 What kind of third largest city in the world? It should be the third one But actually if you counted the the thing is that the city you count. Yeah Yeah, it has been growing a lot and if you counted the the the following parts the following Delegations as we call them. Uh-huh a bigger than any part of China or Japan. So yeah because Tokyo always always top right one and then it's you know Sol and Mexico City and Shenzhen and a bunch of Indian and Chinese cities That we're not going to pretend that we know how to pronounce it the names of Well, yes, Patrick does look different today Nick with a C because Patrick's not here today Instead we're very happy to have Dan In couples Actually, what's in one of Patrick's shows a lot of Sometime ago, so I don't promise that I can do a French accent, but what? But we would like you to try in the post show, please Yeah, we must well, I'll do it so you don't feel singled out like Wonder Woman All right, you guys ready Yeah Sarah I will be ready in two I'm ready in two seconds All right here Wait Well, where's my thing there? Okay? Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday November 28th 2017 from DTS headquarters in Los Angeles I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feelin at the beach. I am Sarah Lane and From Mexico City. We're very happy to have Dan compost media manager at Genoma lab with us as well How are you Dan? I'm excellent. Thank you and yes I'm reporting live from Mexico City where we might not speak Esperanto, but we speak Spanish We will one day do a show in Esperanto Why you got a Producer Roger Chang is here as well also not speaking in Esperanto. No and probably never will I guarantee it I'll give you a steak sauce if I'm wrong We're gonna talk to Dan about media distribution a lot of times we hear people say Yeah, you guys always talk about Netflix in the US and Hulu and we don't get Hulu So we're gonna talk about how it works in Mexico and other places in the world But let's start with a few tech things you should know Breaking right before we started recording this show a developer at Lee my Orhan Ergen posted on Twitter that in Mac OS Hi, Sierra if you type in root as the username leave the password box blank and Then hit enter and click on unlock a few times Won't work the first time but you keep clicking on unlock the prompt will disappear And you'll be logged in as an admin and get to do anything to that machine that an admin can do If you have a root account enabled and a password for its set though that trick won't work So a don't leave your Mac unattended where someone can get at it be set a root account You can do that by going to terminal and entering pseudo Password PAS swd slash you are a dash you sorry and root You can look it up online too, but you might want to set a root password just in case Coworking company we work known for actual physical spaces where people co-work has agreed to buy meetup Which is the 2002 company founded to organize meetup So sort of a physical company buying a virtual company tech crunch points out that the in the last six months We work has been on a bit of a tear has acquired construction communications company field lens Singapore co-working company Space mob enterprise sales and marketing company who know me and coding bootcamp flat iron school I'm just a little sad that space mob is not something spacey or or mob year Russia lost contact with its meteor M weather satellite shortly after launch Tuesday morning from Russia's newest Spaceport for Stochni the satellite failed to reach its designated orbit It's meant to carry out a five-year mission to collect images and data for Russia's weather agency But it doesn't look like it'll get to do that the rocket also carried 18 other satellites from other countries Plex confirmed to tech crunch that it's rolling out a feature for its over-the-air DVR function That will this might make some people happy Automatically remove commercials from recordings Plex's documentation warns that this feature is going to take some time And it can cause high CPU utilization It's available in beta now for Plex past subscribers, and I know Dan was not happy to hear about this Yeah, I love Plex but the this kind of hurts me right in my pocket Because you work at advertising All right, Sarah, we got some more top stories Yes, we do US district judge William Alsop ruled that Uber had withheld evidence and granted Waymo a request to delay the trade Secrets trial that has been scheduled to begin next week Waymo learned of the new evidence last week when it was shared with judge Alsop by the US Department of Justice It involves a letter from former Uber security analyst Richard Jacobs lawyer that alleges Uber's market analytics group quote Exists expressly for the purpose of acquiring trade secrets code base and competitive intelligence Okay, nothing's gonna sound good when Uber's involved these days, and I'm not saying this is great They should have caught this the new Uber under kosar Shahi Might be excused as overlooking it But the you know the trend in this case has been for them to drag their feet You know the historic attitude of Uber is to kind of flout regulations and laws I don't think though aside from yes, this letter should have been entered into evidence It should not have been withheld I Don't think it's unusual for companies to have departments dedicated to Looking out for trade secrets now legally acquiring them obviously but not not stealing them But I think that's kind of a normal part of many large businesses. No, I mean at this point is Hard for me to follow Yeah, I agree with you Tom It's like this is I'm not really in the camp of like Uber's evil. This is obviously really bad necessarily but this you know this story kind of broke last night and I've been trying to parse it and Mike Isaac over the New York Times is kind of on the Uber case Maybe more so than any other journalist right now and and you know, he gets kind of breathless about this stuff so I always pay attention and You know, it's like it's hard for me to wrap my head around what's going on these days Dan does it strike you as is odd that Uber would have a market analytics group Expressly for the purpose of acquiring trade secrets code base and competitive intelligence Well, as you mentioned before pretty much every every big company has a department that with a different name Usually does that those that the same kind of work. However, I have a different question Like how longer will be the the grace period for the new CEO? In this case for for you for over. Yeah, how long I mean I don't think anybody's giving Uber a grace period when when uber's name comes up I think when Cozer Shahe's name comes up, then yeah people people do tend to take you know to take a little nicer approach to him I think I don't know I would like to say when all of the scandals of the old administration have been played out That then then everybody'll say okay now everything's on you Dara But I wonder how long that will take or if we'll ever have a point where we can definitively say, okay That was all colonic And now it's all under the new one. I also think you know a company like uber That's obviously the market leader, but it has clear competitors in the space and we'll continue to as everybody gets into the self-driving game At face value having a group that's designed to make sure they understand what the competition is doing As long as it's all happening above board legally is not in itself That big a deal. I don't think that's kind of understandable. It's It's one of the tactics that they're using to gain information. That's ad question bingo Real quickly before we move on i'm curious Dan. What what's the ride hailing scene like in mexico city? well, um, obviously uber was the first one to get in here after that it was cabify and different services We're coming in here and um pretty much prices have Have come to a point where there is not that much difference if you take a regular cap And if you use any of these other services the convenience always wins over gotcha Microsoft introduced a new windows 10 function called sets It allows apps to open other apps in a tab without needing to launch the other app separately So let me give you an example if you're in word you want to look up something in edge in the browser You could just open a tab in word Look something up in the browser and you don't have to go launch the browser and change your window It's saving you a couple clicks. Also, you can save the tabs that you have open. Let's say you've got Uh, you've got your notes tab open and you've got your edge tab open Maybe you even have an excel tab open in word you can save all those tabs With the file for viewing later on the same device or on other devices if you're saving it to one drive So that's a launch first to a select number of users in the windows insider program in the coming weeks That's another notable thing launching something to a portion of windows insider rather than everybody at once Yeah, it's it's kind of funny that the concept of like oh not having to go to the browser to get to the internet You know at least in the you know like a desktop experience Hasn't been integrated and a lot more services sooner You know, I even I'm still kind of getting used to the fact that on on my phone If I search for something now I get a bunch of uh internet results rather than having to like tap my chrome My app, but uh, yeah This seems like if you can get used to the workflow and it doesn't seem weird to you then saving a couple clicks always helps I will always have separate sets of tabs just from the browser So this was a revelation to me when I saw this I'm like, yes I absolutely will do this in microsoft word. I'm not sure that I'll ever have a use case to do it in excel But maybe I will Dan is it sound like something you would use Actually, yes A long time ago I used to work at universities. So for example in the educational playing field This will be very very helpful for teachers So you can have pretty much all the information and all the the the links even for wikipedia For any of the classes that you have that you that you are preparing Here's an interesting story Epic games maker of the fortnite survival shooter game filed a lawsuit against a 14-year-old boy over his use of game modifications that came from cheating software So software designed to make you better that shooting a gun that sort of thing The boy's mother has filed a legal note calling for epics lawsuit to be thrown out Arguing that her son didn't actually develop the cheats. He didn't distribute them He just downloaded them from a popular cheating website and then streamed himself using the cheats. However Epic says now, that's not really what happened The real issue was that the boy was promoting the software on youtube on a video and claims he refused to take down That how-to guide video for using the cheating software So it's kind of one of these cases of like you say like oh 14 I just a kid and epic's like well, but if this was anybody else This is totally inappropriate and he's promoting The cheating software that obviously shouldn't be being distributed I have two Mines on this story and neither one of them have to do with going after a 14-year-old boy, which come on I mean epic that's just that's not going you're not going to win Yeah, it's it's never a really good Uh and and the mom's uh note is for lack of a better word epic So I know why that's getting all of the uh all of the attention here But I do understand what epic saying which is the way the dmca works in the u.s. And the way youtube works They put epic in a position where they kind of had to do something they had to take some kind of legal action And if you don't understand what youtube does is if someone files a claim for copyright They they alert you and say hey somebody filed a claim on this and you can say no it's it's it's fine It's fair use or I have the rights or whatever and then The filing company in this case epic can say no we really mean it. We are filing an official dmca claim Notifying you you have to take it down. That's the actual takedown notice if you say no to that one Then their only recourse is to sue you you're basically saying take me to court if you believe That I'm in violation. I've done that before I have had people say Your your deep episode of of dts or tech news today in one case Violates copyright and we got to the point where I said well, then you're going to have to take me to court and they dropped it This kid did that he said well, then you're going to have to take me to court And so epic either would have to tacitly admit that he wasn't violating their copyright Or file a case against him and the way the dmca works if he's doing anything that circumvents copyright They have to file the case To say well You are encouraging people that's against the dmca encouraging people to circumvent copyright and maybe the cheats do that I don't know But that could be that what their case is And they say well, we have to fight this or it could be used as a precedent against us They could say well, you didn't you didn't sue this kid And you filed a notice against him youtube has a record of you filing a notice So they're kind of between a rock and a hard place where I get to the other end of it Is is there a copyright violation in showing a cheat that I'm a little unclear on is it Showing people how to circumvent copyright protection to cheat in which case clear cut dmca Or is it just well, we don't like this but he's showing our game footage So we'll we'll use copyright to get it taken down. I know that Yeah, I mean that's that's it's it's I think You know, there would be obviously less eye rolling slash outrage if this was a 34 year old man Other than you know a kid and you're right, tom if you if you read the note from the mom as the verge pointed out It's like well, she's either a lawyer Or she knows a good lawyer or she's extremely good at researching legal stuff because it's uh It's quite well written and and she makes a lot of good points But at the same time. Yeah, it's it's you know as a company who It's very easy to be like, oh, you're just the bad guy. It's like well, you know, there's some uh situations where your hands are tied a bit because of the law Group of investors led by soft bank has offered to buy uber shares based on a valuation That's 30 below the last private valuation that last private valuation estimated the value of uber at 70 billion dollars So 30 percent below would be about 50 billion uber announced a few weeks ago It had entered into an agreement with a consortium led by soft bank and dragoneer Some uber employees and other investors would be allowed to sell shares Something they wouldn't normally be able to do until an IPO if the deal is completed benchmark capital has reportedly agreed to drop Its lawsuit against founder travis kalanik Yeah, I kind of that's I kind of all I have to say about this either We wrapped it all up in the other uber conversation But it is interesting to note that soft bank Is wanting to put money in this case at a discount it seems into uber And and it may be that soft bank ends up answering your question dan By just sort of subsuming that and and saying you know what it's nobody's fault now. We're the new owners eventually We'll see Well, I have some kind of fun news for people who like aircraft technology and innovation Rolls Royce Airbus and semen's kind of an unlikely trio But there you go announced that they are developing a hybrid electric plane They hope will be ready for test flights by 2020 the efan x is is a is a propeller I guess as it's called could be on commercial passenger planes by 2025 and would replace one of the passenger planes for jet engines With an electric one to help not only save fuel but also meet emission and noise standards I We've been promised these these kinds of planes for a long time They're very difficult to make work because the weight of the batteries needed to make it Worth while is usually too much, but the batteries are getting slimmer. They're getting more efficient Uh, so I guess one engine is is a step along the road, right Well, will we need an some sort of Elon musk to drive this this kind of research further One engine makes the most sense because it's cheaper to implement You still have three traditional engines. So people passengers aren't freaked out And on approach, you don't need as much power. So if you can use more of the e engine as you come in You still have issues with noise abatement, but it probably won't be as loud as you know a pratt and wendy cranked up all the way When you say that you probably you have issues with noise abatement You're saying that the electric engine is just as noisy like it will probably be less noisy, but It's gonna make a fair amount of noise. I mean it's still it's still noisy even if it's a slight Hair dryer Is has many of the same properties as this engine will and it makes a lot of noise and it's electric, right? Yeah, I don't run my hairdryer off a gas engine. I don't know if any of you do But I didn't realize you had a hairdryer tom learn something new today. Well, I share one Under california law. I'm a part owner of that's good for emission standards sharing hairdryers. Yes, exactly Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines.com. It's available as a podcast You can get it on the amazon echo or on the google home and in the anchor app go check out all of them at once All right last week at&t announced an agreement with both hbo go and Netflix to let users of their internet service pay for streaming in the same bill they pay their phone service with AT&T connecta So this is happening in mexico. We've had similar things happen in the united states But this arrangement in mexico is with hbo go with hbo at netflix You're saying that this is a response to other services, right dan? That's correct. Um, actually we have Different services. Obviously we we get streaming services as netflix or amazon prime video in here However, the the kind of deals that the different companies local companies like telmex They pretty much own over 70% of the infrastructure for telecommunications in here They have their their own platform Which is called claro video and they have already some deals that for example if you want to To have hbo go you actually can do it You seem the the services that they are offering So in the in this way the main competitor that they are having right now Which is AT&T is trying to level a little bit the the play field By by signing this kind of deals and it's kind of interesting because At least for television content. It's a kind of a close environment. It's really hard to To have as someone else as a new competitor However, in the in the case of streaming services, it's easier to do and this is How they are trying to compete in here The importance that this deal in particular has is that well AT&T is offering a new service As you mentioned in the united states, you have similar offerings in there And i'm sure that pretty much in in the rest of the world we have that However, this is this also plays in the way that the mexican economy works because we kind of Don't trust banks as much as in the united states So for the payment of the services in this case netflix or the same hbo go Instead of using my credit card. I'd rather use the service that I have already Higher in this case my my cell phone service with AT&T and use the charge with them For an extra offering that they are giving to me and they are in this case playing with the the rules that are working The best for for other services here in this country Yeah, so so tell mex which which owns, uh, chlorovideo You said owns about 70 of the infrastructure for telecommunications. That's a tough thing for for You know, it's it's funny for us people I think to think of AT&T as the underdog But that's a tough thing for AT&T to try to break into And in this case, for example, uh, I believe that it was later last week or early Perhaps it was yesterday. Uh, there has been an ongoing trial trial because uh competitors of telmex Want to use the infrastructure without paying commission to telmex? However, the the the judge said well, you are using something that has been made by a different company So it's right Is there right to charge you for the use of this service? So that's why they are trying to well if we cannot Have our own infrastructure in this case. How can we level the playfield? So we can be a little bit more competitive in this case So it's a workaround to try to not I think and trap might be too strong of a word But to say well, if if people are wanting to have everything on one bill We get them to pay their cell phone bill to us and their netflix bill and their hbo bill then suddenly They won't want to leave us and and and we'll have a competitive advantage That's correct. And also it's kind of interesting because the kind of deals that they are doing It's with the let's say that like the lower tire in the case of netflix because it's it's cheap and and you have All shows and obviously the the netflix orinas But you have also hbo go which let's say that it's like the high the high bar in in quality in in tv production and one thing that I want to mention is that Also besides the the the means that are being used to distribute the content It's really important to see the the arrangement for the distributions And the rights that you have to pay for the different tv shows the different film companies Which is also some of the difference that we have in this case in latin america or in mexico because even And you know tom when you trouble I believe that it was to england you have a different Of shows in there that perhaps you were like well, I perhaps I can download some of these To watch them or when while I am on the plane And it's the same in here obviously it depends on the kind of rights management that that you have in interest of the world And also in the kind of channels that you have for example Warner The cw shows were really hard to get in in streaming service That has changed for example netflix has been done has been doing a wonderful work in in there But it was really hard to watch shows as Like friends before it was only on the on the tv channels on cable And you couldn't watch it in in a different platform And it's also something that affects Cinema distribution and films. I remember one particular case that Well, let's say that I was a little bit involved of one movie I don't remember if if have you heard about x machina. Oh, yeah. No, I saw that that was great movie All right That's an independent sci-fi film and it was the rights for the distribution in in in this country in mexico We're owned by a by a friend of mine for a cine carnival And they they have the arrangement to distribute it on on movie theaters here in mexico However, uh, a different company which also owns, uh, it is one of the big, um Chains in movie distribution because they have the a movie theater Let's say that they are like the mexican amc with the allen theaters They got their rights for digital distributions and because they have A better offering in in this case They weren't going to compete in in the movie theaters But they were going to compete in the digital distribution Wait the theater chain has digital distribution rights. That's that's brilliant. Yeah, and for example, one of the things that you can Actually, uh, let me see if I can send you a link If you search for cinepolis, which is the name of the brand. They actually are very smart Trying to do some packages in the case for example, justice league or wonder woman movie You can get one a special ticket the ticket. What does this include? It includes the ticket for the movie It also includes a the digital version of the movie when it's released that's that one And uh, you also get a different kind of extra So you can pay once for the movie and have it in three different means You have you can watch it on the movie theater Which is the first experience and then have the digital the digital experience What we're looking at the screen is actually the offerings that they have for cinepolis cinepolis click Some of some of those which is the streaming service that they have Getting back to the first point. They own the rights for the digital distribution of x machina and for example My friends have the the rights for distribution on the regular titters But because they have the the rights for the digital distribution They were like, you know, everybody's going rather to watch it at home the same movie with the with the streaming offering Instead of going to the titters. So they they decided not to release it in mexico. Oh, wow That's that's kind of turning the entire dynamic on its head compared to the way it works here, but I feel like the theaters having digital distribution Even if it's maybe causing some unintended consequences like that is is a good thing for the theaters I mean theaters in the u.s. How to take a cue from mexican theaters that way And also for example well When you mentioned in different shows like in court killers the the quality of the The titters that we have in the the united states sometimes I am like, well, yes But if you only knew the the quality and obviously it's cheaper in here I am sending you in the chat one one one link for the sinapolis click Which is actually the digital offering and in there if roger could help us You will see that it's the what I was mentioning for 200 pesos which will be like 10 bucks in the united states You own the digital version of the justice league and you actually could get a Ticket to watch it. Oh wow, that's that's amazing Now do you have a lot of we're gonna have to move on here real quick, but one last question do you have a lot of TV streaming online services like we have with playstation view or sling tv Not really because uh, well, obviously we have some sort of of those services But still most of the people Rather have a roco and I believe that it was mentioned before That the one of the companies here in distribution, which was tele visa, which owns blim and Cablevision they actually have to sue uh and stop the distribution of the roco sticks here in mexico because A lot of people were looking for pirate content or I mean the the channels that were yeah, yeah They were using the pirated So that's the or let's say that's our version of the playstation view That's it's not exactly what sony would like to be compared to but I get what you're saying There is there is a role your own version that is the most popular there Well, excellent. 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Let's check in with chris christensen for some thoughts on international roaming service While you're traveling this is chris christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I just got back from the t-mobile office where my family and I switched to t-mobile and one of the reasons we did that Is they have a plan Where not only my saving money off my at&t family rates, but also When I travel internationally They have international roaming at a low speed not a high speed roaming But at least a little bit of data that I can get in a lot of different countries for no additional cost And so I finding that a lot of my travel blogger friends have also switched to t-mobile So that they don't necessarily have to get a sim when they go to a different country and yet can have connectivity So something you might look into if you travel a lot Even if you don't their rates are pretty good and worth looking at Especially if you're in the u.s. I'm chris christensen from amateur traveler Yeah, you do end up sometimes getting slower service But it is nice to just get off that plane and not have to worry about it and just connect by the way silver blade Says that cineplex in canada does a similar thing to cine police called a super ticket So you you get to watch the movie and get a download. That's interesting. All right. Let's check our mail bag What's in there sarah chris mercer lives in australia and says I've been listening to dtns About a year finally made the step up for patreon So thanks to you chris says it might have been even number five thousand or they're about because that's what it said When when he made his contribution Also, we were talking about time zones a little bit in the pre-show and this is kind of like a good story about a little bit in australia says The real benefit i'm gained from the show i'm in brisman australia So I get the podcast first thing in the morning from the previous day I listened to him on the way to work timing's really good my trip's about 25 minutes On the day that the equifax elite came out I heard it first from you guys my way to work It was great timing because I had a meeting with our digital team We started talking about our identity management tool set the tech lead for the area was talking about Through the current state and said something like and then we passed the details to equifax and then they validate the info At which point I had a minor heart attack and I began relaying the breaking news that I had Thanks to the show. I was able to talk specifics as well Luckily for us the australian equifax was historically a company called veda and had been bought recently by equifax And then rebranded so their systems were isolated and not affected a few hours of panic there though And then he says love the show. Hope my story helps convince people of the value Oh, thank you chris. That's very nice. And we're just going to pretend you were number 5000 uh for this point Absolutely, and it's cool. You know, it's cool to hear that even if you're getting What's technically yesterday's news? Ends up being really helpful for a meeting first thing in the morning But if you're in australia, you're living in tomorrow. So does that make it tomorrow's news? I guess How that works, I don't know Well folks, we are not here to ponder the intricacies of time travel We're here to bring you the tech news and we thank you for joining us and we thank dan cabos for joining us dan Uh, where can people find more of what you do online? Well, it's actually sure if they use follow me on twitter I appear as dan campos or if you want to practice your spanish or perhaps your english Use the search for churros y palomitas where we have uh talks with uh people who actually deal with uh Movie distributions as as we were talking before a film directors and uh recently with uh famous authors as tom merit Or even paul cornell which actually we had a great interview with him last week Excellent go check it out churros y palomitas Uh, is is there a url for it? churrosypalomitas.com.com Thank you. Gracias. 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Thank you dan All right, it was a pleasure. Sorry. Sorry if sometimes I kind of Mispronunciate things, but I guess it went okay. Oh, no, you're You're way too kind with my butchering of spanish So I am certainly not going to throw any stones at you because your pronunciation of english is quite good Thank you. Thank you very much Yeah, and this was a great this was a great interview. Uh, this was great talk And we hit on that unexpected thing about the super ticket uh type stuff, which I I didn't even know about And I to be quite honest I don't remember because I I remember that I was looking for different options to To illustrate how different are the the offerings in here But uh, it didn't came to my mind because it's like, I don't know something regular in my case. Yeah. Well, that's the thing sometimes you don't realize What's what's really cool about the thing you're familiar with because you're familiar with it? Well, what should we call this show roger? Or can you not unmute? There we go Cheater cheater epic eater flying hair gyres would still make noise mexican theaters Was intelligente must intelligente macOS copies windows 95 mom's epic rebuke epic lawsuit timeshare hair gyres mexican theaters innovate You got internet in my everywhere the Rolls Royce of airplanes Is in fact just I mean literally because it's partly made by Rolls Royce, right Uh uber ruins everything I don't know. I think mexican theater is must intelligente. Would it be Están teatros De mexico están más inteligente Actually, it should be well. Yeah, I get the point, but it will be seen it. Los sinis mexicanos son Most interesting son. Okay. Los sinis mexicanos son más inteligente I feel like like I am coaching on I don't know Dude, you're kind Uh, I've actually I'm actually good with that. What do you guys think? Yeah, I I think that's the clear winner So sinis have an accent And no, but uh more mass and you have an accent in the eight Los sinis mexicanos Son Mass with an accent So when would you use peliculus instead of sine? Uh peliculus refer to the actual movie and sine is like for the for the movie The theater would be like a play, right? Which was that that's correct. The theatres the theater in in this case Or the room the place I'm still kind of amazed so because I always use a faster playback speed on on my My pocket my podcast listening so it's like so this is how you actually sound Yeah, that happened to me. I was on uh This week in science with dr. Kiki and and Justin and Blair and I'm like, oh they're talking so slow It's just one of those things. Yeah, the the pauses feel more dramatic. Mm-hmm. Yeah Or drunken depending So what else is new We're gonna 20 minutes There was somebody uh in the ongoing saga of my apartment building. Uh, they're uh, the internet's mine Obviously, but oh right. Yeah, we didn't follow up on that. Yeah, we got that faxed. Um, but uh, the um There's a uh, it's sort of, you know, the building management, you know, he he does all the Work that needs to be done around the building and there's always something so he's he's around all the time But this morning he was like power washing the the roof Okay, and nobody lives above me So like the generator That was running the power washer Was right above where I like to sit and drink my coffee in the morning. Oh, yeah, and I mean It was like someone was jackhammering my ceiling, you know, it was one of the things you're like Ah, come on. I was so happy. I wasn't doing headlines this morning because it's like I have not concentrated but like I wouldn't have been able to record it in my house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Um, luckily it came and went but that was um, that's all I've got So, uh, you called Spectrum and they're like, oh Yeah, let me try something and then it fixed it, right? Right. So for anyone's curious I know a few of you very nicely asked me on twitter and slack and stuff like is everything okay with your internet And um, yes, it is right after the show yesterday You know, I kind of unplugged it, you know, waited 30 seconds a few more times and and um And I went over to my neighbors. Uh, he lives right next door to me. His internet was fine. So I was like I would be not an outage. So at that point I called spectrum got somebody on the phone And he goes, let me I think he act his actual words were let me try something on my end And then I got some hold music and then he came back and he was like How is it now? And I was like, oh Well the online lights on again. Thank you And that was it Oh, we accidentally disconnected you. Sorry. Isn't that weird? And it was I mean, I was happy that there I didn't have to be on the phone with him for more than five minutes No, sure, of course But uh, and I kind of felt silly like I just should have called in the beginning, but um It's also just concerning Well, you know what I forget because spectrum is time warner Yeah Here is that we have a listener. I'm not going to say their name So I don't get them in trouble or embarrass them either one, but uh, they they work in in They worked for time warner. So they now work for spectrum So if we ever have issues with that we can always ping them and make it some help on that end But it sound like I saw that note as well. Yeah, I mean, honestly, it was Just the weirdest most unfortunate timing considering that, you know, the show is 30 minutes long And this just happened to happen in that 30 minute window right in the middle of the show But but yeah, it's everything seems okay now. There's just too many toms. That's the that was what it was There were just too many toms on your modem. It couldn't We got greedy. We pushed it just a little too far and spectrum was like i'm not down with this We went with a dan today. Everything's fine Yeah Just just no. Yeah, when we when we when we overload the system I get kicked out right that doesn't seem fair It didn't well, but you know such as life Yeah, a series of tragedies Now wait a minute right before this always happens to me Uh, and it must be hilarious to people who are listening to the show and I can actually remember things farther than 30 minutes away Right before the show dan was saying something and I was like we should follow up on that after the show And now I can't remember what it was What was it time sounds no because that was like a close topic. I mean I don't I was actually it's not just me Let's see asked about buildings earthquakes Oh the switching of the plates on which days. Yeah, we were talking. We'd already kind of talked talked about that I felt like it was food related I just I could hear I can hear the people listening to this shouting what it was what these Well, we can improvise we can I don't know talk about food as It's one of the preferred topics It's certainly one of the frequent topics What's your uh, what's your favorite kind of food? Uh, one of the things that for example, um You can always have in here is tacos because you can have tacos of pretty much everything. Mm-hmm at anything Uh, there are some that it's uh, uh, shrimp tacos tacos Gobernador is how they are called here here in Mexico that are really tasty It sounds good. Yeah, it is taco tis day There you are We have um I'm gonna cause I'm gonna cause a fight somewhere by saying this I know we have better tacos in los angeles than san francisco San Francisco has better burritos though. San francisco has better burritos. I will not deny that kind of burrito If you don't your monster I remember we were george crow I do He used to he used to like be very negative. It's like, uh, you never got this in San Diego and san diego rice who puts rice in a burrito and Well, you don't have to you can say hold the rice which I often did because I wanted more of the good stuff So dan i'm curious in your opinion. What is a proper burrito? actually, it depends because uh The where they prefer the most it's at the north of the country. So you have Sonora styles and you have a chihuahua style and uh, depending on the era it can have either beans or rice And the kind of the floreto digital is so different. So I'm more partial to to two beans in my burrito And then I don't I don't know some some pork or something like that the cochinita. It's really good Is be is beans the sonoran or the chihuahuan style? I believe it's the Chihuahua if I'm not mistaken. Okay So then san francisco probably does the sonoran style is my guess The flour and rice that beans too, but but the is it the flour thing kind of a more recent Like introduction. I don't know like because the traditional The burritos weren't they all corn tortillas? And then only reached like within the past 20 25 years 30 years they were they flower they've always been flour as far as I remember no Actually, they have always been in flower if I if I work out correctly and Because that that kind of food actually originated at the north of the country in the rest of the country It was like we have burritos from the north or burritos norteños doing the reference of where the recipe came and At least I have been alive for 37 years and as far as I recall they have always been With floor tortillas Do you eat nachos? Ah, but now that you mentioned this is one discussion that I have with with a friend I record a different podcast with with her about social things and regular life and if you go the The cinnapolis teacher that that we were mentioning They have the the the base or the main offices are actually located in michua can And if you go to the cinema, uh, which is where the owner of the of the company goes They have a different kind of nachos Well, you know the tortilla chips that you use in regular nachos, but they use doritos nachos in there doritos And they test actually better and my friend She was in shock because she's from morelia and when she traveled To mexico city and she went to the movie theater. She was like I want some nachos And she was like these are not real nachos. Where are the doritos in this? It's something particular from the from you can only find it in that city in in morelia michua can interesting So supposedly nachos were created in 1943 For americans in northern mexico Just across over from eagle pass Or something it was piedras negras I feel like nachos Always seem like a good idea and rarely are They can be good, but they're usually bad It's because they tickle that part of your brain. That's very Where you're just like I just like the pile of the stuff You know, it's always looks so fun and then you're like this is soggy It's it appeals to the child in you right in the same way that an icy like I always like icies because I say Oh, I'm going to get an icy And then when I drink it's like I should have gotten an icy. It's way too sweet and I don't need all the sugar but it just triggers that Adolescent part of your brain are like, whoa, I totally want to eat that or I totally want to Yeah, I mean don't get me wrong. Good nachos are a wonderful experience I just find that more often than not I'm like, why did I get that? Now, uh What what are what is the most popular food in mexico city right now? If you if you had to guess Well, um, mexico city has a peculiarity and actually I am not I am actually from jaleesco But I have been living in the city for some time But uh, we usually joke because in mexico city you are To everything you put it inside bread you put it inside a bolillo Uh-huh torta de tamal with the cheese pretty much really popular in here But for people from outside mexico city, it's an aberration of nature Most most really good foods are at first considered an aberration until they catch on What about non? What about non-mexican food? Is there any is there any international food making inroads? Well, uh, japanese food is really popular and for example, I live next next door to a market And uh, they have a The japanese restaurant that it's inside. It's actually really good. So it's it always have a nice reception by Yeah, it's an audience I'm always fascinated when I travel to go to non regional Restaurants and and find the different takes like like the the italian restaurant in australia or you know Uh, that was never you know, I remember the one faster pasta And that was like it was like a combination of strings and the olive garden. That's just that's like it The weirdest one I ever went to was an italian Hong Kong restaurant in san francisco so the style of italian food that became Popular in hong kong somebody had decided to do that in san francisco. It was really really odd It's probably catering to what they thought people are Any hong kong expats would eat. Yeah. Yeah Like what's that one? There's that two guys. There's two americans That opened up a chinese Restaurant in beige or Shanghai, but it's chinese american. So it's like, you know, all this stuff. Yeah, interesting It does pretty well. You have taco bells in mexico. It's kind of the same thing, right? Taco bell tacos Actually, you have to What's that then they open a taco bell like 10 or 15 years ago in mexico city and it just went broke. Yeah, I'm sure Longer than three months It's not mexican food. That's that's the thing you have to remember about taco bell entirely It's barely food Oh stop It's it's I said barely it passes You can just you have to you have to navigate the menu carefully Just get the chicken if you want real meat. Just get whatever has chicken in it. Yeah I I actually have no opinion. It's been so long. I enjoyed taco bell quite a bit in my youth Well, that is it for us. Thanks everybody for watching patrons at the advisor level. Don't forget to go vote on the round table topic and Is there any was there anything else? Felt like there was something. 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