 So now we are going to have a panel discussion, which is very interesting and very interesting format. So the panel discussion is going to have tech for good, build the world you want to live in as the topic. And the two hosts are Alexis and Romain. And I'm going to hand over to them. We're going to have a few short talks. So I'm going to play video J here and then switch between the different talks. So I hope I get everything right. Let's see how this goes. So off you go. All right, thank you. All right, hello everyone. We're very excited to have you here for a kind of a special session during the Python. My name is Romain from Numburli. And at Numburli, Python is basically at the art of everything of our very own little tech world. And we're very proud to stand by the community, this great community around Python, and all Python that we're part of. At Numburli, we've been sponsoring our Python every year since 2014. And since we've been offered this sponsor talk, we thought about doing something a bit different this year. So it's a sponsor talk, but rather than talking about us, Numburli, the people, the technology, the company and what we do, we thought about talking instead of we're talking about a nonprofit organization and over the stage to those nonprofit organizations that we work with through our foundation. Our foundation is called Milmercy Impact. And it works with the three speakers that we get. We're gonna have, and you're gonna hear from. Those speakers are connected together by their daily engagement in making use of technology for causes. They go beyond our usual boundaries, meaning that it goes a bit outside of what we used to do with our technical skills. And that's a very interesting topic, I think. I think we think Numburli that he's gonna resonate very well with the diversity of the Python community. It's a really open-minded community that is already always open to be challenged and be open to new point of views and experiences. So, first of all, we're gonna have Margot from Latitude who's gonna talk about the various ways we can use technology for greater good, for the common good, sorry. Second, we're gonna have Briot from Confenix who's gonna share about his experience teaching code to inmates to help them rehabilitate. And we're gonna have a quick return of experience, let's say, by Sebastien from Numburli who actually work with Code of Phoenix. Last, we're gonna talk about decoders. Unfortunately, it is what cannot be with us today, but Alex is gonna jump in and talk about this organization that work to help women, especially from disadvantage neighborhoods to get into tech in the first place and manage to take jobs. All right, so without further ado, let's hand it over to Margot from Latitude. Hi everyone, thanks for having me. I'm Margot, I work at Latitude, which is a four years old NGO that's working in the tech for good sector. At Latitude, we'd rather call this a committed and responsible tech rather than tech for good, but I'll get to that in a second. Just to start on before, I wanted to say a big thank you to Numburli for having us and for offering us the chance to give a talk at the Euro Python to spread the word that tech and social innovation are just two sides of the same coin. So who are we at Latitude? We define ourselves as a community of tech for good enthusiasts. So we are people working in the tech sector and trying to promote a committed and responsible technology. So what do we mean by that? First off, what's a committed technology? I'm just gonna start off with a few examples of what do we mean by that? One example is a NGO that we work with that is M.A.O.S, which is a global charity working to end homelessness. We worked with them on a data science project. And one of the goals was to develop a pricing algorithm recommendation to help the companions that are working at M.A.O.S and that get to collect all the items that have been donated to M.A.O.S. And then after they put that on the e-commerce website and so we worked with them to develop a algorithm of pricing recommendations. A second example of what would be a committed technology is a mobile app this time that we worked on with an association called ARES, which also works on the inclusion sector. They had an issue because they had people that were performing security audits in their companies and they were not able to do it on their own because they did not speak French. They couldn't understand the paperwork and we worked with them to develop a mobile app that would enable them to run the security audits in full autonomy. So that's another example for us of how you can link a social answer, I mean an answer to a social issue and at the same time a technological breakthrough. So with that being said, there's much more examples of what's a committed technology. But for us, for instance, if I just wanna draw a bit on another one, there's technologies that have been developed to prevent wildfire through image recognition. So in each topic and in each area of the social and environmental issues that we are facing right now, technology can actually make a change and help us solve these issues. So that's one side of what I'm talking about. But on the other side, technologies still have a tremendous impact on environment and on society. So it's interesting to develop committed technologies. It's also interesting to think about the responsible coin of technology. We can go on to the next slide, please. Yet what we see today is that 15% of the people in France that are aged 15 or more have not used the internet this year. Another data that is striking is that 80% of adults now spend three hours or more in front of a screen each day outside of their professional activity, which used to be 47% in 2013 when they first conducted the study in 2008, sorry. When they first conducted the story, which is a massive surge. And what we believe it lets do is that we also have to work on this side of technology. And the great news is that us as tech actors, we can actually work on this. So if we go on to the next slide, there's a bunch of organizations trying to create more responsible technologies. And I'm gonna give a few example here as well. One of them is EMEI's Connect, which is an NGO working to help people with digital inclusion. So if we take the example of Yveline, she decided not to use the internet 20 years ago, and now she's been unable to access government services in formal for, for instance, to pay her taxes, to get health insurance, those things haven't taken away from her because she's unable to use the technologies and to use the websites on which those are designed. So this NGO, EMEI's Connect worked with her and they're helping all of these people to acquire the minimum digital skills in order to use them. So that's one example of an organization working on the topic of digital inclusion. Another one that we have right here is Saint-Plon. That organization is working on building a more diverse tech and having more diversity in the conceptors of technology. So they offer free training for people from disadvantaged background to get into the tech industry. And that's exactly what happened to Savouge, who arrived in France in 2014 with a refugee status. And he was trained by Saint-Plon freely to become a web developer and now he's part of the tech community. And then we can go into the next slide again. So what we mean by responsible technology, it's a technology that is able to control the social and environmental externalities of technology. And at least we really try to work at conducting our jobs more ethically. So not only using technology for the common good, but also how do we create those technologies and how do we make them more ethical? And with that being said, you might wonder now, what do we actually do at Detitude? We have three major programs. The first one is that we're running a teaching program in computer science schools and engineering schools. We're enabling students to work on tech project for charities, for social organizations. The second program that we have is a program to help companies create a tech for good culture within their companies and try to apply all of those responsible ways of doing tech in their work and in their everyday jobs. And a few data points to finish on. So far now we've been training about 6,000 students every year with our program. We have more than 3,000 people that joined our community, 20 schools and about 15 tech companies, but we're hoping that we're gonna go a bit more and more and more companies are gonna join the community and the tech for good movement. And the last thing that I wanna finish off with today is that if you guys are interested in that, if you want to understand all of the, we can go on to the next slide. If you want to understand what are today the major tech issues or what are the links between tech and all of the social environmental challenges we're facing today. And if you want to act on those with your technical skills, you can join our community. Right now I'm just very sorry, because it's all in French, but we're gonna get our new website that's gonna come out, I think normally in September. So everything will be available in English. Well, thank you very much. And now I'm gonna head off the stage to Brilleux, who's actually gonna talk about an example of what we call a committed technology. And just fun fact to finish on, we worked on a project with Code Phoenix. So some of our students from our program have worked on a project for Code Phoenix, but I'll let Brilleux explain that to you much better. Thank you, Margot. And thank you also to Numbully for letting me speak during this event. So my name is Brilleux Le Barse. I'm here to talk to you about Code Phoenix, which is an NGO that I co-founded four years ago. And I am a director of this NGO right now. We deal with the professional reintegration of those released from prison. So first of all, since I'm not sure you know about much about the French prison systems, maybe a few words of context, the prison system in France, as in many other countries, does not work exactly the way it's supposed to. Indeed, according to our laws, prison have two purposes. First, to temporarily remove people who are deliderous to others or to society, but also to reintegrate them so that they do not come back to prison. And in France, with more than 60% rest of the vision within five years of release, it's tough to say that it works perfectly. It has become a vicious circle from which it is difficult to break out. That leads to a logical problem which is chronic prison overcrowding. In France, in some prison, you can find three people living in nine square meters. We are often shown as one of the bad students in Europe for that. Around 1,000 people sleep on a mattress laid right on the floor. So it is difficult to, after such a time in prison, in these conditions to reintegrate easily society. And moreover, it takes a lot of aspects to reintegrate fully society. It takes to have a roof, to have strong family ties or to rebuild them, to have access to health care, to have a stable job. And we decided to work on that last aspect for having a stable job when we go out of prison. And for now, we found out four years ago that not a lot is being done yet for this aspect. Indeed, less than 20% of inmates have access to vocational training. And if they have, or if they have access to a job, they don't really have much choice about which training they can choose. It's only for branches with a little added value and not necessarily in high demand on the labor markets. And in the same time, in parallel to that, we can observe, and I'm sure you already all have, that there is a lack of developers on the job market. We just let to change a little bit the power relationship between employers and job seekers. And at Cut Phoenix, it's exactly what we want to do. We want to use that change to help inmates break the vicious circle of recidivism. But since I've said that, how can we make people from inmates to web developers outside? We have built a program that is based on three pillars. The first one is vocational training. The second one is work experience and then support and counsel. So first, we select a group of eight people that will be trained in prison as web integrators during six months. They learn HTML, CSS, JavaScript, or tools like Bootstrap or Git. Once they are trained, we hire them in our web agency still inside the prison for the remaining of their sentence. So they can work on real and concrete missions for clients on real websites that we will be able to show to future recruiters because web development is all about professional experience more than a curriculum. Moreover, it enables us to go further in the training and teach them about, for instance, JavaScript frameworks like Vue.js or React. So in parallel to the training and the time in the web agency, we also prepare them for their job search and we prepare them also to the professional reintegration. So we work on their resume, we do mock interviews, and moreover, we also bring professional developers in prison to meet them, speak with them, have peer programming sessions and so on so that they can demystify a little bit the digital world. Finally, when they are released, we offer to help them find a job if they want to continue in this range. That being said, setting up such a program as you may wonder in prison, in a prison environment is not that easy and we face a lot of constraints and to conclude this presentation, I talk to you about the three main constraints we face every day. The first one and maybe the most important one for us is that we can't have access to internet in prison. It's completely forbidden in France. So we teach the web without the web. The famous Google is your friend does not apply to our learners. That means that they don't have access to code samples, to Stack Overflow, to tutorials, et cetera. So they won't have the same autonomy that every other learner around the world. We did set up an intranet so that the people that participate to the program can have access to the resources we put on it and work together on a project using a GitLab. But it's never enough, it's never like the web so we have to create every time more and more resources and this takes time and we are always looking for help to create a collection of code samples, collection of code animations and so on. The second issue we face a lot is that our learners even trained even after a long time with us still fight against a persistent imposter syndrome because the digital sector for them seems way out of reach and this is why we try to bring as many web professionals inside of prison to talk to them and to desecralize and demystify the digital sector for all learners so that they can think themselves really as web developers and not just as a hobby. Last but not least, the web agency that we have is really crucial and central to our program. It provides new job opportunities in prison. It allows us to offer continuous training to our learners to pay them, to accompany them, to have a link to them for a long time and despite the lack of internet access prevents us from being as fast as our competitors or the fact that our developers are juniors, we managed to already worked on more than 10 websites, the latest one being for the French Ministry of Justice and we are always looking for new clients because our learners are always demanding new projects and are always really happy to find out about new websites and to imagine how they can work on it. So if you need the web agency and you want to help us participate to the professional integrations of inmates, don't hesitate to give us a call and to visit our website. And so now that I said everything, I hand over to Sebastian who has come with us in prison as a volunteer and I think he'll give you a little bit of feedback. Yes, thank you so much, Brio. First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity and for everything that you're doing. So I'm going to briefly introduce myself and then give you some feedback about my experience in Code Phoenix. So I'm Sebastian, I'm a French data engineer at Numberly. I work full remote from Taiwan, so good evening. And I was a speaker once for Code Phoenix as a CSS instructor. So it's very intimidating to think that you're going to go to prison and you're going to teach inmates to do CSS. But I have to say the reality was completely different from anything I could have expected. Sure, you're going to prison, it's a big building, there's lots of gates, but once you get in there and you meet the inmates, it's just a group of eight really, really, really sweet middle-aged men. They're so happy that you're there. I came in, they gave me tea. They were really, really, really sweet. I guess they must be super grateful that people take from their time to go all the way out into the suburbs, into the prison and take their time to teach them. But for me, it was just a very positive experience and it always feels really great to be able to give back, especially to people who might have made a mistake and just want to get a chance to redeem themselves through tech. It was my privilege to be able to do that. So thank you very much, Breyer, and thank you, numberly, for giving me this chance because not every company, I suppose, lets you take part of your work time and go do something like this. But so overall, yeah, a really positive experience. If you want to talk to me or ask me more questions about it, you can find me on the wonder me in the little numberly box. Yeah, that's it for me. I'll be giving the mic back to Alexi. Thank you very much, Sébastien. And hi, everyone. So I'm gonna jump in at the place of SWAD who couldn't make it, unfortunately, for personal reasons. So I'm gonna try my best to present you Decodeuse, which is the name of our nonprofit organization. So Decodeuse's mission is to help women from disadvantage, sorry, neighborhoods get to start in the tech industry. And they do this by coaching them and teaching them how to code. So if we go on the next slide, yeah. So what they're doing is to work on creating a positive impact and to shed a light on some of the people, especially women, let's say even worse from these advantages neighborhoods into the tech industry. They have some numbers that are not so nice to see to be honest, when you are as privileged as we can be in 10 years, only two points increase in the women in the science in IT globally. It's not very much. So I think any kind of engagement like Decodeuse can do make a difference actually. The unemployment as well is twice as high for this population that it is for the rest of the territory. So the ground and the trend is definitely needs more help and more energy into it. So how do they do this on the next slide? They won't just like Brille said, we have a lack of developers, of people capable of doing tech. So that means also that on the bright side, there are opportunities actually. But there are still those women who are hard to reach and when you see that yeah, only 30% of women in the tech industry, it's not that much. If you then add that 8% are living in the priority areas are actually trained in technology. It's a lot of things that we can improve and it's also a lot of opportunities. So for this Decodeuse has put up three programs that we can see on the next slide. So the first one is called Tech Dalid. I like this put of words. It's a one week action. So it's a short thing to just prove I guess to some of the women over there that it can be done. So, hey, like an eye opener, right? In one week, I'm gonna show you what it is, what you can do and how you can engage into a longer training and break the ice so that you can go on. The second one then is Tech Dappower, which is a real professional training program. It's the one year course. So this one is more intensive. It has tech professionals participating, internships, interviews, trainings, boot camps, tests, et cetera, et cetera. Everything you need to actually become a professional developer. And then there's also how you accompany the people that you've worked for and work with, sorry. And it's the Tech Dappower for the guiding side. So it's empowerment, working on how you can increase and improve your professional confidence or the imposter syndrome, like you said as well, which is always pretty high when you were not, trained or socially prepared for this kind of job. It's something that you have to put energy in to get through. And it's great because I know that we have at Novalier, we have been privileged to host one of those sessions. So we just landed some space and the coders came and with all the participants to spend some time at Novalier and they could have a session with everything they needed. So that's also another way we support this kind of organization. And the feedback is pretty great. So we are very glad that it's going on good. I think the last slide has some nice numbers because when you put all this energy, you are always happy to have some real and concrete results and we can fairly say that the coders have some nice numbers. So about job offerings and their capacity at acquiring and feeling that they have technical skills, obviously the boost of income in our field that is better, I guess, that the typical jobs that they could turn to. And their average salary is pretty good for a junior. So thank you and congratulations to SWAD and all the people working at the coders. They are making a difference daily. Latitude evidently as well, Brio and Code Phoenix as well. All those organizations are making tremendous work and having an impact is outside of the usual tech for tech. And I think, and I encourage also a lot of other companies to join this and to support all these actions every day. And I'm handing over the mic to Roma. Thank you. Thanks everyone. I just wanna end up with two side notes and they are still very important before we go into the Q&As. As Alexie talked about with SWAD slides, there's an emphasis that needs to be made and some effort needs to be made also on the gender equity in tech in general. And in that, around that subject, we had the recently webinar at Numburli with Naomi, if you remember Naomi, I think she, last year during last year's edition of the Euro-Python, she had a talk about gender equity and we had the chance to have her again at Numburli with Orelige and François-Henry Pinot during a webinar last March. Regarding this very on-topic. So there's a lot to be done and there are some great information there in that webinar. So if you got a time and you want to, you can have a look. The last thing before going to the Q&A is we would like to take this opportunity just a sec to thank the Euro-Python organizer and all the volunteers that are doing an awesome job and they've been very accommodating to us with this session that is a bit different at the others, especially with all the speakers and everything. So thanks again to everyone at Euro-Python. The conference this year is awesome as always. So thank you, thank you everyone involved. I guess we can move on to the Q&A now. Okay, Romain, thank you very much. Yes, this is a bit challenging. It's the first time I'm doing this VJ thing, so please bear with me. A bit. I'm going to try to put you all up on the screen now. Try that like this. And then we do have two questions here. So actually I think they're both for Brio. So the first one is, did you get much enthusiasm from employers? Imagine some employers might be prejudiced against ex-offenders. Well, we're still a very young organization. We've been training people only for two years in prisons yet. So we don't have much numbers to prove that the training and an experience in web development is enough to counterbalance the weight of an offense that you committed at any point in your life. That's a bet we are making with our learners for now. We're still waiting for the first people to come out of prison and wanting to go back, to go to the digital branch to prove that it works. Okay, thank you. So there's a second question. I'm going to put that on right away as well. So this is also related to the prisoners. And conversely, how do you avoid employers who want to exploit these people? So I think this is about working in prison that can be associated with exploitation. So our customers and the employers don't employ our learners in prison. We employ the people we work with in prison. So we fix the rule and we're trying to be above the standard in prison for now. And outside of the prison, it's not supposed to happen because they are protected by the work rights in France, so which is not the case in prison. But in prison, we are the sole employer of our learners. Okay, thank you. So let's have another question this time to Code Phoenix. Do you also teach technology in women prisons? There's women prisons, okay. Pacific prisons for women, yeah. Not yet because it's not easy to find women in prison. It are really not a lot of them in prison, fortunately for them. In the only 3% of the general inmates population are women in France. And I guess it's about the same rates in other countries which asked the question why. And we will never know exactly mostly and really surely it's about education. But so in France, there are only two prisons that are only for women. So it's not that easy to find them near where I live. But it's something we want to do in the future. Okay, great. So, well, I have yet another question for you, sorry about that. Do you know if any government started similar programs for prisoners? So I know that before us, the first one that took action and developed the program for inmates to learn web development is the United States. They started their program in 2013, I believe. I'm not sure if they also have a web agency but the program is called The Last Mile, if you wanna check. And they are starting to have a really good result and really good and really encouraging results. Of course, it's not the same environment, work environment as in France, but it gives us courage to continue. And in Europe, we were the second ones after England, which started a program in 2016 that's called Code 4000. Okay, interesting. We had a keynote last year at EuroPython by Jessica McKellar and she was heading the Python and Prison Program there and basically helped to talk about how open source can change a criminal justice system. Another question. So Desgoudes looks amazing. Is there anything similar in English? In, well, UK English. I guess UK English is fine as well. To be honest, I don't know. We'll relay, if you want to get the answer, please relay it in the channel so we can pick it up and we'll make sure to forward it to some people that Desgoudes will know more about their similar environments. I don't know, I'm sorry. Okay, excellent. And final question. Actually, there's one of the... Oops, sorry, I don't know if you can hear me. Yeah, there's an organization called TechFugees. So they run in France, but not only, they also run in England, in Italy, in Greece. And they have a really similar program to Desgoudes. I mean, it's way smaller, but they just started a program. So they're teaching refugee women how to learn, how to code and get into the tech sector. And they're also helping on the employment section. So really similar to Desgoudes. There's probably way more, so it's still really good to ask a question. What did you say they were called? It's called TechFugees. TechFugees, yeah. Actually, I think it would be good after the talk if you'd go to the breakout room knee and then perhaps answer some additional questions people might have after this last question. Maybe you can also share some extra resources with them. So the last question is, are you selective about which inmates women get the opportunity to learn, or do you try to say as inclusive as possible? So for Code Phoenix, to select the people who are going to participate to the program, we make sure they know how to use a computer. That's the minimum we ask, because that's not the case for everyone in prison. There's really a lot of people that's never used a computer or very few. I thought people had to do uppercase at one point, so we want them to know how to use a basic computer, and afterwards we have a 20-minute talk with them to understand their motivation, and that's the key to the selection. Okay, thank you. Anyone for Deku Deuze? I don't know. I guess that's something similar, but I don't know. Okay, great. So thank you very much for the session. I think that was a very nice overview of the different NGOs that you're working with, and thanks to all the NGO representatives coming here and sharing their thoughts and insights. Thanks to Nambeli for making this possible and sponsoring us. Right, if there are any more questions, then please go to the breakout room three, the knee room, and then you can reach out to Nambeli and all the NGOs there as well. Okay, we're gonna have a coffee break now. See you in a bit. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.