 The success of the Great British Bake Off has led to thousands of copycat shows. The latest is the Chop launched this week by Sky History. Now this is normally seen as a safe, if somewhat dull format. You get people to compete to sort of do a task, be that dancing, cake baking, sewing. But this time around, Sky History sort of found themselves in a controversy that they hadn't bargained for. Let's look at the advert for the show they shared online this week. So that's actually kind of a classic advert for a TV program, like it looks kind of nice and light-hearty. Someone has this juxtaposition of he's got tattoos all over his face but he's quite softly spoken. Lee Mack's there to make the kind of semi-insulting joke, but soft enough that it sort of lands well. He's saying, I wouldn't know you as the wood guy. I'd know you as the tattoo face guy. Anyway, there was something that the producers of that show hadn't bargained for. There's going to be some research is maybe in a little bit of trouble here. I'm not sure. I hope no one gets fired for this. But it turns out that those weren't just any old tattoos. Lumsden's face is covered with symbols for white supremacy. So this first became apparent because if you'll have noticed, he had a huge 88 on his cheek. So you can see there the 88. Now, I actually didn't know this. I learned about this through this controversy, but it turns out that's one of the most common neo-Nazi symbols. So H or H is the eighth letter of the alphabet. 88 equals H H H H equals Heil Hitler. So he there allegedly, well, I mean, he does have a symbol for Heil Hitler on his cheek. He might deny that was the intention, but that's that's what it stands for. Yeah. So if you see under there, what does it sound at the top of his lip? Oh, is that homegrown? Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot of context here, homegrown 88. And by the way, 88 also kind of looks like the SS runes. So that's a double meaning. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've got Adam Rutherford, who's sort of academic. He, academic broadcaster, wrote a great book actually, How to Argue with Racists. He sort of pointed out that it wasn't just that 88. It wasn't just the 88 Heil Hitler. There was actually loads of symbols on this guy's face, which are associated with white supremacy. So let's take a look at that Fred. So he writes, okay, a quick Fred on white supremacy symbols. I spend a lot of time on white supremacy forums online, and they have dozens of really idiotic numerical codes, most of which are substitutions, ciphers that a seven year old would come up with. Darren appears to have two on his face or appears to have these two on his face. So 88 H H equals Heil Hitler, as we've just discussed. He also has 23 16. And the 20, the 23 is for W. So the 23rd letter of the alphabet. And the 16 is for P for power. So it means white power. There's also 18, which is a H which equals Adolf Hitler. And then 14 88. So this seems to be like a really big deal. What the 14 88 is a reference to the so called 14 words coined by white supremacist terrorist, David Lane. Oh, and these have been used by very dangerous white supremacists. So this isn't just an online meme thing. So Dylan Roof, who committed the Charleston church massacre in 2015, he posted a picture of 14 88 written in sand on his website. It actually gets more obviously this is all quite dark, but there's also a ridiculous element to this. So in response to social media users pointing out the symbolism of the tattoos, and especially the 88 ones, it's obviously the biggest most prominent one sky or sky history pulled the show. They said it would remain off until they investigated the meaning of the tattoos. They then followed up with this explanation. So let's get this up. These are sky tweets. They say Darren's tattoos denote significant events in his life and have no political or ideological meaning whatsoever. Amongst the various numerical tattoos on his body, 1988 is the year of his father's death. The production team carried out extensive background checks on all the woodworkers taking part in the show that confirmed Darren has no affiliations or links to racist groups, views or comments. Sky history is intolerant of racism and all forms of hatred and any use of symbols or numbers is entirely incidental and not meant to cause harm or offense. Now, there are two problems with this. So one, 88 wasn't the only neo-Nazi symbol on his face. So it'd be quite coincidental if all of these numbers had white supremacist meanings. The 1988, maybe you could do one by mistake, but to do a few by mistake, that would be, I suppose, unlikely. Two, and this is probably the biggest problem, his dad's not dead. So this was an exclusive in today's Daily Mail. So let's get up the headline. So it's exclusive. I'm not dead yet. Father whose death in 1988 was used by Sky Histories, the chop to explain his son's Nazi-style Hull Hitler, 88 tattoos, reveals he's very much alive. And the story here is really bizarre. I suppose in the style of like mail online. So let's get a quote from the story. So Trevor, who is the dad, told Mail Online, I'm here, aren't I? I'm alive and kicking, so I'm not dead yet. Darren's father has short-term memory loss after a series motorbike crash more than 30 years ago. He lives in a shared house and has support workers popping in to help every day. The father added, I haven't seen Darren for some years. I didn't know he had tattoos over his face or that he was going to be on TV. But if they are saying I'm dead, then I'd like them to know I'm not. Now, the story is so weird. I mean, the dates kind of do add up to like maybe it was, maybe he fought, he died in a motorbike accident, but actually he just lost his memory. But then still, I mean. And now in 2020 he's being accused, possibly accused of being a neo-nazi. And now because of appearing on the chop and being accused of being a neo-nazi, he's been reunited with his dad who also had short-term memory loss. The whole thing is so bizarre. But again, that wouldn't explain all the various other sort of white supremacist symbols on his face. And it does seem like the explanation here is all fallen apart. Also like, let's not be entirely credulous. You've got like a really well-built guy who works with wood, whose face is covered in tattoos, has the number 88. Like there's a 99.9% possibility the guys are neo-nazi. Like you don't need to do the other stuff. Where does this credulity come from anyway? I mean, the bigger, the thing that's funnier actually, because I've always, I've said kind of like, I, you know, if I was a researcher, I would hope I would look up the meaning of these tattoos. But I, before seeing this, didn't know that 88 was Hal Hitler. But for the producers of this show to be told, look, these are a lot of neo-nazi symbols, and they just put out straight away, you know, within a day, like a multimillion-pound company. Oh no, nothing going on here. It's all completely fine. 88 was the year his dad died. Come on! Like what kind of crisis management is that? And also it's a history channel. It is. Yeah, they should show these. Super weird. It's this. And also why are they talking to people like Woodwork in the 21st century when it's the history channel? Anyway, also, by the way, this is really indicative of how widespread this stuff is. So it's a major thing. Cultural sort of adoption of neo-nazi runes and so on is a thing. You know, go on Instagram, hashtag Operation Werewolf. Operation Werewolf was the Nazi strategy, basically, if the West, if the Allies won, they would have carried on, basically, through a terrorist style, low-intensity insurgency. There are normal people walking around who see themselves as part of Operation Werewolf. Be interested, but maybe we should get this guy here on a lie detector. Get him to take his shirt off, because God knows what's under there. If that's what he's willing to show people. That's true. And get him on a lie detector.