 Hi. Welcome. Welcome to Pyrotec. And please introduce yourself. So I'm Ton Ton Zhu, I'm the CEO and founder of Pyrotec. We are a UK based international global company providing micro LED technologies, platforms for everyone, including big displays and small displays, transparent displays and flexible displays all the way to head up displays and air applications. So we are a global design house for micro LED solutions worldwide. So this is a flexible 27 inch micro LED based technology display using RGB all colors coming from a single material system, Indian Gallium Nitrate. So you can see the color and image quality coming from a unified material system with high quality, high brightness and resolution as well. What's the dot pitch happening here? So this one is a 1.27 millimeter pitch using TFT back plane but RGB pixels coming from a single material system. Here we are looking at a transparent display, 7.5 inch 34 ppi full color using mini LED based on TFT back plane. You can see the transparency as well as the brightness required for outdoor applications. Is this ready for prime time and what's it called like mass production and everything? So these are the reference designs open for everyone to have an evaluation. So these are open for evaluation and testing. So our purpose is to provide the platforms and the supply chain for manufacturing but tailored to customers requirements and system specifications. So now we are coming to another booth that we are on. You got people's choice? Yes, we just won the people's choice award for the best micro LED based technology because we have the roles all in one solution. The LED gives all the brightness and colors. So here we are looking at a full color resolution and solution for the optical projector system based on three panels, based on three panels coming from a single indium gallium neutral material system. So the brightness levels can reach 1 million nits, D65 bright for the outdoor applications but three panels because of the unified material now you can have optical and electrical characteristics all the same. So the power management, power consumption are also unified. Is it possible that your technology would enable my future smartphone to have a really awesome full table touch display? So we are very open in terms of the application areas but we are mostly primarily focusing on AR applications and head up displays that are less than one inch and small wearables as well as a large TV and sandwich application. But of course for all kinds of different user cases and application areas we are very confident micro LED can open up new doors for all kinds of user cases as well. So here we are seeing a wide portfolio of different applications from 0.12 inch monochrome applications with pure red, pure green applications based on indium gallium nitrate with high brightness and efficiency that is guarantee the smartphone factor required for AR glasses applications super duper very tiny and small but still brightness. Brightness in the glass, the weight guide and everything? Yes that's correct. How bright will it get? So we have millions of nits for red and blue and green. And these are also 0.26 reference designs and that we are mass producing launching after this event with single colors blue and green and red also with millions of nits in terms of the brightness but 720p that are going to be enabling wider content providing as well as the feed of view for AR applications. And on the top we are looking at some dynamic pixel tuning full color resolution, all colors coming from a single panel. So without further complication of the processing manufacturing we are utilizing one LED that we are able to provide all the colors. One LED to do all the colors? Yes, yes. But of course these are the reference designs that we are providing as a platform technology and reference design for everyone to improve and build upon based on their specifications. So we are able to provide all the functionality but not on the system level because the system will be tailored to each every single application. But in terms of functionality wise we are almost there. So what's the resolution on this 0.2? So 0.2 inch diagonal we have 720p, 1280 720p so more than 5600 ppi resolution. That's very high pixel density no? Yes. Sorry, I tried to catch it. It's very difficult to video and take any photos here. It's so bright. My sensor is going to survive this? I'm sure it will be okay. Alright. Because how far are you from mass producing all this? So the mass production of 0.26 is happening currently in Taiwan which is our branch. We have an 8 inch production line from material all the way to pixel to CMOS and hyperbonding all the way to wave level optics including the light engine assembly. Everything is happening in Taiwan using standardized process flow and standardized reputable suppliers for the manufacturing. Because we are a design house basically we have the key technologies and key components and designs that we are utilizing the semiconductor production throughput to make the fabrication on 8 inch. So everything is happening in Taiwan on 8 inch. Millions of nits is insane. I was expecting 10,000 would be enough. Somebody's comment. Right, okay. So basically we are actually providing the sufficient brightness for all kinds of application because every process flow that we will be reducing including optics and the light engine assembly that will keep cutting down the nits. That's essentially we're providing the enough sufficient brightness for all kinds of application including outdoor and indoor and that can be adaptive to all kinds of waveguides and especially the diffractive waveguides that's required for the augmented reality. So higher brightness is necessary but you don't necessarily have to have those other pixels lighting up all the time. Ask Porotec if we will see their micro LEDs in music's glasses. I would say it's potentially possible. I wouldn't be able to comment on that but I think we are open and working with everyone in the industry and partners and customers trying to bring those micro-LED on the market as soon as possible. Wondering what company are already using those screens especially VR and AR market? So obviously we are trying as fast as possible to bring those on the market but we are in the very closely working relationship with all our partners and customers trying to build prototypes and development kits and all the way to small volume productions as we speak. So hopefully in another six to nine months there will be some early prototypes and glasses incorporating our products and technology. And you call it GPT? Yes, Dynamic Pixel Tuning. Dynamic. Does that mean that when you talk about millions of nits you can have it as kind of like a peak brightness? Yes. Only sometimes? Yes. For not so long? Well, you don't have to light up all the pixels all the time consuming a lot of power. So there is a lot of flexibility that we are providing for the user or system designer in terms of unifying or utilizing our design and platform technology to be able to have a wider flexibility for the system level optimization. So in terms of you don't necessarily have to have all the functionality but according to the user case and the environment that you are in you will be much better off in terms of adapting our Dynamic Pixel Tuning technology. Is it true? I wasn't here at Display Week last year. I wasn't allowed to travel to the US. Is it true you win the iZone? Yes, we won the best. Now you have a huge booth. That's correct. That means iZone's work. Well, yes. But also we keep our momentum building up gradually and we are growing internationally as well. So we won the best prototype award last year in the iZone in Display Week but this year we just won the People's Choice Award for the best micro LED technology. So that is a motivation for us to keep going much quickly and bring this micro LED as a commercial product. Is it automatic that the winner of the iZone gets a big booth next year? Not necessarily. But we wish to have the best exposure and best working relationship open our doors and open business of working with everyone because obviously we are a small company we have to have the partnership. So how do you do? Yes, very good. Okay, do you understand what we are doing here? Yeah, it sounds pretty revolutionary. In the future, is everybody going to have this technology? Is it going to be just normal? This is the only way to do it. I have a self-help. Yeah. Stacking three layers of RGB is just not going to work. So give up and come join us. All right. Yes, that's right. Thank you, Mike. So did you just say that other people are stacking? Yeah, other people are stacking doing quantum dark color conversion which will introduce complexity and you losing process steps. So we are using the existing technology and production process flow but we are innovating on the material level solving all the problems on the material level but knowing what we are building and problems that are solving but utilizing the manufacturing that is so standard in the silicon world that will guarantee the economics. Where every LED is full color, potentially? Yes. So in other words, you don't need to know which LED is emitting the equivalent before you give it a signal, before you give it a content. So that you have a much better off in terms of the system level and calibration of the display when you are doing the calibration step. So that will consume less power and simplifying the processing flow for the manufacturing. So that is unfortunately the only way forward to make micro LED a commercial product. But you're talking about TV also? Yes. You will make the TV? So for the AR and head up display obviously we are providing the entire system and display panels as well but for the large TVM, large panel displays unfortunately we can't change how the panel makers are doing their process flow but we are able to provide the best chips for them to make their panels and satisfy their customers. So for this case we are providing the red, blue and green chips for them to assemble into a panel using whatever TFT or glass based back planes but we are providing the efficiency benefits and cost benefits. Can you also be the kind of multi-color, full-color backlight for as a mini LED kind of backlight? Yes, we can. For the LCD? Yes, that's exactly what we are trying to solve the problem because for some outdoor signage applications because brightness is the issue power consumption is the issue but also the viewing angle is the issue by unifying all the colors in a single chip that will be simplifying a lot on the optical and the end-level system design so that guarantees the best user experience for whatever application down the road. Because when you talk about the AR, VR stuff and when you talk about TV it's different size Yes and so it must be different factories? Yes, so for the AR applications which require CMOS standard application because we have to use the CMOS back plane so that we are utilizing an 8-inch production line in Taiwan for making large TV and large panels we are working very closely with the panel makers enabling they have their products and commercialization plans very quickly so they have their existing so that's how we work with them by selling the best chips because they have the back plane they have the mass transfer technology but we're providing the best chips. So 10, 12 years ago I had the Coping GoldenEye and there was Google Glass 10 years ago I was so excited but somebody stopped it and then Facebook changed the company to VR the name and there's a rumor that the Apple company is going to launch something so it could be exciting time in the future, right? Yes And you think you will be busy? Yes, definitely so we are a true believer of micro-ality obviously micro-ality can be a display component but we truly believe that every single pixel of those micro-ality can be a display component because they can be individually controlled and emitting brightness and functionality but actually you've got millions of pixels right here on a CMOS chip that can be actually functioning much beyond in terms of functionality beyond the display component How do you compare performance of your transparent compared to transparent OLED? So we are targeting more than 80% transmission using micro-LEDs because micro-lays are semi-connectors that are transparent by nature but we are also working very closely with glass makers and utilizing micro-ICs so that will eliminate a lot of the metal interconnects so that guarantees more than 80% transmission for the future That's more than OLED transparency? Yes, much higher than... Much higher So OLED is currently at 40-50% transparency just because of the metal lines but we can eliminate all of those metal lines simply because micro-LED is much smaller but also transparent And those 20% that you lose Let's say I'm imagining the future Cybertruck Tesla design something and I want to have windows that have a little bit tint when I'm not activating full entertainment or advertising mode and then boom, it can switch into all the windows are entertaining you like writing a VR Yes, that's correct and especially when every single pixel can be dynamically controlled so you can have the information and content whichever and wherever you want on the panel You don't necessarily have to because obviously you still have to interact with the environment So what I can see in the future in terms of autonomous driving you can not only entertain yourself but also you can interact with the outside world through that magic and digital windscreen in front of you as well One thing that would be awesome is if you help also make it affordable to billions of people not just people who are very rich because I don't know how much the Apple VR is going to cost but it would be nice if there was some technology that was affordable to everybody Absolutely So that's why we are insisting on making micro-related happening in the silicon manufacturing mindset and establishment because we're utilizing existing capacity existing throughput and processing flow There's no introduction and additional funding required for the manufacturing setup So we are using fully depreciated legacy technology for the manufacturing that is guarantee the economics and cost reduction for this micro-related adoption in the future That brightness will be great for pancake lenses Yes, it is going to be working with all kinds of optical designs So the idea is we're providing all kinds of the brightness and the efficiency and performance that's needed for all kinds of user cases and specifications So whether it's AR, VR, XR or head-up display whether it's commercial consumer enterprise application we have all the solutions ready I've heard of amazing display technologies before where they said we are able to do something that can just do a small change in the LCD huge LCD factories and maybe they can make them Sometimes it's a great promise but still a small change is still something that scares the five billion dollar investment or whatever it's behind Can you promise that the changes you're talking about make sense, it's not so expensive? Yes, so it's not just a promise it's actually the action that we're taking in real life in terms of working with panel makers, utilizing their legacy technology but also working very closely with city confounders and legacy technology production lines for the manufacturing So it's not just that we are providing the technology platform but we're actually taking every step to guarantee the manufacturability and cost basis that's going to be affordable for everyone in the future And all these problems that some technologies have with burn-in it's not with the microlity It's a semiconductor device when it's off, it's off and it's guaranteed to be transparent so you don't have to fake the transparency as well as you don't have to fake the black So when it's off, it's a semiconductor device it's off You don't consume any power and electricity So that's the nature of the semiconductor device that is guarantee the differentiation between OLED and our technology Are there a bunch of optical tricks you can do to not require perfect yields and still sell everything Even there's a few dots Exactly And people will not see them somehow? Yes So there's many different ways that you can improve your yield to have full nice, five nice but we propose that you don't have to do that because you can make microlities much smaller but still benefit the efficiency of brightness When the pixels are getting smaller and the PPI's are much higher so we can be more tolerant with the yield So when there are dead pixels or dead dyes that you can forget about them you don't have the visibility but in the meantime we can make redundancies when the pixels are getting smaller so you can redundant them using software updates So that's a much similar mindset and philosophy that we are using in the CMOS industry And you are a Taiwan company? We are basically in the UK but we have a UK branch We have a Taiwan branch But you want to work with everybody in the world? Yes, exactly So whether it's in Europe, in the US, in Asia Exactly So we have a global supply chain for all kinds of customers and different applications We have a UK, Europe and US supply chain to be able to work with that side of the continent but we also have a Taiwan supply chain working with the Asian customer and manufacturing base as well You could work with the fabs that are anywhere? Yes, exactly There are some nice display fabs in the US? Yes, we are working with everyone and we are talking to all kinds of different partnerships that can guarantee our customers will have their products not just in the prototyping phase but also in the mass production phase And another little question is I'm just a YouTuber but often I'm like ah, how soon? And sometimes it takes many years and I grow older and stuff It would be nice to, how soon? How soon is it like people will go and buy it and it's not expensive and they can just buy it? 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