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You have Unleashed for Love which was created by Alicia Renee and Serita Wesley and we have the new one, Broke Down Profits from the New York Times Arthur of the Year Essay Cosby which stars Brian Tyree Henry, Dasha Polanco and a man named Jonathan Majors who was found not guilty. That's what we need to leave with. Pull up the Jonathan Majors story. I thought you was found guilty. You see, that's your problem. It's like partially guilty. No, he wasn't. But see, that's the problem I have with this whole conversation. People lead with headlines instead of actually looking at the details of the situation. Now, click on what actually happened in court this past week. Jury, click on the CNN one. Jury finds Jonathan Majors guilty of assault and harassment. Now, when you hear that, what do you think? Well, they said over her fingernail. But when you hear it, it's over a fingernail. He was accused of twisting her arm and punching her in the back of the head. Yeah, but he was only guilty of hurting her finger. That's my point. So the larger charge of twisting her arm, punching her in the back of the head, he was found not guilty of. Essentially what he got, he got two misdemeanors. He got found guilty of two misdemeanors. Pull up the article back up, Taylor. Oh, where is it at? Let me be professional here and read the breakdown. Even though Taylor just moved away from the news report to go to her cliff notes. Do we trust Taylor's cliff notes or do we trust? Now mind you, Taylor's notes are a neighborhood talk article. No, they're not. She moved away from CNN to go to a neighborhood talk article. I just want y'all to know that. No, I put this, first of all, I put the neighborhood talk thing so y'all could see what Megan, whatever it is saying. Sure, but why do we do this as a people? Why do we go away from trusted news sources like CNN that goes and slew the neighborhood talk, respect the neighborhood talk, but just think about that mentality. You were on CNN, huh? I'm just saying this stuff right here wasn't from it. But that's all previous stuff. This is as a verdict as expected. Yeah, see, here we go. A New York jury on this is CNN. A New York jury on Monday found actor Jonathan made just guilty of assault. Damn, Alex, you just gonna fart like that? Come on. Bro, God, damn it. Son, we just started. That's what I'm saying. Not even five minutes in. We trying to talk about some serious stuff and you just gonna fart? You gonna shoot already, huh? A New York jury on Monday found actor Jonathan made just guilty of assault and harassment of his former girlfriend during a domestic dispute. Major's arising star who was a period in Disney's Marvel franchises in Creed III was convicted on Monday of one count of reckless assault in the third degree and a non-criminal charge of harassment as a violation. Both of them were misdemeanors. He was acquitted on another assault charge and one count of aggravated harassment. So essentially, he got charged with the video you see when you see him, I guess, taking his phone and then taking her and then putting her back in the car and then taking off running. That's the misdemeanor assault charge. Him protecting himself. Him protecting himself. Why didn't there more conversation around the two larger charges being, him being found not guilty on? Because this is America and you expect that from an interracial relationship. Damn, damn. Damn. What's that question was that? Damn. So you think this is just straight racial? Yeah. Of course. And not to mention it was right after Creed just dropped, he just got a major contract with Marvel. I feel like we see this time and time again with any of our large black stars. We do have to stop acting like that's such a big deal though. You know, even when I heard Jonathan on the phone and Jonathan was talking and he was like, he's doing great things for the culture. We can assert the call. He's doing great things for the culture and great things in the world. It's like, bro, it was Creed III in that man. You know, that's like, that's not changing the world. Okay. He has a few labyrinths. I meant more so maybe not doing things for the culture. That's him. I just meant he's doing good as a black man. When y'all say things like that, I'm gonna tell you why it don't make sense to me because there's not these powers that be that care that he got a contract with Marvel. There's not these powers that be that care he did Creed III. There are always a racial component to it. Absolutely. We've been seeing that since the beginning of time. But my point, which saying all that is, there's poor black people who don't have, poor black men who don't have any of the things that Jonathan may just have had, who've had situations with white women who've experienced worse fates. Okay? You know, I mean, way, way, way worse fates. So I don't like when people just chalk it up to entertainment. I think it's, I think it's race and I think it's status. I think it's both. It could be status when you're looking at the DA Alvin Bragg. I've heard people say that. People say, you know, DA Alvin Bragg likes these kind of cases. You know, I don't know what to be true and what's not to be true. But all I know is nobody, I was watching CNN the other day, man, and I saw them having a discussion about the Jonathan Major's case and nobody once said these are two misdemeanors. Nobody once, now one time did somebody say he was charged with two misdemeanors. Now one time did they say the larger allegations of what the prosecution was saying, which was the twisting of the arm and punching in our head. Nobody said he was found not guilty on those. Everybody just runs with the headline, assault and harassment. There's no context to it. No nuance to it whatsoever. And he's dropped from Marvel now. I mean, that Marvel headline came out instantly. They were ready. Yeah, they were ready. They were ready. But my point is, do you think that if there was a actual conversation about the nuance of what happened, the nuance of what he actually was found guilty of, you don't think Marvel would have been like, you know what, I think we can stand by that. I feel like Marvel- Put him in some anger management, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I- Marvel was trying to get him out of there anyway. Why? See, nobody's having that conversation either. But I feel like Marvel was trying to get him out of there because they were so quick. Because phase five sucks. Exactly. If Ant-Man performed better and the show did a little bit better, they would have been like, this looks a little new on him. I hate when these companies try to take these moral stands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Phase five sucks. The King shit ain't working. Marvel has already had conversations and put things out there and said, hey man, they were already thinking about moving away from that way before this shit happened because Ant-Man didn't perform well. And because the whole King thing was getting too convoluted with the multiverse and all of this and that, they were already thinking about moving away from it. But now they want to act like they're taking some type of moral stand. They ain't take that kind of stand for Hawkeye. Ooh. Jeremy, what's his name? Jeremy Renner, what's his name? Renner, yeah. Now mind you, Jeremy Renner was just allegations that his wife made. Both allegations that he put a gun in his mouth and threatened to kill himself or something like that and threatened to kill her and the baby. Those are just allegations, right? I just don't understand when people pick and choose when they want to stand next to people. Because most people get those kind of allegations that Jeremy Renner did in a divorce court. A company like Marvel and Disney is moving away. Yeah, she accused them of emotional, physical and sexual abuse. Come on, man. Come on, man. You know what I mean? But in this case, he was still found guilty. Even though you found guilty of the lesser charges, he still put his hands on a woman and people would be like, ah, there's no room for that. Put his hands on a woman in the context of snatching his phone away and putting her back in the car. And then taking off running. I mean, it's still. No way from her. Like they literally said, they literally said in the charges, it proves he didn't have the intent to harm her. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So then why is there a charge in general? But I mean, I think- Because you're not supposed to put your hands on people. Like somebody stabs your women's suck in their teeth, by the way. I know, I'm just, I know. All the men in the room. They not suck our teeth. That's crazy. That was the women in the room, Taylor and Nile are sucking their teeth. That was not us. Just want you to know that. Because technically somebody takes your property. You're supposed to go to the cops. Hey, this person took my property. I want it back. Nobody does that. Somebody isn't. You know what's so great? Me and my cousin was working last yesterday, slew the perm and he asked me that too. He was like, yo, so what do you do in a situation if you're Jonathan Mages? Like what do you do in that situation? I'm like, man, let her keep the phone. Yes. That's what he should have done. You already want to break up with her anyway. It's over. You know what I'm saying? Like, let her keep the phone unless he's trying to protect somebody, which he may have been doing in that case right there. If the rumors are true, and the rumors were, it was the person we currently see him with all the time, making good, texting him. He didn't want to leave the phone with her because you never know. She might take that and run with that information. And they might not have been ready to be revealed to the world just yet. But I mean. This is such a silly video. It is not a silly video. Taylor said that video with him running is not silly. That is exactly what she should do. I was saying it's silly for her. Like, why is she chasing after him? That is exactly what you should do if you're in that situation. Take off running. If a white woman hits you and you're a black man, run. I mean, run and scream for help. If any woman hits you, run. Yeah, run. Run. What can you do? There's nothing you're going to be able to do in that situation. Because if she hits you, and let's just say you grab her hands. Like, you just grab her, just to hold her to keep her from hitting you. Now I'm going to get a misdemeanor or a soul charge. Well, she calls her please. She's definitely calling her please. Well, yeah, her, yeah. I'm just saying that like... I don't know, man. I'm just saying all that to say broke down profits is on Audible right now. Written by S.A. Cogby. She went about why is media not having the conversation about how he had such heavy charges? Because then they would have to take accountability for all the things that they've been putting out. Well, it's not me... See, it's never media. Well, it is sometimes, but it's social media. It's the conversation around media. I think it's mostly. That was the CNN headline. The CNN headline is the one... You're right. I mean, because technically... That's a credible source. Technically, he did get charged, you know, with assault and harassment, but there's levels to it. It was two misdemeanors is all I'm saying. One is a non... It's a non-criminal charge. So I don't even understand that. But words like non-criminal charge don't get them the clicks and the likes that they need. So why would they use that? But that is whack, man. You're playing with people's reputations. You're playing with people's livelihoods. You know what I mean? Like, that's just whack. Like, why can't we have nuanced conversation? Like, why do we always got to just run with the most salacious headline just for clicks and shits and giggles? Because we know motherfuckers don't read. We know motherfuckers don't ever get to the nuance of the situation ever. Never. It's just whatever the headline is, and now you stuck with that. Marvel saw that headline. He like, man, drop the press release. I know. Drop it. Put it out. Even though Marvel, y'all know good and damn well, y'all thought the whole King Dynasty was whack anyway, and y'all was looking for a reason to prune that shit from y'all timeline. OK, let's not act like y'all took some moral high ground because there's a lot of sketchy things that have happened with people in the Marvel universe that y'all ain't in no rush to drop people over. And they ain't just Hawkeye. So, another superhero. I'm going to keep that one quiet, though. It's out there. You can Google it. The crazy part about this is that he came home and so passed out, and he called the cops. So had he not called the cops, no one would have known about this. You called 911. You reported, and you end up in jail? Yeah, it's great. Come on, man. Come on, man. I mean, I don't know what's what. I don't know what's true or what's not true. I'm just saying that there's a lot of nuance in this situation, and there's usually a lot of nuance in all these situations, but we never explore it because we just live in a world where people have to pick a side. It's easy like, I got to be right. I got to be left. I got to be over here. I got to be over there. Like, nobody can ever discuss everything that's in the middle of it. And I think that's why these companies like Marvel jump to do stuff like this, because automatically, he's painted as a woman-beater. Now, you hear the phone call, right? I saw them taking that into consideration as well. Does the phone call, does that mean he's violent or arrogant? I hear a lot of arrogance. I hear a lot of ego. People don't like arrogance, though. Oh. Like, it doesn't help. No, at all. Like, I don't want to hear you telling a white woman that she need to be more like a Reddiskot King and Michelle Obama. And I don't want to hear you tell me that what you're doing is affecting culture and the world. Like, you did Creed III and that man. You know what I'm saying? Let him feel great, though. I think so. Wait, actually, I think he's saying that, though, because, like, black women looked at him like, oh, like, there's another black man to look that's handsome and everything else. Like, I think that's what he's taking in. Is handsome as I am? Do I act like that? Yes. Yes. What the? Anyway. Is handsome as I am? Do you hear me out here saying that I'm changing the world? Yes. Exactly. Like, what are you talking about? This is all the first part and just answer your question. What do I say stuff like this? And then secondly, I think in regards to him changing the world, I think just being a successful black man is a statement in itself. Just like being a well-versed, educated black woman is a statement in itself. So to be fair, like, he can do that. There are way less successful black men than there are unsuccessful. So he could. Depends what you call success. I think that we're looking at it from an entertainment perspective. I'm just saying in general that nigga got a paying job that does well. So do black doctors. OK, and I'm not saying they don't exist. So do black lawyers. I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just saying that. He's a celebrity. America worship celebrity. We put celebrity on a pedestal. We act like celebrities do such amazing things. I tell y'all all the time, this shit is just radio. It's just TV. It's just books. Like, I worked at Taco Bell and sold crack. You know what I'm saying? I worked at a factory. I worked at a flower garden. Like, those are the people that are actually making the world go around. What does that work at Taco Bell and sell crack or making the world go around? That's what we. Way more important than entertainers. What are you talking about? Yeah, they're just killing our community. Fast food workers. They're killing our community with the food and the cracks. They don't own the fast food companies. They just work there to make a living. But do you eat fast food? Not anymore. My doctor told me not to. Well, your doctor don't tell you. But when you did. You want to know why he told me not to eat that? Because it's fucking killing me. Sure. But when you worked there, when you did eat it, when you walked into those restaurants, you were happy when somebody got your food on time. They gave me my fucking order wrong. I had to come back in. They forgot to give me the sauce. It was a headache. Because they knew you shouldn't have been eating that shit. Never mind. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it went fast. First of all, fast food workers are essential. Do not hate on those fast food workers, regardless of what you may think of the fast food. Y'all wake up in the morning, and y'all go to these establishments. And if it wasn't for them, you wouldn't get what the fuck you need. I make oatmeal. Well, that's true. But there's a lot of people that go to these fast food establishments. That's why they make multi-billion dollars. I'm not saying they're not essential workers. And crap. All I'm saying is, you're crazy. It's motherfuckers that can't get through their day right now without a hit. So that's not a good hit for yourself. It keeps the world going round, bro. Y'all are crazy. If you didn't have crack, you know how much things you wouldn't have. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Some of the greatest content of all time was centered around crack. Every great drug movie you love, this music you love. And what do I always talk about? The fly females in the hood who had all the fly gear and stuff. And I always say, I'm tired of seeing that shit. I've seen five fucking shows. I feel like this year alone. And I'm like, OK, I get it. You know why you watch them all? I don't want to see it no more. Name them. But you're watching them all. DMF. Raisin' Canaan. Snowfall. Snowfall. That's right. What's the Harlem one? The one with Forth Whitaker. Godfather Harlem? Godfather Harlem. What else? That's five, isn't it? Five. But that's what you were choosing to watch. Did you enjoy it? I did. You enjoyed them. You know why you got those shows? Crack. Crack. Crack, crack, crack, crack, crack. That doesn't let the world go round. That actually didn't help our community at all. It helped some. And then they ended up in jail. And then their families got this man. So now they coming out. And now we're glorifying it through. It's not glorifying. You're just telling a story. Nobody ever said, nobody ever said Italians was glorifying the mob. Oh my god. Nobody ever said that. They definitely were. They were. They were just telling a story. Everybody knows film and music glorifies the things that you're talking about. I don't know if glorification is the word. I think sometimes you end up dead or in jail. So it's not really glorifying. The only time we're in that corner. Cautionary tales. The only time, it's not really cautionary because they're not telling you to not do this. It's actually encouraging niggas like, damn, he could do that. They're not watching the whole movie now. You turn in the movie before it ends then. I mean, the only show that you watch him is like, damn, this didn't end well with Snowfall. Like, nobody wanted to beat him. BMF is based off a true story. Solute the Big Meets. Big Meets has been in jail for the longest. We're not seeing that in the show. You about to? He's going to get to it. By the way, there's no story you read that, you know, these people didn't end up in jail or dead. Like, Godfather Harlem is based off real people. Who's it based off? Nicky Barnes, right? Yeah. This is right. No, it's off Bumpy Johnson. Bumpy Johnson. Google is your friend. When you watch these shows, you can Google to see how this stuff is going to end. You said niggas don't read. Now you want us to see how. Niggas don't read, but niggas are Google. Niggas won't pick up any of these. But these niggas are Google, OK? A nigga will Google, and y'all will watch a YouTube video, there's plenty of YouTube videos about Bumpy Johnson and all these drug dealers and how their life ends. All I'm simply saying is, don't front on crack. Yes, it ruined communities. But it also gave you some great content. And you just named five shows that you love because of crack. Yes, they're great shows. But it was just like, damn, I need to. I need to see something else. Maybe an Ant-Man, you know. Well, there's plenty of movies though you could watch. Yeah, you are choosing that. I'm really choosing. So you're saying Taco Bell workers and crack. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is everybody plays a part. And I think sometimes because we worship celebrity, the way we do it in America, and we're so obsessed with celebrity, we put celebrities on a pedestal that they may or may not deserve to be on. You know what I mean? Like, there's plenty of actors and actresses in Hollywood who are doing very well. And I've never seen any of their movies. You understand what I'm saying? But you're going to interact with one of these essential workers every day of your life. You know what I mean? Like, literally, I can't I can't front on the fast food workers like that. Like, if you ask me, I think they're more important than a lot of these actors and actresses. I mean, I don't know. To me, regardless if you're a fast food worker or you're an entertainer, it's just about good character. So if you're doing a bad job at your service, I'm not fucking giving you a great tip. And also, if you're an asshole entertainer, I'm not supporting your show. But you've interacted with more fast food workers than you ever have entertainers, even in your line of work. Just make sure you're a good person and do good shit. And then you'll get the support. I agree with you. I'm just, I don't even know how we got on this conversation, but. Me either. I thought we was talking about fucking, no, no. The moral of the story is with the Jonathan Major situation, I just wish people dealt with more nuance. And I wish people had more of the detailed conversation about what he actually was charged with. And just going back to what I was saying earlier, and even though this was presented in the court of law, so it makes sense, people take these phone calls and these videos, and they piece all of these things together to create their own narrative. So most of the time, you guilty before proving innocent in the court of law. Like I was literally, I was having a conversation with somebody the other day and it was like, man, Jonathan Major should have did an interview. No, he shouldn't have. Jonathan Major should have testified in court, which he didn't do. But the person was like, no, he should have sat down and did a one-on-one interview with somebody, for what, for the court of public opinion? This might be one of those cases where the court of public opinion might work in his benefit, because that video of him running away, everybody's looking at that like, yo, he wasn't doing anything. Like he's running away to save himself. So this might be the case where he's all right. Alex is absolutely right. And that goes back to my point. Marvel could have stuck around if they wanted to. Oh yeah. Marvel didn't want to. Marvel wanted the prune king from their fucking timeline, because they do that that king dynasty shit was not working. The Ant-Man shit didn't turn out too well. They probably was looking at what happened with Flash and Ezra Miller. And Ezra had way wild discharges than Jonathan. Several of them. And DC still stuck by Ezra and put that movie out. And it didn't do well. And they're probably looking at what just happened with the Marvels and the lowest grossing movie of all time in Marvel history. And so they was like, you know what? Let's move away from this now. Let's cut our losses and let's try to reset this. Do you feel like, because I feel like Jonathan Majors is a really good actor. And I feel like the creed two or three would have helped push for his next movie. Nah, I think he had way better shit coming out than that. I think that magazine Dreams movie that Disney bought, they was talking about him winning the Oscar for that shit. I haven't seen it, but everybody who saw that film festivals and stuff says it's fantastic. He plays like a bodybuilder who has like anger management issues, you know? And I think because of steroid use. So I mean, it just makes you wonder how much art is imitating life, you know what I mean? And then that's the other thing, man, when it comes to these situations, it's like we crucify these people, but nobody ever talks about what the solution is. The solution can't just be, don't date white women. You know what I'm saying? That can't just be the solution, the solution is. No, I'm not saying that can't be the solution. That is a piece of advice. My brother, you know, I'm concerned. But it's just triggering because of my experience in America, I held three white men can't call them the other day and I was terrified. Like I ain't never been scared of a nigga trying to talk to me, but. That wasn't a nigga, see? Stop blaming us for shit that the white man do. What? You said three white men tried to highlight you. She said she'd never been scared. Oh, you're temporary. I said I was terrified when they tried to talk. I'm sorry, no, because earlier. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry, no, no, no, you know why? Because earlier I watched you call a non Negro a nigga. No, no, no, I had said niggas, but I was referring to people. That's what I'm saying. So I thought you was calling those three white men niggas again just now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You said, okay. I'll get what you're saying. I was just saying, I was terrified. Not that I had a crazy experience with white men, but just because of the climate in the country, I was scared. Sure. So that's why I feel like that for black men as well. Like I'd be concerned. Sure, you know, I'm all for black love. You know what I mean? I'll ride with Dr. Umar on that point all day, every day. Okay, salute to Dr. Umar. I don't have a problem with interracial relationships, but I like seeing black people with black people. Y'all know what I'm saying. All I'm simply saying is that can't be the only lesson that is learned from this situation. Don't date white women. But I mean, if you're just trying to say, like we need to have more nuanced conversations, we could pull that from any fucking headline. And people need to deal with their anger issues. One thing Jonathan said in that call that gets lost is he said, look, I have a temper or something to that effect. I'm paraphrasing, but he was like, I got a temper. We could play the call. He was like, you know, aside from my temper, I'm a great man. I do great things for my culture and my community in the world. You know, even though he just did Airman and Crete. Okay, but still. We're glad about the other shows. Maybe there's something else he's doing. Lovecraft Country? Either way, now look at that. Lovecraft Country was fire. It was fire. But it ain't changing the world, guys. They should bring that back. Come on, stop. But if he's performing at the top tier of his industry, then that means he's doing great things. Representation matters. Representation doesn't matter, but there's no actor in the world who's ever done a performance that's so great that's changed the world. Chad, Chadwick Bowman. God bless Chadwick Bowman. Rest in peace. Black Panther didn't change the world. Black Panther definitely, yo, come on. I don't think y'all, y'all generation ain't seen enough. When you say change the world of what? Like, just our mindsets and stuff? Ten. No. Our mindsets are about what? Chris, can you give them some examples of people who've changed the actual world? I wanna know. Like Malcolm Agnes. No, no, no. I'm talking about, you're talking about, like, actors. That's what I'm saying. We're arguing about how. Robert Einstein changed the world. We can say that, right? No, I'm thinking you're saying. I think Martin Luther King Jr. changed the world. No, you're right. I don't think I'm talking, I thought you were talking about, like, movies-wise. Oh, she's talking about it. That's what I'm talking about. So you're talking about entertainment. Yeah. But that's my point. What entertainer has changed the world through a role? The world? Yes. Does representation matter? Yes. Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho. I got one. Okay. Maybe not an actor, but an artist. Michael Jackson. Entertainer changed the world. Michael changed the world. And unified. What? Yes. Yes. Yeah, I don't know how to change the world. Like, how? He combined sound. He had rock, the thriller project we were just talking about. He had actual rock art. He didn't, I'm talking about changing society. Shifting society. He unified people through music. Even in his music video. He turned into a white man. In the, because he had a fucking disease. But in the thriller music video, he literally has dancers, theater people, crips, gorillas. By the way, I love Michael Jackson to death, but if Michael Jackson would have came out with a, it don't matter if you black and white in this area, y'all would have crucified him. Y'all would have called him my Uncle Tom. Y'all would have called him a Coon. Y'all would have called him all lives mad of Michael Jackson. I wouldn't have called him that, because I don't got a problem with white people. I just, I think. Because it does matter if you're black or white. It does matter, but, oh God. You're missing the point of the record. Okay, all right, no. Okay, Taylor just put up, this is a good one. Often referred to as the king of pop, his achievements helped to complete the desegregation of popular music in the United States and introduced an era of multiculturalism and integration that future generations of artists followed. What do you think, Chris? What do you think, Chris? No, he literally got black music. Y'all hush when a Jewish man is about to talk. You're a part of the problem. It doesn't matter if you're black or white. He's Jewish. White. Speak, Mr. Jew. Speak, Chris, speak, Chris. Tell him, Chris. It's okay. I mean, he helped desegregate MTV, which I guess is not an insignificant thing, but I think you can make the case that rap changed the world. Rock and roll changed the world as genres. Yeah, you gotta kind of give Michael that first because Michael, wasn't Michael the first black person that was played on MTV? It wasn't the same. It was either him or the Rocksbox video. I think it was Run DMC, maybe. But he was- It was Michael. I think it was Michael. It was Michael. It was Michael. It was Run DMC. Because Michael, Thriller was like 82? Michael was the first one. Run DMC was like 86? Yeah. It's Mike, perfect. I just watched a documentary on it. Chris, you wanna say what I'm saying. You don't feel like entertainment is that important? No, I think entertainment is really important. I just don't know if I would use. I think the NBA has changed the world if you're talking about race relations, right? I think like- Race relations. I think we still got some work to do. Muhammad Ali. Yeah. Muhammad Ali. That's a good one. Yeah, Muhammad Ali definitely. I mean, if you're saying Michael Jackson changed the world, my point is it sounds like what you're saying is he changed how people perceive African-American performers, right? Did they, though? Yes. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. Yes, he had fans of all colors passing out to go see him. Sure. But what legislation was changed because of that? No legislation, but it made- It did not dismantle white supremacy. I think it made us and our art more accepting. They loved, they loved one of us. But that's the thing, though. They love our art, but don't love us. Hey, I think we gotta start somewhere. It's been, that was the 80s. Yeah. That was the 80s, too. He was like an outlier, though, because- You asked me for an example- I would argue public enemy more than Michael Jackson in a way. Public enemy? I don't think they're global enough. They were really global. Mike is known every- I don't think- They made, I mean, their impact on white people thinking about politics was really significant. See- Oh, oh, oh, I got one, I got one. I'm gonna read this right now. It says Michael Jackson broke racial barriers and became a global icon transcending cultural boundaries. The moonwalk, a dance movie popularized, became a global sensation and solidified his status as a pop coach phenomenon. All of that is true for Michael Jackson, to the point where somebody like, remember, you got entertainers throughout the years, whether it was Donald Glover or OJ Simpson, they always felt like you could get to a place where you're so famous, you're not black anymore. They always, they always said that. That's what OJ said, I'm not black, I'm OJ. So for Michael, yeah, Michael might've got looked at through the lens of, that's Michael Jackson. He ain't black, he ain't white, that's Michael. But what about the rest of us? Changing your world, don't change the world. That's what I mean by outlier. I would say NWA impacted society. NWA. Uncle Luke. No, no, Bob Marley. Bob Marley, his whole thing was politics. Pull up Bob Marley, he's a great example. Yeah, Bob Marley's a great example. Bob Marley's a great example. Harry Belafonte, for that error, yeah. But you know why though? Because Harry Belafonte was used, but he was using his celebrity to fuel social justice movements. Harry Belafonte was funding Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. And what he was doing, fucking Dale, he say, Dave, he say, Dave, he say, Dale. That was just a great song that we loved. That don't change the world. There's a lot of great music that we love. But it, music can't change the world, don't get me wrong. There are some songs I think have changed the world. Like, We Are The World was a very impactful record. You know what I mean? To me, what's another song I think wouldn't use it? I don't know. All right, listen man. But there's a lot of people who are doing things but aren't like doing social justice. But read that about Bob Marley. What does the first thing say? I can't read a song, I'm a lesson. Jesus Christ, you are really, you're 27. I'm old at heart. You're 27 and got a 70 year old diet. Your doctor said you can only eat fucking soft foods. Shut up. And you can't see. What's the point of being 27? First of all, just read the goddamn character. It says, apart from his activism. That's the first thing. Apart from his activism, Marley was also an unofficial ambassador for Jamaica. As the island's most famous and impactful export, Marley introduced to the world not only Jamaican music but also Rastafarianism, rooted in ideas of personal and spiritual freedom, peace, love, and cultural unity. That's not entertainment. Now, he got famous because of his entertainment and he would put those things in his music. Yes. But him, the person, and the other things he was doing is what changed the world. He was just using music as like, I guess the vehicle, the vehicle to it. To reach. That's true. To reach. I guess people wouldn't love him if it wasn't for the music. I wouldn't know about the political climate in Jamaica if it wasn't for Bob Marley. So that's what I would say to a person like Jonathan Mages. I would say, if you're using your celebrity to do this kind of stuff, the way Harry Belafonte did, the way even an Aretha Franklin did, then you're helping to change the world. He was getting there. He was dressing like a civil rights activist. He definitely was dressing like a civil rights activist. No, that's the part of being an activist though. You got it. No, no, no, no. He was priming us, you know? Well, maybe this kind. I've never seen a picture of Jonathan Mages that I didn't think should have been in black and white. What about that picture? Every single picture I've ever seen of him looked like it should be in black and white. Oh, Ebony Mag with the flowers. People were really hated it, but I liked it, yeah. I like that picture. That should have been black and white? No, anytime he puts on a suit and shoes, he should have been in black and white. But, hey man, I don't know what's going to happen with Jonathan Mages. I just know that we live in a very, very, very unforgiving world. And we never have the other conversations we should be having. We should be talking about the trauma that the woman went through, the trauma that Jonathan Mages is going through. We should be having those conversations. How do we prevent things like this from happening in the future? Once again, it can't just be, hey, black men, don't date white women. Even though I'm fine with it, if y'all choose not to. I'm just simply saying that that can't be the resolution from this. Because what happens to the next person that's in this situation? You know what I mean? It's got to be some type of something has to come from this. Well, how are you expecting conversations to be had if we are all kind of brainwashed daily? It's plain. Where are the places for people to have these conversations? Not social media. That's my point. We're not even having nuanced conversations anymore. Everything is just black or white. It either is or it ain't. And I'm like, that's not the way the world works, y'all. Like, you've got to have nuanced conversations about things, man. There's a lot more details that go into things. Even when I was watching CNN the other day, I think I was watching. I forgot who I was watching. But the person was like, and Jonathan has been accused of things before. And then right after she said that, she mentioned Diddy. And I'm like, whoa. You can't just say that. Why should we do this together? You got to tell me what else he was accused of. Because the things I've heard him being accused of is just being an asshole. Being tantrums on set and being angry and mean and stuff like that. 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We got some big artists in the stage. Word. And you know why I'm here? Cause he's not ready. Make sure you guys follow my podcast at W-A-T-T-L-K. We need to talk. I drive two episodes a week, you know, interviews, they've been doing really, really well. My skill at baby one is doing phenomenal. So check it out. I think it's pretty funny. That's big Nila. I just want to thank everybody, man. It's been a great year. You know, a lot of content we put out this year, you know, not just from, you know, Breakfast Club. You see, you know, I got my book imprint, Black Frivoless Publishing with Simon and Schuester. We put out Invisible Generals by my man, Doug Melville. That is available in bookstores right now. Also on Audible, we put out Unleashed for Love this year, salute to my good sister, Alicia Renee, salute to Sarita Wesley. Audio scripted, sitcom, you know, thank you to everybody who'd be leaving comments and reviews on Audible about that. Broke Down Profits, this is a crime thriller, you know, written by my man, Essay Cosby, you know, starring Brian Tyree Henry and Dash Palanco, Jonathan Mages. I think Donnell Rollins is on this as well. So listen, I just want y'all to continue to support what it is that we're doing. Go to Audible. Thank you to everybody who, you know, already listening to Finding Tameka in Summer of 85, salute to everybody who's already picked up, you know, Tameka Mallory, State of Emergency, that came out a couple of years ago. Anita Kopeck, Shallow Waters, that came out a couple of years ago. And, you know, I even put my books up here, Black Privilege and Shook One Anxiety, playing tricks on me, man, just because I really do truly appreciate the support because these are the things that are always constantly moving, you know, even when we may not be. What do you know? What? Can I say one thing? Chris, go ahead. People should really check out the Essay Cosby. He's really one of the best writers out there right now. I think he's a guy who's really, I mean, he's already broke, right? Like he's not a secret, but I think people are gonna really have him like on a Walter Mosley level in a year or two. Stephen King said that Essay Cosby one of his favorite writers. And a very cool guy. Very cool guy from Virginia. New York Times, New York Times said Essay Cosby is the author of the year. Like every single project he's done has already gotten picked up for a TV or film. You know, he did a great book called Razor Blade Tis. The other one was all- Blacktop, what's the one I just read? Hold on. Hold on, let me pull up. Let's love on Essay Cosby real quick. What was the other one? The other one was something- Blacktop Wasteland I just finished last week. I really enjoyed that. Blacktop Wasteland is the other one too. The Sinners book, All the Sinners Bleed. Yeah, yeah. He's put out Razor Blade Tis, Blacktop Wasteland, All the Sinners Bleed. All his books have already gotten picked up for films and TV shows. Paramount Plus is actually doing Razor Blade Tis and you know, Broke Down Prophets by Essay Cosby. We've already, salute. That's all I'm gonna say. Slew to my guy Essay Cosby, man. But yeah, just check out everything we're doing on Audible. Like this, we put out some really great work on Audible. This is different. This is our audio documentary finding, Tamika is. Audio documentary, Summer of 85 is. Audio scripted series, sitcom Unleashed for Love is. Audio film series, Broke Down Prophets is, man. So you know, salute. What is this? Why is this in a box like this? That's the CD version, because I couldn't find a book. That's the CD version of Shook One. But no, it's just a beautiful thing. To be a New York Times best-selling author, man, and now to have my own imprint, Black Privilege publishing and to be able to help other people get their product out, that's an amazing thing. Me and Chris are working on my third book as we speak right now. You guys are changing the world. Yes. In a real way. You wrote a book about. It's different, that's what I'm saying. Books are different. I'm not saying music can't, I'm not saying entertainment and music can't change the world. I'm just saying like, Creed III and Ant-Man didn't. That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying Creed III and Ant-Man didn't. That's all. Not saying that Jonathan wouldn't have ultimately did a role that, you know, impacted people in that way, but it's not about what you do in entertainment. It's about what you do with that celebrity. Yeah, it's about what you do with that reach. That's all I'm saying. I haven't seen him, you know, get to that point yet, but he didn't even really get the opportunity to. But that's what I tell everybody. If you got a platform, if you got reach, use it to actually do something that fucking matters. That's all I'm saying. Yo, play my man Drake, yo. Drake gon' fuck around and be my mood all 2024. I'm not gon' front, yo. I might even get me some little specs the way at the end of my nose, yo. Please don't. Play Drake one time. Play Drake one time. Play Aubrey Graham. It looks like skin nigga alive. To the rest of us. The non-believers, the underachievers, the tweet and the leaders, you guys made me sick to my stomachs, fam. Me too. Honestly, if you guys wanna look at my eyes, you guys wanna do something? That's right. That's what I thought. They don't wanna do a goddamn thing. That's what I thought. The non-believers, underachievers, tweeting the leaders. I don't know who the fuck he talking about, but I know who I'm talking about. I say that type of shit, okay? Drake gon' fuck around and be my mood for the rest of you guys. They say he was talking about Metro Boomin. What Metro do? I don't know, but Metro Boomin. He tweeted. Oh, we put out a tweet about how his, look at it. Something about his album got overlooked and Drake's got praised. I don't know anything about that. Is it Metro nominated for a Grammy? Did I make this up? I'm not sure. Aren't Metro and Drake nominated for a Grammy? I don't know what it was. Pull that up real quick before I go back to Drake. It ain't even about Drake. It's about what Drake said, because I really, he's nominated for a Grammy, right? That's true. Yeah, I think he's nominated in the Rap Album of the Year category too. I think, I think, go to Rap Album of the Year for Grammys. Taylor Gang? You gotta type it in. Yeah, type in Rap Album of the Year 2003 Grammys. Cause I'm really just, I wanna prove my, I'm really just pulling this up to say one thing. On top of Best Rap Album of the Year, Metro Boomin. So Metro Boomin's nominated for Rap Album of the Year. Drake in 21 are nominated for Rap Album of the Year. I hope they not beefing over this. Cause neither one of them should win. Killer Mike should win this hands down. Killer Mike should win Rap Album of the Year. Michael hands down, period. But I just like what Drake said, man, cause they make me sick to my goddamn stomach too. Metro Boomin criticized, award shows at large as just politics, citing her loss of victories over his album. Yeah. And then he deleted the tweet. See, I don't like that. I don't like that. You know what I'm saying? Cause you know why I don't like that? Deleting tweets are pointless. Yeah, I know. It's actually the most pointless thing in the world to delete a tweet. You said it, it's out there, people are gonna grab it, they're gonna repost it, they're gonna retweet it. I don't like the backtracking. If that's how you feel, stand on it, Elliot Wilson. That's why I don't like Elliot Wilson always apologizing to people after he say some shit. Even if I disagree with what he says, which majority of the time I do, I don't agree with him constantly apologizing. I mean... Because if you're that person that puts things out there and wants smoke and then apologizes every time, why should we believe you in the first place? Well, I think Elliot is a nice person. So I think that once confronted, he feels guilty about what he said. Well, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Listen to Juicy J. Listen to Juicy J. It's okay to shut the fuck up. But... Who's telling people they gotta talk? But also, I think he feels away because the climate has changed and he feels like he's not a part of the race anymore. Well, that's silly for him to think that. He's Elliot Wilson. It is silly for him to think that. Elliot Wilson has been around a long time. He was the editor-in-chief of XXL Magazine. He launched a fantastic platform with my man, B.DOT, called Rap Radar. You know, when everybody was running to .coms back in the day, Rap Radar was definitely one of the ones. He turned that into a great podcast with Rap Radar. Like, there's no reason for Elliot Wilson to feel insecure about his position in culture. But guess what? I'm not using that. I'm not letting him use that as an excuse. You know, some shit you should feel bad for, as you just said, Nila. We've all done it. We've all said things where we felt bad. But you can't feel bad for every fucking thing. Every single time he's criticized somebody this shit, he's ended up apologizing. Whoa. And I'm not saying nothing to Elliot that I haven't told Elliot. Me and Elliot have this conversation all day. I think that Nicky should he definitely need to apologize for. No, because he didn't diss Nicky. He should apologize. He should apologize to Kai. He should apologize to Kai. And if he felt like that about Kai, stand on it. But no, he did. The apology technically felt like it was for him. It's to both of them. It felt more to Kai than. You're right. Let me take a step back. He shouldn't have been criticizing Kai in the first place. I don't know Kai as to not from a can of paint, never met the young man. But I salute that young man for everything that he's built. You know why? Because Kai as to not is everything we say we want hip hop to be. We say we get tired of motherfuckers talking shit about other artists all the time, beefing with each other. We talk about how we can't stand to see people just going in on ranch. God bless you. We hate to see people going in on ranch all the time. Like everything that we say is negative within the culture. Kai ain't doing none of that. Kai is fucking soul train. Kai is soul train. His streams are always positive. Streams are positive. You go watch Kai's tonight, you see him dancing, having a good time, listening to music. What could you say negative about that? That's why it's just pure hate. And I don't like hate. I like constructive criticism. I like people who can look at something and give a nice objective take on it. What Elliot did to Kai so not was pure hate. There's nobody like, there's nobody that's of Elliot Wilson stature who should look at Kai and feel threatened in any way, shape or form. What if he's looking for something like he wanted to interview with Nicki Minaj. So what? I'm saying he's coming from that perspective because he does that. But I feel like all the podcast niggas be doing that shit. All them niggas be inciting beefs. And one person goes sit with this platform so then they go shit on the person who just interviewed with them just so they can get a headline and talk. I don't think it's just podcasts. I think it's entertainers and creatives. They're sensitive about their work. And then sometimes when they fail away to a lash out, like Drake lashed out against you when you say something negative about. What's a lash out? Sure, but that's not the same. What Elliot did to Kai is not that. Yeah, but you weren't hating on him. You were giving constructive criticism. I'm always hating on Drake. I mean. What's wrong with y'all? I'm not, I told y'all this. I'm always hating on Drake. What are we talking about? We're getting the content they have. Because I do give constructive criticism, but majority of my criticism of Drake, whether you agree with it or not, throughout the years has been hate. Wow, listen to you. And I don't, by the way, I'm not even, I don't have a reason to hate Drake. I just, it's just, you know, it's from childhood. So you part of the problem. No. Historically, late-skinned men have always gotten teased. Dark-skinned men have always teased late-skinned men. And vice versa. No. Ain't a light-skinned men ever teased. That's all you crazy? Nino Brown stabbed motherfucking, Nino Brown, what the fuck? Nino Brown stabbed the pretty nigga from the bank in the hand. It wasn't the other way around. Okay, all right? No, I'm just fucking with y'all. But my- I know you're not, too. I don't know if I am or not, but I know I'm serious about what I'm saying about Elliot. What Elliot did is pure hate on Kai's tonight. And I did not- It's not just Elliot. All these niggas be hating for no reason. This is the- You're right, but this is the most recent example. And the reason I think this is so egregious is because Kai is 22 years old. Kai is the leader of the new school when it comes to hip-hop, period. We don't gotta call it journalism, but he's a hip-hop personality. But why is what he doing not journalism? I saw him sitting with Dickey, and I saw Dickey telling a story to him that Dickey said she ain't ever told nowhere else about the record with Drake, when she said that she broke down on how the record was supposed to be on Drake's album, but then she decided to use it for hers and yada, yada, yada. Is that not journalism? It is. How's that not journalism? I don't know that's journalism. All right, so what is journalism then? What is journalism? I think it's about like a conversation that's just asking questions and getting in. I think it's like research. Like she's volunteering that information versus just- Nah, but y'all shouldn't put it in a box. It's like, if you're doing it, conducting an interview, hey, if you're dancing and having fun while doing it, but if you're still finding out information about the person that they've never said it in place else, that's still an interview. You're still finding that. So is journalism just a documentation of something, or is it actually like doing research and then- Probably a combination of both. Okay, well, let's just say, you don't want to call Kai a journalist. He's a hip hop personality. And what I would tell that young man is stay away from all the sucker shit. You know what I mean? Don't let none of these motherfuckers embrace you because a lot of these people is just gonna be trying to suck off your energy and ride your wave. Because if that young man stays on the path he's on, he got $100 million on his schedule in record time. He's 22 years old. A lot of these people that are in this game right now, they're 35, I'm old, gee, I'm 45 years old, but I'm already in the radio hall of fame. I'm already home, y'all. You know what I'm saying? But for the rest of y'all, the rest of y'all that's still out here figuring it out, working, you're 34, 35 years old. In four, five years, you're gonna be 40. Kai's only gonna be 26. So be very careful about the things you're saying about the so-called OGs now. Cause when you're 40 and Kai's only 26, you're gonna look ancient as fuck. Like ancient, like beyond ancient. So you just gotta be very, very careful, man. I like what Kai Sonata's doing. I don't see how anybody can speak negatively that Kai's not in any way, shape, or form. He's a literally soul train. Mother fuckers is on there dancing, not caring about how goofy they look. His mom is in there dancing with him. His sister, they're all having a good time. Can you imagine an esteemed, who's an esteemed journalist? Like imagine Dan rather hating on Don Cornelius. If you just wanna keep it black, who's a great black personality from that time? The soul train time, Chris. Was it P.D. Green? P.D. Green was great. The greatest radio personality of all time? The guy in New York who I'm blanking on. Who's the guy? Frankie Crocker. Frankie Crocker. Boom. But to the journalism point, the thing with journalism is not about research. It's about also adhering to ethics, essentially. There has to be accountability. There has to be impartiality. You can't take money from sources. You have to double check all your sources. If one person tells you one thing, you have to collaborate that with two or three other sources. I mean, that's really the part of journalism that's missing. Because journalism are writers, essentially. Like Elliot is really the OG journalist because he was the editor-in-chief for XXL Magazine. We're not really journalists. I used to write for old people back in the day, but I'm not a journalist per se. Like journalists write for newspapers, magazines, things that I did. I guess it's changed in 2023 or going into 24. I would just say hip-hop personality. That's what I would say. I would say media personality. I don't think there is really any hip-hop journalism anymore. To be honest, I mean, I don't think- I don't think what Elliot does on rap radar is journalism. Right? Either. Well, go back to the definition of journalism, Taylor. Because Chris is absolutely right with what he's saying about journalism. What do they say the definition is? She just had it up, but she hates me, so she moves it as soon as I want to go. She does this on purpose. She does this on purpose. She does shit like this on purpose. Journalism. The activity, our profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, our news websites, are preparing news to be broadcast. Oh, yes. Technically, no one's a journalist. Like there are no hip-hop journalists. Like what are we talking about? I do think they have to update the definition though because now that people are moving away from newspapers, magazines, and things of that nature, it's- I do feel like what Jock does- Jock who? Is that how you say his name? Young Jock? He used to work with- No, he used to work with- Oh, I thought she was trying to catch you and what? Rob Markman. Oh, you talking about Jinx? No, no, no, no. His name's Jock. But he does like, he like reports facts. He does them like in these quick videos. That's hip-hop journalism. I think Jeff Weiss is a journalist. Well, he said that journalists are reporter is responsible for researching and writing informational news articles and stories about real events using a fair and unbiased perspective. There's a lot of people who do that and then they put it in a teleprompter and then they put it in video and then they upload it because people are not reading like we've been talking about. People listen to things, people watch things. So there are journalism, or there is journalism, it's just done differently. But it says that their duties include interviewing experts, gathering first-hand accounts of events and organizing and outlying into a cohesive, interesting story. So I mean, a lot of us personalities do aspects of journalism. If you're sitting down, I interview experts all the time in their respective fields. We sit down with artists and we get first-hand accounts of events. You also gotta remember there was a system in place for decades, right? Which was to be a journalist, you wrote for your high school newspaper and then you wrote for your college newspaper and then you went to journalism school and you were instructed in the rules and the ethics and the codes of conduct of being a journalist. And then from there, you started working at a small newspaper and then if you did well there, you would move up to a major city and then 10 years in, you'd land at the New York Times, right? Like that was the path. That path is destroyed right now. Do you think there's a level of, oh, go ahead ma'am. Oh, I was gonna say, because when I was in college, I took a journalism class and one of the biggest things that we constantly learned is that this is no longer gonna exist because of all the fake news that we were getting. Fake news and access. I mean, the scenario I just described, yes, it made people adhere to certain ethics, but there was a lot of gatekeeping. Everybody couldn't be a journalist, right? Like a lot of people were shut out and now you got a phone, you're a journalist. Is there a level of elitism that comes with that though? Like if you went to school there was, sure. And you were in a certain era. Not anymore. Now it's clout. Clout is annoying. Right. But no, in the day, sure. Like maybe you couldn't afford to go to college. Maybe you weren't able to get into grad school. Maybe you couldn't afford the prices they were paying at these newspapers. So yeah, there were only a select amount of people who got to quote, tell these stories. Now everybody can. And that's great. The problem is you could ask any of the so-called, this isn't just hip-hop, right? Like you could ask anybody online who has a voice and influence and say, well, what are, you know, you have a responsibility now. What are those tenants, the journalism? They don't, they have no idea. No idea. Would you say a journalist and a reporter is synonymous? Oh yeah. Cause they call journalists reporters. That's what the journalist is. They say a journalist is a reporter. Well, I think a reporter has even more duty to be independent and fair and to work sources. I feel like on ground. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I don't know what you call them. All I know is Kai's tonight is that guy. And man, you know, Elliot just showed a level of insecurity that I don't want any of our OGs to have. You can see it, man. There's so many of our OGs that reek of insecurity. They're not comfortable with who they are. They're not comfortable with their place, you know, in the current landscape. But that's because y'all keep looking at the landscape. And Nile, you said it earlier, running a race. Why are you running a race? And also, I say this. Life is a marathon. Elliot has real skills to share with people, right? Yes. Like, I did a real investigative journalism piece for the source on a guy named John Forte who probably nobody knows about anymore. Let's call us. Come on, that was John Forte. But he got arrested in a major cocaine distribution charge. Elliot was the editor-in-chief. I did real reporting. I was getting wiretaps. I was getting tapes. They asked me to testify in a federal cocaine trial. Like, it was real heavy-duty investigative reporting. Elliot can do that. He knows about that. He built that magazine. He's just got to stick to what he knows. To that point, why compete? Why compete? Because he probably thinks competing with ties and not. Why compete? Yeah, no, I agree with him. It's silly. But when's the last time you've read an investigative piece like that? I read them all the time. And I will do, I read them all the time. Those are the things that are turning into IP. You got places like The New Yorker and Variety. New Yorker, Variety, and somebody else I'm missing. But you have these people who are opening up production companies, because these journalists and reporters have done these in-vulture. That's what it is. Have done these in-depth stories, and they're turning them into documentaries. Y'all got to think bigger. Stop looking at the fucking nigganette and thinking, yo, man, I want to go viral. No, the stuff y'all doing, y'all can actually make real money off with IP. I think that's the message to Elliot, is just stop looking at the nigganette and think of your work more indefinitely. But I think he probably just feels unappreciated, because the shit that you're saying, that shit takes time. That takes time and effort. He's done it. He's done it. But niggas don't care about that, because like you said, niggas don't read. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's very good at it. A lot of these, there's a certain sector of people who don't read. We can't generalize everybody. What Elliot does is very valuable. And if Elliot did more of that, like I would love to see it. I think he don't get the praise for that type of work. People who are doing that work don't get the praise. By who? Who? When we say don't get the praise, by who? Who's the last journal? We couldn't even name a fucking journal. Megan Cooniff, I believe her name is, who covered it. Name a black journalist. She's a reporter though. That's the praise. All right, but people gave her praise. People followed her coverage. Name a black journalist that people praised. Let me tell you something. To go back to the point we just talked about. These people who are doing this real investigative journalism, something like a finding Tamika like Erica Alexander did and Color Farm Media did for Audible. Those are the people that are getting great deals to turn that content into TV, film. Somebody is gonna, it's probably gonna, it's probably gonna end up being Vlad. Salute to my God, Vlad. Y'all can hate on Vlad all y'all want. It's probably gonna end up being Vlad. The person from hip hop who's documenting all of these different stories. I mean, everything from China Mac to the Kiffy D shit and all of that. He already gets calls just like we all do. Anybody that has content. You know, you always get calls that license the content for documentaries and stuff. Somebody's gonna come to Vlad and say, hey, that China Mac thing you did. Man, we wanna turn that into a movie. Like that whole conversation you had with him, that is actual, say what you want. That's journalism. That's actual reporting. He's getting a firsthand count of events from people about their stories and their situations. Do not be surprised if Vlad TV does what the vote, what Vulture is doing, New Yorker. Somebody else I just named, who else did I just name? I can't remember. All of those people are taking their IP. They've started production companies and they're taking the IP from these investigative journalism stories that they did and they're turning them into TV and films and everything else. And these production companies is buying them. Go look at what ABC News is doing with documentaries, true crime documentaries and going to podcasts like I Heart and ABC News partnered on, what was the name of the podcast? I can't remember it right now. Bear or something. It was a true crime podcast, but ABC News came, took that true crime podcast and turned it into a documentary that's on Hulu right now. Don't be surprised if Vlad TV is the person that ends up happening for it because of the hip hop journalism that he's doing. But Vlad's doing it on a platform. In a way. Yeah, he's doing it in a way where he still gets clout from it and I think that's what Elliot is trying to do. It's frustrated. But that's what Elliot should be doing. Elliot should be doing that with rap radar when he's doing interviews, but he should be doing those in-depth sit-downs the way Vlad does for Vlad TV. I think you could also even just take some of his older work that he's done before, some of the prerecordings that he turns into clips, turn those into like TV shows or something. And nostalgia is always going to be it. Yo, you can't, Nala, you are so right because there's certain things that we will never be able to do. Somebody like Angie Martinez's catalogue is platinum. Triple platinum. Diamond, because she got interviews that nobody can ever get ever again. She sat with Tupac for hours and never put it up. She sat with biggy countless amounts of times. Like when you see- Pivotal moments. Pivotal fucking moments when R. Kelly gets pepper sprayed at the garden. They both go to Angie's show. She documented it in a book, but that's the kind of content and material that not only will be a book, it'll be a movie one day. It'll be a TV show. It'll be in a documentary. You just don't know, like go back and look at your catalogue. Instead of looking at what the brothers that are just starting, like why would I look at Casanade? And hey, Casanade is just getting started. I got 30 years of catalogue. I got 30 years of my own shit. Focus on that. That's why God don't be blessing a lot of people, man. God don't be blessing a lot of people because you don't appreciate what you've done and you don't appreciate where you are. And I'm not just talking about Elliot. I'm just talking about people in general. When you're looking at the next person and you're looking at somebody like a young person on the come up and you already trying to figure out ways to stop them, God is like, well, damn, what have I done for you? Your whole life. Now you don't care about that no more. You feel insignificant because- Someone else- Somebody else is moving now. So you're not even taking into account, you're still here. You're still in the space and you got what that young man can only dream of which is 20, 30 years of catalogue? 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Blue chew wants to help you have better sex. Discover your options at bluechew.com, chew it and do it. Let's get back to the show. Alex Media, Alex y'all had academics on Flagrant too? Yeah, did you hear it? Alex wanted me to talk about this and he wanted me to talk about Elliot Wilson. Why you friend? I gave him what he wanted. It's crazy. I give you what you want, Alex. So we didn't speak about it and say you had some choice. We did, I mean, I had some thoughts. All right, what are your thoughts? I'm curious just to hear what's- About what though, about what part in particular? Not just in general, because you came up during the interview. I'm honestly just happy to be in the conversation. Meaning that, you know, first of all, always salute my guys, salute to you, salute Schultz, you know, Akash, Mark, everybody for holding it down for me but you can only hold it down with facts, which you did. But I would say that I'm just happy to be in the conversation. You'll never hear me say I'm the greatest anything of all time, you know? And you'll never hear me say I'm the greatest radio personality of all time just because I have too much respect for the OGs that came before me and I genuinely don't feel like that. I'm just happy to have put in the kind of work and, you know, created the kind of content that has me in the conversation. If you ask me who my favorite radio personalities of all time are, I'm gonna tell you, P.D. Green, I've always told y'all that. Y'all should go watch his movie, talk to me, cause you know Akash, I heard Akash say that Howard Stern had a New York Times best-selling book that didn't turn into a movie. What other radio personality had that? P.D. Green. And it's a fantastic book, you know? A fantastic movie, talk to me. It starts Don Cheadle as P.D. Green, Taraji P. Henson is in it. It's a great movie and you'll see why I say P.D. Green is my favorite radio personality of all time. P.D. Green also had a cable access show. If I'm not mistaken, the first time Howard Stern was ever on TV, it was on P.D. Green's show. My other favorite radio personality of all time, Howard Stern, it's not even close. So for me, it's P.D. Green, Howard Stern, Wendy Williams, Wendy Williams was one of my favorite radio personalities before her and her husband scooped me up from South Carolina and had me as her co-host. So other than that, I gotta say Tom Joyner. People don't talk about Tom Joyner the way that they should, but when it comes to being a public service, when it comes to being a public service, P.D. Green, Tom Joyner, the best of the best, but P.D. Green was also what some would consider a shock job, you know what I mean? Even though I feel you feel the things he was saying weren't shocking, he was just speaking the truth. And then I put Angie Martinez. So that's mine. Those are my personal all time favorite radio personalities. Can we get more context to what was said on the pod? I'm sorry, because I want to know who. Now we're talking about Howard Stern, Wendy, and Charlotte. No, he said someone came on my show and said. Oh, yeah, he was saying, people try to do that with shows, but if y'all know me, I love throwing assists. Like Andrew Schultz, I knew who Andrew was 10 years ago. We've been doing brilliant idiots for 10 years. You know what I'm saying? I knew who Andrew Schultz was 10 years ago. When Chris Moreau, who's sitting right there, came to me and told me I need to start a podcast. And I told Chris why I do more than radio. Why would I want to start a podcast? He was like, man, you need to get in on podcasting. Podcasting is going to be the future. He was absolutely right. I'm glad I listened to him. Andrew Schultz was who I knew I wanted to start a podcast with. Like, you know, Duvall is all the way in Atlanta. Atlanta, Andrew right here in New York. I'm like, we have great conversations. He funny as fuck, smart as fuck. Andrew was doing exactly what I knew he would be doing 10 years ago. Y'all just catching up to the greatness of Andrew Schultz. So- Can I tell another piece of that story? Sure. So you were like, check out Schultz. I went to see him. It was at a bar. It was like the New York comedy festival. And he was on a panel with another famous personality. I won't say who. And Schultz killed it. He was easily the dominant voice, the funniest, everything. And I was like, yo, this dude's fucking insane. He's incredible. And so afterwards, I think you had told him I was coming. I grabbed him. I went to the bar with him. I was like, look, we want to do a podcast. You want to do it with Shar? And he's like, yeah, fuck it, let's go. That was it. Wow. There were other people that we were thinking about that when I approached them, well, why would we want to do that? Can we talk about? Fuck it, let's do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two-second conversation. People get lost about that. And listen, I hope that everybody that's around me in some way shape or form, from the Nile's to the Schultz's to whoever it may be, I hope that y'all all at some point look at me and say, he's the lacking. That's how big I want every single one of y'all to get. But I do. That's the point. I love what Schultz. But you don't understand that if you're not a person who don't though assists. You don't understand that if you're not a person who when you build things, you're only thinking of yourself. What do I always tell y'all? If what you build only benefits you, it's not big enough, period. You say that and also what you recently said to me is like, well, what's your intent behind it? That's right. Damn, so that is now like my word for 2024. One of them is intent. Everything has to be like intentional. But what Schultz said with like you being the greatest, I don't think it's something that could be like self-proclaimed. Like you have to let others get it. I would never say that. Yeah, you got to. That's why like my nickname for you is see the goat. I feel like you should change your name and see the God to see the goat. And I feel like you're a goat to me as well. But yeah, it would be lame of you to be like, yo, I'm the greatest personality. Cause then you look like, you look silly. Then you look like them. You look dumb. You just do the work, put your head down and do the work. One other thing, Axe said that that was interesting. Axe was saying, cause he kept referencing television. Yeah. And he was saying that, you know, Wendy Williams was able to take her radio audience, the TV, and Howard was able to take his radio audience to serious. I mean, which makes sense. Cause Howard Stern took his radio show to a radio station, a radio platform. It just happened to be a radio platform that was satellite radio. So yeah, people would follow him. I think people use their voices in different ways. You know, if your thing is television, if you want to say, hey man, people don't follow Charlemagne from radio to TV, it might be some truth to that. I think it's different demos though. Cause I've been with you on all your platforms and it's a different demographic every time. Like your late night show demo is different than your breakfast club. Absolutely. Your brilliant idiots demo is completely different than both of those demos. So I don't even think that's a fair statement. Absolutely. And even as a content creator, my YouTube demo is completely different from my Instagram demo, which is completely different to the people who listen to me on Sunday night. Like, so that's not true. What y'all was saying was absolutely true, but I would correct y'all on one thing. Breakfast club didn't start on YouTube. Breakfast club started on power1051fm.com. So people had to go to power1051fm.com to get that content. All of those early interviews that people love, like the first Kanye interview, the Dame Dash interview, anything prior to 2016, breakfast club didn't get on YouTube till 2016. So from 2010 to 2016, all of that breakfast club content was on the.com. So people had to go to the.com to actually watch the interviews. Yo, Andrew, if somebody said it, it's like, yo, say what you want about breakfast club when it comes to hip hop media and taking that content and being consistent and putting it out every single day. That's it. We were 100% doing that. And I think we made that point of saying you took terrestrial radio to the internet, which I don't think I didn't see any other radio station doing that. That's a fact. I mean, that was our whole thing. When I was doing radio in Philly and radio in South Carolina, I was always putting stuff up online. Like a lot of my first national looks was because I was posting stuff online. Yee used to do that when she was on Shade 45. Envy would do that when he was on Serious Satellite Radio and on Hot 97. So it's like, when we came together, we all do, we got to utilize the internet in order to get our content out there. And so that's why people started going to the.com. And then we started putting content on YouTube. That's why we're doing a Breakfast Club documentary. The documentary is coming. You know, it's being, it's active. It's in motion. So when we do the documentary. Who's gonna play? No, it's a documentary. Oh, okay. So it's actual. But if there's a movie, who's gonna play? I mean. Don't say another fucking movie. Morris Chestnut Beach is too old to play me. You know, you play me. But he could. Continue on with your point about it. My thing is, you know what I was saying? My thing is that we were putting it on the.com. Damn, I lost my train of thought. We were putting it on the.com. And then it eventually, you know, went to YouTube. He lost his train of thought. But all of this will be told on thing about movement, right? I use my voice to move people for different things. I think people sometimes forget. Television is just another thing that I do. We do breakfast club. We've been doing brilliant idiots for 10 years. I chose, I want to do a network. Black Effect podcast network. You can go buy this hat right now on Black Effect. Oh, blackeffect.com, it's Black Effect hat and Mitchell and Ness, you know what I mean? Yeah, blackeffect.com. The merch is available. Mitchell and Ness, Black Effect hat. But I wanted to start a podcast network. We got 28 shows under the podcast network. Black Effect is at a billion downloads right now. We're doing great with the podcast network. SBA productions with Audible, Finding Tameka, Summer of 85, Unleashed for Love, Broke Down Profits, Plenty More to Come, Books. You know what I mean? Not just my own books. Tameka Mallory, Anita Kopeck, Doug Melville with a lot more to come. When y'all, I got a lot of different stuff down the pipeline. I use my voice to move people in different ways. What we talked about earlier, what we talked about, you know, when you get to a certain position, you know, you have to use your voice to be of service. I chose to talk about my mental health journey and move people towards going to therapy, you know, finding healing. So using your voice to move your audience just to another platform to benefit you, that's not the only way to use your voice. Yeah, even the doctor I went to was like, ever since Charlie and me started talking about this, more people have came in and asked to get- Dr. Puma? Yeah, I was like, damn, I had to- Choose to go! Before I talked about things like this. The doctor that we talked about, Soarin, Soarin Medical, you know, that's where we went to go get our CT scans for our hearts. Yeah, he's had an influx in business. But my point is, that's how you use your voice. I understand what Ak was saying, but that's not the only measure, just saying, hey, I did a radio, so now I go do TV. I use my voice to move a lot of different things- Also we're in a different climate. Like different platforms don't hold as much weight as they do then. 100%. Like podcasts hold way more weight than a TV show right now. Depends what the show is. Cause there's still some TV shows that hold a lot of weight. But you know, like, yeah, to your point, to your point, yeah. I mean, you know, there's not too many big, who's, I can't think of a platform in media. Well, I can't think of a show on TV that has a bigger reach than Joe Rogan, maybe. Reality TV shows do well. But even reality TV shows, they're like its own universe, like Bravo. Absolutely. Anything else, Alex, from this conversation? Nah, that was it. Come on, man, I gotta go. Alex, peace my guy. Safe travels, happy holiday. I truly just appreciate being in the conversation. If that's the debate, if the debate is, who's the greatest radio personality of all time? And as people talk about me, Howard, and Wendy, I appreciate it. Thank you, you know? I'ma keep working. Look at that. I'm in the Radio Hall of Fame. We all know how it is too, how it is Wendy is too. And it's crazy cause I did Wendy's acceptance speech. I think it was 2006. I introduced her when she got inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. And I remember just sitting there thinking, I'ma be in the Radio Hall of Fame one day too. And guess what? I'm in the Radio Hall of Fame. All praises due to God. Yeah, this is bad, man. Bad. What's that? Pull up the video, Taylor. It's not bad. It's just like, I understand what Taraji coming from. So the Taraji P. Henson, she broke down crying in the middle of an interview and discussing her financial situation and pay she received as an accomplished actor, to math aim, math aim. Every time I negotiate, it's like I'm starting from the bottom. Can you find that, Taylor? That's ridiculous. Taraji, you had the audacity to just say you're thinking about stopping acting. We said, stop talking. Are you thinking about it? I'm just tired of working so hard, being gracious at what I do, getting paid a fraction of the cost. I'm tired of hearing my sister say the same thing over and over. You get tired. I hear people go, you work a lot. Well, have to. The math ain't mathin'. And when you start working a lot, you know, you have a team. Big bills come with what we do. We don't do this alone. The fact that we're up is a whole entire team behind us. They have to get paid. Yeah, you're not gonna appreciate that if you look at it through the lens of celebrity. Cause the first thing you're gonna say is, $10 million, like she's crying over, but no, that is anybody who's working. Everybody feels underappreciated. People feel underpaid, especially if you constantly working, working, working, working. Cause what she does is very exhausting. You think it's not? It's not like she gets a bi-weekly check. So even out of that, that's like a large lump sum that she has to get off of and figure out how to make ends meet every month. And those assistants and those lawyers and those managers and agents and everybody else, they get paid whether you working or not. So you got to find a way to, you know, keep that income coming. So I get it. I mean, all she's basically saying is she's overworked and underpaid. Who can't relate to that? Yeah. You know what I mean? Look at Taylor. Taylor about to cry now. I am. It's sad. No. It is sad. You know, and then you overworked, underpaid, you don't necessarily feel appreciated. So I get it. I get it. And I mean, you know, we can shower Taraji with all the love in the world. That ain't gonna change the thing. That ain't gonna change the fact that she's overworked and underpaid, you know? So salute to Taraji P. Henson, man. That is, yeah. That's sad. What else we got to tell her again? Fine. I better know. We need Black Hollywood. I don't know. Well, you wanted to talk about what you're talking about. Because if we are doing our own things and we support our own shit, our dollar. Not really. You think that, yeah. I don't think that's necessarily true. We say that shit, but a lot of these motherfuckers just gonna get in position and do the same thing that these corporate people are doing now. That's why y'all, listen, y'all can say what y'all want about Tyler Perry. I bet you, I didn't see the whole interview, but I bet you if they had a conversation with Taraji and after who gave her her biggest check, Tyler got Dan Perry, because, and you know, for anybody out there in Hollywood, y'all can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but there's this thing called a precedent. And basically when somebody pays you something for a film, that is your precedent. That's what you go and you negotiate with. So if Tyler says, hey, Taraji, I'm gonna give you four or $5 million for a film, now her precedent is set, that's what she negotiates with from here on out. And I think if I'm not mistaken, I've heard Taraji say that before. I definitely know that happened with Tiffany Hattish. Taraji said the biggest checks she ever got, I believe was from Tyler Perry. So to your point, Nali, yeah, you do need- Like we value each other. But we have to value each other. You can't just be the blackface in that position who's still underpaying people. You know what I mean? Overworking and underpaying people. You still gotta, you just have to, like you said, you gotta value folks. Like it don't matter being in a position if you're not gonna value the person. So if the movie hits number one, they don't get any of that, it only goes to the right. It depends on what kind of contract you got. You know what I mean? You might get a bonus for the movie hitting number one. You might have some equity in the film. It just depends, like get out was a film where people in get out had equity. And that's because Jordan Peele didn't have- Because even when they're up front. The budget, to pay everybody. Because even when it plays on, I think on HBO now, like they don't get a check for- They get residuals but nothing crazy. But it just depends, like it really truly depends on what your role is on a film. Like if you're an EP, or like I said, if you help finance the film in somewhere, you have some type of, maybe even sweat equity in it. Like it just depends on what your role is. If you just a talent, nine times out of 10, you might get some residuals, but that shit ain't nothing crazy. You know? You can't just be telling, man. This is what the whole script is about. This is literally what the whole script is about. I love it, because does TV shows make it, like would an actor rather be part of a TV show than a movie? Depending what the show is. If you wanna show like a Seinfeld, or Friends, or one of those shows that was on for a long time, and then it gets picked up in syndication, you know, like those guys don't never gotta work, Seinfeld don't never have to work another day in his life. Nobody, the cast of Seinfeld, probably don't have to work another day. But that's what I, I guess I'm getting confused cause how much did it get paid up front then? What do you mean? Cause when you're talking about Taraji getting paid like, she has what did you call it a- But some people get residuals, and some people don't get residuals. So it really just depends on what's in your contract. Yeah. Well, fix the contract. Yes. It's just all about how you negotiate, man. I don't know, but also too is just like, not even just how you negotiate. I think what Taraji is talking to too is, you know, the largest social issue of, you know, women being underpaid. You know, women being underpaid for doing the same amount of work that a man does. Yeah, that Benjamin Button film that she was in, one of the largest grossing films. And she like got paid a quarter of what her co-host got. She crazy, man. And time's just hard for everybody. You know, like nobody wants extra bills. That's why Anthony Edwards wants an abortion. Let's click on this, what is it Taylor? What happened? I don't even know the story. I'm just looking at the headline. Anthony Edwards addresses women's abortion claim. So basically he was cheating on his girl. Black men don't cheat. All right. So he was cheating on his girl. Let me go back. Anthony, that's a funny headline. This is his girl. See, this is when neighborhood talking shit is funny. Go back to it. Let me read the headline. Anthony Edwards issues apology for telling his little side piece to get an abortion. You always say it like that. All women should be empowered to make their own decisions. So this is his girl. Beautiful. Beautiful black queen. She's already pregnant. He, she's on her way, this woman. What's she doing? Yo, why is he always cheating when a girl is pregnant? I don't, that's disrespectful as hell. That is the worst time possible. Well. What the hell are you talking about? What the hell are you talking about? Ew. That's not even funny. I just did that to piss the room off. Come on, stop. You think I don't know how y'all's gonna react to that? Stop. Man. You're so annoying. Okay, so these are the, this is his statement. But that's why women gotta say we pregnant. Because if you pregnant by a man and you know, you're not in the mood to have sex and things like that, even though pregnancy sex is amazing. If you're not in the mood to have sex and stuff like that, you gotta tell your man, we pregnant. So whatever I'm not doing, you're not doing. That ain't no tall pass just cause a woman is pregnant. It isn't, that's why. It's, it's absolutely, it's the opposite, you're right. We in this together. Yeah, exactly. That's why you're supposed to have that belt too. Like whenever I feel contractions, you feel it too. But men, but men have to think about that though. Men can't think, damn, what I'm gonna do for the next nine months, y'all, y'all, y'all. That's a fact, a lot of, I'm not gonna generalize all men, but a lot of motherfuckers ain't thinkin'. So what's the story? He, he, he, I mean, he had a moment that I'm not in line with what I believe and who I want to be as a man. All women should be supported and empowered to make their own decisions about their bodies and what is best for them. I am handling my personal matters privately and will not be commenting on them any further, at any further time. I mean, I don't see a problem. I mean, so basically he was telling her to not get the abortion. I mean, sorry. He was telling her to get the abortion and... She was saying it's difficult because Roe B. Wade got overturned. What? What? That's not what happened. Wait, what? What happened? Bring up the Texas. Hold on. Steve Nays missed something, brother. I mean, what's the problem though? Like what did he do? He wanted a side piece to get an abortion. That's why I always tell people who are anti, you know, abortion, you ain't never got the wrong person pregnant. That's really all important. Pretty much. Everybody always disagrees with abortion until they married and they get, you know, somebody on the side pregnant. You got, let me see. Hell nah, I can't do this. I still have an appointment on the 27th. He's saying get an abortion, LOL. He handed that wrong. Not LOL. Good, exactly. Not in the text message either. I still have an appointment on the 27th. Hell nah, I can't do this. So now what? She said, what a great response. Get an abortion, LOL. Honestly, I had an abortion with my son around two years ago and I regretted every day, huh? As in like, she don't want to get another abortion. Man, you can't force a kid in the world. You don't know what it is yet. That's not the point. I said I had an abortion two years ago and I regret it. Yeah, but I don't want a kid. Just take the pills. You don't care about knowing, but you got the money. When I say you got the money, what's the whole up? Cause now you finna make a problem. How do we know this is him? Well, he did apologize for you, right? Finna make a problem, exactly. I don't give a fuck. I've been diced this whole time. I don't bother you. I don't call the problems nothing. Don't speak to me like that. I told you I would because you want me to. So that's that. You talking about a life, just be something. I don't know. Here's the thing, man. He handled this all wrong. A woman call you, say she's pregnant. All you should say is, so what do you want to do? Exactly. That's it. But at the end of the day too, I feel like it's both people's responsibility. Like, why are y'all having sex unprotected? Or why are you not having a backup plan? Cause raw sex feels amazing. But still, it's always gonna be some type of... I mean, yes. Every time you lay down with a person that's the consequences. You might get somebody pregnant or an STD. Right. But I'm just saying it's both of us. Why sex trumps all of that? It does. And y'all know it. Because the reality of the situation is, no, you haven't. The reality of the situation is, we know these consequences every time we lie down, but we still choose to do it. Why? Because it feels that good. Well, also... Now you know why I crack. It's crack. Don't try to do that. We're not there no more. Let it go. We are not there anymore. OK, but, yeah, so that's the whole thing. That's a golden line. So what's the outrage about it? Anything? Stephen A basically was like, she shouldn't have shared private text messages. That was like his whole point. Well, shit, I don't want to see half the shit y'all show all the time, but yes, I agree. Stephen A's 76 years old. Let's hear this. 76? No, you're not that old. But he had to apologize because he is a public figure. Having said that once again, here's the bigger lesson to be learned. Guard who you deal with. Once again, I'm singing that same old dance. It's none of our damn business. Who Anthony Davis is screwing around with? Who he impregnated? He has a relationship with this woman, and she put him on blast. She took text messages and revealed them to the public. I'm starting to wonder what repercussions somebody can have for having their privacy violated. That's what I'm wondering about. I'm not casting any disperges. We live in a society, ladies and gentlemen, if Anthony Davis wanted her to have an abortion, respectfully, that's his business. We have pro-choice, and we have pro-lifers all over the country. And I keep saying, Anthony Davis, I apologize. I mean, Anthony Edwards, I'm sorry. Got a girlfriend, got a girlfriend swinging on him right now. We're not talking about Anthony Edwards, for the men of the Temple Wolves. Who I really get to talk about. Who I would have loved to talk about involving basketball. But we got to talk about this because she violated their private affairs. She is a woman. She is free to do what she want with her own body. This is America. She's impregnated, and she wants to have the child. That is her business. If Anthony Edwards does not want her to have the child, that is his business. There's no laws he's violating because he wouldn't want the child. There are pro-lifers and pro-choice folks all over this country. Just like we saw a million celebrating when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade a couple of years back. So basically he's saying it's none of our business. We saw a million is lamenting it. OK. She shouldn't have showed the text, but he also shouldn't have texted that. He also shouldn't. But I wouldn't have known if she didn't show the text. $100,000 is crazy for an abortion. I don't like this headline because it's not $100,000 for an abortion. It's $350 for an abortion. I don't know how much they cost now. $250,000 for an abortion? I mean, $350 for an abortion. And $999,650 for her pocket. That's what that is. Because abortion costs no $100,000. Stephen A. Smith isn't wrong, but he's not being realistic. And the reason he's not being realistic is he's got to understand the era that we're in. Everything Stephen A. is saying is absolutely correct. It is none of our damn business. I wish people didn't share this type of shit, but they do. And they will continue to because that's the era that we're in. Well, maybe he's trying to shame so that people stop. No, I think what people need to stop is sneaking around. What people need to stop doing is thinking that they're getting away with things. You got a woman at home. Exactly. Black men don't cheat. Black men don't cheat. People not even mad about him cheating. They mad about the girl being pregnant. But my point is that wouldn't happen if he didn't cheat. Yeah, yeah, you're right. That's all I'm simply saying. Like, and I get it. I understand how biology and shit works. I get it, you know what I mean? But my thing is simply this. You also know the world that we're in and you know who you are. Anthony Edwards, you know who you are. You're not these regular, regular motherfuckers. You are a superstar basketball player for the Minnesota Timberwolves. You know how much is on the line. You know what you're- Yeah, he's young, too. Isn't he like- Yeah, but so what? We got to stop using that young thing as an excuse because there's so many NBA players that have also been young who did not make those same mistakes. LeBron James should be your ball, King. For all you motherfuckers that still like to scream that young shit, LeBron James should be your bar. Do you know how many basketball players came from high school to the league who didn't have those problems? The Kevin Garnets? Dwight. Who? Dwight Howard came from- Terrible example. Terrible example. Terrible example. You didn't have him young. He's only- Terrible example. Terrible example. All right, perfect. Kevin Garnet, Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant. I mean, Kobe had his issue once he was in the league, but from that time when he first started, 18, however- Oh, yeah. He wasn't getting no trouble. You know what I mean? Everybody just has to discipline themselves more. Seth Curry. You know what's at stake. You know what's at stake. Saying people are young, that shit don't fly because you ain't young enough to take that $100 million check. Yeah. You know? Salute to Nicki Minaj, too, man. Nicki Minaj sold 220,000 records. She hasn't put out her album in five years. She's breaking all kinds of records on the Billboard charts. I think that's very impressive. Nicki wanted it once. Like, there's about- There's five people who came from that era who we put up there. And it's Drake, of course. It's Kendrick, of course. It's Cole, of course. It's Future, of course. And it's Nicki Minaj. And, you know, Nicki's still wanting it once. You know what I mean? Five years. She ain't put out her album in five years. The Bobs came through. 220,000 copies sold. You know, toward, I'd say, 228,000. Number one album in the country. Well, I think she's the woman with the most number one albums ever. Or something like that. So, salute to Nicki. You know? And salute to the good brother, Scarface, too, man. Scarface's NPR Tiny Desk Concert. You know, people are saying that's the best hip hop Tiny Desk ever. I tell you what, I ain't never watched Tiny Desk before, Scarface. Really? No. And I watched it the other night and I went down to Rabbit Hole. I watched Wu-Tang. I watched- That's the best. It's Wu-Tang, that's great. You watched the Juvenile one. You did. I never watched it in full. I had Juvenile. Did I? We did it, yes. Oh, I might have- Okay, okay. You're right. Oh, you're right. I did watch Juvenile. I'm bugging. But I salute Scarface just because I got Scarface in my top five, y'all. I tell y'all all the time, I got the top seven favorite MCs of all time. And it's Nas, Jay-Z, and it's not in no order. Nas, Jay-Z, Ghostface, Scarface. T.I. Killer Mike, T.I., Jeezy. That's my top seven of all time. So when I see face getting his flowers, I'm like, yeah, face one of them ones. Face provided the soundtrack to my life growing up. You know what I mean? Like, and the illest thing about Scarface that I love the most, he's nothing like his music. You know how Scarface music is like, dark. And he's like always telling a story and it's like always like a cautionary tale. Scarface is the most fun loving, happy, unserious, wanting to crack jokes all the time person you ever gonna meet. And that makes me love that man even more, man. So salute to Brad Jordan, man. I really wish Scarface and Willie D would, you know, get on better terms and start doing the Ghetto Boys Reloaded podcast. You know, we had the Ghetto Boys Reloaded podcast on the Black Effect I Heart Radio podcast network. It was a fantastic podcast. You know, the last episode they did together was Willie D addressing his issues with Face because Face did the Grammy celebration without him and they haven't done one together since but I really wish that, you know, they could put that behind them and get back to doing the podcast because they were, not only are they amazing storytellers, you know, people get on there with Face and Willie D and they say things they don't say other places so salute to them. Meek Mill celebrated the passing of Pennsylvania's Probation Reform Bill. Salute to Meek. I also have to say D won my guy, salute to D won. D won the criticism you had of Meek and you know Ross and others. It's moments like this that I wish you were just, it's a lot about my brother, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, this is real world change. When we were talking about all podcasts, real world change. Go back to the headline, Taylor. Go back to the Meek Mill headline, please. Taylor hates me. Taylor hates me. She just hates me. She hates me. She gotta hate me. She gotta hate me. There's no way, there's no way you did that on purpose. You gotta hate me. It's impossible. It's impossible. See? Okay, Meek Mill celebrated the passing of Pennsylvania's Probation Reform Bill. What is that? What did that say? SB 838. The bill allows criminal records in Pennsylvania to be sealed from public view and allows fewer people on probation are in county jails. The house and senate passed the legislation. The new probation law aims to limit the length of probation and prevent people from being sent back to jail for minor violations. Reports also state Pennsylvania has one of the highest rates of residents who are incarcerated under supervision during the press conference. Meek became emotional. Let's listen to the press conference, man. Drop tears, but I wanna say this because there's a lot of young men that follow me in the street and they don't really know what I go through to like even be in these places with government officials. They even changed my life to go on the stage and be able to speak for a lot of people. I didn't ask for the position. I don't wanna do it. I'm not for clout. It's something that I stand for. It's something that I live for and I appreciate y'all for helping. Walo back there. Walo, come over here, Walo. I wanna use my man as another example because he's somebody else that came from Greatest Fort. And he just was posting videos with his motivational quotes. And I used to just post Walo because when we really got people who would come from, that come from those environments and can change up and still hold the weight. I could be in the wrong way. It don't matter if it's people from my neighborhood or if it's people like Michael Rubin or it's people like the governor and still be myself and still contribute to my neighborhood. So I just wanted to get that out and just let that out because I've never really seen much and changing the law today would really like help a lot of young men. I had a lot of friends died. Philadelphia, Gula Jeff and I'm here to represent for them today. I can't even really use my voice. Thank y'all. Man, salute the fucking Meek Mill. Man, that's what I'm talking about. That is what I'm talking about. That is using your platform for real world change and not only just using your platform, using your experiences, the things that you've been through. Like Meek was on probation for mad long, ended up going to jail for popping a wheelie that ended up being a violation of probation. And so he decided to turn his trauma into a testimony that has now turned into legislation. Like Meek said, like yo, he didn't ask to be in that position, but guess what? God does not call the qualified. He qualifies the called. So y'all can say whatever y'all want about Meek Mill and y'all can say Meek raps about this, Meek raps about that. Amen, maybe we say God works mysterious ways. I don't know. He's using that platform to be able to help pass legislation. And that's going to help a lot of other brothers, man. And we also got to be patient with our people because you just don't know what people are going to turn out to be. If I had told y'all 10 years ago, Meek Mill would be helping to get legislation passed in Pennsylvania for probation reform. Would anybody have believed me? If you would have told me 10 years ago that you would be this version of yourself right now, I wouldn't believe you. First of all, you're so disrespectful. I don't know why. I don't know why. That was mad sauce for you. For no reason. Why, why, why? I just ran into a shot. It has nothing to do with it. I'm just saying it came a long way. But that's my point. Yo, I talk about stuff like that all the time because I, I know T.I. 20 years ago. I know, I know that version of T.I. To the version of T.I. we see now. I know Gucci man 20 years ago coming into the radio station, terrifying the fuck out of me. Like I can just look at, I'm looking at this man, I just know. Something ain't right, right? Now look at the version of Gucci now. I know G-Z from 20 years ago. You don't know who people are going to turn out to be be patient with folks. Man, I don't give a fuck how old they are, what they doing, everybody's life, everybody's testimony can be turned into something like that, man. And to see Meek up there crying tears of joy, but also tears of grief. Cause I'm sure in that moment every single wave of emotion hit him. He probably started thinking about all his homies that died. He probably started, cause he told the story about how he used to have to take the chance of violating probation just to take his son to school. Cause I think he had to cross state lines or something like that. Like, come on man, Meek deserves all his flowers for that. Salute to Meek. And I love D1. What D1's message isn't wrong. All I'm simply saying is, yo, D1 when you see stuff like this, you got to amplify it because this is the power of hip hop. Like this is the power of people using their voices. This is the kind of influence that people like Meek Mill and them have, man. So salute to that brother, Meek. So salute to anybody with a platform that's using their platform, you know, to be of service. This annoyed me. Let's go to Ask an Idiot's, Taylor. Can we go to Ask an Idiot's? This is sweet. Okay. Taylor just hates me. Yo. Hates me. I'm making sure you see, you know what I'm talking about, your boy? Oh, let me do some elevate. I, no, I actually do not cause that is not my boy. Do you want to do, can we do elevate? Yeah. Let's do elevate. And then we do some Ask an Idiot's and then we get the fuck on. Salute to my guy, Steve Harvey, man. Big up, you know, one of my mentors, somebody that I get a lot of great advice from, man. There's nobody out here, you know, doing business quite like Steve Harvey is, man. So I'm here to tell you about another one of Steve Harvey's business ventures which is something that's been keeping Steve feeling fresh, keeping me feeling fresh, healthy and energized lately. It's called Elevate You Vitality Daily Greens. Co-founded by Steve Harvey and formulated by Harvard scientists. This game-changing formula boosts your body's mitochondrial production, providing you with sustained energy throughout the day. No more relying on coffee or unhealthy energy drinks to get you going. 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Take control of your health today and experience more daily energy with Elevate You, Vitality Daily Greens. Go to ElevateYou.com, L-E-V-A-T-E-E-Y-O-U.com and use promo code IDIOTS for 15% off your entire purchase. Let's get back to the show. Taylor, let's do some asking IDIOTS, Taylor. Come on, Taylor. Wait, before we do ask IDIOTS, can I say that I had called the Brilliant IDIOTS fan-based misogynistic at one point on this podcast I was on and I just wanted to apologize because misogynistic was the wrong word. I should have said chauvinistic. And it's not everybody, but sometimes you guys can give that feeling. And that's just based off the comments. I don't even know why you said that. All you're doing is making the Brilliant IDIOTS massive mobilize against you right now. No, I don't want them to. That's why I'm apologizing. They don't care. They do not care. They are not here for your apologies. They are not here to be entertained by you in any way, shape, or form. They have already made up their mind. What do you mean they have? They're going to listen to this podcast and maybe even enjoy it and still throw shots at you just because that's the way the world works. Nyla, you know this already. I hate people. You think just because you made complex list of what was it, most powerful people in hip hop, what was it? Media. Media? You think because you made that list, they're going to be, you know, give you grace. I would like grace. I thought that was the whole point of the conversation. You think because you have started one of the hottest, you know, parties in the city, which isn't even really a party. It's a networking event called Pasta Aux Live. You think people are going to give you grace? They should. You think because you had your Amazon rotation round table show and because you got your blends and trends show on Power 105, one they're supposed to give you grace? Don't forget I'm also on the breakfast club every Friday. That's right. And guess what? You still suck to them. And you're going to always suck to them because they've made up their mind. Here's what it is. There's nothing you can do. I do, I do, I do see people say differently though. They'd be like, Nila, Nila, cool. I like Nila. I think that's what they should say because I am. Why are you worried about their opinions? I'm not, I'm just apologizing. If I offended anybody, that's it, I'm sorry. Nevermind. I mean, I'm sure we do have some misogynistic. Listen, there's not all of them, no? You know, misogynistic means like prejudice against women. See, I had to look up the word misogynistic. I was getting it confused. That's y'all problem. Motherfuckers just be using words and don't even know the meaning. But it was close, it was close. Because I feel like misogynistic and chauvinistic could be synonyms. One's just a little more extreme. Okay, I get it. Asking an idiot, sockin.mp4 says, if you were an elf, what would your, what would your name be? Interesting. What elves have unique names? You're only the size of one, so. Tell it. Wow, that was wild of you to say. For no reason. Because he does it to me all the time. All right, well pull up Penguin names and let's see what name Taylor would choose. I love Penguin. I don't give a fuck. You are a penguin. I'll be Happy Feet. Ooh, that's a good one. Happy Feet. You do get Penguin energy though. What would your name be? What's that supposed to mean? What's that supposed to mean? Oh. I had to look up some. What's some elf names? Enspore. Honeydorn. Bernard. That's good for you. Yeah, I'm Lenard. It's close to, yeah, yeah, yeah. Buddy. Dobby. Yeah, Buddy. That's a famous elf name from the movie Elf. Dobby from Harry Potter. Oh, Dobby, I like that. I would, yeah, I'd probably just be Lenard. I think Lenard is a nice little elf cool elf name. Lenny. I bet Lenny is more of an elf name. Nard. That's what it would be, Nard. That's what it would be, Nard. Shiny Up-a-tree. Nard. That's Santa's number one elf. I'm gonna go with Nard. Nardo. You said yours would be Laura Taylor, would you say? Frightening. What? What would yours be, Nard? I like Happy Feet. That was a good one. Happy Feet, eh. Not the way she got beat by Schultz in that race. Nothing happy about those feet. Sad Feet. Frustrated Feet. We still have to re-race, though. No, you don't. Levi. Levi. Elf Army. Comes from the Elf Army. Spandex. Could I be a good name for you? Could I'm thicker than you in spandex? Oh, God. What else we got, Taylor? What else you got? I'm not answering that question. What was your most memorable gift received for the holidays? I don't want no gifts for the holidays. Like, there's literally nothing I want. Like, nothing. Like, absolutely nothing. It'd be hard to think of a gift to give you. So I could cancel with my mom. Listen, your mom gives me... Yeah. No. Yeah, he said... Listen to me. What your mom gives me is amazing. And she already knows what I want. That's not a gift. I need y'all to put context in this conversation. That's a love offering. No, what... He was my dad to punch me in his mouth. You couldn't. Because without... No, I know y'all so I know what you're talking about, but this conversation's not for me. He was my dad to punch me in his mouth. What Taylor's mom's giving me is not a gift, it's a love offering. My nigga stopped playing with me. It is. Would you call your momma's pie a gift? Even pie doesn't sound good. A pie that she bakes like apple pie and sweet potato pie. Whatever it is, I just said your momma pie, yes. Food, gazzam, for sure. And I love it when she cuts it for me. And it's already a neat slices. Between food, gazzam, pie. When your mom cuts it into like a perfect beat. First of all, stop. She never cut a slice for you. She hasn't. She did at the radio station one day. She cut it, I mean it was the perfect beat. It was me then. No, I saw her cut it. No, she didn't. She even had the spatula, she cut it and then she pulled it up and she said, come here, baby. No, she didn't. She said, come here, Shawla. She would never disrespect her husband. She said, Shawla, I didn't say she, what, what, why? Why is why cutting a piece of pie? And she said, come here, like, I wish she would. She's an older woman, they'll call every person, baby. Excuse me, excuse me. Relax, relax. Older women don't call people, baby. Yes. But not my mom. She did call me baby. Your mom ain't never called me baby, Taylor. No, she didn't. No, she didn't. Wow. You got confused with mama. Wow. But not my mom. Mama definitely called me baby. Exactly. Mama definitely called me baby. But not my mom. I'm not going to show you the DM. No, you're sorry. But I don't have a memorable gift because I don't want anything. I don't. I like doing stuff for the kids. That's the most important. That's the funnest thing to me because I got young kids. So there's nothing like watching them be excited about opening gifts. Like that's literally the greatest gift. So buy your kids toys because I have put it hard to that. Yeah, it's funny because my wife this year said everybody gets one gift. Oh. Because it's like, yo, they get all year around. That's the problem with Christmas. It's like, if you're giving all year round and you're getting what you want all year round, why at the end of the year do I got to be forced to go out there and find something to buy you? Exactly. It's like that pressure. Yeah. I got to go out there and fight people because there's thousands, millions of people all in the city and shit like that just to buy you one gift. I thought you'd go online now. Why are you still shopping in the store? This is a great question. Kodi.croft, what crime would you commit if that meant that no one could ever commit that crime again? Kodi, I don't know if there's a movie like this, but this is a fantastic premise. It's a little sick though. It is, but it's a fantastic premise. What crime would you commit if that meant that no one could ever commit that crime again? The final crime. Would you get caught though if you'd made the crime? That's another good point. I mean, it would have to be murder, right? Because murder is the one, murder, you can't come back from that in no way, shape or form. I feel like some people. So it would have to be, it would have to be murder. If nobody ever got murdered ever again. Who would be the person you would, I already know who I would. What? I would murder. Motherfucker, dressed in all black, like the old man, did you hear this, Motherfucker? You can take this out. She asked me a question, then stopped it to say, all right, you know who I would kill. I do. Who would it be? What's the guy's name that killed Trayvon Martin? Oh. Oh. I'm mad at that, but. I don't wish death on nobody. I also think maybe it would have be murder for me if I had to pick one, probably rape. You were raped someone? No. Nobody deserves that, especially like young kids. Absolutely. That shit kills my heart. Like men or women. Damn. Damn. So you would, so you would have to commit that? No, I know. Oh my God. I'm saying from the movie. We talk about a movie. That's the ball. You don't have to take this question so literal, Taylor. What do you mean? Jesus, it's hypothetical. You looking at, you looking at Nile and disgust, ooh, you would do that? No. It's a hypothetical question. I'm not looking like that. You don't have to take this literal at all. I'm just saying that's dark, but like, just imagine like. This is a fun, high question to ask. This is a good, high question. Kody, this is a good question, yo. He's probably high right now, honestly, when he wrote this. Ah, child, yeah, because child molestation is crazy. It's bad. Yeah. As somebody who's been molested for child. Right. Yes. I understand. But murder, though? I don't know. But murder, like there's no coming back from murder, so that mean people are just gone. You know what I mean? Not saying that that trauma. You've also said at one point in the context of a different conversation that sometimes people know when it's time to go. What's that movie I watched where some people are, I'm not justifying murder at all, but the guy, like God. Feralty. Feralty. One of my favorite movies. Where God was using that person to get rid of people who God needed. Did you watch Feralty? Yeah. It was interesting. You told me to watch it. And it was interesting. Feralty was great. But I'm saying, like. Now, that's a good example because in Feralty, this dude was committing a crime. Yes. But the people he was murdering deserve to be murdered. According to God's list that he was getting from God. Yeah. See, I don't know. I don't even want to dip in that, though, because then, you know, like the white people who'd be killing black people would be like, I was told by whoever the hell they bring. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like that shit's not justified. How is that movie? Oh. Oh, wow. You should watch it, though. Wow. Did you watch Leave the World behind? Did anybody watch Leave the World behind? The Obama movie? Yeah. I started it. I didn't finish it. Fantastic film. You did. It's fantastic. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I thoroughly enjoyed it because. It feels awkward. Why? A lot of that stuff has already happened to us. What? Is it fictional or not fiction? I mean, it's fiction, but it's not like that couldn't happen. Like, when you see Marshall Ali break down the three stages of how you could destabilize a country and he's like, take away their technology so nobody can use their phone. Nobody can contact each other. You take that away. That causes instant isolation. Then the second one was misinformation. So you spread misinformation, you know, all over the place. And the third one is we'll take each other out. It'll be coot-a-tots, coot-a-tots everywhere. You know, we won't be knowing what's going on. Everybody gets on edge. Like, and that's exactly what happened. And it happened in the movie in 48 hours. COVID took two weeks to shut our whole shit down. Two weeks the whole country was shut the fuck down. Economy needed a bailout. Within two weeks, America's a fucking house of cards. So when you watch that movie, it's just like, you know, nothing's happening in that movie that can't happen in real life. What else we got, Taylor? Let's do two more. What is the first step in being healthy? Diet. 100%. You know, that is the first step in being healthy. Number one is making the choice that you want to be healthy. Number two is diet. Putting the right things in your body. Drinking water, getting proper rest. That's it. I'm talking about even before you get to working out anything else, diet is the first step in being healthy, physically healthy. Chris, who's always sick, he has some mom. Take it, yeah, take it from me. Diet and then you have to find, well, water is part of diet, but like you have to find an activity that's going to give you a relief from stress. I would say mental discipline. Well, but that's that's how you develop the diet. That's how you stick to the diet. That's how you build time into your schedule. It could be running. It could be swimming. You got to like, mentor it to me to that. It could be gardening. It could be fishing. Something when you check out and let everything else come way down. That's that combination. What I like about what both of y'all just said, y'all didn't just talk about physical health. You know what I mean? Because a lot of times when we talk about health, we only think physical, you know, but physically, mental, physical, mental and emotional health is super important. Mental might be a little bit more important than physical nowadays. Because I know some people that is in great shape physically, but they fucked up mentally. They're connected. They're very connected. It's not one or the other. Yeah, you're right. It's not one or the other. You're absolutely correct. So that's, yeah, that's the first step in being healthy. Everything we just said, uh, I really can't remember. The question is favorite moment episode of the year. I really do not know. I don't know what you're just trying to spell. I don't know. I don't have a favorite. My favorite moment of the year is probably Andrew selling out Madison Square Garden twice and selling out the farm. And the reason that's my favorite moment is because y'all can go back and listen to old podcast and I would always say that I felt like one day Andrew was going to be the biggest comedian touring in the country. I think the guy's name is Russell Peters, Russell Peters at the time was that person and I saw Andrew in that space. And so when Andrew was selling out all these big arenas overseas, Salute loved that, you know, but, you know, as he would even say, it's like kind of like the Latin pop star thing. You big over there, but can you do it over here? So I knew once he started coming over here, he was going to do the same thing. So now being that I love to be right about things, I can talk my shit as he sold out Madison Square Garden, you know, twice and he sold out the farm and selling out arenas all over the United States of America. So for me, honestly, that's been my favorite at least moment of the year. Episode of the year. I don't know. I got to think about that. I got to think about that. What else, Taylor? Do one more. The lip one. Yeah. What lip one? Put your lip on this dick. I don't even want to play them. I'm going home. I'm taking my ball and going home. No, she got you actually. As always. I got you. We got you. No, I'm not done. I'm not. As always. No, I don't. I'm not. I'm leaving. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think you're smart. You think you're intelligent. You think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You're absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple idiots. You don't know shit. You're brilliant in this podcast. Thank you for listening. See you in 2024.