 Splitting Hares the hairdresser's podcast starts now Featuring Matt Beck Christina Cavalcanti, Brian Hare, Brea Bolland Bolland and Scott Hey guys, this is Matt Beck from free salon education comm here with episode 79 of Splitting Hares here with the crew. Hi. Hey. Sorry we got We're late. It's just we're late. It's not your role We just finished doing hair and then we try to eat something really quick before we sit on We were soups busy. I Actually have my food sitting right down. It's like the white wizard from what is it Lord of the Rings? They're never late. Yeah, we start right on time. Yeah, that's right So Christina made a delicious meal. Yeah So thanks for that. She made Brazilian chili Brazilian Chicken nice chicken brazilie with Brazilian avocados. Yeah, and we're all Brazilian people So if anyone's confused why fads sitting at the table, oh wait You have the same haircut don't come for me So so we got Brian hair Dreha Bolland Justin Scott. Yep Christina Cavalcanti Thaddeus Bolland We're all here hanging out. We're a lot of stuff. We have great news We got trending tresses from we got FSE social stuff from Brian and then Thad he's gonna share some stuff, too Sure, that's gonna fill his mouth full of food and have a conversation right now. I already had two bowls of chili And so so yeah, so thank you to Millennium Systems International. I actually I need to shoot a video I told them I would do it by Monday which was three days ago that I would do a video saying I can't wait to be at the experience and In Arizona, so I have to film that video tonight after we're done but I can't wait to be a part of the experience in Arizona and I'm so excited to you know to be a part of it but it's it's such a great event and I know that Me and Thad have been there the last four years, but it's just it's a really cool event with a Lot of huge artists are gonna be there this year and Nicaragua is gonna be there So you get to take classes with him and the greatest thing about this that it's usually a little under a thousand So it's very intimate But there was the wall feeling naked. Yeah, I didn't like it. Okay You can see how easily we hang this up There we go. Justin could go without a shirt, but the wall can't now. That's not how it works here I can only be the naked one So so thank you to Millennium Systems International check them out millenniumsi.com. We had a question on our Community page and a lot right away to these free salon booking software things which I get because it's free right but Millennium is more than just a booking system. It's it's your cash register. It's You know, it's the heart of your business. Yeah, it's every pay for yeah So so you're only paying forty nine dollars a month for for the new Mevo software, which they keep updating and making better and better So I would highly recommend if you're looking for a salon software check out Millennium Systems International Demand force calm funny thing about them. So I'm we're slammed in the salon on Friday You guys were all there except for that I'm walking by and I see somebody on the bench and I'm like that person familiar to me and it happened to be the marketing person for demand force who Lives in San Francisco. So it was very odd to be walking past and just a moment of like where am I? Yeah, I was like you look exactly like someone. I know but She dropped off this really cool package. Good thing is that something nice. Yeah You look like this bitch I had to deal with across Well, I walked by and I took like a double-take and I was like wait and then she had a demand force shirt on so I was like Okay, yeah, so it is her Yeah, and I was I was so busy I didn't I barely got to talk to her But she dropped off a gift basket of some fun stuff It was basically a way to get through your day. So it was like starting off with coffee So they had local coffee in San Francisco. Yeah, how was that? We haven't had the coffee and then there was granola bars for the midday How are they through they were delicious and then there was three of them I didn't want you guys fighting over it and then I'm actually gonna order a bunch of them I've decided and then at the end was margarita mix Where was I flavored simple syrup? Yeah, how was that put in drinks? We we haven't used it yet, but I'll make up like a bash maybe with like tacos or something Because one was habanero lime that would be good in margarita. Yeah, and then the other Peach flavors, so that's probably like maybe good and like a vodka All right, so that's pretty cool and and that's not all demand force does obviously they they take It's like Millennium runs all of the the heart of your business It's really the heart and then demand force is like the brains basically So yeah, it's like demand force takes care of everything that you don't want to take care of or you don't have time to take Care of or you don't you can't be consistent taking care of it, you know, that's that's the big thing with demand force It's all about them doing the phone calls them doing the online booking them Calling or texting your guests and emailing your guests and it just takes everything out of it So so check out demand force comm make sure you go to demand force comm slash free salon education and give them some love that way and Us some love at the same time it'll show them that you're listening to us And you know, they've been big supporters of the show for almost a year now Big supporters of the salon really and and that's what it's all about. Mizutani scissors. We keep throwing refurbished up there I got a few new ones. I put up yesterday that no one really knows about I didn't even announce it Yeah, so if you're looking for it, they actually we have an acro leaf wide Drive Why didn't I tell you your computer in front of you just buy them. Yeah, go buy it. Oh, um So we have an acro leaf wide dry cutting scissor. We had three we have three of them I think maybe one sold not anymore and then there's a three texture scissors as well on there And those are all they're actually not even refurbished Kiyoshi found them at the factory and they were like factory outlet like they weren't in between the seat Yeah, they weren't selling them anymore. But you know, so he took them to sell them on the refurbished site Yeah, right and shop FSE is the only place you can buy refurbished Mizutani scissors Ever so we have that connection with him Minerva beauty comm Much with them because I want to do some more stuff I got to order some capes from them. Yep Um, I wouldn't mind having a couple more of these cutting stools because they're very popular and I really want to start Cutting hair on that like I want my guests on them. Yeah, so Minerva beauty comm you can get anything but but that's where we got the stations. We got the chairs The cutting stools all that stuff and we're gonna be giving away cutting stools in Orlando, Florida coming up next month Yeah, and you hear the announcers talking over everybody as everybody's leaving saying vendors Things it's gonna be because of us. We're throwing the cutting stools. I was just about to say go ahead Where's the joke about throwing stools? I know it's coming. There it is coming. It's coming watch out All right, and brocado products. We actually have a couple special guests coming to the salon this weekend Yeah, we do Josh XO a good friend and Jeremy from I believe he's from Minnesota Maybe oh my god. I hope it's Minnesota. I think it's Minnesota. I just watched drop dead gorgeous this weekend I'm gonna make him recite the whole movie with me if he is Why would he know the movie because he's from Minnesota? It's like the only movie ever from Minnesota It's kind of like in Iowa. It was children of the corn. Yeah and field of dreams. That's all All right, so so yeah brocado. We're coming out They're gonna we're gonna film together, which will be fun and brocado is totally supporting the whole thing They're sending them out putting them up in a room. So cool. Thank you brocado for that And we're gonna put out some cool videos for you guys and they're also gonna help train You guys on the brocado products and me as well. So we'll have a lot more information on that coming up That's pretty much it that's all I have. So should we get into the social? Okay Submit your questions to Brian here on our Facebook community or by using the hashtag free salon education There you go pal. Thanks, buddy all right, so kicking it off like I guess to To flesh out your joke and answer some of the questions going on about what all this was about with my head If you're not following me on social media by now, you should be and then you would know why my it's right Actually, I have a family member one of my favorite ants is currently going through chemo and little moment where I went to her house and we spent the day together and She shaved my head and then I shaved hers. So we're both rocking the same look right now Can you tell them about your experience of getting your shape? Well clearly she had never done this before and I I wasn't about to try to school her like I would teach a hair dresser How to do this? I just gave her shares and she's like, what do I do? I was like you put it to my hands off and she's going and it's fine It's fine and she digs into where my ear connects to my head so hard and just It was a bloodbath what type of what type of clippers was she using mine? Yeah, but they have the detachable head nose. You're literally a little heavier. Oh, yeah It was the zero a like the Oster blade like she she got in there. Yeah, you left my favorite story out She's like I said, oh it cut me. She goes it can do that. I'm like, yeah, she's are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure I'm cut. We're good Nice, so yeah, so that's why yeah, so that's the deal why I'm rocking the Yeah Alright, so then on to other social media where you guys did interact first off We got Teresa Stray sent us a message saying hey guys want to say thank you for all the free education I watch videos almost every day. I want to buy a good pair of shears as minor old and not very good I've just started booth rent in a new town on a budget Which miss a tiny sheer would you start with so obviously the answer is to hopefully Yeah But the the problem with the refurbishers when that problem, but the thing with refurbishers. It's it what we have is what we have as far as If you want to actually invest in something is you know a miss a tiny sheer you'd be paying the full price for I Would say whatever you need to figure out what you use most I mean like when we all had the the option of getting our first pair We sort of went with what we knew needed we needed. Yeah You know I went with my swivel shears that I knew I would use all the time with the heavy-duty blade for Wet dry, whatever you know the bullens went with the the dry cutting because that's something they do all the time And they needed to add to their arsenal so really it's just you know look at what scissors you have look at where there's a need There's a gap and Just go from there I mean we've got videos on so many of the different kinds of scissors there right and there's that's in its own This is a review videos. Yeah on on the site. There's scissor reviews I believe it's even on the top tab, but also on shop FSE. I've embedded those videos next to the scissor So if we've done a review of the scissor It'll be on the site next to that scissor and I want to do I'm going to do that with every scissor So that's coming up. We're working on that now. Okay. I also Speaking of videos I have ideas for videos and I wrote them down last night Well, these are some video ideas that I actually I've been thinking of and I want to hear other people's Video ideas as well and if you guys want to throw together some thoughts too, that would be great But I was watching different things and I was trying to take inspiration for you know from other YouTube channels And that's usually what I do because I want you know If I look at a subject even if it's like on a computer YouTube video I can kind of tie it in to what we do so I Hate when people point cut like this which was inspired by Seeing certain people point cutting. So we're gonna talk about how to point cut why to do it I have swivels so I can hold my hands in different positions I'm gonna do a video on tools. I can't live without so that should be coming up how to How to scissor over comb You're right. So how to scissor over comb because you think about like a lot of people I want to make these quick two-minute videos like how do you scissor over comb? What's the best way to do it? I don't want to make it. It's quick little snippet. Yes, and then the thing you tricked me with We're gonna do a quick tips video. Well, that's cuz you took forever Yeah, that was your first video and so we had to break it up and show but and you had a lot of great information So it just kind of kept going. It was not a quick tip. What's so I thought that was like a trick And then you're gonna make it a video. Yeah, and I had a long conversation A pair of scissors and it actually you know how Mizutani comes with that orange kind of it looks like The key color key, you know, but it's like the scissor key So she called she's like, I don't know what this is and and then the oil She's like, I don't know where to put the oil on the scissor And I agree and I don't know how Scissors so it was all of these things that we even talked So I'm gonna make a quick video on how to care for your scissors just like we did for the clipper blades So there's a lot of different things Coming up with different videos that I want to start working on And we're also gonna start filming a men's cutting DVD sort of so that's gonna be really fun. It's gonna be really in-depth That will actually be not necessarily a free salon education video It's gonna be more of our own kind of education video It'll be it will not cost a lot of money But we want to put a lot of time and dedication into it So it will be for a small fee soups worth it. Yep. We're talking like day-off haircuts here guys. Yeah Yeah dedication so All right, so that's that's some other stuff we have going on. Well, what else got Brian? Oh, all right Somebody I don't even know that we necessarily gonna be able to answer all this right now But just if you have something to throw at it Christine Maranto says do you guys have advice for learning clipper over comb? I can fade pretty decent with attachments, but I'm very uncomfortable without them I also get pain in my wrist and the hand that holds the comb when I try it So obviously we don't need a full clipper class But if there's a a thing or two to throw out there just I would say first off It's the comb she's using People are just grabbing their basic haircut and comb that's six inches long and it's you know pretty thick But it's a scissor or a comb. That's that's that's one thing that's probably gonna help her out She picks up any barbering comb the one I use what's the name of it? You know the exact which one the YS Park right one YS Park one with the handle on it with the handle Yeah, that's the I believe it's the 209. Yeah YS Park 209 That thing is fantastic for clipper over comb, you know scissor over comb just basic hair cutting a lot of control with that That's one thing that's probably hurting her wrist. Yeah another she's prize I don't know how long she's been doing it, but if she's pretty new to it that we have that comb Handy, I think if you want to grab my scissor case up there That's that way But that's probably one thing is also the time she's been doing it. Yeah, all right, so then for telling somebody Is there like I know my big thing that I always make sure that I tell people when you're doing clipper over comb is don't Catch the comb at the teeth use the flat blade of the actual blade to ride along It helps just get a smoother cut. Yeah, you're not attacking the comb so much They can get a smoother pass each time. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do We're gonna do a video on clipper over comb as well. It'll be a quick one and a half minute You know, this is how so that comb that's the 209 And the cool thing about it has a handle on it's very flexible Thank you Brian But it's great because it's thicker it's wider not thicker it's wider and so the clipper glides across it really well I think my big pet peeve with clipper over comb or trimmer over comb and anything like that when you have a Like a regular ys part comb has all the ridges on it. So when you're trying to slide across that, it's a nightmare That's made for that. So Like nice smooth on the top. Yeah, and the teeth are wide too Which is another thing is if you use a really tight teeth, you're gonna it's not gonna give you a nice soft cut Yeah, it's like doing using the comb and actually hold the hair like in like Sassoon techniques The tighter the teeth are that you know tighter the lines gonna be where if you just like no Your teeth are gonna get a softer line to it. Right. So well, and you have to like I don't know if you can get that comb on hairbrained I'm not sure if they have that one. You can check it. Otherwise. I know Passion beauty calm we'll have it we have a question here It says do you hold it vertical or horizontal to blend I saw I Was I was gonna get there. Sorry. I didn't want us to move on without it. I'm gonna tell This just in Justin is lying to you Actually, what's going hold that an angle usually I feel that's the easiest because you're not gonna blend straight line I'm not gonna sit there and do like what I'm doing a fade. I'm usually working on working with So he's saying a diagonal. Yeah rather than horizontal or vertical. Yeah, I think it depends on the line that you're creating The haircut we did this morning cross-checking. Yeah Yeah, hold it on a diagonal and you run the comb through you're gonna see that wait line kind of shifting back a bit So it just depends on on the look you're going for but you can create any look with with any of those angles But it's easier If you're if you're cutting more of a round shape I like working diagonal with the round of the head. Yeah, because then that wait line shifts with the head It's just a little bit easier to work your way up. But that's my opinion All right. All right, and it's wrong. No, I know. All right Moving on Krista Schaefer says I take this from me. I Know myself better. I knew that just why are you eating a comb? Why not? That's true Have you met me Did you not eat enough if my comb has bite marks you owe me a new comb just saying it's fine All right Moving on Krista Schaefer has said I have a question about doing an ombre Does it really need to be teased before or is it better to freehand? Well, I noticed today that 1.8 million people have seen that I don't tease so you'll be fine I just randomly saw the video number today. I was like, oh, it's 1.8 million checks it every morning Um, no, I used to I stopped when it got to a million now. It's just a surprise every day It's a joke it's just a surprise every hour. It was a joke No, I I don't tease when I do ombre because I have I Hate how long it takes to take out and I like more control than tease gives you because you can't Guarantee What blonde is gonna be there when it's teased like you can guess but it's I don't like teasing in an ombre anyway, so They're on our page. You can find the video where I'm doing it where it's just hand-painting and it actually comes out really nice So you don't need to tease But I have done a teasing video. I know that's not slamming it too hard No, but this this the teasing sucks. I think it isn't can be done. It's just not my favorite I want to time do the teasing with what here that you're interrupting your sister No, this is my new goal, I don't want to interrupt drag dad Just laid it down because Christina has told me that we interrupt Jaya all the time and I just I don't think we need to interrupt her Thanks, Matt. She's got things to say No, I was just gonna say I think it all depends depends on what for if you have somebody who just wants lighter variation at the ends then teasing is gonna get you there without having to Over like Brian does it beautifully and blends it. It's just a different way to do it I still do hand-painting when I do the teasing highlight technique Right just because I don't believe that just because you tease the hair you're gonna have a soft diffused line Yeah, I agree because you and when we did the tease highlight video, it wasn't a teased ombre It was how to add some subtle highlights I think teasing in some teasy highlight kind of feel to the hair is is fine But an ombre is a whole different Beasts and if you're trying to tease there enough to get that kind of ombre feel you're gonna have a nightmare at the we're also just not going to because Ombrace have to have light ends right and as soon as you tease that hair up then that ends not getting done Right, so yeah half the hair I think teasing is more for highlighting and dimension. Yeah, then ombrace just a bright in the ends a little bit if you want right But not all the ends right and it's not a gradation of color right, you know Awesome, let's see Pablo Rosales said I really like the education very cool sweet. I realize we used to always Would just be nice throw a compliment. Well, so there you go. Yeah, I don't have the video But if you guys want to see it go check out our community page Mickey bowl, I put up a great video Reppin the t-shirt like a like a fiend like a beast I love you too. So funny and I saw that video and I showed it to Christina right away I was like look at Mickey. He can figure skate this guy Yeah, he's wearing his I love Monday shirt, which some of you guys are Talking about shirts and stuff. We're running low on the supply because I don't want to make more of what we have So kind of whatever we have is what we have and I want to start doing some new shirts and kind of move them forward She up in it up. So So if we don't have it in your size or whatever Sorry about that, but we're gonna make some new different things, but he's next That's like wow check him out. It's great. So yeah, just wait for the I know hair shirt Glass houses All right, and then we've got Commented on last week's episode Michael Taylor said he just ordered a copy of Shadow of the Gauntlet From yeah, Casey. So that's fun. Yeah, that's cool. We're sending to the New York best-selling list All right All right, also on last week's episode we have great cake for the guy who started selfies before anyone else at least Brian's birthday season Opening and closing ceremonies like it used to That's from my mom said your mom. I said to you right away I was like so your mom totally thinks you invented this selfie Well, just because back in high school, which is longer ago than I wanted to admit when I realized that I Used to buy disposable cameras like every other day And all of my pictures were selfies because it was that kind of camera like my arm was always the frame of one side of it So yeah, that's funny. Brian's been taking pictures of them The my space You don't even know I yep, you're welcome guys James Thelman Happy birthday, Brian. Happy Earth Day 2. I like the news segment with Justin So there you go tonight. It's gonna be with Brian and Justin. So yeah, you're welcome I'm hoping you're gonna get a little more involved this week because I noticed that as soon as your segment's over You didn't really say anything the rest of the show last I was just trying to hold it together last week I was like six hours into quitting smoking. I was just trying to like not die. Yeah now. It's been a week I'm fine. Okay, so I'm in it. All right in it in it and they're like somewhere This I thought would just make for a good little conversation somebody sent a question Actually, they sent a question about a haircut for themselves, but I thought it would be cool just to hit on The man has got very deep recession lines not necessarily going bald But he has you know deep little recession like I do And he was saying would a pompadour be suitable for this haircut or not Let me see. Well, it's just anyway just in general because they're not be they're not able to see it So just picture that like deep recession lines. Can they do a pompadour? I Say yes, I would say it would say yes depending on the texture of hair If they have super super thin hair, then it would be tough for it not to just look like he's trying to hold on something He's not supposed to yeah, but I mean if he's got a good quality amount of hair. It's just You can definitely do the pomp. I would just say bring the sides up super high things all of the Like the focal point of the haircut is the hair because love the problem I see a lot of people is that like they leave this ridge right here Around that I'm thinking closing it leave the ridge like right there where you see the fluff coming out And you're not that you see that and then you notice this whereas if this looks real tight like I did to you that one time First I'd work in here You see this more So that'll look bigger as well because there's nothing here to compare it to So bigger yeah while I had still had the hair up front, but just had the receding hairline I really was a big fan of the mohawks because of like the same It with it took away from like the fact of the receding hairline because you're paying more attention to the mohawk So I'd imagine like if you did the pompadour, it yeah, you would just style it differently, but I support it I give it a thumbs up That's never thumbs up. That's too I say yes also Um, it's just be ready. It's just going to be a little bit more severe Yeah, because you don't have so much of that option of how far down it's going to come So it's that's how wide the palm is going to be so there's a chance. It's going to be a little bit It's going to lend itself to look more mohawk-ish So there you go Yeah, can I get a cliff note so what that was about? I think the best thing to do with mohawk is a good brain pay attention to the show good pomade Well, I take a selfie video. I was taking a selfie video trying to get more people watching so All right, uh, and then finally I had Okay, good I I wanted her name and I was afraid that I didn't get it in the screenshot that I took Jill Jalevich Beck I want to say because that's more fun. Okay. Jalevich. She sent me a message Brian, what do you feel are the pros and cons of doing foil highlighting with plastic versus metal rat tail cones? The last salon I was at everyone used plastic. Do you think it's just a preference? What do you use? I Years ago. I mean, we talked about it this morning, you know, when you're new in the business It's very easy for someone to do something and you You're cool. So then you start doing it. So then that's how you always do it. It's like matt with his crazy flipping scissors Very early on in my career. I saw A chopstick instead of a foiling cone So I got a bunch of chopsticks. I have all sorts of colors and metal ones and wood ones and plastic ones And I'll start to crap and so that's just what I've always used And so now that's pretty much all I use because I never use the comb part Anyway, so there's no need for me to use a rat tail comb I've bought rat tail combs in the past just because I thought they looked The ones I'm talking about me personally. Um And I end up hating them because for a while I also used to always wear everything on a belt And I would have them in the belt and every time I bent over I would pierce my spleen with the the metal tail of the comb So then I grew to hate them even more And now they're just so thin and so sharp Also, I discovered the other day one reason I can't use them is there's something that I do I like I have to like actually be doing it to realize what I do But it moves in my hand as I'm working And to get it back where I need it I take the point of it and I sort of poke myself in the chest to get it back in my hand Because with my plastic chopstick that's like nothing And I have the little rat tail in my hand. I did it and it hurt It's like oh god never mind. I don't want that anymore So me personally, I don't think there's a pro or a con to what I really Dispreference. Yeah, I just I I don't do it. You have a very violent Blonding experiences. I do But Chris, what were you saying? It comes out with Brian's camera. Yeah, what's going on with it? It's beautiful It's shinier today What am I doing No, I just wondered I do the chicken dance. Yeah, I don't know You can go back to my camera. I'm ready You keep pushing Oh the reflection Of what I don't see it. What is it? Oh really when he moves? Okay. All right. Yeah, don't move fast Don't move fast Okay, all right. Yeah For some reason I can't figure out if anybody knows out there Do I look like I'm in the matrix guys people's cameras? So I've got some of them set that work and then I can't figure out the setting for the other one But it is It is sometimes yours. I don't know if it's because you're in like a darker area It doesn't do it on that screen. No just on the other one on the preview screen You remind me of dumb and dumber when he's like you remind me of dumb and dumber. I'm running at an incredible rate Um, all right. So anyways, but we so I'll have to work on that. I don't know what the why it pixelates like that, but it just thoughts So because even technology can't keep up with me. Yeah Oh, whoa, boom And with that I'm done my segment. All right. Bye. See you next week. All right, cool So we have uh, so we have the free free pong freewheel coming up. Make sure you guys pick man. He's been practicing I have not practiced once but I will tell you Wisconsin Donna Or I forget her Yeah, I don't actually I didn't say I meant to say I am not sure if we're supposed to say her real name, but jamie will say uh She won she lost through me But won through kasey who wrote the book So, oh, yeah, but I did contact amika and uh, so her prize should be on the way So i'm excited for that. I swear. I thought she was gonna bar Did you the motion of it was such I watched the terror in your face Whoa, I have allergies and I thought chili was so good Everyone starts getting I was ready to hold her hair back. Oh, it'll be like that's a stand by me But caught on camera. Yeah news of that happens I'll flip All right. Well wild reya is uh barfing recovering. We're covering so free pong's coming up I did not ask anybody to email in So it's gotta be a call in on people need to call in So just because you're worried about uh, make it a shot. Yeah, I'm like, I don't even want anybody to forget that A part of someone's got to pick christina one of these days somebody so we pick Practicing today christina and I christina was practicing So remember it's 844 fse live the first person to call in uh, because but not right now Not right now, but just gave the number you interrupted me Because we do not have a high tech phone system It's this phone 30 dollars It, uh, we take the first caller, but that's coming up at the end of you could have told him That it was a high tech phone system and he would call in now. We'll talk to you. That would be great. I don't care Samantha, what's that number? Call in your questions. Yeah, you interrupted my segment calling your questions. We're actually so let's move in We need to do trending tresses or news That's right All right, jay, what's going on? All right, so first off we have adina minzal who a couple weeks ago Uh Showed off a half of her hair color on instagram. I guess four to six weeks ago Yeah, I'd guess that too. Um, but She has finally uh debuted her blonde hair and um, I have to say the instagram picture that she shared It looked like it was going to be a lot Is that's pretty damn light. It is pretty light, but I expected it to be more of a white blonde versus Yeah, this color. This looks good, but I like it a lot. Yeah, can I tell you what bugs me though? Is it not even her roots But the band just beyond her roots where they did not get her light enough I don't know if you can see that close enough, but it's It's that gold like she went in and got it done once but really needed it done that second time and couldn't make it in Good thing my clients don't go to a red carpet Just saying brian would tear it apart. It's not that bad. I know i'm just All right, what mine Wow, all right, so next up we have uh hillary stuff Pink only lasted not even a week because she now has a dove gray color Um, I was so swipe proper for her on tinder Yeah, wait, didn't she just go I saw like the huffington post like put up that she just went on a tinder. That's legitimate So wait, I heard and I are trying to figure out how to get into that like circle so that we can uh You guys should join tinder, but I heard And then we can talk about it, but I think I did hear I heard leonardo caprio is on tinder as a different name So like the name is what matters is the face No, i'm saying he's gonna show up and it's leonardo caprio, but he's actually going on dates through that So that are you gonna switch yours to men too just to pick up Let's get a leo date So well, all right. Anyways, I don't know where her hair look good though I know I like it if I had pictures with leonardo caprio, my instagram might go up though that It's the tresses try to get it. Thank you This is very nice. Justin. All right. So what I do like about this is it's clearly that she has had it done with her It's not just that that hot pink faded out to this because that's not what happens. It's a whole new color So she went from the blue to the pink and now back down to gray. So we'll see what happens next with that one Um, uh, kandace burr has chopped off her hair She um It's in the nice short shaggy long bob. They're saying long bob But I really like this as like a medium length haircut. What's she from? How long does the bob actually get? Right I mean apparently past your shoulders now is how long it can be. That's like the what is the clavicut? Yeah, it's gonna be called the repunzel bob to your feet. Yep. Yeah But uh, she posted the selfie on instagram and said hair grows back changes good. I thought that was fun. It's cute I like the color. I do too Um, christine aguilera has also I do too moving on Moving on uh christine aguilera has also chopped off her hair But I'm wondering if it's more of that she took out her extensions more so than cut her hair Yeah, it looks like that. But um, it's the clavicut because look how skinny her hair looks now Yeah, she's like I cut off all my hair and I got it She got a what? It was a purpose full accent there. I don't say fanned On a normal, yeah, I do say pan christine aguilera is not from alabama Right, I don't know. I don't get it. I like it better when she cut it off Last year when it was fried It was cuter than this just This is a little over textured. I think So many I mean like that whole article that I read that I'm making my Clients read the whole clavicut thing. It's just I it kills me that it's becoming such a trend because it's such a boring haircut Yeah, like I'm reading the description of it. They're like, don't layer it Keep it here. You can put it in a ponytail And then it's just gonna sit there. I was like, oh, well that sounds super fun. Let's do that Yeah, please That's usually what my hair gets that point. I'm like, oh, I need to cut it or just like commit to growing it Your microphone Like jennifer aniston had that cut but her it always looked good on her Yeah, I mean, it's not bad. It's just not Nothing it's not rocking my burp My burp I'm on a burp. All right. What else? All right, so uh, the white house correspondence dinner was last weekend and uh This shocked me because michelle obama usually has like that super smooth blowout that got hairs out of place and she debuted this look of these really tight tight corkscrew curls that I'm I haven't decided Her but I like the change I can't get over the fact that she really took like the debut of the joker way too serious with that photo in her face Oh, that's what I get out of it That's me Ripping on the president's wife. Yeah, no like See you again never fearless. I just think it's amazing that she really hasn't veered from her look at all Well, except when she got bangs. Yeah, but that's short and Did it all the other different ways Yeah, but it was still styled all the same like it was always polished. Yeah, it's very straight straight polish Like it wasn't there's no movement to it And now she has like this very tight curl to it and I like it. I love it dig It looked great in every picture from every angle. Like it was a really great job for being something that Like it alone. It was done full 360 really really well. It was meticulous. I don't like the side the one side What They can't see what this part is Oh the um Only we get to know you guys at home. We can do Christina's share screen right now Christina's she's referring to the part. She's the part's a little too straight there Yeah, and I don't know. I think it was probably just so they could have a harder actual part. Yeah I mean the style's a little dated, but it's cool that she changed it up. I think yeah No, I think that's cool. I think it would look better if she had like jeans on too. Not that dress For some reason. Yeah, like a wife beater and some jeans. Yeah. Yeah some cowboy boots. Yeah Yeah, like footloose red cowboy boots. There you go. We're that to the correspondent center pulling them off You might as well. It was pretty casual. I don't know if you guys All right, we don't get invited to these like you man Um, and then last but not least uh, kelly kuoko has Done a very pretty pastel pink. It's just a very light champagne-y color that I thought was a lot of fun Yeah, it's cool. I like when I like when people do it very subtle like that It's not it's not in your face pink, but it's Just a dusting of it. What is that face? That is not champagne Haven't you ever seen pink champagne? Because that that looks like pink champagne to me. Yeah, but when you say champagne you didn't say it was pink champagne I said a pinky champagne. Is that what you said? I'm sitting right here. It's why I disagree with you. Can we get instant replay? Just yeah, yeah, can we roll that tape back? Can we roll the lock? All right, let me correct myself a pinky champagne Yeah Okay, it's more cotton candy. Yeah, it looks like I you know, I'm gonna go I think pink champagne is a little more goldy. Yeah, but when I think of cotton candy I think of it being more dried out and like matte. I'm gonna eat my chili. What color? I said cotton cotton All right. All right, let's get it back together. What else and that's it for trending dresses. All right all right Boom right at the end of the song Thanks, I that's like pure that's professional radio work. She knew to do it. I knew how much time I had to argue and That's why I had to cut Brian off and move on. Wait, can we interrupt her now? Me too. Bye All right, uh, so I guess we just jump do we jump right into news or what? Okay, go ahead Brian. There really is no way to prepare for this. So how's everybody on the chat? Are we good? Any questions or anything? We're having no people are just commenting having fun. All right. Cheers to everyone watching I'm empty. Oh, geez Maybe we can refill that um We can refill while Justin does the news. Yeah. Oh, thanks. We're gonna go do other things. Yeah He's drinking water I mean, I understand why you have a gallon like throughout the day. He started that yes But I'm drinking more of these right. Okay. All right. Here we go And no no air industry news from justin scott I love how your face you're like It's like you swell up like you become like another human being I become Ron of the spirit of Ron Burgundy All right, there you go the news Awesome. We have a few things Uh, the first thing I found I was looking through articles. Um, and there's a lot of different Ola Plex type products coming out Yeah, um, but the funny thing is is that they're using the last they're using the prefix Plex I know So cheesy to me, but I mean I don't know because I mean obviously They need to draw that they need to I mean every shampoo is called shampoo. So they got like no I think they're doing that To make people understand that it's like, yeah, obviously. Hey, we're like what we're trying What we're uh, the first one I found is called bond plex real original. Um, what do you guys think it works on? It works on the bonds. Um Hair forensic laboratories is the company that's coming out with this uh Use the hair treatments to prevent damage without adding processing time or change developer level, which I thought was a big difference I don't know how to change developer level. Yeah, we talked about this Um, because if you add anything to developer even if you're adding like an oil to developer to keep like your Your bleach your light and you're not so, you know dangerous. You're still Lowering the developer. Yeah. So unless you're adding developer to your product You can't necessarily say you won't lower developer or change processing time, right? Um, well, we've talked about like a dean from olaplex is a good friend of of of the r's and the show and Uh, he supported a lot of things that we're doing. Uh, you know Olaplex does not Developer, I mean it does but the only reason it's just like putting water in there or anything else Yeah, you're just diluting the developer. So for a company to say that Come out with a product that does not affect the developer I don't understand how it's possible. So that kind of sent like a red flag up for me But then it says it does the same things it builds bonds buffers existing ones pretty much the same things olaplex does um She seals a cuticle So pretty much does everything olaplex does but doesn't change your developer your processing time whatsoever. It's amazing. Yeah magic It does everything plus the one thing olaplex doesn't do right and just so you know I You live on a bed of lies I looked it up for you the suffix of plex means comprising a number of parts as in duplex Sweet. So plex means there's a whole bunch of things coming together. All right, whether it's a lot a lot That's what they were thinking about li plex. Okay. The next one I found blonde plex blonde plex The next one is called color flex color flex color flex. Can you look up the definition of flex? Yeah, it's under that. Can you show us what that definition of left is? I was just saying you mean the definition of flex As in um directions to the beach No, I don't think so Never mind, sorry about that. Uh, this the only difference is says it's derived from a natural vegetable protein molecule Um, it helps reduce damage by reinforcing Bonds similar thing, but it's only meant for lightening and color I saw nothing in there saying it can be used on perms or Uh, straightening treatments, which the first one you could use So this one does less than old plex can't use it as much stuff as old plex and it doesn't apply itself like the first one does Well, people are tearing it. I know I was just gonna say people are not a fan so far of any of anything else I don't bother with anything other than old plex. So, I mean, yeah, don't use anything as a role of plex That's what we that's that's me and there's a disclaimer so I can say that I agree with everybody in the chat room and I'm sure everybody watching just stick with all the plex I don't care what color line you're using. It works for that. What did they say? Don't fix it. It's not broke. Don't fix it Yeah, yeah, there we go. And trust me, it'll work with your color I don't care what color you use. Yeah now that people are saying that it doesn't they're just bitter It works with your color line. Just use it. They're bitter because their color line brain washed them Not to think my favorite thing and we were talking and I and I uh, you know, I've had conversations about this I'm not going to say with who but it's funny because these companies that are coming out saying We do not work our color does not work with ola plex. They are Idiots because when you think about all these people Ola plex because all the great things that it does and guess what they're going to find a lightener to use that does Oh, well, I can't use their lightener. Well, I want to use ola plex So there's a million lighteners out there that I can use that work with it. So, sorry I'm leaving you and guess what if the if your salon rep is smart, they're going to play off of that Yeah, yeah, so go on to my instagram and see you can use ola plex and make somebody from red to blonde in one day Yeah, and they have hair hair felt Yep. All right. Yeah, so that was my first story. I found kind of Um, what else we got going on here matrix matrix has color boosters out there I think we have a picture of those. Did you send the picture of those? Yep, cool I have a picture of everything except for those Um Huh, but yeah, uh, you can use them really quick. It's not the time for secrets, right? I'm reading ahead and I'm I just got really excited. She's actually singing like she normally does I want to steal your segment. She's like, oh, did you see this yet for all of you in the chat room? We get to know first in case if you didn't notice only if you read for my laptop But yeah, so the color boosters are used for their so color system and their color sync formulas Those two lines only there's four additives. They've come out with the blues reds coppers and yellows and they're supposed to neutralize Just like a normal additive wood, you know unwanted tones Blues use the neutralized black brassy tones reds are actually used to intensify reds and red copper Work with uh, uh, uh, auburns warm browns golden blond um But the cool thing about them is you can You should just walk that over the cool thing you can do is you can make sure it's clear to make pastel tones or just use these uh Blank as um like by themselves you can use them as vivids almost on like pre-lightened hair So you can use the gold blue copper or the red just out there to do some fantasy colors So I'm I want to go buy some of these and try them out and see what I can do with them What colors I can make Thanks, brian Consents Otherwise that threw that glass across the floor. See it's right in the camera. No one would have known if you wouldn't have said anything Keep it going. Um, but yeah, so those are the matrix color system boosters And you nobody got anything say about the no paying attention great Uh redkin came out with I don't know why it's limited edition, but it's uh, so people will buy yeah Is this that no it's not Does it say limited edition on the bottom redkin on it? No Well, you know what that's that color bond or no, that's a different thing chris. That's the that's the laser thing Okay, I can't we talk about it. I don't have the limit. Okay. Well redkin's coming out It's pretty much like uh, like just temporary hair color to put on Okay, which is I think it'll be cool Uh to throw out there because it's from a major company Usually a lot of these companies don't make like color chalks or temporary colors that like they put into their Product lines for people to use and so on that's fun. So it'll be fun I mean if that's a color line you work with to do like, uh, like a Not a fake but like a temporary ombre to see if you have somebody who's like really on the fence about it You can't sell them. Yeah, um, they last anywhere from two to five washes Depending on the hair itself, but the name's really cool Let's see. They have knock em blonde. No holds brunette hazel and confused Call the coppers Yeah, so that's what redkin's all about You forgot the rose revolution that didn't know who cares about that I do. Oh, you do? Yeah I think I said you Oh, yeah, so we have a hair system here for people who have uh thinning hair you can rip the laser brush now Are you can't do something because like I had something along the lines The grande hair stimulates I saw this in Sky mall like five years ago. Yeah, it's just I'm reading I'm reading, you know, it's just now coming down to us mortals Yeah, um, I love sky mall. I think it's like my favorite part of flying I know I wish I could get back because they went out of business. I know what What now I don't need to go I said the sky mall app and I actually bought stuff from it. Wait last We didn't have sky mall on it. I'm just as soon as I got on a plane That's it. We're flying somewhere. No, so christina said, uh, well, we got on a plane one time with christina I don't get on a plane with christina that often, but he doesn't take me anywhere Then I can go you mean Wait, I want to go. No christina you mean christ So as soon as christina gets on a plane she starts wiping everything like the magazines on her face seats No with that No, this was with hayden because hayden gets sick on every vacation if we get onto a plane The poor kid ends up sick. Remember in disney? Yeah, no, no, yeah His face on everything. No I started wiping down where he was sitting so he wasn't putting because he'll touch everything and we look over And right next to us right over the aisle in the other row The woman was doing the same thing to her husband and her child And did hayden get sick? Nope. And did we get sick? Nope, so it officially worked. Hey mad. Do we ever get sick on our trips? No, just kidding. Yes, he does Matt you do come home all run down. So hold on They let you go through security with poor ox wipes Um, yeah, yeah, well, they're not they were um, like uh Anti-bacterial wipes, not chlorox, but I'm not sure if the bleach has something like different, but yeah, I don't wipe hayden I don't do it off I don't have an issue. I just did it on no, you don't have an issue No, it actually it makes a lot of sense. Like I'm giving you a hard time, but I always make sure that when you sign my check Age where he puts everything in his mouth like his fingers go in his mouth Matt's going to notice this the next time you fly but anytime I get into my seat I always push the air vent away from away from you. I did the same thing or I shut it Oh, I push it right on Turn it up. The guy next to me I did that once and I go oh, you don't want that. Yeah, that's fine I Person next to me if Oh, that's fine All right, what else we got Justin well, we're going to talk about this uh this grande hair system Because it made me laugh while I was doing it because it includes a stimulating laser comb Oh You hear that I want my comb to have lasers as well as my sharks Sharks, yes It uses get ready for this low level laser technology and high tech leds to stilely Sell metabolism. Do your combs have lasers? Like what the hell is this? It's a it's a light up comb. It's a light up brush that they're calling the comb I know that's a thing though, right? Yes, but I'm just saying though the Listen, they say use it three times a week for 10 to 15 minutes for two to four months and you may see two to four months You may see you may see with these laser beams. Yeah So I mean any at-home laser treatment. I don't trust it wasn't here that we was at your news that we reported that if you Pulled the hair out. Yes. That was like last week or the week before we should do the video on that All right And the last thing I have we'll try it. Well, I'll do the laser beam brush and on my head and we can try the uh, the beard That's fine. No, okay Fuller than your head you guys work it out. It's the unicorn tribe. I'm gonna Yeah, exactly everybody shut up for a second the unicorn tribe is speaking. Um, there's a The other day, uh, this hair has kind of like taken over the inner webs again. It's the newest hair color Fat, I think they're going on with. Um, it looks really cool. I saw it But it's one of those hair cut colors that like I want to see after the shampoo once Um It has but this the person who did their names, um, alex That's all the same person didn't Kelly Clarkson have that? Uh, her name's alex. No hers is like Just in regular colors. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, her name's alex sirener sirener. I can't pronounce it, but uh, She is being called the leader of the Hair color Founder of the unicorn tribe a collection of like the leaders Came up with that on her own. I was gonna say that that sounds like a The self-proclaimed leader, but uh, no like the hair she did it looks cool at all But like the outro music that they do it like the austere He's he's trying to cut. Um, there's a guy on instagram major moon. Do you guys follow him? No He does all like these fantasy And um, is he a leader of the moon tribe? Where's he from? um I don't know, but he has a major moonshine.com where he sells this moonshine glitter gel that I think dry Yeah, it's super cool. Love it. Um, want it? But yeah, if you follow him on instagram, it's His name is daniel moon And I sound familiar. He works at the andy la comp la comp salon. So that's out. Okay, you know Okay Oh, wait, maybe you do follow him. But you might follow him. Maybe that's why sorry I brought this up because like this post has over like three million views on it a ton of comments Like already around the world and I'm seeing people like post it on different hair sources And I bring this up not because of how she did it which I brought I had him put this picture up because you can see like She lightened it to a certain point But even on ours I saw people are asking like how much would you charge for the service? And I feel that I personally I Responded to the question, but I saw it on so many different groups of You know, like hairdressers all on social media Questioning charging for services like this and I think it's one of those things where there's no cookie cutter answer to it I mean, I'd try and eat your guys, you know opinions on it, but If I came into salon and brian and dray all sat down in the same person's chair and matched chair The same length of hair and said do this to us. You'd have three totally different ticket prices Yeah, mine being the most expensive because my hair doesn't live for crap You know like but right You have to educate your clients too because I saw a lot of people like how would I be able to do this? um Educate your client on are you gonna come back and Take care of this every few weeks because how's that gonna look after single shampoo? Even after that can you imagine trying to go back and recreate that again But what I did, I did notice though is she kept it pretty uniform But uh, she she did what I do is she mixed a lot of different color lines to make that color She didn't just use one stick with one. You know consistent line, right? She's joy co and it's not even harder joy co Um, well if you know a lot of lines, yeah But she used like certain colors from certain lines joy co I think redkin and rusk to make that plus another one she made some Which is kind of cool. I thought but what do you guys feel about that? The one thing I feel is about nobody talks. Yeah. No. No, I feel the same way as you do. I mean, I don't I'm never doing this ever. I mean If a client asks for this she's gonna pay Seven hundred dollars and never come back. So I don't have to worry about the retouch So is that what I have to do for wedding here? Huh? Yeah, that's exactly what you do for wedding here But that's but that's a thing like she she would have to pay so much money for that that client Right there does not have that much money for the most part. It's it's not practical That's not a that's not somebody with money that's getting that done. I mean, that's something you do Instagram picture, but clients aren't coming in asking porn Like if you came in with the platinum wig, I would do it. I would do it to your hair in a heartbeat Yeah, we would all do it. It would just it's going to be expensive and it's going to be maintenance on it I think once you explain the maintenance to people they're going to be very shy to have it done And if they want to do the maintenance, that's cool. But I don't think you're recreating that No, I think that this is more a hairstyle that you're doing for a photo shoot or on like one of your friends who Came to you with a like all right like This sounds fun. Let's give it a shot. Yeah, but I mean, I think the one thing I have enjoyed seeing is people trying to recreate similar Similar variations of this and yeah, like just like the haircuts aren't happy for that color Or like they they apply the reds around the hairline and they paint the face It looks like When they go to show that I think that's my favorite part about this fad I picture this like um Like When you see a hairdresser on their day off that has like the vibrant pink or like whatever color hair But they're not in like their hairdresser uniform hairdresser like clothes or whatever They're just like walking around the mall Like this is like one of those things like you to wear this you have to dress up You have to dedicate that's a lifestyle. Yeah, it's like tattooing your neck Right No, all right, so is that the news All right, so we have free pong so let's uh, let's start the phone calls. So 844 fsc live that let's get the On the the thing the table the actual number for that. I'm busy Everyone has letters on their numbers anymore What if someone has a black What's the numbers for if they have a blackberry they can't call it. Yes, they can Who has a blackberry? I had one back in the day back in the day. Everyone had one. I think one of that I have a client who still has I think so. Yes, she's not calling my They had one even if you have an iphone. It has the letters for the numbers does it? Yeah, does I just check that's it. I'm returning my iphone 6 case again. I'm very just it's 844 If f is three three seven and then three Three seven five four eight three. All right. We got somebody call an Oh, hi Yes, I don't ask me how I know that I just have Color ID Well, welcome to splitting hairs. How are you Megan? Who Megan? I am fantastic. How are you Megan? Where are you from? Ohio Ohio, okay, great All right friends in Ohio. Yep up in Cleveland and are you at the salon right now? Are you off? I just got off work. Okay. All right. Cool. So you know, do you know the rules of free palm? Yes, I do. Okay, so we have Your choices of picking people Dina that Brian Draya Justin and Matt or Third time's the charm. It's funny. It's funny to watch Mac go, but only pick him if you don't want anything All right, so she's picking Brian. So your your prizes could be a Amica five piece iron set. Minerva beauty has some cool stuff on there We have a bolly box from sunlight's bollyage. We have t-shirts. We have combs Uh And hunters all kinds of fun stuff. So and uh three months free of mevo as well. So Brian's gonna throw the first ball It's not farther All right. All right, so let's get some uh, brian. Let me get Going for your uh for your ball throwing here. All right, brian's throwing the first ball She said go brian And he makes the first one shot. All right, look at brian with the skills. All right, we're spinning the wheel What is it Ys park. So you want a ys park comb. All right, awesome. All right, so we're gonna throw the uh throw the ball again He missed missed. All right hit christina Let's go a third time Oh Everyone gets a comb All right, so you that is matt today. You do win a comb. So congratulations One ball brian Hey, I still have more balls than all of you. That's true I haven't gotten picked yet. Well, that got a ball in I got two. I'm up to three now Yeah, but you can't it's not how many in total in total. I have way more balls than all of you combined Let's do an average All right, so thank you so much for calling in you want a ys park comb So all you have to do is email me matt at freesaloneducation.com and Give me your address and we'll ship you out. I'll ship you out a few combs. Thanks for picking me. I love you Sorry, I didn't get more. I'm gonna give you all of brian's combs All right, brian's going to come work to the board. I'll send you one of my combs. Thanks. Thanks for watching. Thank you Absolutely, thanks you guys. All right. See you later. Bye See you later. Bye. Yeah, brian if we do uh averages you have uh two And I have like 2.5. So I went on average. No, you don't never left the wheel up here I made two out of three that we're trying to tell you something do your one job He's got a lot of jobs actually pad. He's got to push the button on the camera. He has to get you drink Yes, put up the free will and he's on instagram the whole time and he's taking blurry photos. He's kicking ass Pretty soon. It's gonna be making sure your mouth Can we start that one now? Oh christina brazil's in the house All right, so it's a brazilian thing You wouldn't get it. Did you guys have fun? We did. Did we cover everything? What is everything I feel I feel so much better than I did last week. I feel like we must have missed something I don't have a headache. So I know it's a week 51 it's over Well, next week if it's just a brace with a What the hell's a head brace, you know, like new grills because his mouth is broke That's a question. They don't do that. That I don't look like animal lector. They just All right, so we have what are you doing? Next week next week on splitting hairs. We're gonna have an interview with sam vias Andrew Carruthers. Yeah. So yeah, so that should be really fun. I shot that interview in she So we have a couple more a couple more interviews that I have to edit for that So that'll be coming up next week. Uh, again, we have some fun stuff coming up with bercato This weekend and just learning some some fun stuff from them Uh, thank you to millennium systems international get their software If it's not if you don't have a software running your salon or you have a software You're not happy with Millennium, uh, check it out Uh, again visit milleniumsi.com and then demandforce.com as well Minerva beauty We live in these beautiful beauties. Super beauty. They can't pry me off the stools It's true We used to have pains in our asses after the show and now we do not because we now we just have one. Is it bad? So thank you to minerva beauty.com get all of your salon furniture Towels and capes and all of that stuff. We use their towels, too We should do a review on those but someone just said matt. What about the graduation question? They're a graduation question from this morning. We're supposed to head on. Yes Thank you for the reminder. Good job, kelly. Um, kelly kareka. Yeah, thanks Okay, so that question I believe was on the community All right. Well, I just know that she was talking chatting today. I don't I like she was chatting this morning Can we uh, can we try to find that question or can she type it in real quick kelly? What's the question you want to hear real quick? Stop stop. What do we hear? Freaking out. It's being reckless like me. I'm I'm almost I'm almost there Oh I want to play on facebook too I know I said I'm going to answer that But what was that? I don't know There's been so many things today. Kelly call us. Oh, here we go. Kelly. Yeah, we found it. Why is it so much harder to cut? Slight horizontal graduation on a longer bob. I feel like it should be The same thing I have the image in my head, but I always get lost any tips so um Longer bob, I mean on a longer bob I I really don't cut I'll cut diagonal or vertical because I feel like when you're cutting horizontal and you're holding everything out It's very difficult when you have that much hair that you're working with that length or The depth of the hair when you're working with that Or to keep control of your elevation uh within a longer shape plus you don't want to create hard lines on a Longer bob, you know, like you don't want hard baselines or anything like that So you really your biggest focus on a long bob is the elevation, you know what I mean? So like if you were um, like I think about Like on a shorter bob We're really focused on shape and creating that bold shape So we cut it horizontally, but on a longer bob We're really concerned with the weight distribution how much weight we're taking out So we go vertically because you have this much control of the actual weight and how much weight you're removing or leaving But when you cut horizontally you only have control of this much Of the actual weight that you're removing But you have a lot of control of the the actual shape. I gotcha Does that make sense? So I hope that that helps her if it made sense to me I guarantee it made sense to her It's too hard to that's why I say on some of these people like I'll I'll answer on splitting hairs because it's so hard To write that to to help you understand But really when you're working, uh, you want to focus on shape you go horizontal But mostly I would I would do that on short hair And then when you want to work on how much elevation you want to have more control of the elevation then work vertically I have control of kind of both of them. Then you work diagonal, which is what we did today Uh in the class this morning. So Hopefully that helps everybody. I hope so All right, um, I guess that's it No, no interview today, uh, we're gonna have an interview with andrew crawler's next week He does a ton of videos for sam via and he works hand in hand with him So I think it we had a really cool conversation in chicago Uh, make sure you check out brian on instagram hairstyle h.a.i.r.e style Andrea dry day 2289 Justin I miss I am justin scott Follow us at freesalon education christina at underscores steanie Bad bull nice Bad bull nice Thank you guys so much for watching splitting hairs and hanging out with us on every wednesday night So check us out next week 7 30 p.m. Eastern standard time or as close as we can get we are close today. Yeah, we did All right, guys. We'll see you guys next week. Thanks for watching Watch splitting hairs the hairdressers podcast live every wednesday night at 7 30 p.m. Eastern standard time or as close as we can get it