 If you still have Thanksgiving leftovers, it's time throw it out. Run it back starts now Good Monday morning and welcome to run it back. I just want to introduce everyone first of all happy late Thanksgiving Hope everyone enjoyed it. We're all a little bit fatter Stadium insider Shum Shirania with us Chandler Parsons Eddie Gonzalez and guys We're just gonna jump right in because we had a long weekend of basketball in the Dallas Mavericks. Don't look now They're not very good at least not at the moment. They've lost four straight They're nine and ten sitting 11th in the West Chandler at this point your level of concern for this team is what? Yeah, I mean I've been concerned with them, you know pretty much from jump I think even early on when they were winning games Luca's usage rate coming out of the You know playing for his national team was way too high and they got they won some games But now it's clearly catching up to them. He's you know, their other players are frustrated I think you know the Jalen Brunson deal. I think is gonna haunt them for quite some time He was that secondary ball handler that could kind of initiate the offense for them Um, Luca is not really this physical specimen that can handle this type of load throughout a whole season So you can kind of see him falling off a little bit the The end of games that you're getting a little sloppy for them This is an interesting team because I think the only thing they can do really is make a move like they usually try to do but Uh, I'm concerned. I'm concerned with their roster. I'm concerned with the level of talent. They've surrounded luka with Uh, I'm really concerned with their end of game situations. This team, uh You know, they have a they have a player like luka that they have to maximize and take advantage of it I just don't think they've done that yet. And uh, it's clearly starting to show with with, uh, you know, these losses that are up outing and piling up Yeah, I'm concerned as well. Um, you know this style of basketball concerns me in general and They call it helio centric, right the guy who just pounds the ball all game and And and and racks up all the stats and usually gets some wins But we've only seen this work on a high level Really once with lebron and he required an absolute elite secondary ball handler First with duane way then with kairi erving The next closest thing you could say to that style of ball actually winning a title actually making deep play off runs Is is yonis and yonis isn't exactly the step back three guy So, yeah, you have to build this really weird team where most guys are standing around They're not involved. They have to deal up because this guy isn't going to defend that much And they end up with bad contracts with davis pertanz with tim hardaway jr They take a spurs on uh christian wood and he's expiring and maybe he's their best Trade asset at the moment, but he's one of their best players. They almost can't afford to lose him It's you know, you cobble together this weird roster. They defend it really well last year. They're not defending as well this year Yeah, there's plenty of reason to be concerned even in the jumbled up western conference right now Shams, what are you thinking in this team? This team only works if the guys around luka donchers can step up and last year you had that jaylon brunson Of course played a big part, but i'm just looking at their three-point percentages luka himself is only shooting 30 from three-point range, but then you have tim hardaway jr He's at 29 red g bullet 28 maxi cleaver 31 There's only three guys in the rotation shooting 40 or higher from three-point range that spencer dimwit Christian wood and josh green so if the shooters around him like last year are not going to step up This team is going to be what it is right now, which is very very mediocre middle of the pack Um and a guy that i feel like needs to get probably more opportunity is spencer dimwit He's at around 13 shots a game so far. He's he's played efficiently from the field around 47 from the field 42 from three-point range you want to see a guy like that Christian wood other players usage rates go up because like chandler said the style that they're going with right now with luka donchich His use rate has to be by far and away the number one in the league And so i think they need to get other guys and increase usage rates Especially if god's expensive dimwit who has shown that he can ball handle he can make players around him better It is nuts because i feel like this is a team We don't no one talks about and this is why i i don't think the expectations are high as the season goes on Because of all those reasons but shams they got to do something right? I mean you can't waste luka donchich Are there any upgrades that they're making? Yes sources tell me the mavericks are going to sign kemba walker to a deal and he's a four-time all star He has not played all season. He was waved by the pistons But they're going to bring him in and they were looking at him prior to his release in detroit when he was talking to teams He was talking to charlotte at one point But i think now they know that they need that extra ball handler kemba walker. Let's see what he has left in the tank They're going to waive Facu facu compasso So we'll see kind of where this goes for For the mavericks and if kemba walker is anything left in the tank that he can provide But if he does and if you can even show glimpses of what he showed in boston and in new york This gives them at least a third ball handler that they can really rely on Throughout and especially late in games You know what's interesting here with this is They have this star player and luka donkic and They just got rid of his boy kembazo last year they get rid of his boy boban He was super close with salah mezri. They get rid of them So i don't know if there's anything here But this is three guys that i know for a fact where luka's best friends on the team And they just keep shipping these dudes out and they're not getting in the talent he needs They're not getting him that second player. He finally had someone is he finally had somewhat of a robin to his batman and jalen brunson And they let him walk This is going to get frustrating for luka. There's already media asking him when five years What are you going to leave not so it's definitely like swirling around there? But this is interesting. I think kemba, you know, we'll see what version we get of him But they clearly are in panic mode and know that luka desperately needs help And this is a guy who wants to win when you watch him play, you know, he has competitive spirit When you watch him play overseas or his national team, you know, he wants to win. He wants to win championships He's used to winning championships. He won them in Euro league. He wants to win them in the NBA He knows that's the ultimate crown and achievement I I want to push back a little bit on sounds. I think there was high expectations for this team They went to the west of carpets finals last year. They felt like they made additions that made sense Everybody knew them losing jalen brunson was going to hurt But I think people still expect it better than what they got luka was the runaway mvp favorite And maybe he still is right. Maybe they they they climbed to 500 and better Throughout the season. His numbers are incredible. He's leading league and scoring He's going to lead the league and scoring as long as he stays healthy But I do think there was some expectations and they're failing to meet them And at some point they're going to start scramble. I mean, they're scrambling now kemba Did not look great last time we saw him. He's been dealing with knee issues for years now And it I don't think this is the fix. I love kemba. I think when he's right, he can add a ton to this team This isn't the fix they're looking for They they Like like like sam said, they have to shoot better. Those guys have to shoot better If they're going to play this like martyre ball as my guy sam espandari would say They're going to get wide open shots And if those guys don't make them it's their fault when they do make them it's going to be luka's fault But that's just the nature of the game But if they're going to be breaking all day, then they're not they're not right for that team But you guys hit on the head too this this team they went to the western conference finals So the expectation for luka for the fans for everybody around, you know, this franchise The bar is set high and you never want to do that with the younger team And then take a step back. I just feel like that's where they are right now and I feel like, you know They got to make a move from my eyes I think look it's one thing to have expectations, especially fans. They always do we always do It's just not realistic It feels like because of what they've done or who they've let go and the rest of the western conference seems to be waking up At the worst possible time for the mavericks But christian wood was supposed to be the addition that would help Um, at least in the off season and he's frustrated. He doesn't like his playing time He's not out there in closing minutes. He said so so I guess the question is Are you guys okay with the fact that he has publicly voiced his opinion on frustration shaler. I mean This is this doesn't happen all the time, but are you okay with it when it does? I mean, listen, I don't think you ever this early you want to go public. This is just a bad look I don't think christian wood has ever been kind of a high character guys So this kind of makes sense coming out of him. But yeah, you know, he's in a contract here He's trying to get a bag and he's clearly their second best player on most nights. His percentages are insane He's knocking down threes. He did start the second half last night and came out hot in the third quarter Um, yeah, I I mean I get the frustration I I think this is more of an in-house thing that should be handled but Yeah, he came there to be, you know, second fiddle to luka and he did, you know During media day, he seemed as if he didn't know he was even coming off the bench So this guy started off on the wrong foot and to his credit He's played very very well and limited opportunity for whatever reason You know, that is I just think maps kind of know this isn't a permanent fix. This isn't going to be luka's You know secondary guy forever Um, but you would think with them struggling and him coming off the bench. I get why he's frustrated He knows he could be doing more. He thinks he could be doing more and the team is losing So, uh, I definitely see why but to go public to go publicly already He's already has a couple spats with the media. I just don't think it's ever a good look This is a guy who's played on seven teams in his career so far. He's only 26 years old Oh, yeah, maybe complain privately It's it's it's a lot he from the moment he got on this team He's been complaining and you kind of understand why he's been also made teams Now he's now he feels like he's got a reason with them losing and everything So now it's it's only kind of get worse with this guy. It's not it isn't going to get better Okay, well, could they I mean maybe they move him. Maybe that's that's I don't know I have Maybe it's just because I'm here. I just don't have any expectations for that maverick team as constructed But the western conference we mentioned people are starting to heat up a team that I guess some maybe we're worried about But in all honesty, they've earned enough equity not to be worried. They beat the wolves 137 114 yesterday, um We're done, right Chandler like we don't need to ask anymore. Are we worried? Is there something wrong? Are we moving on? Again, I think they would have loved to get off to a to a better start. Um But what we've all been kind of saying listen, this is there's a method to their madness They have way too much experience. They're way too smart. They're trying to get the young guys burned They're trying to get them involved and this is valuable minutes that they're going to hopefully pay off come june and come to playoffs The warriors are one of a very few teams that you shouldn't really worry about and last night This is the best version of them. You had everybody clickin clay and jordan pool played good together. Dre mom was doing all his things Um, you know wiggins was solid This was a balanced attack where everyone was pretty efficient from the field for the most part And this was a mismatched nightmare for for minnesota. So this this is the team that you know, we've we've grown to You know see succeed and this is the team that no one's going to really worry about because you know, they're going to be there at the end The end there was a little mini uh tea party Dremond got a technical for celebrating on the court stuff, uh in a mocking fashion seemingly Then gets teed up look like a little a moment of solidarity between these two guys eddie But see the chemistry. I don't think it was worried between those two it was more jordan pool But is this a good sign for what's going on behind the doors with this team? A arrogant season is back in uh in st. Francisco Uh, look, this is this has been this team forever. This has been this team when nobody believes in them Uh, no, this is fun. I like this. It's You know, is the camaraderie back? Sure. I mean they they stuff issues to iron out They they they punch that guy in his face in the whole world. So but Look, this is what the timberwolves are doing to teams. They're just making them feel great out there The the warriors are fine. They're they're three games out of the one seed as crazy as that sounds They still have defensive issues, but they're always looking towards may and june They were never worried about what's going on right now. So Yeah, but this is fun I I will say it's it's interesting to see how much these guys feel themselves when things are going their way And then the minute they get like a bad tweet they they you know, they absolutely lose their mind So it's fun and steve curry. I love them to death It's hard to say anything bad about steve curry But the dude gets away with murder on the celebrating on this on all the antics all the tactics Not many players would get as many chances or the he'd be teed up way more If he wasn't steve curry. So I got to say all the hoopla all the celebrating They do a lot and there is really never really consequences for them So I'm actually I was I was happy to see the ref kind of checked them But you have a dream on pointing to the baseline like like he was not six feet in front of it when he was doing Yeah, like when you did the dance, that's a different spot than when the whistle was just remember this though When the media starts talking a little negative not to get so salty That's fair old school new school Shoms Yeah, I I love the camaraderie. I'm for that But I think the biggest thing for the warriors turning it around is really early in the year What we saw was the balance of the youth and the older guys, right now You're starting to see draymond clay steve get back to their rhythm and james wiseman. He's in the g league He's been kind of you know brought away from the team. You have john the cominga He's finding an organic, you know niche in that rotation Whereas before it was like is steve kurd just gonna gonna really force him onto the floor as he can just force him in a minute So I think overall it's been a balance for everyone the organization for steve kurd to find a way to organically Blend this mix of of young players and vets because I think at the beginning of the year you saw a lot of it was forced We're not we're now they're kind of back where they were last season A little bit in terms of it's it's organic when cominga plays it's organic minutes It's not really force fed minutes anymore Chandler, what's a weakness? I mean if you have to point something out with this team, what is it? Uh, I mean it's clay clay tomson's got to be clay tomson. He him and draymond have to do what they did last night Uh, they have to find a ways to be effective They have to find a ways to impact the game and and do exactly what they did last night clays gotta take good shots He's gonna knock him down when he's open They have to find a way for clay and jordan pool to kind of coexist Steff is gonna do what steff does and for the most part wiggins has been very very solid and their second best player I'm not worried about them, but it's clay tomson. It's keeping him healthy It's keeping him, you know in rhythm And guys like jordan pool that are able to coexist with all with all these other stars and be able to produce But and if they do that, yeah, that that's what makes them, you know A championship contender in my eyes Yeah, I think they need to get their defense up to par up to their standard They'll spend all season dealing with that That's gonna be a constant for them is is figuring out defensive lineups that work with jordan pool on the floor He's he was a weakness on in that In that aspect last year in the playoffs. He continues to be that this year. He's one of the worst net ratings in the league Uh, so that's gonna be an issue for them But that will go as their shooting goes handlers, right? If clay tomson is shooting like clay tomson They'll look way better if draymond green is facilitating like old draymond green. They'll look way better And and it goes from there, but they'll they'll have to rely on their defense When when it all when push comes to shove and that's gonna want to be their focus now And I think that's why we're gonna see a little bit more moody and kamega to athletic guys who get out there And they do defend whatever weaknesses they have an offense They absolutely make up for them on defense and the thing about having somebody like stephan curry Is you can have weaknesses on offense when you have that guy So that that to me will be their focus going forward It is time now for me to do my job the part that hurts. Uh, we have to talk about the lakers in a positive way So let me get through this, uh One fourth straight had a nice weekend here in san Antonio. They're five and one over their last six LeBron has returned anthony davis. However sat the bench Um, is this the corner turn that i'm assuming they thought was coming and their fans were hoping Was coming eddie Uh, how many how many spurs games do they have left they have I mean literally I have literally seen them I've seen them three times in eight days three times to see the team I dislike the most in all of sports is some sort of torture and must have been a bad person in previous life But anyways, that's my rant eddie. Uh, yes, they have had the spurs like 90 times And it's a good it's a good stretch for them. I mean, they're gonna play some hard people later But have you seen enough to think all right? Maybe there's something here They needed this and they're getting healthier. They have shrewder back. They have thomas brine Who's being all been uneven, but it's nice to have that body there as well ad's look like a monster and obviously they got LeBron back We knew that this season would turn around quite a bit. They have no incentive to tank and moves They do have some guys they do have talent And as the the league is it's in a standstill right now the the standings are so jumbled up One through eight in the west is sort of is separated by one and a half games They have a chance. Um, this is a nice role I think the camaraderie has changed for them as well Like we're being body language doctor here, but they just Winning cures all right, but they just look like they're in a better place We're not hearing about as much drama rust has been slotted into a role that absolutely makes sense for him And he's continuing to to thrive there. Um, yeah, they just look better Like body language now, and I guess the spurs will do that to you. It's nice to play the spurs twice Hey You better watch it because somehow I'll figure out a way to mute you No, but you know what they're you I think that's a good point Yeah, I agree with eddie looking at their schedule. I mean every good team they've played They've lost They they beat beat the spurs three times and they beat the pistons basically like they're like they They're not a good team, but like again, they have no incentive to tank I do think it's promising the way anthony davis has been playing and then you get that same type of performance from lebron When he came when he got back Now the trick is to to get them to do that together continue to to have guys like lani walker and austin reeves Produce and kind of you know play off those guys But yeah, I mean anytime you can get on a streak like this in a season is great and You know, it's interesting to me to see when their schedule gets a little harder, which is coming up here It'll be interesting, but I don't I still I just don't see it with this team. I don't think they're very good I don't think they have enough shooting. I don't think they have enough depth thomas brine and shooter do help a little bit. It gives them a little bit more, but You know, I lebron and ad have to do what they're doing On the floor at the same time now for them to win games. I just don't see that happening Shumps I'll give the lakers credit for this like last year They lost like 10 games to bad teams that they had no business losing this year under darvin ham I have to give them credit They are taking advantage of teams like the spurs that are coming in and they're winning these games So you have to give darvin ham that credit that he's able to have them Prepared against these bad teams that they're supposed to win But I think the way that denner shooter and russia westbrook are being used It makes patrick berley's role who's been suspended It makes his role very interesting moving forward, but it's also been curious their offensive efficiency has gone from You know one of the worst in the league to now middle of the pack So you're starting to see their numbers climb up. There's still the second worst three-point shooting team to the nicks So shout out to the nicks for that, but I think right now the lakers You know, they're they're beating up on bad teams, but this is something that they weren't doing last season Um Shout out to the nicks. Uh, there was a moment in the game Here we go. Uh, zack collins wrestle westbrook. Um somehow rustle westbrook's head Met with zack collins elbow came down a couple times now in fairness that it was right on the hairline everybody knows That's a super bleedy spot Uh, but the blood started to pour immediately lebron turned into a doctor And zack collins was handed a flagrant to and ejected from the game Chandler obviously the hometown fans thought maybe a flagrant one. This seemed a little excessive What did you think because if there was no blood? I don't think this happens, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think the you know the effect afterwards with him Disgusting blood made it seem a lot worse than it was I had to watch this a couple times to see where he got him What part of his body hit his face? This wasn't like a violent intentional You know, he got him in the air and to be honest with you rust tried to get him in the air It's all the contact. So I don't think zack collins did this on purpose by any means You almost have to give him a flagrant too just because of the scene afterwards and the reaction But I don't honestly think this was that dirty He was in the air and rust kind of jumped into him and there's nothing really zack collins could have could have done But yeah, I He was bleeding pretty bad and they had to throw a flagrant to there Yeah, I think look you get that much blood. You're probably getting kicked out of the game No matter what they say about the 80s or whatever, but uh When you jump in the air and you swipe down like that when you get caught in the air and you come down You know bad things are usually going to happen unless you land right on the ball But he got a right smack in the middle of the forehead with that big ass elbow. So I mean, I guess I get why rust was upset, but it always cracks me up. Like these are Semi normal plays. I know it went well wrong But you know, you get all mad because you got hit in the head, but like yo you ducked under him to get found Like that was the point of what you did I don't know flagrants who seem crazy in in the moment There was a pretty bad flagrant net spacers as well like two guys just pumped into each other and they got flagrant and it cracks and put Yeah, I mean it it's whatever You have no it's not it's not whatever But that's what this is this isn't this isn't a defenseless player This isn't a guy going up for a layup and getting clubbed at this is exactly what rustle tried to do He tried to get him in the air and he tried to get to the free throw line So I I don't see it honestly. I wish they would have gave him a flagrant one I think they would have if he didn't bleed out Yeah, I mean it's the first of all not our fault. He's a bleeder. Okay. That's a weird spot But also it's interesting because they made up immediately like across the court Zach was like I was just trying to go for the ball Russell's like, okay It was just such a bizarro world moment. They'd already lost Jeremy sohan and pertle and I'm just making excuses because I'm sad. Okay. Let's go to the clippers and we're sticking to the western conference Look, the clippers are without kawai. They're without pg But don't tell avid the zoo bots that 31 points 29 rebounds led his team over the pacers Um, not bad pretty impressive first player with 30 25 and 80 shooting in the game Since just shack, you know back in 2004 Chandler, what what's the deal with zoo bots? What got in it? I mean, yeah, he this is an unbelievable game This is a historic game. He dominated every aspect so efficient I will say before this game. There's you know, all these these Miles turner the clippers are interested and this dude went out there and dominated So he put, you know, I think he took that personal. I think he took this on and I mean 31 and 29 I wish he didn't fall out. I wish he could have had a 30 and 30 But this was an insane game and and I'm happy for him. This one game I went to Was cleveland and and la and for whatever reason he just is so much bigger than these guys on the court Like I don't know Maybe not a game like this, but he should be dominating games more often, especially against smaller teams and really making them pay But uh, this was a monster performance and I'm glad he did it with all these, you know Rumors swirling that they're going after another big guy Not the greatest show for miles turner, right? One of the most talked about names in the league her trade everybody wants them The Lakers want them everybody's team wants them Uh, you know shout out to zu because that's kind of like what you feel like a big fella should be doing in today's league The league has gotten crazy small. He's a very specific Almost extinct type big and this is there for them if they wanted I seen nerk it's this week He played the next last night. He fully demo bit These guys, you know, you see uh, Jonas in uh, in new orleans as well They can have these night I I just know there's a rebound in the second quarter like he's pissed about right now because he was right on the cusp of that But yeah, nice to see he's had some pretty big performance He had big playoff performances and you know as you get deeper and guys can kind of dribble him out of the series He he he has to fall back a little bit But he's a difference maker for that team and there's a reason why they locked them up with some with some nice money And kept them out there Shoms shoms shoms shoms. Yeah, you know what's coming Your Lakers had Zubat. He probably would have been their starting center on the championship team He probably would have still been there They traded him for Mike Muscala in 2019 at the trade deadline I think they also sent a draft pick as well to the Clippers. So talk about an in-city in rival You know trade him to your rival now this guy's gonna be a stalwart for that organization and Like like Eddie said and like Chandler said like this is this is a team in the Clippers that has been looking for bigs I think more a backup big than anything. I don't think they're trying to really replace Zubat Especially after last night. I don't know why you would Uh, I by the way, I heard you shoms and I'm noting everything all the hate today Uh, take it a quick break coming up shoms will be back with the latest on gordon hayward and the weekend's best Ducks all that when run it back returns All right season debut set for net forward tj warren It's just in shoms. Okay. When can we expect it? Hopefully some good news here for brooklyn nets fans and eddie warren is Ex... Yeah, warren is expected to make his his season debut his return to the floor on friday against the toronto raptors michel He has not played since december 2020 that multiple foot procedures This is a guy who in the bubble was one of the best players in 2020 average over 20 points for the season He had he had 50 point games in the bubble like he was on another level But unfortunately foot injuries set him back the net signed him to a minimum in the off season And there's a hope and an expectation and and you know that that he's able to find a role in that lineup Initially coming off the bench it can score because they definitely need help in that three four area right now in their rotation That is a long long period of time without playing. Of course, we get some gordon hayward news I feel like gordon hayward news in the last few years. It's never great Uh shoms, what's the latest on the extent of his injury? He has a fracture in his left shoulder. He's he's gonna miss multiple weeks here I'm told and I think the most fascinating development actually is what his his wife robin Uh put out there over the weekend, which was that he's played on the injury Uh, you know for a few games. This is an injury that the team has was initially withholding Uh, according to what his wife put out there and I I'm told it's also believed that he played on This injury for multiple games, uh, before they made the diagnosis and now he will be out an indefinite period of time And there's a hornet season that his injury riddled. It's starting to slip away. We'll see as the trade deadline gets near You know, which guys could they move? But this probably puts gordon hayward in in a difficult position if he was ever going to be traded at all He seems to have that curse. Um, just can't can't be healthy for a long period of time chandler But the claim is that he was made to play with the injury is what his wife was claiming. Have you ever been made to play through an injury? Listen, I wouldn't say he was made to play. That seems extreme Did they maybe encourage him to play through injury? Have they had enough with you know, him being out missing time their team losing him making a lot of money This would be a situation where I could see that happening And you know, there's a lot of drama going around this team with bridges and book night now gordon hayward's wife Uh, they're struggling. They're you know, lamella was out Um But the idea of a team making him play is is hard for me to believe especially a guy like gordon hayward Who's you know, a smart guy an older guy There was a time in my career where a team doctor told me that my injury couldn't get worse And I continued to play and my injury got a lot worse and that guy got fired So there there are certain things like that that do happen, but nowadays it's it's load management It's how do you help the player like when I was in atlanta the medical director chelsea They were whole medical staff. They were unbelievable at protecting the players almost too much So it's hard for me to believe they made him play Uh, but there's definitely things that go on with injuries where like I said I was told my injury was not going to get worse and it got very very worse and kind of started spiraling on what happened with my knees, but This is this is kind of pillow talk going public I think Ooh All right eddie sticking with that. What do you think bad look for for family members whether it be wives brothers moms Do you like that? Yeah, like I understand the frustration I mean we've had some kind of infamous twitter accounts mama draemon and and on and on and Then they're kind of just in voice their opinions and let it be known and I know from the player stance It's like hey, I can't tell my mom what to do and what not to do. She's a grown ass woman Um, but yeah, I mean I think in most instances. Yeah, it's it's you know, you do bear a little bit of responsibility somebody connected to One of the players to not do that if if you can and and I understand there's frustration We all watch the games and get frustrated with our favorite players not getting preferential treatment or whatever, but Look far be it for me to tell robert hayward what to do and not to do Uh, with without situations like this We wouldn't have aisha curry telling us the league is rigged and all these special moments to me that live near and Dear in my twitter heart, but yeah, I think in general. I mean me myself personally I'm definitely more muted than I've imagined people would think I am because You know, I don't want I don't want last thing I want is kevin on a podium going Yo, so the thing eddie said and then having to answer for me joking on twitter, but But yeah, I mean I think in general. Yeah, let's just let the players handle it and he's he's out now I mean he is out and he was diagnosed with his injury. So like What does that help at this point? Nobody apparently shams as always. Thank you. We'll see you bright and early tomorrow morning We still got some families and some people who have families These men all have families and somebody didn't seem to care over the weekend We're gonna start things off with uh christops porzingis. Man. What a weird career that guy's had But in this particular case, he gets embarrassed by bam oughta bio. We're gonna roll that tape You guys can watch it. I mean, I hope we are Let me see that's a weird that's a tough spot guarding the road like that, you know Kp the monster. I'm sure I'm sure he'll get it back at some point Yeah, he gets stuck here trying to play both. I will say bam has been playing so much better But I mean this isn't like a poster, right? This isn't like a body It's a great pass. He kind of got caught in between here But it sounds even more impressive that he caught it with one hand and kept it I do like that. My hand always looks pretty amazing catch by them. Yeah, that's at the top of the box. My goodness Yeah, that's that's not bad. It's not bad. How about this one sga? I do love an ankle breaker Oh, okay That's fair. This was dirty too Yeah, was there like there's there's minimum There's minimal push off there, right? Or is he getting with the lie? He gets in I mean a little bit chicken wing little elbow, but usually you get like a full blown stiff arm. That's pretty nice That's it's almost like he kind of falls after the fact. It's like weird late Look at that delayed. Whoops He tries to land on two feet and just goes down right here Oh And either way it looks bad no matter what no matter how he got there. How about miles churner? Uh with a jade mcdaniel's moment Let's see Yeah, this is yeah Good try it's good try jaden, but no that's nice I wish I wish I wish he would have done this on zoo bots when he was having 31 and 29 But this He got the shot And mcdaniel's this point you got to do like You got to go with the lazy swipe at that point because he's that's he's he's booming that just just, you know Why I don't know he's coming in hot. I might just get out of the way This is the worst situation you can be in by the way as a defender. You're the help guy or the low guy That's the worst spot you could be in there's nowhere to go. Oh, that's tough. Yeah. Well, here we go Okay, I can't wait to hear what you have to say about this. I mean, I guess this is a pretty bad spot too. He listen You can't ever you can't ever Continue to back up when this man is coming at you full speed You have to meet him damn near at the free throw line because he can do this He will take off from one step inside the free to line and he will put it on your head So this is never a go. Yeah, he's got to almost do the reach down too And just try and give a foul here and make him earn too, but you can't keep backing up with the honest There's such a moment of defeat on nerk. It's too. It's just he's like that. That's it Nurtain venting so well like, you know, he did what best he could do it. It was just nothing The honest was an elbow above him. Like it just didn't matter. Look at that. He wasn't even close to blocking that shot No, not even blocking Chandler And he knew it too by looking his face right there like, uh, what am I doing? Why am I here cat? I'm mason plumly. You're right. Let's just end it now. It's over. Okay. Okay. There's my MVP. Oh my god See, there he is. Plumlee even got caught in no man's land here He he went to block this and then realized oh shit and didn't even keep going I'm giving him no credit for this because of that uniform. That's that's gross. Right. I don't I do not like this uniform They're wearing I also didn't really like the portland ones either. I don't know How about the charlotte jerseys michelle? Yeah, well those are obviously the best jerseys in the league and the fact that they're not even gonna back down and put Them away is my favorite part about it. We have to stand on these they spent all the money Somebody came up with a brilliant idea time for a break. Um, when we come back, which player does yannis think Could be better than him and is it time for jazz fans to panic? Polynes was one of the tweets of the weekend basically telling all the guys in the mba that the more you sit and skip That's the more you're gonna get hurt or injured that you have to build up your pain tolerance And that he actually finished second in rebounds with a broken hand In 1993 god, I love a good get off my lawn moment. It makes me have life chandler What do you think about this? Is it as simple as these guys need to build up pain Tolerance No, and I can't stand shit like this from older players. I think it's it's so salty. It's so sour Uh, look are there some soft mba players now? Yes But the idea of that these guys are that the rules change the load management change the salaries have changed So, yeah, a guy's not gonna play on you know a sore knee when he's making 45 million dollars a year That's above his head. That's it comes from management that comes from the owners. So Are there soft dudes in the league for sure? But the idea of this tweet to all mba players need to build up a pain tolerance is Is silly and it's ridiculous and He looks sour in my eyes I mean Sacramento kings legend op nobody remembered he was second in rebounds. Sorry Whatever year that was we we may remember him from the movie eddy getting caught a black hole That's about it. Uh, no, this is not this is not true. Like this is He's not a doctor. What is he talking about? My thing with this is the style of playing league is so different now Guys are asked to move so much now And and so quickly even just defense if old and palanese played today and had to cover His many screening roles and had to close out as many shooters He would be a little more sympathetic on everybody's feet and legs hurting But no, this is this is insane. Like, you know, if you guys are hurt, you guys are hurt. It's it's fine I like my foot hurt the other day. I almost didn't get on zoom. Like, uh, there's no way Don't go out there and play on a partially torn acl. Kauai. It's fine Okay, but that's different. I mean, I think I would think he's well Maybe he's not maybe he is talking about broken things But I thought it was more like just maybe the little things let that go But I don't know but it's the pain tolerance topic that's got us going I just love it Can I buy that? Because here's the deal. I I had never heard of this next thing Until the weekend, right? MMA basketball Yeah, it's exactly what this is right here if they're in some sort of it's not an octagon per se, but Like the glass shatters. What is happening here guys? Do we like this? I gotta be honest with you. I I've never heard of this either I mean, is it was it entertaining and is it fun to watch? Yeah, sure. I mean, I don't think any good basketball player is ever gonna play in this Right No chance, but yeah, I mean, I would watch it. I think it's I think it's funny that they got a janky backboard They couldn't even get a real This dude's breaking the backboard. Can you imagine the NBA players playing in it? Oh, forget it. Yeah, because they don't none of those guys look over six feet tall unless I'm crazy Are you know how mad I'd be? You know how mad I'd be if I showed up to see a fight and then I was watching these guys play basketball barefoot Where are the matches? Like where are the fights at? Did they actually punch each other and fight? I don't know. Do they leave the glass out if they play on the glass then I'm I'm back in But if but if they clean the glass up, then it's not even that tough This is an insane event. Like who knows what else they were doing in that ring that night Wait, I don't even what was that mean? It's I love it and I don't even know where one would find that particular sport But yannis um seems to be very impressed by young evan mobly actually said quote He can be better than me. That's a heck of a statement from yannis We know how much he loves vicar victor women yama already. So how high do you think the ceiling is on mobly eddie? Not yannis I'll do respect to evan who the analytic crowd loves because of his defense and the the numbers that though it says look, he's a great athletic young player. He's Watching him in person move at that size is pretty fascinating But on offense, he lacks a ton, but I mean to yannis's point You could have said that about yannis his second year in the league as well Uh, I I don't see him as that type of specimen, but yeah, he's he's on a nice path Yeah, I think he's I think just where he is right now. He's better than yannis at that age But I mean those are those are pretty bold words, but I love evan mobly I think he's in the absolute perfect situation with two great guards. He's not even the best big on his team so he's gonna have some games where You know, he has four points. He has six points But then he's gonna have some games where he's just dunking everything and he's got 20 and 20 I think his ceiling is very high. He reminds me of young kevin garnett When he can start creating a little bit more offensively and get his jumper This kid is gonna be very very very good jb vicar staff told me when they drafted him that he is a stud He's different. He can do it all and we're kind of starting to see that on some nights and Uh, the potential is through the roof for this kid Um, we got a panic button time I hate that we're doing this because we've been so positive The world has fallen in love with the utah jazz and the story that they're giving us but They've lost four straight, right? They're three and seven in the last 10 Um, they've gone from first To eight in the western conference standings chandler. Is it panic button time for this team? I'm not necessarily panicking because I didn't expect this in the first place, you know, I mean I think the teams were I think the fans even were expecting this team to tend to kind of be in that You know victor sweepstakes and Look, I think it's not too late. I think they continue to do this I think they try and let lori make the all-star game and have someone represent the jazz and salt lake this this, uh, you know this february, but This is the jazz that we expected So i'm not hitting the panic button, but I think they should continue to do this, you know, trade mic connelly get off these guys Here we go. Kind of you know, kind of you know start preparing for the future Bear to tank I'm with chandler. No panic. They're they're they're playing with house money in either direction A couple tough losses in that stretch too, you know Over time down the stretch the whole nine Uh, they're fine. They're they're cool. It's yeah You can't you can't freak out when they win you damn sure shouldn't freak out when they lose That's fair. They were they're way ahead where we thought they'd be how about the nicks 9 and 11 11th in the eastern conference I mean, I feel like this is the perennial question panic button on the nicks eddie Here we go Yes panic on day one. It's just in a well put together to you It's a bad team I mean they they have to make some moves and every time I watch dynamite You'll make a shot and look amazing and cleave when I look at them and I look at the panic button and it makes a lot of sense That's it panic button always and forever in new york. I feel bad. How about patrick beverly the look we talked about a little bit Uh, he's he's just low. How about this the average anyone playing at least 20 minutes a game not named pj tucker Aw chandler panic button on pat beverly aka trade I love that. This is his highlight though. It's not him shooting It's not His one highlight that we decided to show was him doing that which by the way is smart because no I'm not hitting the panic button because you didn't bring him here to la to score You didn't bring him to make shots You brought the other guys that aren't making shots on the team that I'd hit the panic button on But this is who patrick beverly is this is who he's always been this is who he always will be He's the junkyard dog. He attracts winning. So no, it's not scoring It's not shooting wouldn't they like him would he like to be making these wide open shots? Yes, but his value is toughness his value is defense his value is not scoring That's the other guy's job. And so I am not hitting the panic button on pat Not at all. How about eddie tim hardaway jr. Lois field goal percentage and threes of his career panic Yeah, absolutely I mean, he's another one of the guys on the maps who a lot of these shots are wide open Luca creates great shots for these guys that system creates great shots He he has to be making these he's on an insane contract that is going to be really hard for them to trade Same with davis pertanz. Um, he's coming off a ton of injuries. He's been injury prone the last couple years Yeah, you got a panic absolutely for them. They need him to play way better than he's playing steven I just figured out that that was the panic button. Uh, steven adams with the lowest free throw percentage by a lot By the way, it's just over 27 and a half percent Chandler like I feel like I could do that. Do the grizzlies hit the panic button on this Yeah, because this is hard to do this is this is very very hard to do It's funny. I go I go off with john berry the og all the time and I was talking to him And I said guys like steven adams ben Simmons deandre dorton Do they ever try and call your dad and go and just say and go underhand because at some point this is wild I would shoot 27.6 percentage left-handed like michelle you would easily make thank you or three out of 10 This is this is this is inexcusable. I don't care how big I don't care the other value you do You cannot be shooting 28 percent from the free throw line. This is wild and absurd And I would start going lefty. I would start going underhand. I would do anything other what he's doing now Anything you almost have to try to do that Right like I feel like that just would happen just by kind of aiming. I don't know it's insane Oh, I'm taking a quick break up next. I think we figured it out It's your opportunity to bet against us and win. We might have figured out the pattern. We'll be right back Good news and bad news the bad news is we're over on these but the good news is it means we're consistent Okay, so four leg parlay time. I'm trying to find the silver lining eddie. Give us your two legs go All right, I got Nikola yokets the reigning MVP over 25 and a half points against the Rockets I was playing a big game out of him I like that. What else? I mean, I would actually do like that. That's doable. Okay. Yeah, okay. Look, we're starting off easy We're still easy here. We're going rooty gold bear under 13.5 points against the wizards I just have no faith in rooty gold bear. I'm sorry To the Minnesota people Under for him spam that like what is that? That's a lock all that all those cool words He's not scoring 14 points. There's no way you can't you can't throw out. It's a lock with the track record that we have You just can't uh You got two legs for us Yeah, okay. My first one is After as modest two and a half Cleveland played last night Toronto's a tough place to play I gotta go with the home team on this one Um, yeah, that's what I see happen. I think the guy like that last night and then the suns. I like minus one Uh, the suns are a better team. The kings are kind of riding a high right now But I think you know, they got nothing for deep book tonight. I think the suns get it done Okay, that one it seems low actually on that one. I feel like chandlers are good I think the rooty go bear one wheel. I'm telling you we need a side bet which leg is the one that Like torpedoes us off. You bet 20 bucks. You get 223. I'm thinking it's the go bear one chandler That might get us. I think that might be the jokers funks. I don't think he'll play logs. I think the Oh I need Back from a long from a long road trip. We're gonna be at 1 a.m. Cursing at chandler because he lost us It's the finest one that's like I feel like that's such a low number Look at some point. We are gonna get one of these. Okay, it's just it's just simple math statistically speaking I don't know when it'll be. I don't even know if it'll be in this calendar year guys But I do appreciate that we keep trying I love that we've blown them in every single way and I don't think we've ever had three I don't think we've ever been that close To not even on the big ones, uh, but you know what this could be the day every day is a new day New chances. Uh, that's it for us today We're always on monday through wednesday 10 eastern which means we will be back tomorrow