 Yeah, I've got the watch party going Sean that is a face I don't want to wake up to every morning Christian didn't catch it What'd you do Yeah, I'm recording Sean so of course you are Oh Hey, and Joel is joining as well. Oh, they're gonna party Are you been Mike? Good very good. Thank you, sir. I'm glad to be back. Yeah, we missed you. Oh No, you didn't oh, yes, we did Hey, just to kick things off really quick for those are watching on the live stream This is the this is the Microsoft community office hours and it's an AM a format So we're we're fielding questions from a couple different locations from the office 365 community page out on Facebook Microsoft teams community page out on Facebook as well as from the Microsoft tech community unanswered questions file and there's Joel's forehead and it's hey What up Joel Yeah, I'll find a better place to I'm gonna put us in it's all right. I'm gonna I'm gonna put us into if it'll go Didn't do it. All right, so I do notice this week Christian that your resolution quite a bit fix elated probably the phenomenon you described previously but Yeah, actually seeing that actually I see Christian clear as a bell. I mean No, literally, I can see you in high depth man So you're in Mike you were you were pixelated a few minutes ago Joel's pixelated Mike You're now crystal clear Sean your crystal clear. So who knows it's it's dining. There you are Mr. Hodgkinson, hey, how's it going? Hey Joel long time. No, see okay. Thanks. It's been a long time Okay, well So we've got and we might have howl join us as well We'll go ahead and get started John. I thought we kicked things off with your Your homework from last week you can share kind of what what you've posted. I know it's out on the page Yeah, I was going for extra credit on that homework, so Anyway Class No not really I Was Answering the question that Bilal. I need to find his last name here Bilal was asking regarding That's not the CDN one. This was the a quick look Get PNP group and Joel I just forwarded you the list of the of the topics of the questions We're gonna try and tackle so great great. Yeah Sorry, I already emailed them to me. I just yeah, yeah, okay But yeah, so Bilal Let's see here Bilal Bajwa from Minneapolis, Minnesota was asking Has anybody used get PMP group for a site and SharePoint to get all groups in a SharePoint site? It returns a lot of garbage any idea how to filter So I took that as homework And the post that I pushed out to my blog SharePoint interface comm last night Called a quick look at the get PMP command and its operation. I wouldn't say that's rocket science but I know Probably a lot of them is understanding or at least some of the misunderstanding around Data that's returned by PowerShell Put into context by remembering that PowerShell is an object-oriented scripting language That leverages the power of Microsoft net behind the scenes. So Many different power of net compels you sorry It's not a scripting language It's a scripting engine So in any case the PowerShell Which leverages dot net behind the scenes many of the different return values and variable assignments in PowerShell may look like scalar values, but They that scalar value you think you're seeing is probably just the tip of the iceberg On an object that might be returned. So we went through that PMP commandlet I ran it bunch of different screenshots He needed to know how to filter and that that's the part that thankfully does not rely on a whole bunch of object-oriented language So I included, you know, I did a couple filters on data that came back from my family's tenant the groups in there and We you know, hopefully it sums up what he needs And he's good. I haven't heard from him yet though. Not that I'm expecting We'll see Makes sense Totally totally I just shared the link in the chat here. So again the yeah, I think you and you I think you see seed him on the response or Spotted is on the Facebook. So we've got any Responses that he we should see that And how welcome this morning and we've also got Rob Long-time listener first-time participant And Rob's got a problem we'd control issue on a ceiling there, I know Hey, don't talk about Phyllis and Philip and Plato like that. They don't like it They have names Yep, all right. Well, hey, let's let's jump to question number two And so I like some of these kind of more straightforward more licensing discussions Feel free to expand on this Kathy asked the question currently using Microsoft Teams free for my small business. So as two people I really want the planner app, but can't see it. What paid subscription of Microsoft 365? Do I need to get planner in teams? e3 I Don't know if you can get it with I don't think you can get it with education anymore I think it's just e3 or e5 or a well sure about the a plan. I don't have it I don't know. I shouldn't say that. I'm just I'm just saying I previously before they changed a lot of that stuff around Edu didn't have access to it. I know that But I think it was going to a play I think even he won includes planner does that I Think so, yeah, there's a page for it. Yeah, we're all we're all hunting me Essentials business premium enterprise e1 3 4 5 Education e3 you has it. Yeah, so okay, so just about anything Yeah Anything but the free that's that's we're saying what's this new bookings tool? Oh You don't know about bookings. Oh, no No Yeah, a while being like what three hours now There is a join us. Um, it was replaced by staff hub Right Turned the other way around listen Joel if I know about it everybody in the world knows about it What is going on here today, my goodness, I showed up a few minutes late and there's like standing room. Oh me What's up everybody Not much You know stuff to see these friendly faces even yours Christian Yeah, even thank you You even even Mr. Bogue, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. They were complaining about I was being overtaken by the little shop of horrors, but I'm okay Oh Christian you haven't done housekeeping Which aspect of housekeeping t-shirts. Oh, that's right All right, let's show us your t-shirts folks and Neil keep your shirt on today. This is from my trip. Oh Nice peak nice. You just faded in your background You know it's just a beard How's got a look at a shirt Me take the costumers It's some breakfast over here yesterday. I had for lunch this thing here You do wear that shirt a lot Christian. I've worn it twice No repeat yeah Yeah, that's a dirty laundry pile. No, it was it was literally it was the t-shirt that was on the top of the clean laundry pile But I've not stacked up in the foot closet yet. So you'll for what it's worth. I like your background here more than your Yeah, very much so really Just a window. I'm just some inspirational. That's me. Yeah, you've got some nice Stuff on the wall there somebody in the family do that No, we actually bought them. Oh, okay lovely type place, but they're pretty cool We have these things all over the all over the house is this everywhere you look there's like Spiritual I'm for like if I look here for example, hopefully a plugs don't fall out my screens, but This isn't gonna be bad hang on I do like how the clock is up above the window behind you Learn about about time. We have all these things all over the house like inspiration Things like that out there. Oh cool Yeah, it's fun. Do you something to look at the list your spirits when you're in a poor meeting? Not that I've ever happens All right, hey question number three Khaled asks so it says I have windows 764 bit Suddenly, I can't use teams anymore Why are you on Windows 7? Yeah, I like I like adding the occasional just there's no no don't ask anybody asked like well for follow-up They're like there was no other information So it's it's a sometimes it's fun just to have that as a discussion point like what could possibly be happening Hence the brief answers. Yes Sorry Khaled yeah, yeah need Johnny five need more input Well, the first thing is, you know Upgrade off of windows. I you I thought I was I thought I was the one to use the obscure movie references Come on What reference was that I missed that? Oh, come on. What was it? Sorry, so you Johnny five Johnny five Johnny five. He's alive Christian looks like he doesn't know what we're talking about look at this But again, if I know everybody knows short circuit Oh Didn't realize we were going back to junior high that's a standard nerd movie a stand. Oh, no, it's not That's how you rationalize it Mike Yeah, it just wasn't that into that movie at the time so I am familiar with the plot in General period. I think I saw in the theater And that was last time I've not seen it since Two buckets of popcorn Yep, potentially. Yes So I have a I have a question. Yeah, actually I have kind of a statement slash question anybody see this announcement about the ability to trigger flows from teams So myself Yeah, I came out came out last week They actually you you can trigger a flow Inside of flows From any message from teams. That's cool. Yeah, you're looking for key words. You're looking for regex You're looking whatever you can trigger a flow So it's really kind of cool if you think about it if anybody's worked with IOT or work with with flows are all being able to set up a workflow off, you know, or so our Turn on a light something, you know Whatever based off of a message that comes across in teams. That's pretty cool Definitely That was cool. Hey, we've got a couple couple comments from Eric Silver who who made a comment says about the planner He says you can use Microsoft 365 business basic So it's targeted to less than 300 users So that's That's an option as well Don't have to have the E series. So I think we said it's it's it's in a number of places Yeah, so essentially just not the free you've got to be paying for something somewhere to get the planner out The other thing he mentioned is says that I didn't realize you can still get the upgrade from seven to ten They've not Microsoft's not disabled it He says if you have a valid product key for Windows 7 you should be able to get that free upgrade So I I thought that was gone. I was gonna mention that but it's like credits for hybrid hybrids Cars, you know, you think they're gone, but they still keep popping up Just saying Wow, what an obscure reference that was You know your message about team makes me think as well like How how many flows in the future will be connected to teams like I I think it's going to be interesting Idea Answer all of what we do is going to be front-ended by it by teams Well, especially if you think about it if you do flows with SharePoint You know because you can you can use flows with SharePoint and knock off, you know workflows for documents or whatever or processes or List yeah, whatever Yeah, I was just thinking I As far as IOT I don't have my house set up. I know there's some people that have them with their lights It would be kind of cool for like right in front of me if I have it automatically set up And I've got the smart light bulbs. I've not installed them That I've picked them up at different conferences and stuff as speaker gifts that type of thing But to flicker when it's getting like five minutes to the end of a meeting or something would that not be cool Look at that. It was your schedule and then flicker the lights at the fire. Are you seeing it? Are you seeing the traffic light? That is freaking awesome. Alexa turn on the traffic light So I will tell you it's good and bad There's a number of modules you can plug in. I made the mistake of setting them up in the razor suite of applications for gaming peripherals and I was down in the game room and then suddenly the lights start going Bonkers based on what's happening in the game. My son's like, can you stop doing that? I'm like, I don't even know how it's happening first so Got to find that But yeah, synced gaming software and all sorts of other things what you're suggesting Christian is Definitely within the realm of possibility right now Why don't a lot of people have and so I like my my office is in my basement and So something my wife is it complaints like I don't know what I could come down If I need your for help for something in the middle of the day of what's going on She'll like I hear her calling for me I'm in the middle of the call and she'll come down and she'll open up the door fuming like why haven't you answered me and You know and start talking to me and I'll just ignore her because I'm Focusing on whatever and then she kind of like oh I got got the hint and I want to do the color light set up in the stairwell Down to the basement so she knows red don't come down. He's recording or whatever and Incredibly easy to do incredibly easy to do especially if you can trigger off with something like teams You could trigger when you get an actual start a teams meeting You know because a message comes across that you started a teams meeting you can trigger a light change But I do that now is I have a light outside of my office door And I do I just have a Wi-Fi remote I just have a little remote that I push here on my desk and I change the color of it So my kids know not to come, you know banging on my door or anything. Yeah There's a third party that has a light system where you can have a little light on your laptop That's right. Yeah, I mean the base yeah team status Yep Yeah, like like Rob was just showing I'm sure his traffic light it probably works effectively Yeah, traffic light would bolt to a laptop real well We're not a backpack or something Helmet have a fixed that weld that onto a spot weld that onto a helmet there Rob traffic man When we start traveling again, and we're on an airplane. I just not sure it'll fit in the overhead compartment But Rob, I thought those street lights like Wade like, you know 200 some pounds or something like that. They're like massive Um, they're they're massive But they don't weigh quite 200 pounds like this like part of it is people don't realize how big they are Yeah, Rick I'm just wondering how unsafe that is Rob for you to disconnect that from that intersection near your house Nobody's supposed to know If you hear the screeching in the background, I'll know why it's not like taking a stop sign Here's the thing right like so what I this was I needed I really did this this as a purpose and It's to remind me that the things that I can do doesn't mean that they're things I should do and I was looking for stock art for it And I was in one of those moods you guys ever get into that mood like I'm just solving this problem I don't care and I couldn't find the stock art and I'm like I wonder if anybody Sells stop lights right and see search on on eBay and and oh my gosh, there's a guy selling stop lights on eBay So he got with a five finger discount Just don't ask those questions and then the guy pulls up and opens up his trunk. It's a lot the back of a truck. Yeah This one actually does have a full back story, but yes But you can get anything on Amazon eBay or Etsy one of those three Like it doesn't matter what it is Yeah Well as in as a music collector, you know, that was fantastic like when eBay started it was fantastic for a short period of time and then suddenly I Mean the positive side of that you could find anything the downside of that is you can't sell like the value of everything that you Own that used to be rare and hard to find and valuable just what the toilet. Yeah, like driving a car off the lot Yep All right. Hey question number four Elaine asks a question. We've seen some variations of this. Yeah, the join button is missing from my neighbor's Microsoft Teams It's not my Microsoft Teams. It's it's my neighbor. It's my friend asking for my asking for a friend Yeah, I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling it but doesn't still doesn't show I've tried using a smartphone that works there. So trying in the Microsoft Teams browser version It doesn't let her log in. I've tried logging in or account my PC and it works Also, the browser version works too. Everything works on my end except her PC. So it's not working on her PC She tried a different browser on that PC And that work private browser. It's just the app Yeah, that's Well, obviously you've narrowed down specifically to that PC Yeah So what else is special about it, you know, I mean, I would try an in browser I would try a private window first to try and not have any cash involved at all Just see what happens, you know And if that still produces the same results as she tried, I mean God forbid you try to switch over and use Chrome or Firefox or Opera or something You know other than Edge, I don't know if she even say what browser was being used. No, no, okay. Well You see you try something different you know So the client works but the web browser does not Is that the client? Or I think that's what I heard She's tried logging in on the other PC and the browser version it all works. It just doesn't work on her PC Yeah, her profile works. So the friend is able to log into her account and everything works properly And it's just not working on her PC. I would say sign out sign back in Yeah, she may not even be aware that it's account dependent as we all know very well from the probably 40,000 IDs we've got You've got yours down to 40,000 I don't really care. It's a last pass problem. Not me Yeah, but I would sign out the other thing is uh go to internet explore everybody boo now Um, go to internet explore and go clear your uh cash, uh your cookies So pop any authentication that may be it's just odd You'd see it, you know Having the problem with her profile on her PC with both the desktop application as well as the browser version Well, she tried installing installing My understanding though is that the desktop app actually uses Uh browser frames inside of it. Am I wrong on that? My that's that was my understanding is it's not a total isolated application. It actually uses from browser Browsers inside because it has to be able to when you click tabs Because tabs contain websites and things like that. Well, I know it did on tabs for a bunch of apps I don't know that the core product does though. We I thought that I was under that understanding because it needed that ability to connect um Because it's it's an html5 interface Um, but I I could be wrong. Yeah, I thought this this kind of scenario has happened to me in the past where Someone from an external organization schedules a meeting with me through teams And I have to actually open the meeting information and click the embedded link in the message I don't get the join button But the link to the meeting is still in the actual invite Yeah, so maybe that's the possible work around in this case I don't know but looking at the screenshots on the actual link to the Tech community thing it looks more like a meet me now scenario Meeting running like a ad hoc versus a scheduled meeting Oh Christian you didn't include the screenshots Hell's got something. What's up, pal? Nothing, right? Oh, I thought you were gonna say something. I'll laugh at us No, he smiles in the background, but I did provide the link so that you have access to the screen Uh, no microsoft chat specialist. I don't want to speak to you Uh, all right, let's see here. Do we want to move on to number five? I don't know that we've got much more to really add on We can do that It's a longer one folks if uh, but uh, so so follow along So as we have this from philip says we have streams secured with conditional access So location based and teams without conditional access This turns the sign in and functionality of teams into a total mess For example, someone has a conversation in teams where streams the content has been posted If you called the user for a teams call on your mobile They can answer the call But they are then hit with a raft of security warnings and pop-ups about restricted content As some users are unable to even get to the call behind all the garbage that the app throws at them I logged this twice with microsoft and it was a struggle getting them to understand the problem And both times the end result was being told. That's just how it is The app isn't very good There's a distinction too between people to understand between what the product team understands is happening And and support And it's another reason why it's important to yes go log a problem and support But also to go out to like the microsoft tech community If it's a feature that add on user voice and do some research around that I wish that the All of those things were more aligned and sometimes you have product team members that are very active in that But support is very much separate from What the product team is aware of and uh is often, you know, the the wrong people to Be sharing this kind of information with although it's a necessary step to log it from a support standpoint So the remainder of this So is anyone else had to deal with this or know how I can implement something that doesn't just result in a load of error pop-ups Uh tldr teams function and and login on mobile app is completely wrecked If the user has content within a teams chat from secured service Removing the conditional access from stream is not acceptable as it is there for specific reason If a ca is removed and the teams app works fine Yeah All right, so I don't know Go ahead. I don't say any so it talks about security warnings and pop-up. So it sounds like this is actually A by design feature that just doesn't need to a great user experience. I was going to say push it back to your admin Um, you know, I I suspect you could whitelist applications or destinations or Set a list of exclusions um The controls are granular enough to do that um In the admin console aren't they? Well, the trick is is if you want some of stream restricted but not all of stream restricted and Teams is going out to make the calls to stream because that's where it's throwing its recordings Right. It's trying to figure out. Hey, can I do can I do a recording of this? Is this being recorded? Is anybody watching? And so the app internally is making a dozen calls or two dozen Because it's teams because it's got to do things twice um I would think there would still be a way though teams passes headers um, I assume request headers that identify And I wonder even if that garbage that they're talking about actually is a symptom The garbage probably would tell you a little bit about what it's trying to say Is the problem send us your garbage? As because that sounds pictures and Logs and whatnot some of these a lot of these problems that we get That we can't really answer Are as any viewer has probably noticed the very first thing we ask is we need more information A lot of times we don't have anything to work from Well, that's the the benefit of asking a question and as part of the live stream if they're participating versus Us and going pulling from these the various locations, but you know, they're almost It's almost compelling enough for people to deal with us To ask that question almost. Yes You're asking a lot Yeah, but I think somebody said it a second ago is that the You know like the conditional access and and some of the experiences by design If somebody's trying to access something and there it's the the recording Was from you know has conditional access and somebody that's outside of that permission group Then that is that that makes sense. The difficulty is that when you have the system if you have You know one person who's within the boundaries of the conditional access one that's outside And they're trying to collaborate and if they're trying to capture or recording if that's limiting or or or wrecking that experience Because of the default settings of that conditional access. Obviously there needs to be some intelligence to know that Hey by default I'm within this restricted area Anything that I'm going to capture and record if I've got the right permissions. It's fine But if I'm going to go in a meeting with You know half of you that are here in this call That don't have access to that That it needs to adjust those settings and at least ask me to confirm Hey, you realize that this recording will be capturing a place that half of the people that participated now won't be able to access that recording So there needs to be some dynamic adjustment to those permissions or at least give me the option To to know that hey three of the people that I've invited in Won't have access to this. Do I want to grant them? access to that or Or move forward knowing that they won't get access to the recording Anyway, I just think there needs to be You know some more, you know automation that happens in those mixed permissions scenarios Automagically Automagically I guess use a voice go and ask the question that Yeah People I think assume that microsoft is a single monolithic organization where everybody has line of sight to everyone else Like going to a foreign country and somebody goes, oh, you're from america. Do you know? Yeah I think Microsoft is a bubble organization. What's that show? um For lack of a better way of explaining it I'm not much of a sports enthusiast, but There's a football analogy where you have uh american football or football Let's say american football american football you have your first ring And then there's those who you know, there's the special teams Support is special teams, you know, they're They're coming out You know the best special years are working on the product Who are working with the pms who have the product designs in mind And then the support in a lot of ways they kind of feel like we're stuck with supporting this thing And they're on to the next version, you know, the engineers are now focused You know, where where's this going? What are the new features? And then you've got support who now is uh Dealing with the situation that was was was created prior So at the bottom of the hill. Yeah, basically a fall out They try and address as many bugs as they can that that that that first team Uh the first string you could say um And then it goes into support sustainability or you know, there's the those who Are trying to address those bugs, but you've got the the first string who's really focused on what's next Um, so they try and reduce the amount of bug count as much as they can But if you've got something that the truly is a bug Yeah support Even even within support Once you can identify it's a bug and it's something they can go and then fix If it's if it's something that was by design You know, they'll they'll end up closing it and that's where it gets moved to user voice where it's like hey We want it to behave like like xyz. Well, that's why if you Yeah, if you thoroughly document the scenario and say look like I I tried to describe it Uh, you know outline say hey this specific scenario of a mixed permissions You know meeting and the recording and access to that Outline that that's the thing that you would want to go and do a little research on in the tech community and out on user voice Uh to ensure if there's something out there that already addresses that scenario if not log it at it and uh And share that out through the various social channels and get Community people to go and upvote that thing and talk about it. So microsoft You just need a handful of responses. We'll get in there and and respond to it And it may be that you know, they ask some clarifying questions and it could be something that They're aware of and it's on the the roadmap Or In this scenario could be that they're unaware This is an issue that it's it's working as they designed it in the scenarios That they were familiar with that they kind of uh envisioned and that corner case You know, you're you're using it in a way that may not have been intended Yeah Which could be the way that everyone else on the planet uses it. It just wasn't the way they designed it right right Well, that's and that's that's a something that you've got to be careful with any any Software development team product development team is that you do you get into this kind of this closed You know this closed off world you have your perspective and it's why Good product teams are constantly doing that community outreach and and trying to get more data And they're iterating on their their ideas microsoft does a good job at that, but one of the What are their their methods of collecting information is through Community discussion and tech community out in user voice. So you've got a log it there Or invite microsoft people along Like neil. Sorry. I didn't mean to put you into the token microsoft person category But as our token microsoft person that's on this recording you We have to refer to you as the token microsoft. That's okay. I can take it By the way, i'm i'm two weeks from my 15th year anniversary of microsoft Congratulations on the yesterday. I was meeting joel at tech ready to Six I didn't congrats. Yeah, when did you start there? So, yeah, when did you start 15 years ago christian? Like what era was that what was going on? Where did you join and it was 15th september 2005? So sharepoint 2003 was the the big thing that then as such it was And we were in planning for 2007. So that's when I got dragged into a bunch of product group stuff and Things with uh, yeah, she happened 2007. It was pretty much kind of on the horizon Were you in the field or were you in redman? I was microsoft's first ever sharepoint pfe And based out of the uk Yeah, then i moved then i moved to engineering in 2010 um Looking for dave walsh's organization Dave's awesome. I still see his biking posts and stuff. Yeah, yeah, and then I worked in sharepoint cat after 2013 working for luka Which is awesome experience stayed there then fast track for sharepoint and one drive and now i'm in azure engineering That's right. You walked away from i did after 20 years of sharepoint. I'd finally had enough Walked how about run? Uh, all right, here's the sharepoint question uh six dan asks Uh, I was wondering if anyone could help I'm currently replacing my classic site with the modern sharepoint And want to replace my classic root site with my modern site However, when I go to do this in admin, there is no replace site option Power shell is your friend Yeah, I just included a link. It's also worth noting that I believe in order to replace the the root site A successful health check is necessary. That's either implemented or in the process of being implemented Um, so if you don't have the page diagnostics tool get a copy of that Um, they want to make sure you're not going to swap something in that's going to Turn the site into mush and everybody else in the tenant unhappy replacing the root site is a Pretty common procedure these days, especially everybody going to modern which is much much better Cricket cricket cricket. No, sorry. I well, I don't know if anybody else has anything to add to that I just realized that uh, the person asking question seven. That's pretty much the same question um The the problem with the uh teams the web app versus desktop Well, no, no, no, this is slightly different They can get to it if you look at the screenshot It literally says teams is disabled um For let's see They get an error message without a code actually they get a um correlation idea of some sort And uh microsoft teams is disabled So this tells me The the message they sent is from A phone so Either it's disabled for mobile devices or It's something bigger But I would seek admin help on this one because I got a feeling it has to do with configuration settings I guess I should should state the question. So for point of reference for everyone, but this one comes from see stance ski Can log into microsoft teams web app, but not desktop or ios I can log into teams in the web app, but not on the ios or desktop app both apps Ask for authentication the return a message that teams is disabled the account I'm using associated with the gmail email address And has no uh and has no admin i or the company inviting me to the teams can access That that's a that's a different issue Yeah, the gmail thing is a different issue But I would talk to the admin who Um of the tenant you're trying to get access to because this looks like some sort of restriction on long ends um If you look at your I was going to say if you look at that uh that error code It's a ad sts. It's azure active directory Uh token service So it looks like external users Are prohibited from joining teams but yeah That he said he can get to it he can log into the teams on a web app So um, um, I don't think it's that broad but more like conditional access policy Maybe it's um I know at least for a mobile device if um, it's not a managed device. They may not allow it There's a possibility on Yeah, there's some weird behavior that happens when um A few things that happen that are over on the admin that tenant admin experience if you're not allowing external Uh users if you somebody doesn't have the right license type Um, if a specific domain like somebody's gone in and blocked gmail accounts period across the board um can can Experience some odd behavior. It doesn't just Send you an error message that tells you this is exactly what's happening If it's a full moon or a thursday right Also known problems A lot of known problems there. It's the the the title moon. Yes and um You know sunspots a lot of causes of solar flares definitely solar flares. Yeah, thank you uh, but yeah, so check with your admin and uh, I think Determine if it's one of those Kind of easy things. It's not not about your email admin. It's about your tenant admin Take two aspirin and call them in the morning. Yes Uh, all right, uh number eight, uh question from uh Depwins d e p w n z Um about a reply on desktop app. It says may I know why it's 2020 and replying to a comment is still not of it. I'm not a feature on the desktop app Why are things like video background made the cut but not replying to a comment on desktop? This is 2020 and literally every single communication app can do that But not a chat app geared towards enterprises I can make a Agreed Depwins Yeah, I I can't argue against it. Just Maybe not enough people See it the way you do or rely on that type of uh ability I don't know what's been on the roadmap what they've they've talked about. So they've definitely I've I've seen some Uh, some you know really nice Uh features around the the chat and the threaded discussion experiences Where uh, I know that they want to fix this issue. I just have no idea where it is Can you can you clarify? I mean, maybe maybe it's It's intuitive to you guys what what app are they talking about? I mean it says desktop app. Which desktop oh teams and teams Yeah What's that Neil you can reply to a comment in the mobile app in a chatting So not a chat though is in a team that might be different Yeah, and the team right and it's and part of the problem people don't know we're talking about it Part of the problem is you know, it is responding in a threaded manner chat operates differently than The threaded discussion. It's meant to be chat is meant to be flat Um, and and so while it can have a reference point It'll still be in in the order if you want to be able to see the specific response to a A discussion thread that's in the channel discussions and you can do that the problem that I have there is that it's been You know the ui is you know, that's constant state of update Uh part of the evergreen model But you know needing to be indented needing it to be clear that when you're Responding you're not starting a new discussion a new You know bubble of of uh of conversation um But just to clarify there's two different things. There's the the chat and the Discussions in a channel are two different things Yeah Yeah, and I'd say as well it It seems like that's an area that needs to evolve. I think we're all asking for more threaded discussions in chat Whether it's in channels or whether it's in In just chat itself But it's a it's a roadmap question. You know, what what how's that going to improve over time? Anybody got road map dot office dot com open? So this is something that has been discussed Again, if somebody's got roadmap open can can do a little investigation there I'll get it open in a second I'm just i'm already at work on the next question, which has already been answered about 30 minutes ago So how much how much work went into that shown? Um none by me Okay, just checking Just saying Yeah, it was answered. Um, let me get roadmap open I feel like setting up a big screen television that always has roadmap on it Seems like i'm always out here Of course, we'd have to add some led lights and blink to it I thought about I had this giant monitor sitting on the floor floor over here Which is one that I had for shows and the you know, remember those things that we used to go to and uh Yeah, oh christ, what are you referring to? I know and I so I thought about that is like what you know I could just actually hook it up to my other screen and just have that Have that uh the the roadmap site or something just up there live in real time, but Yeah, we've got an extra I could take down my whiteboard and put up uh Now i'm thinking i've got ideas that my wife will next right away Talking to my shows though very briefly he's going to brunson I had to cancel It was not my choice They won't let me back into my country. What do you want me to do? Uh, that's right Well, you have to talk to you about that christian because I know you're handling a lot of the virtual stuff I talked to yeah, I'm actually I so I've got a I've got a call this afternoon and so I'm still still have space for I need to lock down the first version of the schedule for that But we actually have two virtual tracks. So I think I've got space obviously it's the You know the first spots are held for those People that were planning to be there the speakers that can no longer be there um, but uh I so I we've got the call it might be filled but we might have a spot that's being held for you because you're not there Oh, okay. I got you. That's why I need to verify So we we thought about adding a whole another track and then reaching out to a few folks in community But I think that there's enough of the people that were supposed to be there speaking that it's It's already going to be filled So makes sense. I'm actually looking for or it'll just kind of a call that's out there for anybody I'm looking for people that are interested being moderators for those Uh, those sections. So I'm looking for morning and afternoon moderators. So essentially three hour spots And we're just going to have we're going to use meetings rather than live Events and uh, yeah, so Um, Mike, uh, you know, let's let's chat afterwards. You know, because definitely looking for Help with moderators. So I'm gonna there's a I'm sure everybody here on this call knows but there's a call for speakers Uh group add on facebook. So uh later today, I was going to go and post For those moderators. So Yeah, send me a link By defense, I'd love to just pitch the fact that I've got a We got the party this them on thursday. It's it. Sean Oh, no, Sean. Sean knows nothing about it. He's useless here. Joel in general. Yeah So, um I was speaking it starts with we're launching a virtual community, you know with covet There's everything's all virtual anyway, but uh, and a lot of the user groups seems like a lot of them have been on hold And then there's a number of people who just don't have user groups In fact about a third of the people who've signed up so far say they have no access to Local group user groups. Wow Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. So basically the intention is to create this global virtual user group focused on a number of different technologies in the microsoft 365 stack And uh to to get enough momentum to get some energy going around this community We're starting with a party instead of starting with a session and we're starting with a party And the party to launch this m 365 virtual community. Yeah. Yeah is It's planned for it's noon pacific Which would be one mountain two central three eastern And seven utc 7 p.m utc were to kick off this global virtual community launch party and we've got Lightning talks the christian can tell us about we've got three different rooms with music and dancing Where we're gonna have Keith richie music in one room joey snow music in another room and martin viscer whose brother is a A twitch streamer who does video dj. He's in a room and then we got trivia from martin viscer We've got some cosplay so people will be able to dress up and kind of do fun stuff dress up as your favorite microsoft office product and we've got Jeff wellinger who's doing together mode in teams kind of just a chat And we've got sharon weaver in alt space vr Hosting the cards against humanity stuff as well as a chat room and vr Very cool. Missing anything No, it should be fun. I just to plug the the the area that i'm doing so it's uh, in fact, I will Later today also have a schedule a first schedule put together, but we've got recordings or We have live sessions and recordings, but we have teeper. We have dan home We've got bill bear. Did naomi ever respond? I don't think so Uh And uh, but there's a number of microsoft people as well as mvps and rds that are going to be uh doing Some live some pre-recorded, but that's a three hour block of essentially 10 to 15 minute Topics and so i'm going to publish out that schedule You know the first version of that fill in the couple of the slots and anybody else I mean, you know if there's we'll do kind of an am a format If there's filler time in between any of those plan times Uh where people can jump in so uh, i'm going to be recording that that entire block Because I think it will have some great content We'll be able to chop up into videos and and produce for people to follow up on later anyway I love it a party with a session hangover It's it's like it's funny when I when I put first put the registration out there There's people who are saying I'm interested in the community not interested in the party and I'm like, what's what's wrong with the party? Why would you not be interested in the party? It's like uh because it's not educational enough Well, let's let's have at least one educational track for the people who it's if it's during their business hours They can still justify it. Um, yeah, there you go But what's kind of fun is we're doing a share point spaces virtual lobbies so your ability to bounce between the rooms Um and be able to check out what's happening in different places Yes, we fun It's m 365 vc.com Is the the website and to go and register I'll I'll put it in the chat too Excellent Thanks for the plug And let's see we've got uh, so we've got uh about six minutes left. Let's uh get through one Maybe two more questions here. So number nine. Uh, is that the one you were talking about Sean? Uh, yes, okay So jason says uh, since i'm hoping someone in the the brains trust can help me out With an administrative control question working with a local subsidiary of a global organization Who are the trail site of teams calling? Is there a way to scope access within the teams admin center to regional or active directory org based groups? For example, uh local support with teams service admin role can be contained to attendants Cues resource accounts number ranges and uses in the region So they're able to change say auto attendants for another division or country I'm out Know what you know know what you don't know and don't confuse the two So so let me say one thing about this like the admin center It does have some trimming based on um Based on how you divide up groups. So like you could say these are share point administrators These are exchange administrators and so on and even within teams. There's um There are a number of different roles, but those roles are not designed to be region based so much I think you'd have to create Some some of your own kind of design where you're saying Because if it's all in one tenant and you're saying Europe Middle east Versus americas and you're trying to say these people should only manage these you're you're almost creating a layer that It sounds like the geo layl layer, you know where you're trying to do something geo wise Can you use dynamic groups? You could create a group, but in terms of trimming the ui and the teams admin center That's where I think you're gonna have a little bit Yeah, you know, I wonder if you could use labels as an example to say um these These teams are managed by these groups these people, but it'd be more like saying their their admins, you know, but Yeah, I mean the the The other side of that maybe if you have people that uh, you know in there that are set up already established 80 groups for each of those regions and you can always label, you know give Create admin roles where it's they're assigned to that region, but you're right They just be an admin they'd have the ability to do that across multiple regions But that they're only responsible for you maybe have an sla in place for the users within that region um and so it would be more of a Community organization, you know an admin management of who owns what? I don't know that you can limit the controls like you can only do things take action on users within this assigned region Yeah, it seems like the oh you kind of thing it's like If they're in this domain then you can manage them, but when it comes to the tenant if it's one tenant You're not going to get that same level in the admin ui Is in terms of these are the teams you can manage and so we're going to give you admin on this set of teams that are That have this label then the label being europe or emia or something but but in terms of trimming the ui or Something like that. It's like you can do some stuff in ad, but it doesn't seem like the tenant is designed to be geo Based well, and that's why a lot of organizations that have multiple tenants for that reason They want to have that firewall between those geographies and so they'll have multiple tenants And that's where So for the for the large enterprises where a lot of their request the multi tenant capabilities Come from wanted to have that rolled up experience and microsoft is is doing a lot There's a lot that's on the roadmap towards that multi tenancy It's exactly this scenario for a large enterprise. There are valid reasons where you might have a A german tenant And then you know and then the u.s. Tenant And so if you have regions that have very different you know Compliance and governance rules in place You may have separate tenants to help manage that It's much more difficult to do to manage some of that in a single tenant I've been I've been in some organizations where we follow a follow the sun kind of support model Where it when when europe is is live they're supporting the the tenant and then As the sun those guys go home We're then taking over in the americas and supporting even european users who may still Be up and doing things later in the day But basically that being able to get that 24 7 follow the sun model It's great to be able to leverage everybody and say who's primary who's secondary or who's on call Based on the time of day So you get you get better coverage if you're to say europe's only They're they're primary and there is no secondary. They just have to support 24 7 for their part of the tenant or the set of Calling plans or whatever you're kind of referring to it's it's It ends up being a trust question You know if they're if they're truly different parts of the business and you don't trust Those folks and that's where you want to cut them off That's as well where security boundaries tenant is definitely one of the boundaries But there are those geo I know sharepoint has a number of geo kind of specifics to where you can say These sites are in this specific geo location, but when you start talking about teams I don't know that we have all the same Kind of abilities to split it by geo right sounds like a governance problem Yeah, yeah Make the humans work Yep Well gentlemen, hey, we're at the we're at the top of the hour So really appreciate everybody for joining in and thanks for everybody that Asked questions and the handful of people that participated one of the live streams We'll be back again at 6 p.m. Pacific for the apac Side of this and this is episode 20 23 23 So yeah plug it away here so and of course you can always go out to To youtube and search for the microsoft community office hours. It's out on the collab talk youtube page You can go to my blog at buckley planet and look at all the office hours You can find every one of the past recording and this is our 23rd week in a row of recording these And if you've not seen these we for the we take the two one hour sessions Combine them into a video. It's out on youtube I then provide a complete list of every topic that we cover With a link to this the timestamp so you can jump to That specific discussion You don't have to wade through two hours of video to find that important dialogue Although we encourage you to do that because Um, there's always hidden gems within it You know, you know, I don't even believe it when I say it guys. Sorry But it doesn't he doesn't timestamp the yeah, he doesn't timestamp the jokes I do some of them. Are you kidding? Oh, yeah, you have to have wouldn't you have to have jokes to timestamp them? I mean Generally Eric every time you're on it's a joke stop talking about Sean like that No, it's like for example, I think I have on here like I have what we talked about uh last one I said at the 12 36 we talked about this week's t-shirts last week um And uh, there's once in a while. There's something here. Oh, I said like at the one hour six minute 56 second Sean does not have an update on the maze issue Uh, but we talked a couple minutes. I know that's right Uh, yeah, so it it's fun. I do I do I think I've uh ridiculed everybody a little bit Yeah, you're That's right. That's right. So All right. Well gents. Thanks a lot for joining to everybody and uh, we'll be back in a few hours for round two And in the meantime, you can drop us if you have questions that you'd like us to address Live or offline. We do it all week long. You can email us at office hours at collab talk.com and uh Thanks everybody and we'll talk to you soon. Take care guys Everybody I was Yeah, all right. Let me uh, let me go live and get that all set up Oh even on yeah, it it We'll see how that shows up within the recording. So You know in a second Hi there Let me see here. Oh, I'm good. I'm actually in the right I'm actually in the right tenant I am so thrilled Oh, this is becoming such a mess That's it. Well, let's uh, we'll kick things off officially since uh, we we have a quorum here Uh, but this is the uh part two I'm just getting some echo back. Yeah, somebody who's uh, got their sound on their laptop. That's top broadcasting Al Is that you hell I just went away on it This is the microsoft security office hours and uh, this is a AM a format. So ask us anything Not me. I guess ask aua format and uh, yeah, so this is the part two Of episode 23 And uh, we have, uh, 11 questions that were on that list. Anything new pop up during the day? Anybody wants to address? I didn't have a chance to go out there, but now I gotta open my email. Oh, man See, I had everything shut down. I was playing some nice games Here I go. Everything up again We've got we had a cast of thousands this morning as well. That was uh, pretty amazing We had riz who never shows up for the evening sessions Because he needs his 12 hours minimum of beauty sleep Uh, we had joel olsen join us. That was that was the first time joel joined. No Was it the second time? Yeah, okay At least I seem to recall Yeah The joel we had neil who might show up this evening Um, unless something caught on fire and um And we had uh, that's right. Um rob og joined So And so it's great and we have of course, uh, mike back We really get to talk about your trip that in detail, but it's a beautiful beautiful part of the world I really like the black hills and all that area around Mount rushmore. It's just it's gorgeous. It is. It's uh, it's extremely, uh, you know Beautiful country in terms of I loved it because of the free range the wild animals. I mean literally You're driving down a road and you have these animals that just come down to the road elk and bison and What have you and they're just They're they're actually, you know, you don't bother them. They don't bother you kind of a thing They have signs up all over the place saying you don't want to you know Basically, you don't want to upset the animals with the epic, please Yeah, but uh They were just they were phenomenal. I mean, uh, it was it was quite an experience now the scenery and everything That's awesome, too. But I I think I enjoyed the animals more than I enjoyed the scenery. So And I I I avoided I avoided the people as much as possible People suck Yeah, well So while I was telling about like about a month ago and I drove my daughter out From Minneapolis out to Salt Lake City and we passed through we were in the middle of the night, you know through And we didn't get to visit rushmore We stayed the night just past that and then We we kind of did a step ladder down through wyoming took some back roads It's the beautiful thing about the the summertime is you know, it's uh, all the roads are open And uh, we did run into one thunderstorm that uh scared the crap out of us I mean, uh, we were so the the speed limit was 75 or 80 Uh, we were doing about 25 30. I couldn't see anything I could see the headlights of the car in front of me and I was just being very careful I'm glad I slowed down But then everybody just kind of we came to an exit went off and there were a couple dozen cars People crowding underneath the overpass Bunch of bikers I've just uh, no motorcycles, but I mean they would have just been screwed Because it was rain. It was so thick. I mean it was just uh, my first thought was Well, thankfully we're in a flat area because flash floods You know, but it was uh, I mean it went past pretty quick and Opened up and was beautiful after that But as you said, Mike, we stopped a number of times because we had wild and uh, as well as Uh, uh, regular animals. We had a couple times where we had cows and sheep that went out along the roads and Yeah, just a beautiful area. I I love road trips in general. Yep So do I and going from the midwest where I'm at and heading west like that There's really nothing to see Uh, when you and I apologize anybody lives in South Dakota But you really don't have a lot to see when you get into your states and most of Wyoming, right Right, right. And there's a lot of cows. There's a lot of cornfields. There's a lot of windmills And there's a lot of sunflowers, which is really cool But it is probably the most boring seven hours of driving I've I've done in a very long time You know people would always complain I mean as a kid we did trips from growing up in the San Francisco Bay Area and go visit family in Idaho and Utah And driving all around and and people can talk about how boring like northern Nevada is Northern Nevada is gorgeous. Yeah, you come up over the ridge of the hill. I mean, it's high desert And where you see the highway stretch out in front of you and up and over a mountain And it then takes you an hour and a half to cross that span. I mean, it's just amazing Uh, again, I like road trips, but it's beautiful, but I you're right when you get out Out into parts of the Midwest where there you see nothing Well, there's the middle of Nevada at least used to be that way Well, you really had nothing to see in Reno, right? And I've got the middle of well out where area 51 and that that area pretty much is I mean you can go for miles without seeing an offense post No mile markers No advertising signs great place to bury a body I saw I saw advertising every like 10 feet And if you're familiar with wall drug But they like, you know half their advertising budgets spent on billboards Well, let's uh, let's jump in with uh, well any any follow-ups to any of the questions from this morning We didn't have any tasks no homework from that one. No, I uh, I just had a follow-up from the uh comment I made about flow And as I said to you guys is that There is a uh an event happening in microsoft at the reactor in redmond Where uh, james, uh Liao Liao John John. I'm sorry. John Lou. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't want to put your name, but I did And I've heard him speak before about flow and I thought he was great You guys backed it up and said that you had as well and uh, he's actually doing a Learn flow learn your first floor and it flow in an hour So I that's it's really cool to watch something like that and see how see how you know the experts do it So Yep. Yeah, I signed up for that. I saw your face on there on the meetup as well Yeah, and yeah, that john's great. I've known john for many years through The old share point saturday and the uh, let's see the the share point conference australia share point conference new zealand And uh, and so he a lot of people that know him around that part of the world age pacific I think he's based out of uh, singapore and and so a lot of events around apac So and and for those who don't know, I mean I was talking about how teams Uh in teams now you can actually trigger a flow from any message in teams So if anybody's interested in that Uh, you have the ability that whenever a message is sent By someone or by an automated thing or it's received and it's it's actually brought into a team You can trigger a microsoft flow off of it Which could be anything from you know a workflow of a document to turning on a light bulb You name it. So it's pretty cool Pretty cool. And uh for those that are watching on the live stream as well If you have questions you'd like us to attempt to answer then you can Of course, uh post it on my page over on the Office 365 community page wherever you see the live stream You can also email us at office hours at collab talk.com And uh, this the the dual recordings will be combined to be added up to youtube And then also out on buckleyplanet.com and I'll go in and put the time stamps of every topic that we discuss And share that back out with the community pages as well. So When powers activate? Yes, that's right All right, uh, let's jump in so folks and I'll and I'll try to uh pay attention I was a little bit slow to respond to some of the questions from this mornings But uh, yeah, so feel free to ask any questions that are a comment And uh, all right, let's start with the number 10 for j I believe we did number 10. Did we do that? Um, no we did not We did not Okay All right, so uh, I'm getting an error message whenever I try to change a communication site to a hub site So a share point question It's newly created with a one terabyte quota currently have 30 terabyte available space my tenant I'm also having the same issue when using the GUI, but it does not show a specific error message And that error and obviously the image That's in that it's blurry so none of us can see it if you click on the link shon And go look at the page Oh, so you're saying it was a an image transcription problem I'm saying that my paste and then expanding the size of the image Didn't do it any favors and it got all blurry. I get that this site has exceeded its maximum file storage limits Um Now even though you let's see here You may have a ton of space But there may be a lot of um storage in the content database stored up used up by Deleted files if you're doing if you've got auditing turned on classic share point auditing that'll do it But that's I don't think that applies to online anymore Um, there are other things that can chew up storage Transparently, so I would go in and see what you can figure out might be chewing that up Because of share points saying this then you know And by the way folks chewing that up is a technical term that frequently Is that is that in the family same family is suck on that? Oh, jeez I guess suck on this whatever whatever Hey Yeah, you know one of the my assumptions here too, or I guess a question asked is Have you been able to uh, uh, make that change before was it working previously? Uh, I I'm gonna defer um to what you're looking up there Sean, but um You know if you've if you've had the ability to do something in the past and now it's not working um That is a slightly better problem than It's you've never been able to get it work Um, it could be a whole different set of problems Yeah Um, so i'm just looking at the Command let description which i'll post this and uh It's nothing wonderful, but I like that they uh Towards the bottom there are different notes. It said if the site doesn't exist this command let returns a file not found error So it's one of those with incredibly intuitive error messages So that what it's telling you, um Jay is I guess I wouldn't trust that um If you are confident that that meets the criteria To make a hub I would uh contact support and just see if you can get them to help or at least to give you some clarification on that because Based on what i'm seeing Here, I don't trust any kind of error message that's going to come back to you That might you know, that's just me and that's a gut feel But anybody else have any other experience or thoughts on that? You know No, I've got no I've got a share point I sure you All right, well, we'll uh, well, thanks for that Sean And we'll uh, yeah, there's Nothing like Starting it off kick it things off the whimper again. I know I know So 11 uh number 11, uh mizannet mizannet mizannet whatever Uh Asked well when I am in a teams meeting and go on mute I can't seem to use the microsoft speech recognition to open other apps and make notes while i'm still on a call But this works with browser version of teams Yes, and I have seen this tech this note before I I want to say that I saw it on the tech community that uh, somebody from microsoft posted that when the actual Teams full client is loaded. It takes control over the voice uh recognition And it won't allow it's kind of like a switch when you use your microphone That you say, you know, it takes exclusive control Well, it's like using any applications that's using your camera You can't open another application to also leverage that same camera, so it's just you can open it, but it just can't capture the device Right, and I will I will say this too is that it the same is true with power Because in powerpoint you can actually have the live captions And you can do that while you're actually creating the powerpoint. It'll It'll translate here what you're saying And when I had teams open and powerpoint powerpoint took exclusive control of that and wouldn't allow teams to Such grabby software So yeah, but there's uh, I don't know what's going on with uh, I mean There's there's not a hundred percent parity between the desktop application and and the browser I don't know if you'll ever have that. No, no because yeah, there's just there's nuances there But there's also I mean microsoft is putting more emphasis around the browser side of that and my response would be Don't use the desktop application Yeah, and I would agree that to a point because Many years ago. I'm gonna I'm gonna do a little history here Many years ago. Um, I don't know if people remember this But there's always been something with what they call a fat client and a thin client And it happened in my citrix days and it's happened in my vmware days Uh, and now it's happening in the microsoft So it's not it's it's just the way software is created. They no longer want to support The fat clients and because it's harder to support number one, but it's also harder to update It's harder to you know be able to integrate features as quickly as they can Is this a form of fat shaming? Sean, I spell it pH It's a coolness factor thing Yes, but it's less judgy Yeah judgy So I suppose so That's the story is pretty hot and tempting. Yeah Yeah, but no, I mean that that's a that's a great point though. It's um, so I think that Probably answers that. Yeah, at least in the business productivity space There are plenty of other spaces that fat clients are are still the way to go particularly Goes low level on the system Well, especially when you have the the web client that's based off of flash or it's based off of job Oh, no, no, no Silverlight, come on. Yeah silverlight I know I thought it up last week as well. So That's smart. I hate silverlight. It cost me At least months of my life Good friend of mine that was the vp at microsoft to uh owned that at one time one time and I was trying to get him on he went to adobe and he's moved on from there But he uh, he retired from from microsoft retired for a little while got bored went back to work But he was uh, he was over at adobe. I was like, hey, I've got to I want to interview I wanted to talk about You know, so the the partnership Between microsoft adobe and sap and kind of this other stuff I said and on my list of topics I wanted to talk to him about the history like tell us give us some of the background on silverlight and some of the decisions made there And he uh, yeah, he laughed at that. Yeah, he's Why do you want to talk about that? I said I just I think that will be the section of the interview that people will jump to Well, you've got you've got a couple of jokes to go around, right? You have silverlight You have vista which is like the hugest joke you could ever produce Um, and then you have you know things like microsoft bob Yeah Clippy wasn't a joke microsoft bob was a joke because that was bollimer's project Bollimer wanted that and that that it was just a Nightmare that was windows me that's when bob I'm sorry Windows 95. Hey, that was one of the most successful of all time. Come on the introduction of the registry. Yeah That's not me though. And he was no, that's not. This is original windows 95 Without an operating system Yeah and me and uh, Vista or just I can't believe they produced those and you know windows 8.8.0 and 8.1 are pretty close, but I just don't like when people are bringing up these these kind of failed products and then everybody dis is one of my favorites What? The zoom Baby, there you are So I got this one we'll see Now you can make fun of this one. That's okay. Is that really your favorite as soon as your favorite? Oh cool Put it away the kin You actually got one of those. I've never Christian is the last residents of much defunct equipment. I think I'm talking about I got my You're proving my point man. Yeah, this is this is my favorite. Okay, so here's the actually the original kin the the first one They'll still work on wi-fi, but And then this is the the pride and joy Susan Lennon gifted me this one. I wanted it so bad, but a gen one the brown zoom What you do what you give it to you for? Because I asked No, I just mentioned I'd love that. She's like I have one you can have it. I'm like, okay Thank you. Well, and the funny funny the end of the story is Uh, there were uh, there were maybe like a handful of songs on it and one podcast Of todd clint todd and shame. Oh jeez. I believe I had two of those cow I had the original gray box Yeah, that's a coco three. That's what I learned out of program on And assembly 60 uh 68 or 90 Yeah, actually what I did ran on that was a 6800 6800 6802 cross compiler That was fairly easy to why did to come across To uh, to build well worked on a remote control system for a A radio remote by system. I I did the telephone interface And that was in 6800 6802 chin come Nice Very nice exciting stuff And christian here's Well, well, well, no, I just now when I had learned a program back in what year was that Did they have color yet 82? No, it was but it was fancy. It was the amber screen That was like the latest thing. So Yeah, so we're doing basic. No, we were we were uh doing basic and we were My brother and I volunteered with the special needs class It sounds bad like I I really enjoyed that time the volunteering and helping out I got to be friends with this kid kevin Helping him learn to count out money. We're trying to train him to You know be prepared to kind of do some things out and on their own and But we earned computer time and my brother and I We actually wrote some Did some animated games, but it was I mean our animations were Keyboard characters and we painstakingly built every One of the screens Yeah, and then did kind of a tune your choose your own adventure dungeons and dragons type game Well, then until the c 64 that we actually got sprites that was advanced graphics and uh three voice polyphony with sound That's a great band name Three voice polyphony. Yes All right question question 12 Yes, yeah question. It actually sounds like a tenacious d Song title Actually, I can see that. Yeah all right, uh chuckie lee 56 says So there's a yellow message bar not displaying in-site collection permissions page So after a migration content databases from most another share point from 2013 to 2019 Our users and site owners notice the yellow message bar No longer there Undefined this only occurs to all the site collections that are from the 2013 content databases migrated over Site collections created on 2019 doesn't have the issue Does anyone have any issue of how to resolve this? Or how the yellow bar message bar needs to be enabled? um, well, it's Like everything else with share point it depends I mean he says it was migrated, but you know Did he use a third party for this? Did he use uh content database upgrade because he'd have had to go through 2016 first um We need more information checkie lee. Um, my guess is that um You well, if hopefully reverted the site um to get rid of any customizations Uh, maybe not but if you still got a site that's trying to hang on to customizations or has um CSS JavaScript and other stuff that's still active from the previous version you can Get some really wicked hiccups and how the site displays Um, because by the time we got to 2019 Microsoft had actually done a pretty good job of um upgrading The html behind the scene so that wasn't using tables to position things and all of that goofiness But side effect is if you're trying to carry forward any customizations, just give it up revert the site start from The base And go from there, but if you've got more information, how how did you upgrade it or uh, how did you migrate those? Um, you since you're focused on the content databases, it suggests that you Did a content database attach? So I assume you went through 2016. I can ask you about what you saw in 2016 that kind of stuff, but send uh office hours at collab talk Collab talk calm. Let us know what you're doing Or did All right, I know that the guys Sean are excited by uh, share point more share point discussions Hmm Well suck it up guys another share point question here D new yin says So in share point I created a read only list But when a user clicks to view an item in full for some reason they are still seeing the pencil icon For columns and fields that have multiple lines of text Uh, it gives them the impression that they can edit But then when they save they get sorry you don't have access error Is it possible to hide that pencil icon to clean up the interface? Yes. So Okay, all right, let's move on question next Yeah, um I would First of all, it's going to depend on well, you can do it, but the version of share point is going to dictate um Exactly the best way to do that The fact that you can set something up so that Somebody who doesn't have permissions can get that far suggests it's an older version of share point um, because you know once we got to maybe 2013 by 2016 if you didn't have permissions to it typically it was security trimmed out and you wouldn't even see the element Um, but since people can do that this suggests an older version of share point um but I would go about it with um, maybe Uh A content editor web part This is low tech content editor web power or script web part um, and just Insert some css if you know css to Hide that element because i'm sure it's got a a class or at least in at least a class or an id that you can target um But again, if you know, you're one of those people who's got more information Um, let us know what version because that's really important in all of this Well from the image from the screen capture He's always on share point online. Yeah oh It surprises me that he can do that then um Well that little pencil If we were to use f12 debugging tools you can probably get a css class for it or an id Uh, and then it just becomes a matter of uh hiding the element either directly with css or if you like j quarry you can get real flashy But that's that's an easy approach There are plenty of other ways to do it too, but Just a suggestion Okay I like for these share point questions how you guys just let me like ramble on and then christians like All right, all right But I think hey look there's an element that's in there and it's something that you can go in there and you can find it and modify it This is true. There you go Now whether uh, there's an update or something that breaks that removal you might find yourself and they're doing that Once in a while. Yeah, um, that's the problem With your customizations Yeah, anytime you're going to move away from an out of the boxes to share point online out of the box You know, uh experience it's going to force Fix those some of those changes and and so that's why microsoft is uh, I still love that teeper quote Um from years past, which is you know, somebody saying you know, I've got this really complex customized Environment and and you're doing all this stuff to the uis is what am I supposed to do and and teeper's response was Simplifier requirements And uh pushing people towards this that a lot of these organizations. I get it You want to have like branding capability and stuff but Make it look like some kind of open share point right, but they were going so sorry Well, look for one share point was ugly for a long time It's not anymore. So they've they've kind of delivered on on that at least and But some organizations you wanted to have such a customized experience where it's like, you know It would have been cheaper and faster for you just to go and build it from the ground up Yourself as a portal rather than go through share point and then complain about a bunch of stuff But so you want to take that have the benefits of all the capabilities and the rich features that come out It's like simplify your requirements use as much out of the box as possible Um and uh, that's always been the mantra. I think the issue back then feel though. Yeah The issue back then though was If you used share point your company was probably spending a metric ton of money on it And so they had a very big hammer and everything looked like a nail a lot of times it became a political We have to use share point Otherwise, I can't tell you how many potential customers. I've suggested they use something other than share point I said, you know, we could build it in share point But we'd be working around the system I believe in going with it rather than fighting it and you're going to be fighting it to the nail all the way You want a relational data structure? You need that share point? It's not your tool I'd like to be paid uh by uh metric weight of Of money as well versus the value of the money. I think it'd be a better deal I I'm inclined to agree Old bars way, you know Yeah, but I would take a metric ton of cash You could pay me a one dollar bills and I think it will still exceed the value of The you know the the amount on its own but all right, so Okay, so uh question 14 Uh, oh look at that another share point related Move files and keep metadata um I guess it's going where I think it is. No, you're not going to be doing Go ahead and read it. Okay. Come on. You're just you're people can't see it. It's a very visual media here media mirror um So k jocco k jaco k jaco k We need to ng so asks uh, we need to archive files that we want to move to a new library The new library is created by using uh share gate. So for the move to clone settings and lists And so on from the original library. So everything is identical between these two sites The main or the original library has some columns with lookups to a list when we move documents to the archive library All the lookup columns metadata are removed and therefore blank. So half of the columns are now missing Another strange thing is that content type always changes on a document you move over to in the archive library We have 20 different content types new files created in the archive library is working fine um So key points and problems. So the lookup metadata has gone when moved Content types are changed in a move document And new files created on archive libraries working fine with metadata and lookup columns So this is all about share point object id's When data goes across if you're copying it or you think you're moving it the values themselves will go across but Unless the only thing i'm aware of that actually you could where you could retain an object's identity Was the content deployment api uh that was rolled out with 2007 and kept for a while after that Tools like share gate which are going through the web service interface. You are not Typically retaining object identity. So even though they can set up a flat list And bring the data across everything has a different object id The problem is those lookup columns They're looking up by object Identity and so the simple act of copying it breaks the the references um Likewise with content types You know, it's all a symptom of the same problem. So I would see what you can do to retain object identity I don't know that there's much to really do that yeah, you know Things have changed so much since I was You're working actively in the space um So the technology is just it's fundamentally different from you know the products that we had that So, yeah, I don't have to value add for that Yeah, it gets into the details I'd say make friends with uh folks at share gate. They are very friendly people And once you're friends with them you might actually be able to Talk and get some answers out of them or some help but Well, you can certainly find benjamin nylons contact information Everywhere out on the web as well as this picture. Yeah little Ben faces with a beard That's right. I still think it's funny. I was going through photos and found photos of him back in 2011 Baby face to this hair sticking up all crazy and yeah Yeah One more share point question. So, uh, mike and hal just enjoy sit back and Soak it in soak it in We'll tee it up for you Yeah, so here is I don't know if we're gonna have an answer for this, uh, john, but um Siri asks, uh, and not And why is siri asking us instead of us? I know it's creepy Uh, I have several sites with one hub sites connected to all team sites When uploading files the library in one site it shows up in the hub site most recent documents web part But disappears in about 10 minutes We want to it to show up in most recent documents and stay there Have checked the web part edit and filter is on earlier this month All types of documents. Is this a bug? I don't know how that web part's supposed to work Um most recent documents. I know that at one point you could They had a little bit of customizability on the period of time when something would like remain with a new flag You had some ability to control that But you know most recent documents web part and a hub site interaction. I I don't know how that's supposed to work Yeah, I I same thing as it would be a hub site that's going to be collecting from a number of different locations It could be that it just gets pushed out Uh, you said it disappeared after 10 minutes though. I don't think it's supposed to auto purge those from that list if there's not been other new ones coming in Yeah, and I would want to ask you they say 10 minutes. I mean are they clearing their cash between Refetching pages and things Is it actually 10 minutes or is this like a transient event? That goes away very quickly, but perhaps we're looking at cash data I don't think it's a timed 10 minute. I think it's just kind of as an example It's within minutes that it's gone. That would be my assumption I but I mean if you if you don't have any other new things that are going on again If it's a if it's a hub site you've got how many different people that have access to that That could be uploading content to one of the sites that are part of that hub and pushing it out of its place But if that's not the case and you don't have Anything that would push it out of that that view and is disappearing from that list Like what's showing up in that list? Look, I I have I think this feature is it's a little bit suspect in even in some of my office usage Where I have things that unless I go in and pin them. Yeah, they just they disappear And they shouldn't it's just me that has access to them And they do not show up where they're supposed to be Um, I find that's controlled to some extent by the account that I'm logged in and using the office apps as I've got Oh, we lost lost on His time was up. No more sharepoint question He was sharing some information that apparently microsoft does not want the world to know This Ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens. Yeah, you share Nda information. He was going into um secret knowledge Of what's happening with the recent documents Uh, that's right. That's right. And the microsoft police are actively listening to this but this this broadcast every week They're like we have to listen to this because they're going to spill something I've seen it once if they're not a hundred times what they do They probably, you know, they you get the ropes that swing down. They crash through the windows And uh, you know, he's so he's probably being arrested right now Did you get a picture of this by the way? That's a good that's a good image of shone right there Oh and now he's gone. Yeah He's probably listening to us Yelling at us saying bad words about us How that's exactly where I went as well with brazil so You know before we were harassed about it. I don't know if he's actually watched it yet It's one of my all-time favorite movies, but Yeah Yeah I I my favorite is it, you know, it's robert a young robert narrow But where he goes out the window and swings on the rope up Yeah Swings out it up and disappears. He's the renegade HVAC repair man. You've seen it. Mike, haven't you? Oh, yeah Yep It's kind of like Certain movies that I believe are required Viewing brazil is one of them Uh caddy caddy shack. Yeah, that's a classic. I'm a huge fan of fight club It's dark I don't think it's a classic. I don't think that's a classic. Yeah I think I think you're like you're talking about classic classic Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you want to talk about cult classics, you know, obviously rocky horror picture show You know Yeah I mean, that's a certain kind of my mind like I love uh, yeah, it looks like the money monopython Holy grail, holy grail. That's on the list. I I really like one of the classics. I think it's a classic is Raising Arizona Yeah, I love that movie. That was it. That was the actual first movie good movie that I saw nick cage actually do It's fantastic in that that is a great movie, but Yeah, but yeah, I've got a certain uh, I know I'm not a big fan of uh, like the top 10 lists of favorite movies and stuff because you know, you kind of depending on your mood change a bit but Like I'm a huge fan of uh blade runner. I think it's my all-time favorite movie. Just absolutely love that movie Yeah, that's probably the best adaptation of a science fiction novel for me Spending a lifetime of reading science fiction novels That's probably the best adaptation of to give you the feeling that the same feelings that I felt reading a novel From a movie that takes my takes the cake Yeah, I got that I got that from hitchhiker's guide at the gallows You know, and I mean that was a say I read the book and I'm like this is exactly what I experienced in the book but blade runner for me and between blade runner and also what and saw my dad took my brother and I did see Uh, the first alien movie when it came out scared the crap out of us, but you know Fantastic, but it's though. I think blade runner and alien on more of the the the horror side of things but both Painted a picture of a non crisp and clean Uh, you know futuristic it was it was much more I mean, I love a lot of the post apocalyptic movies But those two were more just like it was you can believe that they were in the future You know, you've got a freighter There there's dirt and grime and it wasn't star trek You know, you could have got that you could have got that for mad max You know Yeah mad max and thundered up. Yeah Well, those are good movies too. Yeah But I I'm I'm still gonna insist on forbidden planet Sorry, yeah Yeah, yeah I could see that. I mean a lot too many cool people were in there Yeah, yeah Before the cool people and that's the cool part of it because I mean most of those people at that time Earl Holloman and at gracious uh, uh, Anne Francis Wesley Nielsen Oh, but there's two or three more. I mean they went on to be huge. Yeah, television personalities for Ja, Ja, Jack Kelly who went on to be Brett Maverick on then Bart Maverick on the Maverick show Just so many of those guys went on to be huge TV show stars and that was long before anybody ever heard of them So and it's and the movie is exceedingly campy and really for for for for something that had a lot of I'm guessing you would have to call that mechanical CGI. It was pretty well done. Yeah Well, there's how do we get on this topic? I mean, I was like, uh Maybe Sean So it threw us off on the one last thing I would say it's like I I'm a really big fan of You know spinal tap of courses and another new classic You're quotable, but I have to say The better the better movie as much as I love spinal tap Best in show It is fantastic It is it is amazing It's every every character in it and it's just uh You know that that it was hilarious to see spinal tap but they They perfected the art with best in show And I don't know how much of what was spoken on screen if any was scripted I think they had a general outline And then the whole thing is just an hour and a half of ad-libbing And it's just hysterical. Well, have you ever seen the they have a documentary that goes back to old movies? Like animal house and caddy shack and And airplane and all these other ones And they actually talk about how the movies were created right caddy shack Bill Murray and caddy shack He had one line that was written I just I just saw something last last week on that about the whole like the most famous line was you know, the uh Cinderella story That whole thing was just him going just like there was there was nothing said there And it was just him making stuff up everything everything he made up and the you know They were like, yeah, we gave him one line in the entire movie and he just took it from there And that's that that to me is acting genius. That's just that's g All right, uh, let's jump back in so I have this one, uh, I don't know, uh, you know this Again, this is one I I can't provide any help here, but um a cartwright Says, uh, I've been looking into the shifts Preview connector and power automate to approve open shift requests I've managed to get the templates But I'm having issues. So it's all out on github Every time the flow runs it fails with a forbidden Forbidden message on each open shift request and a full error And if you guys have the email if you can see that error code, yeah You know, I can't find any useful links online. I've just I have access to approved requests in the apps Does anyone have any ideas? I don't know if either of you have Played around that at all No power automate is something that I have not I mean, I remember downloading an app That was made available somebody created one for a, uh Early warning system One of the mvp's created a power automate app that Would allow you to send sms messages to your entire company If you had some kind of a panic alert or active shooter or something like that But that is the extent of what I've looked at power automates. So Well, help help here, but I think one of the other things that consider here too is that it's in preview Um, so let's say work in progress There's there could be a lot of just you know odd errors as they're building something out. I mean one thing There he is So one thing I would say is is um to make sure you document to uh to go in and log the issue To to go in there, of course, this is posted this, uh, uh a cart right posted this out on The microsoft tech community as it opens. So it's an unanswered question that's out there um, so I'd say that if anybody else is experiencing this that you can go out and and search for that on tech community um, so it's microsoft shifts for teams power automate errors uh and vote that up like that follow that that comment But uh to to log that with with microsoft so that the right people are Viewing that paying attention to it. I I say I said this this morning You know while uh across the board microsoft product teams are doing a great job of listening into What's coming out of the community you have You know dozens of these product teams and the engineering teams that are building each of these Not everybody's always paying attention to what's being posted whether it's relevant Uh, whether they've got queries. They've got you know filters and they're viewing posts out on tech community or not to find this so don't just sit and wait for a response Um pushing till you get your your feedback into the hands of the right person Um, so shan talking about number 16. I don't know if you add to that Yeah, I I don't it sounded like whatever you were saying Addressed it. I don't have any practical experience With that connector That's another one where my my guess to sum it up is um, I don't know the answer, but I admire the problem Sorry for the disappearance guys Bravo for bringing that Sorry for the disappearance my system decided to spontaneously reboot Is that because of those those hyper threads those? Yeah No, I suspect it's because I haven't completely tied off all the uh threads Cables and whatnot. I still gotta put the uh new graphics card in once I get that rmaed back That's when I'll clean things up because it acts like it's it's some I hear a little click something shorts out and then everything goes blank so By the way, it's just sideways just everybody is anyone planning on on picking up as soon as it's available the new xbox My son is Yeah, he's already he's already picking out, you know is uh Games and everything he's just like he wants the xbox gold pass he wants all this kind of stuff You know he has a ps4 right now and he's just like the new graphics are just phenomenal that I got to get this You know He's gonna sell back his ps4 back to the game stop or whatever. So yeah Yeah, I commented to my one of my sons asked he said dad you're gonna get it and I'm like look you know me And shawn you just appreciate this too is it unless there's some new lord of the rings game I'd like I have that's exclusive to that. I have no reason to get it. What did I see today? I want it now. What did I see today? It's a new golem game exclusively for the xbox x I uh, yeah There's the purchase in right there Nobody tell my wife That's hilarious. I I can totally appreciate that Many of the games many of the upgrades I did in the past were driven by New mech warrior game releases. Yeah, I went to a 486 overdrive chip To get that playing on the mech warrior 2 mech warrior 3 It's like you can literally look at it and you could see where I did upgrades There reminds me is any of you guys uh taking a look at the new flight simulator I've seen screen pick screenshots from it a lot of friends Uh on uh facebook It's really impressive. Yeah, I was actually on a zoom call Uh with someone and he's like, yeah, I just got just got flight simulator and he's like You know has a little cessna, you know, you can pick, you know Somebody flight simulator you can pick planes and all that, but he's like, hey, I wonder what this looks like coming over zoom You know, so you like changes the script and it looks really good Yeah The one change they made I heard is that uh, they really discourage you from flying under bridges. Yes I wasn't robbed. Was it a rock boat that just posted that today or I I don't I think more than one person posted it somebody likes to fly under the golden gate and uh, yeah Yeah, but you can fly into tunnels it actually lets you fly into into tunnels. Yeah Yeah, because that makes so much more sense than fly under a bridge. Yeah Yeah, so I because it's uh, yeah, I think a lot of people are like me in that respect is that like Obviously, I'm gonna fly under a bridge. So what do you mean? They discourage it high tension power cables I mean, come on. Is there anything else to do with those? It's too bad. It's just too expensive Yeah The flight sim game Yeah, flight sim. I shouldn't say flights in game or some purist will poo poo me I've noticed a couple without this or have got full consoles out too that have got You know all the matching flight screens and controls and throttles and throttles. Yeah, I've seen some some of those $2,000 Yeah, but it's actually There's a shortage now on joysticks on flight sticks Really? Yeah, there's just there's an actual shortage. I had the um The a10 hands-on throttle and stick system that I sent I I was never using and I sent it to uh Um middle school buddy of mine who's a big flight sim guy and he was thankful for it I don't know if he actually got it running or not, but That was the sweet thing that thing like Wade That was solid Well, I know it's it's like when you do the driving games and if you have the actual You know rig and can sit and have the pedals and like that it improves the the experience Similarly, you know to set something up that has that where you can have the kind of the cockpit experience It improves that the game like I I used to crush it in the discs of tron Booth addition Of that at that game and I could never get the same score When it was the standing free regular arcade game But I'm telling you when you had the surround sound and it was boxed you in so I could lean back I'd play off the walls You know in that booth So it was really upset when they moved that machine It was there. I had the high score It was at the Brigham Young University and the wilkson center the community center at the center of the campus And I went back for for 10 12 years visiting campus and it was still there My high score was there and then down by the bowling alley, then they moved the machine and They put it at the ice party machine. I don't want to talk about it I think you were the last person to play it and they discovered no one else played it Which is why the score stayed and then it was removed to generate some money So that was one of those things where I could play one quarter and be in there Maybe 50 cents that I was there for an hour hour and a half. I mean, yeah money well spent. Yep. It was a lot of fun Uh, I had a lot of a lo and time I hear you I am no stranger to the arcade being being the the broke called student with no vehicle So girls don't like to date the guy that has no money and no vehicle I don't know what it is and plays video games That's a problem. You went to a campus that allows vehicles. Yeah, there you go All right, we've got a few more minutes. Let's try and knock out 19 and 20 here. So the non-share point Did yeah, okay. Yeah Yeah, there's some other share point ones. I'll I'll leave them for next week um So 19, uh, Kenaho Uh, for some users on some sites the share via email button does not appear on our Yeah, yeah, share point share point online internet some of our users on some of our sites Are missing the share via email button. It appears to be due to a permission setting of some sorts Um, I'm not quite sure which setting to look for so if anyone could point me in the right direction If you guys seen that um I believe it. I don't specifically know that But share point online they're Share point one point had like 47 individual permission levels Uh, that you could assign. I'm not sure If we have more with share point online right now, but I would suspect We do simply because you can do more with that than you can on-prem. Let me see if I can find that All right, well the in the last one here. They're all share point ones. What was I doing here? Yes I don't know. Yeah earlier wonder. Did I miss a couple? It's no. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. Yeah, my whole case, but No, he plays favorites to Sean. He'd like I don't uh It says word Tricky well, that's why I went and I grabbed this uh, and when I put this list together Of course, I had it sitting there for a couple days and didn't share them with you guys So I'm working on that as well um But it wasn't because I and I knew at the time that it was share point related But I thought it had it was a broader appeal because of the Of what he's trying to do and and get the other controls from word So I'll post a question. We can answer or not answer for the next two and a half minutes here, but This is from uh, Anna Um, and she says, uh, we are working share with share point online 29 or share point online 2019 share point online. We are customizing list forms using spfx Uh, we got stuck in a point on rich text editor We need similar behaviors like in microsoft word for bullets numbering continue numbering, etc Is it possible to integrate word? In a with a web part to get those additional controls Um, or is there a way to launch word inside of a web part and user enters data and gets To save it to our list form No, probably but it's going to look like frankenstein's monster She's or he is going to be whoever it is is going to be better served just finding, uh An html rich text editing control and employing that in their framework web part I wouldn't try and I don't know about The word web based application I assume The web based applications a little friendlier, but I I would doubt that microsoft Invested any time in any great extensibility and integration with it I don't think so either. I think the real question is the we want People that want to have more rich text capabilities out of the box For the web part and so that would be something I just I don't know but it could again I would be surprised if there wasn't some similar request already in user voice And or something on the roadmap for this. They've done a lot. There's been talk about extending a lot of the rich text capability So that's to be aware of what's out there and log it go in and log that in user voice If there's something that's not out there Post it people to vote on it. That's a developer request though. That's the problem Um, I understand what you're saying. I agree with it, but that's a development request Well, the request for it to be integrated integrated or for the additional features to have it available They're talking about putting it in a share point framework web part That's because the features don't exist. They're trying that's a workaround They're saying if we don't have the features out of the natively Then could we integrate with word my my response is that you want the features you want to be able to add these other Word like features Make that feature request for the product As a secondary question is whether you can integrate it or not Okay, well, I will take a couple pieces of homework Since I've been in I've had to go look for these sorts of things before I know somebody's done it in the past, but it was years ago. It was a completely different version You know of things it wasn't online, but they were able to go in and expand that but I mean to your earlier point I mean it was a frankenstein solution Um, it was a one-off. It was a very custom solution For that SharePoint portal that we talked about earlier that you don't want to go and customize and make it stop looking and working like share point Yeah, well, I in this case you know like for instance akumina as a You know digital um workplace product They've got a rich text editor embedded in their provider hosted application. I think most of the internet as a You know the internet in a box solutions have Additional capabilities like that. Yeah But my point is they can probably very easily um add that capability just by getting a Free or relatively cheap third-party control Think of the jQuery ui which extends jQuery with full-featured calendars and other sorts of ui elements I'm I know that they're out. In fact, it may even be part of jQuery ui But you wouldn't want to probably you wouldn't want to put that in a share point framework web part They're probably looking for a react component Um, let me see what I can find. Okay. I'll take that away. I'm not gonna blog about it, but Sean always gets the homework You notice that track You guys are the eye candy for this operation I have a moment more operational, but uh Oh, hey, I did have a question for you guys. Can you now hear the sound effects? When I No No No Correct hits you don't hear No, sir Say it Well, see I wasn't able to test it before I added But apparently I need to go and configure it some more for it to work But perhaps if you spent less time on the key And more time in the configuration. We wouldn't be having this conversation. Sean. It's a lot less fun I believe that no, I mean the problem is you know, I need to test I need to actually we need to be together. I need you guys to be able to respond That's not something I can go and test alone. It kind of It sounds like it works to me, you know from my side. I need you guys to be able to hear it But yeah, well, you know where I am. I've helped you as a Yes The other reality is I I remember to go and test it about 10 minutes before we go live in the morning every Monday So 10 minutes you that's foresight. I know That's double digit minutes. Well, we're out of time. Um, we don't have time for you to mock me now We could do to save that for next week But uh, again, thanks for uh for watching paying attention watching the recording for this If you want to if you have questions you'd like us to try and address Um, you can email us at office hours at collab talk.com Where we'll be back next Monday or every Monday at 8 a.m. And 6 p.m. Pacific And tell your friends tell your family members and uh Otherwise we'll be scouring the interwebs for other questions that Are not all share point related next week. Thank you. Thank you We get a little more diversity in the questions that are out there, you know, and how I just want to say you look mighty dapper today Well, thank you kindly. I do like the cat's background. It's one of my favorites, too. So yeah Well, they were they were in here prowling around earlier, but All right. Well, good to see everybody and welcome back mic and we'll see everybody next week