 Oh my gosh! It's the Turbo Wallet guy! Yes it is! I got a new wallet! I have a new wallet! Oh my gosh, this is so great! It's too big! Last time I met him, I had a wallet that I had for like 10-15 years. I had to try and get him to get a new wallet for 10 years. Yes! Hey, I love that hoodie by the way. I know, right? We bet! Nice! You want to get in the camera on this one? It's like, I love this hoodie. Nice. So can we just talk about everything? Yeah, the last time we were doing this, we couldn't find something that we disagreed on. Yeah, because we talked about Free Will. We talked about Rally and Free Will. I posted that video, by the way. It did pretty good. Yeah, I saw it. I might have commented on it. I see you post on Reddit sometimes. Yeah, so how about this? Sorry, are we packing up? Oh my gosh, I had no idea you were packing up. Sorry. Thanks for letting me do that. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, okay. I'm going to give you something I'd like for you to see me. Oh! Is that cool? Let's retry that. It was a lot of precious, by the way. Don't forget to introduce yourself. I'm Michael Stewart. I'm Assistant State Director of American A&P. And you actually have a good wallet now. My name is Tyce. That's me too. I made money for your wallet, and now you change for the better. I feel like I'm improving the world slightly. Amazing. My belief is that the root of all morality is selfishness. Okay. Like, there's literally nothing you can do that's moral that's not based on being selfish. But I think selfishness is actually a cornerstone of morality. You need to be selfish. Okay, so how sure of this are you? I'm... ooh, that's a good question. I'd say 99%. I'm as confident about it as you sit in front of me. Sure. So what's... I guess a good question is what convinces you of this? I don't think there's anything as an altruistic action. I think everything that we do for moral is based on our well-being, which benefits us, or benefits me. And when I do something that I want other people to do in the general sense, I'm only acting in accord of what will benefit us as a society, or the society that I'm in, which ultimately benefits me. Every good thing I do ultimately is either benefits me, or helps other people ultimately benefit me. Now, you might say like selfishness. Doesn't that mean like stealing? No, because if I steal, I'll get arrested. Or if I drive too fast, I might get stopped by a cop or sent to jail. That doesn't benefit me. So what benefits me is following the laws, paying my taxes, being a good member to society, because all of that lets other people do the exact same thing, and it's a good code for us to all follow, and it ultimately benefits me to live in a society like that. So when we talk about altruism, does it really exist? When I see altruistic acts, I mean, I see the thing problem is I agree that you can get to altruism solely based on selfish motivation. But I still see that altruism is still altruism, regardless of motivation. I'm fine with that, but if it benefits me, give me an example of something that's altruistic that doesn't benefit me. See, that's the thing. Donald doesn't agree with this. That's the hard thing for me to do. Are we already agreeing with each other on this? I think we might be. Ooh, dang it. We have the same brain. It's not fun. We don't have the same brain. We don't have the same brain. That's impossible. It is impossible. I agree. Dang it. I think we have a lot of the same philosophical tendencies here. Kanye West is one of the greatest minds in pop music of all time. I will disagree with that for a moment. Do you want to do that real quick? Can we do that? All right. Kanye West's greatest mind of pop music of all time. All right. Hey. Hey. Who are my brothers? Am I the only person by myself here? All right. So here's the one. Kanye West is a great music producer. He started off ATL as just, I'm making music for these other guys. He crafts music and levels that people are. He's layering stuff and sampling stuff that people never even listen to. And he's not singing and rapping in it. He's giving it to like Puff Daddy. He's giving it to like Kahn. He's giving it to Usher. And those guys are taking his stuff and turning it to Big Heads. And he says, no, I'm not going to just be a producer. I'm not just going to be a songwriter. I'm actually going to sing this myself. My rap, my tone, my temper might be not as good as everybody else, but it's my music and I'm going to sing it. And he put out some really hit albums for like the first, from like 2003 up to like 2007. Then he says, I'm going to build into the character of Kanye West, where I'm just going to be so outrageous that you're going to want to hate me. But that's not really who I am. And the fact that people know him as a notorious person is just more into the propaganda that he sent himself up to do. It's one thing to be famous. It's another thing to be infamous. And he's crafted himself from just a talented guy to burgeoning, inspiring artists to a character of pop that is like, no one else is doing this. So there's a couple of different artists that come to mind when you describe Kanye West in this light. Artists like Lady Gaga. Exactly like her. Lady Gaga is exactly. So Lady Gaga is a really brilliant piano pianist. She can sing operatically. She has great octaves. But she makes pop music because she knows that's what sells. And she's crafts the character. How do you know that? She says it in an interview. Does she? Yeah, she said. Like she knows her demographic very well. So she plays to that demographic. She's very flamboyant and boisterous in very specific areas. So she can sell and cater to that group. It's a product. There seems to be a lot of variation in say poker face and the shallows. Exactly. There seems to be a wide window. And that's executive meddling. Kanye West is Kanye West. Like that is him doing that. That is everything he's constructing is him. And you can tell how meticulously he's constructed this personality. Like when he does Album Per Pedro, like the Silicone Per Pedro. Like there are songs in there that's like, why is this even a song in here? Because it's what Kanye West the character would make as a song. It's just like static and like words said on backwards. It's terrible. But it's what that character would make. We're looking at basically fake wrestling. Like the rock came out with an album. It's like I'm the rock people's elbow. But that's like Dwayne Johnson pretending to be the rock. Making an album. People are like, the rock is so terrible. It's like, no, that's a guy pretending to be a terrible guy making music. It's so brilliant. So do you think Kanye has said a lot of weird things? Yes, he has said a lot of weird things. I'm a proud non-reader of books. It's so great. Why is that a good thing? To me that's a bizarre statement that kind of tears on. I think it's the Kanye brand is crazy. So like, as a musician and as someone who has respect for myself, I could never find myself saying something as outrageous. To a public. I agree. Again, I said his persona is someone who's trying to say something that seems ridiculous. So you think that's just the Kanye character? It is. So like for example, TMZ followed Kanye to Europe. He was going to pick up his kids in some babysitter's place, nanny's place in London. Like the British TMZ are way more polite than the American TMZ. And they were like, they didn't even recognize Kanye. It's like, are you Kanye West? He's like, oh yes, man. Who are you? And they have like a really, really nice back and forth where he dropped the persona completely. And he's talking to you as if I was talking to you. I'm like, this guy is not the guy who he's pretending to be when he's doing the American news. So you think Kanye is a character? It's like Hulk Hogan the character versus whatever his actual name is. Because he's really not Hulk Hogan. And part of the character is to be as outrageous as possible as much attention as possible. It's a single man's PR campaign to stay relevant. And it's so hard to stay relevant when there's so many rappers. But he's doing it and producing music that's still, hey man, that's pretty good music. Like some of those tracks are still pretty good. Not all of them. Some of those tracks are like, huh, that's pretty good. Sure. I'm just saying, and he's a family man, well married, did not divorce. Like he's good family values, pays his taxes. He's already better than the Pope. Like I'm just saying, like if you want like a good role model of like this is how you handle your own business and empire. You would do the Kanye restaurant. His sessions are free. When you go to Atlanta, he does block parties that you'll get trapped in, free. He'll play in Peach Tree Street and he'll have his friends. He'll have a common there. He'll have Low Punk. I don't know if you like Low Punk or if you like trap. Chance the Rapper will be there too. Sure. Saba will be there. It's insane. And it's free. And you're like, why are you so good to us? Because he's just a cool dude. Deep down he's a cool guy. When he does interviews, he'll say something stupid. Slavery wasn't that bad. He will say something really outrageous. Trump is great. Trump is great. I'm going to support him next. Oh my God. Whatever it gets. No, no, no. But I think he's playing a character. I think at this point the only point of real disagreements is that while this might be a genius move on Kanye to create this crazy character to stay relevant. Yeah. I wouldn't want that repertoire as an individual. I wouldn't want to be that person who says the crazy shit, who acts even if it's an act that he supports Trump. You're saying he's very brave to be the only person doing it. He's different from me. I wouldn't do it. I couldn't do it either. That's why there's only one Kanye West. Sure. There was one thing I wanted to do. Sure. I don't have any practice in doing this. And you're talking about stuff that's not philosophical. No, I can do something that's not philosophical. All right, what do you want? So I play video games. Yes. I'm very competitive. Okay. I think that fighting games, when it comes to video games, is the highest form of competition. God damn it, we agree on everything. No, you're right. Smash Brothers Melee? Well, that's... Smash Brothers Melee? Yes. Smash Brothers Melee is a fighting game according to Evo. Well, not anymore. So I don't disagree. So maybe... Are you really into Smash? I'm really into Smash. We can have a disagreement about Smash. Okay. I don't think it belongs in the fighting game community. Well, I mean, you don't think it belongs in the fighting game community. I don't think it's a part of the fight. I don't think it belongs... I don't think it's a part of the fighting game community. We can talk about that. Okay. Smash is not a part of the fighting game community. We're trying really hard to find something we disagree on. Because we've been struggling about this since, what, June of last year? We've talked several times. Alright, let's try this again. Smash is not a part of the fighting game community. Smash is not... Why do you think that? So when you look at the fighting game community, the OGs that have been coming up since Street Fighter 2, the people that have been playing fighting games for the longest fighting games has been a thing. There's an understanding of who people are. There's a really broad... Alex Vy is Alex Vy. People know who Dago is. You know who the people are. Sonic Fox. Sonic Fox, even now. Everyone fucking knows it's Sonic Fox. I'm sorry, can I swear on this? That's not the first one. Is it not? That's the first one I caught. Oh, okay. Anyway... And you don't see this in Smash. At least it's not from the Smash community to the broader fighting game community. It's still spread out. Yeah. So like, I saw at a live stream, I can't remember what tournament it was, someone needed a broadcaster for... Not a broadcaster. What do you call it when the guys that talk while the game is going on? You call it a broadcaster? A broadcaster. A commentator. A commentator. Some guys from Smash Player jumped in and sat next to Alex Vy and had no idea who he was. Okay. One of the biggest names in Street Fighter. His name was Fighting Games. He had no idea who this guy was. And so to me that says that Smash is a very insular community. It is an insular community. That doesn't branch out as much as other fighting game players do. Agree. Why does that not make it part of the fighting game community? Because they don't participate in the overarching community. So if there was a fighting game that didn't participate in, say for example, there's SmashCon. Okay, SmashCon. Street Fighter doesn't donate money to SmashCon. So SmashCon can happen. Sure. But when Evo happens, the Smash players invest money so that Evo can take place. The drive to get Evo back in in 2014 for the Melee. They were competing at Skull Girls or Skull Girls. With Skull Girls. And they raised $100,000 so that Evo could take place. Well, they raised that money so Smash could be at Evo. Yeah, but they were raising money to bring up the name of what Evo is. So it's such a big tournament that you have to raise $100,000, just to even be elected into the game. This is a big deal. They are helping rise. As Smash rises, I feel like other games rise as well because people who like, I shouldn't be debating you on this one. I mean, we're doing Street Pismology. I'm already personally charged on this. But don't you think the better more people are aware of Smash, the more they will also be like, oh, and there's some other games here too. So it is funny. Usually when I say Smash or usually when I bring up fighting games, Smash often is the first thing people think of. Take it. That is often the first thing people think of and I won't deny that. You're not saying Smash is an easy game. I'm not saying Smash isn't a fighting game. I just don't think it's part of the real broader fighting game community. There's a hardcore aspect to the fighting game community. Yeah. So the fighting game community, as this is a negative aspect of it, is a very, very insular community as they don't like outsiders. It's hard to get into it. And that stems back from... You're heading out. It's a camera set. Even newer players that are big and good, like infiltration has only been playing Street Fighter for like six years. That's a long time still, but yeah. But compared to like Alex Vi, who's been doing it for like 20 years. Sure, but like you compare that to Manga who's been playing for like 20, 19 years now? And it's like, they don't even care for new players who have grown up with the online generation. Can I fill this out at you? Sure. If another version of Street Fighter came out, Infiltrator will probably be very good at that game. If Daigo will play Street Fighter 6, Mango Hungrybox will continue to play Melee until Melee's done. They are Melee players. Yeah, there is that weird thing that they always play Melee. They like a game. But there are players that there's always side tournaments. Like Daigo is at the Street Fighter 2 side tournament. There are third strike tournaments still. Like mainstream third strike tournaments still. They are not a big part of the fighting game community? No. But they're still a part of it? Because the new... Even... They're not a big part, but you would still agree they're a part of it. I think, yeah, they're a big part. They're definitely a part of it. They're a very small part of the fighting game. I think the reason Melee caught on and it stayed latched on is because Brawl was very not conducive to a competitive environment. I'm totally with you. But overall, not a big part of the fighting game community, but still a part of the fighting game community. Would you agree? Maybe a small part. It's... It's... It's undeniable. I mean, it's an evil every year. So just to revisit back at the start of the conversation, you said it's not... Smash is among capital letters. Smash is not a part of the fighting game community. If we agree that it's a small part, how do you feel about revisiting the original play? Well... If we agree that it's a small part of the fighting game community, would you still say it's not part of the fighting game community? Perhaps not. But I still think there is a lot about Smash that is very, very different from the rest of the fighting game community. Nice. Are you guys together? Yes. Can I interview you? Sure. I've never done this before. I think I'll have better luck disagreeing with you on something than this guy who I feel is just my brother. I can't believe we immediately got into the fighting games together. I wasn't expecting to sit down with someone. Can you do fighting games? Yeah, I do. I really love fighting games. Dude. I love mainland. It breaks my heart that I'm sorry. What about Mortal Kombat 11? I love Mortal Kombat 11. You know Ronda Rousey? Yeah, he voices Sony Blend. Yeah, that's crazy. You know, they just announced this... They just announced this yesterday. We're going to talk about this real quick. Real quick. They just announced this yesterday. They got it, but the guy who played Sting Stung in the first movie... I know about that. He's going to reprise the role. He's played Sting Stung in Mortal Kombat 11. They even changed the space a little bit. Yeah. They looked the same. I'm totally down with that. It's so really cool. I can't wait. I'm going to be in the beta next week. What? How'd you get in the beta? All you have to do is pre-order the game. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, they had the stress test last weekend. I got into that luckily. All you have to do to get in the beta is pre-order the game. You get a code. Yeah. Oh my shit. Okay. I got into the beta. Okay. Cool. Yeah? Did you see it? I couldn't get into Ultimate. Did you see it? I tried getting into Ultimate, but I couldn't get into Ultimate. For me, I'm unfortunately one of the... If it doesn't host melee, I don't want to watch it. Like, that's kind of my thing. Okay. And then I'll watch Street Fighter just out of tradition. Just out of like... Yeah. Street Fighter. And if it's Sonic Fox playing Injustice, I'll watch that match because I know it's Sonic Fox. So I'm following the characters and I'm looking for the storylines more than just the games. Oh. For me, it's all about the game. I'm trying to think of something else. I'm sorry. We'll talk about more. Yeah. I would like to learn a little bit about that. That's a few questions. Yeah. You can go ahead. I've never done this before. Like, if you're like David Tigers up there, you can pick it down. Okay, definitely. Yeah. Where's my... What was that? The console you roll on. The console. Oh. You're a PC gamer? He's a PC gamer. Are you a PC gamer? Yes. I don't have any fighting game up here, sir. They have every fighting game up here, sir. I know. It's just I don't have a PC. You're enough to rock. Oh. Well, I'm in the squad.