 Hi, my name is Tom Keenan of ID Tech X. I'm here at our ID Tech X show in Berlin. I want to introduce you to Mr. Peter Willett with AGFA. Peter, can you tell us a little bit about AGFA and what your involvement in the printed electronics world is? For sure. AGFA is already a market leader in printed electronics solutions for P.PSS conductive polymers that's already for over 20 years. But we now have developed a range of conductive nano-inks which are based really on nano-silver and that is really new in the market which is dominated by flagships today, but due to our breakthroughs in our developments we have really been able to solve some problems in the industry. If you look at the typical applications, they are mainly in automotive where you see typical silverings are used to make capacitive touch elements for automotive or white goods. What we bring to that is that first of all today this is done with P.PSS in combination with silver where the P.PSS is a transparent layer for the backlit. You see this is a backlit area everywhere. So this is the way how we do it today. We are now looking to implement that by replacing the P.PSS with nano-silver printed grids. I can show you that this works or it should work. You see that it's going up and down. So you see it's a really touch controller. I can put it on and off, I can lower the temperature or increase it a little bit. I can put it on auto which is always the safest choice. So if you look to how this could be done as well it's replacing the P.PSS with nano-silver and then it's hard to see I guess but you see that these are boxes are transparent conductive P.PSS, slightly bluish but here we printed a number of nano grids using the nano-silver as well for both the conductive circuitry and for the metal mesh or the grid where we use metal mesh to make the conductive transparent film. And what is the benefits of using nano-silver? It's very clear because in one printing step instead of having two printing steps you can have one printing step where you print both the conductive circuitry as before including the EMI shielding at high conductivity and at the same time with the same screen you print also the transparent conductive film area in the side. It should be also noted that typically for this type of products you talk about a film thickness, a silver film thickness of about 12 to 15 microns in this case we're talking about 1 to 2 microns. So also in terms of light weight and eventually in the lower coast it's clear that nano-silver ink is the way to go. Fantastic. I noticed you've got some other products over here. Exactly and that's also a very interesting development that we do. Akva is also a market leader in the development of inkjet inks for graphics industry but we also have a portfolio for functional inkjet inks which are behind you some inks that are for the PCB. I can show you. So this is actually a solder mask inkjet ink so you could still say that this is a kind of color ink but of course it is highly functional for the PCB industry because that's a pretty tough nut to crack actually to make a good solder mask. So this is inkjet printable solder mask and we also have of course in the range of the other nano-silver ink we now also have developed a conductive nano-silver ink which is digitally printed. For that we work also together with our solution partner MGI Ceradro but you see that we can print this boat on paper which you see in the back with the same conductivity levels as what we have for the screen printing ink and we can also print on plastics or on white graphic layers which opens up a totally interesting new world of combining functional conductive inks with graphic inks all under inkjet because we believe that although as you also say that 98% of the market is still using screen printing we strongly believe that over some time also inkjet printing will become a new manufacturing paradigm in the PE industry. And what are the product marketplace for things like this? Here you really talk, as I said, it's really people that are looking to changing from screen printing to having their full manufacturing flow in inkjet printing and I know that specifically for graphics manufacturing of all kinds of stuff inkjet printing is already well entrenched and people find themselves in a position where they say look we can do the first part of the process with inkjet using graphic inks and then we still have to go back to some sort of lamination technique or have to switch back to screen printing to do the rest of the stuff. And these are some applications, the well-known things that are based on the PDLC technology from CanDisplay. This is mainly also PDLC products so these are typical applications. Maybe one last interesting stuff is here you see a kind of formed piece, it is with PDLC PSS but of course going back to what we showed you there without motive we all know that structural electronics is really going to take probably going to be the next wave in integrating both plastic parts and functionality into one part and also there these inks have clearly simple potential. Okay, I've got one last question for you. ACFA goes to many events. Correct. How are you finding our ID Tech Act show here in Berlin? Actually it's no secret that we love coming to ID Tech Act shows both here in Berlin but also in the US because they're always well organized. We get a lot of support from the just before the show but also during and after the show. So for us it's a clear choice to work with you guys and hopefully we can keep it like that for some longer time. Peter, thank you very much for your time. You're welcome Tom. Thank you.