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M.C.SK. there's a lot there's a lot happening over there so please in case you miss it or you just want to hear a couple of details one more time white 54 is the need is the way you need to be on our youtube page yes hashtag of the day is one morning now we are getting to our question na but don't not go interact na sisi so remember it's white 54 on facebook white 54 channel on x white 54 underscore channel on the gram and the question is are we empowering the girl child too much is it time to stop and now focus on the boy child or na or is it is it not over should we be doing more and i do not think i feel like i want to express my sentiments but that's why i have a panel and that's why i'm moderated so let me allow these lovely ladies to introduce themselves they've come fully attired in very interesting gear you tell me all about it but let me first start with your names what's your name? my name is Luella Prasesi Ya Kodze okay slowly Luella Prasesi Ya Kodze Ya Kodze wow okay that's exotic where are you from? i'm from Burundi okay and i'm here for an exchange for six months i'm a yes girls movement participant 2024 and we are from girl guides who are here for KGDA Kenya Girl Guides Association okay all right am i too old to be a girl guide yes you are welcome oh i'm not too old so i'm okay okay as i was saying yes i'm too old i was panicking for a minute there what's your name so hello uh my name is Nabina Mangrati Nabina Nabina like Ribina but Nabina yes it's Nabina and i'm from Nepal and as like of her i am one of the yes volunteer for six months i'll be here in Kenya for six months working with Kenya Girl Guide Association what's your favorite thing about Kenya so far as of now Kenya the thing that i heard a lot about Kenya when i was about to come here is masai beads and ugali okay i have i'd never take this off though like these kind of beads or the assorted ones like everything all of those accessories that are made up of beads like um that is kind of speciality of Kenya as well so yeah those are the beautiful things i've seen should we tell anything else that we like to do amma we let her discover let's let her discover what's your favorite thing about Kenya so far i'm excited to see the animals like lions we don't have such things at home really so i'm really excited to do safari yeah and i like the way Kenya is like Nairobi is like Europe and Africa the same time i like it like it's green everywhere and the building uh-huh it's just amazing to mefikiyo guys where we have reached we have reached all right anyway my Nairobi it is beautiful but also should we tell her anyway let's just allow them to explore i hope you have fun exploring so tell me about is the yes girls movement tell me about that first before we get into empowerment and things like that what is it exactly okay so yes girls movement uh so firstly we have uh wags which is world association of girl guide and girl scout which and what uh it has so many programs to undertake for like all the girl guides and scouts girl scouts all across the world and yes girls movement is one of their program one of our program of wags where um which so yes stands for youth exchange south to south so for this year for 2024 uh we have 12 countries uh some from africa and some from isia pacific region so i belong to isia pacific this from africa and uh for um that as i've already said we are 12 countries for this year and started from 2015 and it's still going on and this year is again more special because we are celebrating 10 years of yes girls movement and the the celebration is going to happen here in kenya in Nairobi first thing i should teach you celebration in swahili is sherehe someone say sherehe with me sherehe okay so tell me about the celebration what you guys going to do what ways are going to be exactly we are planning everything is in process or we can fully tell the details but we have even the yes summit yeah the yes summit here and the 10 years celebration and it's going to happen on july summer time okay that's what if i was why are you laughing at me so much uh if we meet in july okay we have summer time by the way it's june around june there july yes we also have summer anyway so where am i getting with it so basically the topic of the day is do you feel like girls are being empowered i think too much in relation to the boys do you think that's true you look like you have something to say do you think that's true all right uh so let's hear from her first let me let me ask it this way is there like there's a girl guide world girl guide association yeah is there one for boys yes yes we have so i put my balance okay so do you feel like the feeling left out that you know girls are being over empowered which i don't understand that concept but do you think so um for their association i feel like maybe i don't know but we are more interested in things so we are getting maybe more opportunities because we we want to we want girls to be seen and they are like they are just doing their things and we don't really see them yeah yeah and the thing that we need to actually consider is that when we are asking a question like are we empowered enough so it is the statement that already says that we are not yet empowered enough unless and until there is a questions arising like this then it simply means that we are not there like yet we have not reached where we are supposed to be because the society where we live in it's not just napal or not just burundi or not just kenya but all across the world there are certain people certain communities certain families where it is difficult and we being the yes girls we are actually working on it because we know that there is a lot to do and there is a lot to be done so yes it's not enough articulate and we are on the field so we can tell that there we need to make more effort because there are girls that are not empowered yet what does that mean that when what have you seen tell us what you see like let's take example for menstrual hygiene we see a lot of girls that don't even know like pads they don't use pads like especially in rural regions so i can tell that they are they are not educated on menstrual hygiene or maybe stem or how to protect the environment so we need to work on that and that's what we are doing so i wouldn't say that we are empowered like we are enough empowered thank you for bringing that up because my imagination of empowerment was and at how do i start this come let me take it from menstrual hygiene just simple message something that's going to happen every month without okay without fail if you're not participating in activities that may make it fail but the system dictates unless otherwise dated that this will come once every month and there's still a large number of us who who don't know how to deal with it or who are not able to deal with it we still live in a world where okay i'll tell you something in kenya in kenya you can go to place certain places and find free condoms being dispensed but you cannot find free pads why exactly in the same i like that is the same for my country and i really like it's very unfair for me because it's a very very very natural thing yes it's biological like we get it when we born and it is important because in order to continue the generations it is important and we need to take care of it but we are failing somewhere somehow we are failing to do that so so when i was growing up uh we yes they used to come to our school and talk to us as early as primary or you know when you start your menstruate well technically according to my comparison is the thief of joy but you can only know if you compare so compared to a lot of girls i went to high school with i started my menstruates quite early like i like i bloomed early so it was very confusing for me because no one else is really and that's not a conversation i can have with my friend because she doesn't she doesn't understand me you know but you know they they tried and it made me so shy even going to the the shop or the supermarket to get what i need and it it's been here it's been here for for the longest time but i am so embarrassed like i'd get it and then run to go pay for it like real quick and then even hide my face you're laughing it's a true story i'm scared you should see me walking around with it now but that's neither here nor there we actually a few months ago had a member of parliament a lady she she wore white and then she had a red stain she was making a statement which was walking into parliament you know we're going to talk about this thing called men's season we're going to talk about it now so i can see things are happening that places in in the country or i guess in in they're just places i know of where we're not even there yet to the pads like you don't even know yet about pads you have to sit in on a whole for a week until your mentions are done so if you're going to school that has to stop whatever your world literally comes to a standstill until which is going to happen every month one how is that over empowerment how yeah exactly on monday on monday we're talking about women in politics specific to the country and okay the statistics working up to right now don't look very good according to female representation and even then it's usually nominated seats like you want elected was given to you yeah yeah or you're pretty so here have it where you talk nice or something like that but right now our current government is i think doing a really good job we're trying to ensure there's a law actually two thirds i'm talking the most but i'm trying to show you where where i think empowerment is so two thirds there's a two thirds rule so we're supposed to have a certain amount of female representation in the government and funny thing our neighbors tanzania the the president is female yes so it can really say it's an african thing we're not backwards like that because we can clearly see they're they're making moves and developing so how is that over empowerment and it's a male dominate everything has always been male dominated except the kitchen except you just being in the kitchen has never that has been a female thing yeah you just bury children and and being in the kitchen and taking care of the home so but even there like taking the lead in the kitchen if we just see the household kitchens are led by women mostly the housewives but when you when you go to the fancy restaurants the sophisticated you know places that they are the saves are men so that is again not a good thing that is again not a good thing so is it okay we've established we're not there yet just in terms of what we're looking at it's just been always a man's world this women try to fit in but now my co-host at Grashamengi brought up which i think i may and i said i wouldn't give you my sentiments but i think i agree with her that yes we're being empowered but you know now the boy child doesn't really know how to deal with an empowered woman so do you think that's something we should balance out exactly i think that we should be given an equal growing field like when we over empower girls they will feel superior and then put down the boys like what we've been feeling so i think they'll they'll just be they should be respect and equality between them like growing in an equal field being given the same opportunities and then like boys should be educated that you have to respect girls even if you've grown in a different society telling you this and this but you should respect girls and you should like support and vice versa yeah that's how i feel things should be and how do you think nabia we can fix that or how how can we bring balance okay so firstly we need to understand what empowerment means like what does it really mean so empowerment doesn't mean like i don't know like what does it mean is that we have we need to have that confidence it's not just women but the empowerment itself states that we need to be confident enough to claim something that is ours if it's our rights if it's our you know things duties responsibilities anything if it's something that we can claim and we can own it then that is what empowerment is so so uh as she shared and as you also said like we are in a male dominant society and it's not just the case of yesterday and today it's been here since decades like it's been happening since long long long time so it will take some more effort some more time and some more knowledge some more bring the balance but we have worked a lot because you just say that tangania has a female president we napal we have a former female president we have so many women uh growing and coming up standing up for themselves but the thing is that we need to be able to support ourselves we need to be able to become bold and if it's ours if we think that it's correct and if it's ours then we need to be you know strong enough to stand stand for that so i think that is one of there are so many steps there are so many things to be done but this supporting each other supporting ourselves being confident with ourselves is one of the most important thing that we need to do there was once okay maybe just bringing it back to men's ease there was a once i interviewed a um a single father and on single father of a girl so he was explaining to me uh how that transition was for him one minute his girl is you know a child then suddenly boom puberty has happened now he has to you know start taking care of he has to even learn what cramps are you know you you pms what that means like you're not okay for like a little bit of time and you cannot use that against women if you've ever been somewhere okay men's ease roughly said very roughly don't use it unnecessarily but here they say kunyesha like it's raining literally kunyesha means to rain okay so you'll be there talking to people calmly calmly have your conversation then maybe it starts getting heated up and then you just hear some random boy kunyesha like this because you're you've become very passionate and very spirited so it's it's very very easy for someone to use your own biological going on to use it against you and i think that's ridiculous but you see now the single father comes in and says okay now i get it now i'm i'm seeing it for myself with my own eyes because i'm the only guardian for this child so i'm i'm learning do you think that's something we should expose the boy child to let me just call them boy child right now so it is important because it is as i've already said it's natural thing it's it's the thing that we got when we were just born like it was supposed to happen and if it stops if it doesn't happen then the word will end so that is the fact that we need to know and in order to support like as you said there is a single father who was supposed to support her daughter in a similar way we have got our brothers our fathers we have got our a partner you know so if they don't know about what is happening with us then the thing will not go on they will they won't be smooth so it is important for boys to actually know about it as much as girls need the education on menstrual hygiene and about all of those processing the boys they are supposed to be known about it okay and and maybe before you give me your answer let me just add to something on because this is another pillar i feel that empowerment has or the idea of of women becoming empowered is based on is education a long time ago i don't know in our culture my ancestors didn't really believe in taking girls to school then you are supposed to like i said be in the kitchen or just breeds or both then the boy goes to school the boy goes to learn a skill and initially it was you know the boy was going to be the leader of the family it made sense at the time because everyone knew their kind of knew their place but then education kind of set in and then girls started going to school we have a mind it's not that we're taking away their leadership it's just now we know a little bit more do you feel again is that's something that should be taken away from us just because we have opinions now i feel like education is important and okay let's talk about their leadership if the man is working and everything and then he gets sick or gets an accident like how are you surviving if you only know to cook like how are you surviving we have a mind we have a brain we're intelligent so we have to i don't know to explore that way like that part of us and to be confident and then like we are able to do something to make a change it's very beautiful when they are supportive like they are supportive to each other and like if you get sick or i don't know what happens to you i'm able to take the the lead and then like do something for my family for my country for my society for the world exactly yeah all right so we do have people participating on our socials that is on facebook white five four white five four channel odd x white five four underscore channel odd instagram my director has got a bit carried away with our conversation but he's been asking very insightful questions so i do give you that hashtag so it's going to display them in just a little bit and then we will cap it up i don't know why time is over already today is ending really quickly i mean my time flies when you have fun hi okay all right so again with the male dominance so just let me stay there on education for a little bit so when you hear engineering do you imagine women or do you imagine me according to what i've seen while growing up i definitely see a man with the heart it's because that how i was growing like i was growing up like seeing people with hearts and and and but it's very inspiring and beautiful to see a woman with that hat and leading like you know this building should be like this so yeah it's very beautiful but i know it's not only my case while growing up we saw men and it's very like we need to dig in to to like to erase that scenario do you imagine what do you imagine when you hear it's very similar to her but since i have been working in this women empowerment thing now i have to be you know both sided like i have to think about men i have to think about women also because we have been working on it like as i've said we are on an exchange international exchange program and we have we will be working for the six month in different six initiatives and one of them is the stem girls so we all know basically stem men science technology engineering and mathematics so for this year stem girl is one of the major initiative that we have to work on wow so we are the one who are telling the children's and the communities that we meet that women should be in the stem field because the representation of female is very very very low as compared to male so we are working on this we have got different activities and we are just two representing but we are six as a team so we are working in our way best to make the presence to make the representation of female very similar to that of male another thing about stem she's part of the stem project like she's studying microbiology and we also have an engineer in our in our group okay yeah just biology give me the stress maybe microbiology a a a okay just maybe last question i'd like to ask before we engage with the viewers they say okay again i feel like this is society something that it's fed to us forcefully they say women we're not really our own best friends so what we're trying to impart case in point when we're trying to empower ourselves so i asked you engineer what you think of you said men right mostly men iya you by mistake you find a woman you would find other women saying ah you either had to choose beauty or brains so you chose brains you get me it's like we kind of take away from do you believe let me face it as a question do you think we take away from ourselves also do you think whether with the reason we keep making 15 steps forward and then five back we're progressing but we're still kind of do you think that's the reason for example in my country um we have that problem like there is that let me tell like stupid statement they say when you are a smart girl and then you work hard and then you get money you never get married i'm like why because bed will fear you like why they say that why would you global universal working i'm working it's just i'm really hurt by that statement but i think women are not really supportive to other women yeah like that statement yes and then they're like like she should be she should lower herself to you know she'll be leading she will not have husband no she's just working for her future yeah oh god forbid you go study and choose to have a family later than everyone else you should have frozen your eggs you should have now what do my eggs have anything to do with visual anyway anyway so so i saw you kind of reacting to a comment she made me yeah because that's one of the most important thing like if women's are not supporting women's if there is lack of sisterhood then we are not going anywhere we're just we're just gonna stand and say let's empower women let's work for women empowerment and then just sit down so if there is no support in between us as a women if you're not supporting each other then it won't work so first if you want us ourselves to be strong enough then we need to be supportive to each other and then there would be men coming to support us and then there would be other person coming to support us but at first we need to empower ourselves we need to empower each other and then i don't think there would be any other you know barriers because it's hurting when you know when you are doing something great and then it's your mother telling you now you should just go and sit down and hey mama you should be the first supporting me and so we go ahead you can do it girl and then you're telling me that i will be like i would take the be ahead and then i'm like in french to be saying and then you forget about everything else so no we should be really pushing each other to to be in front and this is why education is important it is the major major major pillar so in order to make a strong and stable building we have to make its base very strong at first so education is that factor for empowerment if we just like so said if our mother is educated then she will definitely help us to achieve our dream she will again inspire motivate us but if someone is from you know who's like underprivileged who has her own sufferings then she won't be able to motivate the other person so that is the reason why education is very very important yeah all right now you want to say something yeah i want it to give a shout out to my mom yes we when i was applying for this program i'm in first year i'm studying political science and international relations and i was like mom i would just have to stop this year and then continue after and she was like you know even if you're going it's like you were studying where you were going so i push you to go it would be good on your cv it would be good for your own growing like personal and professional so maybe you're not studying here but i know you'll be studying where you're going so go ahead and i was like blessing yeah and that's why we call that scouting is an informal you know education platform so we are definitely learning so we again from here because this is the platform and we never know if it's gonna happen again hopefully we'll have have it again but let's let me just tell that we we just want to give a big big big shout out to all of our family members of all of us like all the participants and everyone who are doing good who are supporting each other especially our family members yeah thanks to all of us all of them yeah guys are so nice but i think exposure is important when you get exposed and you talk to someone 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