 that's in there on that album. But before then, Scobobbo was like, this my man, T.I., right? What that, that name? This like the homeboy, Joe John, so it don't ringer. So I look around, I'm like, yeah, what's up? Tips standin' there, you got the hat? You know, you definitely a motherfucker. I can't lie, the bravado was hell. I promise I still look at that. It still, it made me put my back up straight. Like, that is serious. This nigga, and I ain't sayin' this and trying to talk in hindsight to try to make it fit it. But I still didn't think he was no rapper cause he was too light-skinned for me. You see what I mean? I'm 22, I'm in a bed in the game. Y'all boss talk one on one, one on one. Here we gon' talk. How did you link up with T.I.B., I gotta ask you that, did I do that? When I first moved to Atlanta, back in 192. Y'all linked up, but it wasn't about, it was just the family hustle, you was on a lot of different stuff, right? Yeah, but this was before the end. What, how did you mean? This was for him in the magic city in the strip club. Oh, that's how I said that. Skowbubble, rest in peace Skowbubble. Skowbubble walked, this about like, this probably in 2001. This before Trap music and all that. I'm actually in that album, Trap music. My name is Ishten, that album. Comedian K.Dubb and Rollin' Pile, Lil' Duvall, Nard Host and Rest in Peace and Shawty Shawty, what my name? Shawty Shawty. I'm a folk comedian that's in that, on that album. On that album. But before then, Skowbubble like a, this my man T.I., right? What that, that name? Just like the homeboy, Joe John. So he don't ring a, so I look around, and I'm like, yeah, what's up? Tip stand there, you got the hat. You know, he definitely a motherfucking, I can't lie, the bravado was hell. I promise I still look at that. It still, it made me put my back up straight. Like, that is serious. This nigga, and I ain't saying this and trying to talk in hindsight to try to make it fit it, but I still didn't think he was no rapper because he was too light-skinned for me. You see what I mean? See, he ain't had light-skinned rappers back then. It didn't matter. He ain't like I respected him. He ain't like I gave, only light-skinned rappers I know and went out. Only light-skinned rappers I countin' like was goddamn Bone Thuds and Harmony, them more boys. Them up there movin' around, even though they had some darkened ones up in there, but no, no, no. We ain't gotta think about it. I didn't listen to New York music like that period. No man, I didn't listen to New York music until I moved to Atlanta. No New York music I had never heard of until I moved to Atlanta. Cause I just didn't hear of it. It didn't get a play here. He was boss talk too. This is my guy right there. He tellin' the truth. No, I ain't standin' cause of that. I'm tellin' you. No, I been tellin' you in my mind. I came up in Mississippi Memphis and me walkin' up down through there. I didn't hear none of that. Me with, yeah. I didn't hear none of that. I didn't hear, I didn't, I remember hard knock life cause my cousin, one of my friends played it. And I didn't know who sang it. I didn't know which one of the New York niggas was rappin'. I didn't know, I didn't really care. It didn't, it wasn't my thing. I was like in Scarface, I was like in Three Six Mafia, Player Fly, I was rockin' with Bone. I like Tupac, of course. I didn't care where he was from. Like, you know, I just liked anything that was coming, A-Ball and MJG. Yeah, yeah. So I had enough. Yeah. TMC? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he liked Ken, too. Yeah, but the thing is, he didn't talk like a life skit. And I really never saw him until later. No, no, it was consistent. The MJK albums, I didn't see them. I knew, I didn't know who they was, man. Selling dope and native, I didn't know who they were. Yeah, yeah. I just liked that voice and that little tone. If you was sayin', yo, put your, put your, put your, boy, shaw, shaw. That was New York to me. Yeah. It was all about that down time. It was all about that A-Ball and MJG. That's Garface, man. That's Garface was stupid. That was the first, that's Garface was the first rapper I ever learned the lyrics to. Yeah, Nick was stupid with it, man. First time I ever learned lyrics, but, but I think I might've got a hold in New York. I moved to Atlanta in July of 01. And they had, they had took over Atlanta. So when, when Jay-Z B with Nas, that was my first introduction to it for real. Who won it? Who won it, Bown? Well, you know, Nas won it. That's what I see! Nas is one of my top five favorite rappers. It ain't that I don't, like when I say real, I don't listen. I never did listen, but as I got older and ventured into it, I know what's what now. You can't, a New York person couldn't call me a dummy on the top, on the topic. Cause I picked it up in the last 20. Wow. That's hard, man. Like back to like, so when you and, you and Tim met, how do y'all maintain this relationship all these years? I think it, okay, let's go back to that. I met him, I looked at him, Skobubba said his T.I. shook his hand, he was a gentleman. I tell him, I can't say nothing bad about him to me. Yeah. Like, you really can't, it's nothing you could say about him. I say stuff about him all the time. I talk shit, but nobody got nothing to say about him. The nigga was a gentleman then, a gentleman now, same type of person. And I look behind him and see the damn girl from Escape. That's what made me be like, oh shit, this man must be getting something going on in the tokens. He got to have something going on. Cause you know, that was my fate. That was my little, little person from the group. You know what I mean? I was like, you know, but man, the man was so like, what they call him trying to find a word. He was more into it than I was. Indeed, I'm not trying to act like, yo, I honestly, he know me now. I honestly didn't, didn't give much of a fuck like that. Now, when we did get back together, I did look him in the eyes and it was like, yo, we got to work. Yeah. This is 2013, 14 after the jail a couple of times because in between dealing him from with 01 to about 03. Once he drove a van, man, Tip kind of like got out of that. He kind of got out of there. Yeah. He kind of went on a whirlwind. And I see him every now and then catch up with him. He was still that same gentleman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Out of there, mount up, go on. Yeah. Then in between, between 03, 03, I might have seen Tip twice. And then he got locked up. And then he got out and I might have seen him two times between 03 and 09. He did, you know, he went to jail two, three times. He got out, then he went back again. Went right back. Yeah. He did two, three different things that I know of in Atlanta that I know two, three different beats. And that last time he got out, I didn't see him no more. And I went out to Charlotte to do a comedy show. Okay. I was a semi-finalist. And while I was in a hotel trying to get a form, you know, you get them free from hotel. You got to fax the form and fill it out and take it to the front. I look at the one that saw security guard running by. It was 2013. I ran out there left the form and he was trying to buy in a park on the streets for that truck. Yeah. Man, like, where y'all going? I got that number because I hadn't been doing him for years outside of Tip. Got the number, met up with him at the strip club. Got the number and we're like, man, we got to work. It was 2013. I said, we got to work, man. I said, I know you been having your blah, blah, blah, but we got to work. Yeah. And it started then, man. So everything that's going on now is not no fluke at all. Not no fluke. Yeah, we on boss talk, one-on-one. One-on-one. Yeah, we going to talk. Yeah, we on boss talk, one-on-one. One-on-one. Yeah, we going to talk.