 Oh, are we live? Oh, we're live. Your lipstick is not fine, bro. We're live, bro. We're live. Oh, it's been a while. How long has it been, Siddhan, since we've been off? Three weeks? Three weeks, yeah. Three weeks. So firstly, first and foremost, thank you to all of you for joining us for not only a brand new episode of 420 Grams, for a brand new season of 420 Grams. Look, when the car has to run for a long time, sometimes it's important to take a break in the car so that we can fuel up and get ready again. And honestly speaking, in these three weeks, a lot of you have been asking us where have you been? We've gone away from our Sunday fix. But we had to take a break and honestly speaking, there was not much to talk about. I know you're getting closer to the ISL season, which is why we've come together today. Two weeks before the start of a brand new ISL season, season seven of the Indian Super League, which will be played in completely new conditions that you would expect in any other season to take place. And as always, you know our usual suspects, and I'm really looking forward to this season. Because this is going to be our fun season. We've got Jaiti Basu as always. We've got Siddhanthani. Bairabh Raghunandan has got some internet issues, so he will be joining us shortly. But also I'm really delighted to welcome to the team on a regular basis now. Ms. Sharda Agra, ma'am, thank you so much for joining us. As someone who understands not just sport, not just Indian football, but the entire system, the ecosystem. Because our show is special, we don't just hit the goal or the tactics of the player. We do it on the entire system. And when you have to hit the whole system, it's important to know the system well. So in that aspect, ma'am, thank you so much for joining us. Every Sunday, you will be invited. First of all, did you come to the show or did you come to the Zoom link today? Jaiti, it's great to be here. Thank you Arjun for this very flattering and holistic view that you have given. It's nice for me. I'll be able to duck underneath some specifics. I have a holistic view. But just before we get starting, Jaydeep sir, how have you been by the way? What's been keeping you busy this last month? To put it very politically, I'm excited ISL is coming. That's all. Politically. Reading something about it and trying to remember the foreign names in ISL. Is your heart beating faster with the season-inching-closer? Yes, there are more people to increase the beating of the heart. Hi, hi, hi. What's the matter? Look, there's a new season and a new episode. But our intentions haven't changed. Someone will be late, no matter what. Honestly, the only reason I'm late is because you guys are always late. I thought I'd be late because of your time. Look, this is a very democratic platform. There are a lot of people on the chat. There are around 25 people watching right now, brilliant. And if you think me, Siddharth and Jaydeep sir, Sharda, of course, is starting now for the first time this season regularly. But if any of the three of us are getting late regularly, then tell Bebhav. And if you think Bebhav is wrong, then please put it down in the comment section. If you feel like taking a ticket, take it. We'll make sure that message goes to him. But anyway. Also for all the viewers and all for you guys also, everyone, since I'm the only one who is residing in an area with clean air, I thought I would show you guys some clean air. This is what nature looks like. I'm speaking for Bangalore and it says the air is quite clean here also. I have to say. I can show that, but for a show-off, we can't do that. What's the matter? There are three very quiet Delhi people here. They don't speak anything. The silence is, of course, telling you all about what's happening in Delhi. But, Ani Bhai, you must have seen that, who chooses our photos? This is your photo that you went to see a tiger in Ranthambore. That 420 grams is back. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. I wanted to see a tiger. Shanika is an able producer who is hiding behind the curtain. She is single-handedly responsible for the billion. If we are not photogenic, then what can we do? Choose your photos. You must have made your own portfolio. Send it. Next time, at least, choose one. My next comment was that, I think these guys should also like the football players pose like this. I think all of us should also do one pose. And then you guys and your fantastic team can crop it together and make it look like a proper team. That's a good idea. Fair enough. We'll have to get haircuts also for everyone. You will have to spend money for that. You are not telling me. You are not telling me. Jaydeep sir and me, when it comes to haircuts, Jaydeep sir and me are on the opposite ends of the spectrum but believe in the same thing. They are unnecessary. Prateek Mishra has a comment. Arjun Pandit is usually late. Weber was absolutely right. Well done buddy. I have put a lot of push-ups. I have put a lot of push-ups. I have put a lot of push-ups. This is almost like a Gharji. Let's start. It's going to start from November 20. It is the topmost league in the country. Accept it? Siddhanth. Accept it. It is the topmost league in the country and your topmost league but your topmost players are starting their season post this pandemic on the 20th of November which is happening in Goa. The entire tournament is happening in Goa courtesy of the pandemic. There will be no crowds in the stadium and a total of three stadiums in Goa if I'm right. I've been which will be hosting the fixtures. Yeah by Malin, Tilak Granth and this Fatoula. Yes so three fixtures and the very first fixtures on the 20th of November 7 30 p.m coming to you on the one on only stars votes. Wow. Kerala Blasters taking on ATK Mohan Bagan and it's quite a weekend because on Saturday the 21st you have Northeast United taking on Mumbai City. And by the way this is the Mumbai City post the takeover from the city football group. And then on Sunday you have a really big game. You have FC Goa taking on Bengaluru FC. All three games are taking place at 7 30 p.m kickoff time. So whether we'll start with you because the obvious one being rather than both East Bengal Mohan Bagan have also arrived this time season. The city football group has also arrived. A wholesome like affair look right. But just keeping in mind the pandemic and the bubbles that every team has created for themselves. You have done a little bit of research which says that people's body makes it a little bit soft. They are called masoos before you start thinking anything else. They have told you what is going on. What kind of stipulations are going on there. The body makes it soft and sweet. But actually there's no jazz to see. This is all everyone it's available publicly like the COVID protocols in place for the ISL. So all the teams they had taken test any teams that were traveling by road. There were some teams that traveled by road. Some came by flight. The South teams actually went by road some of them to Goa. They were all put into isolation for a while. All of them are in hotels where floors have been booked for them. They subjected to three tests every week. You have to pass week. Yes you have to pass three tests in a row before you can play. And besides that if you do test positive then you have to again self-isolate for 14 days. Again you have to pass three tests in a row and then you'll be allowed to play. So that's what's actually just about 15-20 minutes back. It is a completely different anecdote but it's just to prove something important. A few days back where I am the head of department of the medical hospital here. He had come over and he was telling my father that a few days back here in our city Saksimara was coming. Opposition leaders were coming and telling him to get his test done. Please get him tested positive. He was saying how can I get him tested positive? What can I do? And then he gave a counter example also. He said that someone had come from the other side and someone else was a political leader. So he was told to get his test done positive even if you are the one who gets it done negative. Because he has to give the word. It's very important. Go Corona, go. No but just tell me something. If I had a positive test then the protocol of the positive test would have isolated you. But if you have a positive test then what will you do about it? See if you do test positive, you will do it only if you are getting it done 3 times. If you are testing it 3 times then 6 of us are playing every day of the week and we are getting tested 3 times a week. And say I test positive. Then we know immediately that you guys have obviously been in contact with me. But none of you have tested positive at all. So you are safe, you are done. And until now there have been no pre-season matches have happened. You know what the players are, what the squads are. And you are easily able to do that. Data will tell you who is testing positive, who is in. Obviously there will be variables. Obviously I'm sure some broadcast crews, some family members and all. I don't know if there are any family members. But there are always external externalities in a football event. So those people will come in contact. But from what I understand and this is not an opinion. This is something that has come through after conversation. They are very strict about who you're meeting. They are very barricaded and there is no scope of anyone meeting someone without the management knowing about it. This is what has come through. Bazaar, just a question Fabian. Have any of you tested positive and I'm not saying that you are positive. But just have you gone through it? Yeah, yeah. I have been. I just got it done recently. The nose goes here and the tears come out. Now imagine having to do that 3 times a week. It's irritating man. Any conversations you've had with Ashwak as to what is the specific bubble that he's allowed to operate in? What is he allowed to do on a daily basis beyond going for practice? Yeah, I mean, I think pretty much whatever was saying that essentially anyone who's in the bubble is restricted in terms of movement just between the hotel and either the training facility or the stadium. That's it. No third place. No. So in the hotel, what is my restriction? There is a three-tier system almost. Okay, so the first year, the most important, I think they're called like valuable, something like that. I forget what exactly that the words used were all over the place. But there's a three-tier system. So the first year, the most important people are the coaches, the players, the team owners, the management, people like that. So they are being subjected to the deepest scrutiny. They put in like very serious hard bubbles. The second tier is broadcast crews and people who are going to be involved with the match day operations. And the third tier is the stadium staff, who are, well, they're not going to come in direct contact with the players. They're not going to come in direct contact with the broadcast crews either. And so they're subjected like whatever, once a week test. The others are twice a week test and third is three times a week. So that's like a tier system. So in the hotel, obviously different teams are staying at different hotels. So some of us read out, Goa is, I suppose, resort central. So several hotels are not building like they would be in a city, but they're spread out cottages, et cetera, et cetera. So players do have a little bit of freedom to move around in that sense. They also have specially designated gyms within the hotel. So they are not kind of meeting other guests. The dining areas are separate for the team. Yeah, because this is going to be busy season in Goa now. In fact, like all the, by the way, in fact, that's also very interesting is that like all the teams have like, the players have been given some little bit of workout equipment in their rooms. So that like just in case you do end up, like, you know, just in isolation or quarantine, you still have like some exercise bands, a few dumbbells and barbell and like you have stuff to do. Yeah, I think because also of how long the lockdown has been, I mean, since March and stuff like that. And with football shutting down, when some of the players started doing that stuff apne api, to stay in shape, to stay fit, all of that. So I think that's something that will continue. Plus also how else will they feed their social media? You can just jump in about the bubble. Is it because they've just finished this, the other big tournament whose name I will not take. And they've just finished that. So what has happened is that you also have the, I'm sure it's there with the football guys, they give you these bands, which are like your, you know, you get followed around if you break the bubble, if you go outside this space where you are supposed to be. So in the hotel on these particular floors or in the match in this particular place. And obviously there's one company that's doing it. I don't know if they're doing it for that event and ISL also. But that one, there's an app. Yeah, so the company that does it, does it like it's uniform. It happened with the Premier League players as well. It happened everywhere there's football. It was just one company doing these things and they seem to have worked. You know, it seemed to have worked as best as you can make it work. The interesting aspect, like yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. Is it the same company that makes those, those bands for, like the ones in America that put them in house arrest? Oh, it's the probation, probation one. Yeah, I mean, the electronic colour, it's sort of like, it's sort of like that. It has, because that's how you a lot, you know, if you break that, absolutely the most valuable bubble, if you break, then, then sort of an alarm triggers off. And we've read all these cases of various people in their other sport being caught for doing this, you know, in other sports as such being caught. I think Chennai Super Kings' cover came out. What is Chennai, what is Chennai Super Kings? So that immediately after, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. There is a cricket team, a yellow type cricket team. No, but ma'am, ma'am, my point is that the words, sorry Sharda, now it's regularly, so Sharda regularly, what am I saying? Sorry, in the beginning of the tournament, you were the world's biggest league, the other game, and as soon as you came in, 4-5 players tested positive, then they went back, they didn't go back, they didn't specify what they did. But this is the specialty of that sport, that it can suppress the news. I would, I want to know if they can suppress the news in football, also, what happened? I'm sure like, all that, I think the football players have got used to this thing that this is going to happen, you know, they are not so far away from our family and we are not in another country. Okay, but the world's biggest event that happened, families had gone. I don't think here in football, along with the large teams, you have families and children, also they said, please, this is the best that we can do. Also, like I think the amount of time that's always gone. One more thing, one more thing, the first set of positives that happened, they also happened because that same team had had pre-season training, which nobody else had had, you know, they were the first ones to have, and I don't know whether it was so tightly managed as it was in Dubai, when the event happened, in the UAE, when the event happened. But they had this pre-season training, and then the second story will go on. We will know everyone in the program. It's a big story, it's a big story. Oh, so you know, there are four or five different variations that go on. Let's not get into that yet. Let's football, huh? Let's football, let's football. But that's what I think any, I mean, of course, this is saying this is not supposed to be a constant, but any cases that may have happened, anyone who may have tested positive within the ISL bubble, we already haven't heard about them. So, if you're thinking about... No, there were a couple. There was a couple that didn't come. Yeah, one or two. There are two Mirgulaw, although I'm not on Twitter now, but Mr. Mirgulaw has, I think, five or six such guys who were tested positive. Yes, they were positive, but we haven't heard about them yet. So, I don't know. I mean, maybe we'll hear about it. But also, like, an interesting aspect for me, sorry again to, like, take this away to another league, because that is the league that we are going to watch. Be honest, guys. It's like the amount of expense this is, this is for, like, the ISL. This thing will be in the I-League, or not? It's very doubtful. The people I've talked to, they were all saying... No, but the I-League is important. ISL is coming, ISL, ISL, ISL. We've just stopped the brother. We said that India's flag, CPI's flag, we won't cut it. We'll cut the ISL flag. No, we're cutting the Rajat's flag. Okay? No, okay, fair enough, fair point, but the I-League is in January. So, I, Jaydeep sir, am saying that if I were a player, or if I tell you that I have to go to Mumbai for some work, okay? I've been told that if the flight is on 25th, then 24 should have a negative certificate in your hand. As soon as you reach, 25 will be sent to your hotel, you'll be sent to the hotel room, then 26 can work in the studio, work, work, work, work, work, and this will be the three tests in a week. Now, the studio people are more controlled because it's a small team, so it won't be necessary for the band. Now, even if the band is on me, I'm a player. Sir, a player, I mean, whatever you know, there's a protocol, I'm saving my health, I'm saving the league, because not something I'm doing for myself. But if I'm in a mental state, then I'll have to press a little, I won't do this, I won't do that, how do I let loose? How do I let off steam at the end of the day? Yes, that's true, but now the situation is that you'll have to believe it. They have been briefed again and again and again by the management. The coaches are coming, the counsellors are coming, they are saying. So, and we have seen despite all this, without all this, we have seen the high league qualifiers who have held in Calcutta, five teams played that. Of course, it's a small tournament, only a much smaller tournament. But they managed it very well. One player from the league team was tested positive, one player or some messower or coach, I don't remember who. Apart from that, they... Comments, yes sir, jobby tested positive, northeast coach, Khalid Jameel tested positive, because Jairu Abhispengal tested positive in his own home only before coming. Yeah, yeah. So, they are there. So, I'm saying that if we don't go to Pampan Gate, they think his second division high league was done quite properly. Of course, I'm not comparing again, because that's a five team tournament and an eight day tournament. This is a much longer tournament and a much bigger players and bigger number of teams are involved in it. So, but since they have taken it up, the players must have been counselled again and again, how to go about it. So, they have to go about it. They are professional players, they have to do what they are told. Which I think three days back, Sunil has given an interview or he put it on Twitter, I don't remember that when Sunil said, it's a very difficult job, no doubt about it, but we have to go by it. If you have, I think all of you have read it, what Sunil had to say on this. Okay, okay. I think ma'am, just one thing, Sharda, sorry. We saw and we've seen not just in the world's biggest league, but we see in other sports that started post the pandemic without any crowd and sort of being in that bubble sort of situation. So, you're zeroed in, you're clued in. Now, how much you're clued in, we don't know, but you're clued in and as a result, the impact on the field was seen. The quality of the game was a lot more intense and a lot better and likewise could be said for the cricket barring these fat guys dropping catches like Haldiram players and all. I'm sorry, I'm a little confused. Are you talking about golf because Siddhant has this rice smile. I think you're not talking about Masters Golf. We've never seen Masters Golf. Sir, when we used to work in the news, we used to say that you're a journalist in the morning, go and sit and talk about Masters because you used to walk at night. I used to pick up such a copy and paste from BBC without thinking about it. I don't understand anything there. Sorry, Sharda, the fact is that as compared to the other sports, these boys have been in these protocols for much longer than anyone else. So, there's more time to get used to what is ahead, what is the s**t you and also the fact that there's no flights to catch, which is a big hindrance because every team wants to save money. You want to save money, which means you try getting a flight between 6am and 7am the next morning to save money. And then you're going haggard to the airport and so on and the body recovery is not there. So, there is a sense that keeping in mind all the other teams and the city and all that who come in, there is a sense that the quality of football on display should be a good one this time. Yeah, I think what's going to happen is that everyone's going to try and see the intensity with which they're playing in their first sort of week of game. But are they performing, are they looking rusty? So, the big thing for a lot of the sports when they started again was are they rusty? Are tennis players rusty when they started playing some of the Grand Slams and so on? A lot of the senior players in tennis perhaps didn't play, a lot of the cricketers looked out of shape, not a lot. Not fair to say a lot. Some amount, a small number. Compared to usual or just... Compared to cricket, you don't need epic levels of fitness because if your skill level is bad, then your fitness will not make much of a difference. If your skill level is low, same with football. I'm not saying the other thing, but football needs a certain higher intensity of physical level at which you're playing. Which is what you will see in the first week at least. And I think I always find that because footballers are generally not spoiled, I would think I would hope that they snap themselves into shape. So, I think that is what people are looking at. And the other thing that has been noticed once the spot has resumed in the pandemic is after some time, they'll tell you they want the crowd for intensity, but how much crowd have come to Indian football in the last year? You don't have packed stadiums in that way. So, they don't really need a crowd beyond a particular point. Beyond a particular point, they don't need like, you know, mass ranks of numbers. They kind of tune them out in that sense. So, let's hope that the football is of a standard where everything looks like, it's literally like they resumed where they had left off at a better level because they've got in the city group and now you've got the two big Calcutta clubs in as well. So, we are just hoping that because it's football. So, let's hope it's a higher standard. I don't know what you guys have to say about the other leagues that you saw, England, Germany, what you thought about the level of play when you watched them perform for the first time. Any, Bundesliga, Premier League, Saria? I mean, my only thing is the intensity is much higher, man. Yeah, I don't know what they said. Yeah, there's definitely a lot less distraction, a lot less playing to the gallery because there's no gallery to play to. I think initially, in the first two weeks, I felt a little weird. I think players were also a little weird that it was a completely empty stadium. And all this stuff now that's happening with the broadcast where you get to, at least those of us who are watching on television, get to hear some kind of crowd noise and all that. The players don't get any of that. And to be fair, they did a good job in the IPL with the sound. I thought they did a pretty good job. Yeah, I really can't comment too much. One interruption thing I'll button last time, that when you started watching the Premier League, after some time, you stopped listening for the sound yourself. You stopped listening to it. It went out of your head also. Even in IPL, the sound stopped. It's like you ignored it. At least you didn't have the DJ screaming in the IPL match. So even as a viewer, you shut the sound out. You didn't care because your attention was all on the game. I don't know, is the diving coming in or not? What do you think? Is the diving coming in or not? Diving, the relation. Sound? No, the player is diving. There's a lot less feedback that's coming now at an immediate level. So I think because of that, I don't know. I don't think we can make any sort of broad generalizations in terms of whether players are diving less or not. I mean, I haven't watched, for example, I believe Ronaldo is positive now. But diving, yes, he's always been. Yeah, so I haven't seen Ronaldo play actually in quite some time. So I don't know whether he's been up to his usual antics or not and several other weeks. And to be honest, I haven't really watched much of the Spanish league either with the sort of activities, very much a part of the training ground process and all of that. But the Anglo-Saxon says the Iberians dive. Well said, brah. No, no. I'm very good at it. Where's the Anglo-Saxon from? Bro, tell me where it's from. I can't see it on video. Where's the Anglo-Saxon from? Anyway. Just a lot of generalization. That's fine. But what were you saying? Intensity? I think because especially the players, what we're talking about the mental impact of being locked down or in a bubble or restricted or whatever, we're seeing that play out on the field with a kind of like more free expressing style. We've seen a lot more, I think goals. Because I mean, the players realize that this is the when they are on the page for that 90 minutes is when they are free to do actually what it is that they are out there to be doing. And that has been free. It's not free. Bro, it's the same. That you're suddenly stuck in your career. That this has happened, the money is going to be cut. So from above, that's what happened. Now I understand that what you're doing on the field, 90 minutes is your business. And if you want to make a profit in business, then I have to play well. It's a simple thing. No. Yeah. And I think coming to the ISL and Indian football, I think given that the first sport in India, which has been resumed after the lockdown, so then the numbers are also the interest level is much higher than it has been, I think in the past. If you leave aside, of course, Calcutta and the Derby in that. Overall, a lot more people are tuning in. Keen to see what's happening, keeping track of the news as it comes. So, and I think once the league kicks off, we may not be the biggest league in the world, but it will definitely be the biggest. Sixth most, or fourth most, will it be? No. Sixth most, or fourth most, will it be? Number one. Fourth most, football league. Then the highest, we'll mess with the highest. Where is the highest? Sixth most, I had heard of it before. I think I remember a stagnant saying it was watched more than the FIFA World Cup. Sixth best was six seasons ago. That's a six. Yeah, exactly. In the first season, it was six, now seven seasons. Actually, there's this intensity and all you guys are saying. This is like one concern. I'm sure every manager and well, what a strength and conditioning coach for all these teams must also be concerned about. If you see the Premier League, I was actually, this is something that I only know because two days back, we did a story about this. And there's like a 16% increase in injuries in the Premier League specifically. Muscle injuries? Yes, muscle injury. Yeah, that's fine. Exactly. And also what's happening is, and this is going to be even, I would assume, this is going to be the same in the ISL, you have a limited squad. Now, if X number of players test positive and Y number of players are injured because of muscular injuries, it puts like a huge amount of stress on the remainder. You know, to stay fit, to constantly be playing. And you have bigger squads. You've been allowed bigger squads this time. Yeah, you have been. Yeah, you're 35 exactly. This is a 35 member squad. But this is a problem that's been, like this is across leagues. So in Europe, they're doing the five sub rule. But in England, they're not. Yeah, but in England, they're not. They're doing the three sub rule still in England. And because of this, there's been like, I mean, massive amount of injuries, which is why also, this has also been cited as a reason for why a team like Yose Muriniyos is doing well. I'm just forgetting that the ones who are playing in England are playing Premier League, they're playing European League, they're playing FA Cup, and they're going to play international leagues. One of them is Malideh. Yeah, he's making Malideh for the four of them, and he's getting into it to play. So then there's no injury. But here, if you have an ISL and there's one game in a week, then there's one game in a week and you have Taj Agwada and Novotel and if you're staying there, if you can't recover there, then where will you recover? Because you don't have any flights, nothing. Now you just have to catch the bus and take it back. And now there's no traffic in Goa. So then what else? No, no, no, correct. Like I agree. I mean, yeah, they're playing a lot more matches. There's much more mileage in those games. But the standard of game will, I am not sure what will be the standard. Yeah, even I'm... Why do you say that? Why do you say that? Because the preparation which they have been able to, they have been able to, all most of the teams, the preparations, I think that's a school tournament preparation. That's not a top league preparation. You don't prepare for one month and get into the play, not playing after seven months. So I think in the first 10, 15 days in the first, at least in the first four, five, six rounds, there will be a lot of problems. But don't you think it's a positive that this time at least in the sense of... Sorry, if your pre-season friendlies were going to play first, like Thailand or here, it was more like a mini holiday. Okay. You're playing there and there's no intensity in these games. At least this time, they're playing against each other pre-season friendly. They're playing with each other. So that with the intensity will be there at least. See, if they were playing, playing, playing, they prepared friendlies previously, preparations, that was their problem actually. Because there was no intensity in that. I knew from the match that there was no intensity in the league. Anyone can say anything. Anybody who knows football, who knows, he knows that from today, from two seasons to the first of ISL, what match would have happened. You ask any coach... It has changed. It has improved since the last two seasons. That's what I'm saying. But the intensity that you're talking about can't be in this pre-season. You ask any coach. Every coach is basically perturbed about the fact that they have got so little time. What is it? He's playing Kerala blasters. One pre-season. Of course, they are not playing their main players. They are not showing their cards, everything. Like Habas. Mohan McGahn is not... Atk Mohan McGahn, I'm very sorry. Atk Mohan McGahn is not even playing one, one pre-season. Only yesterday Habas has said that I don't want to play any pre-season. Of course, he doesn't want to show his cards. That's the difference. So, your bubble is very good. Everything is good. Your hotel is very good. Food will be good. Everything will be good. Everything is good. But you don't have pre-season right now. That's not your fault. I'm not saying... It's not your fault. Of course, nobody's fault. No one has an advantage on it. That's why they will clear out... No, no. That could be. If, if, if, if... What does it mean? The one who says... If Anshant's football is level playing, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay, sir. Yeah, but... Where is Anshant's football? You tell me. What other ways does he have? No, I'm not talking about the way. I am again saying that is nobody's fault. But I think this is my fear in the first six rounds, five rounds at least. Football will be of not-of-great quality. First five rounds. I think so. Because the corrections... Five weeks. Five... Corrections have to come. The corrections have to be made on the ground. The moment a coach watches something, he will change it. You have... He has to be given time. And football is not like that great sport you are talking about behind. You have played football. You know it very well. Football is completely different. There are some sports which were with little less fitness. People can... You can feel in the long leg or in the third man and get away with it to an extent. But you cannot do it in any... In football. You know. And modern day football. Modern day football. Well, all 11 players are supposed to go up and come back. Which they do. So Mac, you know, I am not... I am not trying to find fault. I am only trying to... Trying to portray the picture which... Which I have spoken to a lot of coaches. Not all of them are ISL coaches. Some of them are general coaches. They are all afraid. Ani Bhai, what was the pre-season of Premier League? Before the season, what was the pre-season of Premier League? Nothing. Nothing. But they were playing regular... Those end-of-fixes, end-of-league fixtures, right? Yeah. So they got on to match-match zones in the way. If you say this, look at Barcelona's performance. Because they got a gap of two weeks. They just got a gap of two weeks and came back. That's why so many injuries, so many problems are having at the moment. Not only Barcelona... I sort of like... All the teams. All the teams. I kind of agree with Jareep sir. Even if you like draw this parallel with the Premier League or LaLiga. Last season, when the lockdowns were happening, they were playing in empty stadiums. There was a huge amount of intensity. The game quality was really high. But now you're seeing all these great goals. There are a lot of goals to see. But goals do not mean that the quality of the game is really high. Like at all. And you can see there's a lot of teams. Any team is beating any team. Yeah, which Vile is like... Which is not right. Which is great for television. But it just tells you that... It's also good for a neutral vibe. Yeah, it's great for television. It's great for television. See, if Lister wins the league three years in a row, then it's very bad for the league. That means your football is not good. Tell me one thing. All of you tell me. Why so? I didn't understand that one. So that means your standard of football has gone down. You tell me. Because that means... Lister won't be able to win the league three years in a row. I think. But if it's done, it could also be that they've put together a good enough squad to mount a serious challenge for that trophy. And other teams are not... What you're saying is that other teams are not performing up to the standard that they should be. That means the quality of players have gone down. That's what... This is the... What Jadisar is saying, this argument is... Which Asan Wenger has again and again pointed out. Even in his book, he has pointed out that if you have to win, you have to spend money. Without having the top players of the teams in your team, you cannot win the professional football these days. Tell me one thing. I'm just giving you a small example. You take 2005 tempo. All of you take 2005 tempo. You think Aizal Chennai or Minarba would have won the league? No. They can't. They can't. No way they would... All of you take 2003... No, 2003, 2005's have their own set of characteristics. Every league has its own set of characteristics. Challenges, negatives, positives. No, no, that is fine. I am not... So Joe, that thing, you know, when comparing teams over eras. That this one... I'm not talking... No, no. I said the teams that time were so... I mean, this is the same thing in ISL as well, which is not in the iLeague. iLeague has completely gone down. That is the reason. ISL, there are teams... I mean, like last year's ATK. You can't beat them. They were so good. FC Koji, Koa were so good. The others were far behind them. I just want to say this. Nothing else. That quality of players depends on a lot of things. Yeah, I guess I don't know. Basically, the point is that... I don't think we should be sitting around passing judgement on what kind of game quality there will be, either good or bad. Let's see a game first. No, no. I said that my fear is that first two, three weeks, I'm not going into four weeks. Even two, three weeks, there will be lots of ups and downs because a lot of corrections are being made. That's for sure. So your world's best cricket league was also there that was falling on the floor. What was happening? And things are much tougher in football than cricket. But that is one... I guess things are much tougher in football than they are in cricket. And that sort of stuff does apply to the Premier League and to the Champions League and things like that. But closer home in the Indian Super League, essentially, there's not much to lose for the teams that are in football. There's no relegation. There's no massive amounts of... There is no real pressure. So I'm not sure why teams would be particularly concerned by this. I think they can afford... Many of the teams already know, or at least some of the teams already know that they are not in the running for the Champions League. Not at least two teams which cannot do it. They have to win. They have to win. Okay. That's true. Okay. They don't have a way to do it. No, that's true. And then, according to them, they have made their own money expenses. They have bought players. That's true. They have made them into a big team. That's what I want to know. That's a good segue. I'm saying it's a good segue that we're talking about Bengals. So East Bengal and Mohan Bagan, who we talked about here, of those two teams. I think... Rather than getting Jadeep sir's views, who of course knows it inside out, Sharda, I'll just first ask you, the outsider's perspective for someone who's of course been aware of what's going on in the ISL, from its inception, what their aims are, democratically, undemocratically, decision-making, whatever the scene might be. It's been six years now. It's going to be seven years. In circumstances that have affected the entire world. So that counts for nothing. Zero. According to you, where has the car reached for someone who's been watching the sport from afar? And are they closer to achieving that objective or whatever that it is that they were wanting to do, seven years in? The objective, you know, when they started out, the ISL was let's create this leak that looks good on TV that everyone will watch that will become popular, et cetera, et cetera. But it's part of what has happened is, with the coming in of Mohan Bagan and East Bengal, in whatever form they have come, I'll keep calling, I keep referring to them as Mohan Bagan AP, Mohan Bagan AP, I'll get beheaded by somebody for saying it. What has happened is, it's brought this entire thing to life because these are clubs that come with a completely different place into Indian football. And when you start covering Indian football or at least finding a little bit more, you hear the mad stories behind them. You know, you see all the fighting that is going on about, on social media, about the ad and everything. And suddenly it has, it's almost like, Maru Mujekoi doesn't matter, that you have made ISL very, very relevant. And it literally has tied into what Indian football is about, you know, the mother madness. It's like, how can you have a Spanish league independent of the classical, you know, that kind of thing? We try to do it. It, and, and, and and because of marketing, you are able to do American sport is based on this creation of these franchises and leagues and so on. But it's almost like, the damage it will do to say, the I League itself, on what the consequences, damage in each other, consequences, what they'll be that we'll find out later. But the advantage and, and the sort of validity, this has brought the ISL is enormous. You would just want the two clubs, to perform at a professional level of, say, like my city club, Bangalore, Bangalore. Not, not united. You would both, both, both, both. You would want them to, to perform at that. You understand why they were not where they were when the whole thing began. But now that they're there, you'll want to say, Chalo, you know, you want to, you'll want them to sort of step up to this plate, this, this field that has been created in a way and spend money and do all the rest of it. Because without, it's almost like literally now, everyone will say, all the kind of fans will be in it. It'll be the, it'll be the old-fashioned fans. It'll be the new fans. Everybody will want to say, Chalo, let's see what it's like. And even, even the ones who know nothing about football, they say, Oh, East Bengal, Mohan Magan. Exactly, exactly. That let's find. So, you know, like one of the things, everyone who goes to Calcutta, you say, I want to go and see that match. I want to go and see a Mohan Magan, East Bengal match. Whatever it is, it becomes like a thing that you have to do. What does it say? Oh, box ticking. Bucket list. Bucket list. Bucket, bucket. Bucket. So, you see, this is what I find is like, okay, now I'm completely invested and interested in it. You know, I want to see, I want to see exactly what's going to happen. Outside of, say, in previous season, I'll say, okay, how's, how's Bengaluru, how's BFC doing? Let me see what's happening there. I'll follow the Northeast United story for a little bit, but this is like switched on. Pura, you know. So, maybe this is giving them the sort of injection that they, that is going to help them in the next, say, five years to keep pushing on, given that the clubs keep up to that level of professional performance, professional management and so on. I don't know. I think ISL, the ones who are playing, they're not inside, they're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, they're not doing that to everyone. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, they're here, our two, Anmol Ratan. Sir, what is the vibe around the interview? We've spoken at length for both these teams coming into the league. They've come in through different, how do I say, different routes. One has had to give up its share. One has not given up a share, but has brought in someone. And what's going on right now? Because it's already the chat has started that East Bengal, Mohanbaugan, never care for run-up trophies. That's what I thought. And it's a, if you look at it overall, it's a great loss for ISL, this season. It's really unfortunate that such a pandemic came and so spectators won't be able to come. Otherwise, may I say, the entry of these two teams, the ATK, Mohanbaugan and SC, Stringall, the entry of these two teams would have, would have not only brought crowd in Calcutta, but simultaneously would have brought crowd all over the country. Now, look, when ATK, ATK was alone, the ATK versus Goa match in the first or second season, which created so much trouble. It immediately you are there at the ground. It immediately turned into a game, the season after season, ATK versus Goa matches brought crowd to the ground. Isn't it? Good crowd to the crowd. So, if this season there wouldn't have been all these problems of this corona and coronavirus and all these things. I think it would have been a very successful season for ISL. And Mohanbaugan East Bengal is, what you are asking me is, there is no, no, nothing, nothing, no change in attitude. Whether it is ISL or it is Jai Deep Basu Memorial Tournament or whatever, when they, if they are meeting, they are meeting to win the match. That's all, finish. There is nothing called draw, nothing called, come on, leave it. Mohanbaugan's team knows, sir, which is the ATK team. And for whatever good or bad you kept it, okay, the team is formed. How is the East Bengal team? What is going on? Will they win or something? No Dika, no East Bengal. No, like, like what, what Vaibhup said a few minutes back when I was saying that let's look at a match. East Bengal is, that is the biggest problem I am trying to set. Say, there is no match in the season yet. First, I used to play in the local league. I used to play with a friendly hand-to-hand game. This time there is nothing. So how do you know what kind of team? We know that's a big name has come as a coach. He has brought in this player, that player, for Lister, he has played this, for Boston, he has played this. All this we know from YouTube and from Google search. But what will we play here? What do we know? You, you, you are talking about the ATK Mohanbaugan because last year you have seen both ATK and both Mohanbaugan. When they were, and you know, they were champions and you know how they ruled them in players, how they played and whatever. But we don't know anything here. We, even the coaching staff also we've seen. We knew, we knew. So here we are. A friend of the show is there. A friend of the show is there, Mr Singh. No, that's East Bengal. But for him it's a different role. After a while he's back in the ISL. He's working with an all English staff that has not, does not have any or not all of them. Some of them do have some experience in India but most of them do not. So we are, we are, we are very excited that East Bengal, SC East Bengal is the only team which has brought, brought a free kick coach. Which was never seen in Indian football before. Till the first free kick is taken. How do you know what is the result? No, but can give you a sense of how they'll approach the game. That they're going to play on set piece or they know that the game is going to be like this. Because whatever you said, I'm not talking about you. So in a month you won't be a team. When you brought players from all over the world, it's not like you brought them from the same hub. So they understand a little bit. I used to play for them as a kid. I used to tell them, here it's good to have you. It's good to have you. What's your name, brother? What's your name, brother? Sir, I'm a kit man. Oh, I mean you're a player. This is also happening. But yeah, I agree. Till the first free kick is taken, we do not know the impact of the free kick coach. That is the way. And Ravi Fowler, all we know, again from reading, that he is a defensive minded coach. That is the allegation again. Because he is a commentator also. Sorry, Jaydev, was it your commentator also? He came with Sony. He came for Sony. Yeah, for Sony. For Sony game. Because he's not interested in being commentator only. Sharda, I think it's a bucket list for former players. Sunil Gawaskar is also a commentator. Doesn't matter. No, no, no. But the commentary kept up, Robbie Fowler, it's like he was not interested in doing the commentary. He'd be sitting like this in the video. You mean to say, he will do the coaching also this manner? I have a really bad joke. I have a really bad joke. I have a really bad joke. Can I crack it? Okay, go for it. Can I please crack it? If a team that relies on set pieces has a coach called Fowler, then what will happen? That is true. So, you won't get such bad jokes anywhere on the internet. So, please like. No, we will make it easy for you. This is where the internet connection is located. If anyone has it, then crack it. Crack it. Crack it. My internet connection is using ISL. It's mute. Never cutting it. East Bengal is the mystery team of this league. Yeah. Because we don't even know what is East Bengal. But how do you approach it? There is no relegation. There is nothing. There is no solution. No, there is no solution. But you are only playing in a sense for your fans. If I may say first, that fans shouldn't feel bad. They should not revolt. What are you playing a team? That is your first priority. That you have to keep them happy. Now, can you keep them happy only with the trophy? Yeah. Or can you keep them happy that you are playing good football? But you are not around the trophy. No, that is not accepted. East Bengal, the runners-up last year also happened. The fans said they were a failure. Well, the fans didn't like it. What happens to the runners-up? Like the last season. But the last season... They are not football. No, no, you are wrong. You get to see a lot in this league. That's good. Welcome, welcome. But Arjun, I think one good thing is that the intensity of SC, Swingol and ATK Mohan Bagan might lift the... I think it will lift the intensity of all of them in the 90s. If these people are playing intensely, others will also play intensely. So, I think it will lift the standard of the league in total. In total. What you were saying about East Bengal finishing runners-up last season and it being regarded as a failure. Not last season. Yeah, before last time. Yeah, before that. I mean, well, last season, to pay to Mohan Bagan, every other team... Second to eighth place was segregated by two points. Two points. Yeah, but first and second place was separated by 14 points. That's what I'm point being. Yeah, so it's a comparison to Mohan Bagan always, right? I think. Yeah, it's... What not only? What... I mean, if Bagan are winning the league by a record margin in record time, playing the kind of football that their fans... All actually, not just their fans, but Neutrals are appreciating across the board. And on the other hand, you have an East Bengal team that is failing to deliver on any of these counts. And then you... Whether you finish second or you finish eighth, it's entirely irrelevant. So, I would say I'm with the East Bengal fans on that front, for sure. Yeah, that's fine. That's the way the team has played over 100 years and they will play. What is that? They have not... They have been playing like this for the last 100 years. We have to win. Not out of 100 years, they may have lost 60 years, they must have lost. But it doesn't matter. They want to win. We have been winning for 40 years. Mr. Khan is losing. Intent. This was the best tournament of the two months. I've heard so much about this word. Intent, process and match-up. This is in their dictionary. Expressing self also. Expressing self? I wanted to go express myself and... Yeah. Even though I play, I got out at the wrong time. Bloody. Yeah. We used to have coaching on our time. We used to have coaching on the way down. Playing with a man. Playing with a man. Well, that is the end of coaching. Playing with a man. Yeah. And I was just watching this docu series. It's very popular now. It's become like a thang, right? Like the docu series for every football club. I was watching one on Barcelona. And in that, there's Ernesto Valverde. It's very old, obviously, this series. Because after that, maybe 15 coaches have come to Barcelona. But here, Ernesto Valverde... He also coached. Yeah, of course he did. For a brief bit. He also played for them. Then he... Then... Adatura... Que pasa? Que pasa? So, in that, Ernesto Valverde said that... When he has an episode of Espanol against match, it's a very build-up, it looks very passionate. He's like, if Dabis didn't exist, we would have to invent them. And I had only one thing in my mind. I was like... Aysen has also tried that. And now they've got an original job. Free. Free. Well, I wouldn't say free. It was someone-something. I'll tell you something. You all are talking about the game. According to me... And this is the first thing I've talked about. I'm not saying anything new here. According to me, and we've seen a little bit of it while working, that these teams have not so much ATA Mohan Bagan, but more so Espanol, and also Mohan Bagan. Now you have two teams who have a following, which you have not played any part in getting. And it's a democratic following. And if that following is not happy with what you're doing, whether it be on the field, whether it be off the field, that following has a voice big enough to tell you correct your course or we will take action in whatever which way it might be. Case in point being that promo that was put out. Pushing machine. Right? By Star Sports. What was the promo? I haven't even seen the bloody promo. What was the promo? Did you get to see it? Did anyone see it? Yes, I saw it. I have it, I will send it to you. Sharda wants to take it from you. What is the point in this? The point in the promo, it was like a walking disaster is going to happen promo. So if you're looking at it from our two ISL teams competing with each other, you say it's okay and all, it's not, you know, it's sort of funny, ha ha, sort of banter-y type of thing that you have. This was you're taking 100 years of fandom and you're trying to tell them that, boss, you don't know, you know, you're coming into this whole thing. We are going to melt your colors into the same washing machine. Everything about it was wrong. I mean, I understand the intense with which they were doing it and whoever's idea it was, was never a football fan from the starting. Uncle, you tell me what to do. Make such an ad. Maybe even I'll say, boss, please don't mess with those uniforms. Don't touch. They just did that thing. Oh, this is Bengal and whatever and sort of. And it doesn't matter for the football fans or the real proper old club, old style football fans. The person doesn't matter, the club only matters. That's it. And in this case, your uniform color should not touch, should not touch. And then to add on to that, there was also the late point that they put these three stars on top of ATK, Mohan Bagan's logo. But, and this is a very valid point also. Do you add the, how, how you come to three by winning? 86 is one thrice. You're only talking about the three ISL. Yeah, yeah, of course. If you start talking about the ILEAG and the CFL, then the whole T-shirt will be a star. 19-11, you have to start. You have to start at that time. I mean, I said, as a non-football fan, I am saying with the 19-11, have you forgotten? No, that's right. Absolutely. This was actually something that we were all talking about off, when we were planning this episode. Remember how structured planning we did. At that time, we also talked about this, that they're just bringing these two clubs in at value in terms of broadcasting value, at rivalry value, brings fans in. But it also creates this like, additional level of responsibility for the ISL. You know, which is... Don't mess with us. Yes. See, now we're here. That means, now that Bahubali is here, now, okay? Yes, actually, man. Because you know why? The thing is, Darni's talk... Yeah, your first fans, good ISL, disciplined fans who do chanting and all that, we are another level. Don't mess with us. No, no. And they are because they are also... Because while there are great fan clubs, there are... All these clubs have support. But the thing about the Bagan and the East Bengal fans is that they do not even care about abusing their own club, their own officials, they have no bones about that. They are but burners. Yes. In the past, they had buses and all that. I'm excited. And the funniest part is that, that the great company from not even point had to come back and withdraw it. That is the... That is the point I'm trying to make here. First time. First time in six years. I am telling you one franchise, one franchise, the official was telling me, that sir, if this was from our side, then we would have been politely... Most polite answer would have been, okay, we will see it next year. Like the AFF media are doing with us. Okay. We will see when Steam Edge will come. Come. Yes, but... That's the thing. You saw it yourself. This is the power of a fan group like this. For so many years, Siddhant has been saying these kind of things on this platform. Again, who has taken him seriously? Honestly, I'm sorry. He is an intellectual sitting in front of books. That's why he doesn't listen to them. Yes, but if he... Wow. So, look here. One day, for 24 hours, he was yelling that he had to take the bad bed and run away. Absolutely, love it. Love it. I also hope that this additional responsibility will land in this thing. And the great future ICC chairman was doing that act. Oh, my God. Please, this is a great picture. You don't... I think that's the best. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Please, I think that's the best. I think that's the best. I don't want to talk so small. You are the Prime Minister of India, Chief Minister of West Bengal. What is the ICC President's responsibility? This is what I don't understand. Chief Minister of West Bengal is bigger than ICC President. Okay? Please, remember this. No, no, no. What are you talking about? Why do you look like that? You know, guys, just Sharda Sharda put a very good plug-in and I don't know why. All of them broadcast here and there are a lot of nice people in journalism. And they do other channels too. But there is a... You know, it's what the league has inherited with these fans. There is a sense of responsibility. Also, what they are saying openly is that I am accepting your mistakes. I am telling you that you are making mistakes. This is what happens in our shows too. We speak openly. We speak in our minds. Instead of that, what do you think? We don't have an effect. We have been working on an interview for Mr. Steemath for the last 10 years. We are sitting with AIFF. We are not getting an interview. Our brother also talked to the top boss of AIFF. He said, you are talking to him from the start. We are going to interview you. After that, nothing has happened. But this is the beauty of the show. So, if you like the show, make sure you like the show. Make sure you subscribe to our channel on YouTube and please spread it to as many people as you can because I am pretty sure there are more than 332 subscribers of Indian football. Right? So, send it ahead. Wherever you want to send it, at least send it to 1,000 or keep it small. Send it to 500. After 500, it will reach 1,000. It will reach 1,500. So, please spread it as much as you can. Do it. I am going to increase the car. We talked about Calcutta here because in the middle, sir, your brilliant edit that we had met, you were given a responsibility that a political angle has also come this time in the ISL's build-up with regards to local vendors. What was the story of the local vendors? What is the cost and why is it grouse with local vendors in Goa with the ISL? I let the web of it came to me. I was looking for the dust capital behind you. Please take it out. I think that is a trying to put political pressure on the local people. But finally, it will be settled down. I think. But what is the issue, sir? Issue, what is the issue? I think they brought vendors from outside that was the issue. They wanted people who were driving your cars and all. All these vendors. Everything. The whole host of whatever supporting functions are required, whether it's getting, whether it's in-stadium stuff or taxi services or when I say taxi, I mean transportation to and from for training, for the games itself when they begin. All of these things require some outside people to come in and even the testing part, right? The whatever, FATLAB or whatever it is that is conducting the testing process. Essentially, the politicians, the local politicians who are in, I think, opposition. Yes, I'm saying that you're having this big event in Goa at a time when the kind of economy of Goa, which is very much dependent on tourism, on visitors coming in, things happening in that state, has taken a massive hit, right? So if you're having this big event and all these hundreds of people are coming and staying in these hotels and doing stuff, then the local people should receive some of the monetary benefits of that happening in their state. But then not in a time when you're trying to create a bubble and all of that. I can understand you would find wanting to get people from outside because you can control them. So you tell them, look, we're taking you with us for a period of four months. Bag and baggage, you're sitting with us in the accommodation where we're giving it to you. So you're controlling the bubble. Now, you suddenly opened up to people outside. And they say, I'm going for a holiday. I'm going for a long time. And then I'm coming back. So you can't do that. Yeah, one thing is across, I think, the political spectrum almost. I mean, I guess left parties won't talk about it because we're not on the radar. So where's your radar? But the big parties, they have the pandemic and the basic sensibilities of how things should be functioning in terms of public gatherings and all that. This is all forgotten. It's been a long time. I mean, the elections in Bihar, you can watch the stories there. Whatever it is, where the lockdown has been since March, whatever social listening, physical listening, rules, norms, wearing a mask, all that, whatever has happened since March, either religious gatherings or political gatherings have happened. Right? Religious gatherings and political gatherings have happened. They have been connected. That's also fair enough. So politicians, I mean, their job is, I guess, to make these things issues however they can. And I suppose the perspective from which they're coming is that, okay, we might get the virus and that might have an impact on our health. But if you don't have money to eat, you don't have jobs, you don't have food on the table, then virus or arrest is a matter of distance. So I suppose that is one argument. But yeah, so that I'm sure will be dealt with in the usual efficient manner that things are dealt with. Sharda has to make a point. No, no, sorry, sorry. I was just, I just, my computer was doing its own thing. I was listening with great interest. What you were saying is absolutely spot on. Yeah, I think also the other part of it is, and I don't know, I mean, we're not speculating here, but when the league is sort of owned and run by large corporation, which has diverse interests across industries, whether it's hotels or transport or whatever the case might be, there's a proclivity or like this thing to give everything to people who are within your own little scene. So that's great segue. Yeah. To city football group. Sharda. He was, he was, yes, well done. Come on. I am keeping my eyes and ears open. Team is very good. They are not sleeping and doing this for you. Team is very good. Sir, team is very good. I want to ask you a question. Which one? Which one do you want to ask? I am saying that we are here in Mumbai and East Bengal, saying that inheritance is over here this time. What will they bring to the league? In a sense, I think we will have to talk about the city football group that will start working from this season. I liked one thing very much. Because, and I, look, I will speak in public. So two days ago, I met friends of the media, our friends who are from football. So I called them and I said, look, I recently, in the times of India, that the CEO or whoever is here in India, they gave an interview. It felt like a press release. I didn't get anything from him because you didn't divulge anything to him. I just said that we wish to aim, we wish to help, we wish to do this. So you give me half an hour and tell me clearly, so that I can tell you a little bit about my show. I said, yes, yes, but you know what the process is? You will have to write a mail to me and I can get back to you. I was ready with my questions, again, with a lot of questions. But what happened is that I didn't have an email ID. Although I called him four times, I sent him a question mark, a 4-4 question mark WhatsApp with an exclamation mark. Nothing. So this is what happened. I studied a little bit in the morning. Sir, city football group is worth 5 billion dollars. Latest valuation of city football group is worth 5 billion dollars. Some and just see how diverse their interests are. There is a huge technology investment firm which is based in the US. It's called Silver Lake. They bought a 10% stake in the company last year. More than that, they were also tying up with more other technology giants because one of their people who is their what do you call investors is Chinese, where is it, where is it? E-commerce, Alibaba, Alibaba is there. Then there are some other, other point being sir, this is a lot of stuff here. The simple thing is, they have had China, India and the US in their targets from the very beginning. We want to get into these markets and we want to get into technology driven markets. That way China and India are right up top. Huge markets, huge numbers. So to say that they are just coming in for the football would be like a very small way of looking at it. They are looking at it in a much larger way because they have ambitions of having their own OTT platforms. They want to Abhi aapka dekhon naw jo unke teams hain, I think nine teams in total. Nine teams in total kaya jo fair badal kar satte hain. Now how much of it is, how do I call it? How much of it is done, keeping in mind the rules of the games, wo dosri baat hai. But fair badal karna asaan ho jaega. So much so they want to start a global brand. Now to get a global brand like that into India. I think that is the biggest positive for this league. Wo gaya toh rahin ki we wish to help Indian football. What he kept, that is the press release way of seeing it. Poor unki nazre kain yon rahin. An us kain yon ki nazron ho par paanchine kele unne Mumbai par apni jaga vanaye. That is the main thing. And what I really liked about the team right now is that if you see the way, the feelers that are coming out of the camp and the kind of team they've made. Generally kya hum dekhtein ki cha badhi team aati hai, to hum sushtein ki chee pehle season mein yeh log itne, itne player laar hain. Aur title jeetne ka iddawa lagaar hain. Wahan se koi feelers nahi aar hain, sir, aise. We want to play good football. You brought about a coach when you had on your portfolio some of the biggest coaches in the world. Agents in the world. You still stuck with a man who's been the most successful in the league you're going to operate in over the last two, three years. Simple. So you said come, which means for me at least my reading from the outside is that you're taking your time. You're not getting into a rushed manner and you're not going to be one of those tie ups jo aab dekhto na ki kabi Fiorentina ka sa tie up ho gaya. Kabi AS Roma ka tie up ho gaya. Jo dosaar baat kuch padhai nahi kya hoa us tie up ka. Yeh baise a tie up bilkul bhi nahi hai. They've taken 65% stake, of course. 35% stake is still with Radheer Ranbir Kapoor and Mr. Bimal Paik. So I think for me this is the biggest positive for the league. Chai jo bhi ho. The amount of not just the money, I think money on paper aapko bola jaata ki 16.5 CR is your salary cap. Inki jo shamta hai, they can go to 160.5 CR. Par yeh bahan jaani rahe. Ab kithna under the table hai kya ho rahe? Who is taking to the salary cap? There's no point saying it because there's no proof to it. Even though murmurs around it are pretty rife for quite a few years. But if you just see their team, other than the fact that they've got Jahu, they've got Boomu, they've got Sergio Lovera, they've got Mandar, Farooq Chaudhary ko lea hai. Sati saath wo aap jinn players ko wo jaanta hai. Aur uski ala, jo aap ke foreigners aaye hai, they're not your flashy, bahar ka itna bada foreigner. Ho laaye hai, matlab ussi level ke foreigners jo poore league mein ghiil rahe, may be a level or two better than the foreigners you're seeing in the league so far. Ogbeche has come back into the team. So I think this is a group which is here for the long haul. Mere azaap se they're not bothered ki this season jeete nah jeete. I think chote-chote steps rakhenge yeh lo football jaanta hai. To yeh kainge hameji top four mein aana hai, playoff mochna hai. Playoff and mochna hoa dekhi jaye hi kya hoga? So yeah, but all the best kyunki aap aasah cooperation aap ke team ko chila rahe hai. Aap unse news nikal wana to aur bhi. Badee baat ho jaye hi. Aap wo din gaye. Yeha bhai, kya hoa? Acha acha. Oh, acha acha aasah hoa. Hoa saap gaya aap, with these people coming into it. So yeah, I guess that's the scene. But I think the biggest worry is this, that you've got a team that's coming in and which has coffers that are this big in a league where every team is operating on this much or maybe this much or maybe a champion team which is spending on this much. How do you stop them from suddenly saying acha hame itna dalteze, kya ho gaya? Money power will take over this league. It's kind of cute that we also have these first world football problems now. I think both teams are kind of cute. If you, I think two or three teams have already put in a request. I think that cap should be removed. Should be increased, yeah. It should not, should be removed. Removed, no, 16.5 cap should be removed. Nain kar sitte, sir. Agar aap re cap khata diya with just one city football group and the rest operating like normal ISL teams without those massive investors to fit to khatam hoge na kaani maa pee. So, ono ne khatam kar diya na kha jaan hai. Ono ne poori league ko jaan 5-5 foreigner aap kilari ho le aayenge berber ke baar se. Cap deke bhi kya fayda. Cap deke bhi fayda toh. Ni ho raha. Everybody knows fayda nahi ho raha hai. Lekin theek hai. Chalo dekne hai. Aap Europe me kuch nahi kar paya onko toh hiya kya kya kar kaya. Haan hai na. We couldn't do much to them in Europe. They got away with everything. India me toh ho gaya. Lekin team na, team toh bohd badia banaya. Champion banne ki team banaya. No doubt about it. After 80 ke they are the best team. No doubt about it. Par aap ye bhi dekhuna. Inka main kpadra tha. AFL mein, inke baas Melbourne city hai. AFL ya jobi unka league hai. Usko ka team hai. Sorry, I don't know the name. AFL, AFL, AFL. A league jo hai. Waha aap ek kuch system hai to go from club to club ka kuch hai. Kuch hai point. Ono ne kya kya. Manchester city ne. Ek player ko sign kya from Melbourne city. Aur jaisi sign kya usko loan krdiya to another AD club. This is pretty regular. This is actually like has attracted a lot of criticism there also. Because this is like inter franchise transfers. So one because because of FPP sorry, FFP. Manchester city have also been using this to bypass their own accounts, their own books. They are balancing using this. To ye sab to hai. But that is that is one place where once somebody can have more own more than one team. And there is no conflict of interest. It is being legalized. Yeah, exactly. But not in India, not in India. But a larger topic is in fact that that if you let these super clubs and these super investments or these super state-owned teams because I think you can call it a state-owned group or whatever. If you let them take over and start planting their seed all over the world. Guma fir aakya agar aise paan chhe duniya mein aag hai. Then ye hosatna ki aapki ek Melbourne city is taking on a Barcelona Adelaide United in the A-League. So aapki Mumbai city aagye ye haan pe basu. Guma fir aakya aapki wo paan chhe hi bade identities hai. Who will take over the world as opposed to the smaller single owned teams that are coming in and doing their things. Because money power at the end they will take over and trump everything else. Whenever this happens like I always like whenever this sort of stuff happens like you have to have a little bit of hope. Like I feel like the mood of the show is going down a bit. So I'm just going to tell you guys that when I was growing up in the 90s, McDonald's hai the India. Om lo baal excited hote. You know like McDonald's. Filio fish. Slow. Filio fish. Filio fish. And Maharaja Mac and all. How many of us go to McDonald's anymore? So quality down hai, sir. The quality down nahi hai. Quality is the same. I don't know. It's just that this is one topic I should not speak about. Quality down nahi. The quality has remained the same. Is this that what has happened is because of this like global franchising it's become what was actually an exclusive thing has become a common denominator food now. Now everyone would prefer to order from right now. You can insert. I will insert a name. You feel free to sponsor us right now. Bata ye. Burger group. I don't know if I stick with that analysis. Why? Because yaha pe aap esport pe aap operate kar rahe jaha pe suddenly now in the mix has come a group which is valued at 5 billion dollars. Right. As opposed to teams that are operating on 20 CR 30 CR. Right. To unki valuation to chodi do. Ka hain unki valuation ogi. Wo apne gaha mein bata nahi valuation apne taal reonge. But the point. Haan. Arjun. Lekin ye toh hoi already ho chuka hain. Money has taken over Indian football. Isn't it? Matlab aap jo bol ro jo which city group can do which parhats lesser lesser lesser people have already done it. Isn't it? Simple thing. That's a simple thing. Aap iski. Iski baat karo Sudeva aai hai. I didn't. Chalo. Sudeva aai aai league mein. Unka ambition saab saab hai. Sab ko patai. Ki unne teen saab league mein rai nahi. Aur jab window khulega. Promotion allegations. Then they want to fight for it. Fight for it. Fight for it to go up. Right. Aap ye socho jo team yahaan bhe apne academy ke base bhe chal rahi. Accounts banari ho. Thoda boh sponsorship leh diye. Suddenly wo us pool mein aagain. Jahaan bhe 5 billion dollar group ke khala aap ladai karne ke liye tiaar hain. Kahin na kahin missmatch ho gana boh palisee. To ho chuka hain. But the fun for us journalists hain kahaani likhne ka ye opportunity milega. Jabko aswal FC jisi choti team aayi ghi inlong ko haraayi ghi. Do chaar baat. To hame bhi khushi milegi. An idea. But what Arjun is saying is to to ho chuka hain. Aapka jo paaj baal Ileague champion team hain. Wo to bandh ho gaya hain. That team was 5 times in the Ileague champions. Wo bandh ho chuka hain. Aur jo do aapke 100 saal se jo jeet rahe hain. Unki naam pataap. Baapke naam maa ke naam sab change kar ke aapko dal na parla hain. You have changed their parents also. If I can just jump in what could also happen I mean I understand what you are saying Arjun. And even I sort of tend to get very gloomy about these things. That when this giant amount of money that comes in and it becomes a cooperation that is just moving funds and people around the way it wishes. For smaller entities what you can then try to do is try and be more ground level sort of connected to ground level entity and become this sort of factory that turns out that keeps itself alive by having a football factory that you have decent players coming out of it. At least players who can make a living. At least a large number of players who are able to go. So you make yourself like the factory team in that sense. That you are the guys that are producing this young talent and it's coming through you because you've got good systems around. But yeh the theory hain. How far it actually happens when you have say whoever a small club against a giant like this you never know. You would want all this to improve the standard of Indian football. You don't want all this to only improve the bottom line of city group. That is not the that we don't care about. You know. I think to from a city's perspective the football whether they come first or whether they come fourth I don't think it will make any difference to their ambitions. Their ambitions are way beyond that. Their ambitions are on the numbers that India presents. Numbers. As soon as you see India's numbers your eyes get bigger if you come from Europe. A lot of companies came before. A lot of companies came in the 90s thinking that India has 200 million dollars 200 million people middle class. It's not 200 million it's a smaller number. Although 200 million may you did so much overreaching of things that a lot of you people fell behind. Now maybe you're coming closer to say 75 not at this economic climate. So God knows what numbers they are reading. You know. God knows what numbers they are reading or they are looking for. But yeah I understand what you are saying. It's an economic sort of opportunity to pick up. Rather than sporting sort of a thing. I think I agree with Sharda. Like I think if say the city football group does in real life what Siddharth does on football manager and takes like 10 Indian boys and puts them in various like you know like if they do that then I don't think we will have any reason to complain. So if am I wrong. Right. If I actually because of all this Herapheri in football manager at least the 123 team is doing really well. Senior team the senior team just went to the quarter finals of the Asian Cup guys. All right. Where they lost to the UAE but it's happening slowly. So But you you you put it in Arsenal's academy that's why you are losing now. Yes. Yes. Yes. Look. Look like Baibab was telling us that like Bangladesh, Nepal are playing an international match and we are playing ISL means and league are playing. How many all Asian teams are now started playing. Yeah they were playing friendlies. Friendlies. We are not playing. No problem. That's how it is. Okay sir. They are playing but at least that's how it is. Yeah. The league is starting. So that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So on this whole billionaire conversation I mean just wait. Come. You were waiting. I Take out 10 rupees note. Sit. This is 10 rupees. I mean as far as you were talking that billionaires should be abolished altogether I would never say that sir. I am all for the money. No of course. I am not saying that. I am just saying that all for the money is fair. All for the money but as long as the money is equitably distributed brother. Not that some guys No no. I am just saying it's the start of someone coming into your league. That's like America. This is bigger coffer as opposed to everyone else in your league with this bigger coffer. Right. And this coffer is only going to grow. Grow even more. So from a league's perspective how do you protect the other teams? No. So yeah that was that was what I was coming to that this league is now a league of billionaires. So when you're saying that in fact there are people with much smaller pie who are in the mix that's not necessarily the case except for maybe northeast united and like when if and when they open promotion delegation and a team like Sudeva or ISOFCE or I don't know Gokulam make it through then it's a different story but if you look at the list of owners of ISL clubs there is a pretty much a billionaire bad boys club right so and and it's going to continue in that direction whether it's so what this I think will be interesting to see is if the city football groups involvement in Indian football can give our other billionaire friends and a sense that maybe football can also be a part of their larger understanding of their business environment and however they operate that it should not be something that they are doing just because someone's phone is here that there is no one to run the team so please come and run our team but apparently since two years we have been doing R and D before entering India I'm saying other people who are coming who are billionaires whose net worth is more than five billion if they start understanding thanks to if they see that if city football group sees some football related potential in India and in this market then perhaps these other clubs can also try and borrow some ideas from them and develop their own kind of wider ecosystem whether that involves like Mumbai now they need a stadium to begin with like who why would you go all the way to Navi Mumbai to watch a DIY particle to watch a football game it's like four hours away from the city and then what is the connect that you're establishing with the local football fans the local football community you will try figuring out how you can fix Coopridge but Coopridge's ownership then go to the I don't know what is it called something like that like it happens in the US since we are following that model that the city the group or the investor then comes in and develops the city's stadium that can be MLS in exchange for which of course the rights to that stadium then go to that private entity but you know what happens is that all these grounds they are made literally like outside the city and everyone's got cars and everyone so the Coopridge example is a good one similarly like the one in Bangalore is the football stadium in the center of the city for years we are fighting about it for years nothing has happened to it it is a beautiful location it's a perfect place it's just stuck because it's a government owned stadium and everything follows from that the government doesn't want to seed power maybe they want to build apartment buildings there you don't know there is also this that there has to be a way for these corporations to then find a middle ground to create this subculture of the football but whether they want to do that or they only want to make money or the other things no Sharda so I think yeah so where I think that's where community and club and fan engagement becomes critical because if you have a situation where Bangalore FC's billionaire owners want to take over the publicly owned stadium against that is very clear that the sports authority will say that you know we have hundreds of athletes who come and train there for free they are our state level elite athletes or whatever they are so we cannot therefore just for your 10 games in the year just hand over the whole stadium view that's one argument that they might make but if there is enough of or if these clubs are able to mobilize enough fans communities that are genuinely interested in the long-term growth and well-being of this football club then I think they can apply that pressure on sports authorities political authorities, government whatever the case might be and have a more sustainable model where all those other local athletes are also factored in giving us space to operate etc I think it's a doable thing we will have to be with that approach that you mentioned not just to make money and keep everything for our private use but share and collaborate to the community it's interesting if you bring in the Calcutta example here sorry for wandering off on to some other tangent only Arjun sorry but Mohan Baghan and East Bengal do they have their own independent ground other than that the one in the middle despite all this support despite this massive very rich fan culture they have not shown their enterprise to build their own modern stadium certainly I am not saying make a stadium like what is that light in England just make a small stadium in the city or as close before the city spread out or whatever Sharda at one point of time they had so much power in the 60's and 70's they could have asked the government to demolish the rightest building and make a stadium that would have been accepted but nobody had the enterprise nobody had the foresight they thought that the ground is from the army but of course for the last 100 years they will give it for another 100 years also but there will be so much risk there are already so much restrictions so nobody had the enterprise of the foresight that is the biggest problem and if you point all these things throughout they are very upset the BFC ground that you are saying Siddhan that is the Kanthirva stadium which has become BFC's ground in that sense there is another football stadium yeah football football you know it is the first season where on Maghraat road where the stand is going to fall it is going to catch fire it is a great it is a beautiful small stadium I have done so many matches there besides the people who were there it took them 10 years I don't know and so you have to want even the city population to want this thing for them I mean I am sure now the fans in Calcutta have died to have a Mohan Bagan and East Bengal their own stadium each home ground kind of a thing they will want it but you are stuck with administrators number one of your clubs as well as the government that is there that happens and then you seem to think that city group it will just be a happy little love marriage for a time being with government but it will have to be I think the marriage will have to be with the government if you want to have a long term stay in this country and have an impact then you have to have a happy marriage with the government which is why I wanted to say it is not all doom and gloom because if you read them they said these three biggest markets America, China, India we are not expecting to get into America we are not expecting to get into America pretty early with New York City FC that is and they said what we also did was senior team but our main focus was on developing 7 to 8 year olds those 7 to 8 year olds now are in the 14 to 15 year old bracket and he said we put them through proper coaching through technologically all of that you were using technology everything in their growth and in their development and he says now you see those players a lot of those players are worthy of going to Europe at the age of 18-19 so if you can even do half of that to Indian players because 7 to 8 bracket there won't be any foreign photo there you will see this Naurangar, Wangarangar, Wangarekar and they will go there to play if one of them sent a boy to Europe in 5 years there is nothing big to be honest if one of them sent a boy then the car would have gone that would be alright and I suppose that then comes around and benefits the national team and the overall I suppose standard of football in the country as well because that's what we are trying and feeling for many years to get to where kids are getting that kind of coaching and competition and all of that the improvement of the national team is dependent on the national tradition they have to plan how to do it I disagree with this I genuinely believe that the development or the growth of the national team whether it's men, women underage whatever it is is hugely hugely or in fact I would say even entirely dependent on the league system in that country see it depends on the federation can give certain guidelines and create maybe a framework of operations and be like an arbitrator in the case of disputes and conflicts and other such things but I don't think that the federation especially in a country like ours can be responsible for we'll ever have the resources to be responsible for the actual I mean what you are talking about Siddhant what you are talking about is about the production of players that is not close to the clubs that's all but how the national team will shape that is a completely responsibility of the national federation otherwise what are you doing what are you doing social media social media someone has to handle Siddhant is following them Siddhant is following them let's just take a moment of silence because Siddhant is following them hey you know I am following them you have to planning you have to shock the head first and guide the clubs as well you 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asking about ATK there is something there Raman Chandail is saying can you talk about Red Bull does anyone know Red Bull and FC Goa partnership first of all they are not called Red Bull they are not Red Bull they are like SC Espingol no so RB Leipzig what is the deal what has the deal Leipzig has come along with City No 1 paid attention to it no but what is this they haven't taken stake in the team it's a strategic partnership it's a strategic partnership it's a strategic partnership the season hasn't even begun let's at least try and make friends no no Sharda I am the only place where you will hear truth on this group no I want friends I don't want truth I want friends how are we going to get into the second week of ISL how are we going to get into the second week of ISL how are we going to get into the second week of ISL no but you tell me and I am basing it doesn't mean to say in the past do you remember any strategic that is still continuing as they say here nothing I don't know what they mean I don't get it what is the point you will take 10 children and go to Barcelona for 2 months I think Dortmund and Hyderabad they are sharing a strategic partnership where they have very similar very nice looking kids exactly my point so what is the point of these strategic types have been coming in our country for a long time apart from that what benefits you will get if any of you know what is it even Bengaluru FC rangers have a strategic type yeah I think Bengaluru FC rangers also have a strategic type so Bengaluru FC on its own it doesn't need anybody else as far as I know they have done okay yeah fair enough I just want to show you guys this is how you make friends if I was to do a strategic type it would be to what will help me that either I come from there and coaches don't come that there are 2-3 months they are 3-4 years old coaches I think they have said this all of them say this this release they all say this it's a real partnership with the focus on youth development and coach training what kind of players do you make in 3 years coach training coach training and then nationwide soccer camps to make football more accessible look at this look at this stop it your strategic partnership what was the benefit of that those are the same things I don't know the phone came the phone came that Arjun he is staying with the european club I can't tell you will you host it if you didn't get to host it then you will talk he came you have your own motives basically I am sure you price yourself out of the market exactly which indicates the kind of partnership it is because honestly if you are announcing a partnership and you don't have a few bucks to splash on the MC for the event then it kind of indicates the sort of partnership you are getting into but why speculate Goa I mean I think Leipzig have over the last couple of years at least set up some kind of vibe right for playing attacking football getting young people through the ranks for them it's a big season this one how do they carry forward that so I think for the fans of FC Goa having such a partnership maybe adds to the legitimacy of their own entity and if at some later stage in life this partnership can result in maybe young players going to Germany whether for training or we have talked about how many strategic partnerships that our boys will go I remember we talked about we camped we looked for boys we took them to Europe for 3 weeks they fought no it's true that's my point 2 hours of time will touch and a few our sir mutated he said let's talk to him let's start with you I'm going to end in this season do you want to see what you haven't seen in the last 6 seasons mayat the way the season has set up but the teams that have come in do you want to see this season which has always been in any tournament which has always been the prime year to watch more intense matches more competitive matches that we would like to watch and we believe that it will become with the inclusion of 2 very famous teams from Calcutta I think that it will not only bring intensity in their game it will bring intensity into the game of everybody every other team and it will add to the competition as I said it is very unfortunate because of pandemic it has to be a one venue tournament so much no crowd can come all this is a negative for which nobody is responsible actually it's very unfortunate but I think I would look forward to is to watch more intensified matches more competitive matches more fight in the matches Sharda for you what are you looking forward to it just sound predictable I am repeating what Jayadid just said just to see I want to see what the 2 Calcutta clubs will be like in this I think it will be under the radar I want to see how they will do I want to see how they will do I want to see how they will compete and their being there will just make this much more bling a little blood into the ISL so good yeah I mean just happy to get Indian football back on television every year actually on Diwali we used to sit and watch an Indian football ISL game and we didn't this year so it's just happy to see Indian football it's nice the Calcutta clubs are here but yeah I mean there is a lot of other stuff also let's not make this only about those two I think give the other guys credit also and I hope that because of these COVID restrictions we don't get some drama out of it I just would like to avoid that entirely okay Siddhant also for you are you going to watch even a single game that's what I was going to say like to be honest I'm excited to be in this league it's been a long time I think after 2013-14 was that the first season 14-14 yeah it was a cup competition I'm really looking forward to checking out this tournament and following it more regularly and also doing stuff around it it's unfortunate like Jehdi was listing out the negatives I think chief among the negatives is that the organizers have not found room for journalists for the press to make their way into the bubble there's no reason for members of the press to be directly in contact with players but at least if we don't go to the local journalist you know and if we don't at least the big papers in the country the journalists can go and watch matches because it's only one thing to watch on TV and watch on TV it's different from that perspective it's extremely unfortunate so we are like basically they are reminding us that we are like any other normal so I suppose it's an ideal situation for organizers to do things without having the press involved at all in any way you know but that apart I think I'm really keen to see a lot of the Indian players in action and some good performances from those guys we are keen to see whether a new full back emerges from somewhere someone to please a new full back means it's a new full back it's a new full back you are joining the league you are joining the league now I am in the league I am in the league absolutely so I'm excited to see why do you say full back then why do you say full back first then I said full back because everyone will say Indian strikers, Indian goalscorer but if you you want to build again from the back then you need to have some but you won't say goalkeeper but keeper is there keeper is there 3-4 keeper I think are already off that standard so if you have that defensive kind of those players emerging plus also like mother I prefer that side of that method of whatever side of football so that's why I was going to say you are always welcome point being that for all of you who tuned in this is the start of season 3 and every sunday 2pm we are continuing with the slot a great comment from our sarcastic fans that India still has press question mark question mark question mark question so season 3 has begun and every sunday at 2pm our entire cast will be there let's not forget ishwa kehmer is very much a part of the show but owing to their club commitments their appearance on the show will fluctuate where of course they have to give due diligence to the club first because money is coming from there they are getting wishes from here they are getting love so we totally understand that having said that please increase our subscriber count this 332 is like a slap looking at this 332 last month we sat on 332 so take it up to 500 before the ISL starts and then during the ISL we will increase the number sir this is on the darby which date is it? 27th so 27th is what day and you know Friday so then we will be doing a full preview to the darby siddhant we will be doing a full chat to the darby because it's not following on a and then the review of the darby can be the sunday show the review of the darby can be the sunday show so these are meetings you are not realizing this is called participatory democracy participatory democracy done so we can do right now for the darby we will do a preview for the darby on a Thursday I am also very keen to do actually I don't know which of you guys will be up for it but maybe we can get a watch along going as well that might be fun atleast for the full stuff we can't do it on a regular basis but basically max is taking gyan bonding gyan bomb what a great watch along watch along but we will do the preview on a Thursday because we will be doing a little chat about the teams jaydeep sir this is the first game of the season with the darby only yeah they are not playing before that oh boom sir this you are talking about next win before that we have yeah yeah I am talking about the week after the week after on that we will so we will do something for the darby we will come next sunday as well and the sunday slot of 2pm will continue so once again thank you so much to all of you who are joining us on the show who stuck along with us so you will get to do it second thing is our channel now we are not a news click we are on our own separate channel so whenever we want to do a video we can say anything we can say anything we are not dependent on the channel so you will be expecting more and more videos, football related videos from us going forward and that's it so jaydeep basu sharda ogra thank you so much for joining us on season 3's first episode of 420 grams long may this association and this banter continue thank you so much for watching