end, I told her, but the whole purpose of everything was just for this moment to forgive, to see that you have not lost anything and that this whole event was just for you to get in touch with this guilt and this hurt so that you could let it go now. And then she cried some more because we all cried because we saw that that was the purpose of the purse being taken was just to heal the mind. And when you start to develop this trust in the Holy Spirit to meet all your needs and to really sustain you, like lesson number 50, I am sustained by the love of God. Once you give yourself into that giving mode, giving and receiving the love of God, it grows into a habit so that you can then bless everything and everyone. And then you don't see the boss or the job as the provider of the income. You realize that my boss is and my job is not sustaining me. That I am a creation of God. And even if I believe I'm informed, I am still and I will shall always be sustained by this light and this love that is inside of me. And so I think it just comes from practice because Ken and I have had a lot of different jobs in the world and done counseling and all kinds of things. But in the end it was all just for one reason is to realize that truly I am sustained by the love of God and I can give as God gives because God is my creator. I can give in the same way. And then I see everything as an opportunity for that to be happy, to be joyful, to mainly give my attitude, but also whatever I can do. Like there was a time where I think we were in this room and I said, gee, all these, the spirits channeled all these books through me. And then Susan was sitting over there. She said, why don't you put all your books on the internet in Spanish for free as PDFs? Why don't you just give them all away? We all would. Well, that's a good idea. So we did. There was one book that I wasn't the publisher of and so we don't try to shock the publisher, but everything else we gave away, we put on as PDFs because it just felt like the generosity of God to have all these beautiful Spanish books put out. And that's just an example of following guidance though. That, you know, it all comes down to just step-by-step letting that desire to give and that desire to love expand in your heart, which I can tell you're both, that's what your joy is. Your joy is in the giving. So eventually that convinces us. We like, wow, this feels great. I want to do this with everything, with no exception. And eventually we do. And we feel the great joy of that. Yeah. Thank you so much for that. That's a beautiful question. And that's, you know, that's a question for me too. I so appreciate that because that's always the difficulty in it. It seems like love is being taken away from me, from this one. But yet this one loves me. And why do I keep losing this love? Why are these difficult situations where it doesn't seem loving? And I'm saying this because I want to reconfirm it in my own mind. And Jesus says to me, it always comes up. He says, it's either love or a call for love. And it's your call for love. And it's your opportunity to love. And as David shared on this, I am sustained by the love of God. And it's like, okay, I've got to come back to that lesson. I am sustained by the love of God. And then I'm going to extend from there. But if it's, oh, I've been hurt. Oh no, now I'm the victim of it. And now I'm making it real. So I'm confirming in my mind, no, this is my call for love. This is my love. How can I continuously give? So thank you. I join you in that prayer to remember we are sustained by the love of God. Thank you so much. Thank you all again. And next is Sabine. Can't hear you. No. Yeah, we can. Yeah. Okay. Okay. The internet connection is very unstable. So I might disappear, but okay. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what to say right now, but I'm overwhelming with gratitude. About everything which I experienced this weekend. Yesterday this. This packages whole package of the movie. Kirsten's meditation. God is the strength. In which I trust. And then afterwards. Zack's. Outstanding concert. This all was really breathtaking for me. And when I got up this morning, I was in such a joy. I was in such a happiness. I can't tell what exactly it was. There are many, many details in the movie. Many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many. I can't even talk, because this is very sad. My5 minutes. Neema and the very deep meditation. I had some visions and everything was, was so outstanding. This is the very, very, this is the part where I'm very grateful for. And it strengthens my trust in all the. back and also thank David very much for the encouragement to go on this spirit-guided journey last year. Because I met you in Chipala, Ayiyik. We went there and I was very, very hesitant of going to Peru. I just felt inspired also from one of your posts on Facebook the year before that you wanted to encourage people to go on a spirit-guided tour through South America and this spoke to me immediately. So I had planned nothing only to stay a couple of weeks in Mexico and then everything was open. And when we met this day last January in this food called I think of the Danish bakery there were some people who encouraged me out okay go and see Jeff because I had an invitation of Jeff Wilbur to come to Peru and visit Machu Picchu which was very attractive but then when I came back from the Pacific Ocean I said no no no no no more traveling I'm too frightened I don't do this and then I was open to receive signals and prompts and in this particular moment when I made the decision not to go on any more travels two emails from Jeff arrived we are expecting you come to Peru and this is what I did preparing to be there for two weeks and I'm still here almost here and this was such a breathtaking journey of unwinding my identity of unwinding my fear of trust trust trust in everything of course I had the support of mighty companions at the beginning there were there was the temptation to go back to Germany when they offered a repatriation flight from the German government in the fourth four weeks but I had the clear feeling no I do not want to go back but I had so much fear in me but in the end I'm still here and it was a breathtaking really breathtaking beyond the words journey and it still is it still is and I'm really really deeply touched now telling this and you see there is a poster in the background which Jeff and Bego gave to me at Christmas this means camina este mundo so walk this world and this is exactly what I'm doing and yeah but still now what's coming up right now it's kind of fear because I'm following what my friends in Germany and Europe are going through and it's more and more my impression I don't want to go back there at least not right now I don't want to take the vaccine I don't want to take a test I don't want to be in quarantine and I have and I'm living the happiest life I've ever lived the happiest time I've ever lived here without expecting this I mean I have two little dogs of the neighbors who adopted me and we are going into the mountains every day they are very excited to have me here and many other friends so but then there is still this fear oh will I ever be able to go back I've everything was unplanned there was still my car my my apartment and everything is still there some friends are taking care of it but will now comes the doubt will I just will I just sell everything and stay here or will I ever be able to go home and what will the conditions be like this is the only concern but now I know that God is the strength in which I in which I trust I know that but still there is this uncertainty of course it's coming up sometimes a little bit more sometimes a little bit less so but still I want to express this here this fear this fear because I lost I didn't lose anything actually but it's sometimes a feeling of lost my identity my friends in Germany my home so to speak whatever home means I have now rented a little casita I'm very happy with all this and I'm in an environment I mean I'm in paradise so to speak we have everything here in the sacred valley so it's nothing missing but there's still this fear this fear of ever being of being ever able to go back and even temporarily to go back to my family thank you thank you for listening yeah well you know there's a workbook lesson where Jesus talks about you know perhaps you think you can can go back to your even to your childhood and he said it's just part of a distorted past that never happened it fits perfect with the the dark city movie the message there and so being you're such a witness for the miracle I remember having a video call with you when you were just back at your apartment in Germany and you had just retired and you're talking to me saying I don't know what I'm going to do with myself now and and I said oh this is going to be all kinds of things coming your way and then you know you came over to the monastery and you came down and when we were in that food court a year ago I remember you did have a little bit of hesitation about Peru you were drawn down there but you had a little hesitation and then the songs that were playing on the speakers above us started giving you signs a friend showed up another friend and said oh Peru I I used to go down there a lot I can I can tell you where to go and I'll tell you about the altitude and and I was just sitting there laughing because I thought looking at you like what do you want I mean my gosh the songs on the radio the two guys have just showed up to join us at the table with with Sava and I knew and and I thought here it is you're you're in the miracle you're just totally being given everything and everything that you could ever want you were giving like it was so telegraph for you and then even to be down there in the Sacred Valley you know you you really it's just a temptation to to kind of look back even to Germany at this point because the spirit will provide everything and if if you are ever to go back and handle your car an apartment or whatever that will be arranged too just as just as you're going to to Peru was arranged so I think you can just really sit back and enjoy the ride enjoy the adventure and you're a beautiful witness for following instead of just sitting in your apartment in Germany and trying to fiddling your fingers and trying to figure out what to do with your retirement you've gone on an adventure and instead of Hector and the pursuit of happiness it's Sabine and the pursuit of happiness and I think your journey is even happier than Hector Hector wins for some pretty wild things but you're going through miracle after miracle so your your journal would be inspiring for anybody to read if you had a journal so thank you Sabine thank you I'm so grateful for the Sabines in my life I met two two Sabines from Germany and both of them are shooting off like skyrockets for God thank you thank you Sabine and I will now unmute Hope Russ hello hello you hear me yes yeah hi hi hi I never had the courage to do this before so I think I just want to very very quickly just tell you David that a long time ago I flew into your retreat in Kentucky in the middle of a blizzard and I've always wanted to tell you that I did that but I never had the courage at the retreat so I've seen you at to say that for what it's worth and mostly so many miracles mostly thank you thank you thank you thank you and my my life has become a complete devotion to God through Jesus and you and the Course and Holy Spirit there's um everything everything is up now for healing no exceptions and I just I just wanted to when I really love all my mighty companions so grateful for you all and I'll just I'll just share one more thing very briefly um as I was watching the movie yesterday I could so relate to the level of trust and and letting go um that is needed for that complete freedom and um sometimes the way my meditation works and my mind works I see these little video clips of the story of hope and sometimes you know she's so I can see this dramatic saga oh I'm going to die someday and my family won't be there and you don't even care you're giving me up and letting me go and so it's just so crazy that as soon as I see oh my god you know the ego is a liar and this is another story and watching John having to let go of everything even who he thinks uh who is it Emily or Anna which whatever but that level of letting go of everything and then I really loved what you said Kenneth the only thing that excites you now is god that's beautiful that's hope fulfilled that's beautiful thank you thank you hope and now I will unmute mother uh The truth is that I didn't understand what it was, but I trusted it, and I was very sure that I was watching the movie with this company, which was Jesus through David, and it was very, very liberating to be able to see. Normally I am very, very scared. In fact, right now, before speaking, I ask Jesus to speak for me, speak for me, because I am very nervous in my heart. But... There were so many things in the movie that the most beautiful thing was that it was just what I was needing. I was needing to know that my fear of facing the ego in heavier things for me, there is nothing, there is nothing. I mean, how he had the strength, I had the strength, how the conviction that there was something else, and for me it was very encouraging, very liberating, and it was beautiful. With respect to the movie, and with respect to the meditation, it was beautiful. Since she started talking, I was crying, crying, crying, and there was a moment when I was already in the meditation, when I started to feel many, many desire to cry, but I started to feel my whole body warm, warm, well, I felt my ears warm, warm, and I was crying, crying, crying, but there was a moment when I could stop and I started to feel so, so much peace, it was something beautiful, beautiful. The music was precious to me, precious, precious, I mean, thousands of gifts, and I am very, very grateful. Today in the morning I woke up and I wanted to enter, they had said they were going to start in Europe, well, I didn't know how to enter, I don't know if you can, because I'm already in Mexico, I don't know. I wanted to enter because I still don't understand much English, but I've seen so many videos of David, that I love English, and it was another of the beautiful gifts that came to me in March, that I was trying to apply in the course because it was closed, it had nothing more to do, so someone shared in one of the international groups of UCM, who are on WhatsApp, someone shared David, and from there I said, I'm here, it's a beautiful gift for me, first of all, my love for Jesus, but then learning the English language in something that fascinates me, it was a very big gift, then, on the other hand, I don't know, sometimes I think, I want to talk a lot, and I tell my fellow students, and I think that they always want to talk a lot, but no, no, it's that I really feel very, very, normally I'm very effusive, but now I feel more, I feel more, I feel more, I feel more, I feel happier, and I share, and I remember that I saw one of so many videos that David said, that there was a person when the towers fell, and that that person was very happy, very happy, but that he saw someone, someone who was sad, and then he felt bad about being so happy, so that reminds me that I don't have to feel bad about being so happy, he says that on the contrary, that's like a light that can somehow attract my loved ones, my fellow students, especially my fellow students that I love so much, and then thank you very much, thank you, thank you, thank you, I love you very much, thank you David for everything, your love, thank you very much, thank you. Best things to you and blessings to your dog, the chorus. Beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. And now I will unmute Corey B. Hi. Hey Corey. Hi Corey. Good to be here. Hi. You know what you were saying about Watson brought up a lot. My girlfriend died two years ago so I kind of had a question about, you know, her, her body seems to be gone. How should I think of, I feel like I have to have an image of her in some way, or a way to think about her, maybe in a more eternal sense. But it seems like that's too abstract for me at times. And I realize that what I'm doing is making an idol of her. And it's the attraction to that, that is sort of a source of the pain, the sense of loss. But I sort of feel stuck there a little bit, or a little afraid to go deeper into it. The movies certainly helped stir up a lot of that, that I let go of it eventually, when I'm not afraid, or less afraid, you know. So yeah, I was just wondering what you could say to that. And thank you. Thank you, Corey. Yeah. Well, I always come back to the, that the loving thoughts are true and that all of your, all of the loving thoughts have been saved for you in a purified version of the past. So, when you think of your girlfriend, I think that any kind of sadness or feeling of missing comes from a belief in communication being limited to the body. There are many stories and movies, even of little children who have imaginary friends, and they talk with them, and they laugh with them, and they share their heart with them. And they can't be convinced that they're not there. They're so sure they're there that they always talk. We even have a movie in our collection, Movie Watcher's Guide, they imagine that with the little girl with Eddie Murphy's her father. But she's got her imaginary friends and she gets guidance from them for her father, even what he's supposed to do with his business and his life. And he becomes a believer. He wants the magic blanket that she goes under all the time because it touches and changes his life. And the belief that the communication with our loved ones is limited to the body is, again, Jesus does find these things laughable. He said, if you knew the power of your mind and the power of your thoughts, and that communication goes on and on and on forever and ever, and is not limited to these time-space ideas, he says, you would laugh with me. You would feel the glory of that. And so I feel like that's what the lesson is with your girlfriend who's passed on is just opening to feel that love and feel that that love goes on and on and that you can communicate with her and that you are strengthening love by communicating the love that you feel. Sometimes I meet people too who will tell me, oh, my loved one is in a coma in the hospital and I'll say, well, don't hold back. And they can still hear every word that you say and they see everything that you see. And it's only your belief of the communication being limited to the body and to the brain and to the animation of the body and the brain activity. And they're all just beliefs and you can fully give your heart. And oftentimes I've counseled many people over these last 20 years when they have a heartache about that their partner died before they could really say that they love them or share what was on their heart. I'll just say, oh, they can hear you right now. There's nothing holding you back just because their body passed away, the communication is truly unlimited. And even in the field of psychology at both Kenneth and I were aware of and worked in or Paris psychology. Now they talk about, you know, telepathy and precognition and they've got a whole field of beautiful studies that really just are demonstrations that communication is not limited to the body at all or not even limited to words. There's quite a lot of experiments that are showing the power of our thoughts and our feelings to extend and to radiate. So we're just on the cutting edge of all kinds of witnesses of true communication, I call it. And that's what I would share with you is that you feel that love in your heart and just keep giving it away. And don't give into that ego belief that somehow it won't be felt or received by your beloved girlfriend, you know, that you can still, she's with you now. She's with us now. And she's just so happy and cheering you on and loving you that I think that's the thing to really feel. Allow yourself to feel that. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. And now I will unmute Tina. Hi. Ah, Jesus. I share with two friends who said before that there is something like this in the heart, I receive. My heart is tuff, tuff, tuff. It's here, right? But there was a bigger force that made me leave my hand up. And the theme is love, isn't it? That's always permeating everything. When I met David, when I met David at the house, besides the chaos, I met David and Paulinha here in Brazil. I met Juliana. And I look like this, my God, how much love is everyone showing me love. I want it. I love it all. So I started reading all the books, videos, anyway, I entered a group of lovers and the theme that I bring like this, I even asked myself. In the last instance, Dina, speaking here, it's not the forgiveness, you are no longer the love. It's not a job that you are going to do with Jesus, to take away obstacles, to what you are already. It's not patience, it's trust. I say no, it's not. But I want to say it for the meeting. Even when David and I talked about the water falling, I said, so I enter the water. I receive this water too, isn't it? So what catches me, the question of love, in personal history, which, thanks to God, Jesus says, is the history of a child who has never existed. Wonderful, isn't it? And it's also very comforting when I heard Jesus say so clearly, look for and never find. So, look for and never find here, in the space, no, no, no, looking for a girl like that, intelligent, study this. You are a lot of things, always looking for love. And at a certain moment I looked to the world and saw everyone looking for love. Oh my God, behind the whole political world, behind the person. Money, I don't know, I started to see it as a request for love, isn't it? So, on the one hand, I was happy to look for and never find. Oh my God, it's an idol, it's an idol. I observed the history in my mind, and I always saw an idol. Or I had a very strong reference of the love of my mother, of looking, looking at the lamentation. It seemed that I knew what the sky was, then there was a abrupt cut, and it seemed that I knew the hell. And all the personal history of the character was a little to solve this conflict of a year and 11 months, right? And then I went through everything, I can think of the TQ since I have the semilagres, I had psychotherapies, N, even the NDR, which is Neuronal, anyway, wonderful. It released a lot of things that I don't need to load, isn't it? So, wonderful that you have a response now, look for and never find. And look for and find now. Wonderful, but it takes me here, it seems, that I will take this to the grave of the illusion. And I'm not feeling this love that I am. Then I was like this, saying, but I am like this, I am happy, you know? And there is a good flow like this, but there is a time that, from dawn to yesterday, from yesterday to today, I woke up with that thing in the heart of a fault, I said, what is the fault? I am the love, I am with Jesus, you know? Anyway, it was the day that I decided to say to Jesus, you know? And there is a mind like this, right? That I hear this voice, of course, but I have a lot of will, I call. Jesus, look, I want to see the fear that we have of love. Because if the whole problem was that I was afraid of love in the first place, then I want to see it. You don't know that I am courageous, right? I saw the very audacious ego, I am very courageous. I don't have the fear of anything, I have already passed. I have already passed through the line of sanity and madness. And then I'm saying that it's all insane. So come on, show me the fear of love for me to go through it. I thought it was a little like that, right? And I'm going to see the love, I'm going to feel the love. I asked for it, I forgot. At a certain night, I slept and I had a very fast sound, like if it were a smoke, the world would be some little birds, like that. Feeling slow, you know? And in the dream, I closed the dream, I closed the dream, I opened this thing like a curtain, and then I even closed the dream. When it was the other day, I said, Jesus, what was that? What dream is this? So amazed that I even cancel the dream. Then I opened, as David teaches, in the oracle, the course, and fell on the page of the veil. And then I understood that Jesus is not saying that we are going to go through the fear. We are going to forgive so much the world, we are going to remember so much that we are the love, that it will come a time when I will look at something wrong, but I'm at home, I'm here, benign, loving, just seeing the sanity of the dream. Isn't it that I'm going to go through it? I'm going to contemplate, right? Then I said, oh my God, I understood. There is nothing for me to go through the madness, right? Then I said, how do I do this, Jesus? I'm so amazed with this desire to feel a love, this is a thing, right? I'm impressed, I don't know if I'm impressed. Then I opened the lesson that came, it was the forgiveness, it is the key to happiness. And I said, oh Jesus, that's it, Jesus, Jesus is saying, girl, stop wanting me. No, he's not going to say like that. And you have to go slowly, slowly. What a crazy love. Then when it was, then it was fine, then it was fine. I already know why I don't feel love. I already know. It's because I'm finding my personal story very special, I'm still trying. I have to have love for these little stories here. Very special, very full of life and death, of madness and sanity, very close to what it had, right? I was afraid of being a fool, right? Of being nothing. I went through it in therapy. Being a fool. Being a fool, right? The good thing is that's it. Then I said, oh, I think I'm finding my story very special. Oh, it's one more thing that made me open up now, but don't lower your hand. First of all, I saw that the theme is love, right? And I thought, well, who is it now that I'm going to talk about it? And the other one, too, David, is because, like this, I think I entered a trap, at least a character in Dina. Now I'm going to make you do it. In the Dina Parable. With you, Dina. In the Dina Parable. I'm going to ask you to lend me your story. I'll give you your past, not your future. Your story. In the Dina Parable. In the Parable. I created something to look for. Love is fear. Love, you know? A trap. It seems that I say it's good to look for to keep the illusion, but I don't find it that love is dangerous. So I sometimes had some personal experiences of freezing the body of fear, right? Intimidity was threatening, and I turned a bar of ice. So I went through, but I said, what are the defenses of the ego, of sanity in front of a God so powerful, of such a great love that I am? That's nothing. What the hell is taking me? I don't have confidence. Yeah. I think I'm still separated, I don't hear well the voice, but there is intuition, right? And when it was yesterday in the movie, I identified with that scene that he was hitting things from the thick wall, right? Thick wall. Today in the morning that came. I was meditating and saw that thick wall. To get out of that thick place. Then I made the walls more thick. Now I'm a thin wall. It's like you're ready. Take this whole story. Forget this illusion. Forget this special sound, this story with the guy who has something attractive in it. But it was the mother's eye, you know? I said, stay with the eye, I mean to me. I don't know if it was the spirit, I'm myself, I don't know. Then I'm stuck with the mother's eye that was the person, that the eye, but showed me how the sky was. Maybe I was missing the sky looking at her eyes. That's it. I wanted to hear you two about this theme, more intimately, because I know that the answer is in the forgiveness and in the spirit, but I wanted to see something more intimate. Thank you. Thank you very much. Beautiful. We do like talking about parables. And the parable of Dina and David and Ken, it can be kind of funny parable when we see it for what it is. And that's what you were talking about, Ken at the beginning, that when we don't try to prop up the story anymore or don't try to make it into something, we become so happy. And even Jesus is a great example of that. He would just talk in parables when he was out teaching. He would do one parable after the next, after the next, after the next, because he wasn't identified with any of it. Everything, the whole world was a parable for Jesus, just the story. And that's how we become so happy. So very happy is just to start to see everything in that way. And so thank you for giving yourself permission to do that, because just saying, I'm going to talk as David talks here, that we could all feel the laughter. We could see the big, huge smile on your face. We could feel the laughter and feel the joy that comes from that miracle. So thank you, Dina. Thank you for sharing the miracle with us. We all felt it. We all felt it all over the world. We all felt it. Thank you, Dina. Yeah, there is a lot of people who have raised their hands. And also there is questions on the chat. So I would encourage you to really get to the heart of what you want to ask or what you want to share. And so everybody can have a chance. And I would like to go to Mexico co-living and maybe there is a Virginia there. Virginia. Virginia. That's right. You're on the list. Yep, she's on the list. Your name has been called. You have been cold-full. Okay. Hola a todos. Bueno, yo prefiero en español. Y es gracioso porque Ken me invitó a compartir. But no sabía si tenía que me levantar la mano. Entonces solo pedí que lo dejara muy obvio. Y creo que Sabín levantó la mano por mí. Y en realidad yo mandé un mail de gratitud a todos en la comunidad. A mis compañeros en la casa. Los que están ahora y bueno compartirles el milagro que sentía estos días. En mi mente. Bueno con Charlie pasamos 11 y esta semana mientras salimos a correr llegaron a mi mente las palabras de el regalo es la docilidad. Y en ese momento reconociendo que era un pensamiento Jesús me la haría y como en este el si se había transformado un si de la complacencia había quedado atrás un si de sacrificio un si muy gracioso que decía si pero en verdad no quiero hasta que finalmente apareció un si tan descansado tan liviano en el que podía simplemente confiar y podía ver como toda esta rebeldía toda esta idea de defender a mi mucha creencia en dominación manipulación sometimiento finalmente se habían corrido y podía simplemente descansar en el si siento mucha gratitud no me alcanzan las palabras sinceramente no entiendo nada de lo que pasó pero me siento mucho más liviana mientras que sentía esta explicación la sensación de que iba a poder escuchar mucho mejor despejado que algo ya no se estaba defendiendo así que gracias a todos David, Francis, thank you thank you thank you for your devotion just just as Sabine from Germany we have two Sabines that have also been devoted to go wherever Jesus would have them go and Sabine from Germany and Sabine from Germany and Sabine from Germany she went down to Peru and Jesus had her there for a year and here Jesus has had you in Mexico, you and Charlie for 11, 10, 11 months and you've just Jesus used the pandemic to say stay stay stay like a horse you were like a horse in the gate ready to go and Jesus had stay but you and Charlie, Sabine have transformed so much just through your willingness and your devotion and also Sabine you have another Sabine there too who's hung in wherever Jesus would send her just to be so devoted to follow and that's where the happiness comes from just from the service and devotion to really follow your heart and thank you we thank you for blessing us so many blessings so many blessings thank you so much for everything yeah it's beautiful for me to see everything that you went through so truly I feel honoured to be a part of that yeah it's very touching I just feel so grateful your lessons and my lessons and I thank you for sticking through it with me this is tough this is a tough ride at times and you kept coming and you kept coming and that's what it's going to take and so yeah thank you as I said you came to rescue me so so thank you so much for your devotion and your dedication and yeah for the journey and I'm with you all the way thank you I will now unmute Beatriz hi Beatriz I'm so grateful baby there's so much love here at this moment now not only the one that you expand to us but the one that I'm receiving from all of you who are here from all of you who are sharing I feel so identified with each of you and you I can feel the unity the same fears that only one is the fear and the guilt of having separated that we have divided and divided and divided yesterday I walked 16 days at home confined by covid and when I arrived at a park everything was beautiful and my feet were hot to walk and I said I'm going to take the boots and the socks and I'm going to enjoy this socks walking and I did it I was walking, I felt the cool of the grass and I felt how those flowers and those grass were there as you say baby walking without asking for anything to change they were there for me but at that moment of happiness I was smoking I was coming to the Evo they were coming and and if I paint something that stings me that stings me or if there is a bug that stings me or if there is a dog poop and I stain my feet and at the moment I realized that all that was provoking in my mind so as not to allow me that happiness that a few seconds ago I was enjoying how with such a simple thing I was inventing some illusions that were not even happening to take me to enjoy that moment how do we leave our own fear that those are the fears that I receive and share of each of you of fear of the loss of death of a person who wants a couple of feeling alone I want to see and I just want to see the truth and discern and although those moments of fear come that they are less and less that they are more and more although they are shadows they are not dark shadows and at this moment I thank you all because it is a moment of darkness thank you for this event David thank you I love you all thank you Beatrice thank you that's beautiful that feels that is almost the note, the keynote to end our session with a gratitude just a gratitude a bursting gratitude that we feel in our hearts for all of your devotion and your participation and your willingness to forgive to let go of all else we love doing this it was a joy for us to come together now I think you really have flipped Ken's program now from a stream to now it's going to be an interactive flow he's going to get the dust off the zoom go zooming for God at the end of my show I always say let's expect miracles and that's the answer to everything so there is no problem as we spoke about that cannot be handled so to everyone let's expect miracles and much love to you all thank you so much all for sharing thank you everyone for this whole retreat, beautiful, thank you many blessings and love wow wow look at all that love Patrick it's done thank you thank you yeah yeah thank you everybody for a very very deep session I just want to announce that next weekend we have an online retreat a holy relationship retreat and there is a first-timer discount so if you've never been on an online retreat with David and the Living Miracles next weekend would be a fantastic opportunity and you can get a discount if it's the first time and now there will be a break for two hours and then there will be a music concert and I hope you will see each other there and very very very happy break here and see you soon again goodbye