 Well, we're here at the amazing J5 Rancher. We just had the first C-H-T-O Chubby Turner Clinic and we've got Terrell Houston who was one of the participants and we're just going to be speaking to Terrell today because we want to hear about your journey into cutting and what you've experienced so far. So tell us how you got introduced to cutting. Well, I my great-grandfather was into horses and you know and back then that's how they made a living and so after my dad and my uncles come about But they left Texas and moved to Oklahoma. So when I came about I missed that whole generation gap So when I came back to Texas to stay here, I got into horses. I've always had a love for horses, but one day I Was going to ride and just learned some things work on my balance work on my speed and agility things like that And a nice lady introduced me to cutting. She asked me what it was and I was like I didn't have no clue what it was But it ended up being a flag machine the inflatable cow on like a 40-foot zipline just going back and forth and I was like I want to do that. So I started doing that and let's say five maybe six weeks later I'm here talking to you. That's amazing. So what is it about? The sport that really captured you is it the feeling in the saddle? Is it having that? Control over the cow. What is it? It's the it's the adrenaline rush first and foremost. I truly enjoy that but The fact of that your horse Can bend down and work with the cow and at that same level And you just stay locked and loaded the whole time is like I love it And I love the fact that it's a challenge. It's not easy It's it's not easy not even the from the balance to the Understanding the actual game that you're playing and the reason why you're playing it. So I Love a big challenge like that. So have you competed at a cutting yet? No, never So what's the plan? The plan is? Keep working at it Work on my balance work on my speed work on the knowledge actually of the sport learn it more and start off in an amateur class and Lord willing in the creek don't rise. I'd be competing there pretty soon So once you got that first taste when when your friend introduced you to it, right? How did you? Find a way to learn more about it. Is there much cutting around where you live? And in all honesty that the internet like I when I'm at work all day or when I get off work, and I'm at home I'm googling everything it led to YouTube videos of the Futurity and Macuria and all of the world finals the super stakes. I started watching the footage and once I started Learning the footage. I dissect the footage and all of that and then I said, okay Well, I need to find somebody who actually does this like in their backyard or at their ranch and I started googling more and more and I Found J5. I found Constance via Facebook and I had no clue I was even talking to her and then from that She told me about this and I started saving my pennies and I was like, oh, I won't miss this because I've never I've never seen or been that close to live cattle outside of taking a road trip like back home No, go home city or something. Well now this weekend you really threw yourself into the deep end because The chubby turner clinic was the first time you actually cut live cattle, right? Tell us about that experience. It was it was beautiful. It was I wish they had already made a word in the dictionary for how good it felt, but it was first and foremost in calves or They're fast in the whole lot faster than that remote control thing. So everything Everything was fast at first and then once I got in the pocket. I realized I was back in my living room And I was watching footage so everything just slowed down and I'm listening to chubby in one ear And I'm slowing everything down in the other ear all while Trying to hang on so exactly it's not the easiest sport because you've got you know You the horse and the cow and somehow you were to bring it all together Exactly with with their moments where you thought this is hard or this is Absolutely not out of control. Absolutely not I When I walked into it when I walked into the situation, I said, you know what? If you aim for the moon and you just so happen to miss at least you land on a star So I was gonna I was gonna go for it regardless Confidence is key. So the whole time I was just oh, I got this. Oh, I got this never let them see you sweat So I was on it. So what have you learned about? Cutting what do you big takeaways from this weekend? patience and persistence patience and persistence that gets you through anything you can't rush The cut you can't rush the cow. You can't force the issue. You got to hurry up and wait You got to have patience, but as you're being patient and you're starting to work that cow You have to be persistent. You can't you can't kick them All the way that way and then forget about it on the next one. You have to be persistent You got to stay with it. So has it made you hungry this course. Absolutely. Absolutely. Uncle Chubby told me I needed to move in So I'm packing my bags actually right now. So I'm gonna move in so you're even keener and you've got some goals Yes, first thing Continue to come back here work more on my balance work more on my riding ability And then from there start focusing more on the cow even when I told you when I study footage I'm focused on the rider like I look at the riders feet I look at the riders hands then I focus on their eyes I never pay attention to the cow until I got here because he told me never take your eyes off the cow And I was like, oh wow now I'm gonna have to go watch some more film and look at something totally different So a little bit of that That I take from there and what I'm already doing and putting it in the pot and go make some good gumbo out of it So it's gonna be good. So I mean you're a real role model for people who've been looking at cutting from that You know from the outside and wanting to get in You don't have a horse. You don't necessarily have an area where there's a trainer or people around you who cut Haven't let that put you off. No, the only limitations you ever have of those you place upon yourself So you got to go get it by by any means if you want it that bad go get it So nobody's gonna stop you but you so I said, hmm. Well, there's somebody who's got some horses. I Need to find them and I'm pretty sure they got a whole bunch of them and they don't mind I mean hey if one guy's got 50 horses, I'm sure he don't mind letting you use number 36 to go Work on whatever it is you're working on so I'll Just use the internet like the internet brought us all together as cliche as that might sound but that's that's what happened and what's your advice to other people who Would love to get involved in cutting but they think it's too hard or they don't have a horse So they don't have the the supporter or trainer or they think it's too expensive What's your advice to them? I would tell them to change their circle of influence Exposure and expectations Get around Change your circle of influence get around somebody who's gonna push you to be great The good can always be great the great can always be phenomenal Just get around good people and good energy your circle of influence means a whole lot and once you have that positive Spirit on you Nobody can stop you. It's it's nothing like your best friend or girlfriend your wife your husband Whoever somebody pushing you to be great. You don't have to keep that secret bottled in you Just like hey, I want to do this and somebody's like go do it Who do we need to talk to and I'm just like that's your circle of influence That's that's what you need never give up never give in so I just I'll go get it by any means that's awesome So, you know you've got You've got what you're gonna work on with your cutting What else did you get out of the weekend, you know in terms of the people you've met and I enjoy every everything that I got from everybody I truly enjoyed everybody's spirit. I The clinic is over with the we all had a great time and this is the end But it was the journey the journey. I enjoyed the most. I mean from small conversations out on the porch to Conversations in the arena and outside and at night during dinner during breakfast doesn't matter those conversations from everybody else Even though Uncle Joby said I'm greener than snot So I but I can I I can share Something with somebody and I told him hey, I noticed how tense you were if you just breathing you just relax Because we having fun at the end of the day We having fun no matter that the cameras are rolling and for them to accept that and I don't know nothing I'm five six weeks into this thing and Then they give me some back, too, and then we can shake hands. We can hug it out and it's just I Appreciated the journey Everybody comes from all over and I'm just like these people took 14-15 hour drives to be here and I'm like geez I was only like an hour and 10 minutes away, but I found out how big and how great and how much these people appreciated and it made me want to it made me appreciate not only The opportunity and chubby and the clinic and everything But those people those people were all a part of the journey and I really appreciated them for that Thanks for being a part of it and best of luck with your cutting journey. Thank you. Thank you