 No, no, it's okay. Now it's life. Okay. Well, like it stopped and then it would start it again. We See what happened what I think happened with the the Patrick Roger Tom Cashless was you were bringing up points that I felt were Already dealt with by the Sweden situation like sure that might be a concern, but it's not in Sweden but it's not in Sweden and we were trying to hurry up and get to the parts where Sweden did have the same concerns because it's like well, here's your test case and they don't have that problem and And it felt like we were discounting what you were saying At least that's what I was doing discounting Roger. Oh, it sounds like a nice name for a chain super market. Yeah Yeah, coverband anyway, we should we should cover we should address that one Patrick A lot of people were into the Yacht Rock talk No, I was surprised because it seemed like people wanted us to do more food People are also like until you tell them over yacht rock. Yeah food and Musical tastes very upsetting All right, you guys ready Yes, can I please also note while we're talking about musical days before we start that will be the base god blessed the Pittsburgh penguins and they seven goals in a shutout last night So please humble yourself before the base god. There you go Also asked people to send him money via PayPal this morning, so Base God also said we have to start the show. Okay There we go, right do Do you like listening to advertisements me neither want to help and support greatest directly then head to daily tech New show comm slash support and help us reach our new milestone today This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday April 12th 2018 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio Fila and I'm Sarah Lane and from Oglen, California. I'm Justin Robert Yeah, and with us as well is mr. Roger Chang our producer. How are you Roger? I'm good from my side of the San Fernando Valley Hmm is it how is it over there? It's quite nice yesterday was unsufferably hot and today. It's quite breezy Excellent. Well, let's start the show with a few tech things you should know Market analyst firm IDC says that PC shipments were flat during the first quarter Supported by business sales now globally PC deliveries were unchanged in the first three months of the year compared with the year earlier With HP leading sales in a separate report research firm Gartner said it found global shipments declined 1.4% in the period Amazon announced Thursday that its acquisition of ring has been completed Amazon says ring will remain independent with all of its employees on board Amazon also said that the price of the least Expensive ring doorbell will be permanently lowered to a hundred dollars Chris Sources tell Reuters that Walmart is likely to reach a deal to acquire a majority stake in India's flipkart by the end of June Indian media report Amazon's preparing a counter offer Why is everybody fighting over flipkart? Well flipkart controls nearly 40% of India's online retail market Sources tell Bloomberg that because of lagging sales for the home pod Apple lowered sales forecast and cut some orders within ventecorp Which is one of home pods manufacturers the home pods first 10 weeks of sales gave it 10% of the smart speaker market to put it into perspective 73% is what Amazon's echo device has and 14% for the Google home. This is according to slice intelligence And had said such a haunted history with their speakers that all of them should come preloaded with those Halloween records That are just spooky sounds and All right, let's let's talk about Disney's big launch Take it away Justin Robert young ESPN launched ESPN plus Thursday a $4 and 99 cent per month subscription service built into ESPN's redesigned app for Android iOS Apple TV Chromecast Fire TV and the web the service promises to deliver thousands of hours of live soccer boxing golf tennis rugby cricket and college sports to subscribers Also doing an MLB game a day So similar to what Facebook gets I think that's how ESPN's doing this Because I was curious. I'm like, wait a minute ESPN carries like you know Thursday night baseball Wednesday night baseball Sunday night baseball They're getting a digital deal and they're getting a digital deal with the NHL for next season as well So they'll have a game a day of hockey next season The the leagues are doing these sorts of digital deals with Facebook and Twitter Sure, and ESPN plus we forget we think of it as a cable But ESPN plus is a digital service, so they're gonna get that as well So they get to say we have the big names MLB and NHL and then most of the stuff is this I actually think it's its biggest value and I see them promoting this is the back catalog of non-event stuff 30 for 30 Bryant Gumbel etc. Yeah, the 30 for 30 stuff. There's also some Kobe Bryant is hosting a new show. It's it's It seems to be the sort of thing where for $5 a month if you really want You know a lot of these extras. I don't know I mean if you're a big rugby fan, sure Maybe this is the best way to do this because it's not going to be echoing Sports Center or anything that you already know ESPN to be it's extra stuff, but they're also bundling in some Legacy content for example the OJ Simpson Series, which is you know, so it's like, okay. All right. I get it. It's sort of ESPN's YouTube bread Here's where I think I this is brilliant. They are doing what Twitter should have done and still should do What your relationship with that ESPN app for most people is that it hits you with an alert when a game's close or your your team's About to win what they want to do and scaling up from when they when this Fox acquisition goes through and now they have more of a leeway to be able to Control the the networks that will feed things like baseball and hockey and basketball They want you to have more and more of an escalating relationship with when you click that Alert that you are able to see that game. It's why they are adding add-ons for NHL and for For the NHL and Major League Baseball now you can buy a subscription to their service through the ESPN plus app I think 499 is an interesting price point. We haven't seen a lot of these Services that low But I think this is what Really an app should be I should want when I'm alerted I should be able to go watch it if I want and Disney flex in its muscles with its majority interest in bam tech The former major league baseball advanced media Streaming service dry run for future services like this It's all it's all experimental and and when you've got something that's kind of an add on five dollars makes sense Jeremy Fleming director of the uk's gchq said his agency worked with the ministry of defense to conduct cyber attacks against Islamic state last year the attacks disrupted communications and propaganda infrastructure Fleming said it was quote The first time the uk has systematically and persistently degraded in adversaries online efforts as part of a wider military campaign Fleming said other operations might quote look to deny service Disrupt a specific online activity to turn individual or a group or perhaps destroy equipment and networks Now uk is not the only one doing this the u.s. Has talked about this with their cyber command as well Uh, and I'm sure uh, there are plenty of efforts underway But this is the latest one to talk about it and I thought it was an interesting news hook for this idea that instead of People from intelligence agencies getting up and saying hey, can we have more legislation? Can we have backdoors to encryption? Can we do more surveillance? Uh, they're saying hey, this is the thing We're actually doing that. We didn't need you to change anything for and we found and it appears to have been effective Exploiting the apparent lack of icis's it department Well, you say that Uh, but they have a very robust it department. Uh, there just hadn't been a sophisticated coordinated attack against them anonymous declared that they were going after icis and found that it was not as easy as As a a disorganized group without an it department. They were pretty sophisticated Uh, well good get them boys Yeah, well, and so you guys it doesn't it sound like you guys are even blinking at this that the idea of the government Going out, uh and saying we are we are going to do what hackers do we're going to disrupt nile of service attacks Uh break in et cetera That's all good, right? I think this this is the future right? I mean this is this isn't the future This is the present this this is how you can uh with with relatively little cost, uh disrupt a major Operation throughout the world. Absolutely. Yeah, the only thing that really I don't know resonates with me is not that this is happening. It's that they said we did this Here's how we did this here the you know the the effects from us us doing this You don't really hear that You know in the in the uh in this realm very often Yeah, you don't hear people talking about the side of things and granted they didn't go into details They don't want to divulge their their operations manual and that that's understandable Uh, but I know it even though in this case. I think we all probably agree that this is someone that we want you to get Uh, this is the kind of thing that intelligence agencies can use for good or ill And there's no there's there's no supervise. Yeah, or I shouldn't say there's no is the supervisory apparatus For conducting cyber warfare sufficient. That's the question Yeah, I mean we will hopefully be holding them to the same standard that we hold our own military and and obviously there is a a Tremendous conversation that has gone on for as long as the country's been alive about what the military is allowed to do to its own citizens Snap is testing a commerce function with some snapchat discover publisher channels This is uh, according to bloomberg who has sources who tell it this the feature let some Discover publishers add an option for users to swipe up and then buy a product that maybe I would put into my snap story From the recently launched store including uh inside discover which also offers snapchat merchandise like sweatshirts and hats Snap is reportedly not taking any of the revenue Generated from sales at least right now. So justin are you going to buy kylee Jenner's lip kit? Yeah, this Is she back uh on snapchat? I mean, I don't know. That's like the only that's the only person I could think of who would be like Who would sell something on snapchat? I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe dj collard sweatpants or something bad Yeah I don't hate this idea. I I know listen If if if I was following somebody and you know, this is kind of hypothetical But like if I'm following somebody and I really like their life And they've got something to sell and there's an easy way for me to buy it You know somebody's wearing you know shoes that I might like or or whatever it is Okay, if this is a Fairly seamless way to do so Okay The fact that snap would not take a cut of this Um says to me they're just trying to figure out if this is even anything anybody wants and they probably will do so in the future They want to get people in the door to set up stores that snap Snap wants to strike while the iron is propped up on a cushion in front of the u.s. Congress. They are Happily Going to publishers who are upset with facebook for many reasons Uh and most of them having to do with monetization and saying here sell things fine Go for it. We'll give you new ad units. You can do branded content as ad units We'll do whatever you want. You get to keep all the money for now Uh, it's only good enough of you doing this Uh, certainly so and I don't know I I have More of a interest in seeing digital goods sold this way on snap for me personally Then having yet another place that I got to remember Which credit card I have on file with them and whether or not it's my address and not the other address Or that one time that I got it sent to my work and now I got to change that because I don't work there anymore Uh, that's that that would those are things that go through my head whenever somebody offers me a Super easy way to buy a thing right now Yeah, and snap doesn't have As much information on you. Um, but you know to conduct merchant transactions They they just need a little bit anybody could do it. So I I think the weirdest thing is This idea of the branded content that they're talking about where everything's so short on snapchat And yet apparently it's effective because they're they're selling ads and they're creating these these new ad units For people and and i'm putting some rules around them. But it's uh, it's definitely things snap needs to do to stay competitive and make money The u.s national transportation safety board says it's removing tesla as a party in the investigation After tesla disclosed march 30th that autopilot was engaged in the crash that killed walter hong Losing party status means that tesla is no longer able to provide technical assistance to the ntsb As the ntsb notes having party status is a privilege that enables two-way Information sharing tesla says it voluntarily would true because it didn't want to be restricted over what it can say tesla is being sued by huang's family who say that he uh, that He complained previously that the car's autopilot pulled him toward the divider he crashed into tesla has said publicly that this shows huang knew of the danger and yet engaged in it anyway Wow, is tesla not being what you would expect from a a company looking for good pr in this situation Seriously, I mean To the point that they're like not only are we going to say things but we're going to say them to the point that the ntsb kicks us off The investigation that that doesn't happen Generally car companies don't want to say anything generally car companies use the investigation as a shield like hey We'd like to say more but you know ntsb. They don't like us to do that. So we're going to wait till the investigation's over tesla doing the opposite and when The family says hey, you know, he told us many times that right at that place where he crashed and died He noticed the car in autopilot taken him towards there tesla comes and spins it around on them and says yeah Well, then he shouldn't have had autopilot on should he uh, and granted we're not quoting them directly They they were more sensitive than i'm making it sound right now. They said look, you know, we we feel for the family We we you know, they they said all the right things But they did say and so he shouldn't have had autopilot We think this is not a failure of autopilot that it is the responsibility of the driver Well, where this is very consistent with tesla is they battle aggressively with pr Right, they want to get their message out and they believe that when they percent their side of the facts it will be rich enough in Detail and with enough scientific rigor that people will believe it and that possibly it is a Problem for them to have it mitigated by the ntsb or to be a party of whatever the ntsb comes back with in this investigation and Man, you're you're right It doesn't exactly endear people when the headline is car company attacks family grieving family But or at least you know attacks the character of the man who left the grieving family But it is fairly consistent that uh, tesla does not want anybody else to dilute their message They want to talk as much as possible Sarah did you have something to add? Well, I I just you know, it's it's sort of like, okay ntsb says tesla no longer has you know party status to provide technical support for this for this issue for this incident, but tesla's The best company to do that It's it's confusing to me where it's like tesla has been you know removed from the situation But who who else is going to you know sort of connect the dots here? I would wonder whether or not all the things that tesla has to share has been shared at this point Well, and that's a good point sarah. They still have to comply with anything the ntsb asks of them They just don't get to be in there in the room Helping to guide the investigation I guess Yeah, it's just odd. Yeah So Reuters had a really interesting story about sung eel high tech South korea's largest battery recycler taking lithium ion batteries from old mobile phones and laptops and extracting cobalt lithium and other scarce mostly rare earth metals This is a company that used to take gold and silver out of plasma tv's But you know not a lot of plasma tv's anymore So they're shifting gears and this is a trend happening in a lot of recycling companies Yee kong yang sung eel high tech's president said the shortage of mined metals had led his company to boost capacity three times By 2019 and it plans to list publicly in 2020 and the other background information here If you haven't been following this along with us Rare earth metals are getting rarer on the ground and china Which has the largest consumers of them with the factories that make electronics has been locking up the few mines that are productive especially in the republic of the congo So, you know laymen question here What would be wrong with basically recycling old phones and the other devices that people aren't using anyway To get a little bit more out of these rare earth metals that we need for future phones. Nothing There's nothing wrong with that at all. This is just something that wasn't cost effective until now and and I think one of the reasons Reuters did this story on it is Having it done in korea means that lg samsung etc can Benefit by not having to import they don't have to I mean china is going to be the dominant supplier of these rare earth metals Because it's locking up rights to most of the mines So it's expensive to import them from china if Sungiel high tech and a few of the other recycling companies out there Can start supplying them in country. That's better for korean industry And it's just a general trend where these recycling companies have focused on precious metals in the past and they're shifting Now to saying you know what it makes sense the price of these is is is starting to pan out There's enough of these batteries out there That will have no end of supply That we could start recycling them instead of sending them into a landfill worth mentioning if we can take a brief traipse into the political realm that uh, the current negotiations high profile though They might be that flirt with the idea of a trade war between the united states and china It has been speculated that the ultimate trump card if everybody is is each putting their own Uh tariffs on the table would be china's Dominance in rare earth metals that that that is the one thing That is very very very very important in in the modern economy and there is really no answer for it They they have market cornered on it and I will hazard to say that despite the name rare earth metals Is really only rare because those metals do not exist in uh in the quantities where like or like gold ore Where you can find a huge deposit in one chunk you have to sift through a lot of Sand and rock to get any usable amount factors. Uh, they used to have a mining operation out here in california And they had to shut it down because the epa said that the amount of Toxic chemicals that the the the operation was leaching was considered hazardous So it could well be one of those things where if technology to mitigate a lot of those issues or Improves the mining so it isn't as hazardous to the environment and people Could very well see an upswing as money goes into that sort of investment as well Yeah, I mean to give you an example of the amounts we're talking about just from recycling batteries Which is less than you would get from a mine sung l says it can produce 830 tons of lithium phosphate A thousand tons of cobalt metal equivalent and 600 tons of nickel a year And that those are the numbers that we were mentioning. They hope to triple by the end of 2019 Going back to transportation uber announced it will start doing annual criminal background checks on us drivers And hire a company to monitor those criminal arrests Either past or future uber is also entering new safety features inside its app to let riders call 9-1-1 in an emergency And also making it easier for riders to share their whereabouts to friends and families while they're in a ride uber CEO dara car So shahashi, I always get that wrong because we're shahi said that his company's aggressive scaling Prevented steps like annual background checks from being done sooner. This of course was before he was CEO Says now I can't change the past but I can change the things that we're going to do going forward Yeah uber also won a court case over the uber black service Not as great as it sounds uber black is the limo service and they're saying oh limo drivers are freelancers But I don't know it feels like the tide is turning For uber under dara kosar shahi and he's out there doing his charm offensive, uh, you know this 9-1-1 emergency call Easier for them to implement since they have implemented it in other markets. They were forced to implement it in india As well as a few other places So, you know, this is the kind of thing that's an easy win because they're like well We already have some code that we can probably transport the us And then I can go on the today show or good morning america or whatever and say like hey Here's what we're going to do for you guys Even though there wasn't public pressure to do it smart moves. I think And why did travis need to be booted? Because another person doing it makes it seem different than if he did and with an ipo looming That is something very very very important Oh, yeah, that's another part of this right? I mean they need to make investors feel comfortable that oh things are steady They're stabilizing. We got a new steady hand at the helm. Yes, you know, it's funny that Introing something like now you can call 911 if you're about to be murdered in the back of your uber people are like You know, that's that's insane but There are enough instances right that has become a pr nightmare for uber among other things That yeah, this is the goodwill measure A safety measure that that that has legs For sure, but definitely a uber is now, you know, a kinder company than we used to be in the past We're not all about scaling and growth. We're about, you know keeping people safe and You know for a lot of people, especially I don't know my mother who's you know takes uber to and from my house from the airport and still is like You know, where do I go? What do I do? How's this work? The those are the people that need to be convinced that this is safe and you know, these these measures actually make sense Yeah, this is the flotation device from the airplane, right? You're probably not going to need it But good to know it's there just in case you do right? Same thing And to be honest it is proactive in that Oh, look what this is going to be here instead of the the line from uber being well, whatever Just go to your phone and hit 9-1-1. If you're if you have mobile data, you know, you're probably connected What's the deal? It's an emergency. Do you know how to deal with it? Come on. Yeah. Geez. Who cares? Whatever. This is we're not 9-1-1 for uber You want us to drive the car for you too? Oh wait, we have that plan never mind All right, folks If you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines available on the amazon echo as a flash briefing in your google home device Also in the anchor app, but of course you can find it as a good old-fashioned podcast at dailytechheadlines.com Got some good stuff in the mail bag today. Yes, we did this one comes from norm but we definitely we we we we got a lot of feedback about the idea of Of of cash. Do we want cash? Is it cashless society? Even a thing that we should be working towards? This is a conversation about sweden Anyway norm says I was listening to your discussion on the cashless society on my way back to norway from las vegas I travel on a semi regular basis to the us and back I'm increasingly annoyed by the us dependency on cash in norway I never carry cash. I don't believe any of my friends do either off to check But I also believe my parents they're you know in their 70s. They're cashless They might have some cash due to old habits, but they have no problem living cashless Roger's point of the government knowing what you spend your money on Isn't that relevant as all banks are privately owned if you trust them with your money mortgage and insurance It's not really a huge step in showing them to know that I buy a chocolate bar every friday cashless and contact free Roger, what do you say? Well, uh, no, I mean norm brings up a good point I will add it's a little disingenuous used argument that the government doesn't know what you spend because part of The government's job is to collect taxes and to be able to tax you the amount They need to know the amount that was spent and typically with mortgages anything that Above a certain amount the government knows because the bank or finance institution needs to file On that in order to say we lost money or we made money Um, and also one of the big reasons why cashless is such a big thing for governments is one reduces overhead But more importantly allows them to track where money goes so they can crack down on tax avoidance and black market So people basically working or operating outside of the tax regimen of the local government So that gst sales tax, uh, whatever And also it's it's very interesting to point out that in a financial Preparedness sense for example in a disaster emergency The u.s. Government actually recommends People carry a small amount of cash stored ready to go Quote concerning saving money in an emergency In a savings account could be used in any crisis keep a small amount of cash at home in a safe place It is important to have small bills on hand because atms credit cards may not work during a disaster When you need to purchase necessary supplies fuel or food So it's not to say that don't go cashless. It's that with cashless. You need to be aware of Uh, uh, certain things but also just you know, phasing out currency As as a byproduct also needs some thought as well to to take a taking to consideration all these additional things Now miss music teacher also wrote in not about cashless Uh, wanted to share after listening to the pre and post show for band cashless My hyper political tech challenged 78 year old mother watched the senate hearings with mr. Zuckerberg She thought he did a good job answering questions minus the witch hotel question and was overall impressed However, she shut me down as soon as I tried to explain that most of the problem was lack of personal responsibility for allowing your data to be shared I laughed and said there you go the difference between tech nerds and the rest of the world that uses facebook She simply sighed granted This is the woman who called me last week to fix the tv input so she could watch cable while I was on a caribbean cruise So take her opinion with a grain of sea salt Thank you. Miss music teacher Good anecdote there And I think representative of the difference between a lot of people in our audience and our attitudes towards something like facebook And the general populace who feels like no it's facebook shouldn't do that I don't care if I had control of it And thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You could submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show reddit.com And of course we have a facebook group We haven't gotten rid of it yet because people in there are still using it You can go to facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show to find out what they're saying In fact people were discussing whether they had been implicated in the cambridge analytic elite good conversations going on And also thanks to justin rubber young twice in one week Once that happened man, well, I'll tell you what you better get ready because it's gonna happen next week too. So, uh, It's always uh, always enjoyed two weeks in two weeks rogers like actually Two weeks actually two weeks. Okay. Sorry about that. Well, actually. Hey, but uh, okay So that's fine. Uh, where do people follow what you're doing until then? Uh, well, you can go ahead and follow my political newsletter tiny letter dot com slash justin robert young It's usually about five to six links. Uh, you can read through it really quick It's uh, I think a fun way to keep up on politics that doesn't drive you nuts And you can find me on twitter at justin r young where I was informed today by my mother That she would like for me to share the listing for her house. She's selling The house that I grew up in on my twitter Hey, justin we're selling your childhood home. Could you list it on twitter? Yes, so this is This is in florida. This is in davie florida. So I don't know if this has ever been done a first for daily tech news show But if you would love a home with a tremendous, uh, master bedroom two other bedrooms, uh, uh, Right there on 595 In lovely davie florida next to nova southeastern This is the house for you head on over to my twitter account at justin r young for all the detail My question to you is why don't you buy it justin? Uh, because considering the amount of money that i'm gonna have to pay to the federal government for my tech Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. I hear that brother I would love nothing more than the amount of money that I have to pay for my taxes could be a lovely down payment on my childhood home But uh, unfortunately that that isn't in the cards All right, folks. 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Oh, that's that's a florida florida staple the flanigans. Oh, I've never heard of flanigans Uh, it's a it sounds like an irish bar. It's not it's actually, uh, uh, what's his butt themed hemmingway? What themed yeah They're just whiskey and violence one Yeah, no, it's not themed. I mean, but it is it's basically a lot of a lot of like Come in for our two shots at a punch of the face special at flanigans not untrue really flanigans is known mostly in florida because Uh, they serve all their drinks in gigantic cream cups They are I hate it already. Is it like a benign? catnip for dads there was not a home in florida That did not have 50 Gigantic flanigans cups because dad can't get enough of it's just free cups. Why are we gonna? Why are we gonna leave free cups right here on on the table? Can we please add something to the dt dtns store that says catnip for dads catnip for If we can get cheap green cups, we should do our own knockoff. I mean I it's not a it's not a flanigans cup, but you know, there's nothing wrong with keeping cheap plastic cups Well, you could have like Sure Look at you. All right. If we could get green solo cups. We could just put dtns or no, we could put uh catnip for dads That's still funny. That's one of the funniest things flanigans. Now we have to go road trip So wait, was this the house you were born and raised in not born but certainly raised Uh, yeah, I moved there coming out of middle school. So I started at a new high school It is in the district of south plantation high school But uh, it's also right next to nova, which is an invite An invite only school that my brother attended Justin was born in a log cabin and what was then known as pens woods Well, wait a second your brother got into nova but you did not or you didn't want to or what's going on? I did not apply Okay Because at the point that I would have had to apply we were not close to it But I said Eric was going to apply we were close to it So it made a little bit more sense than I would be getting Uh, wait, was it is it like a jesuit school? Like what what why I actually don't know Is it a magnet school? It wasn't a magnet school because I went to magnet schools through my middle school Let's see nova middle school Yeah, when I went to high school, I was trying to decide. Well, should I go to greenville high school or not? So it I was like, do I drop out or do I go to the high school? Should I be truant? Those are my choices Uh, I I'm not I'm not positive exactly what it is in terms of I know it's not religion. It is just okay It's just a private school. It is affiliated with the college that is right next to it. That is be a law and uh business school program and now has become Uh, a fairly uh, you know, it's really kind of blown up Yeah offer In bond county a magnet school meant mr. Young's physics lab Yeah, I I still don't know what a magnet school is. Oh a magnet school is at least it was in brown county, uh A school that offered a specific kind of Curriculum. Oh, okay went to I would call that a vocational school and it would well and in the magnet if I if I have this right the magnet Amit meant it would draw from multiple districts. Yes Yes, specifically It would draw high income high tax higher tax bracket kids to lower Tax bracket school. Okay, so that you would have a higher level of education for the lower income as well as the higher Yeah, got it. Okay kids that were there would get a chance to go to these programs or get you know be involved in these programs Uh, and the school would get the tax money that would come along Yeah kids because chip and buffy's parents could afford to have them go the longer distance to the to the vocational Oriented school not vocational, but but like it was like school that would help them get into college Yeah, it was like one class extra that you would do It was also a tremendous recipe to get beat up Oh, man. Was it a great one going to the magnet school? Yeah Yeah in school or getting like you're just like nerdy and like well, yeah, you get busted out to uh, uh A school that you know, uh, you're you're yeah without without getting too specific Some people would think that you don't belong now Who the magnet kids were and and who? Who the rest? Uh, it sounds like my junior high. I got I got into fights off through six Roger got into fights. I can imagine you fighting. I went to a quote-unquote Inner urban school Even though it's in a really nice neighborhood, but um What are we calling this? Uh, I was thinking a rare stone rare earth not rare stones rare earth medals Um, disney launches espn 8 the ocho That's uh, that's the problem is we kind of played fast and loose with the term rare earth I mean lithium and nickel are not rare earth um I don't I like I like doing something around The metals This episode's so metal Rare earth cycling Like rare earth You put they put parentheses But uh fred did rare earth cycling like recycling they're trying if you look at it He's trying to say yeah, I see it works really well in print. Yes, we can do that one I like it. All right. I like that one It's good stuff. Sweet Done Recycling legs Well, no, I'm like I'm kind of bummed that I never had a magnet school to think about You know, well you go through the same school that or you had the same classmates all through like great school and junior high and high school Oh my my Yes, but My high school is actually quite large just because the area was so big like kids from like 20 miles away had to go to the high school Yeah, so there were several different junior highs that all sort of funneled into the same high school. You could do that You could go to the walder of school Which is a private school. Yeah, here you go And you go to walder of or you could um, there was a catholic school. There was a girl's school and a boy's school I think the girl's school burned down in the fire recently, but um But you could do you could do that um And some people's parents sort of you know made them go to the catholic school because it was I don't know better than the public school But most of us just went to the one highs there. There was really just one high school Uh, I had two high schools, but it shouldn't have Uh, I have a tremendous and embarrassing confession to make. Okay I Believed that flanigans was earnest Hemingway themed. It is not it is just themed for its owner Joseph big daddy flanigan Who happened to also just be a fat guy with a beer that liked to fish Okay, so he was just Like Hemingway themed like that's so specific It just well, I mean the green cups and the dads and the there's a lot of There's a lot of stuff in in south florida because the Hemingway's relationship with the west that is uh, that's like There's a hidden way kind of vibe. Right. Right. It like he gets in there But no no mr. Flanigan mod of flanigans Make the flanigan founded big daddy's liquor store chain in 1959 Uh, that was the first drive through liquor store that I ever saw in my entire life Uh down on 441 and also Uh founded the quarter deck, uh chain, which is another uh south florida What's what's that quarter deck basically imagine So since I've just explained flanigans to you like that but instead of it being 75 Like a family friendly kind of restaurant with a little bit of a bar Uh, it is 75 percent of a bar and 25 percent of a kind of family friendly. I love florida Yeah, I mean what is not to like Wonderful to worry about uh flooding during the hurricane season in that house Oh, I mean, that's all of florida's, you know used to batten down the hatches and uh, the thing about quarter deck that used to be fun was uh They had rocking chairs. So it was like a Bench like basically like you and six friends could sit down And the entire thing would sort of sway Back and forth, which they eventually had to take out because people kept getting drunk breaking them Upon uh, how he got the name big daddy. Mr. Flanigan earned the name big daddy from his two daughters Paul Flanigan said he'd asked them. Who's the best daddy and they'd say big daddy Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, that's kind of weird. That's like a story. I don't need to hear Mr. Flanigan, let's just Spare me that one. Yeah, I also It's you big daddy It's creepy Yeah No, thanks By the way, only only died. This is from his son sentinel obituary died in 2005 Was he how physically big was he? Was he just like 250 pound guy with a big beard? Like you have to literally just google his face is on the flanigan's cups So if you just google flanigan's cups, you will find a picture of joseph big daddy flanigan cat nip for dad's All joe flanigan big daddy There was a restaurant we used to eat at in Vancouver that this is reminding me of And i'm wondering if it's either a flanigans or a ripoff Of of that Like an old flanities I Wonder if you can just buy flanigans cups Well, that doesn't seem like that would be fair. You gotta go Yeah, he's not big at all. It's not a physically imposing man. Well big daddy doesn't mean physically big daddy. It just means like big You know He's uh, you know his spirit is big And again in florida Oh, and also by the way the number one result when you google flanigans cups Is a review for the flanigans restaurant where the headline is big cups It's so good Oh, look at big daddy. Okay I love how if you look up the flanigans menu online, it says in no uncertain terms Do not ask us to modify substitute or alter our menu items Wow Okay Good to know before I go in and I and I look at the menu online I Visit big daddy's liquors. Yeah, this is my kind of place Oh again drive-thru They won't serve you like an open container out of the drive-thru like they will in texas But uh, they will you could definitely just roll in So, okay, so just because the drive-thru liquor store is I don't Get it. Yeah in texas. Yeah, you could go to the drive-thru liquor store Get liquor and drink it as as long as you're not driving Yes, and you're sitting in the car I You know, it might be texas or another state, but I know that there are states in which you can open containers for passengers or not the driver Texas used to be like that when I first moved there. I thought they changed it I thought at one point they they got rid of that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know I'm asking It also When I was there and I was like, yeah, you can't do that anymore That's a license to get out of every open container, right? If you just have a have a patse on you and then you can just hand that here Well, yeah, that was the thing, right? You just hand it to the person next to you Yeah, this it seems like a really bad idea. Although. Well, so, um, Certain cities, Las Vegas. I don't know about all of Nevada, but Las Vegas, New Orleans You know, you can have an open container on the street Yes, uh, South Florida weird to me too. Yeah, South Florida also has a Uh, open containers in in down in I don't know by by the beach It gets a little restrictive because they don't want trash. Yeah, too much But out in downtown Fort Lauderdale. Yeah, in fact, that's usually when I I When I go out in two places, I'll oftentimes walk out with an open container and people will yell at me I'll just tell them calm down if the police ask me. I'll just tell them I'm from Florida My town is not dry anymore, but growing up. It was a dry town So you couldn't have an open container in in fair town in your own home. You could not oh inside your house You could yeah, just out in public. I see Yeah, so I remember went to a restaurant like you wouldn't get a beer Oh, yeah, no, they were not allowed to Wow, that's the only the only drinks you could get were at the bowling alley, which was right outside the city limits Uh, or scott's package liquor store, which was also outside the city limits But you could buy your beer your wine and then dry, you know, take a and and the reason it was a dry town is because some I don't know politician a long time ago was a tea totaler like what? You know, how's that how's that work? It was mostly because of the free Methodist church was was pretty dominant and they uh, and they ran greenville college Which is now greenville university and they they you know, I think it went back to the 20s when they're like Well, we're staying dry for gay. I don't care if the rest of the u.s. Is sure Apparently there is a walkthrough of this of my My house my my childhood. Um, wow now that I I want to see it. Uh, does it have any memorials? It's a slideshow And one of the pictures is of my old room That has turned into an office. Oh, I see it pictures on the wall Oh There's pictures of you on the wall pictures of me on the wall. Yeah Can I share this to the audience? Yeah, he's trying to sell the house. Yes. Tell this house, baby Um, but what is this part like staging is like Justin's like Childhood photos People know like this would be a child's room In that in that photo uh go back Roger Uh the top left That is the first article. No, the very very top left of the of the picture Is a framed copy of the first article I ever had published in uh, that's great. It was a music review for Uh, I forget which whatever the red hot chili peppers album was with uh, oh, that's I don't know what but the one when they had their big kind of like comeback and they became like relevant again Okay. Yeah in the showtime section of the Sun Sentinel the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel That is Just adorable. Oh, baby. Look at this cute house It's a oh my mom if you don't buy it, I'm going to look at that pantry Oh, yeah, no big walk-in pantry. Yeah, what's the uh, what's the uh, what's the uh, what's the list of that? uh, it is uh at a at a A crisp 299 Whoa, whoa I thought you were gonna say like two million Whoa, this is nice It's like an alien garden. Why don't we all live there? Let's just buy it and I'll live there You guys will live in Justin's childhood home new patreon milestone everybody Is this pull part of it or is this the It is in a condo and that is a communal pool that I have Uh, hopped that fence so many times Uh, I I I think that you come with Whoever buys the house just know that I will be walking by your new house and hopping that fence Um, I mean it's beautiful like I I need to be reminded that not everything is You know, san francisco slash western la prices Yo, yeah, no totally like wow like that's a nice house This would go $300,000. Yeah, if if this were in Any of the places that we are, uh, it would probably cost, you know, four million dollars Exactly. Yeah, when you said two, I was like, yeah, two points. It's not a condo It is a condo. Oh, it is. This is a condo. Yeah, it's just a big one like a townhouse tonic kind of thing It's a row. It's a row of those houses And it's connected to other units, but this is the biggest version of that. Yeah, okay So it's it's it's almost standalone It's it's it's what like I would say like as a duplex like condo I think of like a high rise or whatever, but like, yeah Yeah, maybe townhouse might be the better way to the better way Uh, instead of condo. All right guys pack up. We're moving to florida Here we go. Dave bedrooms one for sarah one for me one for roger. That's right Yeah, so it was like Is there ever a danger of like gators and stuff showing up on the front lawn? No gators. We're we're pretty far off of the everglades, although you never really know a south florida thing crazy things happen all the time, but Uh, no, you're pretty much out of the woods as far as uh As far as in crawlies life goes I love florida Big florida fan, so I need to I I really We we kind of did a little bit of a deep dive into our finances to see whether or not swinging this was going to be a thing Uh Because I really I wanted to just use it as like an airbnb like just to kind of Yeah, yeah, yeah Of course But it is a lot like me it would be a lot to take care of I would I would it would kind of come with somebody being hired to sort of like Yeah property, which is just too much of a hassle. Yeah, a friend of mine actually Lives she's american, but she now lives in um The netherlands and has a place in park city, utah Real real nice place and she has had to hire a management company to like just like because she's like i'm so far I'm like if anything goes wrong. I'm not showing up and it's not inexpensive Well, they take a cut of your of the rent and tip it and it's not a Small amount. It's it's a significant. It's a lot. Yeah, it's it's the convenience of not having to deal with it Oh, yeah, it's the convenience But also if you're planning on like, you know, I'm gonna hold this property for 10 20 years and sell it I mean it could make sense because you're still drawing income from it, but um Also, they will end up getting more for the house than you will Yeah, so so you have to figure that in too is like, you know I'm at least for me. I maybe if you're a good negotiator It's different but I I will not be good at that But a management company will always get the maximum amount that they can get if they're right good. Anyway, yeah All right, uh, well, thank you folks for joining us And uh, we'll see you tomorrow with Shannon Morse and Len Peralta. Mm-hmm