 Hello everyone, I'm Elizabeth de Pompey with the communications team at DAV National Headquarters in Erlinger, Kentucky, and I'll be your moderator today. In just a few moments, National Membership Director Doug Wells will give a presentation about officer election reports and my DAV.org. If you have questions, please type them in the Q&A box, which you can find at the bottom of your screen. We'll answer as many questions as we can during the Q&A portion at the end. Doug and his team are always available, but we encourage everyone to take advantage of this opportunity to ask questions. After today, you'll be able to review a recording of this presentation on DAV.org under member resources and on DAV's YouTube page. You'll find more videos about my DAV.org there as well. Without further ado, I'll turn it over to Doug. Well, good evening everyone. Thank you so much for taking some time out of your busy schedules to join us here for this important webinar. We're certainly appreciative of that effort and just want to reinforce that we are always here for you. If there's anything that we here at the membership team or national headquarters can do for you, you know where to find us on your screen here. You'll see my contact information. I always joke about this. I probably got the easiest email address and DAV history dwells at DAV.org. And that is the direct line to my desk. So, again, don't ever hesitate to reach out if there's anything my team or I can do to help you out. And if we're not able to answer your question, we're going to certainly get you a warm hand off to the right folks here at headquarters to assist you. So I'd be remiss if I talked about officer election reports without first going back and reviewing just a little bit about my DAV.org in which the officer election report functionality rests. So what is my DAV.org? So it's a self-service or reports repository for our members and member leaders. All DAV and auxiliary members have access to my DAV.org. DAV and auxiliary department and chapter or unit officers have expanded roles-based access. So I'll reinforce that a couple of times, but essentially what it means is, depending on what hats you're wearing within the organization, we'll determine what tiles are available to you in my DAV.org. So the easiest place to find everything you need related to my DAV.org is in our member resources section. So if you go to the main webpage of DAV.org, in the top right hand corner above the red donate button, you'll see the member resources link. Just click on that. When you get to that page, just scroll down past the tiles that you'll see there and you'll see that register or sign in to my DAV.org. You can of course register, sign in or you can take a look at the user manual. So certainly that is along with all of the capabilities that we're pushing through my DAV.org. That manual will be continually updated. So feel free to prove that and let us know if you have any questions or concerns. The first thing that you're going to need to do in order to get access to my DAV.org is register. So if you haven't already done this, please take an opportunity to do this. And all members, whether or not you're an elected or appointed officer, have access to my DAV.org. Again, it just remember that the tiles that will be available to you are based on whatever your roles are within the organization. It's a very simple registration form. You can either go to that link or again just do it the way I showed you in the previous screen. But just click, just complete this basic registration form. You'll submit that the key points to remember here is make sure you're entering your contact information correct. And for those of you out there that might have more than one membership in DAV, if you've moved around the country a little bit, just make sure that you're utilizing the membership number that you're going to be acting. As an elected or appointed officer for through the system. You know, we can help change that if that changes for you. Again, if you make a move after that fact, we can make sure that this is all spread away for you. But again, all the members should register from my DAV.org access. And what that does is if you are subsequently elected or appointed to official position within the organization that would have expanded access. You won't have to worry about doing this while you're waiting to get your access. So you're kind of getting ahead of the power curve here. When you do register, you'll get an initial email that says, hey, thanks for registering. But you need to give us a couple of days to validate you into the system. My team here at headquarters reviews all these registrations and ensures that everything is appropriate. If we have any issues, we'll of course reach out to you. But once we do get you registered in the system, you'll get a second email saying, okay, you're ready to rock and roll now in my DAV.org. So again, this is all self service. When you do your initial registration, you're going to log in with the username and password that you created. It's a good idea to go ahead and save the login screen somewhere to your favorites or to bookmark it on your computer. So you just always have an easy way to find it. That'll never change. But you're going to use the username and password that you created to gain access to my DAV.org. You can certainly gain access to it with a mobile device or on another computer. Just remember you're using a shared computer, say at a chapter home or at a department headquarters. Don't save your login information if other folks are using that computer as well if it's not a private computer. And again, this is entirely self service. So for those of you that might have been familiar with the old legacy membership system, you no longer need to call us here at national headquarters. If you just click the forgotten password link down here, it'll shoot an email with instructions on how to reset your password. You will have to do that at least once every 90 days because our security protocols require that passwords be expired and be reset every 90 days. So, you know, there's a couple of things we're doing with this information. We want to make sure that we're keeping it all secure. But, you know, just remember that if you go away for a little bit and come back and your password is not working, just reset your password and you'll be good to go again. So when you log in ultimately to my dv.org, the first thing you're going to see in there is the membership to your home screen. The, the main page will afford you the ability to access all of the functions that you have access to. So again, if you're, if you're a, you know, member that hasn't that doesn't have any. Relatable access. And what I want you to do is think of the the officer election report, the physical report. The PDF fillable form. If you think about the left side of that report. So your, your commander, your senior vice junior vice, your adjutant, treasurer. And then on the other side, the officer authorized or a few mail. Those are the folks that have the expanded access. So if you're fulfilling one of those positions at either the chapter, the department level, you'll have access to those reports. If you're at the department level, you'll have access to all of the reports for all of the chapters within your jurisdiction. If you're at the chapter level, your reports will be chapter focused. So primarily this relates to the report repository and the officer election report. I just want to take a quick moment and address the report repository. So we're continually, you know, working on these reports refining them so that the more user friendly. So if you're looking at the section of the labels report, which we're looking to push out here very quickly. You have access to all of the legacy reports that you had in the membership system. Plus, you also have a historical population summary. So there are certain milestones are year end on June 30 or year beginning on July 1. Every Monday, a couple of others here and there that we capture the reports. If you're looking at your membership goals and you want to find out, well, where did we start in for our goal at the beginning of the year on July 1, at the beginning of the membership year. You can look at your historical population summary from July 1 and compare it to your current population summary. So you can see the difference how well we're doing with our recruiting goals, how far we still have to go to go all that sort of stuff. So again, this is only accessible by Department of Chapter officers. And it's great because you can either download it in an Excel kind of a pretty spreadsheet with all those nice headers and columns. It makes it very presentable or you can download it in a CSV format so that you can sort the columns anyway you want. So that's a great tool for if you have to do a chapter newsletter or you want to reach out to the folks in your chapter that have emails, all that kind of stuff. You can find that you'll find that the CSV reports are very useful in that regard. So let's talk a little bit about our new capability to file officer election reports online through mydv.org. So again, when you come into the membership CRM, if you're one of those elected or appointed officers that have access to these reports, you'll find the officer election report file there and you'll click on it and what you'll see is something that looks like this. We have gone and populated as far back as we had the data in the legacy membership system. All of the historical officer reports going back to 2001, 2002-ish, depending on the data that we had in the system for the individual chapters and departments. So it's nice to be able to go back and reference those reports if you need to. So all you can do with those reports is view them. You also have the ability to revise your current report. So there's no longer a need to submit an entirely new report. If you have an officer resign or move out of state or pass away or whatever the fact may be that causes that change to be made, or if you need to change your meeting time and location, all of this stuff can be done revising your current officer report. And then also once election time rolls around, you can go ahead and start your new report for your newly elected office. So all of that stuff is done from the main screen here. If you need to go back to the initial membership CRM screen, you can just click on this blue link here and it will take you back. So when you go into the officer election form, either to complete a new one or to revise it, this is essentially what you're going to be presented with. So you need to confirm what information is there already. If obviously something needs to be changed, we certainly want you to do that. But you need to populate not only the date of your election, but the date of the installation. Please remember that the installation needs to be subsequent to the election date. If you're a chapter that has your elections and your installation on the same night, that's okay. But your installation cannot be before your election, obviously, but just make sure that those dates are right. Sometimes people accidentally flip them and the report will get rejected and they don't understand why. But so make sure all the meeting details and all that stuff is correct. And then when you go to select your officers, so you'll notice that the current officers from the previous annual or the previous officer election report are brought forward and automatically populated. If you've had a complete change in that in that office, you know, go ahead and select that X and it will clear out that officer spot. If the spot is being maintained by the same individual that was on the previous report, there's nothing you got to do, you can leave it alone. So this is a great time saver here and it really is being well received. So if you do, and I'm really excited about this, if you do have a change in your officer, all you need to do is look them up. You don't need their membership number to look them up. You can now look them up by name. So if you, it'll give you up to 100 results. I mean, obviously there are some bigger chapters out there, but most don't get to that level. But, you know, maybe it becomes a problem that somebody's got a last name of Smith and you got a ton of Smiths in the, in the chapter of the department. But basically you type in their, their last name so you can type in their lookup ID or member ID, you can type in their membership number. Here, or you can type in their last first name, their mental name, suffix if you need to. There's some other identifying criteria, but most folks can just type in the last name here in the third line. And, you know, hit search and those folks will start to appear for you. So, once you get, once you identify the person that's that you're looking for, and only those folks that meet that search criteria that exists in your current. On your current membership roles will be shown. So if you're not finding a person that you're looking for on the membership roles. We need to verify that they're actually a member of your chapter again going back to that scenario where somebody may move or whatever. Remember a a transfer form needs to be executed before. They'll be eligible to be put on your officer. We can again help with that. And you can go back and revise the report before you submit it. You know, if there's an issue with that. So again, just always reach out to us and we'll get you square away. But again, once you identify the person that you're looking for. You just go ahead and click select on that data field and it will populate them into that section on the officer election board. Once you get through, you know, completing all of your. All of your officers on the form. You can review them and remember, there are certain officers that are required for the report. You don't necessarily have to have an inspector general. You know, or a B P T L in order to submit your report. So again, you got to think of the, the left side of the officer election report plus the officer authorize to receive mail. Which is typically the same as the adjunct or the command or something like that. But there are rare occasions where it's something different. So, again, review all the meeting details in the officer assignments. And once you're confident that all of that stuff is good to go. You go ahead and you assign it your input or your membership ID or your membership number in that form. Go ahead and click submit. It'll let you know that the officer that the officer election report has been submitted. And you can click done or click on back to all your landing page whichever way you got to go. But the done button will take you back out to the, to the, to the initial screen. So, remember, when you, when you submit that report. You won't be able to revise it again until we either approve it or reject it here at national headquarters. So once you submit that report, you won't be able to revise it until you get something back from us. And once you submit the current report, your previous officer election report from the previous year will then become a viewable owner. So you won't be able to revise that report either. So that's a, it's an important distinction in a week. So we want to make sure that that you've got all your ducks in the road before you click submit for sure. And also click save on that report without submitting it so that you can come back and make revisions if you realize, you know, midscreen that there's an issue that you experienced. The other thing that we're incredibly excited to announce is that very soon, I'm going to be releasing an announcement that department administrators can be added to my davey.org so that they can then in turn help the department administrator with these types of efforts. This is for department admins only folks at the chapter level will not have this capability. So there'll be detailed instructions on how to do that in that memo that you'll see coming out very soon. Please look for that in your inboxes at the department level. We're super excited about that because we, we certainly want our chapter folks if they don't have the technology or the technological wherewithal to be able to lean on our department staff for the inputting of officer election reports. So they should be able to go to the site, get the printable PDF or fill it out with their information and then forward it over to the department to then be entered. And if folks have questions about that, again, please don't hesitate to reach out to us. That's kind of an added bonus for tonight I wanted to just make sure folks were aware of our new member recruitment resource. So again, if you go to member resources on the main davey.org page and you scroll down to this second tile on the left publicity. You're going to see a whole list of different things that are related to kind of publicity and outreach that we do, but you're looking for the recruitment resource here. Now there's two different versions. There's a digital version and a print version. So if you're someone that's very comfortable with technology, you will see you see essentially the same thing between the digital and printable. But the idea with the digital resource is to kind of give you a dynamic way to share information. So the first thing you're going to see is the elevator, the elevator speech here. So just a quick 30 second blur that you can share as to why somebody should join davey, right. And again, we're trying to army with the tools necessary to be successful recruiters. So the idea behind the digital version is you can save this to your home screen on your pad or your phone. You have all this information at your fingertips. So somebody says, you know, hey, Doug, what, why does davey have membership news. So again, here's a here's a blur for that. But if you click on this hyperlink to launch the davey membership dues video that we have on YouTube. Once you're done answering the next question, you can just back out of that back to the recruitment resource. And if somebody has another question, you know, who's eligible for the click on the hyperlink in that blur inside that paragraph. And it will launch the value of davey membership video that talks about not only who's eligible, but also, but also what the advantages of being a davey member are. So again, get comfortable with this resource. I really feel like it's dynamically changing how we're recruiting the inner membership committee did great work on this. We really appreciate all the time and effort that they put into this. And I really hope that you take some time at your chapter meeting to share this with everybody. So that they can kind of poke around in these links and review this stuff so they haven't at their fingertips. Pardon me when they're out recruiting and talking to perspective members. So for those folks that aren't as technically inclined, they can print off the PDF version. And on the backside on both forms, this is what it looks like. But on the PDF version, you'll see this QR code. All of the videos and site links that are within the digital document, obviously because you can't click on a piece of paper, but somebody can take out their phone or their pad. Turn on the camera scan that QR code with the camera and a link will present itself that they can click on and launch a link tree to all of the videos and sites that are available in the document. So again, this is a great tool. I really encourage you to share this with your members at your next chapter department level meetings. I think this is really going to help us go a long way towards meeting our goal because we're always looking to put additional arrows in your recruitment quivers. If you have questions about any of this stuff, again, don't hesitate to call me or my team and we'll take as much time as we need with the audience. So I know we went through some things there quickly. Again, I want to encourage everybody to circle back to member resources, scroll down, open up that. That might be our user guide. We're continuing to enhance that with information about off online officer election reports. In addition to other stuff and as new capabilities and features roll out, we'll be sure to keep you abreast of all those. Great changes. I hope you're looking forward to Elizabeth. That's all I had right now. I'll go ahead and take some questions. Great. Thank you, Doug, for that. And as a reminder, you can submit questions in the Q&A box. You'll find that at the bottom of your screen. All right. So first question here, how do I find a member if I don't have the member number. There was a capability in the old legacy system and it is something we're looking to put into DAV, into my DAV.org, where people can search by name, the national roster. Right now, unfortunately, chapters and departments are limited to the reports that are available to them and there isn't a search feature per se that will just let you put in somebody's name and search our national roster. We are, that is a hot topic. It's definitely on my radar. And we are looking, that's one of the few capabilities that we had in the old system for department of chapter officers that we don't have in my DAV.org. But it is definitely something that I'm trying to reestablish within the new system. You know, it's still over the horizon, but it is definitely on my radar. Okay. And but when filling out election reports, you don't need the member ID number, correct? You can search. Yes, you can search by name. That is one of the greatest features of the new officer election report feature on my DAV.org is the ability to search by other criteria other than membership number. I get, you know, 12, 13, 14 digit membership numbers. And the fat thing during like I do on the keypad, whatever it becomes frustrating. That's why we wanted our chapter and department leaders to be able to search by other criteria. Great. All right. Chapters do not have access to the member at large chapter of their state. How can this be fixed? Well, the department has access to that. So, if there's something that you're looking for for the chapter at large, you would need to get that from the department. If you are looking to do, say, you want to invite people that are any at large chapter to, you know, that are within your chapters jurisdiction to join your chapter. You can certainly reach out to us here at National Headquarters and I'd love to develop a list for you that way. Of course, the more members are associated with active chapters, the better DAV is for it. So I would definitely support that. So, of course, you can reach out to your departments for one-offs. But if you're looking for a list for an effort like that, certainly give us a call or shoot an email and we can get back for it. Great. How do you account for commander and agitance signature that was needed before? So, that's a great question. When you register for and are validated into mydv.org. Again, that's roles based and we're seeing that information that we get on the officer election before compared to the validated record in our system. So that becomes kind of a de facto digital signature. So when, again, if you're thinking about the author report, the folks that are on the left side of the report and the officer authorized to receive mail are the folks that can complete and submit a new author report. So typically, there's holdover in one of those positions, at least the agitance for the chapter when new elections are held or your senior vice and then moves up to command them. When that election occurs and the new officer report needs to be submitted, that one of those individuals that are still in the chapter can go ahead on the new report and submit it. And what happens is the folks that are on the report get an email notification that the report has been submitted, that it's been approved or rejected. In addition to the folks at the chapter level that get informed, a email is also sent to the officer authorized or receive mail at the department level of the appropriate jurisdiction. So there's lots of transparency that surrounds the process beyond the initial validation into mydv.org. Great. Thank you. Is there an expected election date to be used by chapters? No, everybody. I mean, most chapters have their elections in the springtime. Some have them earlier. Some have them a little bit later. Typically, they've got to have them in order to operate and be successful at the upcoming department convention. So there's a hard deadline there, but chapters typically designate their own election month and year. Pardon me, their own election month. They just need to make sure that they're having their elections at the same time every year. Or as close to it as they can. Obviously, there are things, life gets in the way sometimes COVID is the prime example of that where we didn't have chapter meetings for a bit. Some of that stuff was delayed. And certainly, if you get outside the typical month when you are having an election, just reach out to us and we can make adjustments. But we just want to try to maintain consistency for the good of the order, but I'm not going to dictate when chapters should have their elections outside of what I just discussed. Right. And you kind of just alluded to this, but why is it important to update and submit these officer election reports in a timely manner? Because we need to know who's in charge essentially at the local level for sure. Departments need that information. So there's a couple of key things here. One, we need to know who are the folks that have authority in their different jurisdictions. But also those folks are the ones that we're communicating with here from national headquarters. I'll kind of give you just another little teaser here. We're currently revamping all of our department and chapter websites, what we historically called our member portals. But you're going to have access to a no kid website. So we'll be able to communicate through that as well as the department headquarters. But we also send out email communications. That's the primary way that we're communicating with chapters. So at the very least, every chapter in department commander, adjutant and officer authorized to receive mail. Again, if it's a different person are receiving these communications from us via a platform called constant contact. So you'll get those notifications, the memo, the announcement about admins being added, all that stuff comes via that. There's a way to unsubscribe from that constant contact platform. And sometimes people do it. I don't know if they do it erroneously. I know some people do it purposely. But that's how we're sharing information from the top down with our chapter department leaders. So, if you are someone who thinks maybe you mistakenly unsubscribe. You please give me a call or shoot an email at the wells at the dot org. So we can get that fixed. So if you're like, why isn't he talking to me anymore? That's probably why or check your junk and make sure our stuff didn't actually get sent to your job. And Marcus has not spam. You know, we have had some historical issues in the past where where. Internet service providers have mistaken us for spam and and. You know, constant context, one of the things that helps us prevent that it helps maintain our internet reputation with all that good stuff. So. Please be sure if you're a chapter commander agenda or ensure you're getting these communications from us. If not, there's a problem. Give us a call. Doug, what are some reasons that an officer election report would be rejected? So, you know, in the past, we would reject it for one of the reasons I talked about that's kind of excluded now. Where somebody will put an officer in that's not part of the chapter. They have to be part of the chapter. And again, at that point, we just need to affect you in a transfer form. But, you know, there could be a problem with the report. The data was submitted versus when probably the day the elections were held versus what we historically have a record. Maybe, you know, information on the time and place has to be rejected for some reason. There could be a whole host of issues that that's a great example, though, sometimes a chapter will move. Not understanding there's kind of a process that they have to go through in order to ensure that they're not infringing on another chapter's historical jurisdiction. So the moves for chapters have to be approved before they're put on the officer report. So we've had many indications, many times where people have submitted a change of address or meeting time and place. And it wasn't approved. So we need to make sure that, you know, the departments where that stuff. And that the nationals where that stuff to make sure that everything's kosher before we let that happen. So that that's one of the reasons that there are a little couple of reasons that we are here's maybe a more specific example. We have one member who said one of our chapters reports was rejected because we didn't have a first junior vice commander. I noticed that your example had a vacancy for that officer, which is correct. Again, so I that example was just showing you kind of as you fill it out. But that's a great point. That's what I referenced before. Some offices have to be filled in order for the officer election report to be to be accepted. So the system won't even let you accept it if you don't have all of the officers. So now if you're finding, you know, you're a chapter, you're trying to reinvigorate and you just you've got the commander, the adjunct, the senior vice, the treasurer. You've got all these offices filled except the junior vice commander. We can push exceptions through on our end. But again, what are the three most important things communication communication communication right reach out to us. And I'll discuss it with the inspector general. And in, you know, if the situation is appropriate, we can certainly make an exception, but that can only be done on our end. You know, for obviously for the good of the order, the system won't approve won't let you submit reports that are that are incomplete. But thank you. Another member asks, is there an assistant adjutant role available. I'm sorry, is there assistant what role available. No, but again, that can be. That can be fixed with the department admin capability. So you'll have the capability to designate up to two folks within the department as as admins. So, and I'm assuming this question was was about a department level position. That's never going to be the case at the chapter level. But at the department, if you have another body in the, especially if they're already a member, it's very easy to designate them as a department. You'll, you'll see specific instructions. So the great thing about the department admin designation is that somebody doesn't have to be a member. We can create a constituency for them in our system and still get them assigned as a department admin within the system. Doug, you may have answered this, but does, or do OERs require both commander and adjutant signatures. Not anymore. Again, that's where we're validating folks into the system. It can be anybody that's on the previous report. Again, on the left, if you think of the old paper, officer election report, everybody on the left side and the orm. If you experience an instance in which the entire chapter leadership is wiped out for some of these. That's why the departments can submit officer election reports on behalf of the chapter. So that chapter would just need to have their election, elect their new slate of officers and send it into the department. They'll validate that. They know the lay of the land locally better than we do here at headquarters and they'll input that officer election report in on behalf of the chapter. All right, somebody asked the difference between DAV.org and my DAV.org. Do you want to kind of recap my DAV.org? Yeah, so DAV.org is just the website. If you haven't had a chance to go to DAV.org, our main national website. Please do so. Our communications team did an outstanding job of redesigning and refreshing that website. Everything is very intuitive. You know, we got rid of a lot of the clutter, but especially if you're a chapter or department member leader. Please go to member resources and click on member leader on that tile. All of the memos that we've sent out, there's presentations there that we've done at commanders and agitants and our recent department admin training. But especially those historical memos, a question that I get a lot of time is, well, how do we invite members in virtually their chapter meetings? There's the memo that offers that guidance is right there in the members leader section. There's also the quick links tile that folks can go to. You know, that has all of the information you need. So your annual financial report kid. You know, when convention time rolls around the delegate forms for the department and chapters will be there. So just everything that you could, you know, want to look at is really found in those 2 tiles when it comes to just the general operations of the departments and chapters. So, you know, please take a, take a look at that stuff. It's just great. What our communications team was able to do. So this very presentation will be housed at the evey dot org on November resources. As well as I think we're posting it on our on our YouTube page. So, dv.org is the straight website. My dv.org is the platform. The public facing platform that we designated as our platform of choice to replace the old legacy membership system. So, bear in mind, while it's membership heavy right now. In addition to all the things that you can do, you know, as, as a, as an individual member paying off memberships. You know, looking to see how much you still low, et cetera, et cetera, updating your personal information to get married need to change your name. That's what you do it request a new membership card, complete a transfer request, all that stuff. It's very membership that right now, but there are going to be other. Other capabilities added to that down the road. I don't want to steal any thunder here, but I know there's other other departments that are going to be adding some information through my. So, it'll be your one stop shop or anything that you need in order to operate as a member as a volunteer as a member leader. That's the goal. That's the stretch goal. I have a couple more questions here again if you want to submit a question just do so in the q amp a box that you'll find at the bottom of your screen. All right, let's see is my dv.org mobile friendly. Absolutely. So, not only is my dv.org mobile friendly but dv.org the website is mobile friendly so everything we do is mobile friendly all of the, all of the platforms we're using. When you go to if you go to dv.org on your phone, it's going to present differently to you than it does on a computer. It's it's optimized for mobile devices when you're accessing that one. So my dv.org same thing with you like to sit in the man cave in your recliner and conduct business on a Sunday and catch up on your emails and. Prepare for your next chapter meeting and all that stuff on your pad while you're watching the football game. I love that. My dv.org is very mobile friendly and you can absolutely do all that stuff. You know, some of it. One of the things we're working on right now to add to my dv.org is the ability to do annual financial reports electronically. So we want to optimize that and be able to auto populate fields and allow you just to take pictures of the receipts and. Other items necessary for a successful AFR and to do all that from the comfort of your mobile device or your computer, whatever you. So there's other capabilities. Great Doug is there anything else any final thoughts you'd like to add. No, again, I just appreciate everybody coming out, you know, for the presentation. And we'll be sure to post. This presentation as well. So if you want to share it at a local meeting, you certainly can but. You know, I encourage you to. Shoot the link to this presentation of folks that made me weren't able to participate tonight. But again, if you have any questions concerns, not just about. My dv.org or the OER process or anything else that you see. Within the scope of the headquarters. Remember, we embrace the wrong no wrong door approach here membership. If it's not no wheelhouse and we don't have the expertise to properly answer your question. We are going to get you to the right folks that time. And Doug, we just got 1 more question here. Are there any plans to give department junior vice commanders visibility of their chapters reports such as membership roles. So the junior vice commander for for the apartment can be designated on that I know we don't have. You know, 2nd, junior vice and not all chapter or probably not all departments are. Create an equal in that regard or have a need for additional officers like that, but. We do have the capability as needed to add additional spaces for officers. And again, we're going to be continually revising this. But that's something I'll make a note of. As we move forward with additional choices. Great. Well, thank you for another wonderful presentation Doug and a big thanks to everyone who tuned in your interest to commitment and commitment to veterans help amplify DAV resounding voice on behalf of our nation's disabled veterans and their families. Before we go, you can find a recording of this and past webinars under member resources on DAV.org and on our YouTube page. If you have any follow up questions, you can reach Doug via email at D Wells at DAV.org. Again, that's D Wells at DAV.org. Thank you all again and enjoy the rest of your day.