 certainly we're on just like this on zoom calls uh almost on a daily basis and uh we have um i have five songs completed for drums and we're working on four we have nine songs total four other songs were in various stages of completion for arranging the songs pause for a second i think there was a delay on going live so once again we're on the metal voice our guest shondrover fellow montrealer x mega death and currently withering scorn so please repeat that go ahead yes good to see you guys as always uh yeah right now we're we're uh way into the writing and recording of our second withering scorn record and things are going great and uh just kind of like we are here i'm on zoom or our facebook video almost daily with my brother working on stuff and uh things are going very well we're very excited about it very tight but that's not why we're here today that's not why we're here today no but it's all right we want to hear quick quick plug quick plug let's here we go alan shows yours the original we're doing that we'll go quick plug do you have another plug there shonor is that it no uh so why are we here today anyway what's what's the topic of uh what is that we're soon to be blessed i think they're already starting the tour in a lot of places we're going to soon receive armored saint and toddletory and our good friend screens right here in montreal coming up so we jimmy came up with this great idea of just hey since they're performing the ep in the warning why don't we do a little flashback flashback to the 80s and talk about the ep absolutely yeah i mean they're in illinois tonight tomorrow indian apolis queens right in armband st then calamazoo i always like that name calamazoo in michigan detroit cincinetti cleveland then april 19th toronto canada and then munch y'all right after on the 20th it's sold out by the way munch y'all fans are going crazy over this of course it's sold out it's munch y'all it's munch y'all and then kichner on the 21st in canada and then pennsylvania new york massachusetts connecticut new jersey and pennsylvania again all the dates are on queens rike official dot com i believe that's what the url is started to cut everybody off but i just want to do that quick oh that's good good on the tour right go get your tickets now december 1983 this is what i purchased and we were saying early i you know i had just enough money to cover an album and just enough to i think it was 399 was what this was listed at i didn't have enough for a second album so i had enough for the ep and that's we all ended up buying that i said all our friends and where did you buy it i can't remember where i bought it but uh not rock i i bought a little known fact i bought ozzy osbourne bark of the moon on the same day so queen of the rike it's all there on emi america that so that's the second pressing yes there was an independent pressing right yeah on 206 records out of seattle and you know how many they pressed no for your question 20 000 copies all sold out yeah korean magazine went crazy on them and next you know they're signed to emi yeah that was in 1982 the independently released the demos the four the sorry not demos but the songs for that album queens rike the lady were black i'm blacking out right yeah queen of the rike queen of the right sorry the night were black night rider and blinded night rider blinded see i just i don't have to look at my notes i don't have to look at my notes oh my god late summer 1982 exactly jim guys i'll give you a preface to all this and then shon you could tell us about your your feeling when you first bought this album so you had the mob which was the core group without jeff tate and then you had uh myth is it myth was myth right more rainbow d o d purple influenced and they asked jeff and so the story goes and please correct me from wrong they asked jeff can you they didn't have a singer they played some gigs with him but they didn't have an official singer so jeff goes with them to record these songs because he's never been in a recording studio before and he goes wow it's a great experience but i'm not going to quit myth i'm not going to quit myth so he does the songs as alan showed us and told us the independently it just took off right it just exploded and they were managed by what was their name jim and diana harris who had a record store called easy street records in seattle and they managed them they changed their name from the mob because it was taken and that was from the mob rules by the way they changed the name to queens rite which was the title track queen of the rite and it exploded so much so that karang magazine did it right up right alan that you mentioned before yeah then they did a a showing with uh what do you call it sha not a showing a showcase showcase okay with zebra in my love them signed him to a seven album deal rumor has it that tickets uh were very slow for the zebra and with the moment they put green dragon for the opening act is sold out the venue sold out so shan you've been on major labels what is it to be signed to a seven album deal i mean at least that's what i'm reading i mean maybe it was a fit five or six but seven album deal yeah i mean you know again but i don't know if that's true or not i mean i'm sure you're referencing that online um it's definitely possible but you know if that was the case that's a great thing because of the continuity you're knowing that group going to be behind you you know even if say the first record was a flop or whatever you know nowadays you get dropped or whatever but you know if they did have that many records uh of a deal that's a great thing ultimately um but you know i'm not really sure that to be honest i never asked that would have been you know that would have been unheard of at the time right well they did open for twist and sister right they went on tour with sister they started with quiet riot right who was super hot at that time and then did some opening shows for twist and sister and the deal now shan's a slightly older than us they played at the spectrum here in Montreal with opening for twist and sister yep and in the local paper the gazette the next day all they could talk about how was queen's right blue twist the sister off the stage well you know that's that's that's a that's a press you know i don't know if anybody blows twist and sister off the stage it's certainly in their Haiti those guys were on fire but um i mean look man you know i i vividly remember i saw queen's right in uh 1986 for rate for order tour open for ozzie at the forum i went there as well yeah we're all there and that show is on youtube and you talk about a band on fire jeff tape was i mean he was on fire on that show i i still remember not even watching youtube stuff and um i just going man this that he's such an amazing singer um especially at that time with the ep i mean you know you talk in 1982 here and and certainly hollford was singing high stuff and hollford's one of the best singers in metal history in my opinion but jeff tape man i mean when that when that record came out i mean the vocals are so the band is amazing of course but to me if you inserted another singer in that situation it wouldn't have the same result to me jeff tape really pushed it over the edge in my opinion in terms of just uh stellar musicianship and just you know one of the best singers in metal history in my opinion certainly is jeff tape on those certainly on those earlier records i mean it got him he was hard to match man he was just just brutal you know you know when we first listened to especially queen of the rike we're like oh okay uh america's answered our iron maiden right that was that was my my reaction and uh strange enough i never had that reaction now and i never i never said you know these guys remind me of maiden i just i don't know i didn't hear it but go ahead no that's it i mean queen of the rike itself that song like like shan said the vocals on that and you know what's fun is we're i saw toad's very creeds rike open for the scorpions and he came out and he nails nails that whole song note for note it just wow i haven't seen that sung that way in decades so uh it'll be interesting to see interesting night to hear that played the played again so and again and i'll go ahead and i will mention again everyone the tour is starting and they're playing the whole ep plus prophecy and all of the warning so that's why it's called the origins tour so go ahead shan you know what we were obviously talking a lot about the ep which is a fantastic record but my all-time favorite queens rike record is the warning so for them to do this to play this record for the first time and probably maybe the only time they'll ever do this as it's you know playing the warning and the ep in its entirety which is reason right there why everybody should go see the show because they may not ever do it again um that this got a great thing for me because that record holds such great memories the warning record um to me it's such a heavy and very dark record in a lot of places very um dynamic you know it's not just like in your you know it's not just like cleaning the right just completing your face all time there's a lot of songs that have different kinds of metal to it which i really loved a lot um to this day i mean really that's my all-time favorite queens rike record is the warning of course everybody loves operation mind crime that's an empire and all that stuff but it's you know if you told me you've asked me what name your favorite all-time queens rike record it's the warning so this this whole tour for me is a fantastic opportunity for people to go check out the show and again you know Todd just absolutely crushes it i mean you could not in my opinion you could not pick a better singer to replace Jeff in queens rike i don't there's guys who can do it but Todd gets all the nuances and really goes that extra mile in my opinion to really try to nail it and uh stay true to what the songs were so i always give Todd kudos for that um not because he's a good friend of mine if he sucked i would say he sucks and he knows god knows that no i love Todd and he's i just think he's such a great singer and this is just the perfect band for him and uh it's great that these guys are still killing it man you know all these years later they still love it and uh they're doing great Shawn and he's still he's he's equal Todd what i like about Todd especially he's still a fan of the band right he started out as a fan of the band so he enjoys singing these songs as much as we like listening to them so yeah and that's a that's a big thing i mean that's we we share that similarity where you know at the time that i spent in mega that i was there over 10 years and you know i loved that band so you know i didn't just join some band for a paycheck it wasn't about that that was all that other stuff was icing on the cake bottom line for me was i love that band i've always loved mega that especially the early stuff so for me to be on stage playing wake up dead and all the stuff that i grew up with loved that was a real special thing for me and i know Todd feels the same way because you know he's such a big queen's right fan so you know that's that's a he's in a he's in a great spot yeah guys when we take apart the songs on the cp right and you guys talked about the scream right that that first the first note that jeff tate hits is you know some sort of high note but it's powerful right it's powerful note and but what's amazing about queen of the rite the song was written by de garmo he says it was about some sort of nightmare he had it's when you watch the music have you guys seen the music video for this yeah of course it's interesting because it starts off with uh you know who is the queen of the rite she is an evil adventurer who has enslaved the world after the fourth great war with an ancient computerized energy by a crystal she found and declared herself queen of the rite the only thing standing in her way are the five freedom fighters portrayed by the bad members so even at the beginning even at the beginning they were talking about computers and you're talking about like 1982 here right when they probably filmed this or 83 so even back then they're talking about a world of today i guess in a way right so that's what that's what the allure of queensord has always been the vocals the music and the lyrical content that was always sort of interesting that's what i want to say and hey you know what let's get shan's opinion i always i enjoy scott rocking film i think he's an unbelievable drummer on all the albums what are your thoughts on that absolutely are you kidding me i mean the guys they all they all really inject their personalities into the music it's not just a stock it's not a stock drummer or you know there's i can tell you i can you know i can tell the difference between whip solos and the garmo solos of course i'm such a big fan of it so over the years you're just you know you just adapt to it but i mean scott rocking film that guy was a big influence on me when i was when i was a teenager you know i mean it's fantastic drummer but he didn't overplay and he certainly didn't underplay i thought he's a very tasteful drummer and uh i mean you know again a key component to that band in my opinion you put another drummer in there you probably wouldn't get the same result plus he was involved in other aspects of the band as well not you know i don't think he was i don't think he was ever content just being the drummer i think he was involved in a lot of different facets of the band back in the day i don't know to what degree but you know again they're all super important uh in my opinion those five guys i think if you inserted in another guy i don't know if you would have got the same result you know but again you know this of course like you suggest you know the scream at the beginning queen queen of the right i mean it was just like what a way to start a record man it was just just brutal brutal man when you take the second song right night rider yep and a lot of people say to garmo to garmo to garmo but this is a michael wilton song and their garmo wrote the lyrics so people tend to forget that michael wilton was a huge contributor of the band and even on the first dp right on every album yeah on every album yes but i'm just saying even from the beginning that's what i'm trying to say um and he's you know he's still with the band a lot of people say oh they're a cover band they're a cover band but there are two core co-founders there who are especially michael wilton who's such a huge contributor contributor to the legacy of the band and i think blinded and actually this is what i want to say about blinded i asked todd i go Todd are you gonna hit that note at the end of blinded it might be one of the highest notes jeff tate has ever pulled off and he goes every night i'm gonna do it and if you watch some youtube videos he's freaking hitting it and i could tell you right now 100% certainty he's not dialing it in he's not faking it he is pulling off that note so if you want to go see queens right just go hear that one note he's pulling off live that's what i want to say unblinded Todd Todd doesn't fake shit Todd's the real deal i mean that's that's that note is f sharp or g standard tuning if i if i remember right and i know exactly how about the end of blinded i think i think it's at least an f sharp for all you geeks out there uh so i mean that's that's two notes insane that's two notes higher than the queen of the right stream which is in east standard e to it oh so you know yeah i mean no Todd Todd's Todd can do it he knows so after this video everybody go to youtube type blinded and go to the last part of the song where he hits that note he does that live look i don't want to jinx the guy here right i got your records on how do i jinx the metal voices challenge but him attempting it is is kudos to him for that right but you know we were nice we were lucky enough to to meet michael wilton spend some time with him and jimmy you know you asked him like why you know maybe you need a pr agent you were teasing because nobody ever talks about michael wilton the guitarist and he's like you just listened to all the albums that he's performed on it all is writing and he's a heavyweight man yes he's shy that's why he's he's a quiet guy that's why you know he's just i was like he's almost like he's a secret weapon you know i mean yeah i would like you suggest everybody talked about you know dagar motif collaborations blah blah and they were really if you look at reference old videos they were kind of the spokesman in a lot of interviewers and all that stuff which is fine you know singer main guitar player main songwriter but of course wilton was a very big contributing factor to a lot of that stuff so just look just because you don't tell everybody that you're you're great or you know you you know you probably doesn't feel the need to have to he knows what he did so you know what i mean he's very unassuming you know i mean he's a great guy and he's a great guitar player so you know and again i'll say this unblinded and on nightrider wilton collaborates with the garbo he writes the music the garbo does the lyrics so right there that's a testament to this ep right and uh the music they did i don't think he was 20 was even 20 at the time i don't i bet you wasn't i don't think they were i don't think they were i don't yeah i mean they're freaking kids you know yeah yeah so then you have the lady alan first time you heard the lady wore black you don't want to do a night right okay go ahead nightrider sorry we forgot nightrider go i mean uh yeah those are the two standards for queen of the rake and lady wore black and the rumor has it that they turned off all the lights in the studio and lit one candle to get that atmospheric vibe when he when he recorded the vocals and that's obviously jeff tape contribution on the album is a lady wore black and just the way it builds and starts slow like laxan mentioned about the next album the warning there's a lot you know starts take hold of the flame and a few other songs it starts much lower much laid back and then it builds to that big crescendo and probably a scream or two in there and i mean this was a blueprint for the songs to come it was the blueprint for the whistle the whistle the whistle jeff tates first whistle because he whistles right in error and they left that line and then on the warning he's got a whistle and on rage forward he's got a whistle so it's the blueprint for the whistle yeah right i guess follow what i'm saying you remember that yeah it's right at the beginning of lady wore a black sorry it's all you want to go to night right or what that's funny night right it's it's it's all it's shan talking about night right it's just it's just a great tune i mean look i mean all all the tunes are great um you know later where black is has a little more dynamics to it you know queen of the rake is just a sledgehammer to the face i mean that's what's great about the you know here's the question that i was going to ask you both and i i never asked whip which i really should have but is why did they just do four songs why didn't they do do a full lp at the time that's a good question it's a very good question we should ask him i would think it's it's money it was money how many bands how many bands back in the day had their first record after they got signed being an ep if you think about it just really not a ton i mean there's wasp felt like a beast right that that had four did that three or four can't remember they never worry about songs but there weren't many uh debuts by a metal band at any point really that was a was an ep so that in itself is kind of a a special thing you know what i mean it's like you know um certainly put up by you know of course i got signed by yamaya after the fact but you know you just i just kind of wonder why they didn't just do four more songs like you know i could tell you i could answer that question for you after reading through the notes of all this album they're basically using night hours in the studio they're saving all their money from their jobs to create this this this demo i think it was just financial because back in the day when we were young lads it was a fortune to work to to record something in the studio right and yes it was and the quality of these songs have stood the test of time okay it's not perfect but man the quality's there right yeah well it's not it's probably it's not neat records right it's i mean the EMI at the end of the day that's right you can tell a few of the new album bands it's hard to listen to them today with the production that was going on and we spoke about this to uh to jeff even you know about being on EMI who was you know i think this was the first foray into the heavy metal world back then was with queens right you know we got a lot of Atlantic and CBS records with priests and and others and but nobody was on EMI back then and so they got a great a great push of major label right off right off the bat and and the backing like you said earlier to the backing to go along with it so and alan i think when we talked to d snider he told us here they were a struggling band twiz's sister they're breaking they're going you know they're working their way up and then out comes the limo and queens right they've already got the opening slot on a tour like they haven't done and i think that tour with twiz's sister was actually their first proper tour minus a few club dates they probably did at the start right so i think did they play i my notes said they did quite right just before maybe it was quite right right before down in louisiana baton rouge i don't know how many dates they did but but but having what you guys just said they if you think about it they really beat the system didn't they let you reference twiz's sister who literally slugged it out in the clubs for 10 years before before they really hit with with the hungry record you know and queens right didn't have to do that at all they just they put out an ep they got signed and wow and they were playing with choir right we're playing with you know i mean it just shows you the power of signing with a big label and that has that push and can get you to the right places i mean they really if you think about it they really did beat the system in terms of not having to slug it out for six years and driving separate cars and not sleeping all that garbage you know i mean of course that there is a i suppose back in the day there's probably a bit of romanticism about it you know but probably not a whole lot you know i mean going through that crap i'm sure is not a fun thing at any time point you know but uh they really did beat the system in terms of not having to slug it out in the clubs to get a name and i didn't think about a time at the time yeah i didn't think about the time but looking back releasing a less expensive because it's an ep to get a taster a feel for the band that set the set the the path to when the warning came out to have major sales with the warning following it because it was a taster for for you know guys that didn't have a lot of money nobody was working we're all still in high school 39 you know we were cheese i don't even know how i got all my money that nothing illegal but it's a miracle that i was able to spend by an album a week back then so you know i think there's a great marketing play i agree i'm pretty sure i picked up the album at rock on stock before the warning came out but there was this buzz i guess in all the hip raiders and circus magazines and there was this big big buzz and and i would just see pictures i didn't know what the music they didn't play it on the radio did it they didn't play it on the metal files i don't think they played queens rake that's before the metal that was before the metal files and i'm pretty sure i bought it right just basically on the articles in the mags right in the magazines and and just the buzz and i'm pretty sure my buddy ron he had that ep before i had it and he played it to me was like what and then the warning came out that was like oh my god what's going on here yeah it was always in your face and it was at a reasonable price so like i said we had just enough money to buy it then then you listen to it and i mean you're like oh wow where's their next album coming out you know everybody landed up buying it after a while so listen to this chad who's on the chat here i grew up in takoma washington i remember when they first hit a local radio station played lady were black and it blew up so there you go there was the massive buzz there was a timing thing too right iron maiden were taken off you know a judoist priests were taken off 82 why riot don't forget why rye were taken off right and 82 83 was mass and then it was the right band with the right songs with the right voice at the right time and there you go right they i wouldn't say they rolled the wave but i said they broke out they broke out big time now yeah they don't think they wrote any wave because it really it was still it was it was half like you suggest it was happening really started to happen around like you said 82 was screaming for vengeance number of the beast all that you know scorpions blackout all that stuff and you know a lot of the metal bands were really starting to make a serious headway and play the arenas and all that stuff and and they definitely jumped on that which is great which is great like you said great timing but it all starts and stops with you've got to have the songs and you've got to have that's right singer get you know and they have all it was just again i think it was a great timing thing for them you know and the the EP was the catalyst for all of that but the warning to me you know without the EP they don't have anything but the warning to me took it to the next level the songs in my opinion are more mature they're just it's just a great dark heavy record dynamic record and it's you know it's it's Sean when you think about this album okay and you think about europe and power metal in a way this is kind of like iron maiden and queens right we're the blueprint of the whole european power metal scene and even the us power metal scene i i'm trying to think is there any other band in 82 maybe riot but they weren't power metal yet right right yeah right they weren't power metal yet they were still like no they had they had read the forest around around that time you know that's right that was not power that's not power metal at that point at all but for us for the us right i think they were the blueprint for us power metals because i think crimson glory was after they were oh yeah crimson glory crimson glory was four or five years after that yeah the first record i think the lady seven if i if memory serves i don't think the first crimson glory didn't come out to lady seven ish i think only deal would compete but even deal wasn't the same sound i find another dragon you gotta remember as you know there was no quote unquote power metal back then there all these stupid terms came into play later right you know did we all three of us know you know we don't say oh we drank it's metal dude there's there was rocks hard rock and there was metal at that time right all these other general tone we'll always win the metal brand but you know what i mean you know we didn't have those tags back then and i to me that's it's still quite silly in a way with a lot of that stuff because it's very to me it's very limiting right because when you say well what do they sell it what kind of music but oh they're power metal and great if you don't like power metal they suck i might even listen to them it's like instead of saying yeah dude they're a good metal band check them out and then you have a little bit more of an open mind like we did now it's just like oh they suck because they're this are they stuck because they're they're symphonic death chord but whatever you know what i mean i find it really it's humorous but at the same time it's very sad in my opinion because you're a lot of times people won't even give you a chance based on what someone else categorizes that band right it's just it's the way of the world and whatever but back then yeah yeah back then there was no there was no power metal but you know like you guys suggest that was definitely a precursor to what would become the halloween's and all that you know the strativarius and all those other you know great uh power metal bands that came later certainly the queens right gp would have to be a reference point for that i would i would think frank frank potvin makes a good point agent steel warlord uh i don't know what was was agent steel i think it was they were 83 i don't know if they were 82 i could be wrong please correct me omen no way omen was not a power metal band now there are more there were a new wave of british heavy metal yeah absolutely yeah they're more of a new album band for sure yeah i mean you can again you can argue that fact now right four years yeah that song is no but you know the sound on this album i don't think you you you didn't hear this specific sound anywhere else maybe her parts of it this is not judas priest in my opinion aron main has always been galloping dual guitar harmonies bruce kind of sang in the same register as jeff tate but jeff tate was doing these gymnastics that bruce dickinson wasn't doing he was going all the way low to all the way high so bruce was powered but what i take away is you know back in that time you had the west coast right the quiet riot the motley cruise the docking the rats and then you had the new york scene right with the perhaps man award twist the sister deathly riot when they weren't bankrupt uh and and then queens right comes along from seattle and you're like well i always linked them more towards the the british scene at that time than what was happening the american yep absolutely if you didn't tell if you didn't say where they were from then you could have sold there definitely from england or they're from germany or from you know what i mean they sound you're in my opinion i agree they sounded very european those certainly those first two records you know they're from belview washington for me they just came out of nowhere you know what i mean again it's just i think it's a matter of right place at the right time right guys in the band it just all is just just a real tiny thing but again it all starts and ends with if the songs that aren't there and the musicians aren't there we wouldn't be here right now talking about it 42 years later and it took them a while to the four the four guys that find a singer and when they finally did he was non-committed and then he when he heard oh you got a contract well maybe i'll you got some studio time i'll jump on board and then the rest of they say is history so yeah you know a funny fact or fun fact i should say is the prophecy or a lot of people think that the prophecy was actually on the original EP which alan was holding up before prophecy was just added on in 1986 this is a song that they were playing in there between the EP and the warning era they're playing it they're performing i think live in tokyo 84 they actually played that song however it was not an this album it was only on the re-release in 1986 and then again this way i think was the 1990 version when the whole all the you know the live tracks and all that so this is like the remaster the remaster but yes the prophecy was not on the original EP a lot of people think it was it was a song from that era but it was never on the original one so here's here's a question for you both you may or may not know this actually i'm not sure as well is what at what point did they record prophecy was it during the warning sessions or was it during the rage for order sessions rage for order they recorded the prophecy yep that's correct you can tell by the production you can tell by the production of a song if you're if you're prone to it's interesting because the production sounds like the warning but the song structure sounds more like sorry the song production sounds like rage rage rage rage rage for order sounds like rage for order but the song itself sounds like it would have belonged on the EP or the warning correct yeah and it was written by Lisa great song it's a great song you know i'm glad that they i'm glad that they were smart enough to record it and and put it on the re-release because it's it's a great song so interesting also during their EP they're playing the EP and the warning right they will be including the prophecy as part of the EP on their set so they're yeah they they they should because it's a great song yep you know so and a lot of people like you said a lot of people don't have the original four song EP on vinyl they don't have it they think that prophecy is has always been on it and that's not true but so it's a great thing that they are playing it yeah Holland's got the EMI version only four only four Holland's got the EMI version you got the the second pressing well maybe the first pressing with EMI not the first pressing with EMI yes yes but uh i love seeing this this album is going like used for like 30 or 40 bucks now in the used record store so that's that's nice to see on a three dollar investment so yep yeah you just you just uh you just need what a thousand percent profit if you still have that yeah but like my friends always joke yeah but you're not getting rid of them we'll bury your albums with you so uh when you die so no matter what it's worth it's staying here guys another fun fact uh Jeff Tate only wrote the lyrics to The Lady Were Black that was the only his only contribution of course the vocals right on the other songs but you know his only contribution was the lyrics to The Lady Were Black but it it's a testament to Jeff that's a great dynamic song and that could have been on the warning also right and we had the the pleasure of interviewing Jeff numerous times meeting him like the time when you couldn't get the camera work yeah yeah that was a classic but always a gentleman always a super nice guy i mean i and again even you know Todd's always had a good relationship to me was telling us he's got nothing against Jeff and hopefully it's vice versa i think they've did that's that's a settled a long time ago and uh and you know we've had nothing of a nice thing to say about Jeff Tate i mean he's always been a big help for us here at the metal boys so yeah i mean you know what and and i even Todd you know he fell in love with the band like we fell in love with the band right and he's an extension now to the band he's you know the continuation of the band and i think going to see the EP and all of the warning i think it's it's probably one of the the best shows of 2024 for me and seeing armored saint armored saint what a bonus absolutely absolutely shot are they passing by atlanta or they already passed by there yeah no they did not they're coming out in uh early may okay all right they're one of the last thoughts in the tour before they they finished down in florida memory serves i think they have three or four shows of florida that's where they're gonna end the tour so yeah they come they're dropping by atlanta uh right before that so yeah i mean three canadian dates there's torano on the 19th right so go get your tickets now much all sold out you got to go to scalpers or something i don't know what you got to do and uh kitchener canada the uh the home of helix is helix there alan kitchener right helix is there are they from are they from london kitchener or london ontario i think you're in london's pretty close aren't they yeah i thought it was london this is when we interviewed him he was in london i don't his house was in or maybe kitchener is razor i think uh yeah yeah kitchener is razor there's some bands kitchener is uh kitchener is razor razor i think london london is uh is west of toronto right going towards uh yes yes yeah i think i think it's i'm not a hundred percent sure but i think that uh a volumers is from london ontario i think i think i think that's where he is now i don't that's definitely where he's he's at he's he's he was in florida phase in his career he's got a house down he's got a place down in florida too i think he bounces back and forth yeah good for him yeah all right guys i think all right i'll let me read out the dates one last time and i'll wrap it up we'll wrap it up for most ron sad says ron sad here see you there jim it was ron sad who's actually texting me that i think he played me this ep before i actually went to get it so ron hats off to you april 10th illinois april 12th indianapolis april 13th kalamazoo the zoo you know like the scorpions okay uh detroit april 14th april 16th cincinnati april 17th greeblen toronto 19th montreal sold out 20th 21st kitchener uh mckees rocks pennsylvania i don't know where that is but i guess it's somewhere albany new york close to montreal too warchester massachusetts that's massachusetts warchester rooster rooster rooster rooster rooster like rooster i'll kill you if you say it that way down there they'll find you kill you if you mispronounce those words up there yeah new haven connecticut seraville seraville new jersey seraville yeah seraville yeah and glenside pennsylvania and that's it guys all right razor was formed in guelph but very healthy metal seen here in kichner water religion so frank you're in kichner i think you're in kichner you got to go see uh queens rake guys thank you very much shon hey shon withering scorn withering scorn well you know the plug you'll be hearing more about that later on we'll uh we can reconvene in a later date about all that stuff we will we will thank you for having always you guys to do the warning we'll have to do the warning next oh we're gonna do the full the full version of the warning but not yet a bad song not a bad song in that album that album's perfect we'll start to finish yeah flat out all right all right it's a pleasure shon thanks shon thanks so much