 Well, maybe you won't you Ready the same thing, but it's a woman who has to walk around and just brawl in our panties. Oh, that would be changed on the time Probably try and make the the female predators really sexy. Oh, yeah Yeah, just something exotic my predators Yeah Maybe maybe her the you know their mouths have like that that weird mandible Maybe your vaginas are like that too where they have like little little arm things down there to hold the penis when it's it Who knows? It's it's aliens. We could call them sexual predators. No way. Oh my goodness I can do it All righty, so today's game of the game is super monkey ball Mocker y'all have a play monkey ball. I Don't think I ever played it. I think I've watched a fucking of speed runs of it though Pretty sure when you do like really crazy shit with the movement of the platforms It was like ding ding ding ding and then they're in the goal like oh, okay My god so many options. You can do a stereo or mono sound Damn, yeah Do you remember what this Heart with fire on top does oh with fire on top No Dang it gives you it gives you the burning lines. Oh, no The burning loins you say Alrighty so While I play through this little game was like pinball or pebble must not really like pebbles like it's like marble blast But not now pebble is a good game. Why didn't they make more pebbles? What happened a monthly pebble today did they get like removed? Did what did they do do they do evil did the company go down what happened I do not know I think pop-cap is who made pebble. I can't imagine they went down They make a shit ton of mobile games and stuff like that. You'd think they would have released just Fuck it was an update of the game for you know the modern times Well, they did do a pebble to didn't they all did they I I don't know. I'm not even sure I wouldn't be surprised if they did I can check on steam Purgle we have a good pebble deluxe pebble nights and pebble pack Which I I guess pebble packed is all the pebbles. I'm pretty sure that's pebble deluxe and pebble nights I don't know it is seven. It's on sale right now. The pebble pack bundle is the seven dollars fifty cents Look guys. I just got like an error for dolphin for this game if it doesn't work or it freezes I'm gonna go to Luigi's mansion. Okay I'm willing to play a game where I'm a ball. I swear Are homing shots any good with brimstone. No At least not with the maybe with normal brimstone, but not with a zazel's one. It's more damage though They're both pretty good you get ready for the work or not I think I'll have to look into I might actually just end up getting the resume before on Gamecube I might end up making it easier. I'm not sure So the It won't be as preferable, but that is okay As they go backwards. No, I haven't watched invincible yet. Wow, not a true anime fan You haven't watched it. I'm not a true anime fan Female reproductive mandibles. Yeah, that's a great way to start the stream. I'd say Anybody who's like just tuned in they listen to the beginning. They're like, yeah reproductive mandibles Yeah, I mean I would I'd do that. I give that a try. Give it a go. As long as they didn't have like teeth or anything on them Give it a go My winning mom Don't really know this game is a little chaotic. Also, is it is it? I don't know that we're collecting bananas as monkeys I feel like that's a it's a stereotype. I don't know. Oh, no Did you guys ever get road rage IRL? Uh since I don't drive rags. We have a been road ragey No, I don't think so. I can't think of a time where that's ever have never come across another driver Who's really stupid and been like, oh, it's stupid. Sure, but not like road Ragey like that well Well you drive all the time what give us your road rage stories See anger anger for the German I Learned from Jay Longburn that Mola is the big way way That's fucked up. There's some kind of variation Geez, I mean it killed myself Amos louder than voice how did that happen? Oh, is that about my stream or your stream? That's my stream, but I know how because everything is like on one for me. I don't know this game Is kind of loud? I missed a bananae I'm a terrible monkey. I think I think it's like Super low like I don't know. Oh Everyone else says lies. It's not for me. Okay. Well, uh I see um You do Yeah, I mean big way. Why not? I don't see why I'm not gonna give up that title Seems like a cool one. I might have powers with it. I don't know get the bananae Okay, there we go Goal Um, I started playing resident evil 4 also high rags Hi there Yeah, I think rags would approve of resident evil 4 from what I understand Yeah, good stuff. Oh My god, the bananas move with the platforms What is this next gen video gaming? Larks Guys this is all spooky It doesn't feel safe Spooky. Yeah, she apparently your chat is not on screen. I haven't checked myself with someone just they're right. It's not how strange You idiot. It's not by fault. I swear Fix it gonna mom god damn it. You have to do what happens Hey, look, uh I think that you're mistaken because chat is totally working if you Uh Have your eyes turn to it in just a moment. It'll be right there And and nothing was ever wrong. Nope See see this is another benefit of just being in my chat. You can just fix mupless chat That's it's crazy. It's like all all I fell off a cliff because of you Why me? Feels bad now It has not been my fault. I do not accept this What are you Italian? I'm sorry. That was so offensive I don't like this level as soon as I'm gonna die That's a lot of explodey flies. Holy ball sack of runes Hey, everyone glad to see you're playing this classic thinking of buying the first volume of berserk and giving it a try A memory of kintaro mura Um, yeah from what I hear it's a lot of fun Uh, the whole set And it's a shame he won't be able to finish himself Um I crew this week has been a mixed bag yesterday. I I killed myself. Fuck yesterday. I graduated But this week. I also lost my cat. I'm one of my favorite authors kintaro mura I'm assuming that is going to be passed away. Um Well, that sucks life often Brings a lot of this shit all at the same time I Cannot do this level. I think I'm about to like fail the whole thing I don't think I need the mollusk if a monkey ball race It would be embarrassing. We shouldn't Well, I did it again. All right, this my first attempt was the best one. This is dark souls I have received a bunch of play points though Wait, what happens if I continue do I get do it? Is there a is there a penalty or? A penalty Penalty look guys We've got to get every banana on this stage now to to claw back the pride of being defeated by the benes Oh Benes Uh jay long was doing a stream and one of the videos was talking about queer coding and their example lined up with mohler I'm queer coded I'm not even sure if that means I have powers, but I'll take it. Oh Uh, there's some people I'm sure you don't think so. The host my fire laser. That's the important bit I don't necessarily put to a chat over youtube chat so I can use proper emotes true The youtube is where all the cool people are so Oh, look at that guys. We did the whole thing this time You did it Goal one gay wins I for um Hey, muesli far from home of four or five winter soldier poopy and then okay, so from what I understand It's probably better that you guys have to wait for the for the number ratings slash ratings in general for the Conversation that that makes more sense. So let's just say Uh Get excited I suppose. I feel like I shouldn't say anything He's gonna be fun Um Started playing mass effect. Do y'all like it? Hi rags Hi, yes Yeah, I mean I'm fringing and rags a big big old fan arenas of it me and mel haven't played it. I think I played one and two way back when it came out Nobody and I remember liking it, but I don't remember anything about it. Oh damn Yeah, I just thought you hadn't played it at all because you just never talk about it Well, that's why you're a bad friend. No, that just means you're a dispassionate monk a law could be a better friend Though in all fairness, I think everyone could be a better friend. I was like not me Yeah, rags pretty cool. Okay. Yeah, because I'm the best friend. I'm just like fuck y'all rags Your exception that proves the rule. Okay That's what they say I could not be a better friend. I would I just won't I won't do it I guess I want to out of principle I won't I'm fine is this Oh, there we go Um, oh my god, my childhood fave a lot of people requested I play this since it is on the gamma cube And people like it a lot. I think it's neat And there's plenty to do I think like collect bananas Oh my goodness gracious. It's rags It is me. Hello, and that weird German guy who's terrible at video games. Also. Hi wambo. Hello I heard that. Fuck you. You're nothing. Yeah, you're nothing I heard add to all the things So wait, I have done something I don't think I've unlocked anything though super monkey ball staff Is this the credits? Oh, no, can I get points in the credits? Oh, I can Oh, is that losing the bananas? I got to avoid the lesses. I see Oh, this is nice. Nintendo like to make interactive credits and that is neat You know, I give them three points for that I'm glad they're not copyright striking you being interactive with their credits. All right. Yeah So I keep losing all of my binaries Oh Guys, I think I've frozen super monkey ball. I'm so sorry I told you not to do that We are we are dangerously close to Luigi's mansion Okay video game All right Just come down Okay, let's stop now Oh god won't exit Please be health tear stone fuck Oh, no frozen monkey balls are painful frozen monkey Okay reboot Time has come to a stop. I know Okay, a little bit unreliable sovis I think I only have one half heart left and I don't like it I only have one heart Left left Can I say can I say left like yeah, I can't yeah I only have one heart left Uh watched army of the dead. It was the worst zombie movie I've ever seen. It's also the worst movie snider ever did. Oh, that's Why I listen I'm So it's not that I don't believe you But have you seen his other films? It might it might be that's the thing I could totally believe that this is the worst zombie movie ever made It's certainly definitely maybe could be We shall see I suppose. Uh, hello all just finished watching you guys play dark pictures little hope had so much fun watching Y'all played did you enjoy it as much as I did? No No, no You know that game fucking sucks. That was one of the worst games I've ever played It actually is it almost it skirts the line as to what canon cannot be called a video game Yep What what a gigantic load of horseshit Yeah, yeah, can't wait for the next one. I can't wait Rags tell james how wrong he is about the mass effect trilogy in your smug doggo fashion James who's james well james more Or another james. I didn't know if that's the james we're talking about Um, I'm guessing. I don't know. I don't I don't really care all that much I haven't played them in so long I don't even know what his take is. Maybe it's a good take Maybe he doesn't think they're good, but I don't I don't know about that I don't know. I don't know what his Thing is though, so Yeah Mel you must be aware of this mysterious mass effect take right I probably mentioned it a bunch in my chat, but I already forgot. I'm sorry damn I think he likes one of the others more Andromeda's yeah I hope not. No, no, no I don't know this is impossible Are you any of the other messes except with victoria 3? I I never played a single one of those games. So not really Oh, no, I'm gonna have to do the spooky hard level again Do do do Hello there. Hi rags. Hi How did I Just watch tonal's incredible story and efap 100 genuinely shed a tear. What a wonderful humer god Yeah, man. That's uh, what's some good times? That's almost a year ago that happened now Jesus Yeah, hard to believe time moves fierce. I'm having fun Um all this great media, you know, we're just having a great time. Yeah So I'm in a bit of sweet mood looking forward to the next phase and read the damn masterpiece berserk Oh, read the damn sps berserk you massives my man literally drew pixel by pixel. Wow Yeah, I saw some of the of the oddworks. They're pretty pretty darn impressive. I only hear good things about it Which is cool And I died. Uh-huh. I didn't I'm a monkey One banana left One banana two banana three banana What a broad a broad what a broad a Bruton What about the yeah, yes, that's a Bruton Uh, there you go But either you or rags played near replicant. I would highly recommend it if you haven't I wouldn't like it. I have not Maybe actually that's not true. You might like to come back to common is pretty fun Do I have to put up with a bunch of weeb shit in between the comeback? It's not as bad as other games, but basically yes There is a twinge of weeb. Yes You know some say there's a twinge of weeb in Resident Evil. So maybe some weeb is okay A little yeah, I guess there's just a tiny little A sprinkling of weeb Sprinkling Uh Just watch the new modoc Marvel show. It's not very good But surprisingly not woke like most MCU stuff these days also high rags. Ooh Hi Um, I don't even know what that show is. Well, I think I've heard that it was a thing Wait, what show modoc Uh, no first one. I don't know. I got nothing for that It only took two and a half years, but I finally started watching Buffy I hope you're happy now sir. Mr. Sir of house long Well, uh Just let me know how the story ends. Did you give up on it because it was too cringe? Or did you watch it through to the end and Maybe feel a few things. Remember Buffy and Angel, all right Yeah, let's go. There's no skipping one for the other Oh Uh I've seen all of his movies, but even the first 10 minutes was enough to convince me that this abomination is the worst Holy moly. Oh, wow, that must be pretty bad. I kind of want to see it now. Oh, that's a ball string Actually, it's a zombie movie. It's so easy to do I wonder if it's worse than the winter soldier Here's my birthday. Well, happy birthday. Happy flamboyantons. Yeah, I hope you're having a good one Uh I'm still pretty devastated even though I know it's dumb to me It would be like if Tolkien died before return to the king He had such a huge influence on my adult life. That was the second half of the early one. Yeah, I uh I follow I um This is this is a pretty significant blow to a lot of people. Oh, fuck Maybe I should skip the bananas on this one Not a phrase you get to hear often Um, but yeah, I uh from what I understand he's he's left some notes So you guys should be able to get an ending that approximates what he would have wanted so Hopefully it's hopefully it's good. I guess maybe maybe it will be um Did you ever notice sometimes there are too many bananas but not enough coconuts some african guy Well, I don't get it was a reference I thought that was a weird sex thing I mean, I'm not a gangster if it is, you know, everybody's entitled to their own preferences Ah, yes, you open a chest for the key just to get another key Oh, no, we crashed again. Um, I'm right back where I've started Just like a damn fiddle. Also, don't worry about seeing two minute of dark fate as a background I just needed the color Because I had to fill in the sides But um, yeah, that just crashed the whole program. So now I'm gonna have to try a different back end If it doesn't work I am going to resort to luigi's mansion. I'm so sorry for that, but there's nothing I can do lu gizm Oh, yeah Gizm matizms. Yes I wonder how many times we're gonna have to play this opening level of fucking super monkey ball Uh, curious, but what are you mubstlin rax thoughts on a zombie genre? I so love the zamp the zambloid apocalypse, but they're very overdone and samey They can be Yeah, I I really like the the idea the concept of fitting off zombies But I feel like it's always really just not quite done as well as it could be. It's very difficult There's some I like I really like 28 days later um They're you know, there's good stuff out there. I like zombie games There's plenty of zombie games or zombie-esque games that I enjoy Yeah I mean zombies was where we were at Um before superheroes took everything, I think right Everyone's doing zombies All right, we're on a different back end now, so we might get different results Hopefully it just doesn't break it all but if it does guys, you know, luigi. He's just looking at me He's giving me the luge luigi luigi Zombal and zombie land one was great Yeah, what is a weird one for me maybe the first time I watched it I really liked it and then I rewatched it and I couldn't get into it I was like, I don't like this for some reason sure bothered me so much about it And this was definitely something that shouldn't have annoyed me so much because I wasn't even like I'm certainly not a gun person, but The main character's primary weapon to carry around with him in the zombie apocalypse constantly is a double barrel shotgun And like I kept thinking man if a group of like five come at you and you get two Then you just got to run like if only you had three well, I go to five There's three coming after you then so I said five because you could manage to kill the three with two shots if you Get it if you get them in bottleneck. So I don't think so Well, there's only I think people I think people seriously So a shotgun has basically there's shotguns don't penetrate really It's one of the reasons they're great for things like home defense. Oh, I was picturing a scatter not like a slug And the second thing I was going to say is people really overestimate how much spread a shotgun has Yeah, but you I'm assuming the user would know this like and can take advantage of it Uh So it's not necessarily about taking advantage because that won't change the property of the shotgun itself Um, like you have to aim with shotguns down the sights and everything Shotgun I have is a ghost ring site. It's you just got to you have to aim And at the point where they spread out so far that it can hit two zombies I am very very skeptical of its ability to kill a zombie reliably Well, then maybe it will but I now yeah, I personally if if the zombie apocalypse happens I would not if I I would I would not use a shotgun myself if they're now there if there was someone See how yeah, I just I wouldn't use a shotgun If I did it would be it would be my hawk 982, which is a 12 gauge pump action Um And it's tube fed So but I wouldn't use a double barrel Um So anyway, I said five just to make sure right so because it's a very good chance It's gonna be big groups. So there's a pot in the movie. I think it's near the end Like he's he's just like ambushed by a couple zombies He shoots his fucking gun twice and then he's like, oh no and just starts running and he's panicking And I was just like that was always gonna happen Don't know why yeah Why was the aspect of if you're gonna see and depends if they're fast or slow zombies I typically imagine if somewhere in the middle like they're not coordinated enough to like super sprint But they're gonna like be they're gonna jog after you jaw You know if it's at the point where you have to fight too many it's just you just need to Maybe leave and I guess it depends on how intelligent they are because they're super. I bet they'd be super exploitable Like can they unlock a door or things like that? You know how intelligent would they be you depend? but Yeah, double world shotgun would not be my first uh, it wouldn't be my first choice Also, I've already got the freeze warning on this back end. So it's not looking good monkey ball I love you, but You know, I and it sucks because I'm kind of having fun with this. You know, so it's a fun little game Yeah, I'm not allowed to play it because my pc says no Oh We are away I implore anyone to give berserker shot it has some problems But it is so influential in dark fantasy and don't wait to create the thing you've always wanted to make You don't know how much longer you'll be here Uh, yeah, yeah, I think you could definitely take that away from this event Uh, did you ever notice? Oh wait, I read that Uh best slash worst superhero costume in movie you've seen Superhero costume? Uh, there's a lot of good mcu games I miss read Best costume for a superhero. Um Assuming it has to be an actual costume not just a um, like clothes Uh, presumably yeah So I think I really don't like captain falcons in the windows whole show But I doubt that's gonna be comparable to whatever the worst ends up being No He adjusted a big dumbo Did you know I picked up the satanic bible in Isaac. It's like oh plus one black heart. I looked it up But I misread it. It's plus one black heart when you use it And now like half a heart left. So I just picked it up and died immediately. Oh, no Oh The anti-movey satanic bible. Oh, definitely I'm just saying the man makes some good points Orgasmo cap one in event cap and avengers one is worst. Yeah, that's probably the worst of all of his I'm sure what was going on with that. They get pretty good over time though. Yeah I think they get pretty good. Uh, it's not even civil war. He looks pretty awesome Uh, iron man looks better more often than not I'd say for the most part I think I like his career iteration better. It looks more like plady Not oh definitely in smooth. Yeah, his best look might actually be I'm at one I think I might be inclined to agree Because he just yeah, he looks like you hear the word iron man and there's there's almost a A quasi primitive aspect to it a club where it's just a bunch of yeah, like a steampunky almost sort of vibe Um, yeah, so you can see the rivets and stuff a hyper advanced one in Infinity war and and games stuff just a little bit kind of lame They're fine. Yeah Yeah You know, there's a lot of like as for best ones. It's like yeah, iron man. It's like I guess um, I thought that the um The the suit that batman's built to take on Superman looked cool But I know a lot of people have different opinions on that one I'm I'm easily a sucker for just cool-looking stuff But cool can be anything Even me Who can be anything let's roll it back. Let's not go nuts oh man There's two hidden rooms in the first floor and I haven't gotten a single bomb This is very upsetting So if I were able to skip the credits, maybe I wouldn't freeze can I do that or do I have to play them? Oh, you're not cool metal go I can't even pause this part of the game. Gosh, this is again Dark Souls. Oh, so many letters That is oh man, you're stealing all my bananas The nerve Bastard, we'll be fucked up. I'm not gonna lie Question you and the hosts of e-fap. Oh, here we go Why is it wrong to be overly villainous for the sake of power and control? Supposedly it's done right and well written Do all villains need to have deep tragic background and complex story behind them? Oh, there are just some people who are terrible for that lust for power and control of a life Stalin comes to mind for that I'm sure I was more complicated than like the emperor Palpatine, I mean yeah And power for its own sake isn't a terrible motivation Because it like when people say oh, they just want power, but why it's it's sort of a self-answering question Powers a pathway to all kinds of different things No control and it could be for all kinds of different reasons to that character Um I mean you can have villains who don't even have motivations. They're just evil like evil creatures evil Uh, whether they're tyrannids or scathing or they're they're just evil They're they have chaotic natures or they're born of black magic or they're zambies or something like that But they were talking character wise Um, as long as it makes sense. I'm generally going to be okay with it. Um But yeah, I'm fine for a villain who just wants to be more powerful and who wants more control Especially if they're extremely If their personality is to be domineering and they want to control And it could you can have all kinds of very different Um Reasons for why they want power But you don't have to overthink it. It's just better to have something Than nothing generally unless it's bad You know just avoid Contradictions don't make them don't make them stupid That's another one Yeah, stupid villains are Far more common than I'd like I finally finished Buffy enjoyed season one to two despite the flaws season four is a personal favorite But season six is objectively the best All right, so I agree with you on the last bit, but personal favorites number four. Damn. I do not hear that from like anybody Um, a lot of people put season two above season four, but you know, I like to hear it because I'm a fan of season four I think it's almost Underrated by a lot of people The true Buffy heart take how long are these credits? Did they think about this when making this? No, like yeah, I mean it's fun with the bananas, but I don't know You'll get there eventually. I'm all a rags moodle. Sheffirla says several bad takes He has a series called why bojack horseman is the best thing that ever happened Oh, no, um, that's fine for him To say that his that's cute He he made an okay impression when we first covered him like two years ago, but uh That last video cover of his first year. Was it tlj? I think He probably thinks that's good I think his video was like being critical of endgame while saying that tlj did something that endgame tried to do But better I think that was the video and we ended up like agreeing with some stuff Conquering but now though Um, but that falcon the winter soldier one was amazing That was really bad It's highly amazing Oh There we go. The best thing that ever happens. I prefer food though. Who's pretty cool. I will say that I'm more an oxygen dog myself Pro boss is monkey. What the fuck does that mean? Robossus monkey That one he's a villain because he is he is not returned. He is embraced modernity. He has rejected monkey He jumped into space monkey Enter your name. Whoa You ready? Wait, how do I Oh, that's an interesting way to do that. How much time do I have? Oh, it's 60 seconds. Okay This is I think this is a pretty neat and creative thing to do it would have taken a while Oh, we got an m Oh No, not p Holy shit. Those were four bad pills In one room Wow, that's pretty impressive um This is a community service reminder by the way for people who are new to mass fact here never play mass effect andromeda ever I would say avoid that one Oh fair enough We survived the credit sequence. Maybe this game is long for this world I'm gonna play as gone gone Gone gone. He's my favorite. He's my favorite the monkey Um, yeah, it was about me. I say mass fact one is the best and they drop off slowly afterwards You and fringy have said the trilogy was an eight out of ten ish I say nah and then you said I don't give a fuck what james thinks lol Well, maybe that debate will happen sometime in the near century um Mura's passing is sad, but it's heartening to see people celebrate his incredible work and legacy inspired so much Remember molla. We wouldn't have gotten the souls born games as we know them without berserk true uh A lot of the art would have been very different Does that mean that dark souls 2 is berserk's fault? Well, no Lucky it's that game's mechanics that are the problem If minus an award which you expect wait other pills connected to the luck stat. I didn't even know that You didn't know that I didn't know you know that Yeah, well, there you go. Yeah Well, that would explain why you got four bad pills in a row Ashtag my face is tired I I always thought they just get randomized every run Is your idiot? Probably thought the same thing So you're you're playing the idea of isek now Yes What i'm doing now as i'm playing risk of rain 2 and i'm trying to beat the game with the artifact of glass What does that do want to tell you you do you do 500 more damage, but you only have 10 health Oh damn, so i'm giving that a run I hope you live Me too Try and some stretch your teas out Monsoon of course, it's gotta be a proper game difficulty This game feels dangerous like I could fall off at any moment I think you can actually An 11 hour podcast hating on women for having pepinion is the lowest of the low you need to touch some grass Oh, we can go lower could have had a revolution But instead you cashed in don't care if I make false assumptions your critiques are poor hashtag molar is hypocrite Damn it How did they find us out? I didn't such a thing. I won. Yes Wait, what's a banger? Risk of rain two. Yeah, we aren't good pretty good How much do I care about bananas? Well, are you a monkey things? I've gotten a lot, but like I have I have 27 28 Not only like two that's like one on like an hour's worth of bananas So how many bananas before I can sort of like be like, okay. I have enough Um, how many bananas and so do you play as a monkey in super monkey ball or do you play as a ball? I think I'm currently a gorilla Oh, oh, like so like a great ape. I believe so. He's called gone gone humans are one of the great. Oh really is he gone gone? Yeah Where did he go? I don't know man. I'm kind of sad to think about That'll try to quit mode run They don't have that in the banana game I mean, I'm complaining I'm played a great run in forever I'll probably fail hardcore. It's gonna be fun. If you don't mind me asking. What is super jack catch up? Um currently right now. Yes, you made it. You did it. What's a high five? I got some incredible timing This is some there's some monkey ball in the background. Uh, I'm current. Oh balls I'm currently keeping uh keeping up with today's ones while also doing um I'm interjecting stream labs ones and I'll let you know as soon as we complete any sections I'm dead again. I think I think I've been killing myself a little too much in this game Gone gone died This is seed one trope I hate an anime when the villain is smart and competent and has Put the perfect plan to dominate everything just right then the hero comes in We've come try plot supplies and destroy the villain in the end Feel sorry for the villain all that planning years of academy training waste Hey, I can just do this Oh gone gone. Come on, buddy believe in you Who trapped these creatures in these bowls by the way? Yeah Oh, I'm I'm misunderstanding this level completely Uh, it wasn't just the art of doc cells the majority of the characters and even the title of the series is straight up taken from My god Well, that's neat. I think it just goes up and down on a little timer thing, right? That was happening I got little chad little chub No, no We can just get to the goal straight away. I'm not going to worry about the bananas on this one I don't have any play points. Oh Uh net of your hood of your takes back when it came out But what did you think of the story of red dead redemption 2 replaying it now? Well, if only Fringy can answer because I don't know I didn't play it. I played the story Oh my god, gone gone. Where you going? the dank depths Uh, have you guys seen the bad batch yet first episode wasn't bad. Still a few tisms though Transition to empire from the clone's perspective is cool. Um All I know about bad batch is apparently freddy prince jr. Plays like a fucking 10 year old in it And he hasn't changed his voice at all So it's just this fucking late 40s year old man playing a 10 year old And why? I don't like I was so confused. I didn't know like chat. Is this a thing or am I am I misrepresenting? He's he's hilarious. He like he played the character in a different show when he was older But now he's playing like the younger version of him, but they didn't do anything to his voice It says efab gaming by the way, I don't know if it's mistake or not Oh, yeah, but because it's the first time I played super monkey ball So if I go kind of like a showcase, but we'll also do super chest the same time So a lot of people are saying yes and spot on Apparently this is true. He did and it and I saw a clip of it and it was really funny I don't know why they okayed it. I guess it's because of the name Nobody's gonna care if he's old Let the artists have their vision Yeah with the artists have their vision early early puberty Yeah, we um, we have not seen the bad batch. I don't imagine that we will I hope it's good for you star war fans out there stars of the war Holy shit. That's starring a whole war Oh, damn. That's a lot of war news Will you guys play through all the halo games refab gaming before halo infinite comes out? Maybe no guarantee Oh, we cannot say for sure Hey fabcast. Hey rags mola. Hello. Howdy Uh, I remember when I first seen tlj I had such anger and such confusion to what I had watched in cinema I couldn't put it into words and then like a saint your videos appeared in my suggestions and did it for me I feel like I might have read that one out before but Fair enough, and I'm glad you had fun with it because Uh, a lot of people tend out to feel very similar This isn't fair. I can't collect these very easily because the floor is changing. I think they did this on purpose Someone actually complains like developers the the floor moves in this one. It makes it harder. Can you fix this? I'm running out of time for the bonus mission now My bananas No, no no no no Bonus finish Um, but yeah, we'd like to do halo at some point don't know when exactly absolutely. Yeah What is this 1.0 0.3? I guess I'll go with oh, is it how thin the railing is? Geez, this is terrifying So it's just like that scene after the red wedding where they cut robb's head off and put wool set instead and paraded his body Are you laughing at that? This just sounds funny as a concept When it's star wars Just a cut off head somewhere parading around you have an interesting view on humor Wait, why is that a lot over this? What am I supposed to do? Hurry up. No I don't think I was allowed to do that, but I did wait. What's happening. I think I'm stuck Up up bananas. Let's just go with the easy one. Shall we? I don't need bananas. I got loads That mission is scary. I don't like small things Or I am gorilla monkey Um into the gungeon is my current favorite roguelike followed closely by risk of rain too. Hope we get some new good ones soon Me too. I kind of like the genre. There's some cool stuff you could do with it Very broad It's all of the benene You're full. You think the mcu will ever achieve previous highs? No No No, you're like, well, you think this is like a chat, right? The mcu has probably behind us. Yeah I mean, it's not impossible if it happens. I'll be Shocked. I think it's only going to be happening with small projects being given to some random It's not going to happen on any of the bigger ones now Yeah Would you see it? What are you gonna do? I'm watching your france videos on youtube and getting angry at dnd again. Hopefully Elden Ring is cool, though Bottle, how many flunk what do you need to shave your beard? I'm just gonna shave my beard stop asking bastards Uh, would you recommend resnual village to someone with mummy issues? We definitely read that one out before So now I have to figure out where we are Oh, you know what? This that seems new if I told you that Thanos regretted using stones to kill half the universe And my references were the scene where he says to baby Gamora that it cost him everything And the fact that he destroyed the stones. What would you say? So he says that to a I assumed in reference to killing Gamora not into referencing Yeah Because that's right after he's done the snap Or you could even say it's as he does the snap so he wouldn't have time to regret it yet I don't know why he would be talking about everything else. Yeah, because like it seems that Gamora was the main thing He actually liked in the world This path is scary as well I hope it should be his tanky What the deflects bullets Um, you might be playing me trilogy. So I also suggest da origin since for me It's basically lord the rings of video games. It shows me it shows what the me ending could have been Also a high grand ragas. What is your thoughts on da? I really like dragon age origins dragon age two is all right, but dragon age origin span That's uh, that's quite a game Uh, I would definitely recommend it. It's tough Uh, probably takes a couple attempts to really sort of get it down. It's definitely a game that takes some learning But it's very rewarding and there are some great characters and some awesome writing Good stuff Wonderful God the sacrifices I make for bananas. Oh, am I dead? Don't I Try snack Oh an atom room was yeah, yeah And yeah, I'm um being a broke lights. You gotta try synthetic muffle. I don't think I've ever heard of it I think I've heard of it. I think I've heard it's good I have a big Interest in in the things that were mentioned. I might uh What would you recommend rags playing the mass effect trilogy first or dragon age origins? I'd say mass effect trilogy Well, dragon age origins is a game So you could probably complete that game faster than the mass effect trilogy And then move on I I would say though that uh dragon age origins is definitely more difficult Not max as a rago scene or trite eternal Returnal, I don't think you have a playstation 5 so No, I don't have From what I've seen it's like, uh, it's like rope lights With like a time loop thingy going on I think Uh Look, I don't know it looked kind of cool graphically like it's like, yeah, I don't know But playstation only so I don't know if I'll be able to play it Yeah, I'm not if it's not if it's not a pc I'm not playing it God damn. I hate this fucking bit. I guess I should just ignore the banana. That's probably the way to go Why can't I jump? I feel like I'm missing a jump option Do you think we'll be probably regret stepping up 75 of the universe? I don't think so. No No, you'll be doing it again soon enough. What did it cost? Nothing Why would you ask Got rid of the troglodytes that That's the stall. Why hallowade the moon base or something Uh, but yeah, you know I might play them in future as Dave Filoni climbs higher at lucasfilm Are you more optimistic for the future star wars? I'm hopeful for the future personally No, I don't know why you would think that we would think why Um, I guess if rags, what would you want to have to deal with another tlj or another mando season? Another mando season. Yeah, so I guess in a in a sense, we'll have Filoni Take over being a plus but my god That's where we're at. I guess it's way more fun to make fun of it's so terrible and Entertainingly terrible that I would much rather watch another mando Easily and plus there aren't any characters to ruin so That makes it safe. Yeah The action will all be stupid, but it always was anyway, so um Mass Effect is the game of thrones of gaming not the plot how the ending killed the entire franchise except at least Mass Effect was consistent until that point instead of a multi season collapse high rags and hello rags pure luscious snow Hello Love me some snow Yeah, when we talk about like the earlier examples of a lot of different things going horrible Uh, we often end up referencing Or a lot of people end up referencing uh mass effects one of the earlier ones of complete Other disappointments. I only remember hearing about it because I never played them Yeah Talking about how great mass effects ending is the third one specifically Yeah God I remember that because when I reached the ending it was about two or three a.m I played mass effect three for like 12 hours straight because I was having so much fun Yeah, it was really good all the payoffs and stuff with like tally and and the gaff and The corgans raks saying the shepherd would mean hero. Oh good stuff. So good So good and then and then the final The final like it's it wasn't even the final mission the final mission It did feel very it felt like a final mission But it did up to the end And then you get to the end section It's like literally the last 10 minutes of the game and at the finish at the at the finish line of the trilogy They're like, yeah, fuck you and everything you've done shit It's here's the thing it's It's the kind of ending where even if you could try and make arguments as to why it totally makes sense It is so insanely disappointing and stupid from just an audience perspective I am I am just I am just so shocked Why they decided to do it all they had to do was just tap it in it's all I had to do You're right there. You're just just just just tap it in and boom you sink it but Just give this is why when people say oh Oh, all they did was give the audience what they wanted to do. It's like I'll fucking take that At this point, I will gladly take them giving the audience what they want at the end As long as I mean I'd rather have that than what we got which is I only got the two choices. I didn't get all three I only got two to destroy and um and um and what was it control them and I did I um I only managed to save the geth So but I was like, oh, I'm destroying the reapers. It's like wait So does that mean like what does that mean for the the geth dead? And I remember I was like do I regret that choice? I'm like, I don't even understand that choice Like I don't even understand what's happened. Yeah A bizarre ending absolutely bizarre ending that I think that was like it froze again We're an ending like that just Just caught everyone off guard and everyone was like, what the fuck happened and you'd have to go talk to your friends the next day About like what like what actually what what the actual fuck was that? Did any of you guys understand that or is Like did I get did I get because all of the endings are the bad ending? Yeah, there's no good ending But well, yeah, because it's like all I don't I don't understand why these are our only choices. Why would you have a game that's about player choice and with three Choices that are the same And I always suck They all super undermine everything you do over a trilogy and your friends abandon you and fly off to another planet They can't really That because I think in all of the endings the mass relays are destroyed. Yeah, which means that the galaxy is doomed Yeah, you are stuck on your local system forever Yeah, there ain't enough resources on earth to support the population of earth let alone an entire fleet comprised of All the alien species in this universe I don't I just don't understand it and it's not just that aspect It's the whole it's like it takes out so much of the magic and thrill of the mass effect universe where It's almost like a a star trek star wars kind of You can go to all kinds of different crazy places and the galaxy is interconnected and all these races and species are doing All kinds of stuff and like that's gone now There's like all of that all the coolness of mass effect one when you're exploring this new world It's gone. It's done. It's all finished It's all for nothing. It's and it's never gonna happen again. Not only is it not not only is it gone. It's like never coming back Yeah, because they can't rebuild the relays like later on in that extended cut they're like, oh, we rebuilt them It's like no, you didn't no you didn't You did not Like it would take like everyone in the galaxy would have to Focus all of their attention on trying to come up with some kind of a thing And it would probably take hundreds of years. Maybe even begin to get it and it's just it's so depressing Yeah, it's like imagine star wars, but you're stuck on fucking tattooing where you were born and you can't ever go Anywhere and the universe is just shit. That's kind of it You're stuck where you are It's just lack of resources. Like, you know, you just it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. That's gonna be war But he's systems with all the different aliens who live there Um, oh, yeah, the all the stuff that you did all the like and there will never be a chance for you to see Like they can't do a sequel where in the future you see the effects of all the stuff shepherd Well, because you can't go they're doing a mass effect four. So I think they're just gonna Gonna come up with some bullshit reason. Well, yeah Well, shit, which honestly might just be the best thing to do is to just accept Liara what She's like the in the trailer you see liara and I think in the background you can see garrus Um, I'm not sure who the third person was so it's like a direct sequel I wouldn't I don't like that. I wouldn't I don't like the game is frozen on all three back ends I'm gonna have to play someone else. I'm so sorry guys Something uh-oh super monkey bowl was crashed again. Oh, no Yes, that's because you your favorite tool. I was that earlier I played them wanted to when they came out and I barely remember anything about them. So I tell you I'll play them again one day I don't know if ring was here I think someone asked a super chat about how in the extended or the enhanced What was it called the new ones that just came out the uh, the director's cut wasn't Anniversary edition the one that just came out of the three of them The it's like well the ones that just came out the remastered Someone asked should they have just redone the ending? I'm like, yeah, fuck it. Just do it Redo the endings. No one likes them. They're terrible And Bioware needs all of the good publicity that they could get as a company right now Do it. I'm shocked. They didn't change the endings kind of that seems like an obvious thing to do This is our this is our excuse to change mass effects canon essentially And they didn't take it Yeah, exactly because nobody like the most you do is annoy people that you didn't stick to I guess your guns or whatever But that's the most annoyed people would get instead You could just do a nice safe easy ending that opens up possibilities and says no actually everything was all right Which I'll take at this point. I remember um emotional catharsis I remember when that came out I specifically remember it was Cole Moriotti back when he was at IGN That he did a video where he was like People shouldn't be telling them to change the ending because this was their vision and they achieved it and um, I remember even at the time I was like, I feel like On on its face that seems really Agreeable and I'm like, but why why why does everybody feel so compelled to ask them to change the ending? And I think the reason why was because it's I don't think this was their creative vision. I I don't I think something happened Maybe um, well, maybe maybe it was that well was mass effect three's ending sort of I mean, I was that the full because now bioware now is just shit. So you wonder was that just Was the game basically done and they had that new bioware team sort of finish it off So I I feel like there are a few explanations, right? So the the first one would be that they ran out of time Uh, they just didn't they weren't given the time that they needed to actually do it And so with all of the other content that they had to develop they weren't in a position to develop an ending that was totally fully, you know Realized or then the other one, which I think is the more prevailing but a little more conspiratorial one is that the ending was written that way so that they could uh be open-ended for dlc and sequels Um, because there was a little prompt at the end. I remember like oh Shepherd story is done but continue the journey through like downloadable content. Um I'm not sure about that one. I don't feel like that story is done Yeah, I don't feel like that's true because if you want to keep this universe as something That's still alive and thriving and open for new content. That is not the ending you give it. No Um, so I guess the third one would be that that was their vision. Um, in which case it was just not a good one Yeah, um I don't know it seems I mean that's possible and the part of me that doesn't believe that is the fact that So much of the like the games were all really super solid until the very end. It's like a new It's like a totally different team Did the end I don't think there was a different team. I don't think it was either I mean, I guess it could be and they didn't say anything or I but It that's what's so bizarre about it. Is that it blindsided everybody? I guess I just I can't imagine that that was the planned ending all along. Um, yeah I don't think that could have been anything was a lot more ambitious than what we got I could see it the other way around Reasons that could be wrong the mess fact three ending that we got wasn't the ending that they wanted and the original ending was leaked So they changed it apparently Oh, well, that's double stupid Um I remember I saw somebody because I was watching before jumped on asking about for a different episode two story I remember really liking it, but it has been a while and I also kind of just prefer like the the tone of the first game The first game has more of that rock star snark and cynical sort of nature that I I like where it's just, you know observations about the world and like, you know politics, socio You know Social issues and stuff like that. It's just it's neat. I really like I really like the dry cynical tone of a lot of rock star games And uh, I know two is like more conventional um In a certain sense, even though it still has a lot of the uh, the good writing though I wonder now With future rock star games because dan hauser who wrote all of the games Like who wrote all of the rock star games is gone. He's not there anymore Um, so I don't know. I'm not sure what that means for like great. They've got a six or anything It's like when you have a series that for 20 years has had a very distinct voice and then that voice leaves You've got to wonder Yeah Lord of the Rings, what are your worst fears for the upcoming amazon tv show and what is the best video game Is inspired by the franchise All the standard worries Uh, honestly, uh racial identity politics Uh, one of the greatest things about Lord of the Rings was that it was about how Your race doesn't matter in a sense You have to cooperate and work together to defeat a common threat to everybody That no matter how who you are what your race is, you know, you're you're great and amazing But you have to team up. You got to work together. Everyone's got to come together, you know Um, there was an aspect of coming to understand other people's And there was very much a great deal of you know, it being You know mean to other races is very bad. Um So I'm I'm worried that that message will get super diluted or just flat out undone Uh by You know, it's current modern day politics And also a lot of modern stuff now has a super big issue with like just having like just Morality like people don't understand just basic moral stuff Heroes do things that are super villainous Villains do things that are often totally understandable and reasonable and they're vilified for it So I'm worried that they might do that with This show do you ever wonder if that's like An issue of just not thinking it through enough because often when I'm trying to figure out a story thread And there's something to do with the protagonist. I keep thinking like is this this is like good. Is this like a Does this this makes sense for like the the the theme that you want to hit So I would you know fair enough went to soldier. Were they sitting there like Hmm Does she actually have good goals because that's the the thing that they keep saying in interviews and stuff All right. Carly's goals, you know, they were good. It's like were they That's because you you say the word unity and that's just good unity is just good flat out It's flat out good, which means no borders. No nations one people. Well, that's kind of oh, that's really good That's super unity, right? And that's really really great. And then you're like, oh, well, wait a second You think about this for a couple seconds. How do we get no borders and one people? That means you have to destroy countries and like literally you have to erase cultures. I thought that was bad That's why we do the dichotomies of um, like a certain movie tried to address Security versus freedom. We like security. We like freedom. Wait a minute. They can fuck each other up Hmm You can't go all the way in one direction You can't go all the way in one direction. God, that was that was basically what Assassin's Creed used to be about used to be chaos Well, not chaos like pure freedom versus pure control and like that both people think that they're right So maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. It's an eternal struggle There is no end because there will always be people who disagree on this one But no, there is an end There is an end and I think that I think I don't give you talking about more Yeah, and I'm I'm trying not to say anything, right? So everyone can get excited for Saturday, but um, I would argue That maybe a certain movie has two sides to it that have basically said full of it or none of it And then the movie is like one of you was right It's like wait. No, neither of them were right And that's yeah, I think rags is right That's gonna be a huge problem that we can have to look forward to um, and then of course the just the standard stuff They they have storylines that are built on major contrivances and holes We're gonna get loads of it. We don't have really shitty characters that are just like yeah the plots Plots gonna be shit. I think the characters will be the worst part, uh, because character the plot in Lord of the Rings is totally fine Um, I wouldn't even I don't even know if I'd go and call it like a great plot I think it is But I but I think the characters are just like masterpiece level. There's so many levels um And but I wouldn't say what I said about plot a second ago. I don't think that's bad. I mean, I think that a good Tight solid plot is just excellent. Like it did just go for it. I have no issues whatsoever Uh, it's the characters that really really do the legwork and characters are like the worst thing these days that we see Characters are shit now. Well, it's what gave the emcee what success was this character work. That's what it was And it's just drawing it right now The characters are Breaking because of course DC didn't have that in their movies. No, I never had characters. They couldn't quite get that Well, I think that's right there it's gonna be full of Ludicrously and inexplicably strong female characters with no Reason or actual character too. You're not gonna have aowyns anymore. You're not gonna have a there are no There are no more aowyns everybody. You'll never get another aowyn because They just they people can't write characters anymore um You remember um In terminator two like when uh, when they first go to grab saracano from the mental institute and then like They jump into the elevator in the two one thousand start stabbing through Yeah, like just without saying anything. Saracano grabs the gun from uh, annie's annie's um, like Yeah, and starts firing it up and they don't make a big deal out of it. It's just like, oh, yeah This is saracano. This is saracano. This is what she'd do. She's she's she's great and here's why she's Unless you make a show of it more the more organic it feels it's just like oh, that's yeah So saracano is the kind of person who's just gonna what you don't think a woman can shoot a gun Yeah, it exactly. It's the whole thing of like I I didn't even I didn't even register that that was something that I was supposed to be thinking about Because this is a character She's just doing what characters do like I'm I'm drawn to uh, I think it's red light media's review of captain marvel where They they were talking about how bad the story is and uh, mike was saying he was expecting the arc to just be there's a guy Who's like Women can't be doing anything No, women are bad in the air force that he's like and then you know the big finale he's like Doing some kind of drag race with her and then she just wins and he and he said something like he gets shot Down or he's lying down. He feels the dialogue is like no, but you're a girl It's so funny because that's where we're at pretty much Kind of yeah Fucking it is it is a so ironic that it is this is the dark ages for just well-written female characters It kind of is unfortunately, which is fucking annoying Um, oh my favorite female You're Ripley's your aowyn's your and I think I probably might actually be my favorite female Aowyn's so fucking cool when Aowyn I really like Aowyn a lot. Um, there's so many good ones though But I guess the more I'm just sort of reminded of her and think about her the more I like taking down all of the fucking Elephants, I mean, yeah, she's she's pretty great. Yeah, deny that Oh god return of the king like that that whole battle like how you know The the the ride and then when the elephants come in they just immediately reform the line It's like deep man. I'm surprised that those horses can carry those We'll probably like Do another watch through free fat movies of Lord the Rings as though if it was enough time passes just because they're just They're just movies. You can keep appreciating and shit Yeah, I guess that's the thing where I was like, oh, we're gonna make a tv show We know that it's gonna have an enormous budget. I think a budget of 500 million dollars So it's gonna be hugely expensive. I'll make it good Well, yeah, I don't all right. That's the thing. It's like, oh, well, at least we know that it caught it'll look good We got that at least it'll look good um Are you sure about that fringy? No rewatch the scene when the jumps on the elevator Saracano grabs the gun and starts shooting at him. Wait, what are they saying are you sure about that fringy too? Um The that's seen It's like, yeah, arnie shoots a t-1000 in the face But then he jumps on top of the elevator and starts stabbing down And then they get into the car chase where you got all three of them working together because john's reloading all the guns for him Oh, so fucking great. They're all Announced their uh, they announced their ammo too because it matters. Yeah Yeah, it does matter. That's right I love that movie It is Yeah, t2 is legendary My build currently sucks as Just just a little sight note Well, it's good that you shared that Yeah, no worries Um, so yeah, there you go. What's up? I wasn't even really I wasn't even really referencing the oliphant thing at all Like that's not I guess like that's not even why I really like her But the reason you're not going to get awin anymore is because one of awin what makes her a great character Is that she is you know a woman in that time period in that setting and she wants to be a warrior and fight And she's clearly skilled and competent in it but Just because you want to fight doesn't mean that your place is on the battlefield Go to put your place And so you you have a duty to your family and your King in that setting and your kingdom And there's an aspect of I'm going to put the things I want to do on hold for now So I could do these other things that are important that do need to be done And then when the time comes where I really feel it's necessary I will pretend to be a soldier and I will go and fight and do that Um, I mean like there's it's not just I have to go all one way There's that balance of I have things I do need to do and there's things I want to do that also will help And maybe I shouldn't just fully commit to one of those things Maybe there's a time and place to do those things and It's more nuanced for sure. Yeah, it's a lot more nuanced. Whereas if you had that character now She wouldn't she wouldn't have gone to the glittering caves to Lead all of the people and to be there to protect them. No, yeah, you're right She she wouldn't be the person to You know watch over the the the children and the elderly and to put their safety ahead of hers in a non-combat role She wouldn't do she wouldn't do that. There would not be that that So ironic, I guess there's what we typically consider like a maternal aspect of you know, womanhood Is just that can't exist that it's so ironic that that scene is weakness now In a way when that's so ridiculous Um, there's no balance. There's no it's like the thing we're talking about earlier about the Templars and the assassins and You know hydra and captain america. Oh my god. I would say those two names, but uh, there's maybe there's some place in the middle Or where we don't have to go fully in one direction I think um, I wonder if it's anything to do with Oh, oh, oh, oh just just this just in Is t2 a movie where the plot doesn't work t1000 time travel, but it's still good because if they only show If only they showed the t1000 wearing living tissue and it oozed out So it's not a hole. It's not a problem at all. He's he's mimicking human skin So it gets him back that was never a plot hole and I don't know why people reference it Yeah, that's weird. That was never an issue Yeah, I don't know where they're getting that from and if anything if they if they really wanted to Criticize it the best you can do is contrivance, but um, I don't even think it's that It's it's literally science. Yeah Yeah, that that's not the issue that you would have you should have with terminator It's the there's other time travel stuff to talk about. Yes, but once you get over that initial hump You are super set for the rest of the movie There's a thing like the basic one of a terminator and I think this applies to all of them And then it gets worse the more they're that exist It's like so they could send someone back to make it so that they have strength in the future And all they did was send one soldier back to kill sarah carner at this point in time. It's like, hmm Feel like you guys have got about a million options This wasn't the greatest one and when you establish that they can send back anything they want as long as it's covered in skin Put a gun in a badger. I've said it before I remember specifically being a badger, that's why it didn't laugh even more What if what if they made this weird fucked up nightmare fuel gun that had like eyelashes and fingernails and it had like human skin all over it and you're like It shoots bone bullets or something It's like That's actually in they um a david crumb big movie someone's gonna know in chat. I'm sure of it But there is a flash and bone gun in that uh in that film Remember what film it was but I remember when I first saw I was like what the how does that work at all? It's like and it looks it's so stylish Help me out chat someone someone must know I remember which particular movie it was rags get more commander to play heroes of hammer watch Oh, that's a great roguelike. I would highly recommend heroes of hammer watch if you like roguelike games I have that game. I think I played it a long time ago. I don't remember anything about it You know what looks like a cool kind of roguelike coming out death loop the new game by arcane that game looks fucking death loop Yeah, it's you have me at arcane. They they normally they've normally put out bangers Yeah, so the the gist of the game is that you are on an island And you are stuck in a time loop every time you die you wake up the beginning of the day And you need to kill eight targets to break the loop. And so the gist of the game is that you The first time around you're not going to be able to get all eight of them because of just It was indeed existence. I'll bring it up as soon as They're done. I'm Definitely there we are So there's um, yeah, see you so from what I understand the whole idea of the game is that you travel around You explore and learn stuff about each of the targets you need to take down and you Gain knowledge on the loop so that you can make changes in the world to get more people in the same location So that you can kill them But then of course if you die you have to start over again. So kind of like, you know Basically, uh edge of tomorrow, but like a video game So that's gonna be cool Well, I'm I'm just glad arcane's still around. I guess as as great as great as prey was I don't think it was a commercial success. Neither was dishonor too, which makes me wonder about this one Like if this one doesn't do well. Well now it's microsoft. So maybe microsoft's priorities are different Tell you what guys, um Fucking soma wasn't enough of a success and it ended up making the developers do what they did next It's like I hope I yeah, that's You know what? You know what else? Fucking hillhouse wasn't enough as a success. Sorry, not hillhouse. Bly manner. So who knows what's gonna happen next Well, I think that's the That's the thing is like that's concerning because you look at what arc arcane Arcane are like the last ones left because iris montreal isn't like making these games anymore So arcane's the only one who are doing these like, you know first person Like sims, you know in a sense like that kind of deus ex thief Um, you know that that type of game or system shock, I guess as well like that type of thing They're like the last one So this game doesn't do well It's like well, are we gonna have any more of these games anymore because I really hope we do I like them a lot All of arcane stuff is great Well, I haven't played pray yet. I need to I need to I have good. I don't know. It's good. Wow remember I'm still bitter about pray too. I'm still really bitter about that I'm sure pray is great. It has a really cool art style like all of the arcane games do. Um I'm sure it's great. I I just really I really wish we got my space bounty hunter game really I wish we just one that'd be nice just one in in a decade would be swell No, I can't believe we haven't had any like because having had metroid prime 4 that's still not out yet um star wars 13 13 got cancelled Then you had pray too as well um, it's just I don't know That david kronenberg film with the the flash gun. It's it's called Existence and I believe they spell it as existence, but with a zed at the end and the zed is capitalized Existence It's it's it's like in the universe. I think it's like a brand. Oh But uh, yeah, they have a flash gun. It's weird Why do I have an item like this frog pray to was canceled fuck damn Which one is it? Which one is it? Oh, you mean that? Oh, sorry. I thought you meant like a pray to for arcane. Yeah No, it's pray to fucking disappointing. Yeah, the original one. Yeah, go ahead more Uh, this says frogo tell him how right you were smugly lull Hmm Bates coming out, you know coming out tailwrecks the battle and the prologue of dragon age origins where you defend What's his name? Ostar gar ostar gar against gar ostar gar Against the dark spawn forces the allied forces do it on the lowest level of the battleground instead of Barricading the castle ruins to lure their forces a bit By bit and don't commit an actual suicide against the dark spawn It wasn't supposed to be a suicide. What? Why why do you think any of that was supposed to be a suicide? It wasn't How was the plan? Let me double check and make sure I'm remembering ostar gar correctly. Uh Want want want You should understand before turning to the pain the cursed eyes. Yeah, I just realized Getting teleported out the room And the boss fights when you get damaged Not great. I don't know. Not good Um, oh, yeah, so ostar gar. Yeah, that was never supposed to be a suicide at all. None of that I don't even know where they're getting that idea. I don't I don't think that they're remembering that correctly um Because before then uh king calan, right He had defeated to two waves of darkspawn. I'm part of this is wiki a lot of this is memorization But he was saying he was even saying like the battle's going well We've we've already beaten to beaten two waves and he's getting really excited and duncan like told him to Like calm down. Don't get too overconfident Um But it was uh low gain Uh, his betrayal is what makes that whole plan not work. There's not there's nothing suicidal about it um Yeah, so Not sure where he's quite getting that. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I don't think I am I don't know But I guess I guess we'll see He didn't stay in the ruins and fortified them for assault the original planes No, the original plane was to draw the dark spa dark spawn into battle Which you have to have room like you can't fight in ruins Like you have you have to have open spaces to fight in Especially if it's an army versus an army at that scale And so the whole plan was they lure the darkspawn in Acting as a fight and then you uh, and then you had another team who was supposed to light a beacon That would let low gain and his men come in and flank the darkspawn and wipe them out Which would have probably worked But you had to go and light the beacon instead And when you do low gains like sound the retreat And then uh King kaolin and all the people get killed because the reinforcement that was supposed to come just flat out didn't and so they died and That sets up a lot of the plot for the rest of the game So all righty then What was I supposed to do let the gaff die? maybe Maybe I can't believe people I saw that fucking weirdo on twitter like defending that shit like It's randian, which I don't even think is that's no that's not Didn't the so someone in my notification said uh superman is So the son of god and the I don't know. There was some weird bible stuff. Um It's funny, by the way, uh, zaxxida was like By wick is like he's I think he had even came with a quote where he was just like what do you what do you say to right wingers who like love your movies for being um I guess representative of of the religious symbolism and stuff and he was just like whatever they draw out of it That's fine with me and I was just like, what are you? Surely it's on purpose like there's no way you're doing that by accident. Yeah, how yeah, there's it can't be by accident You can't accidentally have that kind of imagery Like there's no way Yeah, I don't believe it either. It was like, what is he surprised like bullshit You're a liar You lie Um chafferless has a bunch of bad opinions. He ranks toy story four over the Fucking hell jeez. How can you be that wrong? They assassinate like the two main characters Wait, let's say it again. He apparently chafferless thinks the toy story was better than one. It's like wow I don't even remember one and I know you're wrong four destroys one in a way Uh, not a good way horrible Yeah, four was frustrating to watch That was cane four was yeah, I wish four didn't exist So do I three if it was the end that's fine with me um I personally enjoy his old vids, but he ain't anything special. Well, you know what one bad opinion or two rather uh I'm sure he still makes some bangers here and there Very he's got he's he's probably got a lot of shit opinions Wow rags We've poor chafferless alone. I'm sure he's a legend. I'm sure he's not got a several of the takes that would infuriate us. That's fine Uh more since you like luigi's mansion so much. Do you have three a switch? No, you've asked me before. This is the only one I've played ah Have you ever thought about playing another one? um I wonder if The the reason I love this so much isn't simply the mechanics It's more so the The collection of it being so familiar Something I played the shit out of when I was younger the comfort of being accessible on dolphin The combo with it being like with hit and run and sunshine is my trio of Games I'm obsessed with apparently it it it evokes a simpler time So I don't know if it's really to do with the game rather than what it represents I guess because this is the thing hit and run and sunshine It's like I could be incredibly critical of them as video games, but like I don't care to be you know Yeah, no, I I totally understand that Um, I'm not even sure out of the three which one's most mechanically sound Probably luigi's mansion. It's not too complicated compared to the other two I'm not sure where I would land on that actually But the other two have lots of bugs While this one is one of those good old-fashioned Nintendo games that came out Like pretty much airtight I think the most part Despite being a launch game, which is interesting to think about Launch games don't tend to come out airtight Why do you never emulate other consoles the dolphin one just runs really well It's like I'm pretty sure it's one of the things it's known for it's like shockingly good Oh, yeah, a lot less stress and issues to get things going Which is also convenient for me because GameCube was The first proper big foray I had into video games. I was like this is fun Um now all three main endings for mass fact three, I think don't make sense The only one that does is let the next cycle deal with it, which is the only extended is only the extended cut I think Let the next cycle deal with it Which is weird considering at that position At that position, how do you just say just let the next beat like you still got to like solve the stuff Like the planet and the reapers and stuff Well, no, you just you're dead. That was what that ending was you die you lose Oh Yeah, that exactly that's what I mean Why would I want to accept the ending where it's like we lose if I could just destroy the reapers All of that was nope They just kill everything and then the next 50 bajillion years or whenever the next cycle starts Yeah, I'll just happen guys and figure it out. It's their problem now Also, you're dead and everyone that you care about is dead and all the civilizations You cared about are wiped out and their histories are erased Yeah, that's great. Hooray What a wonderful what what that is the obvious correct choice. Yeah, that sounds that sounds like tons of fun Question for fringy Why is every single ozzy such a chad you shad major kill legend of total war Hugh jackman, etc Is it because of the human eating spiders because of humans eating spiders? I guess that's what they're asking Uh, thanks for the compliment though Why didn't answer how your old shads that was the whole point of that question I said, I don't know but thanks for the compliment. That's terrible useless He just soaked up the compliment and abandoned the question. I would never do that. I could easily explain why welsh people are chads Do it Well, you see it's in our blood. We go back to gods Oh, okay. So now blood we we go back to the I don't know The sly people go way back Yeah, way back all 200 years. It's like the almost country in the world Wow, not really but uh, yeah, that's like Europe. It's like thousands of years old Uh, red ending destroys mess are Control at least works mass relays. No, they all destroy the mass relays At least in the the original cut of the ending they all destroy the relays I wouldn't know. So it doesn't even matter, you know We all came from gods. So what well, some of them were cooler than others. Okay Yeah, gods are definitely not created equal. No, they're not I must say molar. It's really frustrating that you haven't even played the mass effect trilogy. Why long man? Why it was made for you being long There's loads of stuff. I am played We jay hasn't seen lord the rings. Okay until we get that sorted out and nobody has to explain anything See, no, there's a clarification for the dragon age question earlier rags Uh, they didn't use the castles advantage point against the darkspawn instead of facing them 1v1 on an open battlefield The castle is not the best of shapes. I agree But putting all your forces in an open battlefield instead of setting strategic advantage points In the castle areas and spitting the darkspawn is Tarded they could have made a better plan to utilize the castle and it's high points against the darkspawn So the castle was it's more of a tower. I even think it's called the tower. Um, Let me the tower of the shall It's a tower so And it's also it's pretty far away from the battle itself You need a wide open space if you want to have that amount of people Fighting effectively you just need flat out space It's like battlefields are big and open especially, you know the olden days when you have big forces You just have to have space um The tower of the shall is just was it wouldn't be big enough and you wouldn't be able to Effectively wipe out The enemy if you don't have the room to do it and I don't think that it I don't think it had that kind of space I think there was the battlefield at the bottom Where you could have the two armies Meet and it would also have enough room for the reinforcements that were supposed to come in to you know Come in and make their charge and Do all that and also remember at this point Uh king kaolin was very confident about defeating the darkspawn in general because he'd already beaten them twice At this point and this was supposed to be the final like the final kill shot So they clearly had an amount of They clearly had a justifiable level of confidence in being able to defeat them in open battle and they the In the battlefield they chose a choke point as well correct They did choose a choke point on this battlefield. It was still a field But there were cliffs to the side by this field where they could Uh bring where they could where they would lure in the darkspawn So, I mean the plan seems pretty pretty good You know And it would have worked if uh That wasn't for the meddling low game Um, I never get consistent right back. I never get consistent notifications for streams sad face Anyways, could we get a hello to the unlisted gang every once in a while? Good day raggleton Good day. Hello. Yes. I think um, we began the resin evil one with that actually And that came out yesterday on on the list. So you guys got one there Uh, you know good old unlisted gang hanging out Also being chad born of god So did the darkspawn take under the tower of ish out? They did which is what your job was to sort of do you needed to go and light the beacon at the tower Uh, and when you go inside you I think you expect to find more friendly people there, but uh, they were killed by darkspawn who came up from like the tunnels and stuff I've got a traditional scottish beer Okay mech owens 11 Levi Synthesis is galaxy wide our word I'm assuming this is mass effect again I think so Well, no disagreements I guess Zach sniders justice league girl sniff sweater. Hmm bio is vision That was so bizarre I don't know what they'll see it. Yeah. I don't know what that was about. No, it's fine. Don't worry about it They just do that fine Kind of neat, you know, I'm sure Zach loved it I don't get it. Like I don't understand what the deal is Oh, no, right like was the was the point of Was the point of that scene to be Like the audience needs to think that she's a creepy weirdo Or I don't I have no idea. I don't know Maybe he thought like most see this is their little ritual or something. They love him. He's a god Yeah, I'm guessing that's the idea is to try and argue. He's a god to them. It's like it's so fucking like I don't I don't Why I don't understand why it's like oh this yeah heroes as gods That's cool. Not like oh heroes are just regular fucking people who have real problems that they have to deal with And does that say something about him as a character that he allows himself to be worshiped like this? And then he throws bottles and oceans in front of him. Yeah Like he should be putting this shit down because that's what Superman would be doing He'd be trying to put down like no, don't like no, I'm just I'm just me. I'm you know, I'm a small boy I'm from Kansas. I was raised in a small town and I'm uh, you know I know it's I know it's his vision. But and this is you know, like I just I just disagree with this vision Visions can be shit. Yeah, I think it's I think it would be way better as an idea to just have Your super, you know, just do it's basically the thing that are that are stanley always talked about right? It's just What you know, these people have like regular problems like they're just not This is really why spider-man people like him so much. It's because he's relatable You know, like you can't even If people like Superman if people began to worship Peter Parker and MCU, he'd be like, no, no, no, stop Stop what are you doing? Get up. Yeah, don't do that. And you know what? Superman actual Superman would not like it either. Well, yeah Aquaman, I'm assuming wouldn't but this version of Aquaman. Yeah, we just have to assume. It's like, yeah He likes it when they do that Like Aquaman's hard to tell because like I'm pretty sure comics Aquaman is a bit highly strong That's like his thing. He's more he's not like Jason Momoa Aquaman is very different from regular Aquaman But even that one, I don't know. I doubt that he'd be because he's you know, in his own movie He's taken selfies with people. So that's that's the kind of guy he is. So it's been inconsistent Um, but you know, since when the DCEU cared about consistency They don't give a fuck about each other's movies. Zack Snyder's most commonly used words in a script writing is and then Yeah, I think so. It's definitely an and then plot as opposed to a but therefore thing Yes, as a result of therefore considering Thus, no, it's just and then and then and then and then it's It's just funny how a show like South Park has stronger writing rules that are them like a lot of stuff Oh, yeah, everything needs to be a therefore or a but otherwise your story is pretty like boring The it's it's like a lot of these shows nowadays the the plot is like a Like a 10 year old describing a weird dream to you And then Luke Skywalker showed up and then we did the and then that's and then and this just has no logical sense of progression or anything things just happen And that's the plot the plot is just things happening Yeah, I mean that's because yeah, because things happening is not And I mean if in case it wasn't obvious to people the reason why but therefore is is so great is because it's just It's fundamentally cause and effect everything is related to something that has gone wrong or something that the character believes so the obvious one is like if you think about South Park episode, it's like Cartman Cartman shows off that he has an iPad, but it's a fake one therefore when he gets found out He needs to find a new iPad But when he arrives at the store his mom won't buy him like a regular iPad. She'll only buy him. It's a shiba hanty book Therefore Therefore pop cartman gets pissed off because that's kind of personally is Um, you know, it's it's just that thing It's it's all it's all tied to characters and the events that are happening in the movie where it's like Don't underestimate this whole cause and effect thing. It's a it's a baby. Yeah cause and effect It's just that's that's the key if you if you know I feel like if you nail cause and effect you can't go wrong Like you just can't because you've got a really good base to work from At worst your story will be decent and at best your story will be like incredible So the thing that gets you to peak No, I've heard that logic is the enemy of emotion I don't know why I don't know what person begun that horrific lie that's spread around the globe, but uh To me, it's just the the the beautiful lie shitty writers tell themselves It's like it's okay It's okay because I have an idea and that's worth something I I am I am trying it's funny how it's child ideas Oh good, I was gonna say it's even worse than that for you. It's like I have a feeling and that's worth a lot Even though feelings are temperamental I can constantly everywhere all over the place Well, I mean that's the that's the thing is like feelings just pop up and disappear all the time Usually without a clear explanation That's a great example like The one time I replayed Resident Evil 4. I was like, I I don't like this I don't know why but I like this. I remember just being really good and I replayed it in other terms Like yeah, this is good. I don't know what I was thinking back then You could literally have like come home for a bad day at work Can you play a game for the first time and you're like this game isn't good? Yeah, you don't even know why but you that feeling that's what they encourage the people who are Let's say the people we often end up covering They'll be like you have to value that feeling that feeling is everything. It's like it's so important It's like it might not be actually Well, it's real awkward because I feel like it's a um because one of the things people talk about is like For a long time men were told not to express themselves or to show emotion. It's like so surely like What the right way to approach that is oh think about what you're feeling but think about it You know like think about it. Yeah, I think we went from doing express it all to express as much as possible It's like no once again the correct answer was somewhere in between Well, yeah Oh, it's it's not it's not that it's invalid to have a feeling but like It's worth thinking about why you haven't and whether there's a better way to uh to deal with it It's like good old-fashioned stoicism, right? It's not to not have to All right, right. I think about it control it. And like if someone Think you know highlighted a problem with um a storyline or whatever but there's just like a detail they'd missed Then they get told it and they've hated the movie for that reason for that long and then they're like oh now That's gone, but the feeling's still here. I guess I have to wait until that goes now We watch it, you know and the reverse can happen. Um, I think you brought it up for me And I don't think this is any kind of spoiler but like Not as fun to watch Winter Soldier now No No, no, I used to like it but uh And that happens But then there are things that like I I know are worse than they were before that I still really like And then of course there are things that I know are really great that didn't get me the first time And they probably never will because it's really hard to push a feeling to a positive Like if you have a negative feeling about a story, it's really hard If if it gets explained that it's amazing to push yourself up to a positive because it's just how you feel And I mean the reason why you feel something could be for any number of reasons that are completely Devoiced from the content they could be or they could just be that it's something that you know Like it would be it would be weird for me Like if somebody came up to me and said I don't really give a fuck about halo I I don't really I get nothing from its atmosphere or like the world or anything at all It's like oh, we'll see me personally this really appeals to me because I love space and like mystery and this epic scope Um, but it's like oh, but that's just me. This doesn't you know Like this is not this is not anything that I could use to make a point If I wanted to make a point about how good I thought those games were I'd have to go deeper Then isn't it really cool to be on this big ring Where there's this huge mystery and like a backstory to this race of aliens And you're just there, you know trying to survive us. It's like no you gotta do better than that Um, and you shouldn't feel bad for having to try and do better than that to to explain what you feel Because not everybody has the same preferences And not everybody has the same backstory as you that might be the actual fundamental problem with all of the communication between People analyzing stuff is the inability to properly explain why you felt something Yeah, because if you can explain it I can understand it But if you don't then I have nothing and I don't know the thing is if you don't even know why And you have to just clutch at anything that kind of makes sense And then you end up arguing something you don't even believe in and then that that thing gets proven invalid And then you just fucked because now it's like you staked your feelings on something that you didn't even feel it was that So you're just like I don't even know anymore. I still feel this way. I do I guess it's it is like I don't know it's I feel like it is It's it's funny because you see people like high top going around talking about how they've matured by dropping The idea of trying to have some sort of consistent standard to just how I feel as if that's more nuanced when in reality It's more it's less nuanced Everybody's feelings and that's okay. It's like, what is this? Why do we believe that this is like the way that this is you've improved at uh An analyzing media where anything can mean anything to anybody which we already know and that's the only thing that matters There is no craft. There is no skill that you can improve at There's nothing that differentiates any great work from another work Everything in a museum is of the same quality and has the same merits every film is of the same quality and the same merit Every video game every piece of music And yet they will always in their language give away that they don't actually believe that Because nobody actually believes this shit Just the newest example high top chastising people for critiquing anything to do with zack snider when it's his vision and it's like so He seems to be putting forward that a singular person's vision should trump anything else So it's like what about two people and I know he'd say yes to this If I said a team of people who work together all the time This is you know the rusos for example. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, what about three? And I'm sure you'd be like that's fine. Let me go. What about four? Until I get to a board room. That's where I'm going. I'm gonna get to 12 Yeah, of course And then I'm gonna be like what if 12 people consistently work together to make movies Is that is that invaluable compared to a single person's vision? And how do you justify that? At well, how how can you Video games are not one person's single vision Video games are incredibly collaborative. Is it all bullshit then? Because it's like multiple people coming together to create something even the whole sniders vision thing The first thing yms said on our conversation about it. He was like so first. This isn't his vision No, you know, it's not it's not And it's like, yeah But well, he's right in the sense of the green lantern stuff but also in the sense that like if we're going really like baseline here, it's like There is no movie that's one person's vision fully. It's just not gonna happen That's too many people involved production. I mean like the concept art that wasn't his vision That was somebody else's coming up with all that stuff It's just a collaborative if you want your 100 vision write a fucking book like write a book If that's if that is what you value more than anything else But if you if you want to make movies, you got to get over this shit. You really do It's arrogant. It's really arrogant to try and come in and say like, uh, it's all my vision It's mine and everybody has to just do this to support my vision The reason I brought that up though is that he's uh So he's like evolved past these whole standards thing, but he's already creating one that's stupid by Changing up a real stupid one. Yeah, and they do this a lot. They'll just be like No, I don't subscribe to any rules at all But this this thing I just said though, that's true when you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa that like changes everything One is way less Qualifiable than anything that any of us are trying to say. Yeah, that's the interesting part. It's just like, oh You know consistent Consistency within a writing that's like that's that's really it everything else You know play it by your nuts or like, you know, figure it out work from there go Yeah, do whatever you want just make sure it's consistent And then it's like no see it's right what makes you know, you got to get the feelings But and you know three-act structure you really should be doing that and don't have passive characters That's that's bad people won't like that. Also make sure that you stick to genre Locations Your inciting event needs to do this because your main character must go on this kind of journey They must change by the end. All right. Here's a real example from uh Filmento, right? It's like if you have a threat your characters have to deal with it's better to have them be partially responsible for it Which is just absurd. I don't even like what is the logic is How does that make any sense? Yeah, so they haven't be partially responsible for it bad things happen to people That's not their fault in real life. I might have believed that if you did like a biopic On a story that wasn't I would just be stuck all the way back at like prove it What what could possibly be the logic at all? Where do we even start? Couldn't you just say Filmento's comment Yeah, like that it's better that if your story is there's a catalyst for the story that it should be Pause at least partially if not fully by the characters Oh, yeah, like yeah, you said that in the underwater video. Yeah, and what if yeah What if I said if you have a threat you need your characters to deal with it's better that they're not responsible for it So that you can feel more comfortable morally with them having to deal with it since it's not their fault What if I just said that And he might agree with that because he might do he'll forget what he said before His rules are not rules. They're more like temporary guidelines that fluctuate based on question mark question mark question mark Profit, it's just there are a lot of story There are a lot of things that happen in real life and some stories are meant to sort of almost imitate life There are a lot of time, but just In fact, that's often a hallmark of a tragedy Is that the victim is innocent that what happened to them is not their fault that they weren't the cause of it They are simply a someone who was caught up in something beyond their control That's what makes it tragic if they were responsible for it Like if if you if someone does something bad therefore something bad happens to them That's the opposite of a tragedy. That's just like justice. That's you getting what you deserve or that's you I mean, that's often that's like hubris You know, yeah, yeah stuff like that. There's all kinds of things you can do with it. But yeah, like I don't know why you would say that that like just makes for inherently potent storytelling when When you know like it depends on what your objective is as a writer for that story as well Like what are you going for as a as a like a point or a theme? You don't it doesn't necessarily need to be He says a lot of stuff in that video. He said a lot of stuff and all the stuff We've covered from him or I'm just like my god one question like destroys all of this It'd be so cool to just see his reaction I don't know if he's even thought about it or if he would just fold and be like, yeah Yeah, you know, you might think it works better the other way. It's like, no Either of you want to go Oh, I would say it was so it's the that'd be the point where you're like So tell us why we would think that and why one way might be better than the other And if all ways are the same then fuck it. It doesn't matter I think that's a reality where you would have to go Yeah, if nothing is better than anything else if you want to if we want to take that I think that's an aspect of postmodernism when it comes to art Is that all art is like inherently equal like none of it is better than anything else It's so interpretive and man that there's you know what like I don't know if people when they go to like a museum and they see this incredibly detailed baroque painting That took like five years to make and then just I think that's it Baroque, yeah What do you think was pronounced broke? Oh, uh, well, I was curious. It might just be yeah Yeah, it's probably just a regional thing. So That's rock You know, you go see a baroque painting that took like five years to make incredibly detailed just beautiful And then you see that fucking canvas. It's just red And then it's like, oh, you know what these are of equal value guys What what does it make you I got so black piled on that that trip to the art gallery like that Oh, yeah, I feel moment for me Yeah, like seriously if you haven't if no one's been to an art gallery if no one's really It doesn't have to be a famous big art gallery because there's There's a lot of people who you'll never know the names of who have incredible artistic talent Go to a go to a local gallery and just look at the stuff people can make And then look at someone who draws a red square Oh god Actually, you know what I think my black pill moment came earlier because I remember my brother did an art thing Uh, because he was he was doing art briefly and he he was doing a painting and he did his painting It looked nice especially considering how young he was at the time Um, and it was really cool and he put it up for an award He he won awards for woodwork. So he ultimately, you know, he came he came away well that day But his painting didn't win I remember first place the painting that won was really really cool Second place was a fucking a four piece of paper with five different colored stripes across it And as a kid I was sitting there like what the fuck is this? This isn't fair. Well, yeah, that's how I felt it wasn't fair. I could do that and I'm an asshole Yeah Bringing would never call himself that Yeah, I feel like if I go to an art gallery and I could point at something and say, you know what? I could do that. It probably shouldn't be in an art gallery Yeah, well, you sell yourself short, right? You're the best on gothic fun The promise it's like it's it's I'm pretty sure it wasn't a gay pride flag either though as a kid I don't I recognize that flag. I don't think it was but but the ultimate thing that is is um You know, there is uh This is not to undermine like abstract art and stuff I think you can do some really cool stuff where it's like not Conventional, you know, so like baroque is trying to be more conventional It's more like dynamic lighting and stuff and really being bold But it's trying to mirror reality in some way But you can have like your abstract pieces kind of like the stuff that van go did some of the stuff Picasso didn't it's like this is this is really cool And you can you can pull something from it because you can see in that work That there is an underlying like meaning or intent behind it you can see the uh The skill on display the talent and the hard work um And so so it's not like it's not like there is it's not like um baroque or hyper realistic paintings are Intrinsically better than uh than any other piece of work I just wonder sometimes when I see like a red canvas Like I saw at that art gallery just a big red canvas on display and they're asking us what it It it felt like or what it meant to us. I don't I have no idea I mean it sounds at least you described like how this doesn't function pragmatically like this idea that everything's the same It's like nobody operates this way nobody does nobody operates that way unless they force to like again going to an art gallery Showing me a red canvas and asking me how I feel about it. Well, like if you show me Oh, yeah, so if you have That canvas right and then you're in a let's just say you're doing they live right But you're the only person who understands the difference everyone else is like this is fucking incredible Everyone's staring at it for like ages and you're just like, um Yeah, you know like if everyone on planet earth thought it was amazing you might you know follow along a little bit But you're still gonna be like am I missing something? It's just a red what Yeah, and and that's the thing is this is I look at and it ends You know, someone might be like, oh, well, you're just under developed as a person Right like you you should be able to notice the underlying meaning behind this stuff Because because it would be you know, oh, so you can understand this baroque painting or like this realistic one because it mirrors real life So like it's it's it's a lot easier to tell what that is. It's like that's true But abstract art can evoke a feeling That um is underlying that you can at least pull from what you see in front of you But if it's like a red canvas I got no idea what i'm supposed to be thinking about because there's nothing in the piece to make me think about anything I was gonna say this is how it almost translates to what we do with when we're looking at other people's work with In relation to movies, right? So if someone said to you in that in that room like, oh, yeah, no, I can explain it. So Uh, will war one there was a lot of and you go, whoa What do you like? What do you what do you mean? Well, well one you go? No, no, no, just let me explain and you go, okay You like so with the amount of lives lost and the amount of land that was sprayed in blood from all of all of the Decimation that we experienced This painting is supposed to represent like no matter how you look at the war. It was an absolute defeat for the entire world And you're like, I don't But it's just I don't Right. Where was I meant to derive war from that and you're like, what do you get? I was thinking I was thinking of a nosebleed like what are you talking about? So what I was gonna bring up was like so that's the two results, right? If they say on one hand, this is what they brought someone else goes Wait, I didn't see that at all I saw and then explained the whole other thing It's just like for fuck's sake, you guys are all bringing your own baggage Like none of this comes from the painting. The second explanation is the artist explained this in the little text box underneath it And you're like, oh, so which is Fuck Fuck's sake, um, yeah, it is death of the author and that I guess let me just because I'm just gonna look up like Van Gogh paintings like so this is abstract, but it's you know, it's I can I can at least Grasp on to something here. Like I mean starry nights the the the one that everybody goes for, right? I don't think that's abstract. No, I guess it's not it's um, it's it's something else Impressionist Is that is that? I should know better. I did art history Um, I did too, but I a lot of it just never didn't take because I never ended up doings with it I'm not sure. Yeah, I think I think I think it probably is impressionist right because abstract is is even harder to grasp on Well, basically it's it's abstract if it doesn't seek to imitate external reality Right. Oh, it's real. Maybe. Yeah, it could be uh Let me double check because this is stuff that I just haven't Oh impressionist is lovely. Um That would be uh Generally, I think the go-to impressionist painting is I have to look up the name Uh baldu moulon de la galette I'll just post a picture of it because it's a it's that is like one of the go-to impressionist Yeah, um It doesn't look like a real thing, but you can well it doesn't look realistic, but you can grasp a real um You can grasp something real from that It's uh, it's it's like the value of the work comes from the the way in which it is presented to you Like the techniques that we use to render People or the sky or the or the water and I think it's just the whole thing of like um Yeah, it's like the technique then yeah It's more the technique than the subject matter though That was part of it, but it was mostly the technique of impression has this very big thing is um These evoke a mood like starry night evokes a mood It really does just give you something in terms of like a moody atmosphere There's plenty to work with on starry night Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Um, and I guess it's just yeah I would like to hope that if because we can recognize this like so that's there's a real talents in just um the ability to make things look real in uh In something that is highly detailed that is more of the baroque era But then there's also like this real value that can be pulled from this impressionist stuff Uh, and then I just look at a red canvas and I've got fuck all or just some stripes across a I already explained the meaning to you and you still don't get it. Wow Stupid I hate it It's just yeah, I don't know. Um It's it's it's it's it's frustrating. That's that's all Like I said, I'm pretty sure we have identical stories on on this one and the um the more down to earth art teacher I had was giggling as my teacher said you're supposed to look at it and draw your own meaning from it Because it was just a red splat on the wall Well, I think it's the common thing right where people say I could do that Whereas if you look at van Gogh, it's like, oh, no, the average person could not do this There is a there is a uh, a real skill here or you know, Picasso as well The average person could not do that. Well, hence why we try to separate craft from art as well because I'm not I'm not here to validate whether something is art. I don't think that's a Yeah, like it's creative. Yeah, it's a lot Van Gogh was I think van Gogh was a poster compressionist That's what a lot of people are saying Yeah, let me uh, oh, you know what that's the movie that you guys should watch willam to foe. Uh, yeah movie willam to foe so Willam to foe. Yeah, so van Gogh according to wikipedia as a post impressionist Um, there was a movie that van Gogh Uh, that was about van Gogh that had um Willam to foe and I remember watching it a couple of years ago vitamin No, no, that's right reg sets vitamin already The bad guy was not Vincent bad guy. It's at eternity skate. Yes. That's the one. Yeah, that's the one. It's a good movie. Um Yeah, vitamin far from defo He really does look like he really does look like van Gogh He does look like van Gogh. Yeah, matt mass mickelson is in it in oscar isaac Oscar isaac is in it. Yeah, I don't know. He was as old as that Uh a couple years. I think we should we should probably maybe it's pretty good I will I will happily rewatch it with you guys. Yeah 79 tomato meter 64 audiences. So who knows Maybe it's good. There's just not enough explosions in it. It's really it's quite a slow-paced movie Oh, yeah, I am it would be weird if the van Gogh movie was action-packed Just opens with a car chase that was like why though he's painting in the back as bullets are going off Of course van Gogh is kind of a bit of a tragic story. Oh, yeah, he's tragic. Yeah, he was unrecognized for his talent while he was alive And that's actually a doctor who episode I would recommend from uh There's a lot of people know about it. They they go and meet him and uh, they take him forward in time to see a gallery Looks like dedicated to him There's a particular scene that a lot of people will share the guy who plays him is a Relatively famous actor. It's really really good Reminds me of um Once upon a time in hollywood is that was what it's called right? It's just like an alt history thing that makes us all very happy to see even though it didn't happen. Yeah I guess um When you think about a van Gogh situation, it's like I guess If that's you, um You gotta like if you're doing an art thing that nobody recognizes the work It's like you just got a first severe right in there and just you got to be focused on the craft itself So that a lack of recognition doesn't destroy you It's a tough one That is a tough one to to go your whole life believing everybody thinks that you suck and then there's no value to your art and Once you're dead, you can never know But once you're dead, I guess you don't care anymore. So So once upon a time in hollywood is a different movie. I think with brad pit. It's like, yes Audi r2 story is super overrated What do you think for you? Red Dead Redemption 2 story is overrated. Yeah Um, I mean, it's it's it's rated so incredibly well But I think you could say that it's overrated But I don't I guess the problem is when you say overrated it's like so it's not good It's like well, I think it's really good. Uh, but everybody thinks what is red dead redemption 2 story It's incredibly highly rated Uh, so in that sense you could say it's overrated, but I still think it's good. Um, I still think it's pretty good Fair enough. Yeah, I don't know. Um Oh damn it. Uh, hi, will Ethan find the anti light equation and say it's dark I think so Light equation. Also, I can't wait to see you watch tenet where protagonist finds the anti time equation I Listen, okay, we're gonna we're gonna get to it at some point one day And I'm sure it's like I'm almost saying it's gonna be really bad at this point It's gonna be uh, Nolan at his best and what I mean is at his worst The the noliniest tell the difference if we're gonna be clear Nolan does nolan things Got any my k no eyes are on the wrong side. Oh, nice voice crack there on the wrong side K no eyes Yeah, that's like a k no eye lasers I got bloody lasers You got fireballs gay. I can't remember what he says Remember enjoying Uh, did you have that warm hole eye before me plea? Whim whole eye Yeah, it's just sometimes that It shoots like a red eye and it creates a warm hole and every enemy gets sucked into it and gets damaged Uh, it sounds vaguely familiar. Maybe Pretty good. Hmm Now speaking of morality, do you think the lack of clear cut morality reflects the current state of west and civilizations being an entropy? I don't think it's a problem of not being clear cut. It's just they're almost the reverse clear cut. They're clear cut, but wrong They're not yeah, they're all or they're confused. It's like it's like they don't even know they they don't even So sorry, hold on. Can you read the question again? um Well, I mean I will just just like so because I don't think that our problem with any of them is the Um, they're confused. I think they know what they're doing. They're just really really Borked. They've not thought about it at all. I guess I don't know if that counts as confused Kind of in a way it's close enough. I would say um The problem with bad writing is that you don't know if it's intentional or not Which leads to confusion. Well, I was gonna say like seems to be what was advocated for in that comment It's like well They're saying what the state of the world is is something I would have actually preferred if they didn't have an answer Like if they said, um, I don't know We're not sure and we have characters advocating for extreme positions But both of them have clearly negative side effects or something I was like I way prefer that than what they usually end up doing Which is just this person was absolutely right by the way. It's like but they were evil I am totally yeah. I am totally happy with a mixed answer. We actually don't know this is complicated I way prefer that and then giving me an answer that it's just utterly wrong Yeah, I don't know so I don't know if that equates all because what was what was the full question again So he said speaking of morality. Do you think the lack of clear-cut morally? Morality reflects the current state of western civilization being an entropy It I I don't think it's an entropy Yeah, I was about to say like if this is entropy. Holy shit like well, it's not too bad Yeah, I wouldn't call it entropy human history Yeah, I think our our current. I don't know our current cycle is we are at a point where we have to Fight back against what I think is a combination of corporatism and authoritarianism Um, and I think that things will be okay. I'm certainly not okay. Yeah. I think things will be a okay We have but humanities Never had really this issue before like this and we have to get over it And it might take a little while. Fuck. Yeah, it's a new hurdle Um, especially technology. There's going to be a lot of changes like this century is going to be pretty eventful I think yeah, I don't think they're yet in terms of how eventful it's going to get once ai and stuff and Crypto, do you know and all these things start becoming more relevant? Well, it's going to be a very different place by the end of the century assuming we're not all dead Which I don't think we will be I think we'll make it to clarify though. I think we'll be all right I think they would be confused if only anyone asked them some questions But the writers themselves feel they are moral paragons like they know exactly what's correct And you always got to be careful when you're writing a story You need to hardcore scrutinize whatever point you think you're trying to make because you put yourself in there basically Yes, but I know what's right No, I mean like they So I don't even know that they've realized that the writers of falcon the winter soldier told us a lot about what they think Right, which is that It is oh your goals are okay. If you want to uh Basically destroy the concept of nations Which is not something that I think anybody really agrees with in full. I remember this is a new look at kill monger And we're not Yeah, we're not getting a we're not getting a lot of almost all the media that we get especially on this scale It's not what we would call politically diverse Which is why I think we can get the sense of it's You know, it's coming from You know that that hollywood lefty I think it's an echo chamber. Yeah, it is an echo chamber You you don't have healthy discussions in media about a lot of this stuff, especially when it comes to politics and that's That's what you need. Um, you needed somebody in that room to be like Well, no, can we can we talk about can we let steel even if you did even if you disagree with um Even if you ultimately agree with carly, you know for whatever reason that is you need to steel man the the other side Like you really should be trying to still man the opposition here. You're not allowed to have Diverging viewpoints. You're not even allowed to discuss it or entertain it. Like which is absurd You're just Superman again to man of steel like that. No one even battered and I was like wait He does what to all the unborn things Same for wonder by the way, and I was gonna say like I think it's really indicative the sad state of affairs when we're all pretty much passed like we're all like Yeah, james woods won't be in a hercules remake and and someone I think an alien could be like why and it's like Oh, well He's not a lefty. Yeah, he's not they're not gonna give him They're not gonna give him a job and if they did they'd get a shitstorm on twitter They're gonna ruin meg. They're gonna ruin her. They're gonna ruin meg. Yeah, absolutely They'll destroy her because god that character is like on such a fine line, but it's it's fantastic Like they balanced it so well, you know, she's like closed off from people She's snarky, but you know, she got that heart of gold around. She's fundamentally a good person And it's it's great and that's not what we're gonna get this time around. I have baby You know I need someone really helpful for me to get to this planet. So my Race doesn't die and baby. It's like, hello. I'm gonna eat your babies Yeah, I We don't like stop dad. No, haha funny. It's like it wasn't funny if you're killing them I it would be really cool if we got like actual right-leaning content You know like that would be interesting We could have both and then we could see what you know, what would what would this story be? But the people who made it could actually Display their right-leaning viewpoints. It'd be cool if we got some actual liberal content I mean, I guess what I would Prefer as a general rule is that nobody it's not that I would prefer one or the other It's that I would prefer that people feel comfortable with the idea that they can um write a story and express the perspective that they have and be able to do that um in a feasible way like And and then of course be open to scrutiny in the same way that the content that's out right now is open to scrutiny, right? So it should it should be in a place where everybody feels like they can express their perspective in the story that they're writing And not feel like they're gonna lose their job, but still be open to scrutiny or whatever their position is or how well it's conveyed Yeah, that'd be swell, but um, I don't know I don't know I'm not happy with the yeah the current Yeah, it's all It'd be nice to have some right garbage too Like if there's gonna be shit, I like it just at least come from both sides to clarify I'm assuming you're saying there's no like mainstream right garbage because there is some like The streaming service is called, but there's like there's some Oh, there's like christian. There's lots of christian like your channels and movies Yeah, they're all they're all little things and they're all yeah, no, no, there's not like yeah. Yeah, I get you Yes, um, well, I guess the thing is though is that um, one of the things that it seems like though is that it's really hollow What's happening right now where it's um, it's almost like you've got the board of these companies like all right, so um Tanki stuff is kind of you know, that's kind of a movement right now But we still got a you know appeal to this base So how do we like walk the line of having the politics but also not to make money? You know like I imagine that though there are those conversations where it's like how exactly do we best to make money? By offending the least amount of people possible. Yeah, there's probably Big boardroom people having headaches every day trying to figure this out That's why I don't have fucking just evil people in movies anymore like actual evil despicable people most of the time Oh, we do they're the protagonists. Yeah Yeah, uh, yeah, sorry um Like I just said back to the boys was like, oh, she's so racist, but she's not using any slurs like oh, okay Okay, what do you think? Well, Kevin Sorbo like I am he's a Chad But I remember he wasn't in that movie gods not dead where he played a storm and atheists who hates god Yeah, but here's the thing as as fucking dumb as he is on that Like as I would love to hang out with him like he will hang out with me He would he would hang out with me and I feel like we could be friends He wouldn't just hate me and dismiss me and act as if I'm just a terrible person I guess he's a mold and I'm beyond sick kind of he is. Yeah, he's kind of a boomer normie probably I would imagine because I mean yeah It is it is a boomer normie take that if you're an atheist you hate god Like yeah, exactly the way we exist, but you hate him That was so funny like that would be so stupid. Yeah, that was quite the movie Not a great movie and then he what's happened to get to run over by a car again And then he it's like oh you're about to die just accept god and it's like yeah, I do It's like Makes it a little less meaningful, doesn't it? It's like nope What a flim What a flam What a flam Whoa Rags ever considered playing the kotol games I think kotol 2's characters and story really shows how good stalls can be check out doth nihilus I've heard good stuff about kotor, but I just don't have any interest in playing them But I mean, but that's the old-school buy-away stuff. So I'm totally down and believing that it's actually quite good. I'll just take you at your word on that Um, no disrespect to kotol, but doth nihilus is very close to a very edgy name Just off nihilus. Yeah. Oh, it's a little bit Hit number four blowing his head off I repent Oh, yeah, do it in case it works, right? I remember that that was like the the thing for me at school. It's like, oh So like hitler or I I mean, I think as a kid it was always like this So a really good guy who like donates to charity to do an humanitarian work But he's an atheist is going to hell But like a piece of shit gets to go to heaven because he believes in god the teacher said yes And that was like a that was a Now even as a kid, I was like, oh, I don't like that. You want to talk to the dm. You don't like these rules Yeah I don't want to play anymore The Bible reuse nihilus and massive again. Yeah, he was the first uh specter that you meet on eaten prime. Yeah Uh, that actually happened in islamic warrent text de faro after being drowned in the red sea after it was Only said I believe now The sith or all edgelords was like, yes. Yes. Didn't happen to me though No, they don't they could be really really neat and how they constructed. I teach he had was wrong I agree. She was wrong Yeah Is t2 a movie with oh wait, I actually read that one out ahead of time didn't I Idiot, raga. At least the weird christians are just going to be like, oh, yeah Well, you're going to go to hell eventually and they're not trying to make my life a living hell on earth. So That's kind of You know, that's all right. Yeah Ragu if you could be in a 40k faction, what would it be? No space marines though. Enjoy spooky house game. I will Oh, okay. I don't know the towel. I guess Any particular reason Oh, I guess that makes sense in that universe that there'd be, you know A faction like that because they're all I guess they're often called like the space communists or whatever And they're all about they're they're all I mean, they're all they're all collectivists But they're they're they're a they're a whole thing because I have a very very light knowledge and understanding of 40k But they're supposed to be like everything you do everything for the greater good And you know in and so they're like I seem like I could like like it's functional You know, it's not too absurd like the orcs and the tirnids and stuff and the dark Evil space elf necron things that seem kind of absurd which is part of the setting. Sure, but I could actually See like existing as a towel Like that seems like something that I could actually do But the space That's that's a little scary Yeah, but I mean everyone's scary. So it's like you you hear that you're like, oh, that's really bad Like yeah, it is. However, everyone's bad. So you're like, yeah I just like the idea of space. That's really funny. Just the word space communist Well, I've always liked putting space before any anything just makes it funny space space bolsheviks and space proletariat Space libertarians space capitalists Fringy, have you heard about necromunda hired gun? I hope it's good. Looks cool so far I I can't say that I have heard of that. No Yeah, I'm not sure what that is. I don't know that either So where am I gonna apparently someone mentioned in my chat before I remember that Please watch stupid red poop Please Please watch invincible It's got a really major floor and I want to see you guys rip into it since everyone's praising it Oh, that's oh boy. It's already the tide is already turning on invincible. Oh, well, all it'll be is another super chat I've been like, no, that's not actually a flaw because I know what they're talking about or something like that Um, it's just funny that we're at that point people like please watch it because you guys will love it And please watch it when he goes to shred it Yeah, I heard everything. Yeah guys. I thought we were trying to move away from validation. It's not about that. Okay You stop it Uh to fringy a lot of strong nihilists That keep saying nihilists nihilists. Sorry. They keep saying life is no meaning Therefore, let's become hedonists killing machines that inflict suffering on other people because it doesn't matter in the end Well, so that's the interesting part, right of like trying to figure out because uh, I think that's one of the things right Like if you're an atheist, it's really hard to get over that whole thing of like, oh, so this is meaningless, right? This was just this is just this just happened because it did and so I don't agree. That's I don't agree It's hard to get over but oh So, well, so I it is a lot of people Yeah, for a lot of people it is hard to get over that I agree where there is a way to get over it. Um, because I would amend that I would agree Only to the sense of they think that it will be hard to get over that because they're still clinging on to their religion I don't I don't I don't think that it actually is but there's the fear that it is because they've been told that way Um, yeah, I I get what you mean because I but but that's the thing, right? I think for people life, it's it's it's it's hard to get over that because I think for I think it's just the human brain needs meanings that like it we just really struggle. I think it's a grapple with uh, not knowing and Finding a way to sort of get past it But I think the easy part is like a categorization issue, right? Because like they It's like wait when I die, it's all over and you're like, yeah, and they're like, oh no no meaning It's like no no wait. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. That was a jump. Would you have to get there? Right. That's right because it's because I think what they say it was like that nihilism then and then it's just hedonism and it's like That's one way to do it is to just be like try to get as many laughs as you can out of out of life And then and then die without any regard for the effect because it's all meaningless But I think that just means you're a psycho Well, yeah, right. So it's it's not I don't and I'm not even sure that like humans deal well with doing that Just because of the way that we got here that like we for whatever reason Um, we yeah evolution has instilled in us that we are a very social species. Yeah, and then we care about Yeah, it's very very advantageous problem solvers. We figure things out So we're trying to figure out this whole this whole thing out. It's the universe of ours You know, you can have you you know, even being a nihilist of like nothing matters It's like well, you can choose what matters to you. That's that that's within your power That's your you have the capacity to choose and it could always be like absurdism or Stoicism or or what was it? There was another one as well. That's like, all right. Um, epicureanism Oh, well, I mean that's that's uh Epic isn't epic. Fuck. I get mixed up sometimes. I mean like the idea of um the things that you can what is it? Let me let me pull it up I need the definitions because there was uh there was um Because it's a epicureanism is basically Heedinism, but let's calm down and be reasonable. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Um So I think there was um I remember we looked at oh, yeah, there's existentialism nihilism and absurdism Existentialism is that uh the belief that through a combination of awareness free will and personal responsibility One can construct their own meaning within a world that intrinsically has none of its own That's pretty good. I think that's one that you can work with Um nihilism means it's pointless to even try and figure out another substitute absurdism is the the belief that the search for meaning is inherently in conflict with the actual lack of meaning But the one should uh both accept this and simultaneously rebel against to find bracing what life has to offer So they're really positive ways to pull something out of um Out of the idea of that there is no broader meaning that shouldn't be That shouldn't be a devastating blow to to to be like Oh, yeah, there was no meaning to like the human race or like existence as a whole On a cosmic scale there because it probably isn't Um, but you can always find meaning in the life that you you know yourself, right? People think nothing matters then just start smashing their stereos and their computers and killing their loved ones and be like, oh, yeah Mr. Um, good old mr. Angel has to deal with this stuff. Yes, that's right um And if you know and if it find it so uh read meditations by Marcus railies. Yes. It's like my favorite book ever It's pretty close. I can love that shit Um, pretty good wallowing rags. Like comes a philosophy metal. Uh frozen fetus Just kind of oh, hey, it's maybe I'm a big fan of one fish two fish red fish blue fish. I mean, you know good I know you're talking about bell. I was surprised I was at the game Oh, that's fantastic Hey, what is this fucker sad about? Oh, he's he's sad because he's just learned that life has an remaining He's crying so we just like get over it your piece of shit Yeah, get over it. There's nothing that we do matters that all that matters is what we do He just thumbs up to the camera Mario getting deep on us Would you rather come from Yahweh or Thor? I'd have to know more about Thor Yeah, yeah, I'd have to check all the law for both. I don't know Thor seems a bit more chad You do kind of feel cool coming from Thor don't you just like oh, that's pretty cool though Yeah, Yahweh's just sort of a prick. So I'm pretty sure Thor's probably a prick as well, but you know, he probably is but at least he's They're probably just more honest about it At rags and remember the Darkspawn can come from underground. So this argument with the tower of Ishal is ludicrous They do come from the ground they can but they also like a mass Above ground as well That's the point of the big massive battle because if they go into the tunnels and stuff like you can't Use your big armies to kill them Um I'm all right I find it endlessly cool that the voice of the og Optimus Prime did the noises for the predator in the original film That is awesome Um also high rags great work on the crash video Oh, thanks It was really tough to play that game that much and try and get perfect triple s rating on all the levels Yeah, I'm sure all of the yeah finding all the collectibles like the game's fine as it is But when you try to push it to that level, oh jeez it just breaks down Would not recommend you push yourself too hard It was hell for you. I wouldn't know. Yeah. Yeah, I would not recommend You wouldn't know but I just I'm glad I envy the fact that you don't know what it's like That must that must be really nice to not have the memories God, I was I was so close to breaking the control on a few occasions I I'm kind of regret not recording some of the the cries of anguish that uh wings of fringy I I know them because fringy and moller and I we'd be in calls as he was playing and we'd hear this random And then He's doing his game research. He's being a gamer. He's he's working run it Run up bay you sometimes want to go to sleep I see it like projected against that my eyelids just that level. Oh you missed two crades tough. Shit try again And there were there at the beginning of the stage and buy some steps You like the girl and get in queen's gambit. We you see the game on the ceiling I think remember when we saw that scene it was like, oh no Yeah, we were really disappointed. We were we wanted I shouldn't talk about it. I'm gonna get fucking hung up on everybody in chat I was like, what that show is amazing. He'd be like, okay. Okay. Okay. It's fine Well, yeah, to be fair, we only watched episode ones Well episode one wasn't good. So no, I I know. Um Yeah, maybe it gets better when you watch the other episodes Yeah, maybe I think when we first set it on whatever would have streamed some people like it gets better by like episode five or something We were like, oh my god. That's like the show's a little over Now help me out here. How exactly does it go to get buff? Can he how can he lift weights? Oh, oh Oh, no, never mind. Oh, no, we see he can lift weights. Mm-hmm. I think a ghost Well, maybe it's you were buff when you died Maybe yeah, so I guess the question becomes why is he maintaining it? And it's like, yeah, you can lose your buffness in ghost form too at least confirmed in this If you turn into a ghost when you die all the more reason to keep yourself fit and healthy Yeah, well that that just encourages you to die in your prime. So maybe don't actually maybe don't That would suck if you're like a craggy old ghost with Like, you know, you just all you can do is walk really slowly and all the other ghosts like Everyone's partying on indoor and your old man forced ghost ovi one and you look over you wait a second So I can wait a second. How come I'm old and ah what remember? Um On the the the re-release it was like Hayden christensen came back and it's like wait, wait, wait. No It doesn't make sense I think that the idea that was like that was when he was lost Anakin. It's like, well, no, it wasn't He was adequate of the uh Again, if he was forced ghost you'd just be half of veta's suit Well, the helmet and he just looks terrible and horrible Yep, this is me So I have a question because i'm not up on the discourse in terms of like the remastered and stuff the redos re-releases So is it controversial to like the idea that boba fett's voice sounds like jango? I don't think so. I think people are okay with that because I like that I think that makes sense and I think that's one of those nifty changes Certainly helps continuity. He is a 100 clone like yeah, so he sounds like yeah, so I was like, okay That would make sense. I suppose if someone was to say well, I always like the original voice And I don't like the new voice so that would be their argument, but um I'd be like, okay. I guess I think switching that is cool If anything that's a um that brings up I don't even know if I want to bring up this conversation because it could take us a while but like the idea of um You know, we're very cool with updating games especially to fix shit And since we're heading there sort of with movies where we can own less of them And they're more like streaming services and stuff. What if they were like You know, so good example would be pretty much, you know, we've got um with game of thrones and Mandalorian they had errors, but they were brushed out of just updating the video files that stream Yeah, and so if we had like a major fucking error That like caused huge problems for the story and then they chose to update that file so that that thing wasn't that thing anymore Like what do you guys think? Yeah I'm fine with that With the asterisk at the end of that statement being like as long as they keep it relegated to Like fixing actual like meta errors for instance Because once you start changing the content itself, I feel like it could Like that's where it's starting. That's where it's starting. Even then i'm not necessarily against it depends on what the change is For me, I think and I and it's interesting because I think this applies It doesn't even apply to games and it's such a weird sort of thought in terms of why is the difference with the mediums and I would like to try and figure it out definitively, but um I think I want the initial version always available from the moment it was released and then there's a constantly updating one Yeah, I think so. I think that's a good healthy, you know, I kind of like wow classic versus Yeah, well because the um the really scary thing is I don't know Ridley scott's like, you know alien I need to update alien. It's broken in a couple places. Like please don't touch it old man Yeah, then I don't know if you just said it because I was reading something like Depends who does the changes I guess that's another thing. Perfect world. I think the fear of it I would be super keen on it. Yeah, like if you're only ever used in the ways that Most people would agree. I like this is really beneficial. Then I think we'd all be fine with it But I think we all worry it would be used to destroy things Yeah, I think we could oh, what if you know in the future? They're like, you know what? I fundamentally disagree with the message that was in this film. I want to change it for the modern audience exactly Yeah Yeah That's the thing like in theory. I'm okay with it Yeah, so I was gonna say my conclusion is uh, I think it would be really neat And it could work to benefit a lot of things but no because I don't trust you Yeah, and again ministry of truth somebody just said in chat What if the government starts getting involved in this like the government can can start patching movies To uh, yeah, and they're a gender at the time And if we look back, you know decades and decades like what if when you create something it is It is what it is. It's a snapshot of when that you know things are things can truly are they are products of their time Everything from jaws to dual to smoky in the bandit and all that sort of thing those are Part of what makes those interesting to watch as decades roll by is that they were not made and updated They are from a different time Well, and we've got examples already of the the the realistic worry Which is that say for example stars is bought by a company like disney and then there's this one scene That's a little bit controversial with something happening and they go, you know what I don't think I like that scene from that 1978 movie or nine movies. Sorry, we're gonna we're gonna drop that scene It's just like no you mean like to do it already for china. Well, um, this this this being on like Uh, what was it splash they covered her ass up because they don't want people seeing it So that is that is one of the most like holy fuck. Where are we gonna end like what's gonna happen? I know that people will be like, oh no, they covered an ass. Are you okay? It's like it's not about that It's not about the ass Guys, it always starts small. How many times do you have to explain this to people that never start big Slippery slope argument. Well, you know what this is what slippery ass slope. Okay Yeah in 2013 remember our dead space three microtransactions. Oh, it's just dead You know, it's not that big a deal now fucking every game has him And we'll and we're never going back. I suppose it's time to bring out the quintessential example Who shot first? Yeah and You know, so the more I think about this the more I don't want it. Yeah imagine so So not not even like so imagine think it. Well, you know, what what were we talking about earlier on? art We were talking about Impressionist art and baroque art and all that sort of stuff and I'm thinking I cannot imagine Ever What I'm quote updating those to fix their mistakes I was thinking The rolling stones have a song called gimme shelter fucking great song and there is a point in that song Where the the the singer I don't know is I don't know the names of these, you know people But the the vocalist the singer for that song his voice cracks In the song and when his voice cracks when he's trying to hit one of those really high notes Yeah, one of the other band members makes a noise they go like whoo it becomes As a result of him cracking his voice and it's part of the song, you know And that that's it gives it a lot of character and that's that's an interesting thing about the song that that happened While they were recording it and they just they fucking rolled with it and they made it and that's the quote-of-quote official You know version of the song and it has that quote-unquote error in it Um, I couldn't imagine. I'm changing that or even considering that like fixing the song um I Well, the more I think about it the more I really don't and even when it gets to gain bugs I'm like even like that's the most palatable example, but even a part of me is like Well, maybe the bug man, you know, maybe some bugs are that's part of halo 2 That's just a part of that game I mean, I'm like, yeah, like I look at res evil 4 that I love and there are some bugs in that and you're like There's some part of the bugs that make the experience what it is And of course I wouldn't say that you know if the bugs weren't there then you know the fact that you know The experience is what the experience is But I mean, I I I guess the more I think about it the more I just kind of want you to leave things alone This is the thing I think the monkey wrench is video games And it might just be because it's been the norm for so long that we're not too worried about that changing Um, well look at cyberpunk and you're like Oh, is it should we keep it the way it is like fuck no And if someone was like so it's a threshold then it goes from broken to like at some point It's charming and then it's broken. I'd be like I don't think that's good enough like I just think it's a matter of we're so used to it with games And it's not really happening a way with we don't have do we have a like who shot first for video games? Well, I think there is Well, I think video games. I'm sure there is are the only one of Well video games are the only one of these mediums. That's interactive. I look at a painting. I watch a movie I listen to music, but when it comes to video games, I have to do the thing And if there's a bug that gets in the way of me doing the thing That's different Well, it's undeniably different. It's just how much I think I think it is that video games can be broken Can I don't think I think it is very hard for people to accept that a film could be broke And and this a video game can be broken in a way that no other piece of content really can be like it could just not function So you could have a bug that just makes the game not work whereas you're actually you're hard Yeah, you're hard locked out of the game like you actually can't play it Yeah, there's not going to be an issue with a book where it's like Oh, I now can't read the rest of the content in the book or like the movie You're gonna have a dvd that breaks, but that's not the film. You can still yeah You can still read a shitty book and you could still watch a crappy movie But you can't play a game that is like broken to the core where you can get hard locked out of the ending Or or the game freezes and there's never playable again or like and so it becomes So so there is like a clear demand to fix those issues, but with like a movie It's like well, no this is content that we dislike not. Yeah, it's it doesn't function And if you look at it as a product when you buy a video game like like all products when you buy it you expect it to work Yes And pointing to a video game not working is a lot more objective and clear cut than saying that movie doesn't work Unless it just doesn't turn on or something like you're not guaranteed Yeah, like when you go to see a movie you can't say well I just I thought I'd like it more or I thought the story would make more sense Like that would you you can't get refunds doing that. I think you can in some places. Um, maybe Especially but that's more of a that's more of a just we just want to keep you happy So you'll come back the next time. Well, yeah, it applies to all products Disatisfaction, especially if you're making enough noise Um, well, so I was gonna say scenario then like um something like no man's sky Where um, they keep updating it to the point where everyone's very happy, but they keep let's say Whatever storyline was in that game. It's obviously different for what it is now So this applies to more than just bug fixing The games I think we apply this Quite liberally in terms of like if if someone goes, oh, you know We just mentioned released and then a year later they released an update that gave it a few extra Rooms in the mansion more ghosts and a story chapter that wasn't there before To make things make more sense as well as fixing what bugs were in there I still don't think that we would be complaining Like we would be with movies getting it. So I really do think like games They just it's just been something about them. Well, it's just been the way that it's always been as soon as they were able to update them in real time It seems that we Maybe it just has to do with the fact that games were on the forefront of that ability to even update because it's entirely Like a digital thing And so it's like games were immediately able to do that whereas with movies and stuff it took time to catch up So I remember when they first like started putting movies on steam I remember being like what like how does that fucking uh, it's like well, why wouldn't it work that way? They were easier to stream than games are Yeah Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I didn't mean to open that can of weeks. That's a long that's a big Real complex. I'm not sure if there's a clear cut answer to this one heavily Imagine someone imagine this night a cut was the way it was on release and then there's just some guy Who's chipping away at it after two years it becomes the the the weed and cut Just keeps getting updated until it eventually becomes that Some would say that's a mockery others would say. Oh, you know what a little bit better Oh, well, maybe it's also just video games that eat. Well, I was about to say video games are easier to amend But um, like once they're out because someone can just dive into the code and start changing it Where's like with a movie? I guess you need to reshoot scenes or recut scenes Oh, well, obviously the examples I was giving were ones that were done in a moment as soon as they were aware of the starbucks cup They just cut it out with like one technician probably just did an airbrush Yeah and Which I find super interesting but we all because when it happened I was just like holy shit That's something they just did. Is there a conversation to be had here? Like we just edited the tv show. Starbucks exists in westeros. It's confirmed That wasn't what I meant. I just meant like we just we just delved into an active piece of like streaming tv content and changed it Now, I know it's small But we still did that and then I was thinking like Um, you know lord the rings kind of did it with the the car in the background I think the extended editions don't have it because they got rid of it Yeah, I think it was only the it was only the theatrical I don't think it ever made it into any cds or dvds. Yeah, and so I felt like that's a different distinction There's a different almost releases While You know you're watching that game of thrones episode you pause and then you go to sleep because like I got got a show Danny tomorrow and then you have a power cut and you reboot it up and you're like, oh, yeah, look at this It's gone. You're like, what the fuck Is I imagine that? I don't know it's interesting It is interesting to talk about but we don't talk about anything interesting on e-fap because we just don't understand themes or character Or heart or soul or anything. It's fine. Don't worry about it. Whatever To parrot a point from discord why logic as opposed to any other objective standard? I appeal to the fact that logical stories reflect reality Uh, look at how you define story. You should be able to derive it immediately out of that Yeah, a story is a an account of a series of events. So that their requirements to have that be a thing Yeah, like, um, why is you know, why is a fork not a knife? Like well because of the universal law of non-contradiction and excluded middle I think can't be something it isn't it has to be what it is just basic basic stuff And um, and I find that um, we all appeal to this standard whether or not like like literally all of us because It's there's no other way to do it with story. Like so if you're gonna compliment a story It's incredibly rare that you won't appeal to something in reference to something else in the story And that's the the fact that it connects where it pays off is why you're praising it um At least when regarding the writing something you react to it. I mean the I mean you're All the stuff even if it's you have to like Like you have to see things you have to react to the things that you see and the things that you hear and the experience Like there's all the reason for that stuff and if you don't have like there are prerequisites for what a story You know is And those are just the foundational aspects of that that we kind of use Something that kind of like solidified it for me was the that initial talker just right a guy who's like Hyper experience of reading all kinds of storytelling literature looks down completely on me and wolf. He's like gosh you guys you're cute with your little objective so cute um but like uh His video of tlj at the time It praised tlj for nailing loads of connective pieces and then you expose how one of them isn't a connected piece He's highlighting it as one, but it isn't one and his response is just silence It's like oh Is that it is that all we got it's like yeah, so whatever value you were drawing out of that is built on like a hollow ground It's it's there's nothing there and so how do you account for that and you just don't and it's like oh Well, I would like to separate out the ones that do and the ones that don't Or the scenes that do and the scenes that don't the lines that do the lines that don't Yeah, if it goes back to the post modernist art, you know the sort of thing if it's all equally valuable If you know one piece of content or media or art or anything is just as good as anything else why try Like it's all good And you know Appealing to it until it doesn't work for you. That's bullshit It's frustrating I guess you're like, oh cool. We're on the same wavelength until it doesn't work for you now We're on a different one. It's like I was valuing this whether or not it made sense Okay And at that point kind of just makes shit up Yeah, and at that point it just evolves into absurdity and there's no point to any of it And like there's a reason why you can so there are some things that Can't be measured in a in an objective sense when we get into movies But if you can make a compelling case for it and you could justify reasonably why you think the way you do like even that has Aspects of you know, we could see reasons and there's through lines there and we can discuss it and It's it's a conversation starter Yeah, it's so useful to build on to instead of nothing at all Like we often advocate like whether or not you completely agree with everything that we say Surely this is when we make arguments based on references That's way more useful than nah, it's all meaningless Or rather, it's all meaningful and all meaningless. It's all anything anybody wants And if all of your feelings are equally valid regardless of whether or not They come or they are derived from a thing that's true or accurate then You don't even you don't have to think hard To imagine the insane implication that has to not just the what's going to happen to the craft But the way that you live your life because no one lives their life like that But when they're faced with it, that's when their brain has to Make amends. That's when you have to pay the proverbial piper in your mind and come to terms with That aspect of you know yourself And it also means you can be you know, some things can be more correct than others Even if you don't want to even if you're arguing with someone who wants to appeal the absolute truth Like some things can be more correct than other things You know, it's probably the one of the there's lots of most convincing parts of this But another one is probably the we're aware of the other ones like the other ways of doing it We think they're really shit We have like really good reason I think for it Then a lot of people like who do it the way that they do You know, we'll claim they're aware of let's call it our way Um, but then when asked like very simple questions You can see what happens in real time. I think twimper is one of the best examples Yeah, and we've there have been people whose videos we've seen But we have not covered. I know there was one who thought, um God, who was this fucking idiot? Uh, he thought that, um He thought that we think objectively good means Popular a lot of people have said that And then I'm like, how would how have you ever I I I don't even know how you can get that idea We have the knee-jick response to objectively bad is I'm pretty sure someone liked it. It's like wait, what? Why would that even be Sure, why would that even be a counter that you'd think is Who are you? Who are you? um Oh, wow, I was not paying attention. I just died and I shouldn't have I can't believe people are defending loghain uh low gain low gain he had the kouselund kouselund Turnies, yeah So if if you play as the human and you choose the noble origin as a human then um Your your last name you're the kouselunds and low gain attacks your castle and Essentially kills you. Yeah, kill kills your father your mother your family and destroys the castle and all that because You wouldn't side with him in this political meeting that was gonna happen You were loyal to some your your father would be loyal to someone else um But yeah Yeah, low gains and actually that is a piece low gains a piece of shit. He's a bad person Was it a company with people defending low cane? Uh, he had the kouselund Tain or tourney tourney assassinated before ostigar because they would oppose him in the landsmeet Landsmeets always called all right um Man, so every time that I felt like bashing my head against the wall for all of these terrible writers getting jobs out there That was worth something golly g will because bat dude um Yeah, they don't want to I mean they don't want to grapple with the idea that oh if all feelings are valid Then that means all the people I fucking despise and hate and call nazis It means that their feelings are valid too, but I don't want to wrestle with that concept. So That was the was that 2016 where it was just like it's okay to punch a nazi though You know like the the the idea being that you shouldn't really punch people but you can punch them and it's like guys Okay, you call people nazis if they don't like a star wars movie I don't know if your ability to accurately identify nazis is really up to a up to snuff here It shouldn't require an argument anyway. So come on. Do you really not see where this can go? Again, it feels like really immature very immature Hello mohler Just because efap just before efap. I finished watching the 1978 superman movie It might be my favorite movie even as years go by I still feel inspired watching christopher reeves superman Also, howdy rags and fringy Hello, hey It would make a lot of sense to be inspired in that movie. It's it's it's from a different era We're not allowed to do that anymore. I don't think But heroes can't be heroic and wonderful and they can't do things like work with law enforcement It's just it's it's such a I like that movie quite a bit. Well a lot of good stuff in there It's part of why jack snider garbage part of why I get a little smirk on my face with justice league when you have Superman coming in and being like I'm here to help. Is this guy still bothering you? Like civilians. I've got to help them Just like it's so generic almost, but I'm just like, oh my god. Where's this been? I miss this It's almost not generic anymore because we don't see it anymore. It's become like a like a Parity of the thing that used to be real But it's been so long that you can do it now and kind of get away with it It's probably um, I find the tick incredibly charming. He um He's like brain dead, but his very simple personality is is essentially the very bare bones of that kind of hero And the fact that you'll walk into a room and be like Villain, I am the tick and I'm going to defeat you today. It's just like I love this guy You are facing the tick Yeah, and uh, I don't know enough grim dark. Can we get something that's just like chill? Yeah, just one chill thing Yeah, that would be neat Modern art was literally CIA propaganda. Look it up I think I'm good. All right, uh any of you masses watched kung fury Yeah, I think I did. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. Wait, which one was that? David Hasselhoff and the raptors and Uh loads rifle in dim bunker. I just wanted to grill I know that feel man. I just wanted to play video games, you know Like luigi's men's new yorbs Just let me play luigi's match God's not dead for efat movies when No promises, all right, who knows Uh Watch paint dry. There's a huge plot hole on how the paint goes from wet to dry. It makes no sense. Hi rags Hi Yeah, I was a little bit confused by that part in the film. It's kind of bullshit properties are just changing. What is this? Paint doesn't even have an arc. I think there was no character. He was so dumb Is he talking about how like some uh, some substances like um Linseed oils and some fatty acids. They don't when they dry quote-unquote. They don't actually dry They just they physically turn like in a son of cellular level They turn from a solid to a or sorry from a liquid to a solid structure. They don't dry out Is that what he's referring to maybe I don't think so like maybe paint is the same way where it just Chemically it doesn't dry like the the moisture or whatever it is inside It doesn't evaporate eventually it it just physically Like combines with the oxygen in the air or something and I don't know. I don't know Um absurdism stare into the void and laugh at its face Oh, yeah do it Uh, the ghost's on a diet of burritos. I heard that's how you get lots of muscles like abbey. Ah Oh, yeah The fast track you will Imagine if superman killed a group of superheroes because he's evil and wants to hide it his damaged clothes are the only clear evidence So how dumb would it be for him to keep them in his house? Yeah, I'd want to destroy those Uh, yeah, that's like a standard approach to uh Covering that up right clothing is one of the first things you want to take care of Especially got blood splatters on So well done fringy for having your point proven also I claim complete and total credit for the debate for getting metal to say debate sk on stream Oh Wait, what was me? It's all your fault now. You're you're a you're a partisan. You were you were just a Nameless force and some proxy war between two other people I mean, yeah, that's just my stream. I know There's a congrats on uh having a point proven fringy Oh Fringies is thank you fringies is thank you Uh, hello rags. What are a few gameplay improvements you would make to re2 remake? um I I haven't played it that much and I don't care that much about it to really think um Uh, I don't know honestly. I'd have to think more about it and delve back into the game again, but If I if by suggesting things I would essentially just Be it I would change things mechanically that I like and I would try to do it in a balanced way But that would probably just change what the game is Uh, so I don't know Alrighty then You guys hear kate kane got recast recently. Yeah, we've not seen it. Um, but I we're aware of it Twitter wouldn't allow me to be not aware of it the uh The batwoman stuff will be starting back up now model combat has had its day Hope you guys enjoyed that one. That was an easy three hour efab movies And I am genuinely going to be looking forward to doing the two sequels Uh So get it done hollywood assuming that they are going ahead with this equal to the 2021 one. I don't know How about get rid of coal young that'll be a great start Who's coal young main character? Oh, yeah He died tragically of a brain aneurysm in between films I say tragically, but yeah Like I would I would want them To to to be like Just there's just a corpse in the first scene. Then nobody ever uses it and you can just tell it's him. Yeah It's been nobody even regards. I mean, thank god. He's dead um Hello, you beautiful massives have to recommend the lord the rings audiobook by phil dragash or drag dragish I don't know. Uh incredibly immersive and has the music from the films. Hey Oh, that's a good idea There you go. Anybody looking for something like that? We're nuts Apparently kathleen kennedy's contract is up at lucas film and she's not getting reinstated I I've heard that a lot. I I've heard so many is kathleen kennedy gone things. I'm skeptical But if that's the case, I mean good I don't know man. I feel like stars is dead regardless, but sure. Yeah, you know, let's hope Let's let's hope I don't know. Why is really big? Why people saying that though? I don't know. I don't know. That's why I'm like if that's true good I mean she was not like maybe because uh the day for lonely promotion, but that was executive creative Officer, right and she's like the head I think that's a different thing. Yeah. Yeah. She's well. I'm confident in the different things. Yeah Yeah I don't know. Maybe I mean, maybe she is out or she she won't be around much longer. Maybe she's gonna get movie bobbed and If that's the case then you know good You wonder though, because I'm pretty sure she's like want to be I mean her tenure at uh um Lucas her uh lucas film has not been like the highlight of her career But overall she's made a lot of money over the course of her career Because she's exactly produced a lot of spielberg's movies Yeah And she hasn't left apparently so like she's still there um I think they were saying her contract is going to be up. Oh, but then I guess they might just renew it again Not only, you know, we will see sort of stuff, but like let's just say they announced officially. She's leaving lucas film She's being replaced by ronald mcfist or some person We just we don't even know that I just be like hold your horses everybody. It could get worse. Yeah, I'm not saying it's I'm gonna say yeah, it's I'm not saying it's gonna change much, but it's you'll roll the dice is what you're saying. Yeah Yeah, I'll absolutely. Yeah, sure. Yeah, something different. Yeah. Yeah there's Pat To the person who asked in efat mini 138 catch up about how to make good puzzles This is not comprehensive But I think the first important step is to establish a very clear defined simple but robust rule set and then a bunch of garbage to learn Well, like portal, right? And that's a that's a really good example of that a fundamentally simple mechanic with lots of different I think that's how most puzzle games do it again And they've drip feed you the um the changes, right? And then they have puzzles that integrate the older things you should know about already to be like oh now What are you gonna do? Like oh my god Oh, I gotta go upstairs. What am I doing? Uh puzzle setters is an otherwise rather niche hobby too that could be worth looking into Even looking into the old standards with well-set institutions around them like those who create sudoku puzzles and crosswords Fair enough puzzle setters is that like a A particular brand of thing or is that a general like you you set puzzles? I don't really yeah, I'm not sure Um In generic terms now that you have your defined rule set ask yourself What rule or method you want to test and challenge your player with? Know where you want to end and establish where you want to start and then you can use that question to chart a path That's the thing. I haven't really thought too far into um How to how to go about constructing puzzle sort of maps and gameplay, but um, I'm sure there's lots you could uh Give advice to that would would really help I like to do like me more puzzle games. It's a fun And uh that is up to date on stream labs and the stream we're in right now I'm gonna read some from 138. We'll be darting between resident evil 8 stuff and normal stuff Uh, did you know the mk scene where shang sung gives kung lao the suck is kind of terrible? Sonic xd did a great video on it also has 48 cuts in one minute Impressive um The uh, I'm pretty sure when we were watching it. We were just baffled the protagonist man wasn't helping He just just didn't seem to give a shit really annoying There's uh kung lao seemed like pretty pretty good dude You just let him get his soul sucked I learned that modern art was cia weapon in college. It's not a wacky conspiracy They have admitted that they funded modern art to show how free the usa is all right I don't think it changes the fact that plenty of people Create and love modern art So um, that would be what we're addressing more so More or might I interest you in a screen crush video avengers why ultron was right and knew about the scarlet witch It's quite tizmy I'm I don't want crazy fan theories for how it's all gonna make sense when you think about the whole mcu in terms of where It's that or anything Ultron was retarded. There's no way around it He was very dumb. It's really sad for for a super hyper advanced mega ai He was really stupid This is the thing if we were like trying to design a story for ultron I'm like, I don't know that we can allow him into the internet. So I don't know how we beat him at that point Be really hard But they did and they didn't really address it Resident evil and a vp are the same movie same director and writer both have an underground structure. That's blue booby traps Yeah, I mean, you know, there are similarities, but yeah, just because they both star that black guy And he gets turned into cubes in both of them as well That's just a coincidence. Okay A really weird coincidence though I wonder what the timeline difference is because a vp was I want to say 2003 and then Uh resident evil was 2001. I'm not sure He just likes cutting that guy up into squares Do you guys ever use the punisher pistol in re4? I usually sell it Um from memory. I'm not sure the original pistol on re what the punisher pistol on re4 I sell it. Uh, so if you if you break all 15 of the blue medallions You have to you have to break 10 of the blue medallions to get it However, if you break all 15, I think there's 15. I think there's eight in the farm and seven in the uh church I might be reversing those numbers But um if you get all 15 you get the punisher and it comes with a free damage upgrade Which puts its damage at 1.1 Which is 0.1 higher than the default pistol and it will go through two people which is yeah, it's nifty Not a big deal though, but that's kind of nifty um I generally sell it because it's basically just free cash um And the piss and I don't upgrade the pistol or the shotgun because you don't really need to And uh once you get the riot gun you're swapping to that anyway um And if you swap to a pistol it would be the red nine just for sheer damage If you have a pistol at all my current professional run. I don't even have a pistol. I sold it. I'm just using uh tmp What a rag someone said that was a terrible weapon. Oh, well, they're wrong uh But I always keep about 80 pistol rounds on hand so the game knows to not drop Uh pistol ammunition for me because I always have a certain amount which means that it'll tend to drop normally it will drop Uh rifle ammo is what I've kind of found that causes it causes enemies to drop rifle ammo only in groups of two or three But two rifle rounds, you know that could be you know, that's still that's still potent You can do a lot with two rifle rounds, so Uh there you go That's uh, yeah, that's what I like Would you rather write a story with movie Bob or Zach Snyder? So here's the thing it would be Zach Snyder because that means I get some fucking inside info on his thought process And I think that would be kind of fascinating to see how this crazy man creates art Yeah, and the thing is I guess I need more info on both of them if I was doing it from a perspective of how much I get to Have my stuff in there. I don't even know which one would block me out more Because they're both kind of nuts Uh, it would be amusing to work with movie Bob. I think but yeah, I probably go to Zach Yeah So friend of mine asked me what I thought of resident evil eight Just gave him about like a a short rundown Because he just yeah, he just got to the heisenberg fight and he just wrote back to me I think it just killed optimus prime. Yep flashed him as prime flashed him as prime If you could add anything to re4, what would it be? I'd give leon better weapons in mercenaries mode as well as add louis to uh The mode louis louis sara. Um, if I was so this is actually this is something I've think of when I start streaming Or I stream the game. I'm probably gonna go into this quite a bit There's all there is a lot of things that I would change about resident evil 4 And there is a lot you can change while keeping the spirit in the feel of the game very much intact um, I would change the delago fight and I I won't go deep into this but I would change the delago fight into a two-stage fight So that you can preserve the boat and harpoon element. Um, I would change the u3 fight Entirely. Well, maybe not entirely. I would definitely rework the u3 fight um There are some changes that I would make to how enemies behave not super Big ones, um But I there there was a lot of adjustment adjustments to make along the way But it's super the game is really good and it's one of those fixable things where you could definitely improve things along the way Um, but there's a lot that I would change especially when I when I play it over um but there's There's a lot that I change but it's a big topic and it's something that I want to give some Uh, a little bit more thought to but then again, maybe the free form discussion of oh, how would I fix this kind of off the cuff? Uh, could be interesting as well yeah Uh, the talos principle is a pretty good puzzle game too bad the story aspect is so limited As is common with a lot of puzzle stuff No, yeah, I don't think I've ever played talos principle, but I a lot of people recommended it Yeah, I've heard of that. I heard it's good. Uh, seems to be rated pretty well Molo, what's your biggest issue with age of ultron upon rewatch? I thought it was way better and more consistent than I remembered It's a good question. Uh, we actually watched that Was that about a month ago too long ago? Yeah, some like that and I I mean I still liked it. I like the movie. I like it because the characters are mostly okay Yes, if not, yeah, there's a lot of good. Um, there's a lot of good character stuff in there There's some I know this might sound stupid, but there's a lot of good setups Like the relationship between Natalia and uh bruce Oh careful, uh, everyone thinks it's terrible Oh, do they I think it's I think it's pretty well done. I think it's very interesting I think some of the dialogue is pretty nifty I think that one might be one of e-fap's hot takes because I think you fringy and I all think that the uh The natasha bruce stuff is actually kind of good So let me let me this makes me wonder is one of the reasons why people really don't like it, especially Retrospectively because they just sort of dropped it and so it seems underdeveloped because it never got a continuation I think the criticism would be it comes out of nowhere. That's what people usually say I don't think it comes out of nowhere. I mean it is this totally a um a stem for this uh relationship I don't think it comes out of nowhere, but they could set it up better. I suppose but I don't have an issue with how it You know it it manifests. I don't that's not my that's not an issue. I have with it I mean, well, that's the the issue people usually take with it. Um, and so like I would just be like, okay, so she was sent to get him And it seemed there's an implication that fury sent her Um, it's in the film. I can't remember. I think she said something to fury about this but he it's like did you send me on purpose because fury was hoping that the two of them would uh Find some camaraderie in the way that they feel about themselves being that she's She considers her past life to be that of a monster and obviously he's dealing with being a monster as a you know, that's the connection they can have and um You know a lot a lot of stuff happens in a Avengers and then we begin age of ultron and apparently they've got a connection that she can revert him from hulk to bruce That's a little bit of a jump. It's like, whoa, how did that happen? Um, and I'll give that but once you've got that and then you have just a couple conversations I'd say that's is that enough for them to have a relationship at that point. It's like, yeah seems to be um the other people in the world take issue with um Here thinking of herself as a monster because she's baron which is I think a very uncharitable Interpretation of what is happening in that scene and I I don't know if anybody in like the efab circles actually think that Um, yeah, you're not like yeah, I I'd see why somebody would be I I definitely see why people would be sad If you know, especially if you're a woman and that was something that maybe you wanted Well, it's just that she defines a lot of what she thinks can cure her past life as creating and maintaining a family, right? That's like a whole thing And so the inability to have children, uh, is a huge deal to her Not that it wouldn't be for anybody. Anyway, just the there's bonus baggage is what i'm saying um But the problems with age of ultron. I mean everything to do with ultron is a good start. Yeah There's like one good scene with him and then it's And even then it's not great. It's just sort of like cool character wise and then he does stupid shit in the fight. So Yeah, and then as soon as you figure out what he's trying to do at any point in the movie It seems like he's not making good decisions really at all Yeah A little bit frustrating, you know Kind of no I don't remember that being a facet of a character in any of the films. You don't remember Scarlett Johansson, sorry. I always say that black widow's desire. Were you gonna say scarlet witch? No, Johansson, but we'll scarlet Johansson plays black widow on speaking infuse with scarlet witch No, I was also once kids No So the character black widow is played by scarlett Johansson I was gonna say black widow instead. I started with scarlet Okay, I'm glad we cleared that up. Yeah, I know So, yeah, it's it's well frankly scarlet. I I don't give a damn Ah, nice Um Thank you So, yeah, uh black widow's development. Let's get that. Well, I mean I got it. That's good enough Yeah, but you're you Uh So her character in i-man 2 is it's not really much there at all. I don't think black widow. We don't really find much about her No, she's nothing character in that baby. Avengers gives us a big block for her And it's quite good and uh the baseline is she's trying to make up for her past life then um I would argue it's gonna be a collection of the other movies that start to develop that she's I would say civil war is probably the one that does the most work in making clear that She wants them all to stay together and be good people and do good things and stuff in from their perception stick together mainly as the What she wants, but age of ultron is definitely the thing that uh planted that seed for her character Yeah, she wants a family Um, it's definitely like I don't know what you would pull from black widow if not that Because uh, she ends up you can tell that she doesn't care about signing the accords or not It's just about staying together And we see more of that in end game because she is the one character who's coming out of that movie All right, but like widow is coming out and it seems to be about her actual family She always has Gets me very worried very very especially because hirak is completed with um Like basically the ultimate challenge for a person whose desire is to start and maintain a family is would you die so that that family can be completed It's like she does Good stuff. Now there's this other family that exists. So Yeah, I don't know what this film is gonna do I'm so worried about that movie Wait, have I how many items have I even gotten? I wasn't paying attention. I got them all I just I forgot how many times I have to fucking tap a on this when you collect all five of them and then give Into a hero in all in a row. You have to like Watch like a fucking assay Um, marry sunshine is the best game in the series I don't know about that Might be the worst Uh, I don't know that there's ever been a mario game that's as buggy as sunshine I don't know. There's a level as bad as the pachinko one because it doesn't fucking work properly, but I could be wrong I know that none of the mainline ones are gonna be able to compare in terms of A sloppy build, but yet it is probably my favorite Well, the game that you narrated was really buggy Oh, nice one. Nice. Yes Yeah, man, how does it do them all? It's that searing pain What pain what pain? Wait, it's an orgasmic pleasure, but I say it. I it's bizarre What do you think happened? I I've misread the entire situation. Let me scurry into the From this scary place Uh, you skip my chat. All right one sec Wait, I can pause this game. Haha. It's not Dark Souls I tend to forget that sometimes as well when I'm playing something. That's not Dark Souls. Like, oh sure. I can pause It's really nice. I found out my friends think halo 4 is better than halo 3 and the other halos. They're fucking wrong Yeah, what's the follow-up there? How do I save my friends from this madness? Oh fuck man, like they're beyond saving. Yeah, honestly, I don't I can't believe that they would even say that It's like it's like people who think that the last Jedi is better than the empire strikes back, you know You're just yeah, but like how How do you arrive at this place in your life? So we got to go back to the basics of what you value and why you value it Yep From what I understand halo 4 is very bad It's the big thing with halo 4 is that a lot of people say, you know multiplayer is dog shit Everybody seems to agree with that but the campaign's good. That's the that's where the hot take comes in that the campaign is not good Um, my god, it's actually probably pretty middling I'm not sure if I could say bad yet because like the story if it wasn't part of the halo universe Oh Man, oh, I don't even know if I'd say it's it's good Um considering the stuff with the world building and like the actual narrative itself is pretty weak It's just the characters and they're inconsistent with how they were before So yeah, it's not good. Um Well, yeah, there you go Obviously, I don't have actually any If you have friends who feel a certain way about a thing is like, I mean the true advice is just like Yeah, I mean they do they feel that way, you know Yeah um Thoughts on smallville the show I It's too long It's funny for me because I watched all 10 seasons, which is not a short amount of time to spare duds wallville And I only did it for james masters I enjoyed the the five episodes he was in Yeah, um, but I don't I don't remember hating it at all. I don't think it was particularly great writing But I had fun It's probably some really good stuff mixed in with some other stuff It's probably is uh The the thing right of like how old network tv shows that had not great production values probably At least okay compared to what's coming out right now I think what you'll probably find is it they're very very just, you know, standard stories Each episode probably just has your really standard approach. Just does I remember in that? It's like a comet or something hit something happened that gave a whole bunch of people powers I was season one. Yeah, there was a bunch of uh There was a meteor shower and there were a bunch of people with powers and then like so it's kind of the It was kind of trying to do the buffy. Well, it just generates monster of the week. Yeah Totally how they did some big overarching villain or plot Yeah, obviously, um Lex and line the Lionel Luther is like the villain for most of the earlier seasons And it's like building up to Lex taking over which is neat the actor for Lionel Luther was great I remember him being uh something of a he was a bit of a giles in the uh some of the seasons Right Funnily enough. He was played by I think his name is John Glover. He plays the mad scientist the poison ivy kills at the beginning of Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I remember that. Yeah, now I remember now it's starting to come back to me some of that small build stuff Obviously, he should have had more roles is Clearly great Hello e-fap to free. I think Metroid Prime is the best though. Subjectively. I enjoy the second the most. What are your thoughts on the trilogy? I feel like Metroid Prime probably is the best one If I had to say and I think I actually do it is my favorite as well I think I think it is both the best and my favorite. Um And then probably two and then three. I think I think I preferred two more than three one is Fucking phenomenal. I love that game so much. Um echoes is really cool. I love the like it's like, where do we go? And it's like the light and dark Yeah, it's like I'm nice. That's cool They did a good very well. I never played the first. Um, I played the second and I liked it quite a bit I just never ended up finishing it for whatever reason at the time. Um I I I played the third and I just didn't care for it I was never never got into the third one for whatever the third is a bit more linear than uh than the the other ones It's uh, could you jump between planets rather than staying in, you know, one location? I think so you get your ship and then travel different places. So it's like three or four broken up Levels I think because it starts it starts with the spaceship and then I think the the first planet is is it norian or I never played it. Damn Have you not played three? No Oh, um, yeah, I think it was norian was and then there's there's uh Brion or maybe I'm I'm mixing up the names and then eventually you go to the uh, I think it's the space pirate home world and Yeah, it's it's it's more linear than the um, then like prime prime one is is uh Just metroid super metroid in 3d. I think is uh probably the the simplest way to describe it It is like the metroidvania translated to 3d and it's amazing It's one of the coolest examples of like nailing a transference from 2 to 3d Absolutely. It is a super morris before esk Leap, I think They nailed it Nintendo would do Can't believe that that's my Discussion we had about how Nintendo they're not that great and making games. What was it said exactly? um, he just he's he's not a fan of nintendo for um, it comes from the Pokemon that's the main thing that makes them say that Which you know pokemon seems like a bit of an anomaly for nintendo because otherwise they're I don't know nintendo just have like a They just make good games. They just have a really you can count on them. Um It's it's it's nice to have that sort of rock almost in the gaming industry Like you can count on uh on nintendo. They're really about the mechanics and good ideas. Yeah, that's right They are well, I think I think splatoon's a clear example of that It's like they don't make a lot of new IPs and it's like splatoon. What a great idea for a video game Yeah, it's a shooter But the objective is not to kill other enemies. It's to cover the the map in as much ink as possible And so the winner is based on who covers and and then you can use that ink to like traverse around really quickly That's a great idea for a for a shooter so unique And i'm pretty sure splatoon was like immensely successful. So I think nintendo should just keep doing that Just make these new IPs and have these really great core ideas and um, but and somebody said cries in f zero. It's like, yeah Yeah, um, I mean cries in metro prime How feels at the moment or just metro it as the whole um I thought mercury steam was gonna make uh a remake of fusion But I don't know it hasn't come around yet because I'd be happy we got 2d and 3d metroids coming out Yeah, I really love zero mission to play the shit out of that Yeah, it's a superman. They're really good Splatoon 2 has sold more copies than the last of us that doesn't surprise me at all It's funny. I started laughing and like wait a minute that actually no, of course it did splatoons are usually popular Yeah, as far as I'm concerned just like well good Well, it is it is good. Oh wait. Sorry. So it's all more than the last of us. Not the last of us, too Well, I think it would have sold more than both right because I think platoon is one of the highest selling games Just of like recent years. I think um, let me see splatoon 2 sales Um splatoon 2 has sold 10.71 million copies worldwide No, more than that. It's sold as of march 2021. It sold 12.21 million Copies worldwide, which is twice as much as the first games Hmm, what about other worlds? Oh like yeah on other worlds. Yeah I think that is more than the last of us. I don't think the last of us two sold Let me see the last of us two sales And of course this is ignoring that super mario odyssey has sold like 30 million copies and super smash brothers has sold 30 million copies Um breath of the wild so the the attachment rate for nintendo games to consoles is staggering. It's so high um It's I imagine it's it's kind of the envy of the industry Yeah, we say it a lot where the whole of people buy consoles for the games like sure But when it comes to nintendo people really buy the consoles. Yeah, they do Yeah, it's that's the reason why I have a switch is for nintendo games um Though admittedly even if there weren't nintendo games on it like if some of these games were on pc I probably still would have a switch because it is so functionally Unique whereas ps5 and xbox just you know, they're like my pc but uh feature locks And not as good. Well, maybe they are better than my pc now. I don't know but still It's um nintendo has something to offer. Oh, um, we don't have the sales for the last of us two overall All we have is its first month Okay, at least right now. So it says it sold 2.8 million copies in its first month Yeah, because I heard that the drop-off was pretty substantial for the last of us two um Well, I think I think that's tends to be the case for a lot of uh, a lot of like Um, these types of games right nintendo tends to have more sustained long-term Sales, whereas a lot of the games have come out that are like, you know, the the storage room in ones They have like a real Peak like the launch is big and then it drops off it says I don't I got nothing here. Like I can't see where the actual sales are overall all they have is just for the first couple of months Apparently, it's the highest grossing, but that's not what does that mean? Third highest grossing game ever in the u.s. Why can't you just tell me how many copies? It was like when uh everyone halo 5 came out the like it made the most money It's like did it sell the most copies it made the most money No, it's offered did it sell the most copies we later found out it did not It did not sell the most copies They included the attached rate for like x boxes that were funded with it in the sales That's that's why when you talk about most sell sold games ever you have to like discount We sports is like what doesn't count Yeah, um, but then when you but then it's i do discount super maro world because I think that was uh sold with a lot of s n e s's Uh, I think you probably would have to and do the same rule Well, it's not about it's not about quality Highest selling games of all time. I know that minecraft space pinball. Would that be uh, Space cadet pinball. Would that be one of the selling games of all time? Here's a uh, here we go Here's something that we got so minecraft is number one 200 million copies sold, uh, and then the next one is grant that makes me so 145 million copies Um, then tetris uh by ea on mobile in 2006 is 100 million copies and then we sports at 82 million Then player unknown battlegrounds at 70 million Super mario brothers at 58 million and then the first pokemon's mario kart 8 Uh, that slash deluxe collectively is 43 million then we fit and then tetris on uh n e s So, I mean if you bundle that all together if it was like tetris is probably number one, right? Animal oh my holy shit animal crossings new horizon is already the 16th highest selling game of all time. It's been out for a year It's sold 33 million copies. It did holy fuck. Yeah, dude. Nintendo is making bank like that's That's why I find it interesting when people look at the stuff with sodium xbox It's like Nintendo was in a world of their own making so much money Damn making so much money. Oh, it would have been a good idea to buy nintendo stock in like 2014 or 2015 That would have been the time to get it when they were at their lowest But apparently witcher 3 with all of its dlc included is 30 million So there are a lot of new games on this list um pokemon sword and shield I think animal crossing came out at the perfect time because that was when the lockdowns were starting to happen It's like hey the world's going to shit. You want to live in a little island with a bunch of friendly animals and just plant like flowers and dig up relics It's the game everybody needed at that time I mean, it's just it's not it's like stardew valley. You know, it's just uh, it's just a nice game to just People like to chill out games started It's like 10 million and that was one guy wasn't it? Yeah concerned day That game's great. That's that's like the the peak indie game success story, isn't it? One dude who was like this is a cool idea for a game and i'm gonna make it and then it was like one of the best selling games of recent years Hello mollaren rags could you guys give Each give me your best impression of fringy's impression of an american I don't even remember what his was to I don't think that's a thing I could do to pretend being fringy pretending to be something else Yeah, that's that's like peak acting, isn't it really? I don't think I can do your voice anyway. So it's just like I don't think that's gonna work I'm so sorry I'm not sure rags could do it either because it would be him trying to do an american accent but kind of not as Accurate I mean the gist of it Hello efab Do free I think metro prime Oh wait, I read this one already It's all good. Hi everyone in chat come up with movie names for rags with rags's name on it quickly now lull Wow Rags to riches feels like the obvious one I don't know if they're maybe they're just talking about memes like lord of the rags, you know Star rags just just replacing full full metal rags full metal rags Captain uh the falcon and the rag soldier He's just dressed in rags and throws rags of people Like he throws rags at people Yeah, like he has really super power. That's just something I would a person could just do Yeah, but punching people is something a person could do. That doesn't mean You're like black would do if it's punting seems more effective than throwing a rag at somebody You know what these are super rags, all right? Oh, okay, that's fair enough. Oh, okay. Well, as long as they're super. Yeah, they're super. Yeah Uh, when do we get a comprehensive look at the mcu movies that predated efab you guys haven't covered? Haven't oh, it just says you guys haven't covered, right? This talk of age of ultron gets me moisturelicious. You massive well Give it time and the mcu arc will probably begin the dce u arc is um I'm gonna be coming to a close sooner rather than later. I think I said close, you know catching up to present time Yeah, the mcu one will take a while 23 movies, isn't it? And we're probably gonna deliver some hot takes throughout it I'd imagine Yeah, yeah, you know one of them will already be taken care of within the next week Oh, yeah How neat is that? That's nice Uh, how would you rank the buffy and angel seasons worst to best high rags? Hello All right Worst to best you got Probably buffy season one is worst than angel season four then buffy season two Then we're gonna start getting a little murky because there's a couple at the same time Like we're it's a mixture of buffy season four buffy season seven angel season one So all of them go up Then a mix of buffy season three and angel season two and three Gonna be a selection with them Then If I haven't missed any buffy season five buffy season six and then angel season five Which is about me as well. I think that's uh, it's bowser Um Um, so yeah, that's I think that's about right Subject to change of course To clarify my earlier chat my friends believe halo four multiplayer is the best in the series, which is an even worse opinion Yeah Damn well What can you do if they had the most fun on it, you know Yeah, I remember when I played halo four and For the first time on xbox and I was like, okay So like there's clearly correct decisions to make here when it comes to multiplayer And there's very clearly very wrong decisions to make You thought there were too many dmr's in halo reach Wow, when then you let people take dmr's into their Any battle that they want man Well, that was one of the problems with reach was that it was especially on the mcc when it came To see yeah was every game was dmr's i'm like stop with all these fucking dmr's pc You know with dmr's kind of just all dmr's I think they had to finally change like make it its own playlist non I think I had precision slayer. Yeah, so it was regular slayer with like, you know Rifles or sngs and then precision is like with dmr's Yeah, I can get away from all these dmr's dmr's are too good to just give everyone dmr's Yeah Fringy you're wrong Slipies are absolutely better than frosties I don't what that what I don't what up? I don't understand Like they've proven you wrong. What else can I say? I don't know where this has come from though Well, if you don't have an opinion on it, then I suppose they made this up Cool, that's what that is. Also molo, can't wait for your mandalorian video ragu eta on gamethrone's episode six rage um Hmm You know, I don't want to make any promises. I don't want to make any promises Because there's a lot of stuff to go through because episode six. I mean wow. I mean we all know episode six So I got to really go through all the info. I got us. I got to go through all the characters and the words and Other things that they do and the walking around and stuff. Yeah, it's gonna take me a while gonna take me a while There is no greater health than when you haven't drawn for a while And you try to do it and it's just not working and you hate yourself and want to die So it's all fun. I feel like there's a few hells that could be Maybe I don't know just why why can't you just beam this skill into my head? What do I have to try and get good at it? I don't have to practice Good at this The creepy flower alkohoid tisms in the dollhouse made ethan hallucinate away the combination to his inventory suitcase, I guess You'd still have his gun Yeah in his knife That part's so lame for that and they'd be like lol you're not guns now Because he was even like present of mind enough to say oh my guns are gone And No No, actually So bad Hey evap if any of you watched the sopranos and if so, what are your thoughts? I love it, but open to hot takes on it I have not watched it. I do hope to Oh fringy, can I get your best impression of rags doing an impression of you and do it in your best hyzen big voice His his thing is like ye shrimp on the barbie. Yeah, that's that's like rags is what's I gotta do with hyzen big though No, uh, what so I need to do his impression of an australian. Well try to sound like hyzenberg. Yeah So how the I don't see how they're compatible Well, your voice has to jump around like a kangaroo Yeah, so I would have to up and down and up and eat ethan winters Eaton winters This is impossible Ethan winners Up and down Okay, so it has to be shrimp on the barbie. Yeah Uh Can't kangaroos Yeah, like that would be I guess that's I can see it. I think that's rags australian. I think that's what they wanted. Yeah I think you nailed it Got their money's worth that's for sure that that was uh, that was that was uh, that was an ordeal that was difficult Oh, there we go Uh, this is something you missed mine apologies. Uh, hi rags Could you and molla have a conversation with you using your hyzen big voice and molla using his david jones voice? I like your voices Oh, that that could be something we do later on. I can't do it now though I've got uh, I had to perform under pressure, but you fucking what do you think he did too? Yeah, I performed as well. We performed together. Yeah, I you know what I think I did all the heavy lifting that's Now it was only it was only heavy because you're not used to it. That's the thing. That's that's the thing fringy It never gets easier. You just get better Yeah, all right, sure whatever Um Hey, it's chaseway twitty again. Hi everyone else Hi, hi I'm not sure who did it, but thanks for I think it might have been you rage. We're talking about the rocketeer So I've just been looking at uh, Dave Stevens the guy who did it. He's a really good artist and it's really good reference Yeah, it's good stuff. I uh, yeah, he drew a lot of uh, busty bitches You know what I'm all for that busty bitches Yeah, a lot of a lot of pretty ladies. So that was that was this thing that he did Dave Stevens Yeah, the guy who created Rocketeer. I think he did a lot of um, from what I understand he did a lot of um Like pin-up drawings. That was like a thing he did while also doing the Rocketeer Massage is like drawing Well, you know what this I feel like this is what what what is it when you like just love people women? Like what is that? Is there a massage rate? Yeah, I guess what I mean is like, you know, because we have we have Missanthropy misogyny and what's the one we hate everybody? That's um Missanthropy. Oh So what is it when you hate men again? Uh, miss Andrew. Yeah. Okay. So there's misogyny, miss Andrew and myth and myth So, yeah, so so the answer is just super straight But no, but women can be straight too. So there needs to there should be one. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Save the hot takes for Yeah I guess that's my question is what is uh, what is the um, what's what's the opposite of of misogyny? Missing tree Yeah, no, no So when you not when you hate men, but when you love women, what's what is that like when you just love them a lot There's probably a word for it. I don't know what it is Feminist No, because feminism has to do with like Like I don't understand how that could possibly be the one All right, what is the opposite words out there? Okay, what is the opposite of misogyny? Oh not misogyny, but they're all gonna say missanthropy. It's not miss Andrew Don't missanthropy miss edge. Fuck hell Would it be so would he um Those people was like being normal Okay, so it's the lodging. Oh, it's called phylogeny. That is a fondness love or admiration towards women The antonym is misogyny Oh, wow, you learned something. I've never heard that word before You learn something new every day Well, I mean, there's probably like that's the thing with those sorts of things It's like there's probably a word for it, but nobody's got it because it's weird to be like Well, no, it's just it's just weird to spare. I would argue the reverse every like those people saying normal in chacks It's like, yeah, it is. Oh, yeah Like other people. Yeah To like men and women You know men women all you guys out there. You're right. You're all right but um I think somebody said that this that Dave Stevens would get cancelled in 2020. It's like, yeah, probably You get that impression I don't know why good art Oh, now what's the one for men? Yeah Wow, I was expecting rags to actually suggest feminism again, but he didn't Feminism I like eight well enough Go ahead. I I I've learned something new So because philanthropy is the opposite of misanthropy. So phil is the good one Phil means good in this in this little thing I do like phil, right? All right, I like eight well enough, but I could easily tell it wouldn't pass the objective scale Subjective seven out of ten I don't even know where my feelings on resennial eight would land at this point I feel like if I left it alone for a while and then played it again in future. I'll just be like, this is meh You know, because I've lost all of the initial like fun part Of not knowing what it is. I mean Uh, don't cave to pressure ignore the last super chat Oof. What happens if you have two super chats that both demand opposing things? What are you supposed to do? I don't know. You just need to be like a robot. That's why I do all right, you know This conversation reminded me of misanthropony the youtuber where I first heard of mohler Yeah, um I believe The uh, that was the one that said they weren't going to be making a series as long as me And I think they did And then I think they made a new video where they were like that wasn't supposed to be like an insult I think I was like all good Uh, nintendo is great lots of mixed feelings towards the skywood sword re-release on switch though Uh, yeah, nintendo is a bit shitty when it comes to like their remakes and stuff Or their hd remasters instead of funneling them all together. They're like 60 bucks with skywood sword a 10 year old game I wasn't happy enough with the The packaging of 64 sunshine and galaxy like I just like the It's kind of baffling that sunshine is in four by three. It's like you couldn't Been doing anything about that Well, I don't want it Stretched I want just like just wide screen. Yeah, like I'm pretty sure modders can do that with the dolphin. I just I don't know. I just I remember being like, um, I wasn't even happy with like fully the controls I think that there was um, I can't remember what it was now But there was an option that wasn't available because they just didn't have anything for it Or something. I remember being dissatisfied I haven't touched it yet. I just bought it because I wanted it before it uh, they took it off the market Whatever fucking reason they did that And I I I don't I wonder why they didn't put in more of the 3d games like galaxy 2 and 3d world Fuck it throw 3d land in there as well and 3d 3 Oh, yeah, if they could port that and hey, I know they wouldn't put odyssey in there But if they did that and man, what a bundle Yeah, and it makes me wonder about the price at that point I'm just like is it worth it and then obviously the skywood sword would it's like no Like it's Yeah, well they did that with wind waker on we they did a 60 hd update. I got that for free, but I wouldn't have bought that Um, and they did it for twilight princess too. They just keep doing it Anybody remember how awesome the hydra triple barrel shotgun from re5 was that gun made wesker stars in mercenaries Uh, no, I don't I didn't really play mercenaries I don't know if rags does Don't piss anything might Okay, we'll just move right along In short, just go full van helsing hell. Yeah, I would have loved that in re8 if they'd done that Especially where the lightsaber was if we just drop that and instead have his, uh Automatic crossbow fucking yes That'd have been so cool Instead they gave you a wank saber Baseball bat Ethan isn't a turnip. He's a router bay router barger What is that? I don't know. I Sounds funny though It'll be interesting if heisenberg was based on frankenstein's monster And he had a brother that was a wolf and is under orders to keep him locked up by mother maranda and that's why he rebelled I mean, there's so much you can do they didn't do anything That's the big problem you see Long lady is pot skaven die man thing die Pretty sure that was just to get people around I've seen so many of you reacting to a saying man thing even uh cosmonaut People find it attractive to be called man thing. I don't know Like mel you're usually into this sort of stuff. Can you confirm? Uh, that's a yes No Is that no though Oh man. Oh and the end of that was the worst 3d zelda for full price after 10 years. Yeah, that's just a That's the deal with skyward sword. I haven't even played skyward sword. I just know that that was uh You know people weren't happy that which is People are just masochists, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, they're like being called man thing Like I was like i'm offended. That's probably that's probably a slur Can't be doing slurs racism So Uh every time I see ethan's hand it reminds me of scary movie 2 You take my strong hand see that's all scary movie 2 is to anybody edible It's reduced to one reference And you know there was probably some good jokes in there other than that one just saying Can't confirm that because I I like the one where you fall down the stairs with the with the wheelchair The other guy comes I was like, oh my god, are you right? It's like, I can't feel my legs like yeah, that's Since like five years or so. It's like, oh, yeah, no, then i'm fine. Yeah You you like making fun of disabled people. Yeah, okay. Oh, absolutely. It's hilarious That's pretty fucked up. I'll let chat devour you for that horrible take you just had Though I do appreciate you referencing something other than this dank hand Yeah I don't think it's an old joke or anything guys just saying everybody references. Okay Gotta find a different gimpy hand um Markiplier caught that he was a moldy person right away. I was surprised also. Hello everybody chase be quiet She is mama booba Well, we already knew we were a moldy person But they never justified that that was the reason we survived all of our damage that that was never like I was just confusing. I remember throughout all of red So this is we posted um on discord Uh, and it's fine. I wasn't talking about anything. Anyway, let's go right ahead. Sorry No, finish your point. Please go right ahead. No finish, please. I'm sorry the They were talking about So the the whole justification for Ethan being invincible Is something that markiplier apparently spotted the thing is that was all the way through resneval seven You already had your hand chopped off. So the only way it could make sense is who was that But that was never something people entertained because it's fucking absurd and you can die It doesn't make any sense um So like spot, I don't give points for spotting that that's just I remember people being like, oh my god That changes everything in the stream. It's like that's that's just cheap like We were invincible little you're not so and then you die so died So yeah, just just cheap and terrible You guys will find this very amusing Zack snider was doing an interview. Somebody asked him this question What's your response to martin scorsese and others criticism of superhero movies? Uh, zack. Oh, it's fair martin scorsese is a genius if you're really good at something commenting on that world Is completely within your rights and it doesn't diminish my respect for him. I'm certain he wasn't talking about my movies Ha ha ha. He might have been but I like to think he wasn't he met the other ones Wow, oh boy I'm certain he wasn't talking about my movies because I'm awesome, right? All right guys Come on, please someone No one, okay Jesus I mean I don't think scorsese's gonna have watched any of his but Um I mean, that's just dunning kruger, I guess it's like zack would be like He's just unable to recognize what his even are so he would just be like, yeah, of course mine are immune to such criticism Okay, how could he be done in kruger though when he's been doing this for like 20 years? Happened I suppose that's already bolstered it. It's like he hasn't he hasn't you know stopped they keep giving it a buddy to do it so Must be doing something right there would be people who will say that it's like how could you he's you can't deny he's successful You're like, I don't as if that oh, okay. Uh, you can't deny that marvel is successful Michael bay, right? Yeah, Michael Bay. You can't say he's successful transformers. Oh, sure I doubt people are gonna want to like it because that's the thing if someone said like what you're saying If I said to someone like do you agree that he's kind of on Michael Bay's level which is funny because I think Michael Bay is probably better Um, I think so I'd have to watch a bunch of his films to be sure but like I don't I don't believe Michael Bay has ever tried to His heroes are probably heroes. His villains are probably villains. He's pretty honest. He's pretty honest about what movies he makes Isn't there that quote? I make movies for like 13 year old boys. What a crime Yeah, I mean uh Thing that they're like nonsense and stupid and stuff, but you know It's all in the right places for lack of a more specific way of putting that like is yeah Oh, right. Did you not hear any of that just before? No, I had to step away Okay, so uh, Zach Snyder didn't interview with somebody and I asked him What's your response to martin scorsese and others criticism of superhero movies to which Zach said? Oh, it's fair martin scorsese is a genius if you're really gonna come Something commenting on that world is completely within your rights and it doesn't diminish my respect for him I'm certain he wasn't talking about my movies brackets laughs He might have He meant the other ones Sure, he did If it was me, I was like if someone asked me that I'd be like obviously it's absolutely fucking absurd I don't care who you are That's just a flat-out wrong statement and you're a fool for making it. I would uh, rather do a barb I'd be like it's really cruel that he would say something like that when there's so many people in this industry That are working so hard to create stories full of heart full of a creative vision They look up to him His movies would have inspired them to do this in the first place and now they he's he's just shitting all over their work And I don't even know that he's watched them Yeah, nice. I like that. I like that Where you think it's just what he said Totally wrong. It's funny because like Anybody who agrees with him. I'm always baffled. I'm just like, I know you don't agree with him if you're being honest It's just he said it The people who said are the subjective citizens people a lot of the true which is it gets really interesting Because like what does it mean to be cinema? But that is not art. That's not even art But everything's objective, but that's not art. Well, little people who'll be like, okay, so try and understand idiots The godfather that is cinema taxi driver would be cinema Jurassic park, I think would they would probably call cinema star wars would be cinema Um the avengers that is fucking that's that's popcorn cinema. Okay, that's like, that's just you know, like I don't get it What's the difference and you're like, oh You don't get it. Okay. Let me try again sure shank that's cinema Um fucking homecoming that is not cinema Like oh, they're both in on the cinema. They're Yeah, yeah, it's like at the best interpretation. It's like are you gutted for like Do you think that there is more to be pulled from sure shank in terms of meaning? Is that what you're saying? Do you think there's more of an impressive craft behind sure shank? Is that what you're saying and you'll never get the definitive answer because Of course if they were to give you the answer then you could prove it wrong Yeah, and that's not gonna work Gotta keep it nice and vague Yeah, and then you'll find that They the people saying this will probably disagree like one of them is like Jurassic park I don't think I don't know if that's cinema and then it was like no, no it is And someone else is like, yeah, you know the lost world is cinema too and they go. No, no, not the lost world Like are so much like this is a fucking stupid thing All it's done is big people are died all art just some of you are ugly I Zack Snyder more like hack writer. Uh-huh Calm down That's still calling him a writer, which is technically true Zack Snyder is the joe biden of the movie industry He constantly falls on stairs Has he done that? Well, he likes to creep on he likes to creep on little girls I don't I don't think I don't see how that would work. I don't I'm not even sure what they're saying. Does Zack forget things? Wow, I guess he like he forgot the the dark side forgot about the Oh, yeah, I question the legitimacy of his success. I don't get it He didn't forget that because remember he the quick answer was just like, yeah, he forgot He wrote it so that dark side forgot because he thought that was clever. I guess How very clever that is very well, you got to admit I mean, you know, we're we're we're pals, right between you and me and Fringy and metal and the However, many people hundreds of people watching between you and me though That's pretty great the forget thing excellent, yeah I mean it's just you know, like when you wrap a present, you know that bow and you just Oh It's all that's it. It's done. It's all wrapped up in that I picture that's how that conversation would end you'd be like Do you really think dark side would forget that and you name all the reasons he wouldn't and he'd be like Oh, yeah, it's been a really long time Okay When you put it like that Consider me convinced. I don't know about y'all Zack Snyder is a friggin lunchbox. I paid money to say this He's a lunchbox. He's a lunchbox. He's a lunchbox See and now we're dealing with the super interpretive again. It's like what does that mean? What is that? What is that? He's a lunchbox He is a box of lunch Which I agree. I mean, I can see a lot of validity there He'd be a shitty lunch. He'd be like he'd be like, um Oh like when you were a kid and you got a lunchable, but it was one of the shitty ones I mean, but you knew it was going to be shitty with Snyder It's never a surprise. No, okay. Oh, oh it still works because you are about to leave to go to school And your mom and you watch your mom put the lunchbox in your lunch bag And you know, it's the shitty one So you know as a kid that even lunch that tiny reprieve from the misery that is education You you don't even get to enjoy your lunch because you have the shitty lunchable to look forwards to And that is just a dark stain on your day and you consider running away Damn Is that what you're saying the equivalent of watching the Snyder cut is? You know, I think some parallels can be made. I think there's some accuracy in what I've said and I stand by it With the right attention you can play Sunshine in widescreen With an original Gamecube the game had the capability to be 9 by 16. Oh right alteration. Sorry. Uh, that's good I I don't see why that didn't get applied to the switch vision Unless I'm remembering everything wrong. It was possible. I said it. I'm picked up now in a while I was just like put off a little bit Um, it's neat that they did it, you know Is that That counts for something Any plans to watch army of the dead free fat movies? I watched it with a friend We had to watch it over two days because of how bad it was Oh, was there pausing was there pausing? Um, I saw someone in the eFap community mentioned like within the first five minutes It all falls apart. So I'm really interested like it's probably when they explain They're gonna guarantee you it's the world building probably like somebody says something about the world and it makes no sense Oh, the world's definitely not gonna make any sense. Do you get you I'm assuming if you guys have seen the trailer It's like you want zombies in Vegas? So that's the idea So now Because you're right your zaxanity like how do I write that and I picture him being like there was a zombies And then they went to Vegas You know like all right You nailed it and and then you could be like zax anything like you should make more sense And he's like no, it's about the emotion of it. Vegas is like where everybody was It's about the emotion of the zombies attacking Las Vegas Yeah, I I don't know When we may or may not watch that one, uh, no particular promise as of yet, but possible possible possible possible His movies are the emotion of regret just like In a purist form Man thing don't assume my gender Ethan Winters 2021 he could have pulled that and uh, maybe gotten it cancelled, but he never tried another plot hole Reminder that m is better than chase. Love you though chase just not as much as m Well, the war continues There's still people in like the comments for anything chase is on being like I fucking love his edition and he always like Works the great bounce off in his rants and the blah blah blah, but then there's another comment That's like you seriously need to stop inviting chase. He just derails the episode He maybe he's the most divisive guest in e-fabs history at this point. I don't know They teased vampires. Why then do the daughters turn into flies and not bats gameplay would have been the same I don't know Um, they just wanted to do bugs Was that their way of being like that's why the cold wind makes sense? Do you think that's why they did that? I can't imagine a resin evil game thinking of mechanics before story though Or like like having them try to coexist. I figure they just don't give a fuck. But certainly that game Instead of just doing bats they went all the way like, oh do we put their Bodies there and then the flies came and they got eaten But then the flies formed the body and now they can do fly things, but they also hate cold. So, oh Okay This weird why? So if Ethan so so if all of this all these shenanigans happened in the summer, there's just no stop Yeah, unless they're particularly high up and it's just a really cold area all year round Maybe maybe It's what a what a shitty thing to happen when you do experiments and the only weakness they have is cold in a Cold region. It's like, well, that's a shame Why not have it be light instead of cold? We we brought this up I think that it lends itself completely to doing light. You could have made a few tweaks and it would have worked just fine And it would have worked better for a video game because it's way easier to convey to the player the difference between light and dark Than it is to convey to a player the difference between two different temperatures And you fucking trick me as well when you're like This window if you bring them here because it's still wind blowing through it That's where you kill them. I'm trying to drag the game is like, no, no, no, you know, they have their own death seeds It's not here. You're like, what no They can't go here player stop trying to Do it that way. We hate you It's you know that for a fact the dev was sitting moving mom while i'm playing And i'm like, i'm going to drag it to the window the dev would be like, oh Yeah, the play testers who are trying to do things that were even mildly interesting or something. Yeah She's like, oh, I understand what the dev is telling me. I need to do this the dev's like, no It's neat that you thought that that was a thing though Wish I would have come up with that. It's cute that you thought a thing I I work 12 hour shifts and these e-fabs help me through the day slash night. I'm looking forward to listening to this tonight. Hey Very good. Who knows they may have even finished it by now. Who knows Uh, I gotta get ready for work. Hope you lads and chat have a great day. I'm sure we will It was a long day. That's what I know the years Rags thanks to you. I played hell blade. Thank you. It was amazing Senua's father's voice actor is also in witcher 3. I might get into witcher 3 just to hear him again lull Oh boy. Hey, uh, I'm glad you liked it That's an interesting game. I'm gonna play that after a while. I decided that Well, then I'll have to play it because I can't be out of the loop out of all of us It's the worst. Yeah, you can. No Well, I don't think fringy has any played it Wait, which one sir hell blade senua's actor? I haven't yet. No Come on. There you go. Um Is it like a like a six hour game as well because that's obviously another reason to attempt it It's like eight ish nine ish hours something like that. It's not long Yeah, to be honest, I should have played it by now. There's no reason not to Holds metal for that to what that I just decided when I play hell blade after auto-wiles Mel lives free. Okay. It just goes with the proverbial flow Maybe finish out your wife's and just dab and say I'm gonna play something else That's mel for you Yeah, everyone talks about ludonarrative dissonance. No one seems to talk about its inverse probably called ludonarrative consonants I think this focus on the bad one skews criticism toward the negative Well, so the problem is if for I think we would have let's say the game Has like some form of a fucking steak gun What it does, but what I actually mean is like a you know some kind of crazy fantasy weapon that fires steaks This is just really cool. You don't see you don't see many steak guns in games. They're not like Well, I guess you see them every once in a while. I they're I guess they're medium rare Yeah so It just exists and they don't give you any instructions with it but um You know you fire one into the heart of one of the vamps is to people when they're following you and it actually like You know activates an animation that she perishes into dust And there was no indication that you could necessarily do that. We would have brought that up as really cool and intuitive To be like it's it's great that and that's a really basic one. I think when you get into more like um Maybe you can if they were Uh able to be hit by sunlight But they're smart enough to avoid getting anywhere near the courtyard Even though the fucking oh, maybe you could peel down all of the boarded windows. Let's say it probably wouldn't I'm trying to because this is the problem with the fucking castle if they were vampires They wouldn't just have all the windows open the light shining in so it's like you have to change all of it but If you made it so that you could have lots of places where sunlight was coming in But they were smart enough to like realize that and react to it But then there's like a flamethrower where you can Uh sort of corral them into the room that you want and then you smash a window But you wouldn't need to smash a window But you turn on the lights or whatever and then they burn We I feel like we would all be talking about how cool these mechanics are and how well they were Yeah, it would be a it'd be a great sense to show progression as you move through the castle Is like even if you want to keep the players kind of in the same area over and over because that's great um But you could show progression by having you you walk in at first and it's everything's boarded up And everything's dark and there's not much light But then the more and more you take down You know the the blinds and open up the windows and light candles and chandeliers It turns into a totally different looking environment Which is mechanically different but also very aesthetically different But if you're asking us to pray something as simple as I fire a gun It shoots bullet and it hits enemy and enemy loses health It's like I'm not praising a game for that It's this way too baseline But I'm glad those things are working I suppose Um Yeah, I think uh the reverse of what we were mainly criticizing it for would be stuff Where I intuitively decide to do a thing and that thing works Uh not a lot of games do it especially when they're not uh intended It's really all they say intended is in like the main way they expect to play to solve it But if they come up with some other ones then go for it. It's like that stuff's cool I think the weirdest one for me was the The ceiling window with the lever Yeah, because I just started shooting the fucking ceiling It's like oh, this is like a like a hardened thingy because it's like metal And it's a property to shoot a couple of times. I probably waste like 10 rounds until I saw the lever. It's like, oh Okay, yeah, we it's just so obvious you think of course this makes sense because bullets go through glass because it's glass So I'll just do it. Nope can't do that because we get we got to have a timer It's got to be on a timer for this fight. You have to keep pressing the lever Even though you can just keep going back to the lever and pressing it pretty much whenever you want So it doesn't even matter. It's so dumb and this thing we we each had the different experience That was metals which is just definitively indicating how unintuitive it is mine was like Really standard. I just walk in and see it all happening and I'm like, what am I supposed to do with her? And I'm like, oh, there's a lever here. The lever opens the oh what why? Yeah, I just saw the I just saw the lever and now it's like, oh, I guess I'll pull this and then it opens up the top like Oh, that's good But my favorite one was still Fringies where he just springs into the room Sprints over to that lever and pulls it and then it starts shooting it as if it's just like, well this works She's dying I guess All right Just just um, there's so many examples in the game of just the design is so fucking unintuitive and uh Players have different experiences pierced like technically speaking. Yes, but like it's so Uh, so terrible each time you don't come out of that one Like I want to see the player who goes. Oh my god, that's so cool. The lever opens up the yeah Wow, I could yeah Everyone has different experiences with cock and ball torture. That's not exactly uh Indication of the scenario Because it's like how how miserable was your experience? I guess they will labor because that's what you do in video games. Oh, it opens the ceiling. That's fortunate Why did she attack me in here? Okay Is that one room in the castle that's just like half broken open It's like it was a big crack in the wall. Also. We've left loads of pipe bombs in that room I just yeah Don't attack him in the cracked ball pipe room store pipe bomb storage room There was for me the one where I was like Walked into the room was like oh cracks. Okay. I've already quit my pipe bombs and then I go into the corner Oh, there's even more pipe bombs here. Okay, cool. Well makes sense because this is the armory. I guess I was watching but then but then I threw it And it's like oh, it didn't break and look at it. Oh, I need to move the the dress. Yeah fragile wooden thingy all out of the way, which should have just exploded with an intuitive again You can explode it the fuck man um, I was watching jay long bone player right and she was like running around that room for a while not realizing What she was supposed to do I think and then uh She finally got the thing open and you can see the crack and she was like when am I supposed to blow it up with I don't have anything and then she was looking around the room. She went. Ah pipe bombs. Oh, of course And I for a second I was like no It doesn't make sense It's one of the more basic ones. We're just like there's a locked door I don't know how to open the door and then on the table. It's like a key and you go. Ah, of course the key It's like, yeah, I mean, yeah Congratulations rather than evil Before you kill the sister in the in the armory She appears in the main hall and she follows you as her bugs or whatever and um, you you go into the hall of like Joy or whatever hall of pleasure, which isn't a hall. It's a fucking small room or the statue in it and She won't follow you into that room So she just elects to not follow you through that door so that she can attack you in the pipe bomb Yeah, cracked wall room moments later and I'm like wow you just this gave me shit Thomas flights video explains gossaysie's real point of view on theme park flicks people a matter about the quote Uh, then big studios making everything Well, it wouldn't matter what he meant What he said was really dumb Like so if I said like oh, um, I don't know people are bad This one's like that's it's a really stupid thing like what do you want and I go? No, what I mean is that people are capable of being bad It's like oh I should have said that it was like that sounds different to what Yeah, and of course he's more than capable of not being inflammatory Uh I thought heisenberg sold meth. Yeah, I mean is What do you think he went somewhere after the end of breaking bad, right? No, hey that robot army won't fund itself. Yeah Again, I feel Perpetually blue-balled by the fact we didn't get to see Miranda flying around and using all kinds of powers against Giant heisenberg robot thing We just kill her we just watched them both do that. Well, you know, she's got resident evil stuff So what if she oh, yeah resident evil nonsense? Yeah, we'll just uh We'll go goompey and then he won't be able to kill her The ultimate defense I'm gonna leave you guys now because I'm sleepy. So I'm gonna go to bed. Bye mortal So you guys have fun. Bye. Bye. Sure You fat movie frankenstein's army Yeah, apparently there's a propeller man in there, you know, we could be like oh look propeller man That'd be neat Hello mola rags and others got to leave for work now Can I get all of your best down syndrome impressions starting with rags? Thank you I honestly don't know how to do a down syndrome Impression Isn't that like a huge spectrum as well? It has all kinds of different things going on I you're seeing people in the down specter the people who have down syndrome are on the spectrum There's a spectrum for what down syndrome covers Sure. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you want to hear my impression of down syndrome? It's a tragedy Yes I get Talk about how trash anime-ish ethans monologues are I mean, yeah, they're awful dialogue and you barely feel like he's a person And it's weird how many people were like nah, he's he's acting. He's like a human being. Okay, you don't understand If you were dropped into a hole and you saw a corpse you might just say oh my goodness a dead body It's like res new was seven never happened Yeah Yeah, almost like this replaced it Because imagine we had uh kano from more combat Uh 21 Yeah, 21 And he and like you drop down there and he's like oh fucking hell. What is this? What the fuck's going on in here? Jesus When the werewolf like fucking blows up a little hellish hellish nightmare that I drop into That'll be fun Good thing. I've got my guns Him going on adventures. Yeah Yeah adventures became like the old lady is like saying a bunch of bullshit and then she goes to close the doors And he's like hang on hang on the fucking stops the door from closing. It's like this. I do creepy bitch. Get back here Oh The limitless potential Oh, yeah, they're like to get rose you have to go to the castle dimitred. Well, he's like, oh fuck that I'm out of here. Where's the road? Can I just walk there with my legs? See this is already infinitely better Make the dlc cowards You have to gather the three stone plaques so that you can open up now. It's fucking stupid. I'm going over the wall It's climbing. I'm using my body You just jealous because you're old and you can't climb over walls Can't I'm sure you have loads of fun comments for dimitresk as well and her ass I can't get into that room. Let's like all the way back up. I'm not doing that The game was only just get along. Maybe he's like, yeah, it's lady. It's lady dimitresk. You know, she's pretty. All right Yeah, fuck rose He is an asshole. So fuck that Uh Like he visibly like once he sees lady dimitresk. He takes off his wedding ring and just throws it away. He's like, hey there How are you? Hello? Nice place you got Shame about the wildlife I'm from infinite potential Even is so shit You know like the piano puzzle with the iron key it finishes and he's just like what the fuck Why does this work this way that don't make no fucking sense. Oh, well, thanks for the keys creepy castle. Yeah Oh, well, I know what now I want to now I want a corg. I want to I want corg in the castle I'll just call it corg in the castle. Corg in the castle. That's the game Oh, thanks. Thanks creepy piano Thanks. I really appreciate you giving me that key. That was nice and um I think this key fits a door that we saw previously. It's gonna be great. Let's go over come on any Oh, what's the bug's name? I forget um meek Meek come on meek. We're gonna go open that locked door The shame you couldn't have just cut it up with your knife hands It's like super wholesome throughout the whole game Like dimitrass picks you up. She's like, I'm gonna fucking kill you. I was like that. He's just like maybe we could work this out You know nonviolently First option. I think we got off on the wrong foot. Uh, my name's corg. This is meek We seem to find ourselves in your castle. It's a lovely castle. It's kind of a freaky castle You're uh, your daughter's there. They keep trying to kill me and well, that's not preferred Not sure what i'm supposed to do about it Can we get more generic protagonist dialogue mohler, please? So just any word we'll do it like no Yes I have to do the objective of this game, which in this case is I have to find rose I have to save my family Let me save my family I have to do this. I was born to do this We have to stop him What you're doing is wrong We did it. That's the, you know what's funny? Uh, uh, how do I do it? The dialogue that the person comes up with when they swap bodies and buffy freaky is literally all of his dialogue Uh, if you know what I'm talking about, like she's just making lights up. They're all as good as as Cole's dialogue Just funny Uh, any of you guys play ghost of Tsushima and what were your thoughts? I like played it. I meant to play it. I never did my bad Maybe one day But uh, yeah, most people have come away really happy with that game as far as I know I like to summarize stuff the stealth mechanics are pretty crappy Bring back good stealth mechanics world world is uh, yeah, please do the that world is uh, Beautiful it's such a good-looking game. It's like a painting. Hmm It's like it's it's heightened realism. So it's trying to be realistic that like the colors are incredibly vivid at times It's like impressionist realism Yeah, almost because uh, just the way that like the wind and the uh, and the grass and the leaves falling It's very dramatic. Um Yeah heightened Since you whisked out of my earlier request, can you guys do an impression of chase and m arguing with each other? Someone play chase and someone play m You guys Just asking so much Well, Fringy, do you want to be chase or do you want to be m? Oh Um, do you have a preference? Um I'll be chase. I knew you'd want to be chase. You want to make his dialogue No, I just feel like I could do his dialogue better Uh, um, I can't wait for what you're gonna say. It's gonna relate to so here's what's gonna happen Uh, yeah, it has to I mean no one would be shocked by that Like hey chase. Um, I was watching this anime. Well, I was but you know, I had to spend time with my girlfriend And um, it was really good as a story about this guy and he finds this Thank you feel free to cut in whatever you want He finds this there's this anime thing that happens and it's really good and I think it's really well written And it's really What what are you talking about? Who am I in this scenario? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I was kind of I was kind of thrown for a loop there Um, I just think uh this just just made you guys I mean if you ever wanted to watch uh an anime You should totally watch this one that I saw the other day because me and my girlfriend watched it and I do have a girlfriend Um, and uh, she really liked it, but I didn't think it was all that good but I didn't want to you know, I didn't want to tell her it wasn't that good because You know, I've got I'm currently struggling to figure out what insurjection Moriarty would say that would get you like chase angry, you know Chase you're not Talking here. Oh my god guys. Just because I want to talk about anime doesn't mean you have to be angry at me all the time Yeah, then Moriarty would stop laughing The way so the way to do that I think the way that most of their arguments start is you'd have to say one word wrong rags You have to use a word wrong in a sentence like I have to yeah I saw this uh this anime I was watching the other day. It's called It's called grass roots of hori kori and um, it was really facetious. That's what I thought. I thought it was very very facetious Yeah, yeah facetious. I thought it was facet what what is that? Why why? Like just because I use one single word wrong now everyone's gonna harp on me and now the conversations come to a complete stall And we can't talk about anything anymore because now you I just I use one wrong and now everyone's losing their minds about it Fuck that is like an on point It's kind of it's kind of scary Oh, I because I can't tell if that was good or bad. No, that's where I mean it was it was it was really good It was uncanny Oh wow the um The way I think the way it starts though is it's not as all like so he would have said all of that and then you'd have more How to go like facetious Yeah Can you guys do slave and slave master impressions asking for a friend? Okay, this is slave master impression Are these characters or are we just talking about a weird role play thing? I don't have no idea. They just wouldn't ask sex role play Maybe I went rags to be the slave. No, no, no. He's a bad dog. He needs to be the slave master. Yeah Um Since you won't do my earlier Heisenberg versus davie jones impression frog man You are protag man rags. You're an arse and moley. You're still davie jones What So we need we need a story then. Well, this is just character Do we do we need a story? It's for just protagonist man to just prototype man. I have I have to save my family It's I you know, this is my burden alone expecting right to go. Yeah, this is some Uh, uh, you have to consider that your family is um, maybe in that castle over there Uh, they're they're not in that castle that shanksung took took them We have to go get them. I can't let them down I I have to stop him. She tell you what? Um, I saw your daughter earlier rose I'll mark it down on your map where she is and you can go in uh go fetch her She's on the other side of castle kangaroo Uh Because protag man isn't a character. I don't know What he would stay in response to that, you know, like I don't know what he would be feeling In response to kato, whereas I can see kato having a lot of observations Yeah, yeah, it's hard to work with protagonist man because I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what he would respond Uh, how he would respond to that Your roses in another castle Yeah No, actually that was the only castle we got Part of us in a swamp And this part's in the factory and this part's in the um It was it was just sitting over here Nice and neat nice and tidy Yeah, little baby head in a jar You know how dota has different announces as dlc kano ethan would probably be have people buying resume late just for kano ethan also hyrax Hi They really would and let's think give it to give it to us. We will rewrite all the lines the game will stay the same We'll just have the dialogue change It'll be funny Ethan will ask things like basic obvious questions and Insightful observations and insights into his character, you know things that you didn't get when he holds the The flasks or whatever and he's like this is my daughter like like that. We kano'd be like What the fuck am I holding? Fuck this What do you mean a person's in here? What the fuck are you talking about you fat piece of shit? Be be clearer Is it like a midget baby? If he's all cut into pieces, how's it gonna be a person again? This doesn't make any sense Well the implication was that when I got my baby back should be in one piece in a life Fucking idiot If only I've completely forgotten where I'm supposed to go I don't have any keys to any doors. I'm supposed to have grabbed something from somewhere Chat somebody one of you has been paying close attention because you care very much that I get this right so Well, where am I supposed to go? I've completely forgotten If if there's no answers, I'm just gonna go to the roof and jump off the the left side this time I'm pretty sure there's a chest on the left one. I think that's where I was supposed to go and I didn't We got this You think every time if kano is the protagonist in residual village every time the enemies would hit the invisible wall and just refuse to follow And he's like yeah, that's right. Yeah, you don't want any of this. Yeah, I could smell the fear dripping off your fuckers Whatever they they turn around so they get like released into it. He's like oh fuck Yeah, fuck for our conventions out Mola do better. You know what some good advice Really gets into the gaming mood yes The game was only popular because of lady dimitresk. I mean that's gonna have helped No, I think it's because it's resident evil. Yeah, I think I think I think you can tell from playing it like yeah, this will work for a lot of people. I get it Because they had no idea that the dimitresk would be what it was because she was You know, I think if they knew that ahead of time, she'd be a much more prominent part of the game Maybe even an anti hero slash quasi villain So that they could bring her back or she could potentially make another appearance Like I feel like you'd want to capitalize on that weird popularity Well, I mean, I think it's possible. They'll bring it back now because of that. Oh, yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, fuck it There's no rules. Let's be clear. There are no rules in resident evil do whatever you want. It's fine Uh, why does heisenberg drag you to mother Miranda when you covered in metal and he could just float you around without straining his back You know of all of the things to complain about in that game Fair enough The mold on the progenitor virus a different Miranda inspired Bensa to seek out the progenitor the t-virus g-virus t-vironica are from progenitor. I'd fucking as if I'm gonna be able to I I'd have to go and read the books that I this is the thing this is the problem with analyzing resident evil stories I'm just like I already know that it's not gonna make sense. I just like it'll be about figuring out exactly how it doesn't make sense Just like, you know what Can we just settle that it doesn't make sense I mean that makes sense. Not that we didn't have a lot of references anyway Fringy, what's your opinion on joe biden's book? Um, I haven't read Joe Biden's book. What's I don't know. I didn't know that he had one I guess you don't have an opinion then What's that? Joe Biden's book Is it biden? I want to know who wrote joe biden's book for him. All right. He's written a lot of books I have no idea. Read them all for any so you can answer the super chat I'm I'm really not interested in the ring Christ that yeah, Jesus. There are a lot of books. He's written Uh, who would be a better improvement of generic protagman kung fury or space cop also high rags Hi, I haven't actually seen space cop. Um I have seen space cop and uh with um Rich Evans is possibly like my favorite part of that film his dialogue isn't fantastic But there's a couple of lines. I really did like um And it's the character. It's almost like um A really immoral rich evans is basically what you get and the idea that I can get a Pack of that sort of those voice clips in the world of resiny way. It's like I would go for that in a heartbeat. I think You know like when you get your hand chopped chopped off yourself. Oh my god It would be great. I don't know if um, is there anything else you guys reckon about that or? Um I feel like I I would appreciate rich evans as the protagonist of one of these things because he can say he's funny and Insightful and interesting and I enjoy listening to him. Yeah, he's way better than the protagonist that we got I want I want to see I want to hear what rich evans would have to say if he was in that situation Mm-hmm He kills the first sister. He's like was it was it the cold the cold kill you what? Okay What is the wind? Is it the cold? Was it is it the light? Uh space cop efat movies when also high rags Ah, I don't know that seems like something we could do at some point. Uh, but I I don't know I'm not even sure who we would grab for that because it's it's a little bit of an awkward one Right because it's like, you know, I'm just gonna watch the Xerity know that whoever we show it isn't gonna think it's good Nobody thinks it's good. It's like So it's probably mainly just gonna be about talking about it in terms of a uh Well, they tried sort of thing Um In uh, it's every bad character in a game better off being replaced by kano like cloud from Final Fantasy 7 or what about the animal crossing villager? I'm having a kano living in a little village filled with little cute animals. I mean, yeah It's gonna be great to have him and basically any he's one of those types of characters. Uh Jack Sparrow is one of these characters where you drop him anywhere and it's probably gonna be fun Um, yeah, probably Yeah, you're legitimately interested on and just like how would they react in this scenario? It's probably interesting and I would like to see that Yeah Muba if ever you are going to cover movibob or critic I recommend getting pro crest itara She once critiqued movibob's book. She's a long woman Uh, yeah, I'll definitely keep that in mind So, um, I have no idea when we will next cover movibob. Oh, you know, it's a it's a dangerous thing to do something like that Ifringo moola and rags Hi, hey, yeah, I think you guys would really appreciate the thai film called fireball. It's about an underground basketball league Um, all right. Yeah, maybe And it's a virus monster into world is a good example. It's a different game to any other monster hunter game I'm assuming that was when we were talking about how the resindeable games changed through uh Through the years, I don't know Uh, whichever one of you complained the virus is all mold is wrong blatantly the spencer known the lab flat out says he discovers progenitor in africa I don't like we would have the point we were supposed to be making was just that uh, it comes back to moranda That's I don't really care about the specifics The point is like pretty fucking lame to rewrite the history of resident evil But I guess it's less impactful than when they rewrite, you know, some like star wars or a predator or alien when All links all back to this new bullshit Really frustrating as an audience at least resident evil stories are already kind of poo, but uh, I don't appreciate it Yeah Yeah, I even even as a somebody who doesn't know anything about resident evil. I don't appreciate it. Yeah Get out. What are you doing? I just don't like it when it really happens to anything It seems cheap and it seems like you just want to one up the people who came before you, you know Well, yeah, well actually it was the old this and that thing is mine I always find it really weird when like you see interviews where people who weren't involved with the original things say we like we I remember that was like dead rising. They're like, oh, you know We're going back to our roots with dead rising for it's like dead rising One was made by in japan and you guys are canadiens. None of you worked on that original game I don't understand why you're all here talking about how Oh, it's our roots. It's not your roots. It's somebody else's roots. She dug them up and planted them in your backyard I want to know the story of that where people go into other people's houses and dig up their the roots of their trees They're in their house. Oh trees can survive that right they can survive it I just I don't think dead rising survived it Not well dead rising them really exist anymore those guys got shut down Any ideas for next e-fap movies and when uh mmpr 1995 lol is crazy as the first mk Uh, we've got loads of them on the way the one that's going to be coming to you guys as soon as just Probably going to be the snider cut e-fap movies, but that's still going to be a little bit of time from there We're getting chunky e-fap movies lately Like two model combat films in one crazy Molly re six with rags bring alcohol. Thank me later. Also hi rags Yo, hello. Yeah, I think we'll do that at some point So no no huge rush or anything. We'll be fine Which would you rather play a game with a bad story and good gameplay or a game with bad gameplay and a good story? I would take gameplay Yes, I think that's been lost a few times if I ended up playing a game with a great story and like garbage gameplay I think the gameplay might affect my consumption of the story to the point where I'd be like fuck. I wish this was a movie Yeah Like I'm picturing it's like we're just trying to get to cut scenes But we're unfortunate that it keeps saying like now tap a y a y x x x a y I knew if you miss any you have to reset. It's like good god. You're destroying the story Uh, to be fair that looks like an expensive crib. They could have had it in storage until rose got brought into the castle Well, yeah, that was uh, you were speculating about that right rags. You were like it could be for rose, but it could also be Uh an implication of a different child I know a little parts. Oh, yeah, but that was uh, they did that lately, right? You mean recently or Yeah, I don't I don't really know because we Then again, now you're making me think because They didn't have access to rose until the day that you are in the village, right? Yeah, and then they just Separate her into all her little pieces and they don't they clearly don't care about the well-being of rose that much to get this Nice fancy crib out of storage so that she could hang out and lay them at rest's room. It's double layered then right? It's first of all They're barely going to be having rose in baby form to make use of the crib But secondly they already had that crib meaning that Must have been for someone else at some point, which is apparently potentially interesting story Element it is but it's it's a weird detail I think the only reason it exists is just to remind you that rose is you know a thing And I think maybe I think Ethan maybe comments on it and he says like oh rose I gotta get back, you know some stupid protagonist shit so But but you're like this doesn't make sense why this is here all of dimitres's daughters are all grown up They're adults remember so what a chat was like they would would have been babies at one point As if that explains why it's still there Hey man, it's good times Good times to the max bro Thoughts on sk and how the debate went I Would be surprised if it's not considered the best debate out of all of the efap ones and it's seven hours as well It's not there's lots of disagreeing It's not like some kind of like Both sides walked it in or anything. There's loads of conversation to make sure we figure out exactly what the issues are um SK was a good conversational partner an interlocutor it went well, I think What do you reckon roogs? Yeah, I think so. I think it went really well Funnily enough, I you wouldn't even be able to watch it yet Uh guys if if if it were releasing like today or whatever because it's um stuck in copyright for now. I'm trying to fix it Yeah, I I keep Harvard University claimed our incredible brilliant arguments as their own This is too educational on how they Uh Yeah, I try to keep visual references on a lot when we're talking about whatever scene Um that backfired a little bit because now I'm gonna have to put the cover on there And it will cover up a lot, but at the same time it should still be visible and uh I think I'm gonna try a 40 percent and we'll we'll see what happens But it will be out on the coming saturday guaranteed Um Fringed Fringed and ruggo rugs. All right I'd like to hear opinions on alternatives to traditional controllers slash keyboard hardware I think more people would get into dotas slash lul if they ever made something that reduced mouse dependency um Isn't that one of the struggles of using? I mean Because you having a pointer that you could move around seems like it's a really insanely useful thing to have So yeah, I assume game like that what you were about to say at the beginning There was what I was gonna say first just like isn't the mouse the result of this kind of thinking It's like really fucking good But what we have as little appendages versus what we can translate into like a mouse is just fucking great Yeah, they're pretty great. Um, I don't know what an alternative would be to it. Um Because if you take away the mouse and the keyboard You lose you're probably gonna almost by necessity lose a lot of functionality Because there's only so much because the keyboard is skirt because the controller is so limited and you got to make a lot of concessions You wonder how long until I know it could be a lot of time or whatever But like I watched uh some v-sauce episodes on and I think where they're already trying to crack like uh Uh sensing brain waves translating them into the correct sort of things that mean So if you have a prosthetic anything it can make it move the way that you're thinking you want it to move Yeah, they're doing that with uh, isn't that that ill or musting with that monkey that just blows on a It has like a a neural link or something and They put a joystick in front of it And so it needs to move the stick to put the cursor in the box and at first the cursor actually does something But later on they turn it off and they can just move it with his mind because the monkey is like moving the The joystick and then his head it translates to put it in the box It's so cool Yeah, maybe that's what's gonna make the mouse obsolete when we have controls that are basically just you put on a little Little hat and just like now basically in vr. We're in world at that point though, aren't we you know? Yeah It'll be like that episode of Futurama. Where are they? You know go into the internet and then they just put on their head foot And and like just travel into this world She meets like the perfect guy and fry just kills him Because they're playing oh that was I remember playing that really funny I thought that was so cool the idea of being able to play like, you know It's hanging on this arena. You're like finger guns sort of thing. Yeah, and do you remember like she puts her hand around her wrist and Like cocks it and then fires a big shot as if it's like a shotgun or something. Yeah, that's right Like I totally picture that being how it works. It's like if you want to use Weaponry that's yeah like stronger deals more damage. We have to make these motions All right, I can't wait then just the idea it's kind of funny because it's so impractical But the idea of walking around in a physical internet to get to different websites So like when they wanted to go to nabster they have to walk there Yeah Huh, what's that remember nabster? Yeah, that was fucking out That was uh, that was like 20 years ago at this point. I think napsed it when that was a long time It's what I used for my first little mp3 player that I had He used nabster Good times future armor was called kid napsed her That was kidnapping celebrities and putting them in To get downloaded which that's definitely going to happen in the future Not not strictly the robots, but you're like the same principle the likeness of like celebrities just in virtual reality Computer generated like people are just going to make a bunch of porn with you And you're going to be able to fuck celebrities in virtual reality. It won't be stoppable They won't be able to stop it and I wonder if the birth rates go to plummet Just relationships in general become less common Oh, yeah, if if we fast forward to the point where you can do what they do in future armor I genuinely would have that worry. I'd be like if people could just Have a celebrity of their choice in the form of a robot that Doesn't feel distinguishably different and even has AI that's good enough to just be what you want in a girlfriend Like we might be done That was what the don't date robots thing was. It's like the next day billy's planet was destroyed Can you guess what planet it was? It was earth don't date robots I like even when they were when he was dating the real girl I even flipped over the table about the important purposes and there was a baby on it Wonder if um the solution at that point we will have advanced medically to the point where like we're just Creating new humans through, you know, like maybe we don't need. Yeah The problem is it's a world that I don't recognize at that point. Oh, of course. Yeah, everything will be changing um What was it the the thing with billy? He doesn't want to get a job or Fuck it's so it's so prophetic, isn't it? He doesn't want to get a job He doesn't want to do anything or even date real women because he just wants to hang out with a fake barrel of the robot Fuck robots. Yeah, it's just like man. Does that sound like anything that's happening right now? A bunch of men who don't want to go anywhere Just want to stay at home in cell army Rags opinions on overwatch 2 and 5v5 I haven't played overwatch in like two years I it feels like I just haven't played it in ages Because I just hate blizzard So I stopped playing overwatch And I don't remember ever hating overwatch. I just was like play some overwatch. Sure. Why not? And I remember really liking it when it came out And I was like, okay, I'm done because this game's kind of like broken and weird and everyone's got everyone moves instantly overwatch 2 is kind of a weird one because it's like I don't think they've gone a good job of actually Making it seem like a new game looks like a just an expansion to the first one Just looks like a load for overwatch Yeah, well, I think they need to add more characters than they've announced I think they've only announced like two new characters. You need more than that Because overwatch one a new game Had like 21 characters So you need to you need to be adding a lot of characters if you want to justify this is a new game It doesn't matter if you add three or four new maps and then even adding that hero like campaign mode that they're doing I don't know if that's gonna Like the first game should have had that so I'm not sure how much it's worth, right? Titanfall 2 made Substantial changes to the first game. It wasn't just that they added a campaign Like the Titanon pilot gameplay changed significantly instead of three Titans. They added like their six All with different weapons and abilities you can customize Really radically different than a much bigger game than the first one. I don't know about Titanfall 2 though Uh, not Titanfall overwatch 2 Um, and plus yeah, Blizzard's rep at the moment is uh Not great Like how people like Activision ruin them. They are Activision Blizzard. All right They are not some tiny little subsidiary company. They are like half the company They ruin themselves It's like with Bioware. Oh Bioware got ruined by EA. Nope No, EA, EA is partly responsible, but Anthem took seven years to make. I don't know what I'm not blaming EA for that one I feel sorry for EA Yeah, hey, you've been working on a game for five years. What what you got for us. Oh, so we got like nothing We're still a pre-development or like, you know, pre-production. It's like, dude, come the fuck on What have you all been doing? What have you all been doing? You know, bitch. Yeah, getting paid. That's for sure And nobody's gonna remember Anthem No, it's dead and gone. Now they've just gone back to Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Yeah, people forget that You know that happened like now people forget Anthem Anthem was probably their most expensive production and it was not only it sold poorly and was the Most poorly received game that they've ever made It's real interesting to think about because when Mass Effect and Romantic and I was like, oh, this is the b team though the a team They're making Anthem and it's worse It's like it's worse At least as far as public's concerned Here the last Anthem update was Uh, they gave up. Yeah, February 24th Mm-hmm. They gave up. They were meant they were they were like, oh, we're gonna do Anthem next and then this year They were like, oh, no or not. It's it's done. We're done. We quit. That was what happened We're just wondering the pandemic has had an impact on our productivity and not everything is as we play Yeah, don't fucking blame covid for this shit. Don't you fucking dare? A lot of people blame covid for an increase in productivity. They're like this has made us, you know Um, there's a lot of places now that are like I worked from home for so long But now it's just become normal that we do work from home and that cuts down on Travel prices and time taken to do so Yeah, I mean, I think I think a lot of people would have a preference for working from home And I think that's what covid demonstrated. It's like, oh, this office thing is kind of like antiquated in a lot of industries Yeah Um Which is it's interesting You see a lot of like developer behind the scenes and they're like, oh, this is a big collaborative space And I'm sitting there like man, I want in my world in a professional place I want to be in the corner in a dark room. Like that's what I want I don't want to be in a big open space with my back to people My backs against the wall. That's what I want. I want to be in like a dark corner So edgy I don't like would know it's just I don't like uh, I actually really don't like open collaborative spaces I think that they hurt productivity in my case a lot um And I'm pretty sure that's actually like this is true because it's you're more exposed to distractions And the best way to work is to work in a big block Just uninterrupted rather than like you work for 10 minutes and someone walks by and talks to you For you work for like 30 minutes and someone comes by and talks to you but that seems to be less productive So I'm not sure how I would fare in a lot of development studios in these big spaces Yeah, I don't know Yeah mouse superior good mouse controller inferior pretty much There's still times where I prefer controller to mouse and keyboard, but Yeah, like driving sometimes controller still still cool. I still like him. He's right there. I was like, hey, buddy. How you doing? I wouldn't want to play Luigi's mansion with a mouse and keyboard. I don't think You have any of you played a lot of pcvr games? Is it worth the investment yet? I can't answer that question, but I do intend to check it out at some point Uh tanktism for rea. Ethan's tank uses american parts despite the is-3s out in front of the factory and romania only ever had one is and it was and an is-2 Um, whatever you've spotted about the inconsistency of that tank, it's probably true and it's again just I mean Yeah Like you're probably right Eva crew, do you think Bethesda's starfield will be good? No No, that's like that's made by the main team. So I don't care as much about that In fact, I think it's made by the full out 76 team. So Oh No, yeah, I just know them I I don't know it'd be nice to have like a cool new big science fiction rpg But like I'm just I'm a little blackpilled on Bethesda Yeah, me too I don't think it'll be good. I hope it is. I don't think it'll be good Well, they got microsoft money in pressure now. So maybe microsoft will actually make them. Oh, yeah, maybe Maybe they'll hold their feet to the fire and say like guys. You can't be fucking around I that might cost a lot of money I wonder if that will help like a lot of With like microsoft just buying these studios and and having just more money microsoft money and standards um Well standards, I mean crackdown three was pretty broken, but uh, but as a general rule I mean the fact that halo got delayed by a whole year Um, ask fringy to say nor No All right At this point, what about half-life three? I don't care. I I doubt that's happening. Well, the problem for me is was I I never usually cared I finished half-life two and I was like that was neat Yeah, half-life two was neat I um, I actually ended up. I think I liked half-life one more than two, which is really weird. Um But uh, I don't know. I think half-life two I ended up playing it after it was like Thoroughly hyped the fuck up by everybody. I knew that's when I played it Yeah, never. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I was like, okay. This is neat. This is all right Because I wouldn't deny that the game did change stuff as a trend set or it's something a lot of people try to copy all that sort of stuff And that's that's that's fine. It's just that when I played I was just like, yep This works. I think maybe it's just the fact that uh, a lot of what's come after it has done What half-life two does and when you play it, it's like, oh, I've played this before And it's not even really the game's fault because it's everybody else. Yeah I was the first thing to yeah do it like I can appreciate it, but Like I just find a way Everyone getting super like obsessed with getting that third one. I was just like sure I just I I wasn't I wasn't getting the feels of like, oh my god. We desperately need that half-life three I think a lot of people would have expected that half-life three would have changed like gaming again as well I think it would have had Mechanical sort of like advancements that would have made us go like, oh my god It has to be like, yeah, we're incorporating smell into the gameplay experience The Seinfeld is unfunny effect. It might well be that the whole thing of people don't think Seinfeld is funny because All the sitcoms that come afterwards copied what Seinfeld did Um It's almost like the same thing that happened with Call of Duty where I already copied that multiplayer thing sort of formula Or I guess even Halo kind of done it. Yeah And also I'm not sure how I feel about the whole thing of like half-life It has the cutscenes are in the gameplay. It's like, I don't know because that trend that that started it's like I think like that's what started the you know the games where it's You'd never have cutscenes like that's it's all in game That stretches right into Resident Evil 8 where you're just like, I don't know that what I'm doing right now matters I don't even know when I have control most of the time. I just sort of go. Oh, oh, yeah, it's me again yeah Like it's seamless. It's like, I don't know if I call that seamless. It just it feels weird control-wise They're Romanian. I wanted them to sound like V Oh, like all of the characters in Resident Evil 8 Hey senbara, what are you doing? I dig it. I think have that and Kano. I think we're well on the way to making a great game Kano and Heisenberg it's a co-op game. They're both traveling around One of the bosses is on your blade Just we're just gonna do Mortal Kombat instead. Don't we just just transfer it all over Mortal Kombat and V Resident Evil and Metal Gear complete nut a nonsense, but Metal Gear compensates with interesting gameplay and an ocean of secrets also loads of memes That's the thing it I don't think I would have minded as much if If we had great gameplay I think I would just have the same take as most of Resident Evil stuff where I'm just like, yeah, the story's retarded, but You know, we could talk about all the mechanics But the mechanics were kind of thin I feel like most mainstream games are getting thinner and thinner Unfortunately, but my god, do they look good? Yeah, they look they look great Um To be fair that looks like an expensive crib. They could have had it in storage until Rose got brought into the castle Again though, if they were as as rag said if they if the plan is to turn her into four pieces of a baby What's the crib for? Maybe it's prepared for when they have the the actual daughter the one that she wants back That was interesting She was like, I'm going to do a ritual to bring my baby back With the rose baby and then it just doesn't work and it also takes her powers. Remember that That's just it just happens. It's like, okay I mean, I wouldn't expect much of anything in terms of discussion there. That's just Resident Evil being like, this is what happens Okay, that's why I have 46 booze. It's got to be close to enough, right? Yes Uh Going outside of windows to get in is in F and talk off. I think is what they're trying to say Uh, the what now going outside of windows to get in is in talk off Going outside of windows to get in. Yeah, like like if you have to go out of one window to grow along a balcony Yeah, we have to go along a ledge so that you can get in a different window I think it's in a lot of stuff. It's in stuff. There's no reason it wouldn't be in stuff as old as like 90s games Yeah, it happens a lot in Dishonored where you have to go around the outsides buildings and go from one like we were opening to another I referenced amnesia that you do it in that. It's like, yeah, those those games are very capable of it And it's very reasonable to assume That you can do it You can break all the other windows and you'd think you can climb through if there's a hole then it's just like, nope and you're like, okay Rags, why must you turn efap into our house of lies? I tell only the truth and the truth her Here's the truth. Am I the only one who thought of billy bob Thornton whenever heisenberg spoke? Yeah, I didn't think of billy bob Thornton No Why would you even put furniture enemies can't deal with into your game jack baker and re7 can smash the table if you annoy him around it Yeah, and that's really cool And um, I think it was shown in like demos to surprise people and make the game seem like it's um Like everything's interactable or everything is at risk of being destroyed by enemies and stuff It's like, oh, that'll be amazing, but I'm pretty sure that's one of the few times that even happens I just saw that there's a apparently zax not a sad if he made the MCU it would have made less money at all being less beloved I want to see what the context is Like if it's like, oh, you know, if mine's not crowd pleasing. It's a little bit more cerebral I was about to say I'm sure that he would say something like it would be more realistic. It would be more down to earth Um, oh, so he said Uh, I could have changed it so I would have maybe made less money or being less beloved for for what they've created I don't know that there's a better way to do it. Hmm. All right. Oh, yeah, that's it I mean not even I would be that nice to the MCU Yeah, no, that's fine. But I suppose that's his way of saying nothing at all It's like they've done the best at doing what they they were doing, you know, like, oh, no Here's a question that he had. It seems like there was a big q&a. I just saw it on twitter Um, the link to this guardian article where there was I think it included that one So somebody asked him I think your dc films affect people in positions of power when they are on their day off and enjoying the movie Which can make life better for the west of us west of us for the rest of us If you ever slip in ethical scenes deliberately to try and shape a better world Super hero he says superheroes are heroes. They're gonna rescue a cat From a tree to walk an old lady across the road. But the interesting thing is the shades Chris terry on I talked a lot about how we super imposed batman and soup man on society We tried not to be judgmental in our morality because that's dangerous When you strike a position and don't have another perspective on the same event It can be a slippery slope When you're doing something in which you can find lessons and hide lessons It's fundamentally important to be careful not to just have one point of view Because people go into a movie like justice league on the side of justice league You tend to feel they're right. They're not called the fascist league. What a fucking weird answer to that question It doesn't even feel like an address the question which is yeah, like You put ethics in the movie Yeah Oh my oh and we know about his his epics and his movies are Dude, here's a question throughout your movies, especially the ones from the dc universe You include a lot of visual cues and references to christianity. Is this intentional? Yeah, I think the philosophical christian identity of the west lids a lot through those dc characters Superman personifies a lot of the same qualities we see in the mythological story of christ in his death and rebirth Sometimes it's easy to evoke those things through imagery. What it's like the only reason you do it Yeah, if you yeah I don't understand why that would be his answer the question You know it evokes christ when you put a cross in a scene. You're like, yeah a lot of the time. Yeah What an absurd person Yeah, the superman is like jesus. What the what is that? Well, they both came back from dying, so Yeah, but in the movie that you were it's funny to me. It's like I was like, do you think jesus invented coming back from the dead? It's like that's been around for all kinds of things There's like nothing original about christian Oh, no, so here's a question that he got asked A lot of people see a right-wing political undercurrent in some of your films Where do you stand politically and has that changed over the years to which he answered? I vote democrat I'm a true lover of individual rights. I've always been a super strong advocate of women's rights and women's rights to choose It's like why why did you why did you say that? Why oh Yeah, if you told me that you were really really big on individual rights, I'm not thinking. Oh, he votes democrat then Well, I guess I'm confused by the things that he why didn't he just say, oh, I'm I I don't know I'm just like a liberal like yes or something. Why didn't he like say, you know the issues that particularly like I'm a strong advocate of women's rights. It's like what the what? Yeah, it's like I vote democrat I'm a strong advocate of women's rights Is like oh implying that republicans like hate women or I think he's a bad speaker Because like maybe yeah remember the whole thing with a fan of men is too or it's just like he's I don't think he realizes when you put two statements right next to each other people will infer that they are connected So I never like knowing that that he's bad at that. I wonder if like you're not supposed to read it too much I don't know. Yeah, maybe it's it's it's just weird. He says weird things. That's all Do indeed And because yeah, he said I don't have a right wing political agenda People see what they want to see for me. That was not that was certainly not the point. That was not certainly the point Oh, that's the other way around now, whatever you're speaking. That's okay. You can say things wrong Wrong sentences, but that's enough of that attention Good ol snider Angry Joe trashed re8 through his review, but then gave it a seven out of ten pretty cringe I don't know that angry Joe I don't know if he's ever talked about his zero to ten sort of system And how he ranks it beyond just what his experience was overall We went from a zack snider to We're an angry joe. I think he likes those movies a lot Um, didn't he rate suicide squad really high? He liked kind of steely didn't like bvs, right? Yes, that's right. He didn't like bvs Um, he didn't like suicide. Well, that was david ayer. So I guess that's different What do you think did you like the snider cut? I can't remember Uh, I think good didn't he? Um, let's see gave suicide squad an eight out of ten Yeah, that's uh, oh that's did he end up regretting that what I think I think he did because it just makes him look bad Well, he makes him look insane, but he went on to fucking he like defended the predator Hard core, which was a huge mistake So film is awful But he does these things under the context sometime. Oh dark fate. I'm pretty sure he defended too. I I don't want to be making shit up, but I'm pretty sure Zack's not as just as leaking eight out of ten Okay I don't know man, like it's I don't know I don't know that I should expect any different fucking everybody eight ups Here what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do help me to I'm gonna let me see what what did he give army of the dead That was his recent video. I just want to see what his rating is for it if I can Scroll and see a number on the timeline Um Who is this guy? He's the whitest Hispanic dude I've ever seen in my life here So this is the this is we got we got he's on one side and you know two on the other side in this This dude in the middle is like what a what an interesting looking fellow That's alex, I think Because I haven't watched nigger joe in ages. So there's joe and then other joe was the one on the from the left Yeah, I remember. I know other joe. Yeah. Yeah Well alex has been around for a while a few years at least Yeah, I haven't watched them in Okay, I would love to see like a rating out of ten uh Oh, oh, here's the angry movie review. Okay. Here it is. He gives it a Normally it pops up like as a you scroll through on the timeline and then you'll find you see the number. Yeah huh I have an interesting thing To tell you about freaky, but you're gonna have to know off stream because it's technically a spoiler for the debate It's interesting. All right. Okay. Yeah remind me Well, I might forget, but hopefully one of us remembers Trail of the arm for edgar rights new movie comes out like in a couple of days. I'm really hoping that's awesome Yeah, so do I because baby driver was uh a little bit there Don't say that people's people still love that movie Yeah, the cool action scenes the chases were awesome the music soundtrack was a really cool way out Yeah How it was used Uh, don't know if you lads care, but bad batch is better than the mandalorian in its first four episodes The fourth episode was a stinker though Um, okay I don't know being better than mandalorian is like all right good for you. Yeah, you did it Hey rags if two negatives equal a positive then is a baby jewer person Hmm It's an insightful question Not one that i'm prepared to answer For fear of many things, but i'll think about it It ended with dawn bless Oh you too you too Wait if ethan is all mold how did A lu umbrella not detect him being mold also that mia was part of a bio terrorist organization and nobody cares true That is uh, how his story began. That's why she was there Nobody remembers that though. I don't think at this point Not to mention. Yeah, there's no way They wouldn't attested ethan at the end of the events of resident evil seven they would have found out he's a mold person But whatever it's fine. Don't worry about it I'm behind so i don't know if this is already addressed But why is ethan never worried about turning into a lichen after watching the old man? It's it's shit That's why that's a really good question and to be honest with you. I remember when I first got bitten That the thought crossed my mind And I was just like they're not gonna do it So there's no point in even thinking about it But then it's funny because I probably should have brought it back up when the old man starts going nuts It's like wait, shouldn't we be going nuts? We've been bitten But no, we're mold mold cancels out lycanthropy. Okay Yeah It all makes sense Uh lady d more like lady D's nuts on and then censored damn I don't even know what they were just said chicago fucking typewriter and gangsta leon equals replay Oh, yes This just says kunk Ah kunk yes You should watch the great Debate of man of steel between angry joe and nostalgic critic I don't I feel like I die. I don't know what they're gonna say. That's I feel like what will get the one of the things that's gonna come up that I've always hated it'll be like It's so boring and then you'll be like it's not boring. It's so interesting because of the action You know just like arguments like that and I'll just be like Yeah I'm sure there's some good ones in there. I don't know. Um, when you say you should watch it Are you saying because it's really good or because it's really bad but funny? What are you up to? Mola miss banana on stage nine. I feel betrayed I'm sorry If it's if it's worth anything that game just ended up breaking so you know Uh, usually I don't play games like this because I'm a pussy boy But I decided to start soma because you guys I'm at theta now and I'm enjoying it a lot so far just Yeah, just just let it happen to you soma is a Is an experience I guess I'm off to be was it I once killed a big daddy in Hephaestus by making a pile of every single exploding barrel tank on that level Took me 2.5 hours did it because I could Okay That sounds interesting and you know what I like that you can do it I like the bioshock has the it can let you do something like that There's nothing that would stop you from doing that in a reasonable way and then it doesn't actually stop you I have a feeling that people only like this game is because of the tall lady, but I'm not a resident evil expert I think it's more than just the tall lady, but she definitely helped She would have helped get a lot of random people who might not even have touched the game at all to Give it a shot just to be like in on the nose. Like what is this tall lady thing? I don't know Uh, don't tell me what to call my clippazine or my mag mag lip No, it has to be corrected Contranims are words that are their own opposites. Is there an example of that? Do you guys know what a contra nim is? Let me let me look it up a contra nim A word with two opposite meanings Like sanction which can mean both a penalty for disobeying a law and official permission or approval for an action um What so What I was gonna say with that one that would change on the context of the sentence, I suppose Um, I thought they meant something like literally and I was like, no Let's see. I have to uh Uh Angry joe defends the maybe scene a lot of people defend that scene. I I think it's okay Let me take let me click this daily re is 75 contra nims So what would like what would an example be because I think I still don't quite get um Apology a statement of contrition for an action or a defensive one. Oh, yeah like apologetics. Yeah, okay um Ville a payment or an invoice for payment Bolt to secure or to flee Oh, let me see how these work. Yeah, okay. Okay. Um fine excellent or acceptable and good enough Uh, oh, this is a good one. This is finished completed or ended and destroyed I see Like my work is finished or my work is finished And it's like one's been destroyed and one's been, you know, just completed. Yeah. Oh, that's yeah, that's very interesting huh um No, here's our boy quantum significantly large or a minuscule part wonderful uh Joe in the nostalgic video are unironically says he said maybe let them die as an argument and said it's John Kent Not knowing the answer making it nuanced. Oh my god making it Make it's nuanced because he says well, maybe it's fine to drown the bus full of children. That's all good That's nuanced guys. Oh god There are so many ways to write that scene better like every single time someone tries to recontextualize exactly what that Seen is about the dialogue wouldn't be the way that it was if it were that thing Problem is at the fact that Jonathan Kent believes that What repercussions could come from his son giving up his identity is worth the deaths of all the children. That's the problem um Before release I was holding on to hope Well, I hope that lady D was so tall because she was a perf perfected tyrant Turns out she was just a tall body of a disappointment Uh, I mean, yeah, I mean, I'd be lying if I said she wasn't kind of a disappointment because there's nothing to her And I guess it was our mistake to have expected more There's resident evil I demand 12 seconds of attention high all but rags yeah high In dying light you can unlock an ability to counter a zombie That is trying to grab you. It's essentially a qte, but you only Have to do a time at once I was doing this thing that was an alternative to what we got in re8, which was just having to wait Um, yeah, it's just I don't appreciate anything Yeah, at least if I'm like pounced on and I have to mash a button the faster I mash it Uh, the the less damage I take at least I feel like that's an interactive aspect and They sort of it tries to be a Like it tries to mirror the frantic, you know Your physical exertion of trying to push something off of you because it's not really about finesse in that moment It's just about Get it off get off get off and so you're like mashing the button But uh better And yeah, and if it gives you like a reduces of old damage Reduces the damage of the attack by 50% if you tap enough of w and s or whatever A and d It's not going to require a huge amount of it would feel a hell of a lot better for me Especially ending the cutscene faster Oh Please So much better when you're chriss and you can like punch them off in half the time it takes for them to finish the animation That is a superior world um I demand 11 seconds of attention because i'm better than the guy above But he wanted 12. Why would you want less if you're better? What's happening? Alrighty Fuck mary kill resin evil 8 last of us two and rebirth so last of us two amnesia rebirth and re eight um I'm gonna marry re eight of those three I'm not sure which one i want to kill the last of us Yeah, so I think I want to kill the last of us two Because that's just shit um And the others are shit, but I feel like last of us two ruins a lot of stuff and the fox around with characters And the morality is fucked up in that and the message is weird and the themes don't make sense And the ending is horrible And nobody liked it But well, I love people did some people did wrong people liked it um But who would I fucking marry between rebirth and resin evil? I'm marrying re eight. That's not even hard I don't think i'm marrying re eight. Yeah. I'm marrying re eight. I'm fucking rebirth Because I bet tazzy's probably she's a lovely lady and pregnant chicks are hot. I'd fuck the shit out of tazzy And she could just say inane annoying things while I do it you can always put a gag She can't say the annoying dialogue. Oh my god. Her and Ethan would be perfect for each other Hollywood Oh, you saved mario. I did indeed you get that really emotional moment that makes the whole game all the struggle worth it Blocking doesn't stop the flies because you wouldn't block an aoe. You don't Tell me That blocking wouldn't work because they're flies in an re game Okay don't Um, but if an axe is coming at you, it's better when it hits your hand rather than your head No, again, you'd run away from all this in it. We're not doing that again What's intuitive what would work? It's like re eight doesn't pay attention to these things And yes, if I have the chance to run away from flies or an axe, I will do it with both Also, I would totally put my hands on my face if I was covered in flies I don't know why that's something that you think wouldn't happen um I'm talking about a situation where you're definitely gonna get hurt and axe can block a fire You can't No, you're wrong if you if you have fire in front of you and you can't move you would put your arms in front of your face Everyone would that's like instinctual Yep Wrong The acid is dumb. It's all dumb all of it's dumb. The whole game is dumb I'm not just like it's just just give it up. It's okay Uh, what is the worst bullet sponge enemy you can think of in a game also high regs I have an answer for this. Hi there Uh, one of the worst bullet sponge is the one that we came across in resident evil 5 Do you remember rags that boss that wouldn't fucking die? It just went on and on and on and on Yeah, even the first time we've I played that with a friend. We were like, I want to just fucking I Resident evil it makes this in all the time where If I was going to make it a resident evil game. Fuck me. I would avoid bullet spongy enemies Um, you would actually have to use some level of skill or maneuverability or cleverness to kill not just shoot it a lot Um, there was a bunch when I played the division. Some of those enemies are really spongy Which is weird because they're just people so it makes it really tough for your brain to accept it Resident evil village has a bunch of bullet spongy enemies I remember some of the bosses in destiny being particularly egregious Most bullet sponges Like in those strike missions god some of those bosses Takes like 20 minutes of unloading clips over and over and over again. It's just doing nothing Some of the bosses in Risk of rain too can get really spongy if you know about them beforehand you could prepare and do stuff but If you don't you if you kind of don't know it yet If you don't prepare correctly if you don't get the items you need Some of those but some of those enemies can be very spongy Um Do you feel are too spongy in any of the dark souls games? Do you think they're uh Medea is one of the ones I think that might be the case with prom is I'm playing dark souls 3 Haven't played it in a while so Um But funnily enough when it comes to dark souls at this point some of them are a little bit The opposite problem is happening Like I wish they had a bit more health like it lost a bit longer Some of that's like honestly the problem with some of the more well-designed bosses and some of them where Like ah, this is really satisfying to um Sort of fight these creatures, but they die so quickly that I'm just like well, it's over Which is funny, it's it's almost like I'm Generating a super hot take of like no dark souls didn't need an easy mode. It needs a it's a hardcore mode Crank it up even more I think the bosses in um some of the bosses in Killing floor 2 are really spongy and they stand out. I I've never liked the boss fights in Killing floor 2 I don't think that game just works well with bosses Um, I think in terms of the movement and mechanics and the stuff that you do in the game It just doesn't know itself well to singular extremely difficult enemies Who can essentially if they just decide you're dead then you're dead and that's that uh I think you can tell from all the different attempts they've had with all the different types of bosses They're just trying to find a way to make it work. I don't think they're quite clear on What needs to happen? They just seem to be variations of the big bullet sponges and they fire weapons But they move in a way that allows you to escape them and it's just like that's about it It's they kind of well they You feel like you escape them only because they will swap to a different target Sometimes and if they don't you're just dead Uh, when um What's his name the the evil german doctor guy volter hans volter He was the first boss When he chases after you and hits you with his sword thingies, you're just dead You can't outrun him and it does an insane amount of damage And so if he doesn't just cycle his targets between all of you and spread out the damage, you're just dead um the Uh The patriarch His minigun will just like You you have to know ahead of time if the patriarch is the boss We have to stick around cover because if he catches you out in the open You're just dead the the rocket launchers can one hit kill you The minigun will just an it'll just annihilate your health And if you're not around to cover when he decides to target you you're you're just dead Um the matriarch, I don't like that. I just don't like any of them That's just not a game that really owes itself well It's supposed to be interesting to see like if you were able to craft one. Maybe what you would try If you could make it work Yeah, you'd have to take Yeah, you'd have to think about what you want to do Um, especially think about all the strengths of the game aren't how it translates to uh An enemy that doesn't die as quickly as the rest Yeah, and I already feel like flesh pounds are pushing the boundary in terms of how much health a singular enemy should have Um, just because they they do get a bit spongy And you do have to have classes that are sort of dedicated to killing the big guys Which works when you're playing with people and you know, you're actually in that actually works But the game seems to be at its best when you're killing hordes and hordes of weakish to moderately effective Um So that's what the parry mechanics for no, no, no that that shit won't save you that shit won't save you um Also, whether or not you can survive it isn't necessarily the whole point anyway Yeah, it's like there's like there's nothing you can do like sometimes when a boss will target you in this game You're just dead because he wants to kill you and that's what's gonna happen because you don't have that much at your disposal To really prevent damage um And there needs to be I think there needs to be better ways of Maybe it would be a lot I'd be a lot more keen on it if the rules for the aggro system were more clear And how you could actually use that If that was more functional, uh, or if it was more, I don't know intuitive But it's it's me um Do you think since hollywood has wanted to get uh woke in one direction that they'll have shrunk the talent pool So much in both writing and enacting Um, well not really because I'm pretty sure like throughout all of like time that the majority of people in creative industries are like left leaning I'm not sure that it's changed. Maybe the ratio has changed But like I'm pretty sure that if you just went through like all the time The majority of people in creative industries were more Left leaning than average So not really hollywood. Maybe a little bit Maybe yes. Yeah, definitely in hollywood. Maybe it's different in other countries, but you certainly get that impression, right? Like And there's still artists or there's plenty of talent like really talented writers that are hyper lefties. So Yeah, of course because of course talent isn't based on your political I get I get the idea right that there would be some people who feel are alienated from the wrong Um, no, I you know what nah, I don't I don't buy that But in any case I do imagine that there would be some people who are Feel like they they don't have a place right that they can I would certainly like it's bad It's bad. Yeah, absolutely. The writers out there that aren't uh, you know, like say for example, you just have a board of people and they all agree on a particular Like who would vote for president or whatever else and then is that one guy who just doesn't say anything And they're like, why aren't you saying anything? It's like uh I'm sure that's happened. Yeah, surely Surely it would be better if uh, everybody felt that they could speak freely and um and You know, not feel like they're gonna get fucked over they do um That would be better just in general Luigi colonized south africa Luigi Rank from best to worst bio wave. We're sorry Bethesda and bungee post halo Wait, sorry. What were the the companies bio where Bethesda bungee post halo best to worst I would say Bethesda's probably the best Well, are we talking just the guy? I guess we're talking Bethesda Their first party stuff. Yeah, so what wouldn't I guess not including the stuff they published so like dishonored and stuff doesn't count Okay, like Bethesda softworks the guys who make fallout and elder scrolls um, I still feel like elder scrolls and fallout Are better than like I'd way rather play those than the stuff bio where makes and destiny. Yeah Yeah, um, so I probably put Bethesda up top then And then what bioware and blizzard is next No, it was bioware and bungee. Oh, uh, probably probably put bungee above bioware I probably would Um, I think I'd rather play destiny than a lot of what bioware's been doing lately Yeah, I think I'd rather play destiny But again, it's not it is a very begrudging I'd rather Yeah, I'd rather play I'd rather go play other things. I'd rather not play anything If those are my choices sit in a room You know, yeah, let's do Let's yeah, so Bethesda bungee then bioware um Free is wrong hollywood. Yeah, but they didn't always used to be this way wasn't there a thing in like the 50s where There were like a lot of people who were just like outright communists in uh in hollywood There was a lot of sympathizers in hollywood. Yeah, but oh, but but they they struggled to get work, right at that time Like that was I think a lot of it was they we didn't learn about it till later or they There's a big subversion aspect where they this little pieces here and there but nothing Big I guess that's what I'm kind of caught on in the culture I guess that's what I'm getting at right is that that was probably like a that that's probably just been a thing consistently because it's just um It's like the it seems like art tends to tends to be like the alternative, right? And so like what we've got right now is really weird because like what we're seeing is like the mainstream part So the alternative is I'm not sure and also it's kind of harder for there to be an alternative on the internet sure But in like the industry um How are you gonna get financing? It's a lot harder to make a movie Um within the the industry now, then it probably was back then just budgets. Um all that stuff But man, at least you are at least you you are you you saved mario. How I did Luigi Good job luigi. Luigi. I mean, I just think he's a better dude than mario. You know, he's he's over I think luigi's great at mario. Yeah He is a um he is he is a really cool dude um Read the rest of the post I said during world war two and career. Oh, yeah, sure like the Yeah, there was definitely um like a lot of media that was that was part of the the war effort But why would that what what does that prove? was it would I might have believed that like left-wingers in the 1940s were super pro like Nazi Germany If it's about work being political it's like yeah, it's been that way for a long time That was what you meant Latius tau achieve for great space communism Um nice communism is just funny to me I'm Mubalicious you ever heard of an indie top-down horror game named darkwood I think you would like it the story and atmosphere are top-notch. I am I played it for I need to finish that Yeah, I played it for like the first 90 minutes and I I really liked it and then I just one of those games I never Went back to go play but I do need to go and finish that again because I I liked it Luigi has a longer jump in Mario 3. It's like yeah, because he's better I think he jumps higher in the melee game the smash games as well He's faster. I think he's a little bit faster Though I'm pretty sure in melee, uh, they didn't actually get the the the like luigi voice over lines It's just mario, but higher pitch So we don't know We need if have the jazz musical rags on piano fringy on sax and mollus smooth jazz voice I don't know which of the ifs play instruments Can't believe they're saying that just because he's black. It's really it's really kind of Well, no only reason one I play saxophone. No, no, it's it's we know. No, we know. We know it's just It's it's fine All right, saxophone. No, it's never in doubt. Yeah, it was never in doubt Such a big fan of saxophone is like an instrument. I think it's such a great versatile instrument big fan Saxophone is neat And specifically alto not just because that was the one I played It's just most versatile of them all You get to play all the melodies if you're on alto All right, piano is pretty badass as well though piano is a really great Super cool instrument I'm a half hour behind but holy fuck the re8 stands are so cringe with all of their feeble attempts to defend this game It's okay They know not what they do They just wanted to like the game. We got um We got we there's like arguments in the current upload on moola people were like Fuck you r8's awesome. You guys hate everything and then people like no, fuck you your arguments in favor They gave a shit I always love that you hate everything. I don't I don't get it Well, yeah come friday That would be an interesting Well, it'll be interesting considering that there is you know, I do there is a movie that we talked about that I still like Oh, yeah, I that's saturday. I met someone else by friday Oh Reminds me of the dude trying to justify ivory harvesting to defeat rhinos in black pants Hey, that was j That was j They used the that was fucking I isn't that what happened? It was like they might use their horns, even though they're not like pure ivory or whatever, but it was just like, oh god, that's terrible I thought what condo was meant to be civilized. That's pretty primitive Might use it for their meat and their milk Oh jesus eating rhinos instead of domesticating another more abundant animal It's just funny rhino milk brotherhood Of the wolf slash efat movies Uh, brotherhood of the wolves that I'm assuming that's a movie It's about the beast of gevedan Or gevoden, I don't know Yeah, I have never heard of it But maybe maybe I want heisenberg to narrate my human intercourse with lady d Yeah, that's fair I'm sure I give you a lot of encouragement Like you can do it that sort of thing To play as devil's advocate, isn't it possible that one would make prototype weapons to counter your own? Oh wait, I think we read this one out. It was about heisenberg's uh tank There's a lot of reasons that fell apart What man, I don't know. I don't know about developing products I oh, I don't know just think remember what the thing is that could kill you don't build it Leave it around nearby. Yeah, we we went over we made a couple comparisons I think it was something like it was like superman builds or builds collects and You know Makes it and then provides it which was funny because someone was like he does do that with batman in some stories The fucking heisenberg's not superman But anyway I was surprised how short the game was for the price slash how little time was given to these characters I get the doll girl isn't as interesting, but what the fuck? um uh It's funny I guess because I think I said that at one point that when I realized I was like halfway through the game and I hadn't even Heard another line of dialogue from heisenberg yet and I was like Jesus What's going on and then it just comes to the realization. We're like, you're not gonna be getting characters. I'm sorry They'll get some plot That's you know, everyone likes plot Yeah, the rest of the evil plot This comic is gonna look so goofy like I'm I'm working on the the next page I'm coloring it and like the uh, the the entire style of shading has changed because I didn't like the original one So It's gonna be super inconsistent when it's done. We'll be eventually You'll have to double check this But I think they use to run Alternating current through a wire around ships to prevent sea mines from being magnetically attracted to it That could be an easy fix Yeah, uh, I'm sure chase is a nice guy, but uh That's the super chat just that Rags play holo night and then tell me you don't like metroid vaniers I'm sure there are some that I've like there's probably some that I've played that I do like I just in general don't like them Like I like betroid zero mission But in general I don't like metroid. Yeah and echoes but in general like I just don't really like I don't like games because they are that way. I feel they can be that thing and I can like them Yeah, I don't like the backtracking element right that was Yeah, it's just not something I really enjoy or yeah, I mean I get that something that just doesn't appeal to me Because if you don't like that then yeah, you know Well, like I'm pretty neutral and there's many different like it It was like I was talking about in residency before you go to the village three times But the first two times are kind of similar. The third one is totally different. So it doesn't even feel like the same place There are ways to make it work that are a okay and like the light world and dark world aspect of Metroid prime echoes was kind of nifty and You know, I was gonna say like there are people who will I think it's reasonable to not like a genre As a whole for the most part if someone was like, I don't like rail shooters. For example, I'd be like I could probably see why um Or if they said they didn't like point and click uh games as a whole Um I just saw somebody chat say chase is the superior reef app instead of my wife's a doc there would be I have a girlfriend We watch our we watch anime together wet bread That was a that was a good moment. I enjoyed it. Yeah, that was fucking hilarious Hi rags Hi can't wait for fringoo to hit the market Yeah, fringoo I don't know if that's the name I would settle on if I was to mass produce it But that's not really on the cards at the moment We're still in the research and development phase at fringies. I actually there is no company name for my This this particular goo enterprise Is your laboratory bigger or smaller than luigi's mansion? Um, the problem is I don't have a good sense of scale for luigi's mansion So it's what three four four stories tall placement, I guess too. Yeah I mean, that's a big I don't really have the resources to um I'm not I'm not quite there yet One day maybe Yeah, you know one day One day I'll be able to pay for a whole island to do my research and development in I like how that's just the whole mark of a rich person. I own an island. I own sizeable portion of the earth Um, I own more that I think people think is reasonable Like this whole thing is mine. Yeah, doesn't uh, doesn't mark zuckerberg on a private island probably Richard Branson does for sure and uh, I think the guy who is in charge of Oracle, I think he has a private No, I think he I think he actually wanted to buy like one of the islands of hawaii Not like a small one either, you know a pretty sizable one I can picture that when you get to a particular rich low, you're just like, I should have an island That's just something I should have, you know Well, Warren Buffett Warren Buffett's always the example of like the reasonably humble billionaire because he still lives in like Omaha In Nebraska where he was born and like grew up if he buys America And canada and max he could have his own island then He's got a nice house though. The whole thing's considered because even though it was like, oh, you know, it's the same house It's 1956. It's like that was a good house in 1956 You've got Um, I'm pretty sure he's gonna donate like 95 of his money to charity when he dies. So that's that's uh, that's pretty chad Yeah, the rest he's gonna have stuffed into his coffin. Well, I guess Yeah, like his kids think that they're gonna get some of that and it's just Or and it's like the rest of it gets put in a pile and burned in front of them Um, is he humble or just super? Can you do that though? Isn't that um, uh, I think just oh destroying money is illegal, isn't it? Yeah Because well makes sense, right because the government wants to regulate the flow of the money I'm curious I think I know the answer question, but I'll ask it anyway Let's say he's like super into that and he manages to get all of his money liquidated and put into cash And then he's gonna kill himself But not before burning all of it and then and then he does it I guess there's nothing they could do about that, right? Like would they try and recreate that lost? Money they try and figure out how much was burnt. I guess Maybe that would be there all of that protocol. Yeah, I'm not sure what they're um, I guess. I don't know Yeah, I don't I don't know if it'd be worth it like the amount of money that you like it's it's more of a general sentiment thing And you you generally don't have to tell people don't destroy money Yeah, it's not that's like the last thing that comes into one's mind when they think about money But yeah, I often it's as I would imagine it's not that big of an issue Getting people destroying lots and lots of money. They'd rather have it And also even with as much money as he has It's not much compared to the amount of money that like exists in uh in the united states. I would imagine um I don't know actually, yeah About the arm blocking thing moeller. I was referring to how you want to block out the flies and compared that to fire I guess I worded it poorly It doesn't really like Just doesn't matter because the way resenival works blocking could block fly damage blocking could block you from falling 10,000 miles to the ground Yeah, the block system is fucking stupid in that game Uh, they tried to make it more interesting by saying she taught oswald e-spenser so essentially she started the whole re series It's so dumb and makes both characters worse not enough money to explain Yeah, I I understand nobody likes that nobody likes it when they're just like Why do people like to straw man rags? Excellent question They hate they hated the doggo because he spoke the truth I remember having like a two hour argument with my buddies that resenival four was still a tank control game And he just did not understand I mean, well, it shouldn't take two hours. You can't strafe. Just figure out. Yeah Obviously the problem is just ask them how they define a tank control And then figure out what yours is and then see what we're missing components on that game, right? No Yes, you cannot say the resident evil four. Yes. That's where I I'm not certain but I'm almost I'm almost certain that that's where the name comes from I mean that makes sense. I can't straight. Thank. Yeah. It has to turn the direction like it. Yeah Yeah, that makes Okay, I'm not even sure why that would even be a controversial uh topic if you've clarified what um what tank controls mean If you can agree on what tank controls are then it is that Morely, you forgot that Shinji Mikami director Uh, let's see uh Shinji Mikami director of the first resident evil in 1996 chose to use fixed camera perspectives and tank controls To make the game scarier He explained that in this way the player could not see a zombie coming You could still hear its footsteps without knowledge of its position Makes sense to me James you're scaring me. Is it more you forgot that thing? You're late. Like what are you talking about? What did I what have I done? What's happening? You just keep going. Why do you why does the cutscene keep playing? Oh, because I'm I finished the game and I'll play it again. Uh, we're near the end of the 138 super chat and then I'm probably gonna stop there. I see James, what did I forget? What are you talking about? I'm scared Like whenever someone tells you that I'm like, oh god, did I agree to a stream? What's happening? Um English is not a romance language Who said it was I don't know. I don't remember. I don't know. I don't think any of us would have said that Germanic I'm just joking. I assume. Do you randomly remember something you really forgot dammy james? Yeah, I think English is considered a Germanic language. It is Germanic. Yeah, the romance ones are like I think french counts as romantic, but definitely italian and the romantic The romantic ones are uh, french, italian Oh, french wait wait wait hold on. Sorry. That's right Uh, romance is is uh Catalan french, italian, portuguese, ositan reito romantic, romanian and spanish. Yeah, those are romance, but you said germanic No, I said french was romantic. English is germanic Chat please clarify because I thought You were naming them and you said english was on the the list No, english is germanic Yeah, I know that but I thought you Hold on I don't remember. I don't I wasn't following I can't remember exactly what was said, but you know what the the stream will go up and we'll see English has a lot in common with french though. Oh, well, these these countries are right next to each other Yeah, well one of the one of the reasons that might confuse people is because we get a huge amount of our words from latin Yes, but we're not a romance language and I don't I don't really know what constitutes the difference between romantic and germanic Fringy implied english was romantic, which I never did rags just said french was germanic six seconds ago I have a no i'm reading it off a list. I have I googled it. I'm looking at the I'm looking at info, please Catalan, french, italian, portuguese, asceton, raito, romanic, romanian, and spanish Northern france right like an old northern france language right or am I mix enough or something it's it's the official language of catalonia Oh, oh, that's uh, that's south of spain, right? Where let's see, um Also known as lengadoque By its native speakers as a romance language spoken in southern france monaco, italy's asceton valleys as well as spain's valde iran Right, uh collectively these regions are sometimes referred to as ascetania Rags teach latin love the factoids Oh, god, you like some of them I now remember which part of the term it was. Yeah Most people don't know that all languages stem from welsh, actually Ah the mother language the mother tongue Welsh the mother tongue. I'm sorry welsh. Fucking idiot. What are jay's new pronouns jay and gem? Um, I think jay is currently on all right now actually I think sorry on twitter Not that that's all I wouldn't pretend to know what all pronouns even means Uh jay made a great decision in hiring fringy on full time jay must be too far too busy managing efab and running his own More successful channel to join of course Um, you should check out jay's dr. Who video if you haven't already people listening Uh, yeah, it is a very good video It's a longing But uh, it's quite good Kind of sad that the fps pt that never was made seems infinitely More scary such interesting than the whole of the last two re games completely agreed I think what we saw in pt was a taste and then the whole game would have had like all kinds of ideas That's what I would hope it would have been Both re seven and eight feel like they just sort of were like Played the demo too. Yeah. Yeah, like how do we yeah, we know how popular and beloved this was and how spooky it was How do we try and You know, how do we do that? Oh, we can't really do it, but we could fool people for a bit What do you all think of vldl elevated torn clothes? I have no idea what that is uh vldl vldl Very low density lipo protein uh It's vldl. What? Well, so is it what do you think of vldl and then says elevated torn cloth cloths afterward? It doesn't help much. I'm still totally lost the vldl. Oh wait, it's showing um I have no idea what that is Hmm All right Yeah, if someone in chat knows what that is let us know because I have there's not even anything on google for that The ldl elevated torn clothes Uh resident evil efep movies when they're all recorded. They were recorded probably like a fucking year ago now I don't even remember um time moves so fast We had loads of fun with them and I look forward to them being all done The hope Was to have them done this october Can't guarantee that But um if we can get that done, I will have it be that they release across october and it'll be real real good Because they're very scary movies. They're very scary. Oh, yes Don't watch don't watch them alone get a friend and watch efep with a friend Maybe even alcohol or whatever your preferred libation. Maybe spooky spirits pumpkin wine pumpkin Uh, almost 11 hours make it to 12 hours for long man. Oh, no, we we we stopped at around I think 11 Yeah, yeah, I think you're not even allowed to get to 12. They cap you at 11 45. I think 11 45 Yeah, we uh I don't know why that hasn't been expanded to at least 24 hours You'd think that would be like the this the sort of like yeah for 24 hour live streams and stuff Hmm Let mumph till go to bed. Oh he did And the last super chat from episode 138 was I can see both sides as a quote from tRO I'm not even sure That would have been referencing the time possibly some form of a debate, but yes Now uh Yeah, davey jones lines, but hold your nose this time So I don't even know how much that's gonna change just like you have a debt to pay Guess it works pretty well. I feel like it's not gonna be as intimidated Probably not Uh I want to have you and your be my pronouns for fun You and your I'm just gonna wonder how language works anymore. We're like, what's that mean? How do I do there? Do you know where your is? Oh, I've heard of you And uh on that note, I think we're gonna end there holy shit six hours Time flies and you're having fun fun though. Hopefully we knocked out a few Tomorrow I'll pop out the mini that we did Um that has the other half of 138 stuff Two days two days after As long as I get everything in order that woman Two days after that something's coming out on my channel Day after that debate We'll go up on mula And that that I believe will be happening while we Are possibly recording other things not even 100 sure and then also catch-ups uh in between So, yeah, um That's all updates. I don't know. Is there anything else you guys want to say before we jump away and off No, I think I'm doing okay Yeah Alrighty well Uh, thank you all for hanging out with us and we shall see you around Oh boy, absolutely. I will see yeah, I'll see everybody later To Lou chat all those people