 All right. Let's get started. Call the meeting to order is. Oh, there's Katie. Okay. Gotcha. All right. Is there any public comment for items? Not on the agenda. Addition or changes to the agenda. Denise, I had one thing I wanted to say. Yes, ma'am. As many of you saw. David Delcore wrote a little piece on me. I just wanted to tell him I wasn't too happy. And he spelled my name wrong. Okay. Thank you. All right. Are there. Additions of changes to the agenda. Is Jay. Is Jay on. Not yet. I don't see him. He was supposed to be first up to. Talk to us about the Truman health order. I know sometimes he has a hard time connecting. If he's trying to connect from his phone. Let me give him. Let me call his house real quick. Other than that, how is everybody? I'm good. Hi. Who's Pat. We have a last name on Pat. Is that a. Cliff, is that a. Is that a phone or an internet connection they're trying to do. It's internet. I'll see if I can get their full name. I wonder if that is somehow Jay. In cognitive. I'm trying Jay's cell phone because he didn't answer his own phone. If whoever is Pat can hear us, can you. Tell us who. Give us your last name or. If you're. Somebody else. Or respond via chat. I just sent Pat to chat. I can do a prompt as well. Hi, Pat. Say what. Pat is having audio issues. Don't have a camera. No. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. Hey, Jay. This is Denise. Select boards waiting for you to zoom in. So we can do the. Review of your final inspection report. All right. Thanks. All right. So Pat is audio problems. Sounds like. So Pat isn't anything to do with. Jay trying to sign on then. No. Okay. I love. Technology. Hi, Bob. Well, hello. How are you? I'm doing fine for a month. Well, that's good. Glad to hear it. I haven't fallen down yet this year skiing. Oh, is that a normal event that you'd like to do is to fall down? No, no, I'm heading for my ninth time up at the mountain. Oh, make it through the whole year without falling. That would be good. Yeah, probably would. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm not sure what happened to Jay. And. We're waiting for Sharon to come back on. So we can. Get the rest of the agenda going. I'm just trying to see if there's really nothing we can do. While we're waiting. So I'm sorry. Thank you for your patience. Hi, babe. Aaron's coming on board. Okay. Hey, Sharon. She has an audio delay. It should be connected shortly. Now she has audio. Hi, Sharon. Oh, hey, Sharon. Jay never arrived for the meeting. Maybe he's having technical difficulties or is out on a call or something. So we're going to get started on the rest of the agenda. I don't see Toby. So I assume there's no. Operations manager updates. And up next is. The road commissioner. And on December, I think it was December 28. We started the process to review a curb cut application for. Charlotte. Hannah Bassett and Scott Bassett. And we had some questions. And Alfred was going to meet with the contractor and. The applicants and get back to us with some information on. Some follow up information. You had some. Ideas Alfred that you wanted to explore with. I guess. I forget who the contractor was. Is it women's stairs, maybe. Willie stairs. Yes. Okay. So did you have a chance to. Meet on site and get your questions answered? Yes. Yes. I met with him last week. I believe it was. And went over my concerns and my requirements. And he was totally acceptable to that. Okay. So the requirements are a culvert. Where the driveway meets the road. 15 inch culvert. Where the driveway meets the road. Yep. Isn't that how it usually is? Well, yes, but not every curb cut requires a culvert. Okay. So I would like to someday think that we should require every. Every curb cut to have a culvert, but we're not there yet. Right. Okay. So 15 inch culvert where the driveway meets the road. Yeah. And then there, there's a, another required culvert that is out of our right away. In order to cross a brook with their driveway. So I want them to stone line. Wait a second. Another required culvert. That's not in the right away. Right. It's not my requirement. There's a brook that crosses. Where they want to put the driveway. So they have to install that culvert regardless. Okay. What size culvert is that? That I don't know. That's for them to determine. Oh, okay. Because it's out of our right away. And we don't have jurisdiction there. So I'm assuming they'll probably put an 18 inch culvert, but it's not, that's not part of the curb cut. I'm just referencing that. I'm just referencing that culvert. Because water is going to come out of that culvert and come down to the road. And into one of, one of our culverts. Cross culvert. So I'm asking them to stone line it between those two culverts. To, to. Prevent erosion. The stone line it between the. Town culvert. And the property. And the property. Yeah. Or upper culvert, whichever you have, you want to. Describe it. Okay. Anything else? No, everything else passes. The site distance is fine. Everything else is, is just fine. There is. They do have to, which every curb cut does. Has to follow the. A 20s. A 76. From the state. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever the. The V trans. The V trans standards is what they are. Right. Right. B 71. Yeah. B 71. So they have to follow that. Same as every, every curb cut. And it should go without saying. Now we. At the meeting on the 28. About the cost. There is no cost because. Well, the cost is going to be all. On theirs. I was thinking before I talked to the car. Contractor, I was thinking we would have to move our culvert. Our town. But with the discussion, we're not moving our culvers. So there'll be no cost to the town. Oh, okay. It's all, it's all on them. All the conditions are their expense. So we won't be installing the 15 inch culvert where the driveway meets the road. That's correct. That's the contractor. Yeah. So be no cost to install by. Contractor no cost to town. And do the application. Do the application. Have a conversation with him. Just to prep and everything up. And. Because he won't be doing it obviously until spring. Right. So he'll call me or I'll. I'll track him down, whatever. And we'll. We'll talk to him. Yeah. Yeah. I actually told him to let me know when he starts and I can come and. Have a conversation with him. Just to prep and everything up. And. Because he won't be doing it obviously until spring. Right. I'll track him down, whatever. And we'll. We will have a discussion at that point. Okay. Does anybody on the board have any other questions. Comments. No. Oh, I think you covered it. Thank you. Okay. So what I'm hearing. And. We'll make a motion to approve. The hand of passage. And I don't have the address right in front of me, but I'll find it and put it on the. Permit. To approve a 15 inch culvert. Where the driveway meets the road to be installed by the contractor with no cost to the town. The road commissioner will meet the contractor on site. The answer any further questions as needed. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It is not installed. It is not in the town's right away. But it needs to be installed across the brook and the. Property in between the two culverts needs to be stonewine to help with erosion control. And Alfred has confirmed that the site distances. From to access the driveway are all. All right. But that the applicants need to meet the V trans V 71 standards. For installing the culvert. Really long motion. There a second. I would be willing to second, but I'd like to propose a friendly amendment. Yes. We authorized the select board chair to sign on behalf of the select board. Oh, okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Are you ready to vote? All right. Rose. Hi. Sharon. Hi. Hi. And I'm an eye. So. I'll try to get that out to. Charlotte and Scott this week. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you for your patience. And thank you, Alfie. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Take care. Thank you. Thank you. Alfred, did you have any updates on. Positions. Yes. I got. You don't have to get into names because we're not an executive session, but. Right. Well, the, the part-time employee that I was. That I had in for a drug screen. Has come back negative. So he is all set, ready to go. Just need to talk to you. The select board about. Compensation. What are we paying them? Oh, okay. Um, That's something we should do an exact. Yeah, we shouldn't do that. I mean, you don't have to stick around for executive session. We can do it at the end of the meeting and let you know. Okay. Or we could call Alfred. Yeah. We can call you when we're ready to go into executive session. If you want. Yeah. That's fine. Should we call your house? Yes. For the evening. Yes. Okay. We'll do that. Cliff. Yeah. I'll be just quick question. Any significant changes from what we discussed last time around. Uh, nothing for the part-time position. No. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. There has been some. Changes on the full time. We can talk about that when we go into executive session then. Okay. Okay. Thanks, Alfie. So you're done with me. Well, no, I just want to ask you, is there anything else you want to. Um, Make us aware of. Uh, that's not executive session material. Right. Uh, no, we are, we're down to three guys right now. So, um, you know, so far we've been keeping up, but we've had a couple of days of decent weather. So. Yeah. Um, So I see your ad on the front porch forum. Asking for forgiveness from the, from the residents. Ahead of time. And that's good, but. Yeah. We're with the three of us, we're going to do the best we can. We've kind of switched up the roots again. Um, I'm taking the majority of two of them. Um, Um, I think we're going to have to, um, We're going to have to, um, Just to keep at least the bus routes passable. Yeah. For the next couple of days until we can get our part time to start. Okay. Sounds good. We appreciate it. Uh, yeah, other than that, everything seems to be working fine. Craig, you had a comment. Just want to say thanks, Alfie. As always. Um, things have seemed really smooth. But I guess there's been no freezing rain. So, um, I'm impressed by the plowing and sanding and how many times you're going by my house. So, um, thank you. You're welcome. Thanks, Craig. We always appreciate positive feedback. All right, Alfred, I'll give you a call when we're ready to go in executive session. Okay. Sounds great. Thank you. Yeah, you bet. Um, is Judy on. So, um, In light of COVID and the changes to town meeting and everything. Um, we need to vote. To approve that all that ballots be mailed to all the registered voters. And that's per, um, I think it's actually 162 is part of that legislation. And it was just recently updated to allow towns to vote. Um, To mail ballots to all of the registered voters. And Judy's been working with the other town clerks. And the school district. And I guess all of the towns are in sync except for the town of Berlin. They're going to do theirs a little differently, but apparently they can. They can do that. Um, That we approve the mailing of all ballots. The town meeting. 20. March. When is it March? Third or March 2nd. 2021. To all the registered voters in town. And as an aside to that. The funding. Or the payment to do that is going to be funded through. COVID money that the legislature has received. So I think that's a good point. Thank you. Thank you for clarifying that, Denise. I'll second. Okay. Is there any further discussion or questions? All right. Are you ready to vote? Select board rose. Hi. I'm an eye. Hi. And Sharon. Hi. Great. Excellent. Um, thank you. Craig and Carolyn for being patient and presenting the. I appreciate your patience as we were working on. Multiple different things to try to get the budget. Done. And thank you for not increasing the amount. Of course. Yeah. Thank you. Uh, thank you for already having approved us to be on the warning. That's, um, you know, we're really appreciative of that. And, um, Yeah. So. Um, Where do I start? Okay. So, uh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We're here obviously. And understatement of the century. Uh, so throughout the pandemic, uh, the library has been, um, you know, forcibly closed down for, uh, for a great portion of the year, we were able to open up for some in-person services. Uh, over the summer. Otherwise we have been open for curbside service. Um, and we've been doing a lot of, um, we've been doing a lot of, um, we've been doing a lot of books and materials and interlibrary loan books from other libraries. Um, you, we've load out thousands and thousands and thousands of them at this point. It's better. We've been doing a pretty hop in business still, which is really. Yeah. Right. You know, out of our lobby. So people come in and they, um, either the side lobby or the front lobby, depending on their ability, the side lobby is ADA accessible. Uh, and so people pick up books on site or they pick them up on site or they pick them up on site or they pick them up on site. Um, and so that's been, that's been hopping right along. And that kind of, that took the place of the services that we did offer for outreach in daycares. All of our daycare story times and pre-school story times in, in the pre-schools out in our communities. Those were all suspended as of last spring. So we have, um, put this, this town delivery service in place for the duration to make up for that. Uh, the, I'm just checking my notes. Um, So at this point, since about, thanks for that. Um, I'm just checking my notes. Um, so at this point, since about, Thanksgiving, we've been back to this curbside service only model. Um, where previously we were letting people in to use the public bathrooms and public computers. Uh, and then we're hopeful. You know, I, I echo, I echo the governor a little bit and that we don't want to set. Um, we don't want to set benchmarks because once you set a benchmark, it becomes gospel. I've been watching all of his press conferences and he said that in one of the last ones. Uh, and that's, and that's true for the library as well in a way. Uh, although at this point, I will say we're, we're waiting for this multi household band to end. And then we're, that's when we're going to talk about letting people back in. Um, at least part of the building and our hope through all of this, um, was not to fluctuate our services too much to try to stay as steady as we possibly could. Uh, and not yo-yo because the danger in that is then people don't know what to expect ever. And they don't know how to approach the library. They don't know what services they can access. So we've tried to kind of pick these. Um, it kind of pick a level of service and hold it. Uh, and so our hope is that when we can start opening back up to having people in the building again, that at that point we'll see thing with vaccinations and with, um, you know, warmer weather coming someday that we'll be able to, to remain at that level and then consistently build up towards being more, uh, more and more open and we won't have to open and close and open and close. Uh, yeah. We're in. Calis are there. Sites for the books. Is there maple corner? There's me. Yep. Maple corner and adamant. Yep. At the co-op. Okay. Yep. Uh, actually if I can share. Yeah. I think I can share screen. Oh no, I can't. That's okay. Um, if you want to find those sites on, if you go to the Kellogg Hubbard library website. Yeah. Screen share now, Carolyn. Oh, cool. I'll show it to you then. So on our, so here's our website. Uh, so if you go over to outreach in the menu. Uh, you can see community curbside delivery schedule. So there, so you can see our sites there. Uh, and the dates and times when our outreach librarian is there. And so what you do, you, when you call up to place a hold, or if you, um, or if you place a hold online, you just, uh, you just email us. You email us or call us and say, Oh, I'd actually like to pick up my books at maple corner and then we say, okay, we're going to be out there next on such and such a date and time. And then we leave them on the, on the bookshelf at the back of like, at the back of the co-op, or there's a bookshelf in front of maple corner in front of the store. Okay. And we had a few people. We had a significant number of people take us up on that as well, actually. And maple corner and, um, uh, and the co-op are, are, I think they're, those are actually our most popular. I'm thinking back because I, I, I've been the one to do some of this when our outreach librarian has been out and those are our most popular spots, which is really nice. So there's no site in East. There isn't, if there's a good spot for one, I would be perfectly willing to add it though. Okay. I might talk to you separately. Yeah. Yeah. I'll send you a separate email. Good. Yeah. That sounds good. The other thing that has been very popular this year, or it has been the, the, the strongest emerging trend as libraries have had to modify their services, our digital services. Uh, and so we already had ebooks and audio books. And that's here with the Libby app and all of our pages with, uh, with services from signing up for a library card to, uh, requesting interlibrations. Uh, everything has instructions. So you're going to see general information about the service. So in this case, uh, the Libby app. And then there is, there are written instructions. And then there is a video that our head circulation library and Steve has made to walk you through the steps to sign up for things. So even if you can't come in, um, if you're trying to access something in a time when the library isn't open and you can't actually reach a librarian by phone, you can go here and you can find on most of our pages, instructions to sign up for things. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Now we're really pleased. We've, we've moved a lot of stuff onto our website. So I'm, I'm glad that I get the opportunity to share it with you guys. Um, because there's just so much stuff that you can access. This way, uh, so anyway, so this year we added flipster, which is a digital magazine service. So you can download copies of magazines and flip through them in an ebook format. And again, there's instructions in a video. Uh, and then we added the service called canopy, which we have gotten requests for for years. And, uh, hesitated. We actually, we hesitated for a long time to add a lot of digital services just because we understand and appreciate that not everybody has access to high speed internet. And when you're talking about adding a digital service, there's not the same kind of guarantee that people will be able to access it equally. Um, so, but we've, but this year that kind of forced that issue. And so we have now digital ebooks, we have audio books, we have magazines, and we have, um, uh, streaming movies. And the same thing. There's instructions. And then there's, there's video instructions as well. Isn't it amazing the things that people have done. In response to COVID being creative with. All different kinds of things that blows my mind. It's just so impressive how everybody has stepped up to try to do things for people to make like the library accessible. So we've tried to. Thank you so much. Yeah, of course. And, um, so you can also look at adults under adult programs. We have all of our upcoming programs on our website. We also, if you scroll down, you can watch videos of past programs. So those are accessible after the fact. Our children's programs are more associated with copyright issues. So there's a limited window of time where we can have them available to people. So those you're going to find on our Facebook page where we record them on Facebook live. And they're only only there for a limited amount of time. But do the schools take advantage of. That. Yes, they do. And one of the, one of the really cool things actually, I probably. Probably don't need to share anymore. I'll stop sharing for now. Um, one of the really cool things that's happened this year with COVID. Uh, our children's librarians have done introductions to library services and have taught. Classrooms in this format. So we've had a whole classroom with a, with a video on them. So you can see all the kids sitting at their, at their desks spaced apart and, uh, and either Nicole or Melissa or two children's librarians talk about the library and the things you can do when they screen share and, and they've been, so we've still been able to do that. Yeah. No, it is. It's really, it's really fun. The first day, the first day I walked upstairs in the children's library and like, Nicole, what are you doing? And she, and she, and she tells me to look. So all of our librarians have found these, um, have worked really hard to find creative ways to keep getting library services to people throughout. That's great. Well, and I just, I just want to chime in quickly too. The obvious comment here is hardworking librarians. Um, a lot of challenges and, um, I'm, I'm still impressed with Carolyn, you and Jesse as co-directors and all the librarians, the staff has been really flexible, oftentimes, um, working in the library. I picked up a book last week one day and I could not believe how many books are on the tables in the foyer to be picked up. It's, it's so great. Um, and canopies, some of this digital stuff was, was coming soon. Probably. We had talked about it at the board. Um, but Corona just propelled. The library into a lot of the digital stuff. Um, you know, fundraising this year has been challenging, but we're doing pretty well. Honestly. Um, we have a new development director who just started last week. Rachel Seneshaw, who was, um, used to spend half her time doing programming and half doing fun development retired at the end of the year. So we have a new person in that role just starting to learn the ropes. Um, three board members turned off the board. We have term limits, three three year terms. And so, um, we had three just finish up. And two new members. Um, young woman who 30, 30 year old who also lives in Berlin. And we have another Berlin rep. Uh, she's had a lot of experience, even though she's only 30 with fun development. Um, and nonprofits. So we're all, we're all excited. Um, all our board meetings are on zoom, of course. Um, um, but we've been able to really. So many services. It's been great. So. You know, sent kudos and thanks to the whole staff. Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm people have been so creative. I applaud you for all your. Efforts and outreach. And I think actually COVID may have been good to get people back to reading books. That's, yeah. But I went outside and I was like, I would absolutely agree with that. And then so I don't want to take up too much of your time because I know how busy or all of your meetings are, but I, I did want to say, um, On the theme of budget, uh, for fiscal year 21, when we were originally planning this year and we had no idea what fundraising would look like, or if we would see budget shortfalls or, um, what, what town funding situations would look like. We did reduce our budget by 5%. Uh, and we have saved on that budget or we've, we've saved on our expenses. We have a, um, A position that has gone unfilled over the summer that we've been able to leave unfilled. Uh, we did not have to furlough any staff, which was wonderful. Uh, and we have been really careful with our spending, which we always are, but this just reemphasized the fact that we needed to be really careful with our spending. Um, we did have a really successful online gala in December that went really well. And so our financial picture is pretty good. We're in, we're in really solid shape right now. Um, and as you know, we're requesting level funding or we have, we've been requesting level funding for all of our towns. Um, and then I just want to say that also that if you guys have any questions, or, uh, you know, always reach out to me. I love answering questions. And the other thing I really like is to hear where we have service gaps. So like, uh, East Calis having a drop off in East Calis, but if there are other things like that, or other services we could be doing, or if you, I'm always open to new ideas. Uh, and I love to crowdsource from all of our communities. So if there's anything else that we should be doing and we're not doing, uh, or if you're not sure if we're doing, please reach out and ask. All right. Well, thank you again. Anybody else on the board have a comment or a question? I just want to say thank you for your efforts. And, uh, it's obviously been challenging times for all of us, but I'm glad to see that these services are still being made available to the community. Um, so kudos. Job. Well done. Yeah. Thank you. I just want to thank you. Yeah. I would just like to thank you. Yeah. Thank you. I just want to thank you. Yeah, I would just like to reiterate what Cliff just said. Um, and you know, just listening to your presentation really, really just hit hammer homes, the point that the Kellogg Hubbard library, um, fills such a vital, um, important thing in our, um, community and so many people are benefited by it. So again, again, thank you for all your hard work. I appreciate that. And I'll, and I'll share your comments with my staff. They'll love to hear them too. And thank you, Craig, for your service on the board. Glad to do it. That's what I was going to say. Thank you, Craig, for being a liaison from callous. And of course you can always touch base with me too. That's really, uh, one of the biggest roles that, that the town reps play. Um, all the board members. Um, so yeah, please. Give me a shout if you have any questions or, uh, things to come up ideas really, uh, we say this every year, but, um, we know there's avoid nice callous. Um, the store is not, um, quite open yet. Uh, maybe in the next couple of weeks, Denise. I don't know if we're going to be able to open the store, but it probably won't be open, but I'm thinking we might be able to come up with a. Way for there to be a delivery. And pick up date. On the steps of the store, but I'll, I'll talk to you and Carolyn. Yeah. I wondered about the post office too. Yeah, there's the post office. So there, I think we can probably find a place in East cows. I think it would be really good for there to be a place in East. Yeah, there would be. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Callous is doing its public informational meeting. Retail meeting on Saturday, February 20th at 1pm. On zoom. Listen, if you want. Yeah, I'm planning to attend that and, you know, happy to take questions. I'm not sure. Exactly what the format will be for that, but I'm happy to, um, to answer questions. Yeah. Yeah. We can't do town meeting. Right. And things like that on zoom, but we'll go through, you know, the warning as we usually do. And see if people have questions on any of the. Warned items. Yep. Is that something I could go to as well? Sure. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. All right. If you, is there anything else from. The library. Yeah, he's got his hand up. You're on it. Okay. There. My mute finally cleared. I don't know Carolyn Craig. If you saw the article. From CNN a couple of days ago that. Yes. Yes. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah. What was it? So it's an article about Senator Leahy and his connection to the library. And his role in, yeah, there you go. So he, so Senator Leahy has been in five Batman movies and he's written introduction for a Batman book and he's done voiceover work for the cartoon. And all of his residuals go directly to the library. So since. Yeah. So since in the past 13 years, we've gotten a little over $150,000 in direct donations because of that. It's just, it's just this really cool connection. Yeah. And we got a call the end of last week from this reporter at CNN. And then over the weekend, it was on their, on their website. So my name's in C on CNN. Oh my. I had to point it out to my kids. I'm like, kids, look, it's your mom. Yeah, there you go. So you got to take it or you can get it. Seriously, I have teenagers, so I don't get a lot of cred at home. And so it was. Yeah. But it was a great article. Yeah. Good for you. Thank you again. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Take care. Right. Um, Cliff, we're gonna need to bring up the. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Treasure report, please. And Sandra. Sandra, I thought I, there she is. Hi, Sandra. You're on mute. Maybe your dogs won't bark like mine do. I have them in their own room right now. So if they bark, we won't hear them. Oh. So we're at the, where. This report is. We're at the top of our, where we are at 50% of our fiscal year. And the long story short is we're doing very well. We're on target. With revenues. In fact, revenues are over. Where we would expect to be at this point in time and both highway and. General government expenses in both those departments are a titch over 50%. Mostly due to the fact. That we have several one-time annual payments, including of course the social agency appropriations on the general government side that are made before we hit the mid point of our fiscal year. So it does skew. The expenses. A bit. I don't see anything that is alarming. There are a couple of line items that are going over, but nothing that is going to make any. Significant impact on the overall budget by the end of the year. I wouldn't think and. Taxes. It was a great tax collection effort this year. I think it's been a great year. I think it's been a great year. Surprisingly. We collected $20,000 more. This year than we did last year, which. Is an interesting phenomenon. I think. We're currently collecting delinquent taxes. They're coming in a fairly well. And again, I, I expect to collect them. In the end of the fiscal year. 2019 taxes are all but collected. There's $365 left to collect. And 2019 taxes. And I was thinking that the one taxpayer that that amount belongs to. Or the vast portion of that amount belongs to. I was thinking he was going to ask for an abatement. But I thought he was going to ask for that amount, but I was thinking he was going to ask for it in full. So. 2019 are done. All that. And we'll work on 2020 taxes. As we have in the past three years with monthly billing and agreements and support from. From myself to get the taxes paid. And that's where we are. the budget over overage that you want to point out to the board. You know, I don't think there's really anything significant you have grant expenses that weren't budgeted and but they're reimbursed. So you're going to see in some of your expense lines were over you know where things are already at 100%, but in large part that's because they were on budgeted expenses and we're going to see. An equal amount or more in some cases on the revenue side to pick up those those line items so I think I think we're okay. Right on board members. Do you have any comments questions. I mean I think we're in good shape. Thank you so much, Sandra for all your hard work. Okay, are we good earlier Sandra after you sent it out thank you as always for being so thorough and putting this together gives us a really good picture and well done thank you. Yep, yep, I read it as soon as you sent it out. So we're good. Thank you. Thank you very much. Have a good night everyone. All right, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, up next is just some update kind of stuff. We need to have a B. Oh a meeting we have a request from Layton. Layton was for an abatement of their taxes portion while not their taxes the penalty and interest. And then we have the small amounts which we do every year that Sandra presents to us and you know things that are under a dollar to a bait. And there is an issue and I'm still trying to get to the bottom of this who files the request but North Calis Memorial Hall Association. There was something weird that went on with the tax program. And they ended up getting a tax bill that they're not supposed to get. And the listeners have been working with the tax department to try to get the matter resolved. And if you remember, there's legislation that exempted them from property taxes. So that matter is still a little bit in the air but just so you know that that might be part of this process and then we need to have a BCA meeting to go over some things that Judy raised with regard to there's just some different things she needs to run by the BCA for town meeting. So I wanted to canvas the board and see if you all are available at six o'clock on Monday, February 1 to do both meetings can you. You probably don't know yet right. Um, let me just go look at the schedule that's in the kitchen. I'll be right there. Thank you. I thought we already agreed on that last week. I don't know. Not a, I don't, I don't remember that but Cliff are you available. I am. And Sharon, are you available. I think so because I think I checked last time. Okay. Yes. Okay. This is just for an hour. Yeah. And then we'll be doing our regular personnel meeting that night unless folks want a night off. I am, I am available at six o'clock. I'm working the early shift that day so I should be home by five. Yep. Thank you so much, everyone. Next up, Centralmont Solid Waste Management District. I think I forwarded to you or john did where things are at with the issue that he's had been updating us on with regards to the Solid Waste Management District and the recycled glass and so on and so forth. I believe that there was a couple of documents he sent around. A couple emails. Town Hall lights are still off, aren't they. Lights are off, but we can turn them on anytime. So do we have to get the wrong idea with that statement. So Andy Felice is back being monitoring and checking on things at the hall. Scott and I met with Andy and showed him the ropes. We also, even though we do have storm windows, we made the decision that we should protect them from snow piling up against them creating too much pressure and breaking the storm windows. There will be, but it won't be the full sheets that covered the windows in years past. They'll just be at the lower level to protect those portions where the snow banks may rise up to Andy will also make sure that the, the two doors on the main parking lot side of the building are accessible for whenever we need them that they're closing and closing functioning and that there's a clear path to it as well as to the tank for the fuel. And. Yeah, what. Yeah, I was going to ask you I think there's there's more right. Yes. We are working on getting the second phone line activated I believe we have a date later this week where technician from consolidated will come by and get the lines turned on so that we can take care of the issue with the tendency for the fire alarm system. I also have had some concerns raised by a couple of different members in the community regarding the quality of the water at the building and I just want to put it on the select board's radar that we're going to be looking into what it would cost to get a filtration system installed much like the one we had to install at the town office. Not doing this could end up being way more expensive proposition for us because it would cause extra corrosion on the pipes, could even impact the, the radiant heat for heating system that we have there. So it's something that will have to take a good look at make sure we get it addressed properly. There is currently we've got the heating system working and the two zones there's the two zones that it works on is the wooden floor, and then the second zone is any of the parts of the building that has cement flooring with tiling on top that would be the kitchen and the bathrooms and the rear area. So we're making sure that we have a proper temperature in there we don't have to necessarily have it up at 68 degrees. I think probably a little bit warmer than 50 degrees is what we'll have to maintain it at make sure all those systems are protected and not suffering ill effects as a result of the colder weather. Any questions. Just so when when when do we think when do we think the second line at the town hall will be working for seacoast. I believe the line is supposed to be turned on this week for some reason I don't have it I can't find the email but I believe it was the 28 that Judy said the technician was coming out. Oh, that might be right. Okay. And then once that happens then we have to contact seacoast and we can certainly get the line plugged into the system but I believe they have to run an activation routine to verify that the lines working properly for their needs. So is Andy going to go into the building periodically just to check things out make sure. He will go inside the building, upstairs and downstairs, making sure that all the doors and windows are safe that there's no seepage into the building that there's no leaks. Periodically he will flush the toilets to make sure the septic has some activity, and visus accordingly should there be any issues we need to act upon. That's great. And, in addition to that he will also just make a point of driving by on a regular basis to, you know, just do a visual quick check from the road, if anything to be a miss. Very good. All right. Do you have an update for us on friends of the town hall anything going on there. Friends of the town hall of commenced meeting again on a regular basis for the time being will be meeting once a month, but the first order of business is going to be looking at the proposed management agreement taking the inputs from the meeting. This is October 26, where we got inputs from the select board as to what else they would like to see in that agreement and at some point, the friends group will come to the select board asked to be put on to the agenda and make a presentation. Any questions on that. Hearing none. Denise are you still with us. Looks like we might have lost Denise. I think she's coming back to that issue. Sharon you want to take the reins. She's coming back. Did you do it update. Yeah, I can do it update there's not a lot to update there. So I think about this and it portion of the meeting we had talked about what we would need to do with regards to our it capacity for organizing the informational meeting for the town meeting. Getting the board's idea of how they envision that going down. What I would recommend is that we expand our existing zoom license. Right now it's capable of doing meetings I would like to conduct the informational meeting in the format of what they call a webinar. It would allow up to 500 people to participate in the meeting. It would allow the board and whoever else we want to invite, say Gus for instance, or perhaps Craig when he wants to speak about the library to serve as panelists, which is a little different format that we're all used to here. It would also give us the capacity if we're interested in doing it to live stream the meeting to YouTube while we're conducting it. Would that be would that be different than just recording it. Yes. Yes. Another venue for people to be able to use it we view it we may not want to take advantage of that but it is one of the options that's provided to us with the webinar package from zoom. Does that require a different does that require a lot more internet usage, as far as capacity. No, it would, it would be a function of everybody's individual internet as to how, how they, how well they could participate or view the meeting. But it gives the select board and the moderator the ability to better drive the meeting. So instead of having a single host and at one co host, we would be able to have multiple co host, so we could have someone responsible for bringing people in from the waiting room, making sure that they've identified who they are by their full name, as they joined the meeting in the record of that. It would allow some other co hosts to act as traffic controllers to acknowledge when people are asking questions so it doesn't all fall upon Gus to do that. It would just give us a bigger overall capacity for managing this whole process. I'm sorry. Cliff, the YouTube. YouTube. I'm not familiar with YouTube as an interactive format that would be as a contemporaneous viewing format but not something people would be able to participate in right. That's correct. It would just be like they were watching TV. Okay, okay, so that and that that for whatever reason may be fine with people, and it would reduce the, the, the pressure on the zoom, the zoom averse right. Exactly. Okay. Okay. And then on the point you just, you just made around multiple co hosts, admitting people and getting names. I think we can also as hosts, actually, you, well, you guys can't see. But you can, you know, you can rename yourself here. And I think as co hosts, we can put people's names in their boxes. Yes, that's correct. And also, it would give us a Q&A format in addition to people, you know, raising their hands to ask questions. There would be a repository where general questions could go in. And if other people have the same question they can click like, and we see what questions more people are interested in having answered. So when we do, when, first of all, we need to figure out when we're going to do a practice. That's that's the other thing of the webinar, it does allow for multiple practice sessions. So we need to get that scheduled here pretty quick. And will we be able to practice with this YouTube feature. Yes, yes, we would be able to do all of this. I think we can make something here real quick. And I think whatever we can do to make it more accessible. You know, would be the best thing to do. Yeah, I want to pull something up on screen. So you can all see what I'm looking at. This is the impact price wise. Yeah, I agree, but you can buy individual months I would propose we buy two months worth because we're going from the threshold from February into March to have the actual meetings and if we needed to have a follow up or something for whatever reason. So our, our minimal cost would be an additional $140 my proposal for two months would put us at 280. Yeah, that seems. Yeah, that's makes sense to me. That makes sense to you, Rose and Sharon. It does. Cliff, can we, I'd be happy to work with you on this but I think that you know you and I who are have used zoom a lot maybe could put our heads together on exactly at the really at the really micro level like how many people doing what who's going to do what. Exactly. Before we before the training so that everybody knows when we walk in the training what their job is and. Yeah, and what I'd like to be able to do is put together a short instructional piece that we could send out to the community so hey for those of you aren't familiar with zoom. Here's how you use it. We can even provide instructions to people who might be joining only by phone, because there is the capacity for them to mute and unmute themselves while they're on the phone as well as raise a hand and be acknowledged. So they can ask a question. Well, yeah, we will. We will automatically mute everybody right and then they'll have to they'll have to know how to unmute themselves. In this case, they can raise their hand. Once they're acknowledged we unmute them or a co host unmutes them and they can ask their question. Yeah, I think that's right. And I think that you said so that Craig I think Craig's only job should be why dealing with what's right in front of him, not Craig, Gus. Gus's only job should be dealing with what's right in front of him not having to do anything around the logistics and how you logistic. Absolutely agreed he'll have his hand full just like that. That sounds like a good plan. The other nice feature about the webinar extension is that if we have the desire at any point during the meeting to invite someone to step up as a panelist to make a presentation. We can do that. And then we can return them to the audience after they're done. And then we can allow us to run up to believe it's 100 panelists concurrently. I don't imagine that we'll need that many but the capacity is there. Well that's great thank you for doing all this research on that clip it's been very, very helpful thank you for stepping up to do that. So we should. So, you're welcome. I would like to talk to the office staff and coordinate with them and Gus, a time to do a practice meeting and see if we can get some of our friends to just participate as any pigs. So we can propose at least two practice sessions one for our core group to participate in and make sure we've worked out any kinks that we can imagine, and then a second larger one where we invite friends and neighbors to help us work out kinks at large. Yeah, I think that makes sense. Yeah, sounds like a good plan. Even maybe in our friends and neighbors inviting somebody who doesn't use zoom. So that we have. So we have somebody that somebody whose lens is really fresh to remind us of what we don't know. Preferably what we what we know that we don't even think of telling people. Someone like Greg. Greg, I was thinking Doug, who would probably not even be willing. But Greg, Greg's never, he's never done a zoom. My dad, he doesn't live in Calis so he can't like spread the word. Well, we could end my husband who's never who's like Greg. Never done a zoom meeting. Nope. He's, he's watched me do a zoom meeting. All right, so we'll figure out a date and see when everybody is available. Because the 20th will be here pretty quick. It's almost the end of January. I can even believe it. Yep. If do you want some help thinking through tasks and jobs. Yeah, let me. You know what we could do maybe is we could start. I'll get a something in the Google folder. A bucket where we can start capturing these things. Get a get a few bullet points captured and then we can expand upon it from there. Okay, where are you going to put it in the time meeting folder. In the town meeting folder. I'll get it kicked off first, you know, think it through a bit and then put it in and send everyone an email and say, okay, please drop your ideas here. Sounds good. And in the meantime, Sharon, if you have some ideas right off the top of your head, feel free to email them to me. I agree, you know, given, given your level of experience with using zoom with your clients and my familiarity with it, we can definitely, I think cover a lot of issues before they become issues. We have two experienced zoomers. Yay. And we have somebody who's competent to bit to learn to learn zoom so I'll do some one on one training there. Alrighty. Yeah, thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. All right. Hitching post you all you all remember. Last spring summer talking about the hitching post and putting a post up outside of the adamant co op that hitching post is for people to sign up to ride share. It was supposed to go into effect this spring, but due to COVID, all the hitching post stuff has been put on hold. So I just wanted to let you know that in case you get any inquiries and just to give you the update on that it doesn't seem to be a good way to do ride sharing right now, until the coven situation settles down. So that's, that's it on the hitching post. You want to do minutes now or personnel stuff now we do minutes now Katie will still be here. So I would propose that we review review some of the minutes. That's, that's good I want to. I think they're still in the folder but Katie there were the minutes that I wanted to add in the specific statutory provision. That allows the select board to wave the petition process. I put that in there today sharing. You found it. Yes act 162. Okay, let me. All right, let me I didn't think it was in there but let me let me look at that because that actually makes sense because I have spent too much time trying to find it in the statutes. Yeah, I just put it in there today it's act 162. It's temper and I put in the wording from what they are for so maybe Cliff could call up was were those the next minutes up for review. Those were the minutes of January or were they the 28th or January 4th I can't remember the 28th. Maybe all those up. You're on mute. So what we were stuck on was what authorizes us to filter and approve other petitions. And that is. I think that's in the same act, because I'm looking at something that I got from the LCT. I talked about how many square feet per person. Do you want to hold it in person. I don't see it in acts and in. But I couldn't find it anywhere else and what I, but what I did find is. Yeah, I made comments, but I don't see them sharing. I see them. You see them. Where they're not lining up exactly because we have so many comments but when I click on that. Yeah, let's see. So, so Denise, I thank you for, but as I open act 162, it's just one page. I don't think that's it. That isn't what I was reading that one night and I just cannot find it again. The provision that you're right on the signatures, but this is on other like voter petitions. Or citizen positions or whatever that's called that we said we would approve them. If they don't go through the. Are you talking about like, if somebody wanted to put something on the ballot, I mean, on the morning. About vaccines. Yeah, we didn't get any, but let me see. Right. So that's not in act 162 and I remember that I read it and I sat here inside the language and I cannot for life when we find it again. Okay, Katie did send me the VLCT guidance that that makes an oblique reference to we can do that, but it doesn't again that doesn't ground itself in the statutes either. Sharon, Sharon, check this out. 17 vsa. Section 264 to a three. Hang on. Yeah, I that's what I just read. I've been reading that. That's not the one you mean. That's not the one you're looking for. Nope, it's not in there. So, I was like, oh wait, that's what I've been reading. So I think we got to move on already. So I think we just need to write around this. The SEC floor has authority. VLC, we could just say VLCT materials. CIT select board authority to blah, blah, blah. There we have it. We have a an authority. And there VLCT materials site select board authority to wave signatures. Yeah. And move. Okay. Is that the stuff I put in today. That I think was from earlier. And that was me marking a placeholder to find the statutory reference, but we got more important things to do at this point. Yeah. Well, I think if you look at the comment I made, if you just take out the act 162 stuff that sites that authority. But I can't, and can you make anybody make them a little bigger. Yeah, your comment though, because there's so many comments and whatnot. Years got pushed way down. Is it a comment though, or did Denise make an edit that we actually can see. I made, I made a comment, but I didn't. I put it in the comment section. Yeah, I saw it a minute ago. It was almost to the end here. Well, if we just go through and start accepting then things will start to get. Alligned. Let me expand this better. Little bit better, not great. Can you make it a little bit bigger. That's better. Okay, so shall we start at, let's take it from the top. But I'm, but I'm bum, bum, bum. Right. Inputs here. Really some of your edits, Sharon. Yeah. Do you want me to. Do you want me to go in and accept while Cliff drives so that Cliff isn't trying to do too many things. Which works better for you. Katie can accept. Yeah, like Katie. Can accept. So at the top. I put in a comment. I don't know where it went. Denise Wheeler recused herself from the discussion and vote. To avoid. To avoid a percent. I think I put a comment there somewhere, but I don't know where it went. Can you, can you see my comments? Yes, I just accepted it because, because it said it in here. I can't see the comments. I just accepted that comment because it says here to avoid perception of a conflict of interest. Okay. If you want to see the comments, then I have to. Make this smaller. Oh, okay. Oh yeah. And then I just had a. Mm-hmm. I got to leave it. I guess leave it cliff so we can see the comments. Okay. I just updated that guy. Yeah, I just wanted to have the date format be the same. What's this next one? Okay. Okay. Okay. Here. From Sharon. Um, so. A need for the board. Something. We delete to be the ones so it just reads. If there's a need for the board to host the meeting. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's. That's good. Denise, I had one comment at the top of page one. Not related to all those other things, but I just wanted to make sure that. I just wanted to make sure that. I just wanted to make sure that. I just wanted to make sure that. And I worked so hard on the appointed position spreadsheet. Under the appointment for. Um, Dirk Van Cestrin. It is a three year term, but can you just insert. Expires in 2023. So. I know you guys put in a. Tremendous amount of effort into getting that all. Up to date. Thank you so much. Yeah. So Katie, by extension. Um, If when we're doing this sort of thing, if we forget to say it. Yeah, I would say go ahead and put in like a secretary's note. In minutes. To catch it. It's such a detail that we shouldn't have to talk about it if we forget, but you should be able to put it in. And know that we're going to need it. And then it won't take more than six months for us to be glad about it. Thank you. Right. So here we are. Yep. Application. Yep. This was a long meeting, not Katie. Um, All right. I'm good with those comments. Yep. On the record. Do we lose the comma? We need to lose. This is the first. Go on the land record. We need to just go. The Senate seats to say the premise of place where things go on the land record. Okay. No, they don't, it's not where they go. It's where they get recorded. Yeah. Even better where they get recorded in the land records. Yeah, that was my comment. This place is a process through which. To be all the way thorough. Uh, the permit is the process through which. Um, Things. Why don't we just say my comment was. We just say the permit is recorded in the land records. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. And never mind the process stuff. Alrighty. Road commissioner. Yep. Looks good. Are we done with the road commissioner stuff? We're going to wait through the changes. EMSD. Are we done with Woodbury? Hang on. I'm having trouble using the copy and paste. All right. I'm EMSD. Okay. I'm meeting. Yep. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm glad that we, we Katie, Thank you for the really thorough for a lot for giving us a lot on that so we could document a really thorough discussion. So people. I mean, people, no doubt we'll still have people being grumpy, but we've got some really good. Yeah. We thought carefully about it. Yeah, I've talked to a few people who. Asked me about. About it. So. I think we had our good discussion was really helpful. Yeah. I think it was really helpful. For us all to see it through and think it through. So it was really good. Okay. I think we're just going to strike that. Yeah. Thank you. I think my comment is coming up. We might incorporate. In that paragraph. Somewhere. Oh nuts, Denise. I wonder if your comment was associated with, but I just deleted. Then I need to go back to an older version of the document to see it. Yeah. Let me scroll down and see if it shows up. I'm worried that, that it. Yeah. Been tied to that highlighted section. Yeah, it's. There's a bunch of, there's some Denise comments below though. Yeah, but they're not, that's not it. I just thought we could put in, if we don't want to put in the. Official act number. I don't know, Denise, don't, don't misunderstand me. I think we can put the official act number in. It's just that it isn't the act. It isn't. The act isn't what authorizes. The thing I was getting stuck on. Right, but I didn't get to finish my sentence. I had put in, okay, this is. I had typed in. Yeah. Switch the switch to Australian ballots. And this is where it does talk about the act number, but it says. The act number. This allows a temporary authority. Was temporarily allows a municipality to apply. The Australian ballot system to any or all of its meetings, special and annual. Held in the year 2021. By vote of its select board. So I think we could put that in there. All right. I'm, I'm a little lost as to exactly where. Go put it, put it between. Okay. That's where I had. Just stick as a new paragraph right in there. I can type it up. And send it to you in the chat, Katie. Awesome. Thank you. Sorry, I deleted your work. BLCT. Provided. Denise, but you just said a minute ago sounded like. Okay. There you go. Yeah, I've got some typos in my note, but you can fix those. It sort of sounds like. But to annoy all of its meeting. Say what? It's just a funny typo. That's all Denise. Oh, bless you, Katie. Katie, I'll do that while you guys go down to the rest of it. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I think that there needs to be a different word there. You see that. It's hard to see because it's so tiny, but. Do you see where it says. I don't think this, maybe it needs to be. Okay. Yeah. Other than that, those look good. Okay. I've got your. Section added back in if you want to go up and look at it. Okay. Thank you. Did we miss, I think you got to go back up a little bit. Yeah. Oh, that's where. There's. I'm sorry, Sharon, you're cutting out. What did you say? There's a, there's a place below where that. Showed up again. Plopped by. That's where it land. Okay. I don't know. I don't know. Never. I was found the fragment. Katie, when Katie accepted it, that comment got plugged in a, a different spot. It was, but never mind. It's, it's, we put it in the right spot because it's to Australian ballots. Right. So we're on. Am I frozen or is everybody else frozen? Okay. Um, those look fine. I can hear you. Yeah. Now we can hear you. Sorry. I'll stop. One, one too many fingers in the soup. That's okay. I can stop. If you're working on it, I can get out of there. No, no, no. No, no, no. I thought I just saw that. I was like, I'll just get that one, but you were. All right. Thank you, Katie. All right. The next one looks okay. Executive session. Yeah. Yep. That's fine. Yay, we made it through. Okay. Thank you so much, Katie. Um, yeah. All right. Let's, let's go into executive session. Wait a minute. We have to approve these minutes after we just did all this. Okay. So I would make a motion to approve the December. Okay. 28 minutes as reviewed. And chain or reviewed and edited. Is there a second improved new and improved second. Okay. Let's go. Rose. I. I'm an eye, Sharon. I. Cliff. All right. So how many more sets is so we have. January 4th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To do. I would ask that we do the January 4th minutes. I think those are short. And then that, and then we'll just do the rest next time. Yeah. Right. Okay. Stand by it's. Doing some weird stuff here. Given me some error messages about access to the. Google drive. One of those. I hope we're not going to have one of those. Popping in and out nights. Okay. Hopefully you can see those. Yeah. Okay. I just changed that around us to. Ted. That it was the continued meeting. But I write of December 28th. Yeah. The list is explained rather than they have. Elucidated or whatever. Mm-hmm. Elucidated. Yeah, I think everybody can understand explained better. Mm-hmm. The listeners have explained what elucidated meant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Try to write in words that the average person reading things can understand. It's still explained is still have this strike through through it. Yeah, I don't know where it is in Google docs. I'm looking for it while it's under, it's under format. Okay. You can fix it later. Okay. Yeah, just fix it later. That's fine. I trust you to do it. Okay. And then rather than just say. Well, you can see what I said, just change it to. Our professional auditors. Just looking for that. Oh, I see. Hey, Denise. Okay. So I'm just, I'm sorry, you guys, I did not read these ahead of time. So the board noted it is working on the highway budget without rationale or calculations provided by the operations manager. That makes it sound like we're ignoring what he provided. So. Oh, I didn't read it like that. No, but it very easily could be. You didn't because you know what, what it means, but any, any person, right? Katie. Anybody could read it. Where are you ignored. That first sentence. The board noted it is working on the highway budget without rationale or calculations provided by the operations manager. I don't know what you mean. Yeah. I see what you mean. Right. Right. So, um, so it needs to say the board noted it is working on the highway budget, even though the operations manager has not provided rationale or. Rationale for his calculations. Okay, good point. All right, I'll keep reading with a different set of eyes to see what's going on. Yeah. That's not what we mean. And it just needs to say, um, you're going to go back and take out that strikeout later. There we go. Okay. All right. The road commissioner is pursuing identifying a truck. Can we just say the road furniture is looking for a truck. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Katie. And I just put in. Um, when. I thought I put in when we, oh, I made a comment. We should put in the return to work date. Is that it? Pretty much. March eight. Or Katie. Oh yeah. That's the date. Okay. I just wanted, I wanted to preface a little bit of how we came to. Of why we decided to do what we did that night. And I just wanted to make sure that we had. Well, you can see what I wrote. Yeah. And chose to grant the full. Is that what we're reading? What Katie has highlighted. Like board had budgeted up to three 2.35. And chose to grant the full amount. No, it's, I put it up at the beginning. Did I noted that the 2.35%. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We'll put on hold. And. I see. So we're, so we're. We are elucidating the fact that. We held off. Um. No, no, no, Katie, that, that part stays. They, they make different points. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. One is why we, one is that we. We'd put them on hold way back when, when we were teaching everybody. That the budget is one thing. And what we authorize as a pay increase is something different. Okay. Yep. We need to state the purpose or reason they were put on hold. You know, I started to put that in there and then took it back out. We can put it in. I guess it's public knowledge that we're. Because of the union negotiations. I did, like I said, I put that in there and then I took it out. I could, I could go away. Yeah, me too. Pleasure. Well, you know, it wouldn't hurt to put it in there. My thinking was, is if somebody. Other than us looks at these minutes, which I don't think very many people do. They might wonder, well, why did you guys put it on hold? What was the reason? So I, yeah. Let's put it in. Okay. Pending outcome of. The. The negotiations. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. And then do we want to say then parenthetically, which are still not complete? I don't think we need to state it there. When we were talking about it, they aren't complete. And they still aren't. And I think you. Rose, you're on mute. Rose, you're on your mute. Union should be capitalized. In my view, I think that we should state. That they're still not complete. I don't think we need to state that. The union. We can just say which are ongoing. Yeah. Yeah, which are ongoing. Yeah. Did you hear me say the font is different? No, I didn't. Oh, the font is different. Later. Thank you, Rose. Good thing, Dave. It's not here to get that into the talk of the town. Yeah. You're right. I guess I didn't think it was that bad road, that talk of the town's lane. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he just poked fun at me terrible. And I don't like that. I'm just a poor sport. Oh, you know, plus he spelled my name wrong. Yeah. Well, that's not okay. Yeah. We rose. Yeah. You're still on rose. Yeah. Thanks. Okay. I think we're about done. All right. Let's somebody like to make a motion to approve the minutes as reviewed with edits. So move. Second. Second. All right. Ready to vote. Rose. I. I'm an eye, Sharon. Hi. Cliff. Hi. All right. I'm going to get Alfred on the phone. Did anybody catch the last name of the person named Pat who was on the call earlier? I could not identify who it was. Tried several different ways. Text and voice prompt and whatnot. Their audio was breaking up. So. No. You want to sign back. It might have been. Thanks. It might have been. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But we can. Was that before I even, was that before I came back at the very beginning? Yeah. Yeah. Would you like. Would you like to. Did or delete that name from the list of attendees? Was he ever really there? Oh, yeah. He was there. I don't know if they were actively listening at one point. They, they checked out of the meeting. So. I think they were there listening, but I don't know if. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Can we just put in. Pat question mark. In parentheses, I'm known last name or last name. Yeah. Just so we know somebody else was actually there. All right. Alfred's going to be checked and signing back in. So everybody go get you fill up your water glass while we're waiting for Alfred. Yep. I'm going to do that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Katie. Did we go into executive session or not yet? Not yet. We'll wait for Alfred to sign on. Okay. I'm going to bring him in. Okay, great. And we got to. I'm going to go in the executive session. Hey Alfie, we're just regrouping and we'll go into executive session here in a minute. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. It's just still some cold weather. Yeah. Not much, not much snow. Thank goodness. Yeah. Couple inches coming tomorrow. I guess, but nothing major. I was out walking the dogs and did Roger had David out for a walk yesterday when it's the afternoon and the sand truck came by. Yeah. I don't know who was driving it, but. I think it must have been Jacob. He's gone that route now. Oh, okay. All right. So must have been sad to see Paul's last day. Yeah. Yeah. You'll be missed. Yeah. I liked him. He's a hard worker. Yeah. Everybody back. I'm here. Okay. Do you want to make a motion rose to go into executive session? Sure. I make a motion. We go into executive session. Okay. I'm going to make a motion with the road commissioner, Alfred Larabay to discuss personnel matters at 847 PM. All right. I'll second that. Ready to vote. Rose. Aye. Cliff. Hi. I'm an eye. Is Sharon. Are you there? Well, we've got three. Oh, there she is. Oh, okay. She didn't hear you. I think you asked me if I want to vote to go into executive session. Yes. Yes. Okay. Thank you.