 He never was able to come from under the umbrella. He was under what umbrella is that pretty much the rapper like umbrella You know what I'm saying like he tried when he went over the death jam. Hey try this Just a word that gives you the opportunity to fail So, you know just You know after seeing that whole run, you know The way that that that rap a lot was moved cuz really scar phase, you know for the star traction for me during that time I'm not gonna say for everybody but for me He was the one that basically when I looked at the ghetto boys and when I looked at rap a lot I was a Brad Jordan fan You know what I mean and he was bringing singles and he might bring one by itself or it seemed like he was by itself a lot of times He'd rap two times on the verses and stuff So That was what I seen scar phase is one of the most underrated artists of all time He never actually got to do that. He deserved I'm not sure if he actually took to do that he deserved, but I know he don't he don't get it I feel like as far as he should have his hand somewhere somehow in Some of the powers of the southern music game Some kind of way because he he paved too much He kicked up too much dust in his prime and when when he was doing his thing For to make a way for a lot of other artists from the south man So, why do you feel that he didn't get his just do? Why do you feel that? He's so underrated. Why don't you feel like why do you feel like he didn't get to where he was supposed to be because he to Now you remember you asking me how yes. Yes How you feel right because he never was able to come from under the umbrella He was under what umbrella is that pretty much the rap a lot umbrella You know what I'm saying like he tried when he went over the depth jam. Hey tried It's just a word that gives you the opportunity to fail Yeah, you know I'm saying yeah, yeah, but I not get it and he did you know I'm saying but The whole time you see left it alone. Yeah, he left alone. He didn't stay long either You know I'm saying you didn't stay long later artists more successful than he actually ludicrous I was simply read from the years. I've been holding back then actually then he is yeah Yes, he was the one to introduce ludicrous. Okay, he put ludicrous in the game when he went and became the president Yeah So right now would you say because I hear it all the time But would you send your opinion that at this moment Scarface is the best rapper in Texas or in the south It's different for me now because I don't I don't at this point in my career. I don't even consider him a rapper I don't consider myself a rapper. I'm an author. I'm a speaker. I'm a street minister And what do you how do you consider him the same? I consider him as a street minister You know what I'm saying when he's in his element You know what I mean? I don't even like Today to be called a rapper is like totally different than when it when we did it back then It was it was it was not just um game has changed so much. Yeah, it's it's yeah, so