 Todd, you guys have always had a lot of success in play action. I'm wondering if you could talk about what has to happen, kind of at all levels, in order for a play action to be really successful, aside from having Derek Henry. Yeah, I believe that regardless of what the scheme is, it takes all 11 for us to be successful and that couldn't be more true in play action than anywhere else. And we need good pad level by the offensive line so that it sells run to the backers. We need good protection obviously inside out, good fake from the back. I think Ryan does a great job at seeding the football, making it look like a real exchange and of course you got to go win on your routes. So there's a lot that goes into it and you got to make it, you know, married to whatever your formations are in the run game as well, otherwise it doesn't look authentic. Derek, I'm pretty good at that with the fake situation and I asked him this too if it's a really good fake, it's his reward getting hit basically. I think there's certainly keyed in to him, you know, and I think we're always looking for ways to improve in areas we can improve our technique in our game, but I would say that's a fair assessment if he has a good fake, he's probably going to get thudded up. How much has the quality of AJ's routes maybe enhanced your play action the last couple of games? Yeah, he's such a strong route runner, right? So he can work through contact, he can work over the middle of the field, you know, and not be phased by reroutes and things like that. And so AJ's been working very, very hard for his game to kind of hit it stride and I've been happy for him that it has in the last couple of weeks. Is the way that he just kind of like accelerates through the catch, is that something that you feel is unique and makes him such a good yards after catch receiver? Yeah, I think, you know, just looking back over the course of my career, the guys that have produced with the ball in their hands are very confident catching it out in front of their body and accelerating through the catch like you said. You know, that gives them the momentum to break arm tackles or to fight through that contact at the catch point. And AJ works very hard to do that. So that's certainly an attribute that I think, you know, helps his success. One thing maybe we haven't seen as much from AJ this year is the yards after catch. Is that anything in particular you think on that or is it just a matter of getting to full health and so forth? Yeah, I think, you know, it shots on goal a little bit too, right? You know, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago in the run game. You know, we were close to popping one in the run game and we're fortunate enough to get out against Buffalo and have a nice long run there. And I think that the same holds true for AJ with these play passes. You know, he's, you know, certainly working hard at it and I feel like that success will come. Yeah, we joke around a little bit and say sometimes they need to marinate. You know, that one's not done marinating. And so it can vary. You know, it depends on the on the play, but obviously, you know, that's a play that we've repped in the past and, you know, just on different versions of it. And so we felt comfortable with Derek's decision making ability and the way that we're going to do it. You know, we're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We have a lot of people with Derek's decision making ability and, you know, his ability to get the ball up and down quickly without, you know, demanding too much of their out. So, yeah, you have to take it all the grain of salt. Everybody seems to be a former high school quarterback. You know, so it's, it's definitely, you know, I got to see it with my own eyes to believe it. know those guys those guys all do a great job when we ask them to do some of those kind of special gadget type plays and so it's fun to watch you know that marination process take hold much does it you know those those crossing routes at AJ runs so often how much do those set up you know the occasional like the like the 41 yard pass he had down the sidelines there how does one lead to the other yeah I think you need a good balance right it can't just all be in the same area that's you know easier for defenses to try to get defenders in those spots if you have too big a tendency there but you know obviously the commitment we have to our run game here and getting defenders to load the box we're gonna have to win some one-on-ones when we're afforded the opportunity to do so I thought that was an incredible throw by Ryan and a great catch by AJ you know and I think that you know it's just a an example of those two kind of building that chemistry and connection and getting back on the same page your play design do you kind of at this point just stick to what you've already put together that's in the book or do you ever like see something say hey you know we got to incorporate that into something else that that we're doing yeah it's always a blend you try to fit it in your own verbiage or terminology you know but certainly there their new ideas that come up or adjustments counter punches off of things that we've done I think that's any offensive system you know you have kind of an evolution as the year goes on adding little wrinkles here and there but ultimately you once your game plan to be founded on your bread and butter stuff you know the things that you have a lot of reps on in training camp and that we've logged in banked reps on over the last couple of years so you know I think it's an ongoing process but you know there's certainly tweaks and adjustments to go into the past where coaches would take things from different plays and layer it all into one is that something that that you've ever considered like hey this part of this play was good let's pull this part and then just put it all together to in the one yeah it could certainly be something based on maybe coverage in a pass game would be an example right there they play too high zone or they play single high zone so you want to build a single high answer on one side and two high answer on there is something like that so you definitely a blend concepts at times you know but again I think that depends on the opponent and it depends on what you're trying to get accomplished offensively a you know coach Stecco I need you to watch these style plays coach more you watch this one and they come back to you and come together you know it's more each guy has their own kind of section of the game plan that they they give the preview you know and if something comes up within that situation or within that chunk of the game plan you know they they they'll bring that idea to my attention it's a very collaborative staff I mean I I've conversations all the time with coach Vrabel you know all the way down to you know some of our quality control coaches and assistants everybody has a voice and we you know we try to do what's best for the offense each Sunday yeah I think they've always been a very sound and disciplined unit I think they play very hard clearly they make an emphasis on turnovers and taking the ball off the offense you know and so that's no surprise to me they maybe have had a little bit better results but you know I haven't seen much of a change in who they are what their identity is I have a lot of respect for this unit What have you liked out of what you've seen from him and what do you feel like he can get to with so many games left in the season? Sorry could you repeat that one more time? Karasi's making duck calls. With Julio back more healthy now what have you liked out of the past couple of games from him yeah you know I think you just see his professionalism right like he he understands how to run certain routes he understands how to diagnose different defenses notice whether it's too high or one high you just you kind of see that veteran presence come out a little bit you know it's less having to review a bunch of things with him and more just letting him know what we're trying to accomplish with the concept and then and then let him get after it yeah I think there's a balance there right you don't want to overthink it you don't want to go too far and say well they're gonna be ready for this so we gotta jerk the wheel and and go do this you know I think ultimately we try to make each game plan have a bunch of sound dancers for their base looks and then have rules that are tested enough to be able to handle the change ups they throw at us you know and if we can accomplish that then it keeps you from like I said jerking the wheel or making a drastic reaction to something you see on tape some Jim Brown clips over the years some of the old time footage of Jim Brown oh yeah I love I love NFL history and certainly a early part of my career did a lot of the NFL films studies we see every now and then a Derek Henry to Jim Brown comparison seems like there's been a few recently do you do you see that you know better than to try to bait me into a comparison I I think someday people are gonna be looking back at Derek Henry highlights with the same type of reverence